Replayable vs. Unreplayable Games
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- čas přidán 24. 12. 2023
- *This video contains very tiny spoilers for Return of the Obra Dinn and Outer Wilds*
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Resident Evil OST - Sigh of Relief
Lud and Schlatt's Musical Emporium - 2PM - ► CC BY 3.0
TLOZ Twilight Princess OST - Ordon Village
Resident Evil 4 OST - Serenity
TLOZ Skyward Sword OST - Skyloft
Outer Wilds OST by Andrew Prahlow - Timber Hearth, Space - Hry
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Edit: 2k now. Only up from here. Also if you're wondering if I changed the title, I did. I thought it better suits the structure of the video.
2k by new years?
Much appreciated, good lad
you should try out oneshot
Actually, 2k+
@@Skycatz Should also try Morrowind.
Outer Wilds is a great example of how a rather short game with 0 fluff and replayability can be better than any huge AAA project. Literally the best gaming experience of my life.
My goodness, I almost thought you said Outer *WORLDS*
I played outer worlds thinking it was outer Wilds saying what’s all the hype about, almost missed out on the experience
@@Joe-my6go right? Hate the fact Outer WORLDS exists, I feel like a lot of people make this mistake or have missed out on the game, because of the name.
I wouldn’t say outer wilds is that repayable as it’s easy to finish in like 20 minutes once you’ve figured out all the puzzles in your first playthrough and it doesn’t hit the same on subsequent playthroughs. Great game though.
@@randomchicken8404 I said that it had 0 replayability.
My dad played all of resident evil 7 vr until the end boss without sprinting not because of a challenge but because he didn’t know he could sprint as he unbinded the button by accident lol. He spend hours in the final boss walking and getting soft locked until he finally found a video about the fight and his face when he realised he could sprint this entire time was priceless.
that sounds both hilarious and rage inducing
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Bro would be super mad if he unlocked the walking shoes. An item that ware to boost how he always played is ultimately useless if you just press one button and don't get hit
@@buckyhurdle4776- so true
Really enjoyed this video essay. Keep it up 😶🌫
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what defines a game's quality isn't how replayable/unreplayable it is, what actually defines it's quality is how much you replay your experience in your head.
Exactly right.
Basically how memorable it is. But replay ability can help with that although it’s not a sole factor
I don't think these are opposites. Because if it doesn't have any replayability then I won't bother replaying the experience in my head either.
@@pandaman1331 replayability helps but isnt a sole factor imo
Perfectly said
Outer wilds always had an infinite amount of a different kind of replay value to me, because even 2 years after playing it, it still fascinated my brain, and i think about it multiple times a day. A game that can do that has more replay value any huge rpg.
Very true. Playtime wasn't very long, but it kept replaying in my mind a long time after.
honestly another source of replay value for outer wilds is to just fly around and chill out and shit
i open outer wilds frequently usually just to dick around with the game and find little quirks and bugs with the physics or see how quickly i can fill out the flight log
Low standards. Also wanting to play a game again is not replay value.
I love outer wilds but i dont see where the replayavility in it, it's a mystery and once you know the secrets of that universe you know the mystery.
Outer Wilds is a great example of the kind of game which you willingly have a shady doctor in a back alley whose office is hidden behind a dumpster and 7 locks on their door intentionally induce severe amnesia to forget about outer wilds just to play it again
where's this back alley? asking for myself.
Where is this man? Asking for a friend. And his friend. And me.
Then you have to remember somehow to go play it.
@@aarepelaa1142 tattoo "PLAY OUTER WILDS" on your face before the amnesia treatment
I think if you do enough drugs you can have the same effect of wiping your memory off but I'm not sure whether you will be able to move the character
TellTale games are an example of Unreplayable Replayable games.
The stories end the exact same way every time, no matter what you do, with only menial differences. However, they're still a blast to go through purely because of how many possible dialogue branches you can go through.
Telltale games is a big scam, this is coming from telltale lovers that already played nearly all of their games
They knew all of their games doesn't have meaning choices, literally everything leads to the same conclusion, even their "different endings" like in Walking Dead S2 is a scam because it doesn't matter, prologue for Walking Dead S3 makes that different ending obsolete
compared to other choice driven games like Detroit where you can accidentally kill your main character, your playtrough and other playtrough can have literally different story, etc.
I still loves telltales games and still waiting for wolf among us s2, but this is just my critism. and yeah, like you said, their game has no replayability at all, of course you can replay it if you already forgot all of the story, but if you just finished the game, there's absolutely no reason why you would replay it again immediately (except if you're achievement hunter)
the long cutscenes kill the replayability for me, i rlly like how ghost of tshushima new game+ alows cutscene skip same with tlou2 makes it much more replayable
the said games are "meh"
Telltale could never afford to make the games anything like Supermassive games their budget was too low but they made up for the illusion of choice by making a good story and became successful because people enjoyed watching others reactions to the story in playthroughs, there was only ever a handful of choices that actually mattered or changed things not enough to grant a second or third playthrough and so on
@@soundrogue4472I've only ever seen TWD and Wolf Among us which were definitely better than just "meh" the only issue with TWD was season 3 was essentially a filler storyline and season 2 suffered from a strike that was happening at the time
What kind of burgers are you eating that have breadcrumbs in them
Bread Burger
i was thinking this exact same thing 😂
If you put breadcrumbs in your burger patty it keeps it together better especially if u freeze them for half an hour before you cook them on the grill, trust
I make mine out of beef
Quality over quantity. I think replayable games are the best ones, even if they have only like 10 hours worth of gameplay. I remember replaying Arkham Asylum back in the day around 20 times at least. I think the games that make you come back for more even after beating them, are the best ones.
Agreed.
Arkham Asylum was one of the only games i ever frequently replayed back in the day
god of war 2018 and ragnarök i have about 800 hours in both games combined, having played through them 8 or 9 times
Any hack'n'slash to me, Bayonetta and Devil May Cry have a lot of replayability value to me.
I’d rather have no replayability and a great game than some replayability and a mediocre game
For me this type of game would be Deep Rock Galactic, the sheer amount of builds you could use, cave generations you can play in and enemy/mutator compositions is just incredible. At the time of writing this comment i have around a 1500 hours and is not even close to getting boring. ( Additionally the community of DRG is so friendly i just dont want to stop )
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Played through the Halo games (Bungie's) hundreds of times each simply because the moment to moment gameplay is so engaging and unique. Good, fun gameplay is all you really need to be replayable.
Grew up on halo but now I can barely play it since I played it so much
halo 4 was the first one i played, its far from the best but beating it for the first time on legendary was something else
I find it soo interesting that you brought up little nightmares as a game you had no will to replay because personally I have played both games multiple times, really shows that people have different ticks
Yeah I’ve played little nightmares 1 and 2 SO MANY TIMES it’s actually insane
Arkham Knight and City are the games I've replayed the most. Just can't get enough of the stealth and fighting in those games, definately some of the best ever!
Spider-Man, Battlefront 2, The Arkham games. The most I replay any game.
Same. Dumped hundreds of hours in those games; and getting to add skins on PC made them even more replayable
Arkham, Spider-Man, and rockstar games like red dead 1/2 for me.
Same
@@OreganoParsleyBro Marvel's Spider-Man is a game i completed 100% at least 8 to 9 times, and i've played that game 18 times
Rdr2 is a game i've played multiple playthroughs (i probably played the game 16 times) and i almost completed 100% a few times, but u hate sime of the side content.
I've replayed every uncharted game so many times that I've memorised the conversations in every cutscene.
I love that saga.
same hahaha
Same. Except 1, that game isn’t very fun.
@@SaberRexZealot specially the jet ski part, that part gave me dark souls type of frustration the first time I played it. Everything else is fine for me.
when uncharted 4 released i played The Nathan Drake Collection then finished my marathon with uncharted 4 what a saga i couldn't play any Single-player game after it for 6 months
+ i hate people who don't play the first game
@@MegaOzmozdude the first game is good for a playthrough but wouldnt wanna replay it as much as the other 3
I love the phrase you used "all of the discoveries I made were my own", it is really true, I felt so connected with these worlds that I didnt even realize that even tho these discoveries were scripted and the way to use the knowledge too they felt so real and made so much sense! so much detail and it feels like you are truly free even tho you are not
The Outer Wilds is my favorite game of all time, hands down. It randomly pops into my head and I hear the music. Can, and sometimes does, bring me to tears.
I randomly played it after seeing it was leaving game pass a few years ago and figured "why not?" and then I spent the next week playing ONLY that game.
If I could wipe my memory and play that game with a fresh mind, I would. 1000% yes. I could have spent $500 and it would have been worth it. That game is the best of the best and I genuinely don't see anything topping that experience, ever.
a perfect example of a really re-playable game for me is subnautica, i always seem to be drawn back to it because of how much is kept intentionally mysterious and unknown, i think outer wilds is similar in that. also amazing video :)
subnautica for me was always only halfway replayable.
with every new save i would pick a new spot somewhere on the ocean floor to make a base and challenge myself with the different environments, but once you get underground it becomes very samey.
for me, subnautica is only replayable in the early and midgame.
@@topnotchindeed1536 Exactly this. The early and mid-game are unique, as you are exploring environments, finding life pods and degasi bases. Having your hope lost by seeing the sunbeam explode. The late game though, that is where it slows down a ton. Specifically when you get to the sea emperor. Having to backtrack and find all those tedious herbs is very annoying the first time, and every other time it just becomes an annoying thing to remember to bring with you. Getting yourself cured and going to the GUN is fun, but that is where it stops for me. Having to find all the recourses to make the rocket after all that is very annoying, and this is the point I usually end my runs. Perhaps a multiplayer mode would make it more fun, because then you can operate the cyclops the way it was intended and explore together, which would be fun to do.
idk man i found the game very boring after like 10 or so hours when i realized there was no real end goal and you couldnt even fight stuff. playing the game for the first time was real fun though but i just wish there was more to do
@@kouriier6112 the game literally has an ending. the game definitely has an end goal. theres a whole plot.
the fighting thing i can understand, but subnautica just isnt that type of game. the whole theme is meant to build off fear and helplessness. you are a small very tasty man in a big ocean of very hungry fish
Subnautica is awesome
The Metro Series is definitely something I'd love to experience again, can't wait for the new game to release sometime soon.
Deep Silver announced a fourth game?
There’s another one coming?!
@@JingMitsuyamaCH its in a playable state!! look it up, we may be seeing it at gamescom in july :)
I'm pretty sure it's mentioned on the devs' website
Huh when did they announce another one
the quarry is one of these games for me. its not a perfect game by any means, but I was so captivated by the story and the way it functions means there is so much to replay. I've already replayed it so much not only to beat the achievement but to find new ways to tell the story or find things I missed. its so great. love the video!
This is an incredibly well articulated, grounded, and true take! Well done Tihshoo. This video was entertaining, but truthful. Funny, yet engaging. Easy sub, keep up the excellent work.
Before I watch the video, I want to say that the beauty of replaying a game is like watching a movie or re-reading a book. You get to notice things you didn't notice before and try different playstyles that you didnt before. In the process you would ideally understand why like a game or hate it.
God I love Obra Dinn so much. It was so so much fun and it made me so happy. Lucas Pope understands something so intrinsic about games even when he makes them on his own, it's amazing. Massive accomplishment on his part 💕
If you liked Return of the Obra Dinn, you should check out The Case of the Golden Idol. Very similar game that I personally like just as much. Wish I could experience both of them again for the first time lol
can’t believe you didn’t mention portal 2, it’s the perfect mix of not replay able at all but also so incredibly replay able because all you have to do is wait long enough between playthroughs that you don’t remember how to solve the puzzles again. then the story is compelling yet simple enough to be enjoyed every time. I have played portal 2 proabably 6 or 7 times because each time i waited several years to play it again and it was almost as new as the very first time i played it. Truly a perfect video game in my eyes
Breadcrumbs and eggs inside a burger? My brother in christ you were eating a meatloaf sandwich not a hamburger.
I love eggs bacon ham sausage beef burgers yum 😂
I was thinking why this video was recommended to me. I don't even like replaying games. Then you mentioned Outer Wilds and Return if the Obra Dinn 😄 For this type of games, I found that watching blind playthroughs is their version of replayability. I never watched people play games before, but I have now watched literal dozens of Outer Wilds playthrough 😆 You'd be surprised how thrilling when the player is about discover or realize something and how much you can learn/discover more about the game.
I LOVE doing that as well ^^ That's one of my favourite (and first XD) things to do after I finish a game that feels really special to me, I seek out and watch a ton of playthroughs on CZcams and watch my favourite parts (or just the whole playthrough, sometimes, like with Half-Life 1 and 2, with Mapocolops!)
And I love getting super excited WITH those people again, as if we're kind of experiencing the game blind together, in a way, or I'm watching them play through it for the first time (which I guess is true XD)!
But so I totally getcha, 100%! ^^
Perhaps call it "vicarious replayability".
I think that The Beginner's Guide ties together the "one time experience" and the "I want to replay it again" experience in a great way because of how the game's ending changes your whole view.
100%
seeing the credits roll on outer wilds was extremely heart breaking, i started crying because i realized i could never experience the game the same way again.
what a well structured video! sometimes when i finish playing a game that i really liked, i perform a self lobotomy on the temporal lobe of my brain just so i can experience it again!
so relatable😭😭😭😭
You put it perfectly- there's a ton of games I've played over my time growing up and sprinkling into my ever growing roster, but there is only a handful I get that 'I would do anything to play that for the first time'. Subnautica, Borderlands 2, and the first Telltale TWD game were those for me. The idea of discovery, and how it resonates in these sorts of games for me, is almost palpable. Its such a great feeling, and I love how you described it. :) Awesome job dude.
Deltarune Chapter 2 was a game I KNEW I would never get back, and I took my sweet time with it and enjoyed about every bit of it
That was my best blind gaming experience ever
Great video! Funny enough, I've wanted to see a video on this exact topic for a while now, and even thought about making one back then. Very glad to see you were able to deliver this with such great personality, structure, and pacing. Also, you've got really great taste in video games. Hope to see more in the future on other interesting topics
Great Video Tihshoo! Greatly structured and nicely edited! Hope to see more and cheers from Bulgaria
One game that I wish I could experience all over again is Control. The worldbuilding and art design hooked me and drove me to learn about and explore the lore. Control has limited replayability, but that's fine. It was a phenomenal one-and-done experience.
The one part I want to replay the most for the first time is the Ash Tray Maze
@@carlosjosephgomez1495 Same here. That maze with song is dope af.
If you haven't played it yet, i really suggest Returnal
This was a super good video! I liked the way the script was written and your ideas were presented, and the concept was super cool to boot. Keep up the good work!
Learned about Returd from this video, absolute banger of a game. And good vid!
This guys gonna make it far, this content is clean, comentary and arguments are sound, its nice.
I haven't got round to playing it, but Chants of Senaar seems like another one of those knowledge-driven games. I'd recommend checking that out if you're looking for another Outer Wilds/Return of the Obra Dinn experience, cause it's on the top of my wishlist.
Strong agree, Its not replayable
I like to replay Dishonored games a lot the game offers so a lot of content even though the campaign is not that long and the fact that you can approach any missions in different ways is what really makes me keep replaying it.
great, well putted thought on the topic. the quality of the video as a whole (montage, structure, script, rofls, etc.) is on such high level, that I didn't expect such level of production from a "small" youtuber. keep going dude!
skylanders giants is the game i replay the most, i love the story (despite how simple it is) and each level has something unique about it. there's also a lot of collectables and bonus content, and a lot of characters you can play around with to level up and to experience each fight in a different way thanks to their different attacks. ive even started speedrunning it, which im surprised you didnt bring up as a factor in replayability- if the controls handle well and there are multiple ways to get through each area, there tends to be a huge community of people who do speedruns and challenges within the game (though popularity and length of the game in general is also a factor)
I absolutely loved this video. Only after did I notice how small your channel was. Amazing video for a channel that is your size!
Amazing video! popped up in my recommended and until the end I thought I was watching a massive youtube channel only to find out you have < 1000 subs (which is a really big compliment). I'm staying for more content from you.
No clue why you showed up on my recommended tab, but I’m here for it! Great content 💙
Hell yeah I crave for something like Outer Wilds. I have been blown away by the sense of discovery, learning. It's so good.
I think this is actually my problem with TotK. I have so many hours in BotW, I've replayed it so many times, but upon beating TotK, I didn't feel any urge to replay it. There was nothing that I wanted to do after I beat the game. It just felt so empty.
Same here. It’s so weird because I thought I’d be playing it as much as botw if not more
I think most people would have if it came out first, but most people have already seen every square inch of the world so the desire to explore just isn’t there for the most part
BoTW’s world has a magic that Tears just didn’t recapture for me.
@@cato3277yes, totk did not live up to what botw set up for me. It was amazing, sure, but botw was amazing aswell and surely a sequel to one of the best open world games should have more to offer, go even further. Not this, excess of shrines, excess of copy paste islands, boring one biome underworld and the stupid story telling method of encasing the whole plot in a box that you can only peer into through a window rather than engage in all of those memories. There’s just such an excess of things to do that I can’t imagine i’d ever want to do it again. Hell, the game repeats itself so much in exploration that just exploring the game itself is as though you’re replaying sections due to how similar they can get. If a majority of the game was in the sky rather than the reused map, I’d like it a lot more, its such a backwards way of designing a game to blow through the best sky island immediately in the tutorial and forget about the sky afterwards. and to hell with the whole underworld, what a lazy way of padding out the game, and misuse of material and effort.
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Despite the visuals being well made, this script feels less like an essay and more like listening to someone go on a tangent. I don't even think you answered your own question of "why does replay value matter?"
Thanks for this. I thought I was going crazy listening to this for a second.
Thanks for the comment. Title has been changed to better suit the structure of the video after I saw some reception.
This vid is actually so well done, well said, edited nicely, GG bro. Couldn’t agree more
just beat outer wilds for the first time today, started it a couple days ago, and WOW. im the type of person to 100 percent a game, so exploring the whole universe and finding all the logs/story was awesome. The whole ending sequence gave me chills, music and all. hoping the DLC is just as good. Loved this video as well
2 of my favourite games that are replayable and unreplayable are Terraria and The Witness. Terraria I have sunk about 800 hours into with content updates, modded playthroughs and challenge runs with or without friends. The Witness was a great experience that I thoroughly enjoyed every part of and I didn’t spoil myself on anything (almost, I looked up a hint once lol). I still seriously recommend picking up both for a fun singleplayer and co-op game and one for a wonderful singleplayer discovery journey that you can turn into co-op by streaming it to friends in discord. Great video :3
Saw the title and knew I'd need to leave a comment! Great video, you really start to get at the heart of what makes a game "replayable"- the mechanics need to be fun to engage with, and needs to have multiple ways of going about tackling it's challenges. I literally paid 89 cents for Downwell on steam, and I have 40 hours in it- Ito took many runs for me to clear, and I have still gone back and played again just because the game is fun. Roguelike mechanics can be hit or miss, but a well-crafted Roguelike can be incredibly simple as long as it has solid mechanics.
PS: The game I wish I could play again for the first time is Persona 3. You just can't experience a story for the first time twice, but if I could, it would be Persona 3.
Every time someone gushes about Persona, all I can think is "how the hell does anyone put up with all of these insufferable characters in a game that actively punishes the player for not engaging with their bullshit?"
Love me video essays and I especially love finding amazing ones that grab my attention right away ❤ so happy to subscribe and binge your videos 🎉 also you got a good voice for essays like this
This is a nice video. Normally on these type of videos I watch about half way through and click off, but this one just hits different and I want to watch more. W video.
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999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors on the DS is that game for me. I've waited 14 years trying to forget enough of it so that I could reasonably replay it and... I just can't. It's seared into my brain like it was done with a branding iron and perhaps it always will be.
I loved this video! I can tell you put effort into this content. You earned a new subscriber :)
One thing that I experienced is the annoyance of wanting to replay a game but being held back by things such as unskippable tutorials, cutscenes or progress locked mechanics. One game that comes to mind is Monster Hunter World, which I loved playing and most certainly want to play through again, but having to watch the whole introduction sequence and follow the tedious tutorials keeps me from doing it. I think developers should account for replayability in these scenarios, but maybe I'm just nitpicking at this point lol. Keep up the good work boss
For me such games are the psychonauts series. I played first one in 2021, enjoyed it, 100% it, deleted. Then I played the second one. While there are some rough parts, it's a great sequel and I had lots of fun in the process. But after I 100%-ed the game and talked to everyone my first thought was "yeah, now there's nothing more for me, I've seen everything this game has to offer" which was such a unique feeling cause I usually say to myself something like "okay, I finished it, what's the next one". This bittersweet moment when you pulled everything from the game, every piece of content really makes me want to wipe my memory.
And as for "forces bread crumbs" is The Lion's song. I love the game so much but the gameplay is very slow to give you time to feel the atmosphere, which damages replayability, since although your choices matter sooooo much, you usually feel stuck in linearity between those choices and you need to sit through it. I would say, the second playthrough was a pleasant experience to see other potions but achievement grind is a total disaster.
Great video I love these types of videos you got a sub 100% keep up the good work!
This is a good ass video. It’s insane how good the production value of small youtubers has gotten.
enter the gungeon and TF2 mentioned. Goated taste
and celeste too 😩 The one game I would wipe my memory to play again is far cry 3
Initial reception is great to have but you need someone to be able to go back through multiple times and still have a refreshed experience. It's why I LOVED RE4 Remake's replayability, you could do a lot of things much like in RE7 but there was A LOT more to do that didn't just feel like "just one more stupid challenge to get 100%"
Amazing video! I loved the cult classics you showed!
I fullheartedly agree with the idea of "knowledge-driven" games being an amazing experience. Besides Outer Wilds and Obra Dinn, I'd recommend anyone to try OneShot and Tunic as they it right into that description.
On a side note though, loved this video I like your editting style (expesially the visual aids).
I love Kingdom Hearts, even now after 20 years of playing it.... but man, do I wish I could experience that game for the first time again
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Bro keep doing what you’re doing! Loving it!
great great work in this video man, really love it!!!
One of the games that I feel like I couldn't fully complete, was Omori. It felt like the final ending I got was so satisfying that I really didn't want to restart it again, all that time connecting with the characters and helping deal with Omori's struggles made it feel like, I'd do something wrong if I where to reset everything.
While silly in retrospect these are just characters in a video game after all, it shows how a game can be unreplayable even with the fact how there's a lot of things to "finish" per say.
An ending so satisfying you don't want to play anymore, and feel like it will taint the original run sorta unreplayanlity.
Exactly how I felt. I know there is tons of content in the omori-route, but I don't care. This game depressed the sh%& out of me, I got the good ending, I'm fine. Undertale teached me a lesson on how i don't need to see everything lol.
this is me on bioware games, they allow you to "put down" / intentionally do accidental death your party, but it's hard to do with how well the characters are written, so i just kept being a good person and do their loyalty mission as they want to be, the final nail on the coffin with their save importing tech, if you have a dead party member that is crucial to the plot, someone will replace it, and it's probably for the worse or for the best, which you can also "put down" it aswell lol.
there is also 3 specific ways of playing the game that ends with your character getting offed, not allowing you to import the save into the next game, one is funny, one that might happen if you don't play the game the right way, one that if you do nothing, it gives you a pre-rendered cutscenes of the doomed future
Didn't play Omori but I have play(ed) Oneshot, so I know what is to want to play more but not being able. But on Oneshot, that is for the better I guess.
Honestly, the games that I have played more than once, in its single-player experience, is the mass effect saga, I really enjoyed doing the platinum and the variety of things that change depending on your decisions, since just to see what would happen if towards this and that I played the saga many times
I played through ME2 a lot in particular. I still think that game has the best companions to date
@@stephengrigg5988me2 slapped bur GODDAMNIT i wanted people to care a little more that i straight up died instead of the "hey shepard, youre alive... cool."
what a brilliantly put together video! I know you didnt ask us this, but you did mention that some people wish they could wipe their memory and play a game for the first time again. Experience it for the first time again. For me, its a game franchise rather than one specific game, and it's The Last Of Us, parts 1 and 2. Those are beautifully well put together games. The story in the last of us 1 and 2 are just so tragically beautiful. The way you see Joel slowly opening up to Ellie as you progress through the first game and become a father to her. The way you see Ellie still, deep down, loved Joel, even if he hurt her in the worst way she personally could imagine. I also really love the space flashback scene in the second game, as well as the guitar scene's in it. And the giraffe scene in the first game is just so damn beautiful
Wow it seems the CZcams algorithm has blessed you. Congratulations! Also this video was amazing to watch. Very groovy!
The dimension of strategy, like in R6 Siege, Age of Empires, Baldur's Gate 3, and the Paradox series I think creates the most replayability of any game
Yes
Strategy especially against unpredictable challenges creates interesting scenarios.
Good discussion of the topic, emphasizes the important parts of Replay Value without just saying 'infinite replay good xDDD'
Amazing video, your editing is incredible. Hope your channel grows
nice video, havent been watching that much of a great video for a while on that type of content
Still, to this day, the only game I ever finished and said "holy f*** I HAVE to play this again" is Ocarina of time. That game is easily the thing I wish I could forget and play again. The mirror mode too is something I wish devs would lean more into. What a gem that game is.
What is rhe mirror mode?
@@Noob-gb6bn the entire game is literally mirrored. Look it up. It's easier to understand by watching a video compared to an explanation lol
@@iSeeEZEkill thats actually awesome
@@Noob-gb6bn it truly was ❤
I get that feeling every time I finish a playthrough, start a new file... and immediately groan, turn off the N64, and walk away because I forgot about the unskippable cutscenes that start the game.
You are a fantastic writer. I watch a lot of gaming content, I mean a lot. This was one of the first videos I've seen of yours, but if you keep this up you'll easily be the next Joseph Anderson or Karl Jobst
What a cool video, definitely saving this one to rewatch it
It has been 3 months from upload but I appreciate you for the games you point or at least give a seconds even not talking. RE7 is such a perfect game I dunno how many times I watched or played. Outer wilds was a unique experience. Besides that I wanna touch the side of community/mod support. Imo It's top factor to make a game replayable with gameplay. For example, vanilla hearts of iron 4 is just a basic game that I can guess everything before, but with huge workshop catalogue same game becomes unpredictable and funny and I'm sure there is not much people that plays vanilla without mods more than 100h. To give a recent example, stardew valley 1.6 is released. At first I want play but ngl didn't have motivation for restart game. Then my friends just said go mod game and I did. My interest in game rerised and I started again(holy man sw expanded is huge mod). Finally I wanna say when I see Titanfall 2 clip I feel bad bc It was my favorite online shooter game and think has the most enjoying multiplayer but in time online just died.
Firewatch is one of my favorite games. It's linear, story based, so it doesn't have much gameplay or replayability, but the EXPERIENCE is what makes it so replayable to ME.
The soundtrack, the cheesy, pure dialogue, the visuals are just 10/10
just played it a few days ago, great game!
Game genuinely made me feel that fear and paranoia, also the fact that you build a bond with a person you never get to see..
Oneshot is one of the best games with no replay value I’ve seen. It’s a puzzle game with an amazing story, and the fourth wall breaks in it are amazing
So true, sadly i don't think I'll ever experience the final because it broke for me when playing in linux, and i feel like it would be too much of a chore to go back, amazing experience thom
Welp. I guess now the fourth wall breaks can't take me by surprise like they did you. So that sucks.
@@ronnieradon Don’t worry, the fourth wall is removed in the first five minutes of the game, so I didn’t spoil much
Love that CZcams recommended that to me. I loved Outer Wilds. Another example for the complete opposite type of game that is very replayable and that I love - Scarlet Hollow. I have about 20 different safe files there and I just replayed it two times this week after a year of forgetting about it. It's just that good. But yeah, replayable or unreplayable doesn't equal good, but I generally like if there's this urge to go back and explore more.
from my many years of both playing games and learning everything about games there are 2 guaranteed ways of knowing that your game is absolutely outstanding, the first is with a player playing the game again by either starting a new game or using new game+ signifying that the experience is something that they truly enjoyed and want to experience more of, the other is when a player simply says "fuck" and the world around them vanishes signifying that this is a once in a lifetime experience that they will not soon forget
I don't think linear games are bad as long as you have different options to play through the levels
the "one game id like to wipe my memory of and replay once again" for me would be abzu, the whole game can be played in less than an hour- but my first playthrough took me over 4 hours. i explored everything i could and during sad moments i stayed there and cried, its my favourite game of all time and having replayed it probably 5 times now whenever id show it to friends its still amazing, but nothing beats the first time i launched and finished it
Journey, it’s made by the same people
Mine would either be Skyrim or RDR2
I play the Metro games about every two years. I’m getting to the point where I remember all of the jumpscares and the parts I get stuck on. Just love them so much.
this vid even got replay value, i come back to this vid every couple months
Hate to be one trapped in 2011, but Skyrim would be that game that i always come back to. Either me doing a new or old build. Or creating a stupid backstory or rules for me to follow. I always seem to end up back on that carriage torwards what should be an ill awaited fate.
*Coughs in Morrowind*
I always come back to Skyrim after a few months, I really want to find a replacement but there are no games that give me the same excitement, I hope for TES 6
@@CoralCopperHead yeah get the ash out of your throat you n'wah
@@CoralCopperHead yeah especially with all the ash
"I think that every single person has at least one game they wish they could just wipe their memory, and play for the first time again." 10:03
This is a feeling that every person who has ever touched a "great" video game before can relate too.
Exactly. I love asking people that question too because its a testament to how unique and individual every person is. I have 3: bloodborne, shadow of the colossus, and little nightmares
MGS2
not always. For example I love hollow knight, but if I could, I would never want my knowledge of it (and my skill) to get wiped, it is a really hard game and there was a lot of struggle to complete it, it was very satisfying, but I’d rather know that I did it then start again and have to do it all again
huh, I guess Ocarina of Time, the Soulsborne games, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Starfox 64, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, Doom, Final Fantasy, Mario 3, and countless others aren't "great" games. Learn something new every day.
Great video man!! I hope you get all the success you deserve
Somehow didn't expect to see my goat Outer Wilds appear in this. Glad to see others appreciate it
Bro took 10 minutes to say absolutely nothing
Blud watched the video with no volume
My favorite youtube video game essay genre of "Mention as many games as possible in the shortest timeframe so people comment "I played that" and drive up engagement". To give some credit, the first 3 minutes had succeeded in creating the illusion of an interesting opinion being potentially expressed
one of the few youtube videos i geniuine enjoy watching
Return of the Obra Dinn is one of the most unique and rewarding games I ever played. Like Tihshoo said in this video I wished I could forget everything and play it a second time. But that sadly won't be possible. At least I could recommend the game to others and "force" my parents and siblings to play it. By watching them play it I could feel a glimpse of the excitement and joy I had felt before for a second/third time. All in all I am glad I found that game and am convinced that it's worth every penny.
I know it’s such an obvious opinion but bg3 genuinely shocked me with how repayable it is, it’s genuinely so much fun and has a solid story with so many different branches
im in the exact same boat. love it
cyberpunk was the same for me i loved the world the characters the story etc that i did every ending the DLC the base game brought every car apartment did every ncpd side quests got every achievement and felt sad that i did everything i never wanted to leave but sadly theres nothing else to do
I know exactly what you mean. It's one of those games i would really enjoy having endless amount of content. Empty, slightly depressed and a gut punch, that's what it feels to be done with the game. Might've helped adding some sort of end game activities and content combined with new game + although at this point it won't happen.
New playthrough, new build.
@@CoralCopperHeadbut what after once you play every possible build? Lol
If your on pc mod it
lowkey teared up at the end.. i jus wanna go back and experience all these weird games i love again like psychonauts or monley island. god i love games
Gris is one of these fisicly unreplayable games, and yet, it had me experience, tear, and feel more than some most big AAA games I played or just replayable games in general.
It might not get me to play again nor might it deliver the same expierience it did to me the first time, but it will be stuck with me, a part of me, replaying on my brain and replaying on my eyes.
replayability doesnt automatically make a game good, and not being replayable doesnt automatically make a game bad
I think one thing that should be mentioned when it comes to this topic is how any game can have infinite replayability if you love it enough. Wether it’s the 5 hour calming puzzle game or the 150 hour jrpg, if you love the game enough you’ll probably want to play it over and over, for example I have a about 500-600 hours in cyberpunk as it’s one of my favourite games but realistically all the replayability it has as a game with different story choices or build variety you can probably get through in like 3-4 playthroughs yet I couldn’t bring myself to stop playing it. When a game truly captures you like that, it can be played one or a million times.
cyberpunk is great because its immersive
Thats how I am with A.R.K, in singleplayer the gameplay loop is pretty much the same no matter what but I still dropped 800 hours into it
so true. i'm in the assassin's creed community and the amount of people that just keep replaying the games, even the non-RPG ones, which can be said to be shorter and more linear in story, is incredible. They do runs and reruns of the story or single missions just to try different things, approaches and equipment, to study and discover new mechanics altogether or simply for the pleasure of it.
Whenever I see that kind of determination and love anywhere to me it's honestly just a gigantic source of inspiration and respect
I went into two different games recently, and both hit me in the same kind of way. That feeling of "This was incredible, and it's a shame I can never experience it for the first time again"
Slay the Princess, and Signalis. Slay the Princess is a VN, where you'll slowly piece together the story as it builds towards it's final conclusion, and while you can replay it to see other paths and endings, the mystery is now gone, and it doesn't quite have the same punch. It IS still worth replaying to see those other paths and endings though.
Signalis is like the old school resident evil/silent hill games. Survival horror, solving puzzles, exploring areas and finding paths, and trying to figure out the story. It's an incredible experience to go into blind, and while it does have multiple endings that will help you figure out more and more of it's story (Or at least help you make your own theories on it, as there is no specific 'Correct interpretation'), you'll just breeze through the game itself because you already know all the paths, where all the key items are, how to solve the puzzles
Great video, very well articulated.