PUBG Was Amazing (and How it Got Bad)

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    0:42 PUBG is Slow
    2:36 what does "heterogeneous" mean
    4:10 Erangel and all the things i have to say about it
    6:14 school.
    10:04 Miramar and the content desert
    12:11 Sanhok and its consequences
    14:57 after the pirhanas leave
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  • @pchris
    @pchris Před 6 měsíci +6859

    That’s such an interesting problem. As a game developer you could be receiving all this very loud feedback making it very clear what your focus should be, but if you follow it, you kill your game. Really shows that you need to hold on to your creative intentions and filter feedback through your own lens. Taking feedback is a skill.

    • @rsho3472
      @rsho3472 Před 6 měsíci +223

      Damn, Rockstar following this to the top! Not listening to feedback at all, releasing mediocre updates for their primary source of income (And no updates for the other one) and having both games be a huge security risk for their player base, as well as not having any functional anti-cheat.
      I guess all that are good descisions because they are just making bags like champions, good for them!
      Damn I love Red Dead Online...

    • @rept2902
      @rept2902 Před 6 měsíci

      @@rsho3472 i also love team fortress 2

    • @ekki1993
      @ekki1993 Před 6 měsíci +524

      The user is often right about the problem but almost always wrong about the solution.

    • @mn7306
      @mn7306 Před 6 měsíci +36

      But there's also the problem with profit I believe.
      Following your creative might be not the best method to gain money, which probably not a very concerning thing for a small/indie studio
      But what if it has grown big enough that they must make a way to gain money?

    • @dotchas4133
      @dotchas4133 Před 6 měsíci +16

      @@rsho3472 yeah man they also made some of the best games in all of history how could they or valve who also made some of the best games in history like cs and never gave a fck about the community and still made cs the best fps shooter on the market (fairly their anti cheat is weak and cs2 is still getting polished but im 100% confident if one of those issues are tackled soon it will be like before (at the top)

  • @denzo3882
    @denzo3882 Před 5 měsíci +2122

    Now I feel honored to have experienced PUBG at it's prime.

    • @SougoUltimateSadist
      @SougoUltimateSadist Před 5 měsíci +55

      dropping inside the floor of a triangle that suppossed to be a building never felt that nostalgic

    • @ShadowF-
      @ShadowF- Před 4 měsíci +15

      The nostalgia Bros ... Game its improving every update...

    • @GoozaWoW
      @GoozaWoW Před 4 měsíci +6

      you should, all my shit got stolen during it's peak and i only got a play a game or two on my friend's computer. it was so much better. it reminds me of all the old games i grew up on that are now long dead and never coming back.

    • @FeverDev64
      @FeverDev64 Před 4 měsíci +11

      😢 I didn't have a decent pc nor money to buy it back then. Too bad, I missed one of the most genre defining game of all time

    • @GoozaWoW
      @GoozaWoW Před 4 měsíci +3

      It's a shame really, because they're adding updates to this day. they're not 100% solid updates, but i love all of the new weapons and the maps. @@FeverDev64 It would really be a game again if people just started playing it again. the ONLY problem it has is the bots.

  • @HardCoreStefanO
    @HardCoreStefanO Před 3 měsíci +184

    I really miss that 'quiet and slow time' of PUBG. Just having fun conversations with the boys while looting and stuff and then intensify once battle erupted. It was fun while it lasted.

    • @noamias4897
      @noamias4897 Před 12 dny +2

      Me and my friends still do that

    • @benkai9921
      @benkai9921 Před 7 dny +1

      Just started a few days ago and do exactly that

    • @pasonveronica2370
      @pasonveronica2370 Před 5 dny +1

      Lol

    • @CennoSoldier
      @CennoSoldier Před 3 dny +1

      Got back into the game I have to say…. At this current time this video is a bit dramatic. Been playing classic erangel and even sanhok and it feels very much like the tac military shooters I mainly play. Slowly positioning around the map and taking up positions to pick off enemies slowly and patiently.

    • @HardCoreStefanO
      @HardCoreStefanO Před 3 dny

      @@CennoSoldier Classic erangel does sound good, i'll give it a try

  • @daniel4412
    @daniel4412 Před 2 měsíci +77

    Am I the only one who commonly has dreams about PUBG? Haven't played it in 4+ years, but every once in a while I still have a dream that revolves around the map Erangel.

    • @mathewvanostin7118
      @mathewvanostin7118 Před 24 dny +3

      Bro dream about erangel gameplay dammm 😂

    • @daniel4412
      @daniel4412 Před 24 dny +9

      @@mathewvanostin7118 It's crazy, it's not like I'm actually playing the game, but I'm in the map. I had like 1000 hours in it, back then I was like 16, and these dreams only started a year ago.
      If anyone else has this I would be fascinated to know. The map, with the two main islands is always how the world is, but also different and new sometimes.

    • @pzy9870
      @pzy9870 Před 22 dny

      Yes it hapeened to me with call of duty

    • @daniel4412
      @daniel4412 Před 20 dny

      @@pzy9870 Fascinating

    • @AnastasiaCole-
      @AnastasiaCole- Před 7 dny

      I can't see a plane irl without thinking air drop 😂
      So many other little things also.
      You should come back to the dark side.

  • @RadiusCulling
    @RadiusCulling Před 5 měsíci +1800

    the tension the game managed to build was unmatched. the immediate switch from comfort to complete terror that happens halfway through the match is intense, and you're just forced to sit with that emotion making minutes feel like hours. that paranoia is what gets you genuinely engaged. eventually the tension is masterfully released by a kill that overwhelms you with glee, or a death that is so frustrating it motivates you to play another match, and you really never know which one is going to happen. devs need to embrace making the player uncomfortable, thats what made the game fun in the first place.

    • @dzungphan2665
      @dzungphan2665 Před 5 měsíci +12

      So you run around for half an hour and that’s fun for you ?

    • @beaconofhope8700
      @beaconofhope8700 Před 5 měsíci +145

      ​@@dzungphan2665me when constant incessant attention parting effects and constant cheap engagement is not present

    • @dzungphan2665
      @dzungphan2665 Před 5 měsíci +12

      @@beaconofhope8700 Why would they want a player base full of hiding rats ? I would rather have the confidence to jump out with a nade on my hand when I hear football steps than to hide anxiously. Constant engagement teaches you how to play and master the game. Harder in the beginning but much more rewarding in the long run. Winning with 1 kill after running for half an hour is boring af.

    • @RadiusCulling
      @RadiusCulling Před 5 měsíci +107

      ​@@dzungphan2665it is fun, i explained why in my comment. its clear that the game just isnt for you. ironically this video showcases that your mindset and appealing to players like you is what ruined the game, but apparently you didnt read my comment, or watch the video.

    • @gungrave10
      @gungrave10 Před 5 měsíci +1

      What do you think of CS GO battle royale?

  • @reach268
    @reach268 Před 6 měsíci +1035

    Couldn't agree more. I miss those early days, the big slow maps, me and my friends dropping outside the hotspots and enjoying that slow building tension towards combat, joking, chatting, becoming increasingly paranoid. It was a magical experience which I deeply miss.

    • @miltonbuu
      @miltonbuu Před 6 měsíci +13

      Magical? The fuck bro 😂

    • @mikebasketball11
      @mikebasketball11 Před 5 měsíci +95

      @@miltonbuuwhen you take a step back and realize a mere few hundred years ago we were in the fucken dark ages, it is absolutely magical we get to play virtual battle royals multiplayer games on personal computers. 😊

    • @miltonbuu
      @miltonbuu Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@mikebasketball11 👍

    • @monstertyler2010
      @monstertyler2010 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Bot

    • @Heykelvinzzz
      @Heykelvinzzz Před 5 měsíci

      Real

  • @Ziro_kun
    @Ziro_kun Před 3 měsíci +86

    Still grindin this in 2024 and still enjoyin itt

    • @PeteM-vb9sm
      @PeteM-vb9sm Před měsícem

      yep😂

    • @ceekhannianga860
      @ceekhannianga860 Před měsícem +9

      Theyre just weak in the game who keeps on dying even on easy fights, thats why the found it now boring and got dissapointed all the time.a

    • @BasedHSVdude
      @BasedHSVdude Před 28 dny

      @@ceekhannianga860 nah the tension and slow burn was amazing, the problem is they made it more like Fortnite and Warzone with fast paced fights instead of its original tension philosophy

    • @Fcmobilegoals1
      @Fcmobilegoals1 Před 28 dny

      Me tooo😂

    • @default587
      @default587 Před 23 dny

      @@ceekhannianga860based

  • @madlad5964
    @madlad5964 Před 4 měsíci +260

    I dont see enough people pointing this out, but this is a whole ass documentary, and a well written, edited, narrated and thought out one too. I dont remember watching something this professional and entertaining thats also gaming related in a while. Great job man, truly amazing piece

    • @phalxor
      @phalxor Před 2 měsíci +3

      i doubt you could even summarize "what" is being pointed out

    • @dr.berryfx8580
      @dr.berryfx8580 Před 2 měsíci

      I knoow I’m surprised most people aren’t pointing it out.This video was an incredibly well presented documentary.This guy is good.

  • @yanneyanenchannel
    @yanneyanenchannel Před 6 měsíci +1782

    I think most multiplayer games are at their best when they are relatively new and nobody knows what the hell they are doing yet.
    I also have fond memories of early PUBG with my friends, and I really appreciated the more quiet moments of running and driving, where we could just hang out and chat (until we heard gun shots somewhere in the distance). I think we stopped playing even before Sanhok, but based on this video, I believe it was the right call, sadly enough.

    • @HIMISOCOOL
      @HIMISOCOOL Před 6 měsíci +64

      I super get this sentiment, I had the most fun in BF3 before everyone knew how to play, everyone was super cautious and you got the dopamine trickled in from things like surpression bonuses

    • @PInnHeAd
      @PInnHeAd Před 6 měsíci +33

      Yeah me and my friends just wanted to test fornite when it first released, we thought it was a test and then forgett kinda game but early fortnite before people built mansions in 1 second flat and it had the (decently) annoying RNG shooting was some of the funnest we ever had.

    • @flagondragon1854
      @flagondragon1854 Před 6 měsíci +29

      ​@@PInnHeAdno build honestly brought that old fun back in fortnite.

    • @Romashka_Sov
      @Romashka_Sov Před 6 měsíci +4

      Talk about WoW

    • @isaiahblake8723
      @isaiahblake8723 Před 6 měsíci +33

      Fr i remember when no one dropped school when i first started playing pubg it was me and my boys little secret spot for like a week we called ourselves the barefooted bandits cause we always dropped our shoes at match start

  • @looppp
    @looppp Před 6 měsíci +804

    PUBG holds such a special place in my heart. The music, the ambiance, the pacing, and the stress of the silence is something so unique

    • @JackoBanon1
      @JackoBanon1 Před 5 měsíci +13

      I have 2k hours in this game. Most of it done in 2017-18.
      This was the best time to experience the game. So random and so much fun.
      Nothing can bring back this time.

    • @Papa_Straight
      @Papa_Straight Před 5 měsíci +7

      ​@@JackoBanon1I played the mobile on for 2years. Became a try hard for a while and I learned so fast I just played casual and still got lot of kills because of the skill gap. Then the unoptimized game started adding more bs and I just left that shit. Never reached conquerer. Was too too busy in ace 5 dying and rushing and getting kills

    • @lowfade3273
      @lowfade3273 Před 5 měsíci +3

      i played 4k hours since 2022 and i guess the current state of the game is great. however they could really delete shit like the panzerfaust, bears or sand/snowstorms.

    • @-ZM_Gaming-
      @-ZM_Gaming- Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@Papa_Straight you described my last time playing that game

  • @aymanbenbaha
    @aymanbenbaha Před 5 měsíci +18

    Although it’s not used to describe video games, but I find this phenomenon eerily similar to a process called enshittification. It happens to Social Media as when they grow large and big they make their content "shittier" to cater to advertising and monetizing needs.

  • @Titax69
    @Titax69 Před 5 měsíci +135

    never played the PC version but i still remember the days when PUBG MOBILE dropped the whole world was crazy for that game i made online friends i used to play with for hours but not so long ago everyone was gone . the name,the fame and the days

    • @ArcIsConfused
      @ArcIsConfused Před 3 měsíci +23

      Pubg mobile died for a whole different reason, pubg mobile was always more fast paced and there was lot of fighting, what ruined pubg is their crappy updates, absolutely garbage events and stuff like that

    • @esportsfever9318
      @esportsfever9318 Před 2 měsíci +13

      ⁠@@ArcIsConfusedi agree with u..as a season 1 player i love the realisticness of pubg…but there kater updates make it more and more unrealistic….like respawning 2 3 times in a single games

    • @shahan1465
      @shahan1465 Před měsícem +4

      More like indians went crazy lol. Pubg mobile is nothing like the PC feel

    • @esportsfever9318
      @esportsfever9318 Před měsícem +4

      @@shahan1465 so if a game doesn’t feel like pubg pc that means its is bad😅😅 i can bet you re a teenager

    • @amogoose2971
      @amogoose2971 Před měsícem +1

      @@esportsfever9318 it is true though, pubg mobile is nothing like the pc version

  • @int3r4ct
    @int3r4ct Před 6 měsíci +1732

    As someone who was once a very good PUBG player, it was fantastic back in its day. I have fond memories playing with friends and just having fun. Idk if my friends and I just grew out of it or if the new maps just weren’t as good or the changes were bad or what, but eventually we all just slowly stopped playing and moved on to other games.
    I’ve basically just stopped playing BRs altogether, the closest thing I’ll play these days is Tarkov.

    • @LOLWHATBRO
      @LOLWHATBRO Před 6 měsíci +77

      it's because they overmonitized. haven't watched the video yet but last time i played pubg, you had to pay a membership fee to get into special servers (to combat cheating and bots) i have never opened the game on any device after seeing that and i never will.
      the game, the gameplay, the mechanics, the gunplay, all 🔥. they stopped adding meaningful content updates and instead hard shifted focus onto AGGRESSIVE monitization.

    • @pedroscoponi4905
      @pedroscoponi4905 Před 6 měsíci +94

      If what I've heard about Tarkov is true, then the fact you gravitated to it after PUBG is proof that the thing that changed was indeed PUBG, not you or your friends. It's another game that thrives on long arcs of tension and release. I think it will be a long, long time before we see a title in that niche catch fire the way PUBG did, and I don't doubt whenever that happens, it will be a repeat of what the video describes...

    • @jacobjohnson3200
      @jacobjohnson3200 Před 6 měsíci +45

      For me, it was the massive influx of cheats, the refusal to region lock certain countries, and the forced random map selection that lead to people constantly quitting sessions until they found with the map they wanted to play.

    • @nucance102
      @nucance102 Před 6 měsíci +7

      if havnt tried i highly recommend hunt showdown, an amazing extraction shooter

    • @int3r4ct
      @int3r4ct Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@nucance102 I play a fair amount of hunt with friends as well. Great game, hate playing it solo though.

  • @briantobread
    @briantobread Před 6 měsíci +728

    I started playing PUBG in 2017 before they had vault mechanics. Battle Royales felt so new and unique. I played days worth with a buddy of mine who has since passed. I have plenty of memories with my friend having a blast diving into Pochinki. It was great being able to play this game at its peak. It will be missed. And RIP to my buddy.

    • @Postbus22
      @Postbus22 Před 6 měsíci +28

      There was a bug when you pressed space and crouch at the same time, you would glitch through the window. I made a makro key for that precision move. good times, good times :D

    • @KitteridgeStudios
      @KitteridgeStudios Před 6 měsíci +14

      Played the game a lot back then, from 2017 to some time after Vikendi released (loved that map tho). So many memories of my squad, of the absurd amount of hours we played and cursed and memed around. Great memories. I reinstalled the game earlier this year. It's almost unrecognizable now.

    • @MixologistMilo
      @MixologistMilo Před 6 měsíci +16

      ✊ to those memories with your mate

    • @justdance689
      @justdance689 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Something and with my best bud who’s passed

    • @dudedude6690
      @dudedude6690 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Atleast you played in it's peak days but alot of people missed that opportunity. I love those days man, that was so Nostalgia

  • @Maelthorn1337
    @Maelthorn1337 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Great video! I'm also astonished that you put the sponsored section at the end. Because you decided to preserve the flow of your video by doing that, I watched the sponsored segment which I would skip for almost all other channels.

  • @Theodon23
    @Theodon23 Před 3 měsíci +3

    *it's 2017, you just realized people cant see you if you're sitting in a bush*
    Life is good, you have no enemies 😢

  • @acc4670
    @acc4670 Před 6 měsíci +267

    This helped me understand why my husband enjoyed PUBG so much back in the day. Not my preferred genre but the way you explain the experience, I get it. Some games just have/had "it". He doesn't play anymore, communities change.

    • @badger297
      @badger297 Před 6 měsíci +8

      This is a great comment ❤

    • @daftnote
      @daftnote Před 6 měsíci +3

      same for my friends and i. it’s that experience, more so than the game.

    • @acc4670
      @acc4670 Před 6 měsíci +8

      @otselet2443 I kinda sad I missed it's heyday. I might have actually enjoyed the "long slow and quiet" survival style gameplay. I'm not great at fire fights so I'd probably never win but I'd feel good about surviving as long as I could, getting better, and the quality time.
      Now if someone could explain grand strategy games to me as eloquently as PUBG. He'd love for me to play with him but it just looks like he's staring at a map and reading a lot lmao 😂

    • @7rodo
      @7rodo Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@acc4670what type of games would you say you're into

  • @Rozzachu
    @Rozzachu Před 6 měsíci +294

    I didn't know I missed PUBG this much... I remember when finding a Kar98k was an amazing feeling, and getting a snipe from over 50m away felt great, and I love the moments where I was crouch walking through fields walking around looking for small dots. This was a great throwback, and great video!

    • @kidcrumpet3333
      @kidcrumpet3333 Před 6 měsíci +6

      I think ima go play a bit now lol. I’m a mobile player but this video hit hard

    • @AyoKeito
      @AyoKeito Před 6 měsíci +5

      You can try Tarkov, but it has it's own numerous problems

    • @xtunying
      @xtunying Před 5 měsíci

      I played PUBG last time.. i don't know what the other items do.

    • @paperclip6377
      @paperclip6377 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Bro not the attention seeking pfp 😭

    • @goliathmb18
      @goliathmb18 Před 4 měsíci

      Ngl sometimes i look back at how pubg was and say yeah the games with all it's issues back then was actually more fun than now....now it's just a clownfest with all these kinky stripper skins and shitty dances that should have never been introduced into the game.

  • @fatihsesli8310
    @fatihsesli8310 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Holy shit, was this an entertaining video essay. Crazy how you feel when someone feels passion for the topic they are talking about. Well done man.

  • @starcraftgod1212123
    @starcraftgod1212123 Před 2 měsíci +3

    people want games to play competive but once the game becomes too competive people quit

  • @Mochaaaauwu
    @Mochaaaauwu Před 6 měsíci +333

    I've never seen a video that perfectly described how I feel about pubg, what drew me to it in the first place and what killed it for me. God damn good video

    • @nonono-yf9hm
      @nonono-yf9hm Před 6 měsíci +5

      Nah, sometimes people need to find excuses for being bad at the game.

    • @chicken1443
      @chicken1443 Před 6 měsíci +4

      When he mentioned Miramar it immediately resonated with me. I didn't know why but I've always loved it. It also explained why I love more realistic fps like Arma

    • @DavidFinni
      @DavidFinni Před 6 měsíci +3

      I don't understand how he says the game is dead. Player count always stays above 150k and is top 3 on steam. If that is dead...

    • @verde7595
      @verde7595 Před 6 měsíci +14

      @@DavidFinni You're right - you don't understand. Because he said "there is still a game called PUBG, but its identity is dead." That's the point. The game is still "there", sure, but it simply isn't the same game. And that is a bad thing.
      And besides, for a game that peaked at 3.5 million and averaged upwards of 2 for literal years, 150k is nothing. Especially when 125k of those are SEA hackers. It takes several minutes to queue these days and most of the time it's the same handful of players, plus some bots because not enough people were free to completely fill the lobby.

    • @verde7595
      @verde7595 Před 6 měsíci +12

      @@nonono-yf9hm you are literally the problem shown in the video lmao

  • @braedontrumpie5851
    @braedontrumpie5851 Před 6 měsíci +622

    When you starting talking about your disagreement's with the general view on Miramar, I started stupidly yelling "YES! YES!" because you are so right. PUBG used to feel so unique and real.
    PUBG was slow and strategic. Some fights could last for multiple minutes, and they had layers to them. After every fight that I lost, there were always ways that I knew I could have done better. Playing this game with my friends was so fun, because it allowed so much time to just talk or goof around. Sometimes, this game was genuinely relaxing because of the road trips and vast landscape to traverse.
    With that being said, Miramar and Erangel could also be delightfully terrifying. The final fights and final circles provided a level of tension that felt similar to Subnautica. I genuinely loved being scared in those final circles, and no other battle royale or FPS could make me feel how PUBG felt.
    I still play PUBG, but it lost its spark. The game is different now, and it lost many of the aspects that made it different from so many other games. I understand that most great games are destined to fall, though. Great video.

    • @zanyquack
      @zanyquack Před 5 měsíci +30

      I was always drawn to PubG because it had the same sorta DayZ firefight feeling. Gunfights would last a while, tactics were important. Looking back its clear why I never fell in love with Fortnite or Apex or Warzone the same I did with OG PubG.

    • @simont.n.4229
      @simont.n.4229 Před 5 měsíci +8

      The comment you've articulated is exactly what I would have said, but you summarized it perfectly.

    • @oj8289
      @oj8289 Před 5 měsíci +11

      I used to play PUBG mobile and was 1 of the players when there was just 1 map 2 modes (classic and arcade) and a start button. After some while when new things were added in the game. And I lost my interest then Miramar was released and it brought back the joy of old Erangle. And now both the games PUBG mobile and BGMI are dead. not adding new maps and mechanics and just adding new collabs and skins.

    • @BrandonHilikus
      @BrandonHilikus Před 5 měsíci +7

      I miss original pubg.... rip 2017-2019

    • @luthfihar3211
      @luthfihar3211 Před 5 měsíci

      i miss the days where the final count down in erangel is just a tense slow hunt in tall grass and the wheat fields with everyone not aware of eachother's position

  • @HONEmusicINT
    @HONEmusicINT Před 2 měsíci +1

    Me and my friends picked up PUBG yesterday for the first time in 5 years, we had an absolute blast tbh and plan to play more now

  • @ZOIMIBiIE
    @ZOIMIBiIE Před 5 měsíci +18

    One of my favorite things when this take hit console, you mentioned the tension. But the social aspect of hollering and shouting with friends. Talking shit during the quiet parts and then jumping into a gunfight. Was good times

  • @llKeey
    @llKeey Před 6 měsíci +535

    Gaming went from a fun hobby to basically acting as a drug and streamers being the pseudo dealers. I hate that shooters are so prime for this happening since its such a simple gameplay loop. I too like to have time to think, make mistakes and adapt, make plays based on my decisions rather than just my aiming skill, and most shooters these days due to "competitiveness" and everyone feeling they need to prove that they are in fact good at a game is really ruining games, mostly shooters I guess so it's not all bad.

    • @zircon104
      @zircon104 Před 6 měsíci +38

      Wow, you hit the nail on the head as to why I have never been into streamers. I honestly love contemplative games where skill is a factor but not as omni-present as mainline shooters like COD and Fortnite. It's why I loved early PUBG so much and mostly just play RPGs. Also ngl the mobile version is still a lot of fun.

    • @diabeticmonkey
      @diabeticmonkey Před 6 měsíci +36

      Exactly. Everyone wanting to be some kind of “pro” ruined casual shooter gameplay, and that’s why I only watch streamers that play single player games

    • @BiteDownPeteyYT2537
      @BiteDownPeteyYT2537 Před 6 měsíci +22

      ​@@diabeticmonkey it was inevitable, anything ever in popularity comes with oversaturation

    • @Gr0ot
      @Gr0ot Před 6 měsíci

      I’m confused.
      You’re mad people are playing the game…and want to be good at it? 🤨
      Isn’t that the whole point of gaming, also to have fun, but still…to get good at the game.

    • @diabeticmonkey
      @diabeticmonkey Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@BiteDownPeteyYT2537 This is very true

  • @lukky6648
    @lukky6648 Před 5 měsíci +884

    I remember playing the game for the first time in 2017. Everything about it felt so....raw and fresh , and it felt like the 2 maps had a hidden story to tell , something to uncover , speculate.
    Weapons felt like they were actually abandoned and not just spawned there for you to use. Finding clothes and different items felt like they belonged to someone else some time ago.
    Gunfights were a "Oh Shit!" Moment instead of a "another kill for me to take!". End battles with a few remaining made your heart beat faster and palms sweaty.
    Everything about the game felt so realistic because of a lack of flashy cosmetics or gameplay mechanics. It was about survival instead of skills or the number of kills.
    Later on , it turned into your average competitive shooter. Playinv a match no longer felt like a story from beginning to the end , it felt like dick measuring contest , who's got more kills , who can do no scopes and other sorts of bullshit.

    • @luthfihar3211
      @luthfihar3211 Před 5 měsíci +34

      yep the identity crisis of the game is palpable ever since the devs panicked and went with taking features and cue from warzone

    • @luthfihar3211
      @luthfihar3211 Před 5 měsíci +16

      to add to this, the Culling used to be an even Raw-er version of the concept with everyone struggling to survive but also struggling to kill eachother since weapons are scarce and the race to stock up in supplies and weapons before the last count down was more intense

    • @garakthetailor
      @garakthetailor Před 3 měsíci

      I remember getting my 2 year anniversary scar a couple months before the 3rd map came out

    • @docpr3dator
      @docpr3dator Před 3 měsíci +1

      Perfect comment ! ❤

    • @phalxor
      @phalxor Před 2 měsíci +3

      this video and the people commenting this sentiment are only outing themselves as the people they complain about. you can play the game however you want and treat it however you want. it doesn't need to be as you describe and it isn't for a large number of players. get your head straight

  • @maxi7521
    @maxi7521 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great Video, played PUBG on day one and also stoppe around Sanhok release.
    I never understood why i didnt like it anymore but your video really showed me the Reason, and got me some good Nostalgia for the good ol' days, ty

  • @diddyz7
    @diddyz7 Před 3 měsíci +2

    me and a buddy of mine still play this game to this day, but we are both already mechanically skilled, so gunfights were never an issue. We could jump into a game and 7/10 win school, but we didn't go there. We prefered and still do this, where we try to find an isolated spot, loot of what we want, and play the edge more or less the entire game, enjoying the few gunfights we get in. I have had 20 kill games that were boring, but also had 1 kill games that were awesome because of this. We also change the playstyle depending on the map, we still want to land secluded to have time to loot and enjoy the game, but we play Erangel, Miramar and the other large maps very slowly and methodically, but we play Sanhok and the other small ones semi-fast paced with smgs and dmrs. I think this helps us keep the game fresh to us so that we don't get too bored of playing the same way every time, but have the oppurtinity to switch it up.

  • @DEEZ_N4T
    @DEEZ_N4T Před 5 měsíci +183

    Playing Arma 3 where PUBG was originally a workshop mod really showed me how PUBG would’ve been if it stuck to the milsim like route, the slow paced game, the deafening cracking and snapping sounds of bullets, the nearly unwieldy automatic fire, it just felt right, where the game feels tense

    • @Heykelvinzzz
      @Heykelvinzzz Před 5 měsíci +1

      Real

    • @arandomkaz
      @arandomkaz Před 5 měsíci +1

      Is it still playable? Also what mod is it

    • @beracinq
      @beracinq Před 5 měsíci +6

      Even the Arma 2 DayZ PUBG Mod was awesome :D

    • @chaimkobylinski1988
      @chaimkobylinski1988 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Well PUBG would need mid game content as apart from looting phase and end game there is nothing to do

    • @abhilash9918
      @abhilash9918 Před 4 měsíci

      I liked fast paced pubg when I played it.
      It's all about personal preference.
      The game literally clocks highest concurrent players on steam and people keep saying pubg is ded?
      Stats are clearly against these claims.

  • @CS-zb7hx
    @CS-zb7hx Před 6 měsíci +141

    I miss the hell out of this game, the version of it that doesn't exist. I used to play third person duos with an old friend and it was a really great gaming experience as someone who was of average/okay skill and won on rare occasion.

  • @gacekneo
    @gacekneo Před měsícem +2

    I've started playing pubg about 6 months ago, and what instantly come to my mind when playing erangel and mirimar was - this feels like arma, one mistake and you're dead. And as an OG csgo player, I always was more or less worse than my friends in shooting the guns, but was way better in tactics and positioning myself to have an advantage to the enemy, and as the cs grew (now cs2 which I absolutely hate to be honest) I found that sense of tactics once again when I started playing pubg, and I must say now that I'm decent at the game that I don't die right away and actually do something in most matches I would summarise the game like this:
    Erangel - Basically arma
    Mirimar - Snipers map, very unforgiving for every mistake
    Sanhok, parmo and karakin - Basically a war where it feels like you're a low rank soldier that will probably die, and if you don;t you feel like an insane survivor
    Vikendi - dynamic, in getting from very calm to very intense very quickly
    Taego - "Driveby map"
    It's sad that I didn't get to enjoy pubg in it's original form (my pc was just to bad to run it lol) but I think the game now allows to enjoy it with friends that both, just like to shoot, and those who like tactis and planing, which at some times can decide the whole math
    thx for reading, if anyone is lol, have a great day

  • @Outcast3r
    @Outcast3r Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have been feeling all you said for a long time but I never said it because at that moment nobody was willing to accept and I wasn't much confident.
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    I closed my eyes in the end while the music was playing and I was listening to you. I had goosebumps.

  • @bobbythekidd4712
    @bobbythekidd4712 Před 6 měsíci +544

    I loved PUBG. I love the slow aspect. I loved carefully planning your movements, analyzing the terrain, and getting the tactical advantage because of it. It felt real. I really played it after my mom died. The slow quiet gameplay was a much needed change of pace for me. After a while it started to deteriorate. I didn’t know why until your video. You hit the nail on the head.
    At one point I showed this game to my friend. He hated it. Just running from town to town looking for kills and getting upset when he got punished for it. He thought the way I played was horribly boring and long. He moved on to fortnite and in order to play with him I did too. It never felt the same. I played it like PUBG and got punished for it. What’s the point of a mountain high ground when you can build a staircase up to it. Why avoid large fields when you can build your own cover. Why look at the map for anything besides the storm. I wish more people saw PUBG like you do. Then we would still have a game to play.

    • @RamblinRichard
      @RamblinRichard Před 6 měsíci +43

      Reading your comment I just want to say I felt the same. Maybe one day we will have a game like this again.

    • @lsp6032
      @lsp6032 Před 6 měsíci +31

      I just hope pubg can be revived, and look back towards its roots as somewhat of a survival horror type game rather than just like every other shooter, especially fortnite which I haven't and will never play in any capacity

    • @NKiwi2903
      @NKiwi2903 Před 6 měsíci +38

      I actually think the game still feels like old PUBG on Erangel or Miramar. Or even the map Taego which is similar in size to Erangel or Miramar. Only the presentation got more Cartoony which sucks in my opinion because I think they should have just doubled down on the semi-realism

    • @lsp6032
      @lsp6032 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @NKiwi-sm9zy I would probably play erangel and mirador mostly, since I am mostly about winning after surviving all those carnage happening in hotspots and probably taking out the hotspot victors

    • @Deezfuggin
      @Deezfuggin Před 6 měsíci +21

      Can’t lie no build revived Fortnite for me for a while, Fortnite died cause the skill gap got too large with everyone spamming builds. Now there are actual benefits to the terrain and it actually matters what weapons you carry. Still doesn’t beat the og pub feeling or anything but at least I got to take a break from taking a break from battle royales

  • @straight_man
    @straight_man Před 6 měsíci +83

    I never got the "boring" point. I used to get this from other people that Miramar was boring. But boy, all I and my squad played was Miramar. It was sniper heaven.

    • @TheCursedJudge
      @TheCursedJudge  Před 6 měsíci +11

      The Win94 from Miramar is still my favorite weapon

    • @michaelrains64295
      @michaelrains64295 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Only boring people who need someone else to entertain them or only want a twitchy mindless reflex shooter think it’s boring. Miramar is fantastic. Those who can’t discover that fact need too much hand holding and don’t wish to invest the time in learning the mechanics and developing strategies. PUBG has enormous depth. It’s many of the gamers who lack depth themselves who’ve left or complain.

    • @cyborgbob1017
      @cyborgbob1017 Před 5 měsíci

      @@TheCursedJudgeI respectfully disagree. I bring up the counterpoint of sawed off.

    • @fatluigiproductions
      @fatluigiproductions Před 5 měsíci +4

      I liked Miramar too, but my problem with it WAS that it was sniper heaven lol. Sniper heaven is hell to me :D

    • @onigumo
      @onigumo Před 5 měsíci +1

      well that means you are a complete scrub at a such low level that couldn't even comprehend why it's a trash map

  • @benthroop2461
    @benthroop2461 Před 3 měsíci

    This is a really excellent analysis. As an early player, I loved the openness and oscillation between actions and quiet, with growing tension all the time. It's been a couple years since I even booted PUBG up.

  • @jingo6119
    @jingo6119 Před 3 měsíci +1

    i like ur choosing of words, very well made video and good explanation. i loved pubg for the first year it was out, after that it felt... different. same view as you. my favourite moments were when fog weather was released on erangel.

  • @sophie.8333
    @sophie.8333 Před 6 měsíci +74

    PUBG created such scary gunfights with how the fairly new Battle Royale gamemode worked. Predator-Prey aspect of it was just amazing, I had never dropped into those big hot spots tho

    • @Marcoanmoti
      @Marcoanmoti Před 6 měsíci +5

      Fr it was so stressful sometimes especially when there where snipers watching you. It was actually hard to win.

    • @ultimaxkom8728
      @ultimaxkom8728 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@Marcoanmoti Personally, winning is not as important as the process and the growth itself. Perhaps it's just my mentality to say that fun does not require victory.

  • @tcniatcniatcnia
    @tcniatcniatcnia Před 6 měsíci +126

    As someone who has almost 200 hours on PUBG (All of them were pre Sanhok) I really enjoyed the game, playing it with friends was some of the most fun experiences in online gaming, I loved goofing around and enjoying my time. But I'm not gonna lie, I was never good at it. I never won, I never got to experience your first chicken dinner. I always was the person being bullied. I still enjoyed it though, winning wasnt all for me. I loved the quiet moments and I really enjoyed Miramar.
    In 2021 I re-downloaded the game after what feels like forever and after being greeted with what felt like a completely different game. I queued up for a map I've never recognized, dropped somewhere and instantly died. It happened for around 2.5 hours straight and it just felt miserable. I knew I was bad and I didnt expect to do good but man, that was not a fun experience.
    I havent touched it ever since but I after watching this video I kinda have this odd feeling where I wanna play it again lol, I wish I had a group of 3 friends where I could just play pubg again. Maybe finally get that long awaited cold chicken dinner.

    • @ultimaxkom8728
      @ultimaxkom8728 Před 6 měsíci +24

      To me this is just the devs' fault. They don't understand that in MP game design the most important thing is players like you, the foundation, and not the loud high-end players.

    • @yellowwducky
      @yellowwducky Před 6 měsíci +5

      I would say you could give it a go again. I am not a great player but as long as you land far from the plane, you likely can accumulate loot and if you are strategic get decent placement and some kills. Landing far also gives a bit of the feel of the original experience because you have not hot dropped. I would say the most forgiving map for a new player would be Paramo (which comes and goes in the rotation).

    • @AUTO6
      @AUTO6 Před 6 měsíci +5

      I wasn't good too but I still remember my first chicken dinner (I needed over 80 maches to play before I've won first time), this emotions where only one enemy left...

    • @post-surreal
      @post-surreal Před 6 měsíci +12

      damn bruh 200 hours and not a single win idk what to tell you

    • @ponyslavestation4669
      @ponyslavestation4669 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yea they just dont understand that catering to the pros is always just a short term success and i dont get how they dont see that. That only works for a small period of time whilst the game is fresh later on casuals will leave because of the game is becoming too sweaty and not even that new ppl wont come in and try it because of the exact reason. Leaving only the pros witch will start to move on slowly as well because the q times get longer and every enemy u encounter is as sweaty as them and it becomes unsatisfying for pros them selves...

  • @NorCalTRACON
    @NorCalTRACON Před 4 měsíci +3

    Me and my friends played this game from the very beginning. Hundreds and hundreds of hours were spent playing this game and there were so many memorable moments in this game with friends. And you are 100% right. At least for us Sanhok killed it. That was the last map we ever played. The core of pubg that we loved was gone, it was like another cod online that we didn’t ask for. But I guess for lots of people the fast pace was what they wanted.

  • @mistercallme3047
    @mistercallme3047 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I still remember the first winner winner chicken dinner. Prone for the whole game with ghillie suit. Only got one kill and it was the game winner, was such a chicken tactic but really fun in replays to see how hard it was to be seen in the final circle.

  • @awpaw5253
    @awpaw5253 Před 6 měsíci +1091

    you are NOT.. a video bame

  • @rightSye
    @rightSye Před 5 měsíci +792

    5 years later, the gun sound is still 10x louder than footstep

    • @NEEDbacon
      @NEEDbacon Před 5 měsíci +315

      I mean, realistically, yeah guns do be like that.

    • @Pico141
      @Pico141 Před 5 měsíci +113

      @@NEEDbacon yeah, using guns without ear protection can cause hearing damage, I'm not looking to get that from a video game though

    • @alfi341
      @alfi341 Před 5 měsíci +20

      Get the right Audio setup i hear everbody.

    • @jojozahau
      @jojozahau Před 5 měsíci +23

      @@Pico141 then adjust your audio by software or use a better headset.

    • @Pico141
      @Pico141 Před 5 měsíci +16

      Cringe take

  • @pssolanki2481
    @pssolanki2481 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video. I recently got back into PUBG a month back and I'm enjoying it so far. Haven't come across any cheaters in any of my games after revisit and I plan to stay this time. I had to drop it like a lot of other players for a few months. Some quirks still there but having fun again with a game that made me a permanent BR enjoyer.

  • @artemchinakov9646
    @artemchinakov9646 Před 4 měsíci

    Very well spotted on. Thanks!
    Love PUBG, play it on my tablet frequently now.

  • @chaggle
    @chaggle Před 6 měsíci +389

    I wasn't able to buy this game when it was in its heyday, I wanted it so bad. I watched some of Pewdiepie's first early vids on the game (before the incident) and you really verbalized what I found so intriguing about this game, the vast silence spent alone is so appealing in some weird way. It has the same feeling as the original Apocalypse Rising game on Roblox where you survive alone for like an hour and then finally run into a person and you hope that they didn't see you too.

    • @ekki1993
      @ekki1993 Před 6 měsíci +34

      The comparison to a Roblox map gave me whiplash. Looking forward to video essays about that and feeling old. oof

    • @Bruhster27
      @Bruhster27 Před 6 měsíci +13

      Oh god not the bridge

    • @Tired_Bisexual
      @Tired_Bisexual Před 6 měsíci +13

      @@ekki1993best part is the roblox map is older than pubg by 5 years😂 the comparison kinda makes sense AR was based on arma2 dayz and pubg was based(loosely) off arma

    • @AhmadWahelsa
      @AhmadWahelsa Před 6 měsíci +7

      I was stuck on Intel HD back in the day so i was stuck playing the mobile version, was fun while it lasted, now i can run literally anything like RDR2 or CP77 but the memories can't be repeated, some of my friends quit gaming, some end up playing Valorant, some end up playing CSGO/CS2, because the BR genre nowadays is not as cool as it was back then

    • @randomstupiddude3565
      @randomstupiddude3565 Před 6 měsíci +7

      I can still recommend Hunt showdown it's like early PUBG with gimmicks

  • @hbibbekir
    @hbibbekir Před 5 měsíci +97

    I've sunk 800 hours into this game, getting addicted to the thrill of the rare encounters that happen but also getting frustrated most of the time by getting killed instantly from miles away after looting for several minutes without having the chance to fight back, it was a mixed bag of feelings but oh boy when you won the match it felt like a true victory, no other game made me feel that way when I won. Now the only players who remain are bots or hardcore veterans.

    • @Banjo_Dyed
      @Banjo_Dyed Před 3 měsíci +3

      For real, there's not a game that gives you the same level of satisfaction when you win. Even just getting a good kill feels glorious, however fleeting that may be.

    • @duyvuitton6019
      @duyvuitton6019 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@Banjo_Dyed For me what's killing PUBG is the bots, it completely cheapens the experience and "wins". I'm perfectly fine with waiting longer if it means no bots. Also the ability to select maps being removed (for only North American players I've been told) is very annoying.

    • @yourdad5799
      @yourdad5799 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Jay_Aargh83 This comment smells

    • @tharetsku
      @tharetsku Před 3 měsíci +3

      I got into the game quite late, but I loved it from the start. I got ass raped by lvl 500 try hards again, and again, and again. But slowly and surely, I improved. And the thrill of finally out moving, out gunning, and out smarting an actually skilled opponent is unmatched. The only other game with a similar feel is tarkov.
      PUBG is not for the faint of heart, but now they're trying to make it easier with the reboot and gulag shit. And of course the insane amount of bots. To me, the game is pretty much dead, which makes me sad.

    • @bryan-od3zm
      @bryan-od3zm Před 2 měsíci

      I only recently started playing the game again and I only have been playing against level 300+ players

  • @SuillaIsAwesome
    @SuillaIsAwesome Před 10 dny

    This is a really great video that means a lot to me as an og PUBG player. Thanks for making it

  • @styxnova8681
    @styxnova8681 Před 3 měsíci +3

    H1Z1 walked so PUBG could run

  • @dax_orion
    @dax_orion Před 6 měsíci +227

    "The casual players and the people I like to call the school bullies because I'm a cute little bitch I guess."
    This line made me cackle.

    • @KOTYAR0
      @KOTYAR0 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Yes, I play PUBG mobile, and I absolutely despise those M4 laser bullies. The moment they spot you at 200m you're peppered with bullets, it's awful

  • @srbelnap
    @srbelnap Před 6 měsíci +78

    You made some good points, and there's so much more I want to talk about.
    I don't blame the school bullies either: in fact, they (accidentally?) utilized an important training paradigm when developing a new skill: fail early and fail fast. This feedback loop teaches so much. If there's a game (or anything) you want to get better at, make your feedback loops as short as possible.
    I wanted to jump back into PUBG recently, but found out it's an entirely different game today. It's no longer the psychological battle royale it once was.

    • @nathangothan601
      @nathangothan601 Před 6 měsíci +3

      It’s riddled with cheaters also.

    • @VValkyr
      @VValkyr Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@nathangothan601 Correct me if I am wrong, but every multiplayer game seems to be "riddled with cheaters" these days.

    • @lukenardoni2454
      @lukenardoni2454 Před 5 měsíci

      While I don't totally disagree, there is so much more to the game that you will never learn simply by hot dropping over and over. There are also now way better ways of becoming good at shooting such as tdm and various training modes.

  • @sshk1653
    @sshk1653 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Also the weird skins 😑 was death of pubg

    • @stephan1834
      @stephan1834 Před 22 dny

      And bots. Would rather queue for an hour for an 80 human player lobby than a 1 minute bot lobby.

  • @chadocracy
    @chadocracy Před 2 měsíci +1

    Those were good days, it was an honor to be there with you gents.

  • @Shark-ni7dn
    @Shark-ni7dn Před 6 měsíci +52

    I seriously cherish new releases of yours, I love each style and structure of them. Full serious, lighthearted, intriguing, solemn, and this, more laid back, but still intricate and well-thought. you're an all-star dude

  • @rhamby3470
    @rhamby3470 Před 6 měsíci +33

    The small dips and hills and boulders all over the ground in Miramar make for the most enjoyable end game experience I could imagine. Being able to hide, move, and flank using the terrain's hills and roughness was so thrilling

  • @ivangraypiece
    @ivangraypiece Před 3 měsíci

    i really loved this! thank you :)

  • @kachigar8948
    @kachigar8948 Před 3 měsíci

    WHAT A FUCKING VIDEO. Man, i dont even play any of this games (not a shooter fan). But you gave me so many things to think about. You analysis is excellent, the way you form and present your thoughts is just sublime!
    Incredible. Instant sub.

  • @brickstonesonn9276
    @brickstonesonn9276 Před 6 měsíci +31

    Finally someone that enjoyed PUBG for what it was. That game is like nothing else; it distilled the best out of millsim, there was nothing like it and there'll be nothing like it ever again.
    Ill miss that thrill and that tension and that very tactical & creative positioning-centric gameplay.

    • @icebite9888
      @icebite9888 Před 5 měsíci +1

      You can still play like that, that's how i play.

  • @idavid8391
    @idavid8391 Před 6 měsíci +62

    There used to be a 2v2 beef amongst my friends over if Fortnite or PubG was better. This was mainly when we were teens and Fortnite was exploding and setup as the rival of the BR giant that was PubG. It's... interesting to look back on, to see not only how the games have changed but how we have to.

    • @NKiwi2903
      @NKiwi2903 Před 6 měsíci +11

      I HATED Fortnite as a Teen because I was an avid PUBG player and I feared that Fortnite would drive all the players away from it and I could no longer enjoy PUBG. My friends moved more towards Fortnite and I just refused to even play it once. Eventually I caved and also played Fortnite for a while until we all became bored of that game too and just played other games instead. But whenever me and my friends want to play a Battle Royale game now, we choose PUBG because kills and wins actually feel satisfying, despite or maybe even because so many good people stand in the way of it.
      PUBG still has a different Identity and feel to Fortnite, which is why both games still have their own playerbases, but I think PUBG should have done a better job at doubling down on its initial design philosophy.

  • @nothingelse1520
    @nothingelse1520 Před 20 dny

    One of the reasons Miramar was hated is the way vehicles behaved, when you drove over any bump your camera would jerk up and down, they eventually patched this but it gave people headaches. Also the complete lack of cover was a huge pain. I lost count of how many times in Miramar I was forced to run out in this big open field and got sniped in the head.

  • @honeybeebzzzt
    @honeybeebzzzt Před 3 měsíci +3

    “Bc I’m a cute little bitch I guess” is my fav line I felt that in my soul

  • @aripo14
    @aripo14 Před 6 měsíci +40

    This video hit too close to home. I was a PUBG player ever since early access. Those days of early access Erangel was... the best gaming moments in my whole life (and think it still is). I'm aware of the school hot drop but me and my friends were the type of guy who preferred to play this game tactically. We don't search for hot drop but we sure do search for action when it's good for us. And as the video stated there are a lot of quiet moments with old PUBG (which makes solo plays extremely heart thumping). But because I played it with friends, those moments were just us goofing around. Those moments are the ones I treasured the most.
    When PUBG 1.0 released (including Miramar), I still had those moments, especially because we were just graduated from college and were waiting for job interviews so we had nothing better to do than play PUBG. That is until we met a group of guys who embraced hot drop, a school bully, a top notch players who seeks constant actions. I do realize that playing like them will make me a better player. And so I started to prefer their calls (to seek constant action, let's call him Mr. A) to my other friends (who prefer camp a spot to win, let's call him Mr. B). Then I fully embraced the hot drop and the actions, but that transition wasn't obvious for me just yet. That is until Shanok arrives.
    One day, I was playing with a Mr. B in my squad which was full of Mr. As. It was possible to choose which map to queue back then and we were only queuing for Shanok. Mr. B doesn't perform well at all and I don't think he was enjoying his time in-game as much as we do. He then points out the thing that you said in your video: that Shanok is just an overblown deathmatch map. He doesn't like it. He wants that slow time in the game. He needs that slow time. And it occurred to me: I have changed. I no longer prefer to camp a spot and drop smart, I search for action and hot drops. I just realized that the game too has changed and caters more towards us Mr. As. But back then I basically told my Mr. B friend to man up and embrace the action. Wasn't long after that, he no longer played PUBG. Was a shame but to me, it just says more about his lack of skill and willingness to improve.
    Because it's a fact that PUBG gunplay was just top notch. One of the best ever in a video game. So it's just natural for us to seek gunplay, right? It turns out, as stated in the video, what makes the gameplay more tense and rewarding is the fact that there are moments of waiting and eerie quiet and the fact that death means the end of your game, period. I still think that no respawn in PUBG hurts the game because we players technically want to play video games. And having to die early and watching your team play isn't fun whatsoever. We weren't playing if all we can do was watch our friends playing. It was the deal breaker for me and all of my friends as well and right around that time, Apex Legends arrived for free and they enabled us to respawn our team so for us, it's either migrate to Apex or for some they go back to CS:GO.
    Apex is a great substitute for PUBG. It's a battle royale with pretty satisfying gunplay and gameplay loop, it runs well on our PC, it's free, and more importantly, it has respawning system. But Apex is no PUBG. There are no peaceful quiet moments in Apex. Apex is a far superior action game to PUBG, but does that make it better than what PUBG was? I don't think so.

    • @watersnortmoment3734
      @watersnortmoment3734 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I think it died when they got rid of the server selector. Switching over to a random choice ruined the game for me because a lot of the newer maps just weren’t as fun.

    • @vilkku792
      @vilkku792 Před 5 měsíci +1

      PUBG also has a respawn system now. It works differently on different maps but it's there.

  • @Mr.nesser
    @Mr.nesser Před 6 měsíci +50

    Oh I have a few things to say here.
    First of all, thank you for talking about old PUBG. You brought up some good memories.
    Second, one thing I am still salty about is the removal of map picking. I don't like most maps in the game (which by all means is a me thing) but it still sucks having to requeue every time I get an undesirable map or one that goes against how I like to play.
    I miss the days where everyone was just a goober and the guy who got one over the other by using cunning and or strategy won. Nowadays I can have someone ambushed and be sprayed down by said someone who looks at spray patterns every night before bed. The lack of matchmaking in that sense really hurts. I do still enjoy the game sometimes but only cause I play with a good friend. Playing alone just isn't what it once was.

  • @grimassassin9722
    @grimassassin9722 Před měsícem

    I agree with you about the desert map. it is I think my favorite map due to it not being just "Ok everyone is right around the corner" and more of "Ok i need to move tactically, do my best to keep the high ground and be observant otherwise they'll spot me first"

  • @tobiaschurch8848
    @tobiaschurch8848 Před 3 měsíci

    I was a Miramar player and you are right. My friends and I would play together and our best stories come from the true PUBG structure. Quiet looting, turned to crazy team fights in the final 15😂❤

  • @mundanesalad
    @mundanesalad Před 6 měsíci +41

    One of my favorite streams was Polygon’s weekly PUBG streams a few years ago. They would usually play the game normally but have an extra arbitrary rule like “you can only speak in rhymes” or something. It was great, seeing this silliness contrasting such an otherwise serious game. After a while they gave up on pubg and tried the same thing in Fortnite. It wasn’t the same. RIP Awful Squad.

  • @tbotalpha8133
    @tbotalpha8133 Před 6 měsíci +117

    The scrambling chaos, the sense of being inside a deadly ecosystem, the constantly shifting power-dynamics among players - that's the magic trick of Battle Royale. These games are not really meant to be about absolute skill. They're not meant to be games of competitive dominance. They're meant to be story generators, where you and every other player strive for a goal while buffeted by the fickle winds of fate. Everyone gets to be the protagonist, and everyone gets their own story.
    Battle Royale games aren't about winning - they're about the journey to that win (or more usually, loss). The tantalizing hope of victory, and the looming threat of failure, exist more to contextualize the micro-dramas that players stumble into. If players want competition and domination to be the focus, there are a million other games that already offer that. Let Battle Royale be slow, quiet, and brutally, fascinatingly unfair.

    • @Amalia19
      @Amalia19 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Yeah BR games are actually amazing when it comes to making stories, i'm more of an Apex player but the amount of battle scenarios BR games can make out of thin air is mindblowing as a story writer (especially in competitive/ranked setting).
      You can create battle stories with multiple perspective using your games as the reference, like sometimes your team is happily looting while other squads are fighting constant 3rd party to their death, and at some point you meet that squad and you win because that squad run out of ammo after fighting too many squads on previous encounters, the contrast between different perspective of your squad just casually wiping them, and their squad eventually dies after putting so much effort surviving the onslaught is just fascinating, and all of this happens in every single BR match

    • @BiteDownPeteyYT2537
      @BiteDownPeteyYT2537 Před 6 měsíci +2

      your right but , "slow, quiet, and brutally, fascinatingly unfair." is a genre that keeps dedicated players loyal but new players far, ultimately every other gaming studio took aspect of that and expanded on normal or fast paced shooters

    • @tbotalpha8133
      @tbotalpha8133 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Amalia19 It's much the same reason why Among Us got so popular, a while back. The idea behind Among Us isn't new - "hidden role" games have existed as party games dating back to the 60s, with Mafia being the originator. What worked with a group of people sat around a table, lying to each others' faces, works just as well in a virtual space.
      And the thing that works is the limited perspective that every player has on the state of the game. Players don't know everything that happens, and instead have to act on very limited information, frequently relayed to them by unreliable sources (other players). This means every player can end up having a wildly different experience of the game's arc. Again, every player is the protagonist of their own story. Sometimes they get to be the hero, sometimes they get to be the villain. Though most of the time they're an innocent bystander who gets shanked by the villain, or executed by their paranoid peers.
      Though what makes hidden role games kinda superior to Battle Royale in this storytelling regard (at least in my opinion), is the cool-off period at the end of a game, where everyone is allowed to drop character and talk to each other freely. At which point players get to compare their stories, and realise what other hi-jinks were going on in the match that they simply weren't present for. Or what things they straight-up missed because of inattention or assumption. Battle Royale doesn't really have that. Most enemy players are strangers, who leave the match once they die. So you rarely, if ever, get to hear their side of the story. You don't get to hear their perspective, to provide that last bit of context to your own struggle.

  • @jacobm92
    @jacobm92 Před 5 měsíci

    that paranoia feeling youre talking about during the quiet traveling moments is exactly what got me hooked on Escape From Tarkov. Maybe check that game out?

  • @user-fxw6k7Da4
    @user-fxw6k7Da4 Před 2 měsíci +2

    It was a laggy and buggy non-optimized mess but i played PUBG extensively in 2018. I still play it from time to time and it's just not the same. They keep adding shit to the game. I want that old true BR experience back.

  • @Lenitas
    @Lenitas Před 6 měsíci +34

    At one point playing PUBG I finally got why people like horror games. No game before or since has made me feel that same tension. As someone who was terrible at PUBG this is video 100% hit how I felt about it.
    I honestly think the split between heterogeneity and homogeneity mentioned in this video is something that happens a lot. Another large example it reminds me of is the "loudness war" in music. And I see similar things cropping up in many places. All highs no lows, always full energy, not space for contrast that really makes it hit.

    • @PoopShitz
      @PoopShitz Před 6 měsíci +1

      DayZ would have the same effect on me: deep inland after 30min and not wanting to use my headlamp while clearing a quiet neighborhood only to hear frantic footsteps outside while my heart begins pumping

  • @davidwright8094
    @davidwright8094 Před 6 měsíci +15

    I was someone who got into the game because of my friends before it really blew up on streaming. You talking about how quiet and methodical the game was brought back a lot of memories of how the game would go from us just talking about random shit to all of us freaking out when shit hit the fan. Before your video I definitely had that similar negative connotation with the game, so thanks for resurfacing some of those old memories to remind me of the good times we had.

  • @Xanderfied
    @Xanderfied Před 10 dny

    Mirmar was always my favorite map, yet finding a match there took forever. I started playing Pubg about 3 months before Mirmar released. Maybe thats why I liked it so much. Sonhak made you paranoid as hell to move, the cover was everywhere, and you couldnt move without seeing 2 or 3 people all gunning for you

  • @ServerYT
    @ServerYT Před 4 měsíci +1

    what killed pubg was taking the ability to choose the map (or at least the map size) that you want to play, leaving you unable to choose which version of pubg you want to play.
    Also taking a bullet and not having a damage indicator is pretty shitty, but that's neither here nor there.

  • @phyein4815
    @phyein4815 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Man I feel you 100 percent. Pretty much every point you made described my love of the game back then as well. I was one of those guys that hated hot dropping and found my own favorite spots, where I could loot relatively peacefully but still had to be alert. The atmosphere of it all, running across a huge quiet landscape, hearing shots farr of in the distance but seeing nobody, constantly scanning for a moving speck, heart pounding moments of searching buildings only to hear footsteps, and best of all, still actually having a chance at finding like minded players as well as winning once in long while. Those quiet, slow stretches WERE the game for me. It seemed like nearly overnight lonely sporadic gunfights in the middle of nowhere stopped happening and I got terrible for some reason, when really the core philosophy and playerbase was rapidly changing. Less and less people were spreading out and more and more were just hot dropping and dominating.
    Miramar was amazing as well and my favorite.

  • @oakenmethod
    @oakenmethod Před 6 měsíci +33

    I have never played a battle royale game, and I've probably consumed less than 2 hours total of content about the genre as a whole. That said I really enjoy your thoughtful approach in your videos. It reminds me of my own inner voice when I am being the most open-minded to new perspectives. I am not anymore interested in battle royales after having watched this, but it's always a nice time being able to step away from whatever else I have going on and hear some well laid-out thoughts.

  • @heiner1504
    @heiner1504 Před 3 měsíci

    Fantastic piece, enjoyed every second of it.

  • @n10tkey1
    @n10tkey1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The reason I stopped playing this game was purely because how annoying it was to be killed over and over again by some sweaty guy who didn't even care about tactics, he would just run around a trickshot me into oblivion. Ain't no way I'm wasting another 20 minutes getting loot, only to get killed like this. Horribly anticlimactic.

  • @Ireee702
    @Ireee702 Před 5 měsíci +234

    The reason why I loved PUBG so much it's because I could chat with a friend, and also sometimes random squad teammates.
    The amount of "dead" time this game has made it feel like you're in an actual war. You're just marching with your teammates, talking to them, and moving and moving.
    But as soon as you hear gunshots, the game gets insanely intense. The tension of being able to die in just a couple seconds after being like 10 minutes of just looting and driving makes it feel so rewarding when you survive, and your teammates also survive.
    This doesn't happen with games like cod because it's so frenzy, the action never ends. So your brain is just too busy on fighting. So there's no time to chill and talk with your buddies

    • @majorpaintx
      @majorpaintx Před 5 měsíci +32

      One of my favorite parts of this game was the random chats, and not only with friends and squadmates, but even enemies.
      Sure a lot of it was just trash talk, but every now and then there would be that conversation you have with an enemy in the building next to you.
      Probably my most memorable moment of this game was playing duos with my buddy. We see another squad in a house so we stack up and get ready to breach, but then we hear him talking about how he's afraid his gf is cheating on him. I then speak up and tell him I heard what was going on, we felt sorry for him, and so we made a truce where me and my buddy just walked away. I'll never know what happened to that guy, in the game or irl, but I wish him the best.

    • @newjersey973
      @newjersey973 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@majorpaintx she was definitely cheating

    • @augustokonrad3572
      @augustokonrad3572 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Funny how you compare the game to a "war" because it did start as an Arma 3 mod. And Arma is just like that, move for minutes without action, talking with teamates, scanning the horizon until action starts and you know one wrong move might get you killed.

    • @kanroji6447
      @kanroji6447 Před 5 měsíci +2

      glazing pubg so hard

    • @supra_enjoyer
      @supra_enjoyer Před 5 měsíci +2

      Is there even a game that allows this nowadays? I think I tried every single multiplayer and it all seems so dopamine-centered, constant rushing at 100mph, shooting 50 bullets per second, dying and respawning - rinse repeat. I just switched back to tactical shooters, because while there is not much time to talk or fuck around at least there's no bullshit and I'm playing competitively taking turns focusing for a minute when I play and chilling for a minute after I am dead.
      I'd probably say Tarkov, but the thing with Tarkov is that it's hardly playable after a month into the wipe and also there are so many cheaters that it's just *sigh*

  • @Android_ELITE
    @Android_ELITE Před 6 měsíci +20

    honestly the best new thing they added (specifically for me) was the tutorial bot matches. when I logged back in for the first time in years, it locked me out of regular matches until I completed the new player objectives against bots. as someone who loves casual PvE experiences, those bot matches were honestly some of the most fun I ever had playing the game. I have no idea why they then remove those matches once you finish the tutorial period and replace them with the hybrid bot/player games. I’d literally pay for a dlc that added it in as a permanent mode.

  • @tlaugeness
    @tlaugeness Před 4 měsíci

    I agree with everything and very well done by the way.
    That being said, I have been playing the game for 6 years and sucked in the beginning, still sucked a couple years later even through I would win the occasional Dinner but I still played because I loved the game and still do very much. It relaxes me and scares me at the same time. Today with close to a thousand wins I still run into people that are much better than me and I get wasted, but that motivates me to play that much better the next game.
    As for the evolution of the game I agree the golden age was the first couple years of its release but as it evolved so did I. You need to improvise, adapt and overcome!

  • @taymanffb
    @taymanffb Před 3 měsíci

    Chef's kiss of a video. Well done.

  • @FayeHunter
    @FayeHunter Před 6 měsíci +15

    I miss Northernlion and Dan Gheesling and co yelling C DOT.... good days .. bad days .. fun content .. ahh.. thank you for another video on a rainy Sunday, Judge.

  • @yaskobg5656
    @yaskobg5656 Před 5 měsíci +55

    "The two most famous bridges and not only because of the incident."

  • @MacNifty
    @MacNifty Před 2 měsíci

    Bro, you explain in the first quarter of your video so well.Why we like this game or why I do I agree totally with you with the moments of silence and that it is one of the best horror games.

  • @mickfear
    @mickfear Před 3 měsíci

    This feels like a documentary! The writer is amazing!! Well done.

  • @codmfan9217
    @codmfan9217 Před 5 měsíci +38

    When he said "player unknown battleground is a game very close to my heart, it's dead now" I felt that in my heart

  • @insertdead
    @insertdead Před 6 měsíci +22

    Very well made video. I was very interested despite the topic being something i frankly do not care about. Also great music choice, though maybe i only just noticed it cos i dont usually wear headphones when watching your videos, but I feel the music complemented the video very well this time. ron says hi

  • @dotdot5906
    @dotdot5906 Před 4 měsíci

    I remember when mobile pubg had a gamemode where every several minutes a snow storm started and you had to sit with your bros around a campfire. There were also chickens to catch and roast and drones to launch. It was atmospheric af and im pretty sure they never brought it back

  • @bdotstanley
    @bdotstanley Před 3 dny

    This is such a good video, and your theory between the design of the game and the popularity of the aggressive streamer playstyle is true and very interesting. What is hilarious about all of it though is that this could have been fixed by allowing players to choose what maps to queue for; PUBG rarely, if not ever, offered this option.

  • @thecluckster3908
    @thecluckster3908 Před 6 měsíci +55

    When it comes to making games, developers should remmeber 2 things, make sure you’re not listening to the vocal minority and also make sure you’re only taking the feedback that would help improve the game you want to make.

    • @icebite9888
      @icebite9888 Před 5 měsíci +2

      That's just dead wrong. As a company you need to know how to filter ANY feedback through the intended view of your game. Saying "don't listen to the vocal minority" is just as wrong as saying "do everything they want". Some ideas might be good, some might be bad.
      The problem with pubg is that they listened to the wrong part of their playerbase that fundamentally plays their game in a completely different way than intended: the asians. Play a game of Korean Ranked pubg, and you'll see what i mean. The asian playerbase doesn't play the game at all, they drop in one single location and duke it out like a TDM with no respawns.
      But it was on the developer to see that any feedback given from a group not playing the game as it was designed to be should not have been listened to. And they're not the vocal minority in this case, the american and european players are. And those regions have been VERY vocal about their grievances with the changes, but have simply been ignored because we're the minority.

  • @plastiquemonk
    @plastiquemonk Před 6 měsíci +38

    ive never seen someone so casually and coldly put down a dunkey critique (at 2:20 for those who are curious) without even acknowledging them by name, and also be 100% right about it
    on a side note, ive played pubg since 2017, stuck with it all these years, and this video hits everything right on the nose

    • @saber2802
      @saber2802 Před 6 měsíci +4

      That's also the reason why I don't watch Dunkey

    • @XRagnarookieX
      @XRagnarookieX Před 6 měsíci +1

      Ever since the guy justified his behaviour of wishing dead to someone in some of the most horrendous way possible was the day I could no longer watch him.

    • @ultimaxkom8728
      @ultimaxkom8728 Před 6 měsíci +4

      It's a high-level play, as _"hilarity by punching down"_ requires the *[Comedian Class]* and *[Joker Deniability]* skill, which waives off any mockery regardless of its influence.

    • @plastiquemonk
      @plastiquemonk Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@XRagnarookieX ngl i have no idea what ur referencing and i couldn't find anything online can u elaborate

    • @XRagnarookieX
      @XRagnarookieX Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@plastiquemonkHis "I'm done with league of legends." Pretty much the first minute he elaborates how it was justified. I am not gonna repeat it here.

  • @liamburke8225
    @liamburke8225 Před 4 měsíci

    i used to love pubg when it first came out, and a lot of what you said i totally agree with. i never dropped school and never wanted it to be a cod map. i used to drop around the edge and i absolutely hated sanhok. i thought the problem was fortnite. every game released around the same time was trying so hard to keep up. i did play fortnite when it was vanilla and it was about shooting and not building. then all the kids got a hold of it and it got ruined. ive been thinking recently about going back to pubg but after watching this i really don’t think it’s a possibility tbh. great video though i really enjoyed it man. 👏🏻

  • @rubikmonat6589
    @rubikmonat6589 Před 5 měsíci

    Absolutely nailed it. I played sanhok twice, then never opened the game again. I never knew why until now.

  • @middy5284
    @middy5284 Před 6 měsíci +10

    now its called PUBG: Battlegrounds ( “Player Unknown’s Battlegrounds: Battlegrounds”)
    why did they do that?

  • @rogercls
    @rogercls Před 6 měsíci +208

    This video is impressive. One of the best game analysis I've seen. I love PUBG, but never had the opportunity to play the main game. Instead, I played a lot of Mobile and Lite. Even so, I experienced the same feeling you described.
    It seems the greatest sin of developers was not realizing they had something great but different from the competition. Instead of doubling down on that difference, they copied the competition, resulting in a weak game overall.
    There are a few games that I really enjoyed. PUBG was definitely one of them. Great to remember why with this video

    • @icebite9888
      @icebite9888 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Best game analysis you've ever seen? it's a personal bias mouthpiece, very minute aspects of this video can be considered analytical, and more than half the takes are straight up wrong. There's a lot wrong with PUBG, and some of them were brought up in this video, but for the wrong reasons.

    • @Ghstkng123
      @Ghstkng123 Před 5 měsíci +14

      ​@@icebite9888well, tell us what's wrong with the video then, instead of leaving brain dead comments like this without telling us why.

    • @icebite9888
      @icebite9888 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Ghstkng123 maybe learn how to communicate without immediately throwing insults first.

    • @Ghstkng123
      @Ghstkng123 Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@icebite9888 you still havent answer my question

    • @lukky6648
      @lukky6648 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@icebite9888 how so? He presented his opinions , explained why he felt such way and even gave us an idea of what he's trying to convey.

  • @DIRECTEDBYH
    @DIRECTEDBYH Před 2 měsíci +1

    If you are tired of gaming, buy yourself a quest 2 (if you have PCVR capable headset)
    and buy Ghosts of Tabor for this feeling but with 10 times more immersion

  • @justinsantiago5030
    @justinsantiago5030 Před 4 měsíci

    nice vid bro i still play pubg, only fpp solos cuz no pone plays but i still love those silent moments and crazy tension.
    everything you said is true but i will continue to play to i can not

  • @m97x51
    @m97x51 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Oh shoot, knowing that video games essayist is on Nebula legit tempts me to go there

  • @zainiftekhar
    @zainiftekhar Před 6 měsíci +8

    For me, PUBG was fun because of the friends I made along the way. We used to play together all the time and waited for each friend to join us every day before starting. We had so much fun together and would not start any match if one of us was absent. The talks and jokes in between the matches are something I miss to this day. We never cared if we died early or late. Starting over was always an option. I miss PUBG's golden era. No other game will ever replace those fun moments in PUBG with my friends I had.

  • @AbhishekKumar-gr7iz
    @AbhishekKumar-gr7iz Před 5 měsíci

    In the beginning of video i was like what is he talking about it's very obvious stuff but at the end it became more clear how maps and rush mechanism became biggest factors for it's fall. Good video.

  • @cannedcoochiebread
    @cannedcoochiebread Před 4 měsíci +1

    Balancing an competitive video game completely according to steam reviews and feedback, is like putting gasoline to the fire with a bit of flowers in between