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Sony 24mm G Master VS G: does the f/2.8 ultra compact hold up?
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Sony 24mm f/1.4 GM vs 24mm f/2.8 G - What's the difference? I was asked this week so I investigated. The results are pretty impressive. Sony have released the best ultra-compact prime lenses for E-mount, except for 1 issue. Is it a deal breaker? You decide!
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Ted Forbes
The Art of Photography
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Can't wait for Sony to drop a new compact G 85mm to complete the set!!
I've pre-ordered the 24mm and the 40mm - half the price and half the size vs the GM, and more than enough for most people. I'd like to see them do something similar in an 85 and 105. As you mention here, I wouldn't use them for landscape, architecture, or wildlife as there are better options, but they are almost ideal for the use cases you mentioned - street, travel, and carrying around. They'll be great companions for my A7c, which seems to be where Sony is aiming them.
These ultra compacts are the way to go. A real game changer, specially when using a small body like the A7C.
I never doubted how good the 2.8 24mm was but for someone who does astro often, the 1.4 was the best option for me. I absolutely love the 24mm GM, such a good lens.
I think lens comparisons are tremendously resourceful with reviews. Yes you can review lens quality by its own merits, but by giving context on what else is out there you can show if that lens's qualities warrant a purchase over another one, especially when there is a price discrepancy. Also really enjoyed your fuji 16mm 1.4 vs 2.8 video and your other video on the fuji 16mm 1.4 and Sony 24mm 1.4!
That example in the beginning to see the effect of field curvature is an awesome tip! Thank you.
I've actually been going back and forth between the 24mm f/2.8 G and the 20mm f/1.8 G. The 20mm G has a wider max aperture with 9 aperture blades. But it's still within reach compared to the 24mm GM. I like the size and weight of the 24mm f/2.8 G though. The 20mm G seems to land between the 24 G and GM for weight, max aperture and price while being in a similar ballpark for FOV.
What did you get in the end? I am having same thoughts and cannot decide.
I have both.
@@sandeepraiphotography2111 And 2 years later I have the same doubt! Which one did you choose?
@@RNWLL I actually went off-field and picked up 11mm f1.8 which actually is a tiny APSC lens. Gives me 15.5mm when you consider the crop. I think the quality is fine even when cropped as I don’t really do high end work but mostly CZcams and events.
I have the 50 G and it is excellent. I am strongly considering this 24, because it makes so much sense for travel.
24mm and 50mm Gs with the A7C is the ultimate small set up!
I’m happy to know about the distortion of this lens - I was looking at it mostly for interior design and architecture photography. I may have to look towards the GM or other lenses.
While I couldn't afford the G Master now anyway, I think I like the 2.8 better for my application anyway! Thanks Ted!
OMG this is one of the best review i've seen. I learn so much. You should definitely review the Sony 50mm 2.5 G
I have the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, but I also want a more compact 24mm for hiking, the resolution of the lens needs to be optimized for at least my Sony A7RIV, but I do not like the new Sony 24mm 2,8 G lens, shure it is compact, it have aperture ring, AF/MF button, but too much distortion and vignetting, I do not want a lens that are dependant of software, make it good as an analog performer Sony ! Now I will hope that Voigtlander makes a 24mm APO-Lanthar, until then I have my trusted 24mm GM.
It's been 2 years since I got my hands on the Sony 24mm f/2.8 G Lens and with my limited budget at that time, I could only afford the G over the G Master - it still wasn't a huge deal breaker. For videos, its been amazing. For photos, it still is pretty nice and I do agree with the flaws as I have experienced it too - but it's definitely one lens I enjoyed using. Took a while for me to get the hang of a lens thats wide haha - but after some trials and errors, I definitely got some nice shots for clients that made them super impressed with it.
Thank you! Would you recommend the 24mm f/2.8 G for talking head/studio style CZcams videos?
Damn, I can buy all three for less than one 50mm f1.2. I already have the 24, 35 & 50 GM, but these look so light and small, perfect for travel and hiking, so wishlist for Black Friday then.
Thanks Ted! I’m pretty excited for this series of lenses. I can’t wait to scoop some up.
I already have the G Master but I got the 40 now and it really makes me want to get an A7C. These lenses are the perfect size.
I think the 40 is the sweet spot, the 24 has too much barrel distortion for me
I actually sold my 1.4 GM recently. I then ordered the 24G. For video on a low MP unit like the FX3 it will be just fine. The loss of a stop is made up for by the phenomenal low light capabilities of that body.
*2 stops
Mistake for sure
@@njrtechNah
I have tuned out most of the gear review content, but this was really well done and valuable! I preordered the G version for my a7c and a focus on video, so it looks like I made a good choice (assuming the profile comes in soon)
Will you still be doing a comparison between the Sony 50mm f/1.2 and the Nikon 50mm f/1.2?
Wondering how the 20mm 1.8 v 2.8 compare?
Great review! And whoa, I didn't know you're in Texas!
Shooting Canon, I have the Tarmon 24-70 and 70-200mm f2.8s. I picked up a really nice deal on a Sony A7R II with a Sigma 55mm f1.4 ART lens. A really nice deal. (I also have Sony APS-C bodies w/primes) I can run the Tamrons on all the Sonys just fine with the Sigma MC-11 adapter. So I have wide-angle covered at 2.8, but I'd kind of like to go smaller and lighter for that on the A7RII. The 24mm G sounds like it might give great results on the A7RII and be relatively portable. Then I can sell some other stuff and get a good long telephoto to take things past the 200mm.
I’m surprised the G held up this good. For a f2.8 it’s very nice. The G compacts are all about dumbing the weight and bulk of the old bloated first generation FF mirrorless lenses.
Clear and concise. Thanks for sharing your findings!
Well done! That was a fascinating dive into these two lenses--and lenses in general--that was a really enjoyable and educational watch. Thanks!
For me, purple fringing is the main factor in picking a lens, because it is impossible to remove it in videos. About distortion. You should have seen distortion from Sony G 20mm 1.8 lens. Even the profile cannot correct it properly.
Very good video but I am looking for the filter in photophop to be able to see focus zone. Can you give me more detail ? Thanks
Thanks for this. I was considering getting a new 24 for my Sony A7ii and think I'll wait until the 2.8 is available. How do you think this one is when compared to the Sigma 24, 1.4 lens.
Which lens has the best cross frame sharpness from f/8 and smaller for landscape togs?
Bigger isn’t always better, especially when walking around a lot.
There is a setting on my camera FX3 for lens correction. Hopefully that corrects the image shape. I guess I need to do some scientific tests like you?
Weird question but I wonder how the G would stack up against the Sigma 16mm cropped in
How do you compare Sony 24mm/f2.8 to Tamron 24mm/f2.8 not considering the price?
It reminds me 28mm f2 in a better, more petite body. I found distortion as a highly problematic aspect. There is something different in a rectangular projection of the 3D space than warping a 2D image. Personally, I'm more into 40mm option.
Thanks for the video! Exactly all of what I was looking to know about the new 24mm f2.8 G lens (before I preorder it!).
Should also compare 24G to Tamron or Samyang version.
i love these small lenses. what i missing something similae small in the 75…100mm range.❤
Just ordered the 24 mm 1.4 GM. :) Thank you for this video
Oh very helpful thank you because I am looking to get a new camera for product reviews and what’s pissing me off about the iPhone 13 is that I have to be holding the object in the exact perfect spot. So if I run into the same issue with this, I’m not going to be happy. So this was good to know. I almost wonder if I would be better off just getting the Sony ZVE 10 with the 16 mm sigma.
Could I show the same "find edges" focus effect in Capture One Pro too? TY
thanks for the comparison!
The comparison I wanted! Thanks!
Glad I could help!
Can you make a video comparing the 24mm 2.8 G to the new Samyang 24mm 1.8 compact lens😄
What did you get
@@switchunboxing your video was great, but I finally bought a wide angle lens and happy with it. I got the Zeiss Batis 25mm (I bought it used from B&H at a cheaper price 😁). It’s very sharp and excellent color contrast, and autofocus is silent 😁
@@jbello9398 Not my video I am a viewer! But ok Zeiss yes I was curious about that one as well. I’m thinking maybe Sigma for me
Fantastic review! I am starting a CZcams channel and am planning to buy an A7C and a 24mm lens. You mentioned that one big issue with this lens is the distortion. You said that when taking video the camera internally corrects the distortion. How does this happen? Will I need to do any post adjustment to the video or is everything automatic inside the camera? Your input would be greatly appreciated!
unless you shoot stills in raw it is auto-corrected.
Great review.Thanks!!!
Would be interested to see the comparison of the 24g vs the tamron 17-28
And the G master 40mm vs Zeiss Batis 40mm f2 ?
I'm thinking about it ... would you sell the Sony GM 24-70 2.8 to get this SONY GM 24 MM 1.4?
It's sometimes funny to note that when mirrorless cameras with short flange distance was introduced, there was a huge expectation and explanation how the short flange distance would enable design lenses that are smaller and faster and optically better. What we now see, across manufacturers are huge lenses with several glass elements (we justify that more elements makes better image) and often moderate to slightly better image. People of particular region in the world always count and conclude the more numerical number is better.
Such people are not photographers but promoters. Sad.
thank you very much
Great job reviewing these two lenses. One question to ask: How often do you shoot wide angle photography? For me the answer is sometimes, but not often. After watching this I ordered the Sony 2.8 lens for my A7R3.
This series needs a Sony 135mm f4 G lens. Think of street photographers like Saul Leiter, Fred Herzog...
Good One Sir
Your reviews and the way you talk is really soothing
Great comparison. Loved Gmaster. Haha 😂
Not wide enough for me. My wish would be for a fast 14mm prime for night sky shooting.
All about 13mm for me
Another class, other applications, different results. They can't be compared, or maybe yes... the same focal length.
Great Video! Nice comparison im locking for. greetings from Leipzig/Germany
Basically, it's tools for the job. You won't use a budget lens and expect the same results as an ultra top end lens
I just pre order this yesterday. I can't wait to sexually see it myself! 13:11
Haha. What a totally great catch there.
Отличный обзор, спасибо.
I bought the 40mm (over the 34mm 1.4) - I simply couldn't get comfortable with such a big lens and heavy lens and felt the 40mm would be more practical and most likely for me to use as intended, ie for street photography. I feel the 40 is the 'standard' for me, as the 35 is veering more towards a wide angle lens. Still a great lens for sure, just too expensive/heavy/not what I need right now.
I have the Sony GM 50 1.2 and the 24 GM 1.4 I just got the Sony 40 2.5 it is far better in the hand far nicer to walk around with I will use the GM lenses for special places and Landscape also far easier with the 40mm on when I have the camera on my lap and I'm learning from CZcams and going through the PDF manual.
I now the pandemic has affected us all but there's an awful lot of kit appearing these days. Can we get the Art of Photography back please; I still watch your earlier videos and I even bought the Tee.
Nice & Thanks :)
Starting to shoot “stopped down” more now anyway
Great review. I’m happy with the compromise of digital correction to keep size small, but I wonder why Sony doesn’t include the lens profile baked into the lens firmware🤔
The Sony 28mm f2 is another Sony lens that has significant distortion but is generally good in other regards.
Hopefully at some point it gets upgraded.
If you can afford it,get f1.4.....I love mine.😃
LOCA will find you 🙏
I'm a little off topic here, but I was asking you on behalf of the whole community of your Italian followers if you could speak a little slower so we understand you better. Thanks.
YT allows you to slow the audio down to your taste! You're welcome!
@@krishnastock ... even if I watch on TV?
I watch almost exclusively on TV.
Anyway thanks
I find it kind of terrible that you prepare this type of content-which surely takes many hours as is very neat and well presented-where you present the "technical" qualities of a piece of gear and then, at the end, emphasize the reality that we all know; "technical specs" aren't that important nor define a good photographer. I was so engaged to this channel and so thrilled to see new video updates when you talked about the actual *art* of photography (book pickups, the artist series, photo assignments, all that stuff). Now this feels just like the next gear review channel... :(
@@cameraprepper7938 so what? Aren't there thousands of youtubers doing exactly the same? What's the point in just following the trend? I felt this channel lost part of it's identity and is no longer as interesting to me. That is not to say that Ted's work isn't good, all videos are neat and well presented and I do value all the effort he puts in them. Although, honestly, I also have the impression that this type of content is much easier to produce. I just find it horribly boring to watch the same gear reviews everywhere... Especially here, a channel that got me hooked for sooo many other high quality videos that had nothing to do with gear.
The 28 f2 is also terrible.
Screen on title, looks like termal grenade from Star Wars).
It's a sad day when people obsess over optical perfection and they never strive to create great art. Target charts is the hell for the talentless.
They are import to look at the technical aspects.
Oh stop virtue signalling. You can obsess over optical perfection AND strive to create great art. Only Tinkerbell has room in her head for just one thought.
I like to know the tools I’m working with.
? It’s not an obsession.All good pictures and video/cinema stars with great glass. Hope you never need glasses.Optics are a valuable tool.
Dude a reviewer is taking his time to run tests to show marked technical differences between two lenses that DOES influence the rendering of an image, and helping us make a better buying decision.
True, any lens can be used to create art but it’s a review for a consumer product. You might as well be watching videos of people making great pictures with smartphone cameras then cause there’s some good stuff there too
People also use lenses for technical/architectural photography and this deep understanding of the distortion that comes from each lens is very helpful for them.
Samyang is very good and costs much less.
Fantastic if Sony could sell them as a set.
A bit pretentious
The 24mm 2.8 is trash
After one day I retruned it back
Why ?
@@hellolau when you film you get grainy video it doesn’t look good
I have a7iii & a7siii
@@DavidVideoFILMS that doesn’t make it trash…it makes you a bit foolish for buying a lens with 2-stops less light as you could’ve simply shot at f/2.8 with one of you existing lenses before buying.
Thanks Ted for the analysis of the new Sony 24mm f2.8 G lens offerings on the cards and you made every aspect of buying it very clear to every one, form serious to casual photographers in mind, but there are photographers who are serious but cannot afford to buy G Master lenses and the likes made by other companies have everything to do with the cheaper versions but capable lenses have to offer to them and make use of them to the fullest!, whether post production or before!! Having said that , I do have a question which intruges me for long that why expensive lenses are expensive only because, is it only because the cost of production or the technology that made the equipment more expensive, I'm saying "more" not because of the bulk of material, better material, I mean, but because of astrnomically higher price point of of the expensive lenses!! The corrected versions of the expensive lenses remain expensive at any point of time you proceeded to buy them but once the technology is scattered to companies,. even to the little known ones, the prices do never plummet for those lenses, why?!!