Best Assault Rifle in Warzone! (M4A1 vs Grau 5.56)

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  • čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
  • The M4A1 and the Grau 5.56 have risen to the top of the assault rifle meta within Warzone so today I wanted to put them side by side and break down their stats to find out which one is best! Which of these assault rifles do you think is best in Warzone?
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  • @COLONALAJ
    @COLONALAJ Před 4 lety +949

    Ace: “I don’t feel confident pushing a building with the Grau.” Also Ace: *Shows clip clearing a building with the Grau*

    • @stevenshatswell53
      @stevenshatswell53 Před 4 lety +31

      He didn't clear the building with it though. He got a kill with his MP5, then swapped to the Grau bc he emptied his MP5.

    • @tentoricalj-dog1761
      @tentoricalj-dog1761 Před 4 lety +10

      I actually like the grau better at medium close. I put a no stock and it’s got fast ADS and not much recoil and the only gunfights close that I lose to is the Ram 7 and mp7 which I don’t see that many people use the mp7 as much as people using the M4A1 I use it with the HDR and can pick people off at long ranges and beat people at Medium Close ranges with the Grau.

    • @ImMunchie
      @ImMunchie Před 4 lety +4

      That why the grau mp5 combo the best in wz

    • @dingodangles
      @dingodangles Před 4 lety +3

      Do a ram7 vs m4!

    • @coffeemuncher01
      @coffeemuncher01 Před 3 lety

      He could clear a building with a tooth pick and a tampon

  • @arron-
    @arron- Před 4 lety +480

    I’m honestly sick of hearing suppressed Grau’s now

    • @JonasJ90
      @JonasJ90 Před 4 lety +42

      They should have balance patches to change the meta more often, but probably never will bother. Shotguns have been useless for months. The potential for this game is sky high, but they limit themselves.

    • @jadonplox
      @jadonplox Před 4 lety +71

      @@JonasJ90 imagine wanting shotguns to be good

    • @arron-
      @arron- Před 4 lety +15

      Jonas Johannessen exactly. Shotguns are useless out of 15 m

    • @JonasJ90
      @JonasJ90 Před 4 lety +23

      @@arron- Useless out of 1 m

    • @bmkorean1
      @bmkorean1 Před 4 lety +21

      jadonplox shotguns take more positional skill and game knowledge than AR’s and smgs. Fight me

  • @yappanesee
    @yappanesee Před 4 lety +435

    Is it me, or do i feel like the Grau is too stable and doesnt have the “kick” that the M4 has?
    UPDATE: I have started to use the Grau and I love it more than the M4

    • @kingmuzzy
      @kingmuzzy Před 4 lety +9

      Yoooo this is me definitely. I hit less shots because it feels too stiff like an RPG or some shit can't change the aim

    • @ilhamrozaidi5369
      @ilhamrozaidi5369 Před 4 lety +2

      Depends on ur attachments

    • @braydentumber6168
      @braydentumber6168 Před 4 lety +1

      Feels like air soft gun

    • @self-madejacobo8281
      @self-madejacobo8281 Před 4 lety +16

      Isn’t that good though so you accurate ?

    • @bananasfn2544
      @bananasfn2544 Před 4 lety

      You need better recoil control

  • @zacharycarroll9963
    @zacharycarroll9963 Před 4 lety +312

    I would love to see MP7 vs MP5, at leastthe warzone comparison!

    • @CRYPTIX561
      @CRYPTIX561 Před 4 lety +21

      MP7 >>

    • @cappzap
      @cappzap Před 4 lety +22

      mp5 is better for close range. mp7 is better for mid-long range. there. that is your comparison

    • @mario1515
      @mario1515 Před 4 lety +6

      @@cappzap "mp7 for longer distances" think youve got your names mixed up bud

    • @dogboy0912
      @dogboy0912 Před 4 lety +2

      the mp7 is better at shooting pixels. If you put the longest barrel on and the muzzle brake (yes the muzzle brake) it has the most benign recoil possible. The reason for the muzzle brake over the comp is that the comp doesn't eliminate side to side "randomness" to the recoil. With the muzzle brake + barrel combo it's a completely consistent line that curves right slightly.

    • @cappzap
      @cappzap Před 4 lety

      @@mario1515 um, what?

  • @adarshp.daniel3758
    @adarshp.daniel3758 Před 4 lety +577

    SMG comparison would be cool, between MP5 and MP7.

    • @m4TT5
      @m4TT5 Před 4 lety +10

      and the AUG

    • @TheHellblzr
      @TheHellblzr Před 4 lety +51

      MP5 wins over all the smgs

    • @lone2night337
      @lone2night337 Před 4 lety +15

      Aditya Pratap no mp7

    • @DetroitsReaper
      @DetroitsReaper Před 4 lety +7

      Depends if you want range mp7 but upclose mp5 is undefeated

    • @Danxiong
      @Danxiong Před 4 lety +5

      It’s pretty much like comparing the M4 and M13.
      One has more damage and range but the other has a higher rof and less recoil.
      I prefer the MP5 since I like the faster ttk and I’m using it more like an SMG, where as the MP7 is more versatile since it can be use at longer ranges due to the low recoil.

  • @originalname3358
    @originalname3358 Před 4 lety +2337

    who else wants more v.s series

    • @finno3448
      @finno3448 Před 4 lety +29

      Original name mp7 vs mp4

    • @finno3448
      @finno3448 Před 4 lety +18

      Mp5*

    • @paranoidbutnotanandroid3753
      @paranoidbutnotanandroid3753 Před 4 lety +78

      Well, depends on the point of view. The MP7 has great fire rate, range, but the MP4 surely will have a better musical and video quality

    • @originalname3358
      @originalname3358 Před 4 lety +10

      _Rainbow Phantom lmao

    • @brendanphillips8448
      @brendanphillips8448 Před 4 lety +5

      @@paranoidbutnotanandroid3753 hahaha I love you for this comment. Not to mention mp4 is probly more widely used than mov files another pro

  • @willbeasley7410
    @willbeasley7410 Před 4 lety +76

    Haven’t started the video and I’m really hoping he doesn’t say. “Pick which ever one you think suits you”

    • @yamini7937
      @yamini7937 Před 4 lety +6

      he did

    • @ifai9al817
      @ifai9al817 Před 4 lety

      Dude it's clear, use the Grau

    • @Ryan-sc3zf
      @Ryan-sc3zf Před 4 lety

      Faisal M exactly just use the one that app the streamers use

  • @4231jerome
    @4231jerome Před 4 lety +172

    I’ve read a ton of comments from people claiming that the best AR is this, and the best SMG is that . . And they’re talking about quite a few different guns.
    Made me realise something. Infinity Ward did a pretty damn good job at balancing the weapons. There is no clear and obvious OP weapon in either the AR or SMG categories.

    • @Goofy_The_Scot
      @Goofy_The_Scot Před 4 lety +8

      Have to agree, there's a number of viable weapons in the game!

    • @HouseMD01994
      @HouseMD01994 Před 4 lety +43

      it isnt Balanced If 90% of the players use m4,grau :=(

    • @4231jerome
      @4231jerome Před 4 lety +7

      HouseMD01994 is that an actual statistic that you’re quoting from somewhere? Or is it a way of saying ‘most people I see use the m4/grau’ ? . .
      There are a ton of vocal supporters of the m13, (just have a look at some of the comment threads for this video) and quite a few people swear by the ram-7 or the 100 round kilo.

    • @anonymous134y
      @anonymous134y Před 4 lety +11

      @@HouseMD01994 but the m13 and kilo are viable AR options

    • @NexusBladeGaming
      @NexusBladeGaming Před 4 lety +9

      HouseMD01994 Weapon balance and player choice are not synonymous, even if 90% used them, it wouldn't mean they're imbalanced.

  • @zevo9314
    @zevo9314 Před 4 lety +199

    i was ride or die for the M4 when i started playing, because it is my favorite gun irl, but after grinding out all the gold AR's and getting to try them out with all the proper attachments, i perform the best with the Grau because of the recoil pattern and the much nicer iron sight, plus i tend to prefer to have medium range fights so the further damage profile is nice

    • @whatNtarnation90
      @whatNtarnation90 Před 4 lety +4

      Pretty much all good players use the Grau. I run the biggest good player only discord server and basically everyone uses it.

    • @myman163
      @myman163 Před 4 lety +12

      I love the archangel sights except sometimes I fr cant see the middle one cause it's so thin

    • @myman163
      @myman163 Před 4 lety +3

      @Shakeel Ahmed honestly I feel like the archangel grau has the cleanest iron sights and for me personally that makes or breaks a gun 😂

    • @hackmunch3949
      @hackmunch3949 Před 4 lety

      @@myman163 agree thats why i switched to the nexus

    • @AngryGooseChieftain
      @AngryGooseChieftain Před 4 lety

      I was the opposite. I started with the Grau (btw nexus is way better imo) but then switched to M4. It's literally all just preference

  • @TheRockRocknRoll
    @TheRockRocknRoll Před 4 lety +18

    yes finally! thank you! it took months till someone finally realized that stats and patterns for complete weapons make sense^^

  • @MegaDAli95
    @MegaDAli95 Před 4 lety +54

    The fact that every assault rifle is compared to the M4A1 is enough reason to believe that it's the best in the game, even after several nerfs

    • @brookgames1283
      @brookgames1283 Před 4 lety

      Wrong

    • @MegaDAli95
      @MegaDAli95 Před 4 lety +1

      BROOK games ...

    • @ethanbell5508
      @ethanbell5508 Před 4 lety +7

      BROOK games how is he wrong? M4 is the best gun in the game period. It’s the best gun in multiplayer easily as the grau isn’t actually that good in mp because the time to kill isn’t great it’s a lot better in warzone where range matters more than time to kill. The only reason to use the grau is in warzone but yet even then if you Acc have skill you can run the m4 at long ranges and win or the ram7 and beat the grau. The grau and the kilo and the most casual player friendly guns in the game they take no skill to control.

    • @fearlessdistinguish4186
      @fearlessdistinguish4186 Před 4 lety +3

      @@ethanbell5508 thank you. I am tired of people complaining about recoil. Like it is cod there is barely any recoil. It could also be that i come from csgo and siege but still. recoil standards in that game are way different but it is not that hard to control recoil.

    • @luke_vk
      @luke_vk Před 4 lety +2

      M4 is 🔥

  • @DreadMEx_Xlokk
    @DreadMEx_Xlokk Před 4 lety +9

    Thank you... You have literally been one of my gaming guiders since cod ww2. You never steered me wrong man.

  • @iambs11
    @iambs11 Před 4 lety +78

    the fact you do this with guns in a video game still blows my mind. much respect for doing it! you do an unbelievable job

  • @mattspyro
    @mattspyro Před 4 lety +171

    The archangel sight is so beautiful

    • @supasf
      @supasf Před 4 lety +2

      Nahhh

    • @alexg1785.
      @alexg1785. Před 4 lety +6

      Matt nexus

    • @ZakDinero
      @ZakDinero Před 4 lety +4

      My best sight in the game hands down

    • @thelolicon5071
      @thelolicon5071 Před 4 lety +2

      The nexus is better tho. It doesnt decrease your aim down sight speed as much and theres only a 5% difference in range

    • @cappzap
      @cappzap Před 4 lety +4

      i genuinely prefer it over an optic, it might be the nicest iron sight of any gun in any fps i've played

  • @MrLWGreen
    @MrLWGreen Před 4 lety +317

    Me watching this as if the ms is gonna make a difference to me when I can barely get 3 kills 😂

    • @simoventu4939
      @simoventu4939 Před 4 lety +9

      We feel you brother

    • @richardakasunny5977
      @richardakasunny5977 Před 4 lety +18

      I wish I played against you guys

    • @jakobvaden7106
      @jakobvaden7106 Před 4 lety +15

      @@richardakasunny5977 fuckin same. I get a few people who arent the best but most are highly coordinated squads who drop shot and sweat their asses off lol

    • @simoventu4939
      @simoventu4939 Před 4 lety +6

      @@richardakasunny5977 you could be one of three kills watch out

    • @supes636
      @supes636 Před 4 lety

      I got my first 20 kills yesterday cause of the m4a1

  • @zerokool-2058
    @zerokool-2058 Před 4 lety +25

    The movement speed is definitely noticeable on the Grau...

  • @manuelvaldez4668
    @manuelvaldez4668 Před 4 lety +308

    can you do one with the m4a1 versus the ram7?

    • @m4g153
      @m4g153 Před 4 lety +22

      I see why u want this but honestly they are too different as they are used for completely different situations. The ram will destroy in ttk, dps and damage ranges but the m4a1 will thrive in the overall usage of the gun, recoil and accuracy

    • @Danxiong
      @Danxiong Před 4 lety

      brosif29 ram has a faster ttk but more recoil.

    • @deadstar962
      @deadstar962 Před 4 lety

      Wtf u doing on warzone

    • @yoshiejman
      @yoshiejman Před 4 lety

      Yes please! Do it!

    • @Danxiong
      @Danxiong Před 4 lety +1

      brosif29 I mean no matter wat attachments u put on it’s still gonna have higher recoils than the meta ARs. Those other ARs have attachments to reduce the recoil also.

  • @shawnschaffer5320
    @shawnschaffer5320 Před 4 lety +81

    Hey Ace! Awesome video.
    I’d be curious to see how the M13 and Kilo stack up to these two weapons. That would be an interesting comparison overall.
    As for a recommendation I think a high damage rifle comparison could be very beneficial. I’d love to see an Oden/AK/Scar comparison video!

    • @mckookie2967
      @mckookie2967 Před 4 lety +7

      Scar is probably the worst AR

    • @seeker_of_knowlage3568
      @seeker_of_knowlage3568 Před 4 lety +1

      oden/Ak/Scar loses for m4 and Grau in mid to long ranges and loses in TTk with SMGs in close fights.

    • @simpleton9218
      @simpleton9218 Před 4 lety

      SA87 beats scar and maybe ak. That lmg is a unit

    • @mckookie2967
      @mckookie2967 Před 4 lety +1

      @@simpleton9218 AK with compensator is pretty damn good too, helps a lot with the kick

    • @plague6716
      @plague6716 Před 4 lety

      Scar doesn't have high damage. Its one of the lowest dpses in the AR category

  • @Nernage
    @Nernage Před 4 lety +11

    9:51 Ace is a true gamer, you can tell because he moves to the side in real life while being shot in game lol.

    • @grave1234
      @grave1234 Před 4 lety

      Everyone does that m8

    • @Nernage
      @Nernage Před 4 lety

      @@grave1234 Nah man only true gamers do that. If you do that, well then you my friend are a true gamer.

    • @JW0121
      @JW0121 Před 4 lety

      Completely false because of Offset doing this aswell loool

  • @93SupaFly
    @93SupaFly Před 4 lety +66

    Both dead when stumbled to Akimbos and RPGs boys on the corridors though. xD

    • @moistygg
      @moistygg Před 4 lety +5

      Dont worry atleast akimbos are nerfed to the max

    • @93SupaFly
      @93SupaFly Před 4 lety

      @@moistygg thats why im dissapointed cause im using akimbo renetti burst :(

    • @skepticpunk_
      @skepticpunk_ Před 4 lety

      @@93SupaFly Akimbo Renetti is still pretty solid, as is the burst on the single Renetti. They just nerfed the combo into the ground.

    • @93SupaFly
      @93SupaFly Před 4 lety

      @@footballdude1029 not anymore..
      right now Im running FAL and Bizon with my team full of ODENS and mp5. we raped alot M4s and Graus from far range lol. I think its still viable the akimbo renetti. But i can say now alot MP5 users starting to emerge.
      If you use the Burst Renetti without Akimbo perk also works kinda well.

    • @finlay888
      @finlay888 Před 4 lety

      Dont use rpg it just means u have no skill

  • @BSJINTHEHOUSE420
    @BSJINTHEHOUSE420 Před 4 lety +291

    Grau in multiplayer: I’m too weak.
    Grau in Warzone: Unlimited Power!

    • @ducebigga9618
      @ducebigga9618 Před 4 lety +4

      Seriously even on HC

    • @aj2i18jx
      @aj2i18jx Před 4 lety +61

      Lmao what, Grau is meta in core MP. It sucks on HC though

    • @Joker-pz6nr
      @Joker-pz6nr Před 4 lety +25

      Nah man Grau is been a beast in multiplayer on less they have nerfed without us knowing again... Dropped my first two nukes in this game with the Grau.

    • @Joker-pz6nr
      @Joker-pz6nr Před 4 lety +1

      @@mayhulk7514 don't forget attachments as well. My class setup represents m4/mp5 class. The competitive classes.

    • @Alex-jz5yw
      @Alex-jz5yw Před 4 lety +5

      Wait really people think that? Grau with mono in larger maps melts people

  • @alli9541
    @alli9541 Před 4 lety +120

    I would like to see a MP7 vs MP5 or the Kilo vs Grau

    • @HelpmereachsubscribersWi-mp4ou
      @HelpmereachsubscribersWi-mp4ou Před 4 lety +13

      Kilo 141 is severely underrated in Warzone

    • @wizard932
      @wizard932 Před 4 lety

      Mp7 has more range (with long barrel) and less recoil and 60 mag w faster fire rate but less damage per round. Mp5 has no long barrel and a lot of recoil but is controllable up close (bad at midrange) and only 45 clip

    • @ryana7457
      @ryana7457 Před 4 lety

      I agree kilo is super underrated. I only used the kilo once warzone was released. However I have moved to the grau because of the no recoil with it. And I love it but I miss the kilo.

    • @Darkstar5811
      @Darkstar5811 Před 4 lety

      @@HelpmereachsubscribersWi-mp4ou agreed especially with that 100 mag, you just spray when others are reloading.

    • @phvaguiar
      @phvaguiar Před 4 lety +1

      The iron sight on the kilo is not as good

  • @shaun8k407
    @shaun8k407 Před 4 lety

    I love how he’s so in depth and not lazy like other you tubers. Keep it up ace

  • @Kaiserland111
    @Kaiserland111 Před 4 lety +1

    Fantastic video! Most people focus on TTK and that is FAR from the only important stat to consider. You took a holistic approach and covered many different setups, then clearly presented their strengths and weaknesses.

  • @phil2877
    @phil2877 Před 4 lety +4

    Love the Grau now. Took me a while to find the right setup, but feels great now. Such a good weapon to mount with as well.

    • @coreyryan9703
      @coreyryan9703 Před 3 lety

      Nice what is your attachment set up if you don’t mind me asking . I’m tying something new I figure I’ll give the Grau a shot . Usually use either mp5 or kilo . I’m a fan of range fire rate and damage .

  • @nateacosta1939
    @nateacosta1939 Před 4 lety +11

    @TheExclusiveAce would love to see a breakdown on lethal/tactical equipment for WZ/Plunder. We've already seen how powerful C4s and heartbeat sensors are but we don't have a whole lot of info on how effective other equipment is. Anyways, thanks for the great content, you the man Ace❤️

  • @squilla8956
    @squilla8956 Před 4 lety

    Great video man. You did the homework for me and I appreciate that. Keep em comin! 🤘🏽

  • @jasonkurth7473
    @jasonkurth7473 Před 4 lety

    This is your most useful video yet! Especially since you tried a comparison between the two with a common attachment setup. Please make more! Maybe MP7vsMP5 and GrauvsM13

  • @thegamingnerd4
    @thegamingnerd4 Před 4 lety +110

    I still prefer the M13. Interesting video, though.

    • @lunchpin403
      @lunchpin403 Před 4 lety +1

      How are you setting up your m13?

    • @MrCoaxials
      @MrCoaxials Před 4 lety +23

      David Cox best m13 I’ve constructed: Longest Barrel, Mono Suppressor, recoil control underbarrel of choice, optic of choice, 60 round magazine. It’s like a laser beam.

    • @zyanjojola
      @zyanjojola Před 4 lety +7

      TheGamingNerd 4 yeah I think the m13 is better than the m4 in warzone. The fire rate is insane and with the marksman barrel it’s pretty much a laser

    • @lunchpin403
      @lunchpin403 Před 4 lety +7

      @@MrCoaxials nice, I've been running almost the same but with the integral suppressor and stippled grip tape because I love fast ADS speed. In solos I swap out the extended mag for the .300 blackout rounds; I feel like you don't need the extra rounds when you're only engaging one enemy at a time, plus the damage and range boost is nice

    • @brendanphillips8448
      @brendanphillips8448 Před 4 lety +2

      M13 used to be my gun of choice but lately the Grau has won me over bc it's slightly better close range imo and the recoil feels more manageable. That being said, even the Grau doesn't laser at far ranges as good as the m13

  • @aranramakrishnan5471
    @aranramakrishnan5471 Před 4 lety +16

    The ram 7 is an extreme version of the M4 you should try it for a few games if you like the M4

    • @ttveidanma7016
      @ttveidanma7016 Před 4 lety +3

      Thats what im saying, it has a better TTK and DPS than the M4 and the Grau

    • @honcho4329
      @honcho4329 Před 4 lety +1

      The gun looks akward so no thanks

    • @aranramakrishnan5471
      @aranramakrishnan5471 Před 4 lety

      @@honcho4329 Whatever floats ur boat... but try it at the very least...

  • @CRYPTIX561
    @CRYPTIX561 Před 4 lety

    Excellent video. I pretty much did the same comparisons with the raw data given by yourself and other online sources to determine weapons builds and such.

  • @mq9047
    @mq9047 Před 4 lety

    Love your weapon stat breakdowns. Crazy informative. Please do MP5 vs MP7!!

  • @666Jakemetal
    @666Jakemetal Před 4 lety +6

    I love to run the grau and I try to run it with an smg so when I'm in a building or cqb situation I can use the smg then anything mid to long range I rock the grau

  • @stealthknife9158
    @stealthknife9158 Před 4 lety +22

    I like how this game is making the guns really balanced. With no clear winners this diversifies what you'll come across and tactics you can use in game.

    • @angelromox97
      @angelromox97 Před 4 lety +5

      Not really. All you can see in regular matches are M4s and MP5s

    • @HellsHound013
      @HellsHound013 Před 4 lety +3

      Forgot the MP7 Angel that fucker is everywhere

    • @Danxiong
      @Danxiong Před 4 lety

      Angel Romo yea it’s pretty clear the 2 best guns are the M4 and MP5. Both have very good ttk and very manageable recoil.

    • @mightymochi6320
      @mightymochi6320 Před 4 lety

      Angel Romo No i see other guns in my matches as well.

    • @Danxiong
      @Danxiong Před 4 lety

      trey wills it use to be everywhere until people finally realize the MP5 is better. Yea MP7 has a low recoil but it becomes a marshmallow shooter at long range.

  • @sunnyd5944
    @sunnyd5944 Před 4 lety

    Been waiting for this. Thank you

  • @officermofiz4600
    @officermofiz4600 Před 4 lety

    WOW! Finally an in depth analysis of MW weapons without 4 mins initial bullshit! Straight to the point!
    Kudos amigo!!!

  • @hungry8087
    @hungry8087 Před 4 lety +5

    Kick and distance makes me love the grau more when im not running a sniper

  • @paulista3075
    @paulista3075 Před 4 lety +118

    M13 VS RAM-7 in the next versus video

    • @ryancox3834
      @ryancox3834 Před 4 lety +17

      Why don't we do 725 v HDR while we're at it

    • @apraetorian9986
      @apraetorian9986 Před 4 lety

      Yes

    • @jbitt1617
      @jbitt1617 Před 4 lety +3

      Love the ram in multiplayer but the recoil is a little too inconsistent for the long range gunfights in warzone imo

    • @Shiokkou
      @Shiokkou Před 4 lety +2

      @@jbitt1617 get the last barrel with commando foregrip and everyone on your sights is long gone. Fastest ttk than the m4. The recoil pattern is manageable if you're willing to learn the pattern, it's not really bad. In fact, I ditched the m4 and m13 for the ram-7 never am I going back lmao.

    • @MrDizzorr
      @MrDizzorr Před 4 lety

      Need this videoo!!

  • @TheJustina102085
    @TheJustina102085 Před 4 lety

    Well thats good, just sums up exactly how I feel about those two guns.. thanks for the video!

  • @Drummercommander
    @Drummercommander Před 4 lety

    I love these "versus" videos! Please cover some SMG's next

  • @marquisbois990
    @marquisbois990 Před 4 lety +105

    I know the stats don’t back it up, but I only do well when using a Kilo....

    • @Danxiong
      @Danxiong Před 4 lety +38

      JD Worx Stats do back it up. The Kilo is the middle brother of the M4 and Grau.
      Longer range than the M4 and higher damage than the Grau but movement speed and strafe speed are slower than both.

    • @ducebigga9618
      @ducebigga9618 Před 4 lety +2

      See same but mine is the score but only on trios that shit is strong

    • @ardayazar5705
      @ardayazar5705 Před 4 lety +10

      Kilo after 7th shot or so becomes completely laser beam with no recoil whatsoever, if you are missing first couple shots anyway that might be why.

    • @freerider8737
      @freerider8737 Před 4 lety +3

      use the m13

    • @dopamine-87
      @dopamine-87 Před 4 lety +7

      Kilo is straight fire bro! So many ppl sleepin on it!

  • @lfnotmethenwho
    @lfnotmethenwho Před 4 lety +5

    Mk9 w/ 60 round mag would've been cool to see in this

  • @Floydsframes
    @Floydsframes Před 4 lety

    Great video. It seems like the smg meta has shifted from the MP7 to the MP5; would love to see this VS video!

  • @sciencewizard8805
    @sciencewizard8805 Před 4 lety

    Now I feel like I know how these two guns compare really well. Nice comparison.

  • @Manakuski
    @Manakuski Před 4 lety +40

    Don't sleep on the M13. It's insane. Slap on the Marksman barrel along with monolithic, big mag, stippled grip and either commando foregrip or your favourite sight and you can down people so fast provided you can handle the recoil. Which is really easy on PC.

    • @whatNtarnation90
      @whatNtarnation90 Před 4 lety +2

      Best way to tell someone is a noob is if they recommend attachments. All ARs have a very meta set of attachments, with only a couple being situational depending on your secondary.

    • @ahQtr2006
      @ahQtr2006 Před 4 lety +25

      Hunter W all he did was recommend good attachments lol nothing to do with being a noob

    • @bradleydalton7563
      @bradleydalton7563 Před 4 lety +2

      Tac Laser is where it's at for me but you're right

    • @whatNtarnation90
      @whatNtarnation90 Před 4 lety

      @Bray Aberdeen I barely play wz anymore, half my games are blatant aimbot lobbies.

    • @whatNtarnation90
      @whatNtarnation90 Před 4 lety +1

      @Bray Aberdeen Lol, I went back to League of Legends. It's pretty bad, a lot of people don't think the games infested with cheaters because they don't make it to final circle very often. With a 30% WR, I get there quite often, and it's probably around 30% of the time we die to a blatant aimbot. My last game I played we took cover behind a hill because there was a cheating sniper insta headshotting everyone, only to get flanked by another cheating squad with a 100 round kilo lasering all of us from like 200m away :(

  • @OGnugz
    @OGnugz Před 4 lety +4

    I’d love to see the M13 matchup against the M4 or grau! The M13 is really underrated and it’s a laser!

    • @aloywong658
      @aloywong658 Před 4 lety +1

      I mean it gets outclass by both of them but mobility the m13 outclass both of them

  • @miztruman
    @miztruman Před 4 lety

    Love your vids Ace. Always learn something new. Got a top 2 finish in WZ yesterday in Solos...that's a first.

  • @guac1611
    @guac1611 Před 4 lety

    This video was much needed and you nailed it

  • @MacTac141
    @MacTac141 Před 4 lety +11

    While I prefer the M4 the Iron sights on the Grau are sooo much better!

    • @ducebigga9618
      @ducebigga9618 Před 4 lety +2

      Mack D iron sights are godly on ARs so you don’t need to waste a attachment imo

    • @justsean7548
      @justsean7548 Před 4 lety +3

      Because there are way better accuracy and recoil attachments
      But I would put an optic on the Grau because of its long range

    • @ducebigga9618
      @ducebigga9618 Před 4 lety +3

      And using a monitor I can see very well but on a big tv you’re fucked lol

    • @Addamant16theman
      @Addamant16theman Před 4 lety +1

      Mack D some sights just provide less clutter. Also, the zoom doesn’t help when you get into cqc and that gun happens to be your only automatic weapon. Also some people would rather have an attachment that helps with recoil than waste it on a sight

    • @dunkmaster1564
      @dunkmaster1564 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SilverDragonAcademy You pretty much have to give up a solid optic if you want the Mono. Suppressor/any good foregrip, the longest barrel, ext. mags and speed-increasing mods (typically No Stock, Stippled Grip Tape or 5 mW/Tac Laser) to offset the weight of the barrel, suppressor and mags.

  • @omkarm.k2156
    @omkarm.k2156 Před 4 lety +3

    I was just looking around in youtube for this and voila xclusive back at it again

  • @ethanator8265
    @ethanator8265 Před 4 lety +3

    I wish you had shown the recoil with the compensator, as that has the best recoil control, and that would be pretty useful at longer ranges

    • @n9ck999
      @n9ck999 Před 4 lety +1

      That’s useless cause you should be using a suppressor u BOT

  • @Iezane
    @Iezane Před 4 lety

    Good video, like always. And I think you're getting better at this game. Your gameplay are better also. GG

  • @ViolentSwamiBeats
    @ViolentSwamiBeats Před 4 lety +19

    M4, M13, Grau and RAM all deserve to be against each other

    • @JesseMrozowski
      @JesseMrozowski Před 4 lety +1

      This really needs to be done. I'm curious how the stats all stack up as they are in my opinion the best options for a primary.

    • @ViolentSwamiBeats
      @ViolentSwamiBeats Před 4 lety

      @@JesseMrozowski me too. I also really like the bruen lmg. Absolutely destroys at medium to long range. Suffers a bit at close but I use dual burst for close anyway

    • @moparmadness0180
      @moparmadness0180 Před 4 lety +2

      And the kilo

    • @ViolentSwamiBeats
      @ViolentSwamiBeats Před 4 lety +1

      @@moparmadness0180 I would say so but I feel like it's strange recoil makes it more difficult to use, plus it usually feels heavier. It has left and up recoil (not a tonne) but the left recoil is really off putting for me when taking longer ranged shots

    • @xxac3zn8zxx87
      @xxac3zn8zxx87 Před 4 lety

      for warzone not the ram, gun just isnt reliable enough at long range to compare with the m13 or grau.

  • @doomhardt
    @doomhardt Před 4 lety +4

    Hey Ace! Love the detail in your vids, making it easier to understand what's going on. Btw when are you going to make the shotgun gun guides because I can't see them in your playlist (plz tell me if I'm missing something) and it would be very helpful for me and others who prefer to run Shotguns and an AR or LMG on their class setups so we can dominate close - quarter fights.
    Thx for making these amazing videos!

  • @anderzz41
    @anderzz41 Před 4 lety +2

    Do any "pick my class", loved it on ww2, missed it so much!

  • @dogboy0912
    @dogboy0912 Před 4 lety

    I'm finding the compensator a lot more useful than I used to. I wrote it off because of the recoil guides but it turns out it's really really good on weapons that don't have much upward recoil to begin with or guns where the recoil tends to bounce around your aim. Muzzle brake on the Bruen and pkm for instance make them way more consistent sprayers at mid range.

  • @marvins3319
    @marvins3319 Před 4 lety +11

    Would love to see a vs Video between m13 and Ram7 🤙🏽

  • @zegigante
    @zegigante Před 4 lety +83

    Am I the only one who has difficulty spotting enemies without a sight? I have good eyes. Maybe it's just my screen. But I cant seem to use ARs without sights.

    • @BBCjer
      @BBCjer Před 4 lety +19

      Lighting in this game makes it hard to see, the color palette doesn't help either.

    • @guilhermewanderleyespinola5920
      @guilhermewanderleyespinola5920 Před 4 lety +21

      I believe the visual recoil from the iron sights takes a lot of time to get used to. Also, they kind of conceal the target while you are shooting, making it harder to keep the target on sight while spraying.

    • @raps3617
      @raps3617 Před 4 lety +13

      Its not just you. I feel like it was easier to see people at a distance in older cods

    • @zegigante
      @zegigante Před 4 lety +8

      I play in an 8 year old screen and on a 1y old oled TV. Seen couple of brightness videos. Still have a hard time sighting enemies at +50m. Even when I'm watching videos on CZcams I'm like how the hell does he see him. This last part mostly when they are in shadows.

    • @zegigante
      @zegigante Před 4 lety +2

      Also tried upping the brightness but all becomes washed out

  • @AtephiousCB
    @AtephiousCB Před 4 lety +1

    as much as i initially enjoyed the M4 since switching to the GRAU i havent looked back. i love the recoil, and range, though i do also use a AX50 with it because those long shots tend to give your position away with either gun and a sniper is just a better choice.

  • @romaingltr4246
    @romaingltr4246 Před 4 lety

    Awesome comparison video 👏🏻

  • @Michael-zg4py
    @Michael-zg4py Před 4 lety +12

    You could do a Versus between Mp5 vs Mp7.
    It would be awesome!!

    • @valentinoferraromanasse3081
      @valentinoferraromanasse3081 Před 4 lety +2

      Mp5 to win close
      Mp7 to beam long

    • @johnplayeren
      @johnplayeren Před 4 lety

      @@valentinoferraromanasse3081 And Akimbo Rennettis when it's personal

    • @valentinoferraromanasse3081
      @valentinoferraromanasse3081 Před 4 lety +1

      @@johnplayeren yeah, or simply use the 25 mag shotty or the aug 556 with a short barrel

    • @m4TT5
      @m4TT5 Před 4 lety

      Don’t know why people are hard sleeping on the AUG 556, it beats both of these

    • @RimaSuit
      @RimaSuit Před 4 lety

      @@m4TT5 Pretty sure AUG 556 doesn't beat them anymore since the stealth nerf. Now it takes 1 more shot to kill even if all hits are in the chest and that (If my math checks out) should make it 0,546 sec ttk. That ttk is between mp5 and mp7, both of which also have better movement/ads/recoil per default.

  • @yusolame24
    @yusolame24 Před 4 lety +6

    I LOVED HOW WHILE TALING ABOUT QUESTIONING THE GRAU AT CLOSE RANGE HE USED A CLIP DESTROYING IN STAIRCASE LOL

  • @7elche
    @7elche Před 4 lety

    Thanks man! This was awesome!

  • @radar5love
    @radar5love Před 4 lety

    Nice job! I appreciate this video. Keep them coming.
    MP7 vs M13
    MG34 vs MK9

  • @spurthammond6738
    @spurthammond6738 Před 4 lety +80

    All these Ram-7 and M13 comments but still no love for my always-viable-but-forgotten Kilo :(

    • @m4TT5
      @m4TT5 Před 4 lety +7

      Spurt Hammond I’ve seen more people using the Kilo it’s good

    • @legostromtrooper1994
      @legostromtrooper1994 Před 4 lety +1

      idk about the kilo, its good but it can be better

    • @moparmadness0180
      @moparmadness0180 Před 4 lety +9

      I'd rather use the kilo. Better up close than the grau better at range than the m4. I also prefer it at range more than the grau or the m13. The laser beam la k of recoil keeps shots on target.

    • @m4TT5
      @m4TT5 Před 4 lety +2

      Moparmadness01 the grau and M13 have better recoil

    • @konishiwoi
      @konishiwoi Před 4 lety +2

      Berlin gang

  • @hellstocker7707
    @hellstocker7707 Před 4 lety +5

    Grau vs Kilo would be great. Since they're so similar

    • @m4TT5
      @m4TT5 Před 4 lety

      hell stocker no it should be M13 vs the Grau. Those guns are the accurate long range guns of warzone

    • @m4TT5
      @m4TT5 Před 4 lety

      @@RB028 But the M13 and Grau both have good range and low recoil. These guns would be better

  • @sika9577
    @sika9577 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for another awesome video Ace. Next video must be the short range SMGs: MP5 vs. MP7. I have loadouts with both and i can't decide which one is better for Warzone.

  • @Prplex.
    @Prplex. Před 4 lety

    Would love to see more of these

  • @dendennis23
    @dendennis23 Před 4 lety +25

    People are sleeping on the “Anti Vehicle” pre set load out in the load out drops. Shit is fire.

  • @Grazmuck
    @Grazmuck Před 4 lety +19

    Loved this video, Ace. Would really enjoy more of these specific to WarZone. Particularly M4 vs RAM and Grau vs M13

  • @Rudyshotcha
    @Rudyshotcha Před 4 lety

    There you go! Good content. Maybe comparing the kilo to the Grau since you said they’re more similar to each other? Also I maybe comparing recoil attachments again? I noticed streamers, like nickmercs and teepee, using a rubberized grip. I’m your old recoil attachments video the rubberized grip didn’t seem to make a difference in recoil. Jgod also recommended the grip in a video. I sometimes I like to kit out my weapon to be as most accurate as possible; stack the commando foregrip to the muzzle break to tighten up that side to side spread, using a compensator muzzle, or even using the recoil reducing NVG optic.

  • @joshneville8175
    @joshneville8175 Před 4 lety

    Would absolutely love to see mp5 vs mp7 for warzone, been having this argument with a friend for sometime

  • @triancirc
    @triancirc Před 4 lety +13

    I prefer the M4A1 with the corvus, the grenadier looks ugly imo while the corvus is as effective yet with a modern look.

    • @Colton-fm8dh
      @Colton-fm8dh Před 4 lety +8

      triancirc I’m opposite lol. I think the Corvus looks ugly.

    • @LaxinitUp24
      @LaxinitUp24 Před 4 lety +1

      triancirc same here, plus a slightly better ads

    • @leroylee7044
      @leroylee7044 Před 4 lety

      @@LaxinitUp24 Corvus adds bit more recoil right?

    • @rayanbel6300
      @rayanbel6300 Před 4 lety +10

      It doesn't matter which is ugly it matters which is better

    • @LaxinitUp24
      @LaxinitUp24 Před 4 lety +1

      Leroy Lee I don’t think so but could be wrong. It was my understanding that both just slightly help with horizontal recoil. Grenadier just gives slightly more range for a slightly worse ads when compared to the Corvus I think.

  • @Hoxhollsi
    @Hoxhollsi Před 4 lety +3

    I'm using the 10 Rounds Mag on my M4A1, with a S.M.G. or a Shotgun that I usually find around.
    Do you have any thoughts on the 10Round Mag?

    • @vex7830
      @vex7830 Před 4 lety +1

      Personally I use the 60 round mag on my m4a1. It is really useful for clearing a place without having to reload. But of course that is my preference.

    • @PcPlanet2000
      @PcPlanet2000 Před 4 lety

      If you like a few shots then put the 32 - 9mm ones. In this way the m4 becomes the fastest weapon in the game (faster than mp7).

  • @tonystrazzella5363
    @tonystrazzella5363 Před 4 lety

    I know they're different classes, but the Grau 5.56 vs MK9 both with 60 rd magazines would be interesting to me. I have a loadout for each to use for the mid-to-long range engagements when paired with an SMG and I'm having a hard time deciding which one I like better. I know this logistically would be tougher because you would have to build the weapons slightly different to make them more comparable. The builds I use when I'm pairing with an SMG are:
    Grau 5.56: archangel barrel, monolithic suppressor, 60 rd mags, commando foregrip, and stippled grip tape*
    MK9: monolithic suppressor, 60 rd mags, ranger foregrip, no stock, and either VLK or 4.0x hybrid optic.
    * I use no stock if I'm rolling the Grau/HDR combo - but these are builds focused on making the weapons ideal for the mid-to-long range engagements because I can use the SMG for closer range or when I need mobility.
    The ability to go iron sights on the grau lets you use an extended barrel and more favorably match-up with the MK9 at range, but the MK9 with 60 rd mags and no stock feels like you're using an AR that can shred at range. The biggest difference I notice using the MK9 are the slightly slower movement and ADS times - but what I can't really tell is if the benefits in damage and ability to use an optic make up for it.

  • @seeker_of_knowlage3568
    @seeker_of_knowlage3568 Před 4 lety +1

    For my personal build, I use Grau for mid to long ranges and Crossbow for ambushing and close quarter engagement.

  • @dijbro
    @dijbro Před 4 lety +12

    I would love to see how the m13 stacks up against both of these rifles. Also the difference between mp5 and mp7

    • @zephyrjones9156
      @zephyrjones9156 Před 4 lety +1

      Dij, how good even is the m13? i’ve been using it more often and i really like it in a close up fight.

    • @LosAngeles10-33
      @LosAngeles10-33 Před 4 lety +1

      Zephyr Jones, the stats of the M13 are not great for close quarters to be honest. Kilo, Grau, M4, RAM-7 are all better choices in CQB. The M13 can do pretty well for long range (although I prefer Grau or Kilo for that), and then can be supplemented with an MP5 for good TTK up close.

    • @zephyrjones9156
      @zephyrjones9156 Před 4 lety +1

      Brock Hampton what the hell i use it only for close range fights lol

    • @LosAngeles10-33
      @LosAngeles10-33 Před 4 lety

      @Zephyr Jones, if i might make a suggestion, use MP7 for CQB and whichever you feel comfortable with for long range: M4, Grau, Kilo, Sniper.
      The MP7 will feel similar to your M13, but kill faster up close, take up pistol caliber, and have better handling stats. Then the ARs with better stats will do their work in medium to long range.

    • @dogboy0912
      @dogboy0912 Před 4 lety

      Ok here is the stack up. It's worse.

  • @hereinsertname
    @hereinsertname Před 4 lety +3

    I honestly prefer the RAM to either of these in WZ. Don’t know why more people don’t use it - it has higher max DPS than either of these guns, and if you use the longest barrel it’s still fairly decent at range.

    • @VzehHD
      @VzehHD Před 4 lety

      feel like a lot of people are put off by the accuracy/ recoil control.

    • @gokulraj2406
      @gokulraj2406 Před 4 lety

      RAM is the only Gold gun i have

  • @lemanruss7218
    @lemanruss7218 Před 4 lety

    Currently don’t have a grau to use, but I really enjoy my M4 setup with an SKS as my secondary.

  • @uso6844
    @uso6844 Před 4 lety

    Damn bro great Content.... i gotta try these two out

  • @FiftyBombFamous
    @FiftyBombFamous Před 4 lety +14

    Have you noticed that equipping extended barrels on ARs nerfs the weapons hipfire? Was this a hidden change or like this all along?

    • @DONQUAKER
      @DONQUAKER Před 4 lety

      Is like this in every cod game, if you put on a sight the ads is slower, if you put a silencer it helps with recoil

    • @Danxiong
      @Danxiong Před 4 lety +4

      DONQUAKER silencer does not help recoil. Never did, actually in BO2 it increases recoil by 2%.

    • @cobaltcardsgaming5982
      @cobaltcardsgaming5982 Před 4 lety +1

      @DONQUAKER Silencer is completely wrong. It reduces muzzle flash but doesn’t help recoil. In BO2 the suppressor actually hurt recoil by 2%.
      The Red Dot Sight also doesn’t hurt ADS time in most previous CoDs, same with the Holo Sight.

    • @browncoat697
      @browncoat697 Před 4 lety

      Shorter barrel means better hip fire in MW, true for every gun. Not a hidden change either.

    • @DONQUAKER
      @DONQUAKER Před 4 lety

      Sorry I meant INFINITY WARD GAMES, TREYARCH is a whole diferente breed

  • @benguini.
    @benguini. Před 4 lety +54

    Why does the Ram always get left out of these comparisons

    • @scipioafricanus2071
      @scipioafricanus2071 Před 4 lety +17

      because he said he's comparing the 2 most popular ARs in this video

    • @BenboFoSho
      @BenboFoSho Před 4 lety +9

      scipioafricanus but title suggests either of those 2 are the best, even though the Ram is a valid competitor

    • @yassinehani
      @yassinehani Před 4 lety +6

      not accurate on long range

    • @asd6969
      @asd6969 Před 4 lety +2

      @@yassinehani rly?! With long barrel It melts every Rage, without barrel has fastest ads for close mid melting aswell...

    • @Tomosullivan6
      @Tomosullivan6 Před 4 lety +1

      Because it is a shorter range ar and he is comparing the 2 most popular ars

  • @yousifalnaama3567
    @yousifalnaama3567 Před 4 lety

    Thanks a lot for this video, I was waiting for such video from you for a long time, I would like to see more videos like this.
    Bty you'r the best and this is my first comment on a CZcams video for about 11 years using it and you deserve it, thank you for your efforts

  • @ImMunchie
    @ImMunchie Před 4 lety

    Love both these guns switch between them everytime I get bored of one lol

  • @MyWORDisntGospel
    @MyWORDisntGospel Před 4 lety +4

    I’ve never been an M4 user. I was rolling M13 in MP. When WZ came out, I started playing around and got my hands on the Grau. It’s now my go to. I love it so much it’s the first weapon I got Obsidian on. I roll Grau with MP7 for close range.

  • @roohkanga9286
    @roohkanga9286 Před 4 lety +7

    Personally prefer the Fal and Aug secondary (with 5.56 drum) or sometimes like to run the PKM it's so underated in WZ.
    I don't like using the META I always prefer to go with something people don't generally use

  • @dogboy0912
    @dogboy0912 Před 4 lety

    Hey Ace, I think it would be interesting to see a hipfire guide. You can get hipfire for some of the SMGs to the point where it is fairly viable to not ADS within like 10m. The way the attachments affects hipfire is not always clearly stated, and I am pretty sure there is a limit on how small you can get your cone of fire for each gun to where attachments won't affect it after that point. I found that muzzle attachments don't seem to have any effect on hipfire for smgs (I only tested some SMGs), but removing the stock does. Both affect recoil control, but only the stock seemed to do anything to hipfire.

  • @madmajek
    @madmajek Před 4 lety

    I'd love the see a video about Underused weapons in Warzone and ideas about what should be done to improve them

  • @lunchpin403
    @lunchpin403 Před 4 lety +4

    I feel like I see them both the same amount, set up almost identically. It's probably just down to which you're most comfortable with. I'm gonna stick with the PKM though lol

  • @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808

    I feel like people over look the Ram 7 often, the recoil pattern is difficult to master. But the dps values are one of the highest behind the fal and Oden but the fire rate is much more forgiving. Solid iron sights on the corrupted blue print. It handles better than every ar aside from the grau. But in most gunfights the ram 7 dps wins.

    • @brendanphillips8448
      @brendanphillips8448 Před 4 lety +1

      Ram is a straight up killing machine. There are two big flaws however that make me not use it as much. First, the vertical recoil is kinda insane and you need to run compensator to actually help it (compensator+commando foregrip proven to be best combo for recoil). Second big flaw is no 60 round mag which makes it slightly less viable for trios/squads

    • @pepacrow6794
      @pepacrow6794 Před 4 lety +3

      Ram 7 is literally an M4 with higher fire rate but idk why tf do people prefer the grau

    • @aaronmosf3t719
      @aaronmosf3t719 Před 4 lety +1

      Pepa Crow recoil

    • @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808
      @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808 Před 4 lety

      After using it for probably 80 hours in warzone or so. With monolithic, tac laser, commando foregrip, 50 round mag, and the second longest barrel to keep it 2 frames faster for only 5% loss of range. My only issue the unlikely event that you get rushed by 3 people or at worst 4s in quads is that you down 2 and need to reload before the first. 60 rounds would be nice. But the ram did get 5 more bullets awhile back. Also I believe you get a small movement speed advantage over 60 round mag users.

    • @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808
      @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808 Před 4 lety +1

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  • @RestonIchiban
    @RestonIchiban Před 4 lety

    @theXclusiveAce - Any chance you'll ever do a thorough breakdown of all the killstreaks? I suspect there's all sorts of aspects of them I have no clue about. For instance, I just watched precision airstrike versus cluster bomb and learned about the cone pattern of the cluster bomb. I always assumed it went out in a circular radius.
    Love your videos. The data driven analysis has made me better at MW.

  • @abdulrahman31350
    @abdulrahman31350 Před 4 lety

    I bought the nikto set and fell in love with the cerulean (blue print kilo with blue tracers)

  • @lag8930
    @lag8930 Před 4 lety +4

    IMO the Archangel barrel just isn't worth it. +5% to range isn't worth the tradeoff for slower ADS speed. I always run the Nexus barrel and take the faster ads speed. That's just me though I'm not sure what other's opinions are.

    • @cappzap
      @cappzap Před 4 lety

      ur right, objectively nexxus barrel is better, the only reason i use archangel 100% of the time is because i fucking LOVE the iron sight (subjective)

    • @Sam-yu4ve
      @Sam-yu4ve Před 4 lety

      I agree but I still use the archangel because of the iron sights. If you use no stock the ADS speed is pretty fast still.

    • @lag8930
      @lag8930 Před 4 lety

      @@cappzap fair enough, I use a red dot sight almost 100% of the time so iron sights don't matter to me. But I agree the archangel barrel has some great irons

    • @danmizu8140
      @danmizu8140 Před 4 lety

      You're basing this purely off of ads speed, when you factor in the way clearer sight picture of the archangel barrel it easily comes out on top. You even mentioned you use a red dot sight which is a wasted attachment slot (huge) on a gun that arguably has the best iron sight in the game.

    • @lag8930
      @lag8930 Před 4 lety

      @@danmizu8140 I prefer to have a slightly better zoom level and an open sightline

  • @TheUndulyNoted
    @TheUndulyNoted Před 4 lety +27

    Grau for 3 reasons: less recoil, much more range (most warzone fights do occur at the sweet spot where grau overtakes M4), nice iron sights meaning I don't need an optic unlike with m⁴, also meaning I can have a further recoil reducing attachment over the m4

    • @nolimit423
      @nolimit423 Před 4 lety +3

      you don't need an optic for m4 what are you on about. m4 has higher fire rate, more damage, and less ttk. m4 still has almost zero recoil therefore making it the better weapon close and mid range. grau is only better far range

    • @joaquincasascortes624
      @joaquincasascortes624 Před 4 lety +1

      @@nolimit423 dude the m4 doesnt has great iron size nor cero recoil, what are you talking about. Just go ahed and try to get medium range kills with it, its not as reliable as the grau

    • @TheUndulyNoted
      @TheUndulyNoted Před 4 lety +1

      @@nolimit423 You dont NEED an optic for any weapon, however there is a reason to have an optic if the irons are obstructive - most detrimental I find is when the gun's recoil causes the irons to obstruct the view of a target at range. This never happens with a good optic like the GI reflex or VLK, but does happen with the M4, particularly as without attachments which counter recoil at the cost of ADS speed the M4 kicks significantly enough at range that this is always an issue. If using the same barrel attachments (eg grenadier vs tempus, or corvus vs nexus) the M4 and grau actually have the SAME or very very similar ttk, as exclusive ace shows in this very video. The Grau excels in ranged encounters which are extremely common in WZ, and at range the grau is superior in every respect. If you're relying on a single gun for close-long ranges in WZ the grau with balanced attachments for both ADS speed and recoil reduction along with one of the long barrels is the clear winner. My grau setup is mono suppressor, nexus barrel, void grip, commando foregrip, and 60 round mags.

    • @chrisb7051
      @chrisb7051 Před 4 lety

      Vince P one could make the argument that having a better ttk at close ranges is more important because it’s harder to avoid close range gunfights (also easier to force closer range gunfights)

    • @nolimit423
      @nolimit423 Před 4 lety

      @@joaquincasascortes624 it does have a good iron sight. if you're actually good at the game you can control the m4's easy recoil making it almost zero recoil it's not hard.

  • @KevinAKorte
    @KevinAKorte Před 4 lety

    Hello great video as usual!
    I never comment but found the video very enlightening so I had to comment and recommend you do a video comparing the MK9 MG/Assult Rifle variants and these two. I am torn between the 3 love to see a comparison. Great vid and keep up with the great content!

  • @robertbengel2689
    @robertbengel2689 Před 4 lety

    From browsing youtuber WZ gameplay, I plotted the relative distances that most gunfights typically occur at. Using Drift0r's and JGOD's gameplay, no matter which videos I select, I tend to find the same trends: about 1/4 gunfights occur within 15 meters, another 1/4 between 15-30m (with many ocurring between 25-30m), about 1/6 between 30-40m, and the rest from 40-100+m very spread out. Because of this, I treat 40m as the cutoff point for range benefits in WZ, since it's unlikely a given fight will occur past that point (and if they do, it's usually not easy for either party to hit shots). But, my methods aren't pristine, I'm curious if others have done similar

  • @lenv28
    @lenv28 Před 4 lety +3

    Definitely an m4a1 lover see how he is just m4’ing
    Edit:(idk what i even said)

  • @m4TT5
    @m4TT5 Před 4 lety +54

    Who else is using the M13, RAM-7 or Kilo instead of the M4 it Grau?

    • @DeezBulletz
      @DeezBulletz Před 4 lety +4

      Matthew F Im using a LMG before i use a m4.

    • @bloroxcleach3439
      @bloroxcleach3439 Před 4 lety +1

      Not kilo but yeah

    • @Teknostorm108
      @Teknostorm108 Před 4 lety +2

      Nah I’m repping oden gang, it’s crazy if you can hit all your shots it seems unfair

    • @khizarinam
      @khizarinam Před 4 lety +2

      Started using ram 7 recently and I am loving it, before I used grau

    • @mvd960212
      @mvd960212 Před 4 lety +1

      @@JohnSmith-pv1mz yeah the low recoil really helped me to win gun fights over longer ranges

  • @gilesy2420
    @gilesy2420 Před 4 lety

    Would love to see a video breaking down the new LMG(bruen Mk9) vs the Grau. I think the new LMG with the proper attachments will compete with any assault rifle at medium- long range.

  • @daxvax
    @daxvax Před 4 lety

    Very good content. Thank you