Battle of the Zab River, 750 AD ⚔️ Rise of the Abbasids
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@تشارلز check either here on Kings and Generals, they have it.
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The narrator's voice adds immersion to the story. High quality CZcams documentary. Good job
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Working on it :)
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@@HistoryMarche hey historymarch I have a question of the phalanx unit of Alexander only had a long spear and a small shield when fighting couldn't they easily have been defeated with arrows. Just asking and keep up the good work I love watching your videos
master gamer 11 of 16 ranks of the phalanx would lower their spears at a precise angle to deflect arrow fire onto the ground. Hope that answers the question!
@@mastergamer-zl6zl Also, once the phalanx engaged, enemy arches couldn't fire because they would risk hitting their own troops. The front of the phalanx was also like a death machine because troops couldn't attack because their weapons were usually much shorter.
Amazing! You need to do a sequel to this that describes the life of Abd al Rahman I - who had to escape Damascus as his family was slaughtered by the Abbasids. He had to run for his life. He swam across the Euphrates, crossed Africa, took refugee with the Berbers, and escaped all the way to Spain to establish the Umayyad Emirate.
Three of his brothers died during the escape.
The youngest was just 14 when he got killed.
Two of his nephews even rebelled against him after he managed to establish the umayuad emirate.
Leaving him no choice but to execute them.
Hey my friend. Actually, as Rhys said above, I'd suggest everyone go watch your video on Abd al-Rahman. No one did a better coverage of him than you tbh.
@@HistoryMarche thanks! I just figured it would be incredible in your style.
Hey flash point! How you doing?
@@andreascovano7742 Doing well! Just hoping to get some time to finish up this next podcast episode.
I studied both Umayyad and Abbasid and other islamic history in my high school. What bugged me is that the books doesn't mention the battles in detail, it is just the numbers and who won and that is all. This channel should be part of every history class curiculum tbh.
I guess they'll only show you the battle's details if you sign up for a PhD 😅
@@yub2.045 To be honest. I'm done for that
@@yub2.045 down*
So true
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Where are you from ?
In Saudi Arabia we studied Details of the battle
Note that the rule of the Umayyads did not end. They moved to the west and ruled Spain, Portugal and southern France, led by Abd al-Rahman al-Dakhil falcon (Saqr )Quraish.
but eventually muslim claiphate of ummayad in iberia broke apart right?
@@mynamejeb8743 yes but only centuries later
@Dodadeus More like 300
@Gaylord Fawker and that's what causes them to get defeated
like the British were able to take out the sick man
divide and conquer
the ummayyade didn't stay in iberia it was the berbers who ruled iberia and influenced it with their culture
16:32 "Seeing their vanguard broken, the rest of Marwan's army decided that the best course of action was to abandon the battlefield"
Honestly this is more common than you might think. A lot of battles ended right after the first attack failed and the army suffered from low morale.
Well, maybe the Umayyads shouldn't get full Frenchmen and decided to headbutt enemy spearmen with the cavalry.
@@hannibalburgers477 This isn't total war, if you look at the Mecadonian expansion into Greece, the Champaion calvary defeated the Theban hoplites from the front.
@@lolasdm6959 If you're talking about Chaeronea, the cavalry which was led by a young Alexander, didn't charge head on into the enemy. He instead let the infantry engage then exploited a gap that formed and charged with the cavalry. More often than not, a head on charge by the cavalry into infantry at the onset of battle is just a fool's venture. Better to hold them in reserve for the critical moment or use them to engage against opposing cavalry.
@@dh3824 Yeah and he still had a contegent of calvarymen engaging the hoplites from the front which allowed him to exploit the gap. No one just yolo charges head on into enemy infantry with calvary without purpose, I don't know why you would imagine anyone being that simple to begin with. Calvary can have many roles, and harrasing the enemy lines before infantry engages is pretty standard practice. I am addressing a misconception that many people have, that calvary vs spears work in the same way irl as they do in total war games.
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@Muntasir Mahmud আপনি কি এটার সেকেন্ড id??
@Muntasir Mahmud হাসেন কেন
@Moiz Arsalan It is actually from the holy Quran 2:156.
This channel knows it's facts unlike many other youtube channels. You got a subscriber here!
Welcome to the channel.
Hello guys, after weeks of work the "Battle of Zab" is ready.
I hope you will like my first effort on a similar topic.
Yes loved it...Appreciate your efforts👏
@hoc Est bellum it is perfect
Love it! Love to see more similar topic.
@@KHK001 Thank you!The next one is under construction!
Please make videos about Mehmud Ghaznavi.
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Thank you sir.
Do you ever wish there were videos on Bangladesh history?
Cuz there are like 5 on youtube, and they are nothing like this channel :(
Check out kings and generals also, a good channel that i find is not biased at all. It's my favorite with HistoryMarche and BazBattles :)
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I was always fond of history as a child and would love seeing videos and reading books of many major historical events.Then recently i stumbled upon your channel and started watching most of your videos of the many important battles and all of your videos have been very informative and helped me learn a lot more about history.
Thank you HistoryMarche and keep up the great work!
Thank you kindly.
It was obvious the Abbasids would win if they had that badass looking flag, they should have been called the Abbadassids
lol
The black flag of abbasids represent the sadness and revenge for prophet mohamad’s family who were killed by the umayads 70 years earlier, and that was the main cause of people support to the abbasids
@@sindibad6256 nice to know, thanks!
@@sindibad6256 than why did they kill his descendents the allids ??
Ahamedi Hamiyun they made the same thing, but i don’t think that muhamad’s descendent were as good as they were back in early islam
It's amazing how 1 year later they will fight and defeat tang china
@Jerry Ren TURK BASICALLY STRONGLY BELIEVE IN ISLAM ......THATS WHY THEY WERE GOOD........LOVE TURK BCS THEY DID A LOT FOR ISLAM
@Jerry Ren how do u know they would have beat the abbasid and not the other way around again ?
@Jerry Ren
Nope turks didn't free their asssess from tang..arab who defeated tang
Yup 751 battle of the talas river,
Tibetan empire and Abbasid joined forces to defeat tang Chinese stopping Chinese expansion into Middle East area.
Funny how learning about such great people in history makes you wanna be a better person and achieve so much
For about the next 30 mins then you are back to YT and IG or whatever the hell you are addicted to.
no motivation man
Big Man A We need detox. From dopamine and whatever the hell you are addicted to.
@@ibrahim-bc1eo no he was motivated. Rather, no determination. He did not act on his motivation to remain determined.
@@arrikmontijo3916 well yeah and so the motivation dies out
That's a mistake on my part
If you want to be a better person , I suggest that you start by improving your English. "Wanna" is as bad as it comes.
Marvan II, the grandfather of Total War AI
Marwan not Marvan....he's not german....
@@haziqhamed8777 LOL
hahaha the grandfather
True :D
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When will commanders ever learn you don't charge your entire cavalry force without any infantry support?
If tanks can be called as cavalry,then Erwin Rommel is laughing from his grave rn
They didn't play enough video games...
@Elvis Presley Yes- Even if they are armored for that reason like the cataphracts. I think the reason is the wealth, large empires brought, made it's generals & commanders *decadent.*
@@simplechemistryarchives4315 Hahaha.. True.
We see a lot of famous battles where this doesn't work out but a lot of the time, a big cavalry charge will get the enemy to flee and end the battle pretty early. It's similar to "Why do armies use Elephants when it always seem to go against them in famous battles?" Obviously they worked before so commanders kept using them, unaware their adversaries have come up with a counter.
Beautifully done HistoryMarche I love your videos. As a Muslim, it is great to see neutral videos showing historical facts with no bias in either direction. Keep up the great work.
Yep! This is what happens when your banner is literally white.
Haha
Tbh that abbasid flag look good as hell its my favorite alongside the Seljuk Turks double headed eagle
@@ahamedihamiyun5927 Yeah, Muslim flags have some awesome looks imo.
@@HistoryMarche indeed but whats you're favorite Ancient flag ? Iam guessing the Roman ones ?
@@ahamedihamiyun5927 Yeah! They look awesome! Really unique imo.
That useless cavalry charge reminds me of a scene from Game Of Thrones, season 8 , episode 3 ...
Haha!
so true
@Kj_mast_er
Any living being didn't get on the ships after "hardhome" in season 4 joined the night king army
Not all Umayyades died.. the "Falcon of Quriesh" survived
They established Caliphate of Cordoba.
@@dimiryashfinov7568 True
@@dimiryashfinov7568 Caliphate of Al-Andalus with Cordoba as the capital
Abbasids were also quresh.
And Kazan's of Muhammad pbuh .
No one escaped from the Umayyad house except one person, Abd al-Rahman bin Mu’awiyah, who was able to flee to Andalusia and defeated its ruler in his battle, so he was able to establish his emirate, so the Abbasid Caliph Abu Jaafar al-Mansur sent the leader Alaa to the city of Beja in Andalusia to fight Abd al-Rahman there, but Abd al-Rahman managed to defeat him, so he named Abdul Rahman " Falcon of Quriesh "
Great as always HM n HOB! love both your videos.
Production value of these videos is getting crazy good
Never tax your people to death if you want your empire to be popular
An international proverb
Ironically, the abbasids regime taxed the people far more than the Umayyads ever did.
Usa : shaking nervously
What can I say? Dealing with your kind is taxing :)
@@abdullahshah9397
Interesting, why did they tax them more?
Thanks, It's far better than what I was thought at school
Great video, your maps are a masterpiece
Being a Muslim it's almost made me cry when he saud both armies raised their hands towards Makkah. Ya Allah please make Muslims love each other not fighting.
Read history. Muslim armies seem to do nothing better than turn on each other.
@@MarkPelleyTheSnakeHunter Bloodiest wars in the History of Mankind, World War1 and World w
War 2 were fought between Christians, followers of Jesus.
@@markheditz5216 I mean the Ottomans were a big part of WW1 but yeah all religions fight amongst each other.
Greed knows no religion. Ottomans were allies of Non-Muslims so it was not a religious war.
@@markheditz5216 look up the Muslim invasion of India, Africa etc etx and you will see that Islam has the bloodiest history. I know. I'm a Muslim and have seen this evidence myself so don't play the racist card in case you were about to.
Awesome video, ur quality getting better and brighter. Want more videos of that era.
Thank you sir.
That map at the beginning is anachronistic. Crete and Sicily weren’t conquered from the Byzantines until the 9th century.
Crete was conquered
@@nirvanic3610 No, not until the 820s.
@@zvpzvp I think your referring to Sicily
@@nirvanic3610 No, Crete was raided, but not conquered in the Umayyad period. The Arab conquests (by different power centres) were fairly contemporary, though the conquest of Sicily took longer time. On the other hand Crete was completely retaken by the Byzantines, while Sicily was lost forever.
@@zvpzvp Rashidun caliphate conquered Crete and Scilly.
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I WAITED FOR THIS SO LONG because i couldn’t find any video about it THX❤️(i love both dynasties)
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The next Assassin's Creed should be set in this era...imagine the possibilties.
Bro in the courts of Baghdad
@@baheer156 I was thinking mostly of Dubai in 750 AD....or what would become Dubai
Agent Washington you fockin what? Want Ezio to run in an endless desert for 1400 years? That part of Arabia had no cities dubai was established merely 40 years ago
@@ThePunisher014 I am well aware of that. But Persia once controlled that area, as did the Arab dynasties, like the Ummuyads
@@Alpine1996 There is more of the world that likes them that the MSM portrays. If more of Islamic culture and history was put to film, it could help spread that message
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Excellent work here
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This is great and super informative
Thank you for the video. Didn't know about it. Very informative.
So nice of you
There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab, or of a non-Arab over an Arab, and no superiority of a white person over a black person or of a black person over a white person, except on the basis of personal piety and righteousness.”- Prophet Mohammad.
there was none in the Ummayad Caliphate, most non-Arabs were non-Muslims too, so the Ummayads were not racists at all.
@@NorahAlkhalaf0they were extremely racist and wouldnt even let people convert to islam unless they were arab
Ummayads were racist and bad toward Muslims also@@NorahAlkhalaf0
The Umayyads charging their cavalry straight into spearmen from the front? Wasn't this strategy demonstrated to be a bad idea since the bronze age? I know it's easy to criticize people but people from the past but honestly, since when has that ever worked?
It mostly worked during medieval time with charging heavy cavalry into the enermy breaking them. The shock value was most important. If the enemies didn't break and routed, the cavalry didn't really have an advantage, but if the line broke under the charge, as often happened with a heavy cavalry charge in (european) medieval times, you would limit your own casualties by a lot and have the chance to destroy your enemy nearly completely.
Considering this and Marwan's trust in his great cavalry advantage, a frontal cavalry charge isn't that weird. What is weird is that it didn't immediately got supported by infantry following the charge and that no cavalry was kept back to protect the flanks or outflank the enemy.
Honestly this actually should have been an "easy" battle to win if the accounts of numbers we have now are correct. The Umayyad infantry didn't even engage before fleeing.
Depends on the spearmen. Effective long pikes and halberds weren't in wide use as anti-cavalry yet especially not in the Islamic world at this point. Phalanx units had been replaced by mass cavalry and mixed infantry for a long time. A cavalry charge of that size could ruin an army from the fear alone. He said they had to train to counter this effectively. Without that training i doubt they would have lasted the initial charge.
But, but... it did work in Lord of the Rings. ^^
Those ain't your lightly armored cavalrymen whose job is to harass skirmishers. Those are heavily armored cataphracts, the tanks of the antiquity/medieval period, with the horses armored so heavily that most spears cannot easily pierce their shell. The sheer weight hitting the receiving troops is usually more than enough to completely break unit cohesion and force a rout as everyone panics from the horses in their midst.
@taniths 1st and only sgt iron on duty still the spearmen can easilly kill the horses of the normans, which means death for them. Not a peasent spearmen though.
Well done superb presentation thank you
A period of history that i dont know much about, thank you !
Thank you for watching.
Fantastic video! I loved it. Thanks @HistoryMarche!
I will point out one small note: Arabic swords at the time were not curved, but straight, similar to their European counterparts. Curved blades became in vogue in the region after the arrival of the Seljuks.
As an Arabian I can reassure you sir that the curved sword existed even before Islam, we used to use it in Wars between tribes and other multiple situations .
This channel is monstrously underrated all contents I never thought I would find on western history channel I found here
Realy good job, thank you
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oh damn been watching you guys for years, and still havea a bunch to watch but the army animations and pictures at the beginning are AMAZING wish we coulda get more of those in more recent videos
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Ma Shaa Allah Thanks Bro for the Video
Thank you for watching.
Great narration
This channel is amazing!!! Can you cover Skanderbeg and his battles
Yes, at some point I will
Being a Muslim I truly appreciate your work on Islamic history and the battles which took place at that time
Too nice history video with clearly explaining thanks 👍
Glad you liked it
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Thanks a lot for this vid.
For how historically important this battle was, I couldn't find enough info about it.
This battle changed the rulling of almost entire Islamic world from one family to another.
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I've just finished visiting the cities of Kufa, and Mosul, and the sub-district of Zab. I wish I had seen this video before my visits as it would have made it all the more atmospheric. Thanks for this!
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Thank you for the kind words. It's totally fine if you can't donate on Patreon. I simple like, subscribe, clicking the bell button, and maybe turning off ad block would help the channel.
@@HistoryMarche my adblock is always off on youtube, it's the least i can do and funny to see what google thinks i might be interested in. After watching and reading more about islam, I now get ads to donate money to build a mosque somewhere in the usa. ;)
The content of your channel, beautiful and smooth, and the access to information through graphics can not be forgotten, thank you very much،🇸🇦❤️, I hope you do about the last days of Andalusia and the reasons for its downf
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You mean iraq lol
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Thank you for all
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This is the better method to take information
Btw are u planning on Khalid ibn al Walid or Nadir Shah ? ( They are like Napoleons of İslamic world )
Edit: I saw your Yarmouk video ! I can't wait to watch it after this
Yes, I will definitely cover Khalid's battles. He's one of the genius tactical minds and there are a lot of battles to cover, so yes.
@@rhysgregson5903 What do you think of Tamerlane? You do not need to be good at fighting at all to be a good leader. Tamerlane was a cripple so he definitely was not a good fighter. Yet he was a brilliant commander.
@@yueying1159 i think Tamerlane always win by deceptions rather good commanding, but yeah
indeed he was a great figure in the history
@@HistoryMarche and nader shah?
@@rhysgregson5903 gonna look it up.
Man, the flag of the Abbasids is very fricking cool and badass
I Agree
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Incredible way to make the war in this way thanks
I love your style. It feels like you are in battle field. Thank you very much.
Glad you enjoy it!
Man your videos are awesome as always . Really love everyone of them
I appreciate that!
Finally A video on my one of Favourite topics! Thank you History Marche. #YouTheBest
Thank you for watching. Make sure to check out Hoc Est Bellum channel (link in description), he did most of the work here.
@@HistoryMarche Sure Buddy.
By the way, i read your reply in your voice (voice used in video)
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The thumbnail looks like a battle from a game. Love the usual high quality of this channel!
Glad you enjoy it!
Thank you for this beautiful channel that transmits facts with all credibility .. Thank you to all those in charge of it .. Islamic history is a long history and a history full of events, lessons and lessons .. I wish you continued and there will be many followers from the Arab and Islamic world. Thank you 🌹
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Marwan sent all his cavarly charging straight forward into the tightly packed spears. Marwan is a fool. Dont be like Marwan.
stupidest tactic ever
1000 later ney did the same in waterloo
real battles don't work the same way the ones in total war do
but yeah
there must have been a valid reason for that
@@floppacultist954 there were all types of manipulations he could have played with the superiority in numbers in his cavalry, and he chose to just charge into spears!! what kind of reason there could have been to make him do that!!
Maybe using heavy disciplined cavarly like templars or teutonic knights to charge frontaly but again its risky
Open rebellion, power vacuum. it’s a good opportunities to seize more power in Crusader Kings 2
see my nhme, it's of pivotal importance
Well done history marche , well done 👌
It's nice to learn history. Thanks.
Amazing content as usual. Love to watch your videos. Hoping for something on How Mongols fell
The fall because Muslims started to defeat them and most mongol army converted to Islam
The abbasid then went to defeat a Chinese empire in central asia at the battle of talas for good
I have a video, the Battle of Talas as well, check it out: czcams.com/video/cQiFY5x_DrY/video.html
Die yes Abu Muslim won both battle of Zab and Battle of Talas the 2 most famous battles in Abbasid Caliphate history
Great voice with perfect presentation
Thank you kindly!