Operation Neptune | Muv-Luv Alternative Battle Records
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It is March, 1983. East Germany is on the verge of collapse, fighting a losing war against the BETA invaders. But NATO and the United Nations are assembling an international force to strike back at the monstrous foe. Sent to represent their country, the Schwarzesmarken "Black Marks", ready themselves to fight alongside humanity's best.
In the world of Muv-Luv Alternative, humanity is at war with an alien race designated as the BETA. Due to the nature of their foe, mankind has developed Tactical Surface Fighters (TSFs) to better adapt to the battlefields of this new war. However, none of this has ever stopped humanity from engaging in their squabbles against one another.
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Muv-Luv Alternative TSF Cross Operation Vol. 5
Pronunciations...they kill me faster than the Laser-Class, and are just as numerous
Lmao 😆! Love the content nonetheless! Great job and keep it up!!
@@comixpanda Thank you! Keeping at it! 👍
@@yamamotomechbattlesatleast Gdansk was normal xd
Im surprised that politial officers dont suffer higher rates of 'accidents' or 'friendly fire' considering how terrible they seem to be at giving reasonable logical orders
Yeah. Got to be able to get away with it, or else the entire unit gets sent to be re-educated. The 666th are all decent people though, and their commissar is a little tsundere they run rings around abusing loopholes and such lol
Many of these battles are pretty hard to totally grasp in both the anime and the LN, you are doing a great service to our fan community Yamamoto.
Thanks, friend. Yeah I love breaking down the phases and steps of a battle, and loved Muv Luv for how detailed they were in doing that. Most stories just say, "Everyone charged in, they fought, boom, bang"
The anime might seem like that to people, but I want to show how much dedication and care went into fleshing out these military scenarios.
@@yamamotomechbattles If I remember well, before any battle in both the anime and LN, they give a kind of detailed description of the general operation its phases an so on, but you tend to lose the track of the battle while putting attention to the drama and the boom, bang. XD
@@animeturnMMD Exactly. Even my brain was hurting trying to keep up with things on the first watch/readthrough. There's always a lot going on.
The series instilled into me a fear of the Stasi and then learning through wikis the bat shite insanity that went on within the Stasi in the Muv-Luv world; wow.
Lise had to do some messed up shit. I loved the show, but I think they could've shown her in a far more understandable light than "crazy yandere sister"
Spoilers, This really makes me think about the end of alternative where we find the BETA aren't even really trying.
Yeah everyone was crapping their pants when they actually did lol
Keep up the good work man. Schwarzesmarken is such underrated series with so much thought on it. Even in the Muv community there's this prejudice against the "not the main trilogy" side stories.
I completely agree with all of that. And not only is Schwarzesmarken entertaining, but even in terms of its literary devices and writing craft, it's very well constructed. Much more than I expected it to be at first.
Love seeing the F14 in action, one of my favorite TSFs and real world fighters.
It was extremely satisfying for me to cover it
Good to see the ol girl fighting once again
A victory snatched from the jaws of defeat a most splendid display ideologues may differ but someone put these soldiers in for a medal
Exactly. The soldiers at the front didn't care for the politics. They were all in the same shoes and didn't think twice about helping one another
You genuinely deserve so many more views; these are incredibly high quality and so fun to watch - Please keep it up! Def a highlight in the muv luv community in current year.
Thanks! I'll definitely keep at it. Yeah, I definitely want to see this community continue to have content and growth.
Oh, I love the Intruder and it's variants. There is just something about them that gives me the chills whenever I see it.
Should start playing Muv luv, now that I have it.
Thanks for these videos. I wish you good luck.
That means a lot, I could use the luck.
The Intruder is so imposing and cool, we really need a more dedicated exploration of what it's like to be operating the thing.
Do you think that the other landings were supported by Intruders as well? We know that in 2001 it is still in service with the US Marines in Taiwan, the UK and the IJA.
I think that during operation Neptune, the US and UK Marines were utilizing their Intruders.
@@ladikthrawn7078 Most definitely they would've been there. There was just no text or info about it anywhere I looked, and only the UN ones were depicted. It's the same with Sadogashima, other Wadatsumi units were landing here and there. The anime even added the Salamanders from TDA I believe
Holding out on watching these so I don't get spoiled on Schwarzesmarken, but will leave a comment and like to help ye old algorithm.
Thanks, my friend!
I can't get over the anime girls leading these units. Everything else is completely serious and grim and then theres just...an idol girl in command of the 666.
Irisdina's the goat and I'm glad for the fortified suit lol but yeah Lise and Katia are more like idol girls
Lise was voiced by Yoshino Nanjou, then-vocalist of FripSide, so Lise *is* an idol.
Idol Girl who has been through some seriously seriously f*cked up sh*t (except Irisdina)
Well blame BETA for eating all male soldiers
How do I keep missing these amazing videos. Anyways great job as always, I watched the anime adaption of this last year so seeing a recap of the memorable joint op is most enjoyable.
Hey, always glad to have you watching! This whole arc in the anime was very well done, tugged at the heartstrings when they finally let them loose to go laser hunting and the Americans got to join in. All the extra lore I found on it made me appreciate it even more.
Having recently visited Malbork and Gdansk, this map eerily hits close to experience. Thanks for the Muv Luv content, its a very niche VN and the anime adaptations have been so-so. But the military strategy and prose is top-notch
I like the adaptations a lot, but I'm not blind to what they could've done better. But yeah, the military and history parts are what I enjoy. I think Schwarzesmarken's author had visited East Germany as well as the surrounding regions and really knew how to write about them
27:45 far from reach of the surface fleets naval guns
Cruise missile: are we a joke to you.
Lol something something guidance issues from irradiation and plasma
@@yamamotomechbattles wait plasma something is not right did a solar storm happened.
@@robertungsod691 apparently when the laser class fire into the air, the irradiation effs up the atmosphere with some sort of residual plasma-based particles in a way that ruins things like GPS guidance (related to or part of the heavy metal cloud creation process I believe); it's why the F-14s had to be guided in so they can fire the Phoenixes at visual range rather than from a safe distance
1:06 - the city is called Boxberg, not burg. while i am watching total eclipse right now, schwarzesmarken a few years back, i think i need to rewatch it, as i did not notice, that this plays so close to our home.
Thanks for the correction. I didn't even realize there was a distinction. It's always pretty cool how this series really incorporates the real world locations
@@yamamotomechbattles burg means fortification\castle, while berg is hill\mountain - one can combine both but yeah. burg, berg, dorf are often used parts for settlementnames. just as field and ville are in the US.
Finally new video, I like these type of breakdown and also keep up da good work Yamamoto 👍🏼
Thanks! This one took a lot of hard work, I appreciate the support!
OMG thank you for doing this I just found and will be checking out the rest
Thanks! Loving your comments. Hope you've enjoyed the others
i know this has been beaten like a dead horse, but given your tactical analytical skills, i would love to here your tactical telling of the MS Gundam's: Operation Odessa , and muv-luvs operation sakura.
Sure, we're getting there. I'm always happy to see these requests. Cherry Blossom will be a huge project I intend to get to this year. Odessa is ambitious too, and harder to find all the sources for different things that happened. Currently, working on the Operation 21st video is kicking my ass.
We've been waiting for you!
Thank you!
Thanks! This one took longer than I expected haha glad I got it done
Im surprised they were no attack helicopters in any engagements in operation Neptune or maybe they didn't deploy them due to the dangers of the laser class in the area.
From what information was passed to me about the VN and LN, there were attack helicopters used. But they were never depicted. Likely, they played a role whenever lasers weren't present, as Op Neptune took place over many days
Yet another awesome vid. Great job!!!
Thank you! Always glad to have you watching!
Love this long format videos
Thank you!
As a Czech, I am wondering how is Czechoslovakia holding out at this point in universe time. Are we holding the line at the Tatra mountains, or have we retreated to Czechia itself. I do not think that we have fallen, but just how are we doing right now? We definitely still have some military capability, given the presence of one of our units during Neptune.
They should be holding a battle line in the mountains by this point in time. I think I read it in one of the LNs that Germany was such a big target because those mountains were natural defenses for the countries behind them, but they obviously didn't go up as far as the Oder-Neisse Line. Along the Black Sea is also a critical engagement zone because of this. The BETA basically just take the path of least resistance
Yeah the mountains are great defense against BETA just like the Nagano Defense line in Japan or Fuji Defense line
This is why Czech was able to stop BETA advances
FUCK. CZcams didn't notify me of this video :(
Note: Oops, didn't click the bell icon b4 lol
Dang, well it's good you found it now. I'll try to upload the next one sooner too, maybe that'll boost the algorithm
You are AMAZING, THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're very welcome! Thanks for the support
Really good, high quality as always
Thanks as always my friend
what am I gonna watch for breakfast?
Yamamoto Mech Battles new video: You will need more breakfast......
Thanks for the video! it was Amazing!
Glad you liked it! Pairs very well with a good meal, enjoy the chomp!
This story definitely hits different when you leave out all the incest.
Ah yeah lol well at least they aren't immediately blood related, but it's weird to still call her sister after partaking in Alabama culture. That being said, it made sense for Lise (remember, it's cold war era espionage) to get backed into a corner and then resort to using the honeytrap, which was something her abusers trained her to do.
Thanks
You're welcome! 👍
23:37 Isn’t active defence more of a reactive doctrine then active, because this strategy is more like an offensive doctrine then what “Active Defence” would suggest.
Trust me, the whole thing confused me a lot at first. It really just seems like a large, army-scale Wing Double Five formation. But the "Active" part seems opposed to the standard strategy of establishing defense lines and retreating progressively further and further back. It essentially mixes offense and defense, but you can't use it to advance, only to lure enemies in and kill them...ultimately that would be defensive in nature. Of course, it's shown to not be a perfectly developed strategy even if it works a few times.
@@yamamotomechbattles I see.
It's a reminiscent of the "Backhand Blow", where you give some terrain in, lure the enemy, encircle, destroy, repeat. Very useful regardless if the opponent is humans or aliens with infinite manpower
What i don't get about these is the laser class intercepting only a few aim 54s I thought they were supposed to be the most effective air denial creatures in the world.
Well, Phoenixes are designed to beat Laser class in this universe -- they have terrain mapping and fly low like cruise missiles, then disperse and rise up. Plus, heavy metal clouds and support arty was drawing fire...so the Lasers targeted the high altitude shells before detecting the missiles. The mass volley helped as well. Tactics like these are how humanity counters the enemy's effective air defenses. It's a war after all, not a one-sided slaughter of humanity. Humans will always come up with innovative tech and tactics. But here, it's also demanding on resources, as Phoenixes and F-14s are more costly than F-4s and F-5s. Eventually, the price will be too much and the F-14s will be phased out early because of cost concerns.
we understand better with maps
True. In the anime, the map they briefly show is oriented the other way, as if they were attacking "upwards" or "north". So it's hard to realize they're landing in Poland when your mind doesn't register Poland ever having a southern coast. That was my experience watching it the first time
Our hero return!!
That I have
where does the clip of the jolly rogers and the other UN TSFs combat came from? do they also have anime?
Those come from other parts of the show. The Jolly Rogers and West German squadron are shown mostly throughout episodes 4 and 5. The UN A-6s are shown in episode 4 making the landing.
What happened after all? Germany had fallen?
Yes and in 1985 All of mainland Europe is lost
I can't see how humanity can survive 100 years of BETA.
Yeah as mentioned, it fell, as did the Berlin Wall. I'll be doing the specifics in the future one day. Schwarzesmarken is very beautifully written, despite how painful it is lol
COOL
Heck yeah
Something bugging me why didn't European line retreat to a safer position while they have 30 min
When are you going to do Sadogashima?
I'll be setting the stage for it next, it is a pretty significant battle
D day but with BETA and TSFes
Boi, what a channel i found...
BETA SUCKS, but humanity too, for not developing better land forces.
Good vid m8!!