The Battle of Crug Mawr 1136 AD

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  • @xyz2121
    @xyz2121 Před 4 lety +1270

    I was once on a bus tour of Wales. Every so often, the Welsh bus driver would point to a passing field and say "And this is where we thrashed the English". After hearing this half-a-dozen times at different places, an irate Englishman stood up and said "Surely the English defeated the Welsh somewhere?". To which the bus driver replied "Not on my bus they didn't!".

    • @andymoore9977
      @andymoore9977 Před 4 lety +67

      Did the bus driver confuse the Normans for the Anglo Saxons? A mistake often made by those, usually tenuously, claiming Brythonic ancestry.

    • @donaldedward4951
      @donaldedward4951 Před 4 lety +74

      The Welsh never met the English in battle. It was Normans who having defeated the English eventually defeated the Welsh.

    • @andymoore9977
      @andymoore9977 Před 4 lety +19

      @Johannes Liechtenauer Very true Johannes, but for many it is much simpler to see 'history' that way. Some even believe that Wales was a nation united under one king for centuries.

    • @ValleysOfRain
      @ValleysOfRain Před 4 lety +85

      @Johannes Liechtenauer If you view the English as purely being the Anglo Saxons, sure, but that's factually incorrect. The English are a mixture of Anglo-Saxon, Norman, Danish and so on.
      Getting blame for what your forebears did is the plat du jour when it comes to historical politics, I'm afraid.

    • @nestpascamillekazeyquiveut9984
      @nestpascamillekazeyquiveut9984 Před 4 lety +7

      Vive la Normandie!!!

  • @Schniedragon88
    @Schniedragon88 Před 4 lety +1482

    Normans: "We got heavy cav, this will be easy!"
    Welsh: "Bold words for someone in longbow range."

    • @meeshermans297
      @meeshermans297 Před 4 lety +26

      if they'd just used their advantage and attacked the welsh immediatly instead of allowing the welsh to prepare they would have won EASILY

    • @wifehuman8084
      @wifehuman8084 Před 4 lety +7

      @@meeshermans297 exactly!

    • @HeLpLOstGOdAny1
      @HeLpLOstGOdAny1 Před 4 lety +63

      ​@@meeshermans297 Ah the ''what if'' line; played centuries too late and with the same overconfidence of the inexperienced.

    • @danielmorris6584
      @danielmorris6584 Před 4 lety +18

      @@meeshermans297 Easily? Not sure. It's very possible they would have been stuck in a "fishbowl" if they all charged forward. Only the front lines would be able to engage, the majority of Normans would be stuck in the mosh pit. Casualties from archer volleys would be worse running forward to be stuck in a crowd.

    • @meeshermans297
      @meeshermans297 Před 4 lety +4

      @@danielmorris6584 No, the archers wouldn't have been set up yet and as such would be too incoherent to deal large amounts of casualties, and a charge of that caliber would easily have routed at least a few hundred welsh soldiers, meaning a prolonged melee was probably not going to happen. even if you get stuck in a 'fishbowl', an experienced commander would realised the enemy troops are tied up figghting and send around their heavy cavalry to charge them from behind.

  • @HistoryTime
    @HistoryTime Před 4 lety +159

    Epic battle. FOR GWYNEDD !

  • @TheOnyxisthere
    @TheOnyxisthere Před 4 lety +607

    Richard de Clare: “care for a round of gwent?”

    • @MaciejBogdanStepien
      @MaciejBogdanStepien Před 4 lety +6

      ha!

    • @about80ninjas
      @about80ninjas Před 4 lety +16

      I’m hankering for a round of Gwent...

    • @dawn-blade
      @dawn-blade Před 4 lety +55

      Welsh rebels: "Damn, you're ugly."

    • @pradshaw89
      @pradshaw89 Před 4 lety +32

      Silently nods.

    • @johnshelton1141
      @johnshelton1141 Před 4 lety +7

      If only the Saxons had longbows at Hastings, the Normans would have driven back into the sea. The tyrannic Nobility would have never taken power. England would resembled Iceland, a land run by ordinary people.-

  • @ghfdt368
    @ghfdt368 Před 4 lety +59

    As someone who is a fluent Welsh speaker i really appreciate the effort taken to pronounce welsh words and names properly. I had actually never heard of this battle before but today i learned something! Diolch yn fawr

  • @corey3904
    @corey3904 Před 4 lety +133

    "The clamor of bent steel and agony rang out across the battlefield"
    Well written!

  • @randomguy-tg7ok
    @randomguy-tg7ok Před 4 lety +1168

    Normans: We're just much better than you in quality and quantity.
    Welsh: We have the longbow.
    ...
    Hmm... this'll be useful against the French.

    • @80ki68
      @80ki68 Před 4 lety +52

      Yeah, that is indeed where they got it from.

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman Před 4 lety +36

      Goddamn bows... If they're in the open fields you can break them with an infantry advance followed by a cavalry charge, that's what Jeanne d'Arc did. But if they're defensive... better wait to invent canons then...

    • @JackBlack-py4en
      @JackBlack-py4en Před 4 lety +12

      Zacharie Guillerey and that’s what I thought Fitz shoulda done here. When the infantry started taking some arrows, full charge and use cavalry heavy on one flank (some on the other flank) to outflank and route from behind. At least not suffer devastatingly like here.

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman Před 4 lety +1

      @@JackBlack-py4en I 100% agree : take the first volley and then charge in. The Cavalry should cover for potential ambushes

    • @80ki68
      @80ki68 Před 4 lety +14

      @@JackBlack-py4en
      Yeah, but the Welsh probably could have gotten their bowmen behind the infantry by the time the Normans hit, and Welsh infantry was primarily made up of decent spearmen, which isn't the type of unit cavalry wants to hurl itself into. While they overall would probably have ended up in a better position after the battle, I don't think victory would be certain. The Welsh could continue pelting the infantry and cavalry, both during the charge and the slow slugging match that would ensue, and their spearmen could make use of their defensive position. The advantage of the English would be better attacking infantry and the option for cavalry to flank. This probably would have been what transpired if only the Normans knew the power of the Welsh longbows, and the Welsh still may have won, but I think the Normans were put into shock by how devastating the volleys were.

  • @harryworth3317
    @harryworth3317 Před 4 lety +417

    You missed the best part, as the Norman's retreated to the nearest castle, the bridge outside the castle collapsed under the weight killing hundreds.

    • @therighteousmoose5036
      @therighteousmoose5036 Před 4 lety +22

      That happened a lot during retreats, actually.

    • @rhodrison
      @rhodrison Před 4 lety +49

      Normans be fat

    • @christianfreedom-seeker934
      @christianfreedom-seeker934 Před 4 lety +1

      This is true? That bridge was likely wooden then or stone of poor construction.

    • @rhodrison
      @rhodrison Před 4 lety +34

      @@christianfreedom-seeker934 nah, superb quality, fat Normans tho

    • @pigsassispork
      @pigsassispork Před 4 lety +27

      That's a delightfully gory anecdote. I had an uncle in the army. He said that when they encountered a bridge while marching, they were instructed to 'break step', as the pounding of two thousand boots in unison could cause serious damage to a structure. But I don't know. Did soldiers march in step in those days? Perhaps it was just a shabby bridge. And I suppose one is not marching with the enemy pursuing in near proximity. At any rate the past comes alive with these sort of musings. Thank you Harry.

  • @nerdsforever4852
    @nerdsforever4852 Před 4 lety +502

    As a Welshman its always nice to see Crug Mawr get it's due

    • @noifurze6397
      @noifurze6397 Před 4 lety +9

      As someone who's half welsh this was very interesting

    • @LEFT4BASS
      @LEFT4BASS Před 4 lety +30

      I’m of Welsh and English descent. My surname originated in Monmouthshire and my first name at least Celtic, if not Welsh.
      It’s amazing that the Welsh identity and language have been able to survive all this time.
      I hope to see the Welsh language rise up again. Long live wales.

    • @ereynolds72
      @ereynolds72 Před 4 lety +7

      LEFT4BASS it’s growing still mate

    • @dragonofwales
      @dragonofwales Před 4 lety +14

      Cymru am byth!

    • @szalard
      @szalard Před 4 lety +5

      @@LEFT4BASS Amen brother! Amen!

  • @totalwartimelapses6359
    @totalwartimelapses6359 Před 4 lety +250

    Always loved how BazBattles distinguished themselves as the history channel that covers the most obscure battles in history

    • @Isleep-walking
      @Isleep-walking Před 4 lety +13

      Still wish he would do more series like the japan and greek ones.

    • @SuperRichyrich11
      @SuperRichyrich11 Před 4 lety +13

      Not obscure but lesser known. Many of the not-so-famous battles they cover were hugely influential or important in some way. For instance, this was the first battle that proved archers could BTFO heavy Calvary which at the time was seen as near invincible on the European battlefield..... a foreshadowing of Agincourt lmao

    • @totalwartimelapses6359
      @totalwartimelapses6359 Před 4 lety +6

      @@SuperRichyrich11
      Oh don't get me wrong I ain't downplaying their importance, just saying if you poll people (interested in history) about this battle, highly doubt you'd get more than 10% who heard of it
      Compared to for example Zama or Alesia

    • @bernie910
      @bernie910 Před 4 lety

      vin 950 it's on the A487 in Penparc, just outside Cardigan, the line of the track in this video, is the actual main road today, I drive it most days and always think of this battle as I do. When he says, after the battle, that the retreating English crossed the bridge in Cardigan to escape, it doesn't state that the bridge collapsed and there was much slaughter of the English.

  • @dylanmcdowell3894
    @dylanmcdowell3894 Před 4 lety +14

    This guy cares more about Welsh pronunciation than any other non-Welsh History CZcamsr and it shows. Great channel; great video.

  • @carlpult5235
    @carlpult5235 Před 4 lety +246

    What many people forget when talking about the Norman Conquest is that the Longbow only became a significant part of English warfare once the Welsh were incorporated. This goes so far as to invent explinations for the lack of Archers in the Anglo-Saxon ranks at Hastings.

    • @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
      @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 Před 4 lety +2

      Carl Pult the Normans were already using archers in 1066, as shown in the Bayeux Tapestry.

    • @arandomguy8771
      @arandomguy8771 Před 4 lety +17

      @@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 most likely with significantly less range so not as useful but with a longbow you have massive range so more men would be wanted who could shoot a longbow than a shortbow

    • @robertross5006
      @robertross5006 Před 4 lety +4

      England has always had Longbows but they were mainly for hunting, not warfare because at the time it was very expensive to build and replace lost arrows that could pierce shields, when the Normans became much more wealthier they could afford them but because of the mindset of the time many lords refused seeing it as dishonorable (example from the battle of Maldon) or not a great tactic, so even if the welsh weren't incorporated into the Kingdom, England would be able to get their own long bowmen.

    • @raymondjames1341
      @raymondjames1341 Před 4 lety +1

      Did king Harold's english army not kill king hardrada from Norway with an arrow at the battle of Stamford bridge??

    • @I_Don_t_want_a_handle
      @I_Don_t_want_a_handle Před 4 lety +2

      @@raymondjames1341 A shot from Norway to Yorkshire would require more than a long bow ... ;p

  • @ieuanrogers9978
    @ieuanrogers9978 Před 4 lety +13

    As a Welshman and native of the mentioned Cardigan I have to say you did a good job of the Welsh pronunciations. Good video.

  • @cymro6537
    @cymro6537 Před 3 lety +21

    Little known fact :Per square mile, Wales has the most battlefield sites in Britain.
    Additionally - per square mile has the most castles in the world.

  • @Inucroft
    @Inucroft Před 4 lety +842

    On the whole, some decent pronunciations.

    • @danboud8135
      @danboud8135 Před 4 lety +67

      Cheers. Effort was made. /bows

    • @julez2106
      @julez2106 Před 4 lety +17

      Dan Boud superb pronunciation, as always!!

    • @Inucroft
      @Inucroft Před 4 lety +18

      @@danboud8135 Main issue with Wales is.. Welsh isn't a single language. It's two classed as one.

    • @kinghunter1996
      @kinghunter1996 Před 4 lety

      03germas is that so ? Never heard that before

    • @Inucroft
      @Inucroft Před 4 lety +20

      @@kinghunter1996 You have Gogleth (North) welsh & Taff (Mid/West) Welsh. Though they are trying to standardise it into a single language.....
      Both these living within the Bythonic Group that also includes Cornish & Bretonic.

  • @chasespeer251
    @chasespeer251 Před 4 lety +42

    Here in America, most people don't even know Wales is a place yet here is another example of them not giving a damn against the power houses of their day. Respect

    • @leod-sigefast
      @leod-sigefast Před 4 lety +4

      @IRONHILLdwarf * No, they are mostly descended from the English. I know you like to wish otherwise, but the English founded and settled the South of the USA. The Scots, Welsh, and Irish had tiny populations in comparison to the English. It is just anti-English wish-it-was.

    • @54356776
      @54356776 Před 4 lety +1

      @IRONHILLdwarf *
      That explains all the incest then 😂

    • @NickLongFilmmaking
      @NickLongFilmmaking Před 3 lety +1

      @IRONHILLdwarf This topic has a lot of misconception there. You are both right and wrong. The reason for there being many americans with irish, scottish and welsh descent is because of the great migrations that happened after the colonisation of america. the celtic nations of britain were still under oppression and unfortunately is still happening to this day. Many wanted to start a new life of opportunity in America because of the way the celtic nations were and still are being treated - like second class citizens despite being the original inhabitants of britain. But this is why you have Welsh speaking areas in America.

    • @NickLongFilmmaking
      @NickLongFilmmaking Před 3 lety

      @IRONHILLdwarf when i said "you are both right and wrong" i was talking about you and the guy who mentioned about it being primarily english descent. I'm Welsh myself and live in Wales... i think your response then was a little over defensive.. i just stated the main event in my culture's history that is the primary cause for celtic dna comimg to America.. but to go as far as to say that the dna is 90% scotch irish is incorrect... thats just not possible with the history of the US, you have such a large mixing of dna with English, celtic, spanish and native american settlers it would be stupid to suggest pure celtic genetics in america...

    • @NickLongFilmmaking
      @NickLongFilmmaking Před 3 lety

      @IRONHILLdwarf furthermore, here is a quote "In the 2017 American Community Survey, 5.39 million (1.7% of the population) reported Scottish ancestry, an additional 3 million (0.9% of the population) identified more specifically with Scotch-Irish ancestry, and many people who claim "American ancestry" may actually be of Scotch-Irish ancestry." After further reading on this across a few websites its estimated around 9.2% of american population is of scotch-irish ancestry... that is far from 90% celtic dna in america

  • @owainevans89
    @owainevans89 Před 4 lety +114

    Yes. Finally a welsh battle. Perhaps the rebellion of owain glyndwr in future

    • @bujin1977
      @bujin1977 Před 4 lety +11

      The Battle of Bryn Glas (Pilleth) is a fascinating one for Owain Glyndwr. I'd like to see a video on that one!

    • @bujin1977
      @bujin1977 Před 4 lety +3

      @Johannes Liechtenauer Because the manner of the Welsh victory is what makes Bryn Glas interesting. To me, anyway.

    • @karlkuttup
      @karlkuttup Před 4 lety +1

      as a long distance relatiave of owain ap glyndwr dont know how many of his male line he knew of im a cousin of the line my greatgrandad allso owian owen williams came from angelessy he had a family tree done in the 1970s allso got oliver cromwell in my family line as well bit strange

    • @bradjones2329
      @bradjones2329 Před 4 lety

      @me and me snp? sounds good to me ;)

    • @angrywelshman7207
      @angrywelshman7207 Před 4 lety +1

      @me and me we actually have our own SNP of sorts it's called Plaid Cymru but it doesn't even hold the majority, Cymru has always been clashing between labour and conservative, mostly labour in front but conservatives are normally right behind labour.

  • @TheSamuraijim87
    @TheSamuraijim87 Před 4 lety +59

    Welsh Longbowmen - destroying armies of French knights from foot before it was in vogue.
    Hope we get to see all the Welsh campaigns from this to Llewelyn the Great, to King Edward's wars to Owain Glyndwr.

  • @joshclark2274
    @joshclark2274 Před 4 lety +71

    As a Welsh man and history student. I wanna thank you creating this incredibly informative video. Cymru am Byth!

    • @larryreese6146
      @larryreese6146 Před 4 lety +1

      Hey friend, greetings from Oklahoma. Tell me are there many people in Wales with the name of Rhys, Rees, or Reese? Family lore says that our family came from Southern Wales in about 1730. Of course that was before we became acquainted with the Scots Irish and Native American ladies.

    • @JB-if5or
      @JB-if5or Před 4 lety +2

      Larry Reese the first 2 are kind of common

    • @ereynolds72
      @ereynolds72 Před 4 lety +2

      Larry Reese Rhys is the correct name for Wales, Reese may be an anglicised spelling of a south welsh name.

    • @larryreese6146
      @larryreese6146 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ereynolds72 family sources have always said from a family who came from Breckon to land in New Castle, Connecticut, then filtered into Pennsylvania and down into the Piedmont of N. Carolina. From there my particular branch mixed with the Cherokee and went west on the Trail of Tears. Original ApRhys changed to Reese. Thanks.

    • @larryreese6146
      @larryreese6146 Před 4 lety +1

      @@ereynolds72 I am unfamiliar with conditions in Wales during the 1700s that might have influenced my family's immigration from there but would be very interested in learning if there might have been some catalist which caused the immigration. They were said to be strict Presbyterians and in about every instance they lived among, married into, and migrated with the Scots Irish.

  • @jimjamjimjam7700
    @jimjamjimjam7700 Před 4 lety +5

    Hi BazBattles,
    Welshman here.
    Thank you for pronouncing things correctly

    • @jimjamjimjam7700
      @jimjamjimjam7700 Před 4 lety +1

      @@clairfayne
      Haha I can do "llanfairpwllgwyngwyll" then "mumblemumble" then "gogogoch"
      I'm working on it :p

  • @Zelein
    @Zelein Před 4 lety +13

    More content about Wales, Ireland and Scotland please! This is some real eye-opening stuff for someone who until now knew very little about the history between Wales and England

  • @OwainapDewi
    @OwainapDewi Před 4 lety +24

    Thank you for covering Welsh history!

  • @ManofSteel4910
    @ManofSteel4910 Před 4 lety +33

    It does my heart good to see my Welsh ancestors routing some Normans.

  • @etmooreca9612
    @etmooreca9612 Před 4 lety +29

    Always proud to learn about the country of my heritage 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿❤️!

  • @arandomguy8771
    @arandomguy8771 Před 4 lety +318

    Moral of the story dont mess with Welsh Longbowmen.

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok Před 4 lety +13

      Yep. Never mess with the Welsh Longbowmen.

    • @tancreddehauteville9983
      @tancreddehauteville9983 Před 4 lety +7

      Paulo Mendes Then even the mountains weren’t safe

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok Před 4 lety +21

      Hey, even in the gunpowder era, any time you see a British unit that's obviously not English, it's basically an elite unit.

    • @kingskelett6265
      @kingskelett6265 Před 4 lety +6

      The random guy In other words:
      First third of the 100 years war
      (In all seriousness Longbows are really scary, pretty good AP, longest shot with 250m and very fast to fire with I think 6 arrows per minute or more)

    • @magnuscoles5010
      @magnuscoles5010 Před 4 lety +5

      Unless you're the mong... Oh wait! wrong place sorry

  • @chadhill455
    @chadhill455 Před 4 lety +19

    Yesss. So damn chuffed when I saw a Welsh battle. I also love the proper pronunciations of Welsh names and places. Please do more!

  • @jonharper8963
    @jonharper8963 Před 4 lety +321

    The normans had every reason to be over confident, never a good sign if I know my Baz battles....

    • @yusassin1449
      @yusassin1449 Před 4 lety +7

      I think you're not wording it correctly, what you want armies to doubt themselves? No my friend you probably meant over-confident. Being confident is NEVER a bad thing but there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance/ being over-confident.
      I mean the Welsh were CONFIDENT enough to take on the Normans if they weren't confident they would have just retreated.

    • @alexanderchristopher6237
      @alexanderchristopher6237 Před 4 lety +4

      @@yusassin1449 he said overconfident though, not just confident.

    • @yusassin1449
      @yusassin1449 Před 4 lety +7

      @@alexanderchristopher6237 Well this is embaressing, I wrote that comment right after I woke up so I seem to have misread the comment. I seem kinda stupid now... Anyways if the person who wrote the top comment reads this, my apologies lol

    • @sjonnieplayfull5859
      @sjonnieplayfull5859 Před 4 lety +1

      @@yusassin1449 his basic point is: with BazBattles' video's its usualy a surprising victory. The one likely to win does not, even though they had every right to be over confident.

    • @yusassin1449
      @yusassin1449 Před 4 lety +3

      @@sjonnieplayfull5859 Yes I understood that part I just seem to have missed one word wich was "over".

  • @MrCymru
    @MrCymru Před 2 lety +5

    Ry'n ni yma o hyd! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇨🇮🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @ekn_38
    @ekn_38 Před 4 lety +295

    Every time I forget that I'm subscribed but get positively surprised nevertheless.
    Keep up the great content^^

  • @zoetropo1
    @zoetropo1 Před 4 lety +56

    4:35 Never underestimate the people of Gwent: they twice defeated the Romans’ famed II Augusta legion.

  • @LuigianoMariano
    @LuigianoMariano Před 4 lety +56

    Anglo-Normans: They can't win! We have the numbers and the high ground!
    Welsh: Target practice!

  • @HKgaming86
    @HKgaming86 Před 4 lety +49

    Welsh Longbowman: Hold my ale, I'm about to end this man's career

    • @nigelsheppard625
      @nigelsheppard625 Před 4 lety +5

      Cwrw not ale.

    • @goosequillian
      @goosequillian Před 4 lety +5

      I do not know when you millennials realise that you have aped the same rubbish literally millions of times. A mere toddler has something more engaging to say.

    • @HKgaming86
      @HKgaming86 Před 4 lety +3

      @@goosequillian I'm guessing you're the type of guy who only appreciates a good cat meme?

    • @ashjones2627
      @ashjones2627 Před 4 lety +2

      @@goosequillian I know...the fall of western civilisation will be communicated purely through emojis and memes.

    • @ComradeBucket
      @ComradeBucket Před 4 lety +3

      Literally no one:
      Tom Conradson: Toddlers>Memes

  • @andrewchapman2039
    @andrewchapman2039 Před 4 lety +172

    "Hmm, it's been a while since the last video..."
    Video uploads
    Video features a lot of Welsh names.
    "Oh, I understand now."

  • @steveballinger9643
    @steveballinger9643 Před 4 lety +8

    A single Welshman on a large hill caught the eye of a Norman army leader. The Welshman ducked behind the hill as the leader signalled a thousand infantry to give chase. They disappeared behind the top of hill and an hour later just one returned..”its a trap,” he told the Norman leader, “..there are two of them!!”

  • @HeroHoundoom
    @HeroHoundoom Před 4 lety +15

    The Welsh people were among the first to taste English imperialism. To this day the title of Prince of Wales is granted to the heir apparent of the English throne.

    • @agt155
      @agt155 Před 4 lety +5

      You mean Norman imperialism. The Anglo-Saxon English fled, the English left were enslaved Brits. As for the 'Prince of Wales', that was Henry VIII's (Welsh King) way of trying to create a united Britain - taking us back to pre-Viking days.

    • @HeroHoundoom
      @HeroHoundoom Před 4 lety +2

      @@agt155 No I meant English imperialism for the Normans virtually became English albeit gradually. Also, yes the title of Prince of Wales was intended to further unify Britain. However, who was meant to and did indeed dominate this "union" ? England of course. If that's not imperialism, what is?

    • @agt155
      @agt155 Před 4 lety +2

      @@HeroHoundoom Robert of Gloucester in the mid to late thirteenth century:
      ...the Norman could not speak anything then except their own speech, and they spoke French as they had done at home, and had their children taught it, too, so that important men in this country who come from their stock all keep to that same speech that they derived from them; because, unless a man knows French, he is thought little of. But humble men keep to English and their own speech still. I reckon there are no countries in the whole world that do not keep to their own speech, except England only.
      Dominate in which way? England became part of Britain. Britain did not become England.

    • @po5333
      @po5333 Před 3 lety

      The Title of Prince of Wales was created in 1216 by Llywelyn The Great. How was it "created" to unify Britain when Great Britain didn't exist then.

  • @JB-if5or
    @JB-if5or Před 4 lety +7

    Awesome love that your took an interest in our country 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🔥🔥

    • @JB-if5or
      @JB-if5or Před 4 lety

      Johannes Liechtenauer yes true that

  • @brandoncrapse1156
    @brandoncrapse1156 Před 4 lety +20

    That was truly well done. That was a battle that is overlooked and I myself had never heard of. Great job guys. Much love, much respect.

  • @trots69
    @trots69 Před 4 lety +18

    Cymru am byth, by the way cracking pronunciation baz well done!

    • @drspaseebo410
      @drspaseebo410 Před 4 lety +1

      I suspect you mean "Cymru am byth", which means "Wales forever".
      Pob hwyl !
      /

    • @trots69
      @trots69 Před 4 lety

      Dr Spaseebo problem of using an English autocorrect keyboard

  • @smartyplants7666
    @smartyplants7666 Před 4 lety +26

    As a Welshman myself you were spot on with the pronunciations, top job with the video.

    • @KozmykJ
      @KozmykJ Před 4 lety +4

      Except for CRUG , He pronounced it "Croog". It should be "Creeg"

    • @KozmykJ
      @KozmykJ Před 4 lety +1

      @FearOfFacts Better ;^)

    • @danielthomas3333
      @danielthomas3333 Před 4 lety

      smartyplants The pronunciations were only mediocre. It was obvious to a welsh speaker the it was fake

    • @algwallt869
      @algwallt869 Před 4 lety

      @@KozmykJ Wrong Im afraid, its CR'UGH'G (and not as in Hugh, more like the sound you make when you see something unpleasant).

    • @KozmykJ
      @KozmykJ Před 4 lety +2

      @@algwallt869 Welsh 'U' is pronounced like the English 'EE' , or it is down here at least.
      Are you from up there perhaps?
      Talks funny up there they does, isn't it. 😜

  • @jamesknightvo
    @jamesknightvo Před 3 lety +6

    Well done for making the effort to pronounce Welsh names accurately!

  • @agnezabarutanski1963
    @agnezabarutanski1963 Před 4 lety +10

    Whenever there's a battle involving longbows, the underdog is about to shock the superpower.

  • @jedirevan5892
    @jedirevan5892 Před 4 lety +22

    One of my favorite types of class in the University of CZcams. If you have the right channels subscribed you could learn all types of things.

  • @MRMcLean98
    @MRMcLean98 Před 4 lety +8

    Welsh and proud 😄🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @namelessentity5851
    @namelessentity5851 Před 4 lety +11

    "Bent steel and agony"....I dig that.

  • @muchentuchen6592
    @muchentuchen6592 Před 4 lety +21

    "Welshmen ready your bows "

    • @samwood1799
      @samwood1799 Před 4 lety +7

      "Cymro, aros am fy gorchymyn" (Welshmen, await my command)

    • @roryokane5907
      @roryokane5907 Před 4 lety +1

      Sam Wood “Cymry: arhoswch am fy ngorchymyn!” (welshmen, wait for my order!”)

  • @xXKirkSoloXx
    @xXKirkSoloXx Před 4 lety +110

    WALES? IVE NEVER CLICKED SO FAST! CYMRU AM BYTH!

  • @garethpowell8344
    @garethpowell8344 Před 4 lety +4

    Hi Baz. This was amazing, thanks. There are hardly any writings about Welsh history, so I also found this fascinating. Please do more!

  • @samevans847
    @samevans847 Před 4 lety +32

    Proof the Cheesy Longbows in Age of Empires are historically accurate!

  • @Connor_JR
    @Connor_JR Před 4 lety +3

    As a Welshman I just want to say that I appreciate the effort that went into the pronunciations of some of these words. A valiant attempt!

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Před 4 lety +7

    Wales entire history is just refusing to die and continue fighting.

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Před 4 lety +2

      Not really. They got conquered by the Romans and the English, and ceased to exist as independent states for very large amounts of history (1st century to 4th century; 13th century to current day).

    • @tomk.williams1186
      @tomk.williams1186 Před 4 lety +3

      @@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 yeh but we're still here ..pussy boi

    • @tomk.williams1186
      @tomk.williams1186 Před 4 lety

      @Johannes Liechtenauer wow that's a fine English name you have and I bet you don't know anyone who has homes in the Welsh county side....but my family predominantly live in the country side and has second homes in Cornwall and Yorkshire..... where my uncle was tasked with shutting down the coal mines up north and got to keep the managers houses..so if you heard a Welshman by the name of Williams was coming to town in the eighty's just know hundreds of English people were losing their jobs and a Welshman was getting big money for doing so

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Před 4 lety +1

      @@tomk.williams1186 Not as an independent country, though.

    • @Tlevids
      @Tlevids Před 3 lety

      Yeah but even after Wales fell to the English crown they kept fighting, either in rebellions (Madog ap Llywelyn, Llywelyn Bren, Owaim Glyndwr) or in dynastic conflicts in England such as the Wars of the Roses. Henry Tudor's army at the Battle of Bosworth Field was dominated by Welshmen with an axe to grind and with the desire to insert a Welsh dynasty on the throne of England - Richard III is believed to have been slain by the Welsh.

  • @MT-ic7ub
    @MT-ic7ub Před 4 lety +9

    Massively appreciate this look into our otherwise overlooked history, Diolch yn fawr.

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch Před 4 lety +56

    Who Will Win!
    A heavily armoured and armed elite army.
    Or
    Some Farmers with bendy sticks and string.

    • @santiagomachado7378
      @santiagomachado7378 Před 4 lety +24

      The finest cavalry of its day
      *OR*
      Some stringy bois

    • @bestestusername
      @bestestusername Před 4 lety +6

      Haha always the peasant with the most to loose will be the winner, he looses he dies, a knight looses he gets ransomed

    • @RenegadeVile
      @RenegadeVile Před 4 lety +3

      The former would win had they had a competent commander who knew that getting rained on by pointy sticks hurts...

    • @issacmoore1561
      @issacmoore1561 Před 4 lety +2

      "Some farmers with bendy sticks and string"
      *remembers Vietnam*

  • @beng1767
    @beng1767 Před 4 lety +5

    Very impressed with your Welsh pronunciations!

  • @ThelostGamer27
    @ThelostGamer27 Před 4 lety +7

    Yo you actually did a decent job at the pronunciations glad to see some people actually checking before making a video on this type of stuff lol

  • @aksmex2576
    @aksmex2576 Před 4 lety +29

    Normans: we gonna camp this hill
    Welsh: well we got bows

    • @samwood1799
      @samwood1799 Před 4 lety +2

      Anglo-Saxons: *Attempts to invade Wales*
      Welsh: *Waiting in ambush with bows*
      Anglo-Saxons: The trees are speaking Welsh!
      Welsh: *Decimates the Anglo-Saxon force without a spear being thrown*

  • @alaeus2310
    @alaeus2310 Před 3 lety +4

    Who would win:
    The medieval Knight, one of if not the most fearsome soldier of its age, with incredible shock power and able to route forces much bigger than theirs
    OR
    One pointy boi

  • @StoneMason103
    @StoneMason103 Před 4 lety +3

    Every time I hear this beautiful man start telling me about an ad I’m pleased because it means he’s getting a cheque

  • @yukiisenpai5424
    @yukiisenpai5424 Před 4 lety +68

    They have the high ground the Normans gonna win

    • @placeholder8768
      @placeholder8768 Před 4 lety +5

      Yukii Senpai ok weeb

    • @skeptic781
      @skeptic781 Před 4 lety +2

      @@The_Gerry_Man up the uvf

    • @jevinliu4658
      @jevinliu4658 Před 4 lety +3

      The Normans haven't heard of horse archers.
      Horse archers: *runs in circles*
      Well, the Welsh were not horse archers, but same idea.

    • @yukiisenpai5424
      @yukiisenpai5424 Před 4 lety +1

      @@conall1916 That is epic....

    • @lionelhutz5137
      @lionelhutz5137 Před 4 lety

      notice me senpai

  • @tabinekoman
    @tabinekoman Před 4 lety +6

    Norman : it is over, I have a higher ground!
    Welsh : We have the bow

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Před 4 lety +5

    I love a good underdog story and the Welsh were the ultimate underdogs.

  • @g.zoltan
    @g.zoltan Před 4 lety +3

    No ad in the beginning, earns an instant like

  • @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
    @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Před rokem +1

    4:00 In Canada I'm beginning to get the idea: Welsh trade unionists, English lawyers, and Scottish managers all come to Canada, bringing 1,000 years of their class fight baggage with them. Explains a lot of my Canadian work experience!!!

  • @kunth1819
    @kunth1819 Před 4 lety +15

    I was really thinking about going to sleep but then the notification came. :-)

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory Před 4 lety +4

    The conquest of Wales is unlike any I ever heard before

  • @Lerussedu22
    @Lerussedu22 Před 4 lety +28

    Frenchman: I fear no man.
    But that thing... *Longbow*
    it scares me.

  • @DutchFurnace
    @DutchFurnace Před 4 lety +63

    "Battle of llwchwr" Go on then voiceoverman, give it a try.

    • @Josh-qx8sq
      @Josh-qx8sq Před 4 lety +1

      ll-wich-wer

    • @ahhaha9883
      @ahhaha9883 Před 4 lety +4

      Josh completely wrong

    • @greentheryno6376
      @greentheryno6376 Před 4 lety

      Sh-vik-vir?
      Not very confident in that answer, but I'm curious as to what it actually is.

    • @ahhaha9883
      @ahhaha9883 Před 4 lety +3

      GreenTheRyno there’s no real way to write how to pronounce ‘ll’ and ‘ch’ phonetically. Best thing you could do is look it up

    • @alganhar1
      @alganhar1 Před 4 lety +5

      @S billings W and Y are Vowels in Welsh. Most people outside Wales appear to be ignorant of the fact that the Welsh alphabe actually *differs* from the English Alphabet, the fact that W and Y are considered vowels and not consonants in Welsh are only two of those differences.... go look it up.

  • @johnabcs1
    @johnabcs1 Před 4 lety +360

    The Welsh Language: Just to have the last middle finger over English

    • @jevinliu4658
      @jevinliu4658 Před 4 lety +25

      Well, the English Language is a middle finger to everyone's "correct" pronunciation thingies. At least Welsh sounds consistent.

    • @benfarrell5332
      @benfarrell5332 Před 4 lety +8

      northern Ireland have their 2nd language, wales have their 2nd language, Scotland has their 2nd language. but they all have English. so i dont really see how its a middle finger

    • @patrioticgamer5878
      @patrioticgamer5878 Před 4 lety +5

      Jevin Liu that’s a bold thing to say for someone who’s name sounds like the sound a spring makes

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. Před 4 lety +17

      @@benfarrell5332 Scotland technically has two native languages besides English: Gaelic (or Scottish Gaelic, to distinguish it from Irish) and Scots, but the second one is closely related to English, and as I understand nowadays most people who speak it actually speak something between proper Scots and standard English, which is considered a dialect of English.
      Edit: same actually goes for Northern Ireland, because there's an Ulster dialect of Scots.

    • @benfarrell5332
      @benfarrell5332 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Artur_M. oh I guess thats pretty interesting

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Před 4 lety +4

    What a happy day! BazBattles makes a video about Welsh history, just when I was thinking about it.
    Edit: This was one of the rare occasions among the videos on this and similar channels, where I didn't know the outcome of the battle at all. Therefore I was on the edge of my seat rooting for the Welsh. :)

    • @stzawadzki
      @stzawadzki Před 4 lety

      My guess is that BazBattles is trying to draw attention with very little known battles by countries that still exists - thus gaining support from many different people around Europe that it's showing little known battles of its histories . Not that I'm complaining, quite opposite - know it doesnt show same battles as different channels :)

  • @bujin1977
    @bujin1977 Před 4 lety +6

    Fascinating stuff. Owain Gwynedd, along with his nephew Rhys (Gwenllian's son) of Deheubarth, Iorwerth Goch ap Maredudd of northern Powys and Owain Cyfeiliog of southern Powys also defeated an invasion into North Wales by King Henry II in 1165 at the Battle of Crogen, near to where Chirk Castle is today.
    Great video, excellent pronunciations. (My only minor OCD gripe is that there is a double-D ("dd") at the end of Gruffydd! ;) Otherwise it's just a hard "d" sound, rather than a "th" sound!)

    • @laamonftiboren4236
      @laamonftiboren4236 Před rokem

      The 'dd' sound was usually spelt with a single 'd' in mediaeval Welsh, so maybe that's what he was going for?

  • @philRminiatures
    @philRminiatures Před 4 lety +5

    Wonderful maps and animations once again...Excellent!

  • @neofd3223
    @neofd3223 Před 3 lety +2

    Love this video, we’ll researched! I’ve been looking for videos on this battle as it’s incredible, and now I have one, a good one too.

  • @victorbruant389
    @victorbruant389 Před 4 lety +38

    STOP THIS MADNESS, IN THE NAME OF YOUR KING!

    • @joseph891
      @joseph891 Před 4 lety +15

      Oh there is no more wine?
      Well then....
      BRING MOOOOOOORE.

    • @victorbruant389
      @victorbruant389 Před 4 lety +13

      @@joseph891 The waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar is pregnant!

  • @explosivereactionstv7414
    @explosivereactionstv7414 Před 4 lety +61

    Me when i saw that name: I’m not going to bother to pronounce that

  • @gregb6469
    @gregb6469 Před 4 lety +1

    A good example of victory through superior firepower.

  • @XaiaHey
    @XaiaHey Před 4 lety +2

    The welsh chose a sniper class

    • @XaiaHey
      @XaiaHey Před 4 lety +1

      (Cymru an byth)

  • @kunth1819
    @kunth1819 Před 4 lety +3

    BazBattles video = better day

  • @Judicial78
    @Judicial78 Před 4 lety +7

    I dont know why this is such a radical battlefield tactic, I literally do this every time to the AI in total war and they always fall for it :D

  • @laylobinson5839
    @laylobinson5839 Před 4 lety +2

    Aaah how it puts a smile on my face everytime i see a uploadfrom a awesome history channel.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @zoetropo1
    @zoetropo1 Před 4 lety +1

    Well done, Cymru!

  • @MrWolf-kd8yh
    @MrWolf-kd8yh Před 4 lety +4

    I'm new to the channel and I absolutely love this kind of content!
    Liked and subscribed!

  • @andraslibal
    @andraslibal Před 4 lety +12

    Flemish settlers and mercenaries in Wales. This is interesting.

    • @Castiwr
      @Castiwr Před 4 lety +7

      There's a town in Pembrokeshire actually calo3d 'Flemingston', indicating the extent of Flemish settlement in that area. In addition to being handy mercenaries they also skilled wool workers and were trusted by the Anglo-Normans to not rebel like the Welsh.

    • @samwood1799
      @samwood1799 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Castiwr Indeed, the invasion of Wales is evidence that migration can and is used as a weapon against the native population. There was also Irish settlers and in the 13th-15th centuries English displaced and replaced the native peasantry in some areas to stop rebellion (which didn't work as fighting in Wales continued until Henry Tudor became king in 1485) They also had Owain Lawgoch (Owain the Redhand) assassinated as its believed he was raising an army in Castile to re-take Wales.

  • @mfhex1398
    @mfhex1398 Před 4 lety

    man, the buildup up until around 7:10 is so well done mate, great job! hype

  • @hobog
    @hobog Před 4 lety +12

    longbows, prequel battles before Crecy and Agincourt
    Welsh spelling seems to be more consistent than English spelling

    • @mhmhmmhh4550
      @mhmhmmhh4550 Před 4 lety +1

      We don't have things like There, their and they're. We have our tricky bits but we spell the same way we speak and we don't have stupid silent Ks like Knight or knife

    • @Tomwithnonumbers
      @Tomwithnonumbers Před 4 lety +1

      It is more consistent but its use of the alphabet is unusual which throws people off. W, Y represent vowel sounds, and dd, ch, ng, ll and ff represent sounds not commonly used in English

  • @Freakazoid3568
    @Freakazoid3568 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm so happy they've made on about wales

  • @richardsmith2825
    @richardsmith2825 Před 4 lety +3

    The Romano British resistance against the odds against both Saxon and Norman was ridiculously heroic, silenced from most history books. The Normans made a fatal mistake executing Gwenllian. Her tiny army fought magnificently and she fought to the last. Killing her drove the Welsh mad. They were still shouting "Ddail Achos Gwenllian!"" in the Owain Glyndwr revolt 264 years later!
    I've driven past Crug Mawr hill so many times on the way to Cardigan. What isn't mentioned is that the Flemish mercenaries were the best foot soldiers the Normans had. They were cut to pieces in thirty minutes. How many know or even care these days? What a win but they couldn't stop the tide from the east, even with the best bowmen in the world.

  • @owenmorgan4649
    @owenmorgan4649 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you!!!!!

  • @peathyyy
    @peathyyy Před 4 lety +1

    Always love it when Wales does something, shame this never came up in my recommended.

  • @matrix3509
    @matrix3509 Před 4 lety +15

    Don't mind me, I'm just here to hear the Welsh names.

  • @jonweik4091
    @jonweik4091 Před 4 lety +3

    Always love your videos , as always a BTS would be interesting to see

  • @jabloko992
    @jabloko992 Před 4 lety

    Thank you Baz Battles for leaving the sponsor to the end. Your videos are so much more pure and enjoyable without me having to skip the first minute.

  • @ianashworth5953
    @ianashworth5953 Před 4 lety +1

    Great to hear proper pronunciation of Welsh names - thank you

  • @LathaMate1
    @LathaMate1 Před 4 lety +7

    The Welsh today are some of the friendliest people you will ever meet

    • @danboud8135
      @danboud8135 Před 4 lety +4

      Can confirm. Amazing people

    • @sidgriffith1592
      @sidgriffith1592 Před 4 lety

      I'm planning to come visit from America in early 2020. My family originated in Anglesey. I'm looking forward to it!

    • @Aussie.Owlcoholic
      @Aussie.Owlcoholic Před 4 lety

      @@sidgriffith1592 Nice! I'm from Anglesey myself, Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch to be precise :)
      Living in Australia now but go back to visit at every chance I get. Learn a couple Welsh phrases before you go and the locals will accept you with open arms haha

    • @sidgriffith1592
      @sidgriffith1592 Před 4 lety

      @@Aussie.Owlcoholic I will try my best. :) My ancestor came from Llangadwaladr.

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 Před 4 lety +3

    Always love your guys work 👍

  • @paulhiggins8774
    @paulhiggins8774 Před rokem +2

    Brilliant part of Welsh history sadly not taught in Welsh schools

  • @blaccbeard
    @blaccbeard Před 4 lety +2

    And then Longshanks came in and cleaned house in Wales, took their own title Prince of Wales and gave it to his son just cause.

    • @agt155
      @agt155 Před 4 lety

      Then Henry VII turned up killed your viking king and stamped 'British' on your passport.

    • @Kitsylove28
      @Kitsylove28 Před 4 lety +1

      I know the Anglo-Normans & their brethern the Jews came in & the Winsors are still pouncing around with the title of a man they've no link to.

  • @Joker-yw9hl
    @Joker-yw9hl Před 4 lety +3

    This is awesome. As someone born in England but raised in Wales with mostly Irish, Welsh and Serbian blood, I can't help but hype hard here. I wonder if my ancestors fought against these Normans

    • @hamarbiljungskile8953
      @hamarbiljungskile8953 Před 4 lety

      Irish, Welsh and Serbian... damn, that's a weird combo, must be a nice conversation starter. You speak any Serbian?

    • @Joker-yw9hl
      @Joker-yw9hl Před 4 lety

      @@hamarbiljungskile8953 haha yeah i'm basically half Irish, a quarter Welsh and quarter Serb. I have learnt only simple phrases in Serbian like goodbye etc but it would be nice to speak it one day

    • @hamarbiljungskile8953
      @hamarbiljungskile8953 Před 4 lety +1

      ​@@Joker-yw9hl Hey, if you ever need someone to help you out with that, hit me up. I'm always happy to help out a countryman, or quarter-countryman for that matter..
      I mean, I have no idea who you are, but you obviously watch BazBattles, so you can't be that bad of a person.

  • @4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz

    Various prominent CZcams historians could take some lessons from this man on the importance of pronouncing names correctly. It's probably one of the easiest, quickest ways there is to lend credibility to your presentation. It's amazing how much work some of these guys will put into their vids, and then when it comes to actually saying the names of the people they're talking about, they're suddenly "Oh, whatever, it is what it is!" It's not only sloppy, it shows a fundamental lack of respect.
    It takes literally 30 seconds with an online resource to learn the correct pronounciation of a name or word. Many online dictionaries and encyclopedias will even sound out the word for you.
    Props.

  • @JasonQog
    @JasonQog Před 4 lety

    Thank you so much for your channel, that's all I wanted to say, please keep up the good work. As always a thumbs up.

  • @thehistorybard6333
    @thehistorybard6333 Před 4 lety

    Awesome video, this is a really fascinating period of history I didn't really know anything about. Thanks guys!!

  • @heroziolkowskimendoza9800
    @heroziolkowskimendoza9800 Před 4 lety +24

    When you face an enemy who just upgraded its bow.