Sony Compact Trio of Lenses - Nearly Perfect (24mm f/2.8G, 40mm f/2.5G, 50mm f/2.5G)
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This changes everything for me. My main complaint about the whole sony system up till now has been the lack of a 40mm lenses besides the zeiss (which has meh focus). 40 is the greatest of all focal lengths in my opinion and I have bought several entire cameras just because of their 40s. This is truly a great day in sony land
You're right I think, such a versatile length for a fixed lens because you get a little more zoom and bokeh from the five extra millimeters over a 35m but it's not useful only as a "family lens" like the 50mms often are.
This is exactly the kind of size I want from everyday carry lenses. Not super tiny pancake so they can still fit a good focus ring and controls as well as a real focussing motor that doesn't hunt or stop around constantly.
Also 40mm is seriously great and a really underserved focal length - I always find 50 just took tight for my natural framing tendencies, and 35 gets a little distorted when taking some shots. 40 is just my favourite, so one that performs well optically and mechanically, and fits in your pocket is just perfect.
Shame I'm not a Sony user though. Oh well, maybe one day..
*watching the whole video*
:)
*hears the price*
:(
Expensive? These are 90% of the GM lenses for 1/3rd the price! They are actually a steal. You don't mention things like these have great weather sealing with 10 gaskets thru them or the fact they have dual linear motors for lighting quick and accurate AF. You wont find either of those things on budget lenses.
I never thought of it like that. The image quality and build quality on them is great, the only "knock" on them is the slightly slower aperture.
You are absolutely right!
You won’t find the size or weight either, which is where a lot of the demand is headed,
Those prices are crackpipe. LOL
I don’t even own a camera but still spilled my coffee at that price 😂
you slap that G on any sony lens and you know it aint gon be budget glass
Clearly you haven't seen what the really high end stuff costs.... hint they are 3 to 4 times as much.
@Brandon Hinsley I used to watch camera stuff all the time despite only using my phone (cameras are expensive lol). It's good to learn about what's out there when you want something, that way when you finally have the means to buy it, you can. I also watched this guy in particular because his videos are generally interesting and funny on top of being information driven.
What ND filter did you use with shots outside? Do you have a preference of one brand ND filter to another? I bought some $20 cheap filters which seem to be doing alright, but I can't help feeling like more expensive filters are better.
I really liked the review about the lenses, I would like to see more in the future. Thanks!
Kai is the 24 a good lens for someone new to Sony with ZV E1 and wanting a good travel video camera? What would you recommend?
Considering your knack for dropping kit, was it wise holding all three in the same hand?
Will you do a review of the Sigma I series? They are also compact primes for the Sony.
Hey Kai, Can you please do a test on best mid-range lens for Canon C70 and Red Komodo
Could you do a comparison between the Zeiss 35 2.8 and the new 40 ?
About time they started engraving the serial numbers
I watch for the off the cuff humor. Like a flying carpet through space. LOL
Playback @ 0.25x really turned my day around. LOL. I slowed it down to check out Kai's cool watch. And THEN hahahaha. Thanks for your reviews Kai. I love you man.
Sick Preme jacket, Kai!!
Regarding prices: a quick preview to a World without any competition for Sony.
What about the Sigma 35mm f2 C? (Against the 40mm mostly)
What’s your main camera at the moment kai?
Hey Kai, love your videos.
that is all
24 perhaps going to be the most popular, as it is the only focal length not covered by the A7C kit lens
That 24 with distortion correction off is quite scary
These do remind me of the leica 15mm f1.7 for the panasonic! The more of Kai I watch, the more I feel like I should be switching to sony!
Kai, I want to buy you a beer just for that flat earther comment. Made my day.
We use the 24mm on the A7c for our vlogs. Works great!
Just use the 24-70 GM?
Did you pay resell for the Supreme jacket?
I like new small 24-60mm. Very good quality!!!
Hi Kai what a blast from the past remeber the digital rev days , i used to love the pro tog cheap camera vids, they were hillarious, You and lok made that show you guys were entertaining and informative and good toggers......nah ya shit....lol those were the days
why don't they make compact primes for 85mm, 135mm? Sony or canon? also why most compact lenses stop around 2.8 why don't they goto 1.8?
Could be tempted to switch away from my X-T4 for an A7C/III with one or more of these lenses to gain full-frame and better face/eye autofocus. But at the current prices the value proposition just isn’t there yet for me. Love the form factor of these lenses though. Looks very practical.
If the A7III/C were, say, $1499 and the lenses $399 each...yeah.
That jumpsuit is sick tho.
for that price you can find a very good used 55mm f1.8 zeis..
Glad you made that comparison. It's one of my favorite lenses in the whole system
@@BoyarsMedia i heard about color fringing of that 55 mm..
@@rock3times That's more common on all modern lenses. It's super easy to fix in post and I don't think this lens has CA that's any worse than others.
@@BoyarsMedia sorry I don't know how and will not do the post.. to me, like cosmetic surgery to hide a defect. i am a purist and idealist..
New designs come out like the I series from Sigma.I am particularly attracted to the 35 mm and 65mm F2 DG DN C..have rave reviews from Chris Frost. I trust that man.
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@@BoyarsMedia just get a Voigtlander 50/2 APO lens, compare and stop telling bs :)
Oye oye! Great review! Thanks Kai
Kai has a gorgeous watch.
Nowadays if I want a light and convenient setup I bring my smartphone.
How does the 40mm f2.5 compare to the Canon EF 40mm f2.8 STM? It's an important comparison as, with adapter (which many Sony alpha shooters have on hand anyway), it's about the same size, almost the same aperture, and also has fantastic optical performance. The $600 price of the Sony seems pretty expensive when you can get the Canon plus MC-11 adapter for a couple of hundred bucks less....
OK, so just realized that Kai does, obliquely and without naming names, bring up this point in the final minute of the video. Appreciate that! Please do a comparo video!
Hey Kay, are now a ambassador for Canon redline challenge?
Thanks for the constantly clear reviews of gear! I honestly say I have been binging these videos hahaha. Do you imagine any issues with the original A7 camera? (I'm a broke newbie) I'm thinking of supplimenting
my abused OG FE 50mm 1.8 with a 24 or 40mm (for Documentary work).
classic a7 is a decent camera. i think just get the zeiss 35mm f2.8 used.
@@thickrebel6493 appreciate it
@@thickrebel6493 the 35z is very very good! It's only weakness is heavy vignetting but otherwise it's the perfect travel lens
The lack of compact primes with aperture rings one of the reasons I went for Fuji years ago. These seem good for street photography. Wouldn’t ever switch to Sony at this point because I like the dual OVF of the x-pro3.
My only regret of getting a Sony A7C is the price of everything to get for it. Shoosh!
So Sigma I series lenses looks a little more interesting or not?
Nothing beats having a smooth ring....
No! actually I was thinking. Sweet, another video from Kai..
You say that Wide Open they're very sharp without the need to stop down...
I say that they come pre-stopped down wide open
While small, these are not simple lenses... they have all the optical, AF and usability tech of larger G lenses...
Exactly. Clueless photographers and reviewers will just look at the size and "slow" apertures and cry about the price. These are 90% of the GM lenses for 1/3rd the price and also way smaller and lighter. These are a steal for their price.
Interesting, but pretty expensive compared to competitors with similar specs, or even to Sony's own faster 50mm offerings.
Might consider the 24 bc there aren't a lot of other options, but the 40 and 50 just don't make sense.
Sony missed the chance to release these on Pancake Day 🥞 (I didn’t know this was a thing until DRTV lol)
It’s not even a pancake lens ..
The only great thing about these lenses is the de-clickable aperture ring which previously only a feature of GM lenses. From what I discovered from samples online, I think it is a bit darker... maybe a T3.5? Seems great for videos. And, the background looks a bit busy though. $599, fair price. I paid my 35ZA in 2015 for $699.
Hyped to put these on my mark i 7d
Good luck with that :D
Nice lenses, not so nice prices, shall keep using my manual pentax/takumar lenses.
Prices like those are one of the reasons I'm still on Nikon F.
Sure, the Sonys might be very good, but they better are for those amounts of money.
You want cheap plastic fantastic? Get the Samyang "tiny but mighty" lenses. You want 90% of GM but 1/3rd of the cost high quality lenses, get these. You have choices. These are a steal for the price.
Sony: small lenses.
Pentax: hold my beer.
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That 24 should've been a 16mm
40mm is one of my favorites. I got some of my favorite photos with the 40mm Leica Summicron C and film CL camera. I wish every manufacturer would make a 40mm lens or two.
I'm looking to adapt (probably an M mount) 40mm. Would you recommend this Summicron over the Voigtlander which is a few hundred cheaper?
@@NickCheng93 You will probably be happy with either decision. The Voigtlander will probably be slightly sharper with more gentle bokeh to be honest
@@Bryan-lu4du thanks! I love the 40mm focal length, so I'm trying to find a compact way to get a fast prime
I think that Sony is trying to steal some market share from Fuji, between these lenses and the recent A7c.
Also, I'm not sure that lenses being made in China is all that relevant to quality anymore. Consider how the optically impressive 16-55mm 2.8 G is also from China.
24mm F1.4 GM is made in Thailand... if Thailand makes Kai feel better quality...
I wonder if the gear like teeth are designed to be used for filming.
Sony Fe 35mm f1,8 is the best option i think.
I believe the 40mm f/2.5G is the perfect full-frame equivalent of Panasonic's 20mm f/1.7, which I've been a huge fan of. It might be a bit tight for all-around usage, but the compactness and lightness more than make up for it.
Think I’ll put the money towards the 50mm f1.2......😍
lol those prices hahahahaha
I am eyeing the 24mm for my 7C.
Can you soeka chinese ?,
At that price I might as well get the Samyang 24 mm F2.8 for a third of the price...
And less or none chromatic aberations or distortion...
Yea, and get terrible AF and a cheap plastic build that feels like a toy. Had that, sold it. Also had the 35 (2.8), 45 and 75 1.8 and the 35, 50 and 85 f/1.4 All are garbage. Terrible focussing issues (especially on the 1.4s) and the 1.8 lenses are built like junk. No thanks.
that was EXACTLY what i was thinking
The shapes of them are quite like those Panasonic M4/3 lenses.
These lenses resemble Sigma's DN series. I wonder if Sigma manufactures these for Sony?
Has Sigma just done the same trio of lenses for Nikon, Canon, Sony and Panasonic
Considering size, price and aperure, don't tell me they cannot do something like the Canon RF 50/1.8
Sony has a $200 50mm f/1.8. it's okay. Needs to be updated though.
Need a compact ultrawide!!! There's still no compact Sony vlogging lens for the A7C
Does such a thing exist in any system?
@@BoyarsMedia Fujifilm
@@BoyarsMedia RF 16mm F/2.8
40mm and extension tube! Come to papa!
50mm is interesting ... But it's cheaper sibling is even more interesting. ;)
What Sony really needed was an affordable, updated 50mm f1.8. Not this.
Agreed. The 50mm was the first non-kit lens I bought for my a7iii and I loved it until I bought the 85mm and realized how good the 50mm could’ve been.
Completely agree. That 50 1.8 is a shocker. Can’t believe they haven’t updated it when it’s such a staple focal length.
Yeahh, The three new lenses arent very cheap too. The nifty fifty or even the 28 f2(f2!!!) are cheaper.
Which one? The plastic one or the Zeiss
@@BoyarsMedia the plastic one
okay i guess 40 mm is made for sony a7r II and III just because of 4k crops on both camera and you take equal 50mm
Kai, you are right. They are over priced. But not too much choice for Sony at this time. For Nikon, their 28 and 40 compact is not launched yet
they should add an 18mm same size...
His accent is epic. Lol
Remember back in the days when a nifty fifty was small, affordable AND f/1.8? Technology sure has gone backwards....f/2.5 is slow as shit for a prime lens. I can't imagine who would want to buy these.
Hearing these prices made me once again confident in Fuji and my choice in going with them
I switched from Sony to Fuji as well. Everything is so much better, nicer to handle and most importantly: affordable!
Was tired with Sony's pricing and sold everything. My XT2 is the best camera i owned in the last 15y and i don't see the need to upgrade in the next years at all.
@@topperharley7142 got the x-t20 myself (and wayy too many lenses), and absolutely love it. I especially like the look. You know, I could probably just make do with using my phone camera, but it just feels so much nicer to look through a viewfinder
just don't buy Sony. Fortunately Sigma and Tamron make brilliant lenses and love to produce them for the Sony bodies at a fraction of the cost.
Sony's price is reflecting the full frame market's price, Canon, Nikon, Panasonic new lenses will priced quite similiar and Leica will be above them. If you can't stomatch FF or even Medium format ecosystem's price just go pick smaller format. Fuji's lenses for aps-c lass is quite expensive really... i am a Fuji shooter as well altho i got my 23mm f/2 cheaply because of discount. My fuji 16mm f1.4's price is skyhigh almost FF teritory.
The price isn't the issue, it's the market placement. $600 is cheap for good glass. But these aren't that great. They're f/2.8. had these been half the price, I'd consider buying the 24. This is why my first choice of glass is Sigma. In any case, Sony is middle of the road when it comes to cost.
My jacket! 😫😫
I like the idea of compact, good IQ, decent aperture, and cheap lens for FF. But these were not the ones. It is funny how the prices for mirrorless bodys are much higher than ”back in the day” these kind of lenses for DSLR. Bokeh was pretty ugly on these lenses also. I guess theres some G-money extra on the price and cos these are for FF. I remember Sigma made like 19mm, 30mm 2.8 for APS-C and MFT and their image quality looked alot like these and price was 100euros new with a plastic coating made in china. Thanks for the review Kai!
This series needs a Sony 135mm f4 G lens. Think of street photographers like Saul Leiter, Fred Herzog...
“all lenses pull smoothly and nicely” meanwhile on the 40mm he’s totally out of focus lol
really glad sony issued these small fixed lens, will be great with 85mm too. Price is the only concern...let's wait for 2 years so they will drop significantly XDD
These or the Zeiss 35mm 2.8?
i got that, i love it. best lens ever for FE. and it says on the metal body 'made in japan'.
Zeiss 100%
The Sony 50mm f/1.8 is light and small, not to mention extremely affordable. What's the point of this 50mm f/2.5?
Any links to lenses?
You do so many Giveaways but never announce the winners name Sir? Is it just for fun you always Giveaway?? Who won that mini drone in Instagram ?
Nice Batgirl.
Expensive? Looking at compact Leica lenses..
don't look at them, they are not in the same league and nothing to do with sony fe mount.
these are overpriced plastic chinese slow focusers. look at samyang rather which are at third price brand new.
Sonys 28mm f2 is about the same price at $500.
Also the sony 50 mm f1.8 is only $200-$300 depending on where you get it.
Yes, but I would say the 50/1.8 is a very disappointing lens, especially when it comes to focusing speed. Samyang costs like 50 percent more, but it is love on a first try. Sony really needs to get their shit together and make 50 that does not feel like third party lens adapted to different system and does not cost a ton of money.
@@PosranaRegistrace I don't disagree with you. All i was wanting people to know was that there were cheaper faster alternatives than these expensive gimicks sony put out. There's kid of no point in buying these if you don't mind a slightly biggerlens.
Reminds me of Fuji's trios, I quite like em just wish it was at least F2.0.
That's exactly what I thought.
I totally agree but I think it's just physics that creates the limitation. They are however slightly brighter than the sigma trio that they recently released. I think the reason fuji can pull that off is because it's aps-c. So in reality it's probably closer to a 2.8 or whatever
@@akyerit and yet 35mm film lenses were much much smaller and f/1.4 and f/2 lenses.
@@412foto thats true. Even the 35 f2 in the x100v must have been tiny. And it was better glass than the original 35mm f2. And also, there's a company in japan that makes some of the tiniest pancake f2 lenses in the world. But im sure there are always sacrifices that have to be made. I'm pretty sure physics still play a big role in the making of great glass. And let's also not sleep on the fact that these tiny sony lenses are G lenses. Which up until now, Noone ever thought would be possible. To fit all that technology in such a small package. But hey I'm actually with you about everything you've said. I'm all about portability. Just seems like there's reality and science to contend with lol! But technology always has the last word
@@akyerit X100V has a 23 F2 lens , equivalent to 34.5mm F3
I switched from Sony due to the high prices of lenses. It's not that I'm opposed to paying for nice glass, I just bought 2 lenses that were over a grand each, but the value proposition has to be there and with Sony it often isn't.
Luckily, there are third-party manufacturers shoving loads of lenses to the market, otherwise the system would be dead to plenty of people.
i like how he has lok's page at the end...what happened to bokeh bros!?
canon RF 35mm 1.8 can be had around at around $400 while the 50mm 1.8 at $200 and they seem to be the same size as these sony lenses...sure build quality is probably better on these three and an aperture ring is nice but I really dont see how a prime lens that only has f2.8/2.5 justifies a $600 price tag...
I'd have ordered a 24 right away if it was £400. Sony prices really do seem ..unfair?
When you look at Sony prices, you can hear faint "oy vey!" from a distance...
The prices are completely nuts 😳
Not only that, these lenses does not even perform all that well (24 got huge distortion, vignettes just like Samyang, but costs 3 times more), yet all the reviewers are like "oh, these are perfect", you need them, the price is fine. Bloody shills.
@@PosranaRegistrace Damn right. But they are not biased at all 😅
these lenses are bloody affordable i dont know what most people are talking about
@@artemisfowl9002 take a look at Fuji lenses. Yes, it's apsc, but you get F2 for 450...
But where's the 45 Sony. So close but need that 45 to round of the set
To put in perspective: Sony 35mm f2.8 is still around $800 new.
But it sells used in the £240 range so about $300. It's a great little lens, but when you see reviews of it now compared to more modern lenses you can see its shortcomings.
Who won the DJI Mini 2 ???