THAAAAAAAANNNNNNK YOU!! I swear nobody cares about the 8th gen 2.4 Honda Accord I've been looking for a video like this for years! I bought my 2.4 '08 Honda Accord coupe in 2012 only to figure out there is nothing for it. All the aftermarket company are too cheap to try something like this and they only care about the Civic Civic Civic Civic ugh or the v6 Honda Accord coupe. They completely skipped over the 8th gen Honda Accord 2.4. Thank you man I cannot thank you enough for doing this!
For those of us who don't scroll through all the comments, does anyone know what happened to the project? I was hoping to see the completed build and dyno.
Just to share more technical knowledge about Honda's i-VTEC because I've got nothing better to do. Honda made many versions of their "i-VTEC" systems. The performance oriented i-VTEC incorporated valve lift and timing on both the intake and exhaust side. Engines like the K20A, K20A2, K20Z1, K20Z3, K24A2, and K24A3 have the performance version of i-VTEC. Some engines like the K20A3 and K24A8 only had "i-VTEC-E." Those engines don't incorporate variable valve lift, only a 12 to 16 valve switch over and variable valve timing. These engines usually produce more low-end torque and have better fuel efficiency. However, they don't rev as high and make less top-end power. In addition, their switch over is extremely early in the rev range and barely noticeable. There is another version of i-VTEC that incorporates variable valve lift, but only on the intake cam. Engines like the K24Z3 (like the one in this video) have this version of i-VTEC where VVL only occurs on the intake side. Both intake and exhaust sides still have VTC, so this systems sets itself in the middle of performance and fuel economy. You can generally tell the different K-Series engines apart by the intake manifold cover. If the lettering is red, then the engine has real "i-VTEC." If the manifold cover has black lettering or no lettering at all, it's most likely the "economy i-VTEC." Of course there's the head stamping to go off by too. I'd love to hear more facts from fellow Honda fans and enthusiasts. Thanks!
you are the best at explaining things like B is for Build and i love this project. Just keep going because this project is personal to me. Really need all the help and knowledge i can get
Thanks Justaine! I'm excited to get this going since I drive my Honda the most out of all of my cars. I am hoping to enjoy the extra power day in and day out 👍
Finally! I have a 9th gen civic si and I was looking into doing this and I can't find it anywhere, so thank you! Also I made 232hp 183tq on my 9th gen, k24z7 however I wanted to get on my exhaust and intake so I finally find you with all this!
I'm tuning a guy in Central America that has the K20z3 head on a K24z7 block. Making great power even with the stock Z7 oil pump and 1000ft above sea level. Made 233whp and 190tq on a base run. We're aiming for mid 240s by the end of it
k24a2 with type s oil pump, vtc gear skunk ultra manifold with bigger throttle body and race header valve springs, 3inch exhaust and a 4inch intake on e85 will do 300whp reving it to 9k tuned.
Make sure u use NGK plugs for this set up I read the part list you posted and I saw you are planning or planed on using BOSH spark plugs Honda motors usually perform best with NGK or Denso’s
ZunoFG4 it sounds silly but its true. I cant tell u how many times ive given several different types of bosch plugs a try and the engine always feels just a bit off. Back to ngk's or densos and u can tell the slight difference in the smoothness with which the motor revs and idles.
Sheldon Williams When you map it out it’ll be cheaper and wiser to sell your base and buy an Si. I suggest joining the 8th gen forum on Facebook to help you better understand why you don’t wanna do this
Hey I was looking to upgrade my 2008 Accord, like you, I have some mild mods, tune exhaust intake mod and a street flywheel. Am looking forward to seeing this build
I know this is an old video, but 4 piston mentions that after porting the r40 head, it is the best flowing head out of all k series for all motor applications. You can actually add vtec cams on the exhaust side of the r40 head, and it’ll be better than the k20 heads and rbb (k24a2) head
Mannnn I drive a 2014 civic si , I want to do the exact same thing , the info on how to put a rbb vtec head is very limited, I’m glad I found your videos on CZcams ! How’s the build going ? Can’t wait to see the end result!!
Well that shows the differences between the American Acura k-24 engines and our Australian accord euro K-24 engines-my 2011 accord euro cu2 luxury has the K-24z3 engine but it has vtec on the intake and exhaust cams unlike the K-24 in this engine. There are so many variants of this engine and are different in other countries. My wife has a 2006 odyssey with a K-24 A3 but in America you guys got the 3.5 v6 engine in them.
Just adding if you get 300 hp out of a 4 banger your doing good. Because on Nicks Garage (You Tube) from Montreal, Quebec he does a lot of V8 builds with forged connecting rods and pistons. Average Horsepower on his Dyno is 600 horsepower out of a V8. So your half of a V8 an 4 cylinder so if you where to get 300 hp (non turbo-ed or super charged) an Good accomplishment. Will be an interesting build for sure.
Glad you're making these videos! I just got curious on what it would take (price and difficulty) to build a Honda engine like this since I always hear people talk about it
Well the price is the biggest part of what you can and can't do. If money is no object, I'd be buying a billet K24 engine block, but they're upwards of $8k right there, and that isn't even touching internals. I have a sheet in the description box of this video that I will be updating as I buy parts and spend money towards this build.
Looking to replace both cams on a K24Z3. The OEM cams (14110-RL5-000 and 14120-RL5-000) are $600 plus each. Are there any other less costly cams that will work in the K24Z3?
The 06-08 head is better in the fact that the camshafts are slightly larger, and the intake valves are 1mm larger. The cams I'm swapping out, and I may upgrade intake valves. We'll see
You will need to properly port and polish that head in order to make 300 hp all motor. Be a lot cheaper to leave the k24z3 bone stock and put a gt30r turbo on it. That will make 450 whp a lot easier and cheaper. Hey....good luck with the build!
That is an interesting build, complex when it is already known internally more focus on the block that Honda k series are pretty reliable as proven by both the internet and various youtube channels that mainly boost these motors and everything is stock is kicking over 350 HP day in and day out. I would have thought this was a simple budget build, so a mild rebuilt head with cams and a RSX VTC timing gear, PLM Header, etc, a tune and go can reach 300 hp goal and still be reliable...Even i see that you have the ATI damper total over kill, would it have been just been easy to just use a OEM Honda ITR (the similar RSX type S) crank pulley and your good None the less good luck on the build : )
I'll be getting into the oil pump in a later video, as the Type S oil pump cannot be bolted up to the K24Z blocks. It's nice for the K24A blocks as the threaded holes of the block align with the holes in the pump. You'll see how I get around that problem.
I would have to agree with him. The K23A1 that came out of the Acura RDX is an OEM engine that came boosted and it has the same single collector found on the cylinder head. It is a smart design and makes pretty good power for an engine with 8.8:1 CR pistons.
milanmastracci also love the videos man, as a Mclaren tech it’s awesome to see someone working on things and doing the most quality job they can, used to watch more when I had my tsx but keep it up.
Are you gonna be doing this to the civic eventually?, i am thinking about doing this to my 9th gen civic and having a video reference of the build would be awesome.
Tuning on 93/94 octane I assume since you're in Ontario? E85 is hard to come by up here.. You're going to need some serious head work to make 300 whp on pump gas, p&p, 12.5:1, 80mm+ TB, big tube header, ect. Not that it hasn't been done, because it definitely has.. But the stock ports on the head will be the one thing holding you back. Contact RaceHeads in St. Andrews Ontario. The world record stock block H2b is running a Raceheads cylinder head, 300whp on M5 fuel.
Thanks for the list brother...hope to refer to it at first chance! These engines are simply amazing even stock, so i prioritized appearance and got the lowering springs, black halos, heavy tint and black Ruffino fivestars. Its all about contrast for me)) What else would you suggest look-wise Milan?
@@milanmastracci that sounds perfect, since thats the only paint chipping place on it . I kind of like how the black sunroof stands out, but i might actually give it a shot. Thanks
Hey I did a swap on my Acura CSX with a K2.4A2 Acura TSX engine the TSX engine don't have the EGR system now I am getting code PO401 exhaust gas restrictions can you please help me sort the problem out thks
Hey I was planning on building a k24z3 turbo for a DD, what do you suggest? Should I gut it and rebuild it or run it on stock internals? If I gut it what pistons and rods should I use? What type of valve/valve springs and retainers should I get? This is my first time building a motor so any suggestions or support is really appreciated. Thank you!
not too sure if you have come acorss or would be able to anwser, i have a 2009 accord cu2 with a k24a3 engine block but with the z exhasut and intake manifold, wondering if itd be a straight swap to an a3 head? or will modifications most likely need to be done
Hi milan I have watched this video atleast 5 times now.. I have a 9th gen si that is why I very interested, how is the build coming along? Love you content man!
From my understanding, the V6 will have more low end torque even after I complete my build, but mine will be lighter and should have a better top end. I'm speculating right now but we'll see 😁
THAAAAAAAANNNNNNK YOU!! I swear nobody cares about the 8th gen 2.4 Honda Accord I've been looking for a video like this for years! I bought my 2.4 '08 Honda Accord coupe in 2012 only to figure out there is nothing for it. All the aftermarket company are too cheap to try something like this and they only care about the Civic Civic Civic Civic ugh or the v6 Honda Accord coupe. They completely skipped over the 8th gen Honda Accord 2.4. Thank you man I cannot thank you enough for doing this!
FOR REAL, show some love for the accords
2.4 has no following
Tsx gang
Hey did you ever find anything on 8th gen accords?
For those of us who don't scroll through all the comments, does anyone know what happened to the project? I was hoping to see the completed build and dyno.
I'm not sure, I think he built it and then he upgraded to newer Civic SI? But, im not sure.
Just to share more technical knowledge about Honda's i-VTEC because I've got nothing better to do.
Honda made many versions of their "i-VTEC" systems. The performance oriented i-VTEC incorporated valve lift and timing on both the intake and exhaust side. Engines like the K20A, K20A2, K20Z1, K20Z3, K24A2, and K24A3 have the performance version of i-VTEC.
Some engines like the K20A3 and K24A8 only had "i-VTEC-E." Those engines don't incorporate variable valve lift, only a 12 to 16 valve switch over and variable valve timing. These engines usually produce more low-end torque and have better fuel efficiency. However, they don't rev as high and make less top-end power. In addition, their switch over is extremely early in the rev range and barely noticeable.
There is another version of i-VTEC that incorporates variable valve lift, but only on the intake cam. Engines like the K24Z3 (like the one in this video) have this version of i-VTEC where VVL only occurs on the intake side. Both intake and exhaust sides still have VTC, so this systems sets itself in the middle of performance and fuel economy.
You can generally tell the different K-Series engines apart by the intake manifold cover. If the lettering is red, then the engine has real "i-VTEC." If the manifold cover has black lettering or no lettering at all, it's most likely the "economy i-VTEC." Of course there's the head stamping to go off by too.
I'd love to hear more facts from fellow Honda fans and enthusiasts. Thanks!
Every forum I've ever seen always says the z3 isn't worth it but I'm glad to see someone putting work into the 8th gen.
you are the best at explaining things like B is for Build and i love this project. Just keep going because this project is personal to me. Really need all the help and knowledge i can get
Thanks Justaine! I'm excited to get this going since I drive my Honda the most out of all of my cars. I am hoping to enjoy the extra power day in and day out 👍
Brother it’s been 4 years WE NEED YOU
Holy shit brother, I'm so excited for you and this build!!!
I'm happy to hear that man! 👊
U are one of the only accord coupe people on the platform thank you for showing all of us how to wake up the z3
Can't wait for this whole series to be done bro!
👊❤️
1:52 minutes in and you already got the like
Best k24 swap channel PERIOD straight to the point information and facts CONGRATULATIONS
hey Milam, I have a 2009 accord coupe k24z3 and I'm planning on doing the exact same thing. I'm gonna model my build after yours ! good luck
That's awesome Estefan! I hope this works out for both of us 🔥
howd it go
K24a2 for the win. Love the a2s!
They're an impressive engine! 👍
06+ 👍🏽
Finally! I have a 9th gen civic si and I was looking into doing this and I can't find it anywhere, so thank you! Also I made 232hp 183tq on my 9th gen, k24z7 however I wanted to get on my exhaust and intake so I finally find you with all this!
Well I hope this works out for you! 👊 What mods do you have that have given you that power?
I could not have asked for a better series for your channel. Really looking forwards to see this build! :D
Thanks Fredrik! I'm looking forward to it as well 👍
I'm tuning a guy in Central America that has the K20z3 head on a K24z7 block. Making great power even with the stock Z7 oil pump and 1000ft above sea level.
Made 233whp and 190tq on a base run. We're aiming for mid 240s by the end of it
This is so awesome. Thank you for describing the function of the lobes
*patiently waits for dyno video*
Seriously though, SO much great info in this series, hope it continues soon!
You're literally doing everything I couldn't do on my old 8th gen haha. Really hyped for this build man!
Who's to say you can't? Or do you have an S2k? The one in your profile pic?
@@milanmastracci I unfortunately had to sell my 8th gen a few years ago due to relocating across the globe, but I currently drive an AP2 S2k now!
Damn that's a heck of an upgrade 🙌
I've seen these things in pictures but seeing the R40 head in this video makes me want one so bad. The integrated manifold is beautiful.
I have one but want a k24a2 head lol
When my BRZ's motor blows I want one of these. I cant wait to learn how, great project! P.S. make more and sell them to us
Can't wait man. Goodluck and have fun
So excited to see the new build and the videos coming up
#TEAMMILMAST cant wait to see how you tackle this!
Yeah buddy! I'm pumped!!
That's what I'm trying to do!! I want more power. I can't wait to see this done 😎
Exciting!!
Cant wait for the next video!
That makes two of us!
Nice doc you set up, thanks for that
When this is done, you’ll want to sell the mini
True!
Probably lol
Or K-swap the Mini...
Has he finished this build? The last update was 2 years ago??
finally someone who likes k24s and actually know what they are talking about. IM SO HYPE FOR THIS SERIES!!!
k24a2 with type s oil pump, vtc gear skunk ultra manifold with bigger throttle body and race header valve springs, 3inch exhaust and a 4inch intake on e85 will do 300whp reving it to 9k tuned.
Do you own this car? Or you've seen it?
Can the manual 2004 Acura TSX transmission work in the 2011 manual Honda Accord
Subscribed. Looking forward to updates! Also: just checked your Google Docs parts sheet, great info! Thank you for providing that.
nice build, cant wait ti see the turn out
Me too dude! I'm pumped
Make sure u use NGK plugs for this set up
I read the part list you posted and I saw you are planning or planed on using BOSH spark plugs
Honda motors usually perform best with NGK or Denso’s
ZunoFG4 it sounds silly but its true. I cant tell u how many times ive given several different types of bosch plugs a try and the engine always feels just a bit off. Back to ngk's or densos and u can tell the slight difference in the smoothness with which the motor revs and idles.
My experience is the same, NGK is usually the go-to
I'm staying for this build. I'mma hopefully do this to my base 8th gen civic later on.
Sheldon Williams More work, sell it and buy an Si
@@jameslapine678 as much as I would love to get another car I don't mind putting in the work
Sheldon Williams When you map it out it’ll be cheaper and wiser to sell your base and buy an Si. I suggest joining the 8th gen forum on Facebook to help you better understand why you don’t wanna do this
@@jameslapine678 okay I will
Hey I was looking to upgrade my 2008 Accord, like you, I have some mild mods, tune exhaust intake mod and a street flywheel. Am looking forward to seeing this build
I know this is an old video, but 4 piston mentions that after porting the r40 head, it is the best flowing head out of all k series for all motor applications. You can actually add vtec cams on the exhaust side of the r40 head, and it’ll be better than the k20 heads and rbb (k24a2) head
If that is the case, that is new information as 4P has recently begun putting some work into the R40 head.
Mannnn I drive a 2014 civic si , I want to do the exact same thing , the info on how to put a rbb vtec head is very limited, I’m glad I found your videos on CZcams ! How’s the build going ? Can’t wait to see the end result!!
Well that shows the differences between the American Acura k-24 engines and our Australian accord euro K-24 engines-my 2011 accord euro cu2 luxury has the K-24z3 engine but it has vtec on the intake and exhaust cams unlike the K-24 in this engine. There are so many variants of this engine and are different in other countries. My wife has a 2006 odyssey with a K-24 A3 but in America you guys got the 3.5 v6 engine in them.
Can’t wait for the next video !!!!
Its coming! 🙌
turned on the bell notification!
Just adding if you get 300 hp out of a 4 banger your doing good. Because on Nicks Garage (You Tube) from Montreal, Quebec he does a lot of V8 builds with forged connecting rods and pistons. Average Horsepower on his Dyno is 600 horsepower out of a V8.
So your half of a V8 an 4 cylinder so if you where to get 300 hp (non turbo-ed or super charged) an Good accomplishment.
Will be an interesting build for sure.
I hope these new parts are better quality then the timing chain kit.
LOL 10000% BETTER PARTS!
I have... I have... I have... lol.... you have a stripped down engine with all different stuff. So basically you have a 2.4l on steroids.
Great video
So much knowledge 👍👍
This is going to be awesome. Slap a turbo and it will 400+ hp
If it's a daily is best to use cast pistons, forged are best for track use only vehicle
Can you please explain the transmission
What was needed? I have a k24i auto..can I add SI transmission?
I'm using the Accord Euro R,
6 speed manual w/LSD...
Can the 2004 Acura TSX transmission work in the 2011 Honda Accord
This is super helpful!
If you have the k24 engine with same block why swap the whole engine an not just the head or build the motor you have ????????
this gonna be crazzyyy
How much did you spend on upgraded components ?
Ima try to do this
Dude!!!! On fire!!!!
This is going to be awesome good luck
Thanks Gareth! 👊
@@milanmastracci welcome
Can the manual 2004 Acura TSX transmission work in the 2011 manual Honda Accord
Glad you're making these videos! I just got curious on what it would take (price and difficulty) to build a Honda engine like this since I always hear people talk about it
Well the price is the biggest part of what you can and can't do. If money is no object, I'd be buying a billet K24 engine block, but they're upwards of $8k right there, and that isn't even touching internals. I have a sheet in the description box of this video that I will be updating as I buy parts and spend money towards this build.
come down here and do mine next u bloody fool.awesome
It's just about impossible to find a complete, derailed build of a k24. Three are plenty of videos where they tslk sb2👍🏼
You can also make more power by upgrading the cooling system
Looking to replace both cams on a K24Z3. The OEM cams (14110-RL5-000 and 14120-RL5-000) are $600 plus each. Are there any other less costly cams that will work in the K24Z3?
Cool build! The 06+ tsx head I've heard is much better than the 04-05
The 06-08 head is better in the fact that the camshafts are slightly larger, and the intake valves are 1mm larger. The cams I'm swapping out, and I may upgrade intake valves. We'll see
Btw this is not a direct swap, the coolant passage would need to be modified and some other things
Will you make a video on price breakdown of cost to do a kswap?
I want this combo in my mr2.
Very nice! Are you racing those? If not, is lot work and time consumed all that power just for street.
You will need to properly port and polish that head in order to make 300 hp all motor.
Be a lot cheaper to leave the k24z3 bone stock and put a gt30r turbo on it.
That will make 450 whp a lot easier and cheaper.
Hey....good luck with the build!
What happened to the rest of the videos for this series?
From bottom of oil pan to top of valve cover , how tall is that engine?
This is gonna be interesting! Good job mate!
Hey what engine management are you considering; aftermarket needed to get to 300‽
I currently have Ktuner, but I need to find someone who can tune it to its full potential
Whats the update on this man ? Im exited for you
So did you put the a2 head on the z3 block? What did you have to change to do that. I never saw a reassembly video
Did you buy all the parts at once or did you acquire them over time and did you ever finish the build
That is an interesting build, complex when it is already known internally more focus on the block that Honda k series are pretty reliable as proven by both the internet and various youtube channels that mainly boost these motors and everything is stock is kicking over 350 HP day in and day out. I would have thought this was a simple budget build, so a mild rebuilt head with cams and a RSX VTC timing gear, PLM Header, etc, a tune and go can reach 300 hp goal and still be reliable...Even i see that you have the ATI damper total over kill, would it have been just been easy to just use a OEM Honda ITR (the similar RSX type S) crank pulley and your good
None the less good luck on the build : )
I'll be getting into the oil pump in a later video, as the Type S oil pump cannot be bolted up to the K24Z blocks. It's nice for the K24A blocks as the threaded holes of the block align with the holes in the pump. You'll see how I get around that problem.
Z3 head is good for turbo, shorter collector/tubing which relates to less lag, check bisimoto the civic he just made he explains it all.
I would have to agree with him. The K23A1 that came out of the Acura RDX is an OEM engine that came boosted and it has the same single collector found on the cylinder head. It is a smart design and makes pretty good power for an engine with 8.8:1 CR pistons.
milanmastracci also love the videos man, as a Mclaren tech it’s awesome to see someone working on things and doing the most quality job they can, used to watch more when I had my tsx but keep it up.
Whats the difference between k24z1 and k24z4?
What was Honda thinking when they designed the Z3 head?
Why not just buy a 07 usdm tsx head and put in on your k24 block? Why buy all these additional engines?
Are you gonna be doing this to the civic eventually?, i am thinking about doing this to my 9th gen civic and having a video reference of the build would be awesome.
Wow i always thought the first and second gen tsx was the same exact engine
This means I could do it to my 9th gen si since ILX & 9th gens 2012-2015 have the same engine k24z7 motor/r40
Tuning on 93/94 octane I assume since you're in Ontario? E85 is hard to come by up here.. You're going to need some serious head work to make 300 whp on pump gas, p&p, 12.5:1, 80mm+ TB, big tube header, ect. Not that it hasn't been done, because it definitely has.. But the stock ports on the head will be the one thing holding you back. Contact RaceHeads in St. Andrews Ontario. The world record stock block H2b is running a Raceheads cylinder head, 300whp on M5 fuel.
Thanks for the list brother...hope to refer to it at first chance! These engines are simply amazing even stock, so i prioritized appearance and got the lowering springs, black halos, heavy tint and black Ruffino fivestars. Its all about contrast for me))
What else would you suggest look-wise Milan?
seems like you already have a bunch done to it! Have you considered wrapping your roof black? I always find that to look good 👍
@@milanmastracci that sounds perfect, since thats the only paint chipping place on it . I kind of like how the black sunroof stands out, but i might actually give it a shot. Thanks
I have a 2007 crv whit bad engine k24z1,I found a k24a8 this engine fit my crv?
Hey I did a swap on my Acura CSX with a K2.4A2 Acura TSX engine the TSX engine don't have the EGR system now I am getting code PO401 exhaust gas restrictions can you please help me sort the problem out thks
Please Always Mention back to the name of the Engine, It's hard to keep up of Which is Which when you are Going through it!!! Thank you!!!
I have the k24z3 block on my 2010 tsx which k20 head would b the best (model and year)
What ended up happening with this build?
Hey I was planning on building a k24z3 turbo for a DD, what do you suggest? Should I gut it and rebuild it or run it on stock internals? If I gut it what pistons and rods should I use? What type of valve/valve springs and retainers should I get? This is my first time building a motor so any suggestions or support is really appreciated. Thank you!
So I need a rbb cylinder head on my 09 Accord K24z3 I-4 ?
Am I able to take that RBB head from the k24a and place them on the k24z3 block?
So can I just swap the head right over no issue I know you upgraded the internals but I’m genuinely just asking if I can swap the k24z3 with the k24a2
one question, is it mandatory for all new parts?
not too sure if you have come acorss or would be able to anwser, i have a 2009 accord cu2 with a k24a3 engine block but with the z exhasut and intake manifold, wondering if itd be a straight swap to an a3 head? or will modifications most likely need to be done
It will not be a straight swap unfortunately. The head and block ports won't line up properly.
Is building a k24z3 block worth building? Or should I get an k24A2 block? Also will it fit with a k20z1 head? Will it fit in a RSX?
Hi milan I have watched this video atleast 5 times now.. I have a 9th gen si that is why I very interested, how is the build coming along? Love you content man!
What civic si lsd transmission are you running with the k24z3 ?????
Dang I kinda wanna do this to my 09 accord 4 door lol
can i just swap the head and be fine or would i get a check engine light for swaping them
Bro, my current 2009 coupe makes 300hp with basic bolts ons, I’m interested in seeing how different it’ll be with the 4 banger vs the v6 which I have
From my understanding, the V6 will have more low end torque even after I complete my build, but mine will be lighter and should have a better top end. I'm speculating right now but we'll see 😁
If i put a k20z3 head on k24z3 block will I be able to have as much power as this set-up?
Which ECU did you use for this build?