It's kinda weird because even tho its always been kinda shit, it was my favorite AR since the game came out. Its refreshing to see it found its place in the game
Little thing to point out, when you were comparing iron sights, the M4 you were showcasing was a blueprint, not the default M4. Remember blueprints affect iron sights, so thought I'd throw that in there😁
i hate the basic iron on the m4 the back sight giggles around too much it messes me up. i dont have the bluprint but on m4 i have picked up even no stalk i love the blueprint back sight
@@nolancleary6875 Yeah but I learned over time how to ignore the rear sight completely when I'm aiming and I just put all my focus on the point of impact and it seems to be working well
So, the M4 vs RAM vs M13. I’ll be grouping the three stats in the order listed above; here’s the stats: -833/882/*923* RPM fire rate - 28 to 18/28 to 18/ 24 to 19 damage profiles - 389 / *412* / 369 DPS (CQC) - 216 / *204* / 260 ms unarmored TTK [M13 only needs 1 headshot to be more competitive, though] - 576 / *544* / 650 ms armored TTK Shots to kill (M4 and RAM are paired up due to the same damage profile): - Base: 4 to 6 vs 5 to 6 - 1 Plate: 6 to 9 vs 7 to 8 - 2 Plates: 8 to 12 vs 9 to 11 - 3 Plates: 9 to 14 vs 11 to 14 [M13’s extra damage point means it can kill faster at range!] Ranges: - *M4 has the best 4 hit range*, with the RAM-7 close behind. The M14 has no 4 shot range. - The *RAM-7 has the best 5 hit range* with the M4 trailing; the M13 has a noticeably smaller 5 hit range. -Same thing goes for all barrels. Recoil: - (4:35) Base recoil on the M4 and RAM are more or less mirrored; the RAM kicks left and up, and the M4 goes up and right. The M13 has the smallest kick though. - (5:37) Same story as above, except less magnified. Handling - 250 / 234 / 250 ms ADS - 95/95/94% movement speed - 1.39 / 1.62 / 1.3 second reload Max Barrels: - 40/40/33% range boost - 284/300/300 ms ADS speed - 4/4/3% movement speed reduction Irons: - (7:42) You’re probably best off running an Optic if you can spare it. Ace thinks the M4/RAM are okay and the M13’s not great, but this is subjective. Loadouts: - (8:44) M4A1: Mono / Grenadier / Tac Laser / 60 round mag / Commando foregrip - (9:06) RAM-7: Mono / Ranger Barrel / Tac Laser / 60 round mag / Commando foregrip - (9:25) M13: Cyclone Barrel / Solozero Mini / Skeleton Stock / Merc Foregrip / 60 round mag - 300 / 250 / 267 ms ADS times on each respective build Conclusion - All are viable! The three can fight back against the sweaty Grau in their own right. - In CQC to mid range, the RAM is king. Ace puts the M13 above the M4 due to handling and control. - At a distance, Ace dislikes the RAM for its recoil. The M13 and M4 are better in his eyes. - In the end Ace likes both the Ms, but picks the M13 due to handling and recoil. The RAM’s recoil turns him off. PERSONAL THOUGHTS: - Even though the RAM-7 and M4 have a noticeable kick to the sides as you hold the trigger, they both have a pretty straight pattern for the first ten or so shots. Conversely, the M13 immediately yanks right after half a dozen bullets. - Ace did NOT mention you can “pulse” fire the M4 and RAM! This is HUGE FOR BOTH, as you can fire 10 shot “bursts” and remain high and dry from the nasty side to side recoil. - For this reason, I am going to DISAGREE with Ace and recommend the RAM-7. It’s still got a competitive handling style when kitted AND better CQC DPS, which is huge in the final circles. Just keep pulsing 10 shots at a distance, or else it will yank your recoil to the side!
@@mikebraithwaite6537 countless times I've watched through his videos and later down the line, when I come to change a loadout based on his info + recommendations I never remember what he actually said and find it reaally annoying having to watch through it again so this helps me a lot and does not undercut his work, it works with it and shows just how much info his videos pack. so stop nagging and have a nice day
Do a versus series with recoil reducing attachments + their implications when stacked with other recoil reducing Attachments or stacking cons of the attachments as well. *Operator Foregrip vs Merc foregrip vs Ranger foregrip* And please make a video about aiming stability changing the recoil pattern, i made some wall testing and it shows that the Granulated grip tape significantly reduce the randomness of the recoil pattern
@@axelschonefeld9315 he made a video on the recoil reducing attachments in the first months of the game and he didn't compared a the attachments when stacking and etc
@@axelschonefeld9315 He did make a video but it's old and since he just made a video talking about how they buffed the merc foregrip it's also irrelevant
Maybe instead of recoil patterns. Do if the in game description is accurate on its purpose. Cause my understanding based on what the game says is commando is best for full auto iron sights, Ranger for full auto with a low power optic, Operator for Scoped DMRs for faster re center speed, Merc for CQC recoil and hip fire.
Lol, i tend to do the opposite, Mp5 + AX-50 and Ram with RPG. Though i don't tend to have a problem at range with the ram. I actually prefer the recoil over the m4. It reminds me of the old Tar-21
💯 This. It is my go to always. It felt right immediately. I'm surprised it isn't talked about and used more. It works beautifully in damn near every situation and mode
Yeah, right? To me, M13 is simply *the* headshot gun. While the other guns are all nice and stuff, you still mostly use them for upper-body-to-head shots, while the literally 0 recoil of the M13 makes it a headshot-to-a-rare-upper-body shot.
I dont really understand it, is the 1.5x multiplier that special? From Ace's Warzone Dps Google Doc it seems that weapons like the M4 or RAM also get 1.5x multipliers
Fantastic video man! Honestly great to see all the top-tier ARs side by side (with attachments too) rather than skimming through old videos and stats. I think, to add to this video, you should give the Holger another run through; since the patch it feels like a surprisingly versatile GRAU-M4 hybrid and it's well worth revisiting!
When I play Trios or squads, I run the M13 with the variable zoom scope to suppress enemy snipers while my buddy’s take the more accurate shots. Works nicely paired with an MP5 or MP7.
I’d like to see a assault rifle vs SMG comparison. Comparing TTK ranges & ADS times for these. That way you’d get a good idea of when to switch out depending on distance.
Would love to see Bruen vs PKM, used both a bit and to me they're clearly the best LMGs in WZ, since they can both be specced out to handle closer to ARs but with the same LMG damage and range numbers
The beast is a mid-longe range beast. I run it with FMJ, GI mini, the 2nd barrel, the rubberized tape and the 200rd belt on WZ. The ability to hose people and vehicles down is beautiful. As a support player running restock with smoke grenades... It's beautiful to just keep the opponent pinned down while my homies flank and get upclose.
i dont know that those would be a very fair fight. way too different imo, though the bruen vs M91 (with proper attachments) i think would be cool. the PKM is strong, but i feel like it doesnt really compare to any of the other LMG's very well. that is unless you dont use the 60 round magazine for the bruen and have them both stay belt fed, then they might be similar, but why would you do that to the poor bruen lol
@@zevo9314 That's a reasonable argument, but I think the PKM with no stock and snatch grip gets somewhat comparable handling to the bruen with the 60 round mag, but it might just be me. I would just like to see the numbers, and the LMGs don't get enough love
@@ayhamaljuma7627 it is my first gold weapon as well it's gotten to the point where I can't use other marksman rifle because I'm too used to the crossbow
I've been using the M13 for a while now and it's my favourite AR. I just feel so confident with it especially at mid too long ranges. The recoil is so easy to manage, it's a laser. Like you say if you miss a shot or two it's not the end of the world. Great video Ace only problem now is the secrets out and more people are gonna be using the M13 now. At the end of the day you should pick the gun you feel most comfortable with and which gives you the most confidence that would be my advice to people.
I'm a noob in cod & this is my first game in the series so I'm glad I found your yt channel, it's super helpful in so many ways! Keep up the great content!! (Screen shots make great notes to reference when I'm editing my load outs lol)
M13 because of the recoil. Been in love with the gun when everyone was all over the M4 in the beginning. Something just kept calling especially with the different variations. Vlk for long range, tempests barrel for shipment and shoot house with the skeleton stock and 300 blackout. Its a beast of a gun and very underrated.
I would’ve liked to see a grau vs m13 since I feel like they’re both long range lasers but hopefully the grau gets nerfed so that comparison would be irrelevant
@Eredin, King of the Wild Hunt maybe try other guns once in a lifetime to show your not a bad player, jackass. you probably overkill with a mp5/mp7 or hdr and think youre a god lmfao
Eredin, King of the Wild Hunt the grau is just too good at everything, close, mid, long range. You can literally counter snipe with it out to like 200 meters.
@@royisdabest you're probably the type to get overkill with the dragunov and think you're good , and to say 27 is a good amount of kills but completely ignore that you died 50 times . Maybe shut up and let people play how they want to play , jackass
Agreed. With the archangel barrel and mono suppressor, the GRAU doesnt reach its lowest damage until near 100 meters. And with no recoil, yeah it needs a nerf. It beats snipers where snipers should dominate.
I’ve been using M13 since week 1. I like it best for long and mid range with an MP5 as a secondary, and I use the Ram with my AX50 for more aggressive mid to close range circles. Love the comparison videos though thanks for grinding!
Any chance you could do a video, or a comparison/update about the 458 socom rounds in warzone? They're really unique, and they seem to shred, but in your M4 gun guide you didn't really touch on ranges, and it'd be nice to know TTK's of warzone and how they work. Thanks for all your work so far!!!
I love Ace's M13 setup (with the Tempus Cyclone barrel) for Core MP and Warzone. For GROUND WAR - Best M13 Setup: 1. Skeleton Stock 2. 4x Holographic Hybrid (That Zoomable EOTech thing) 3. Marksman Barrel 4. Commando Foregrip 5. Monolithic Suppressor *This gives you 40% range increase, recoil control, recoil stabilization, increased ADS, increased ADS walking, excellent optic for long range fights.
Ive been dropping M13 hints in a few of your AR comparison videos for warzone. Im glad you finally got around to this vid. For me without a doubt the M13 and Grau are the 2 undisputed best ARs for warzone. Including headshot info id love to see a comparison of these two.
When you know the game needs new content. I feel like everyone is just grinding the same guns/builds into the ground. Nice vid, hit you with the like as always.
You can thank SBMM for that too... It's basically a necessity to use the "Meta" weapons to be able to compete in higher MMR lobbies all because of SBMM
@@IVIRnathanreilly I think he is referring to Warzone. I'm exactly the same. I have fun using the scar, oden, ak in Warzone, but with SBMM you just end up loosing fights in warzone that you could have one using one of the "Meta" Weapons (which are boring and not fun to use because they're easy ray guns)
Yesss finally M13 Is seeing some publicity. I love the gun, it has essentially the same iron sights as the m4a1 in mw2. And I shred with it. None of my hommies like it though.
People been sleepin' on RAM7! I personally love it in warzone, it melts through armor because of its dps and when you stack the range attachments, it is pretty competitive in ranges! Trust me, when you put the longest barrel (which also gives the best recoil control), you won't even notice its recoil.
I honestly don't bother with any underbarrel, and instead go for sleight of hand (for a minute I was being cheeky with smoke underbarrel and thermal sights, but that was nonsense) to reduce that reload time. I guess coming from a different game series, i have less trouble with the leftward recoil. The ram is a beast
It's just that these kids suck and are used to the Grau zero recoil. Real men use the high DPS weapons that are harder to use like the Oden, AK, and Ram
My friends always asked why I had a long range M13 build. Now they can see why it makes sense. At long ranges it actually outclasses these guns. Up close it is worse and some can tell. Personally I can. I always paired it up with either a MP7/MP5/P90. I also have a RAM7 class I love to use paired up with either the 680 or VLK shotguns with dragons breath rounds. All these setups have great ttk potentials. I personally don't find the RAM7's recoild hard to control at all. Not even at long ranges. So it works for me really well. I've got about equal Wins and Kills with both setups I'd say. Great Comparison again Ace. Keep these videos coming! I really love being able to improve my understanding of games like this. It helps me make competitive builds. It also makes it fun to teach my friends and family who play this game, about weapons.
I’ve got an m13 SMG conversion setup for you! It is good because it does so much more damage than regular smgs like the mp5 or mp7. Attachments: No stock, Tempus mini barrel, merc foregrip, .300 blackout rounds, any sight you want or a recoil-reducing muzzle attachment.
As long as the left vs right recoil doesn't throw you off there isn't really a good reason to use the M4 over the RAM. M4 has a few minor benefits over the RAM like the 10 extra bullets per mag, faster reload, and slightly longer 4SK range, but the RAM's better TTK, significantly faster ADS and longer 5SK range matter more. M13 I feel belongs in a different category than those two: M4/RAM are "great up close, decent at range" while the M13 is "decent up close, great at range". RAM you use with something like a sniper, M13 you use with the MP5.
I'd like to see them increase the capacity of the blackout rounds to make them more than a gimmick. The idea fits very well into warzone, but 30 rounds in a low damage bullet hose is near useless in anything beyond solos.
I don't even play Warzone often but I do enjoy these videos. Also I kinda just use whatever, just because I don't play often. No point in getting invested in that way, when I barely play. Keeps the game fun for me.
It's actually relatively poor in CQB because it's TTK is slow and it has the base handling characteristics of ARs instead of the faster SMG ones. It's mainly just good for long range, unless you hit headshots (it's headshot multiplier is 1.5).
Christopher Powell i usually run the same class but w the g.i mini reflex instead of a stock. its a complete lazer. it gives the grau a run for its money if we’re being honest cause the recoil is minimal
Normally i use the ram7 with the sniper because of the mid-close prime of the weapon, with the mp5 i use the m13 because of the long range prime and the m4 with pistols or rpg because it's the most balanced of the three
I’m the demo guy for my squad so I carry an RPG instead of an SMG or sniper so for me, it’s the M13 with VLK x3.0 sight. I can beat a Grau and challenge SMGs in close range and I can challenge snipers at ridiculously long ranges
Best AR in Warzone is the Bruen MK9. When you use the 60 round conversion with a commando foregrip, monolithic suppressor, tac laser, and the skeleton stock. It’s soooooo good. So far it’s the only weapon that can outgun the Grau in medium/long ranges and even competes with SMGs in close range. It’s severely overlooked and I think people should start straying away from the current Grau/Mp5 meta to try something new and just as good if not better.
It's stats are definitely the best, the only thing that i think is holding it back are the iron sights. Out of all the "ARs" it has the worst, there's so much clutter in those sights. But if you get used to them it's definitely the top gun
Jean Carlos Acevedo I love the iron sights. Then again I’m a guy that uses the “OG” M16 iron sights on the M4 and still drops 10-15 kills most games. It’s just personal preference.
You should put the longest barrel on it, I use that instead of suppressor (Summit Barrel, Tac Laser, 60 Round Mags, Merc Foregrip, Skeleton Stock atm). I saw someone had done some testing and in this case you end up with a low recoil gun that can take two or three less shots to kill than the Grau with Archangel at long range with a higher fire rate. 40+m you're easily outgunning any AR in the game and closer than that your TTK is still in line. I run it with MP7 as secondary just because I got bored of the MP5 and if you have a secondary then up close you can just use that and not have to worry about the slightly slower handling on the MK9.
Maximillian Newcombe I have the bad boy gold and have been using it since it released. I’ve messed around with all the attachments to get a right mixture of mobility and range. If I’m using a sniper I’ll run the skeleton stock instead of the Summit barrel. But if I use an SMG, I’ll put the summit barrel on instead of the skeleton stock. There’s some weird bug with the skeleton stock where the Tac laser ads is actually faster so I use that when I’m going for range.
@@beefychief3355 I also just got it gold, that's fair enough. I don;t have an overly aggressive playstyle and am on PC so I like to keep my fights at slightly longer range. I did read somewhere though on some data sheets that the Tac laser is almost universally the best attachment for reducing ADS, other than no stock, on most guns.
M13 has been a go-to for me for a while. I've been rocking .300 blackout simply because I feel it shreds armor quicker in a 1v1 situation, but I might have to try 50/60 round mags in Warzone. Just hit gold with it too, so I definitely enjoy how it handles/hits.
All are viable. I started with the M4 and I thought it was great...until I tried the RAM. Switched the M13 for a little while, and while I agree that it is forgiving, it can feel like a potato gun sometimes with the hit markers. My preferences: Loadout One MP5 (for the CQC) Grau for the mid-long range (It's too easy to not use it 🤷🏻♂️) Loadout Two Ram-7 (For CQC-Mid) HDR (Mid-Long) I just switch between them depending on what my teammates are running.
I really love my M13 with VLK 3x, Marksman, Commando, Monolithic and 50 round mags (I only play solos and prefer the extra mobility to the 10 rounds I’ll almost never use). Combined with an MP5, I can harass snipers and shred anyone mid to short range.
honestly, I feel like they've been secretly buffing the M13 because a few months ago when I used it, it was so much worse than the M4 or atleast it felt nowhere near as good.
Garu is the best because you dont need a different sight like the others so its 1 extra attachment you get to use unlike many guns, plus the range and recoil at range is basically perfect combo thats what makes it the best in warzone but not the best in mp. Its a weird fact lol
Because of the faster fire rate and lower recoil of the M13 there is a lot less of a need for long range attachments and eliminates the need for a backup gun in most cases. I personally run mine with the Tempest storm barrel, commando foregrip, 60 round mags, skeleton stock, and the canted optic.
The Oden actually bodies people with the right setup. I’m actually a fan of the iron sights and will run tac laser, colossus suppressor, 810 barrel, ranger, and 25/30 round mags. Fantastic at med range, and semi auto with similar performance to the FAL at longer ranges.
@oldmansouthside, yeah but once you get used to the recoil, that thing shreds most people from close to medium range, then snipe for longer ranges. I’ll admit I use that set-up only on solos though. The mag capacity isn’t great for squads.
Ay Im just trippin nothing wrong with them not wanting to use popular guns. As long as they don’t give people a hard time for using a popular gun, I don’t see anything wrong with it
One thing i like about the m13 is the blackout rounds. I use it as my stealth weapon, so the enemy has a hard time pinpointing where the shots are comming from.
Also remeber the m4a1 iron sights in this video require that you either pre-ordered the game, or that you buy a specific blueprint. The default iron sights is much worse, similar to m13.
@@idkh9288 I think you're just not used to controlling recoil dude. The RAM barely kicks at all compared to guns like the AK, and I can laser with the AK after practicing the pattern a few times.
Agreed. I was a bit late to the Bruen party, but after seeing cheesymofo using it. I decided to grind it whilst Shipment had triple xp. Man I'm impressed, it destroys armour and kills very quickly. Plus great to control.
@Ben Dover you throw a smoke grenade, and kill an enemy in or near it. Do it on shipment. Thrown smoke grenade in middle lanes and have a thermal on an lmg. Play 15 games this way, non stop smoke. Complete each game to the end otherwise it wont count.
@@bro987 I use monolithic suppressor, 60 round mags, the stock that reduces your ads time, stippled grip tape and pbx holo 7 (i just prefer holo sights because they have a bit of zoom, but not too much.)
I now use the M13 for solo in warzone and it’s amazing, monolithic suppresor, marksman Barrel, vlk3.0 optic, tactical foregrip, and stipples grip tape. And a secondary I use the typical MP5 if there’s a lot of houses and if not the AX-50
I started using the RAM-7 recently and I've really loved it. It just puts people down at close range so quick, and I don't have a problem controlling the recoil.
Ace says he has a hard time with the recoil which is what a lot of people say, but I’ve been using this gun so much that I’m used to the recoil and can control much more easily
@@malcolmkyeremeh5444 well, since I'm not an admin of Ace's channel, neither getting paid with a thankful message at least for the time being, I'd say that I've done my part as a helpful subscriber. But for the sake of really being helpful and without being specific, i would say from launchers and even a few vids back. I hope you find this comment satisfying, and that I've shown a little care for the matter. Hope you have a great day, my fellow warzoner ;D
Well done. Very well put together as usual. My Ram-7 has been my gun since day 1, but I love your build for the M13. Been using it long before this video.
I call mine the Ram rancher LOL. It’s a laser beam the way I have it setup for search. No one uses it and people are so confused when I kill them and you can hear them for a couple seconds
I think a lot of people sleep on the M13 with the internally suppressed barrel. I ended up creating the "Cagefighter" variant and I have a great time on rust 👍
Jonathan Lee for battle royal id say sometimes in plunder and your looting in a building and someone has a m4 most likely your screwed even if your aiming at the head
Honestly, there should be a game mode where all of the meta weapons are removed. The amount of times I've been trying to use new guns then been forced to switch to the MP5 to teach them a lesson is mind numbing.
Stanly Ramos facts!! The gulag used to be balanced when everyone had shit guns, now It’s just who camps and lasers the other person first, fuckin broken 😭
I've settled into using the RAM-7 with ranger barrel, commando foregrip and scout optic. Yes it can be hindered at range and sometimes I have to fire in bursts but if used well it's surprising how far out it can reach. I also really like the M13 as well but tend to use that more in team games. I use the M4 as a last minute loadout with fully loaded equipped if I'm dropping back in at the start of zone 5.
If I’m correct and the M4A1 they’re using in the game is the original and the only difference between it and the m16a3 is a shorter barrel. If you use the Corvus it’s a m16a3 and if you use the grenadier it’s a m16a1 I believe. Then of course the burst attachment lets you make the A2/A4. I’m stubborn and use the anime variant for the handrail ironsights
Ace Man True I didn’t play much then so I didn’t get it but I picked up the anime pack just for the m16(wish it had purple bullets like the new Grau or green bullets to rep Nam a bit lol). I really wish that when you amke a variant of a gun it changes the name it displays. Cool touch that hopefully gets added for their next game
Love the video, I run that same m13 bc of you but I changed the skeleton stock to stippled grip just bc it ended up feeling better for me. Thanks for the insight again, you’re always helping with my attachment and gun choices!
one thing that has a huge effect imo in warzone = you can pick m4s off the ground. So an m4 user can run the m4 all game and have that short term muscle memory, where as m13 and ram's are rarer and annoying to use.
The heartwarming story of a 5.56 with no 4-shot range who managed to beat the odds and get pretty swole.
It's just beautiful :')
It's trash
I’ve been running m13 since day it, although recoil needs to have recoil stabilization
It's kinda weird because even tho its always been kinda shit, it was my favorite AR since the game came out. Its refreshing to see it found its place in the game
Etern4l Saiy4n you probably think your "good" because you use easy weapons like the grau or mp5
“you feel like you’re at a disadvantage without an optic equipped”. Well I feel like I’m at a disadvantage every warzone match
Little thing to point out, when you were comparing iron sights, the M4 you were showcasing was a blueprint, not the default M4. Remember blueprints affect iron sights, so thought I'd throw that in there😁
Yeah I thought about that too. The base M4 iron sights are pretty excellent in my opinion
Best iron sight hands down tempus grau. I may say to m13. But it doesnt have the damage
Thanks i didn't know that
i hate the basic iron on the m4 the back sight giggles around too much it messes me up. i dont have the bluprint but on m4 i have picked up even no stalk i love the blueprint back sight
@@nolancleary6875 Yeah but I learned over time how to ignore the rear sight completely when I'm aiming and I just put all my focus on the point of impact and it seems to be working well
P.E. Teacher: Alright, we’re going to do a nice jog around the track.
The three annoying athletic kids:
And then the grau is the D1 trackstar
😂
tmoe_ow lmao facts
The Grau is the slow kid with a lot of energy and has the best mile time
@@tobe.moemeka no? M13 is better in range and ram and m4 are better in close and mid range
So, the M4 vs RAM vs M13. I’ll be grouping the three stats in the order listed above; here’s the stats:
-833/882/*923* RPM fire rate
- 28 to 18/28 to 18/ 24 to 19 damage profiles
- 389 / *412* / 369 DPS (CQC)
- 216 / *204* / 260 ms unarmored TTK [M13 only needs 1 headshot to be more competitive, though]
- 576 / *544* / 650 ms armored TTK
Shots to kill (M4 and RAM are paired up due to the same damage profile):
- Base: 4 to 6 vs 5 to 6
- 1 Plate: 6 to 9 vs 7 to 8
- 2 Plates: 8 to 12 vs 9 to 11
- 3 Plates: 9 to 14 vs 11 to 14
[M13’s extra damage point means it can kill faster at range!]
Ranges:
- *M4 has the best 4 hit range*, with the RAM-7 close behind. The M14 has no 4 shot range.
- The *RAM-7 has the best 5 hit range* with the M4 trailing; the M13 has a noticeably smaller 5 hit range.
-Same thing goes for all barrels.
Recoil:
- (4:35) Base recoil on the M4 and RAM are more or less mirrored; the RAM kicks left and up, and the M4 goes up and right. The M13 has the smallest kick though.
- (5:37) Same story as above, except less magnified.
Handling
- 250 / 234 / 250 ms ADS
- 95/95/94% movement speed
- 1.39 / 1.62 / 1.3 second reload
Max Barrels:
- 40/40/33% range boost
- 284/300/300 ms ADS speed
- 4/4/3% movement speed reduction
Irons:
- (7:42) You’re probably best off running an Optic if you can spare it. Ace thinks the M4/RAM are okay and the M13’s not great, but this is subjective.
Loadouts:
- (8:44) M4A1: Mono / Grenadier / Tac Laser / 60 round mag / Commando foregrip
- (9:06) RAM-7: Mono / Ranger Barrel / Tac Laser / 60 round mag / Commando foregrip
- (9:25) M13: Cyclone Barrel / Solozero Mini / Skeleton Stock / Merc Foregrip / 60 round mag
- 300 / 250 / 267 ms ADS times on each respective build
Conclusion
- All are viable! The three can fight back against the sweaty Grau in their own right.
- In CQC to mid range, the RAM is king. Ace puts the M13 above the M4 due to handling and control.
- At a distance, Ace dislikes the RAM for its recoil. The M13 and M4 are better in his eyes.
- In the end Ace likes both the Ms, but picks the M13 due to handling and recoil. The RAM’s recoil turns him off.
PERSONAL THOUGHTS:
- Even though the RAM-7 and M4 have a noticeable kick to the sides as you hold the trigger, they both have a pretty straight pattern for the first ten or so shots. Conversely, the M13 immediately yanks right after half a dozen bullets.
- Ace did NOT mention you can “pulse” fire the M4 and RAM! This is HUGE FOR BOTH, as you can fire 10 shot “bursts” and remain high and dry from the nasty side to side recoil.
- For this reason, I am going to DISAGREE with Ace and recommend the RAM-7. It’s still got a competitive handling style when kitted AND better CQC DPS, which is huge in the final circles. Just keep pulsing 10 shots at a distance, or else it will yank your recoil to the side!
or people can just watch the video and you can not undercut his work.
You're telling me that recoil works like it was in Battlefield 3?
@@mikebraithwaite6537 countless times I've watched through his videos and later down the line, when I come to change a loadout based on his info + recommendations I never remember what he actually said and find it reaally annoying having to watch through it again so this helps me a lot and does not undercut his work, it works with it and shows just how much info his videos pack.
so stop nagging and have a nice day
Mike Braithwaite undercut all he put was his personal opinion and even linked the time stamps to the video chill out fan boy
Bro u got so much free time
I just run the Ram-7 with the HDR. It’s such a good combo!
Same combo I run
Its just dominant at close and mid range with Ram, the for long you got the sniper, I love it too
same I love the Ram. I just use the AX50 with it
What is your ram class
Same here.
Do a versus series with recoil reducing attachments + their implications when stacked with other recoil reducing Attachments or stacking cons of the attachments as well.
*Operator Foregrip vs Merc foregrip vs Ranger foregrip*
And please make a video about aiming stability changing the recoil pattern, i made some wall testing and it shows that the Granulated grip tape significantly reduce the randomness of the recoil pattern
Pretty sure he already has did that
@@axelschonefeld9315 he made a video on the recoil reducing attachments in the first months of the game and he didn't compared a the attachments when stacking and etc
@@axelschonefeld9315 He did make a video but it's old and since he just made a video talking about how they buffed the merc foregrip it's also irrelevant
@daimon hellstrom no, definitely not because of the horizontal recoil
Maybe instead of recoil patterns. Do if the in game description is accurate on its purpose. Cause my understanding based on what the game says is commando is best for full auto iron sights, Ranger for full auto with a low power optic, Operator for Scoped DMRs for faster re center speed, Merc for CQC recoil and hip fire.
For me its simple. I run the m13 as a long range weapon together with a SMG for close fights. The Ram7-M4 i run with a sniper or RPG
This is how I run my loadouts as well
That m13 is a Straight laser.
Lol, i tend to do the opposite, Mp5 + AX-50 and Ram with RPG. Though i don't tend to have a problem at range with the ram. I actually prefer the recoil over the m4. It reminds me of the old Tar-21
PEANUT BUTTER BOY bruh, you even watch the vid? M13 has faster ttk than m4 at long ranges...
M13 - Best sniper AR!!!
Finally someone putting respect on the RAM💯
💯 This. It is my go to always. It felt right immediately. I'm surprised it isn't talked about and used more. It works beautifully in damn near every situation and mode
i like left recoil more than right recoil so i choose ram
JGOD put me onto the RAM a while back. Works for me as I've also got the green tracer pack for it :P
I still dont have it😥
Bro I’m my opinion the ram would be a great competitor for the best gun if the mobility was better
I wish they add a 60 round MAG or drum for RAM !
Fax
They won't, it's for balance, otherwise no reason to use the m4
The ram 7 had a 9mm drum like 10 months ago
@@Ibr_k47 no it never
@@ibz_pk7931 it did stupid
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I LOVE the M13. Being able to hit shots consistently over 100m is so satisfying
@Hrishi vlk 3×0 Optic is the best one
@@nasezwerg2436 I prefer the Canted Hybrid. It's a laser with the 3.5x, but the "mini" is insane.
@@joselase6894 apparently the vlk slightly reduces the recoil
Whats your class
Not having to try is satisfying?
I wish you had gone into more details about the headshot damage because that's where the M13 really shines with a 1.5x multiplier
Ace has made individual gun guides where he does go into more details.
Yeah, right? To me, M13 is simply *the* headshot gun. While the other guns are all nice and stuff, you still mostly use them for upper-body-to-head shots, while the literally 0 recoil of the M13 makes it a headshot-to-a-rare-upper-body shot.
I dont really understand it, is the 1.5x multiplier that special? From Ace's Warzone Dps Google Doc it seems that weapons like the M4 or RAM also get 1.5x multipliers
@@CRPsupreme given that the gun does 24 damage a 1.5 multiplier means one less bullet, the others with 28 it's the same
Headshots for the win M13 slayyyz
Fantastic video man! Honestly great to see all the top-tier ARs side by side (with attachments too) rather than skimming through old videos and stats.
I think, to add to this video, you should give the Holger another run through; since the patch it feels like a surprisingly versatile GRAU-M4 hybrid and it's well worth revisiting!
The iron sights on the M4 are only fine when you have the XRK M4 or the Purist M4. The base M4 iron sights are not very clean in my opinion.
Wtf! This whole time i thought i couldnt get the xrk ironsights cause i didnt kmow the purist had them wow thanks so much
so does White Noise
Or the stalwart it's just 500 and has the xrk iron sights
@@adambassuni6084 get stalwart it's 500 and has them
@@conorbaumann2942 i used the purist its free anyway
When I play Trios or squads, I run the M13 with the variable zoom scope to suppress enemy snipers while my buddy’s take the more accurate shots. Works nicely paired with an MP5 or MP7.
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1,000 subscribers challenge dude I swear I see u in every video. Pls stop commenting this. It’s kinda annoying
I’d like to see a assault rifle vs SMG comparison. Comparing TTK ranges & ADS times for these. That way you’d get a good idea of when to switch out depending on distance.
Would love to see Bruen vs PKM, used both a bit and to me they're clearly the best LMGs in WZ, since they can both be specced out to handle closer to ARs but with the same LMG damage and range numbers
Pkm is better for longer ranges. Bruen is a better allrounder.
The beast is a mid-longe range beast.
I run it with FMJ, GI mini, the 2nd barrel, the rubberized tape and the 200rd belt on WZ.
The ability to hose people and vehicles down is beautiful.
As a support player running restock with smoke grenades... It's beautiful to just keep the opponent pinned down while my homies flank and get upclose.
i dont know that those would be a very fair fight. way too different imo, though the bruen vs M91 (with proper attachments) i think would be cool. the PKM is strong, but i feel like it doesnt really compare to any of the other LMG's very well. that is unless you dont use the 60 round magazine for the bruen and have them both stay belt fed, then they might be similar, but why would you do that to the poor bruen lol
Anyone noticed how lmg bullets looks like they have a slower bullet velocity?
@@zevo9314 That's a reasonable argument, but I think the PKM with no stock and snatch grip gets somewhat comparable handling to the bruen with the 60 round mag, but it might just be me. I would just like to see the numbers, and the LMGs don't get enough love
Me : sees assault rifles Also me : *goes back hunting people with crossbow*
crossbow is fun to play in multiplayer..also is warzone with thermite bolts ..my first gold weapon lmao
ayham al juma agreed I just got my first obsidian with it
@@ayhamaljuma7627 it is my first gold weapon as well it's gotten to the point where I can't use other marksman rifle because I'm too used to the crossbow
Been running the ram for the past few days and I'm absolutely loving it. Perfect close to mid range AR in my eyes, pairs with a sniper very well.
M13 with:
Mono, tempus marksman, commando, 60rd, and VLK is my fav. Run an MP5 to make up for short range engagements
We have the exact same class setup
Or just run the grau and then the mp5 for short range
Joseph Lara people with out mw can’t get the grau unless they are hardcore sweat
@@Nashh_enry it was in the season 2 battle pass as a free weapon
@@peanut7202 we're way past season 2 now lol that's the prob for some
I've been using the M13 for a while now and it's my favourite AR. I just feel so confident with it especially at mid too long ranges. The recoil is so easy to manage, it's a laser. Like you say if you miss a shot or two it's not the end of the world. Great video Ace only problem now is the secrets out and more people are gonna be using the M13 now.
At the end of the day you should pick the gun you feel most comfortable with and which gives you the most confidence that would be my advice to people.
I'm a noob in cod & this is my first game in the series so I'm glad I found your yt channel, it's super helpful in so many ways! Keep up the great content!! (Screen shots make great notes to reference when I'm editing my load outs lol)
M13 because of the recoil. Been in love with the gun when everyone was all over the M4 in the beginning. Something just kept calling especially with the different variations. Vlk for long range, tempests barrel for shipment and shoot house with the skeleton stock and 300 blackout. Its a beast of a gun and very underrated.
They call it the budget grau these days...
You play inverted controls? I think inverted players have a huge advantage with the M13
I would’ve liked to see a grau vs m13 since I feel like they’re both long range lasers but hopefully the grau gets nerfed so that comparison would be irrelevant
@Eredin, King of the Wild Hunt maybe try other guns once in a lifetime to show your not a bad player, jackass. you probably overkill with a mp5/mp7 or hdr and think youre a god lmfao
Eredin, King of the Wild Hunt the grau is just too good at everything, close, mid, long range. You can literally counter snipe with it out to like 200 meters.
@@royisdabest you're probably the type to get overkill with the dragunov and think you're good , and to say 27 is a good amount of kills but completely ignore that you died 50 times . Maybe shut up and let people play how they want to play , jackass
@@youuglyasl4842 kar98k, i go positive mp lmfao stfu
Agreed. With the archangel barrel and mono suppressor, the GRAU doesnt reach its lowest damage until near 100 meters. And with no recoil, yeah it needs a nerf. It beats snipers where snipers should dominate.
I’ve been using M13 since week 1. I like it best for long and mid range with an MP5 as a secondary, and I use the Ram with my AX50 for more aggressive mid to close range circles. Love the comparison videos though thanks for grinding!
M13 MP7 class is what’s been treating me extremely well the last couple weeks. My KD went up .2 in about 2 weeks with the current class setup
10:43 when you’re trying to stretch out that essay word quota.
10 mins is the target waffel waffel
He is more decent than most
@@fffrankthetankkk he already hit the 10min mark
Any chance you could do a video, or a comparison/update about the 458 socom rounds in warzone? They're really unique, and they seem to shred, but in your M4 gun guide you didn't really touch on ranges, and it'd be nice to know TTK's of warzone and how they work.
Thanks for all your work so far!!!
They shred but its only 10 rounds so not worth it
458 kills super fast but is really only viable for solos
@@bahambathegreat8244 For duos and solos it definitely seems like a viable option
It's really nice to see that you haven't any notable disadvantages by using any AR in WZ
I love Ace's M13 setup (with the Tempus Cyclone barrel) for Core MP and Warzone.
For GROUND WAR - Best M13 Setup:
1. Skeleton Stock
2. 4x Holographic Hybrid (That Zoomable EOTech thing)
3. Marksman Barrel
4. Commando Foregrip
5. Monolithic Suppressor
*This gives you 40% range increase, recoil control, recoil stabilization, increased ADS, increased ADS walking, excellent optic for long range fights.
Grau: Allow me to introduce myself
Do RAM vs Grau. then everyone will start running the RAM😂
Yar Bud nah I’d rather have them stay with their laser than take my shredder
Ive been dropping M13 hints in a few of your AR comparison videos for warzone. Im glad you finally got around to this vid. For me without a doubt the M13 and Grau are the 2 undisputed best ARs for warzone. Including headshot info id love to see a comparison of these two.
When you know the game needs new content. I feel like everyone is just grinding the same guns/builds into the ground. Nice vid, hit you with the like as always.
You can thank SBMM for that too... It's basically a necessity to use the "Meta" weapons to be able to compete in higher MMR lobbies all because of SBMM
I usually try to use different weapons every day but when u keep getting destroyed by the m4 and grau it is hard to not go back to them
@@rasmus9149 if it's not warzone you're talking about go hardcore. Way more fun
@@IVIRnathanreilly I think he is referring to Warzone. I'm exactly the same. I have fun using the scar, oden, ak in Warzone, but with SBMM you just end up loosing fights in warzone that you could have one using one of the "Meta" Weapons (which are boring and not fun to use because they're easy ray guns)
Yesss finally M13 Is seeing some publicity. I love the gun, it has essentially the same iron sights as the m4a1 in mw2. And I shred with it. None of my hommies like it though.
People been sleepin' on RAM7! I personally love it in warzone, it melts through armor because of its dps and when you stack the range attachments, it is pretty competitive in ranges! Trust me, when you put the longest barrel (which also gives the best recoil control), you won't even notice its recoil.
They havent been sleeping on it, it just sucks
bahambathegreat It really doesn’t suck though, especially when paired with a sniper. So I wouldn’t run it without Overkill.
I honestly don't bother with any underbarrel, and instead go for sleight of hand (for a minute I was being cheeky with smoke underbarrel and thermal sights, but that was nonsense) to reduce that reload time. I guess coming from a different game series, i have less trouble with the leftward recoil. The ram is a beast
It's just that these kids suck and are used to the Grau zero recoil. Real men use the high DPS weapons that are harder to use like the Oden, AK, and Ram
I just love the RAM7 & Sniper combination. That's my prefered loadout setup.
My friends always asked why I had a long range M13 build. Now they can see why it makes sense. At long ranges it actually outclasses these guns. Up close it is worse and some can tell. Personally I can. I always paired it up with either a MP7/MP5/P90. I also have a RAM7 class I love to use paired up with either the 680 or VLK shotguns with dragons breath rounds. All these setups have great ttk potentials. I personally don't find the RAM7's recoild hard to control at all. Not even at long ranges. So it works for me really well. I've got about equal Wins and Kills with both setups I'd say.
Great Comparison again Ace. Keep these videos coming! I really love being able to improve my understanding of games like this. It helps me make competitive builds. It also makes it fun to teach my friends and family who play this game, about weapons.
I’ve got an m13 SMG conversion setup for you! It is good because it does so much more damage than regular smgs like the mp5 or mp7.
Attachments: No stock, Tempus mini barrel, merc foregrip, .300 blackout rounds, any sight you want or a recoil-reducing muzzle attachment.
As long as the left vs right recoil doesn't throw you off there isn't really a good reason to use the M4 over the RAM. M4 has a few minor benefits over the RAM like the 10 extra bullets per mag, faster reload, and slightly longer 4SK range, but the RAM's better TTK, significantly faster ADS and longer 5SK range matter more. M13 I feel belongs in a different category than those two: M4/RAM are "great up close, decent at range" while the M13 is "decent up close, great at range".
RAM you use with something like a sniper, M13 you use with the MP5.
disagreed
@@dozette1448 very insightful answer. Love the part where you say disagreed with no input whatsoever
@@dozette1448 clown
Alan Gonzalez nah he’s the whole damn circus
Tbf there isn’t really a good reason to use any of these over the grau so
😂 😂 😂 CZcams played a RAM truck ad on this video.
I'd like to see them increase the capacity of the blackout rounds to make them more than a gimmick. The idea fits very well into warzone, but 30 rounds in a low damage bullet hose is near useless in anything beyond solos.
I don't even play Warzone often but I do enjoy these videos. Also I kinda just use whatever, just because I don't play often. No point in getting invested in that way, when I barely play. Keeps the game fun for me.
M13 it is. I like how it perform, good for CQC and quite good for mid to long thanks to easy recoil control.
It's actually relatively poor in CQB because it's TTK is slow and it has the base handling characteristics of ARs instead of the faster SMG ones. It's mainly just good for long range, unless you hit headshots (it's headshot multiplier is 1.5).
Andrei Valdez that’s why I didn’t really like Aces build for the M13
It's ok. I'm get it, it comes to personal preference. Use what you like ma man. 😉
has anyone tried m13 with cyclone barrel merc foregrip 60 rd mags skeleton stock and tac laser?
Christopher Powell i usually run the same class but w the g.i mini reflex instead of a stock. its a complete lazer. it gives the grau a run for its money if we’re being honest cause the recoil is minimal
Love this! Pretty much confirmed all my feelings. Now we just need a grau vs m13 face off!
Normally i use the ram7 with the sniper because of the mid-close prime of the weapon, with the mp5 i use the m13 because of the long range prime and the m4 with pistols or rpg because it's the most balanced of the three
I’m the demo guy for my squad so I carry an RPG instead of an SMG or sniper so for me, it’s the M13 with VLK x3.0 sight. I can beat a Grau and challenge SMGs in close range and I can challenge snipers at ridiculously long ranges
On the m13, how does the damage and range change when you use the 30 round blackout mags?
I'd only use those for close range or in MP
@@abbydxxx i would never use it in MP, cuz ADS counts a lot more than damage. :p
Best AR in Warzone is the Bruen MK9. When you use the 60 round conversion with a commando foregrip, monolithic suppressor, tac laser, and the skeleton stock. It’s soooooo good. So far it’s the only weapon that can outgun the Grau in medium/long ranges and even competes with SMGs in close range. It’s severely overlooked and I think people should start straying away from the current Grau/Mp5 meta to try something new and just as good if not better.
It's stats are definitely the best, the only thing that i think is holding it back are the iron sights. Out of all the "ARs" it has the worst, there's so much clutter in those sights. But if you get used to them it's definitely the top gun
Jean Carlos Acevedo I love the iron sights. Then again I’m a guy that uses the “OG” M16 iron sights on the M4 and still drops 10-15 kills most games. It’s just personal preference.
You should put the longest barrel on it, I use that instead of suppressor (Summit Barrel, Tac Laser, 60 Round Mags, Merc Foregrip, Skeleton Stock atm). I saw someone had done some testing and in this case you end up with a low recoil gun that can take two or three less shots to kill than the Grau with Archangel at long range with a higher fire rate. 40+m you're easily outgunning any AR in the game and closer than that your TTK is still in line. I run it with MP7 as secondary just because I got bored of the MP5 and if you have a secondary then up close you can just use that and not have to worry about the slightly slower handling on the MK9.
Maximillian Newcombe I have the bad boy gold and have been using it since it released. I’ve messed around with all the attachments to get a right mixture of mobility and range. If I’m using a sniper I’ll run the skeleton stock instead of the Summit barrel. But if I use an SMG, I’ll put the summit barrel on instead of the skeleton stock. There’s some weird bug with the skeleton stock where the Tac laser ads is actually faster so I use that when I’m going for range.
@@beefychief3355 I also just got it gold, that's fair enough. I don;t have an overly aggressive playstyle and am on PC so I like to keep my fights at slightly longer range. I did read somewhere though on some data sheets that the Tac laser is almost universally the best attachment for reducing ADS, other than no stock, on most guns.
Love the VLK sight on the M13. Very small ADS penalty, no real loss of control, and a 3.25x zoom that makes for a clean picture.
M13 has been a go-to for me for a while. I've been rocking .300 blackout simply because I feel it shreds armor quicker in a 1v1 situation, but I might have to try 50/60 round mags in Warzone. Just hit gold with it too, so I definitely enjoy how it handles/hits.
The RAM is the best, now you've gone and told everyone. It just leans left like the Maddox did in BO4
Why would u need a close range AR
Maddy ice with elo all day
If they far enough away the RAM can't get em, I got plenty enough time to pull out sniper
If you can manage the recoil. I, personally, can't.
He never said it's the best, it's actually the worst, it's not at ALL versatile, it's just what it is because of its bullpup design !
All are viable. I started with the M4 and I thought it was great...until I tried the RAM. Switched the M13 for a little while, and while I agree that it is forgiving, it can feel like a potato gun sometimes with the hit markers.
My preferences:
Loadout One
MP5 (for the CQC)
Grau for the mid-long range (It's too easy to not use it 🤷🏻♂️)
Loadout Two
Ram-7 (For CQC-Mid)
HDR (Mid-Long)
I just switch between them depending on what my teammates are running.
I really love my M13 with VLK 3x, Marksman, Commando, Monolithic and 50 round mags (I only play solos and prefer the extra mobility to the 10 rounds I’ll almost never use). Combined with an MP5, I can harass snipers and shred anyone mid to short range.
Great video once again. Do you think you could do the mk9 and the Pkm next?
The m13 slaps. My favorite AR next to the Grau.
Bro, the m13 is so slept on.
I would stick with the M13... you'll get more respect that way.
honestly, I feel like they've been secretly buffing the M13 because a few months ago when I used it, it was so much worse than the M4 or atleast it felt nowhere near as good.
@@heyman4899 I used it after that and it was not as strong as the M4, I'm talking about STEALTH BUFF's
@@jordanlazarus7345 it has never been as strong as the m4 and never will be, its just more accurate and has a higher fire rate
I use the Ram 7 since Warzone release and i never saw someone use it. I told the Ram 7 is underrated since everyone say the Grau is the best.
Okay. So if this is the case, watch my man IceManIssac, good WaRzOnE Tactic teachers (not “Do this all the time”), and uses the Ram 7.
Shh let’s keep the ram a secret between you and I
It is the best, since ttk doesn’t matter in warzone like it does in multiplayer, range guns do since that’s where most of your fights are anyways
Garu is the best because you dont need a different sight like the others so its 1 extra attachment you get to use unlike many guns, plus the range and recoil at range is basically perfect combo thats what makes it the best in warzone but not the best in mp. Its a weird fact lol
Grau is broken at range
Because of the faster fire rate and lower recoil of the M13 there is a lot less of a need for long range attachments and eliminates the need for a backup gun in most cases. I personally run mine with the Tempest storm barrel, commando foregrip, 60 round mags, skeleton stock, and the canted optic.
Ace: I prefer the m13 over the ram and m4
The grau 5.56: *no*
Should have put the grau in the mix to ge a true meta-breaking comparison.
Next video: Slow fire rate ARs aka SCAR AK and ODEN
Scar is trash, the other 2 are good if u are good
The AK is so fun and beautiful; I use it when I just want to feel a different but good experience with a AR.
The Oden actually bodies people with the right setup. I’m actually a fan of the iron sights and will run tac laser, colossus suppressor, 810 barrel, ranger, and 25/30 round mags. Fantastic at med range, and semi auto with similar performance to the FAL at longer ranges.
With the oden I use the Colossal suppressor, longest barrel, variable sniper scope, tac laser, 30 round or comando/ranger foregrip
@@mckookie2967 Scar's pretty great over 50mtrs if you're accurate. But god forbid you miss a shot :(
I haven't played cod for over 6 months, but enjoy watching Ace's videos 🤷♂️😅
Wish you would’ve thrown the grau in there, mainly for the distance chart. Nice seeing them all stacked up like that
I still don’t understand why people sleep on the ram 7 like SMH
Less customizability, weird recoil and lower max ammo
In multiplayer it’s so confusing that it’s not used more. Such a quick kill tiem
Shh 🤫 what you mean is it’s horrible and no one should use it right ;)
@oldmansouthside, yeah but once you get used to the recoil, that thing shreds most people from close to medium range, then snipe for longer ranges. I’ll admit I use that set-up only on solos though. The mag capacity isn’t great for squads.
its the worst at range out of the big 4
Damn I thought I was a rebel loving the M13 now everyone gonna use it i gotta try something else
Youre so edgyy and differenttt wowww dudee so coollll
🤦🏾♂️
Ay Im just trippin nothing wrong with them not wanting to use popular guns. As long as they don’t give people a hard time for using a popular gun, I don’t see anything wrong with it
Ay Im just trippin your name says it all
One thing i like about the m13 is the blackout rounds. I use it as my stealth weapon, so the enemy has a hard time pinpointing where the shots are comming from.
Also remeber the m4a1 iron sights in this video require that you either pre-ordered the game, or that you buy a specific blueprint. The default iron sights is much worse, similar to m13.
I see the ram-7 as the perfect weapon to combo with a sniper, great up close, and doesn’t lose power at mid to long ranges either.
Nah bro cuz you can’t put no stock on it. You put no stock on an m4 and it handles like an smg. If ram had a no stock attachment it would be great.
@@tobe.moemeka you have to be a God to control the rams ass recoil, even more if it had no stock. That or I am just a scrub.
@Sebastian Crisostomo 3% can be alot that could be thw difference between dying to gas or surviving
@@idkh9288 I think you're just not used to controlling recoil dude. The RAM barely kicks at all compared to guns like the AK, and I can laser with the AK after practicing the pattern a few times.
M13 is my favorite AR in the game. Warzone has let me use it a lot which I loveeeee. Thanks for this content
Hi! Great video as usual! Just one remark - m4 iron sight in the video is not stock one. It's a blueprint version.
My M13 setup is popular with everyone I showed it to.
Monolithic Sup, Tempes Marksmen, Ranger grip, 50 Round Mag, Stippled Grip
Whenever I see someone getting killed on a loadout, I check if its me
My favourite gun in warzone is actually the Bruen because of it's high damage, and it's almost as controlable as the grau
Agreed. I was a bit late to the Bruen party, but after seeing cheesymofo using it. I decided to grind it whilst Shipment had triple xp. Man I'm impressed, it destroys armour and kills very quickly. Plus great to control.
@Ben Dover you throw a smoke grenade, and kill an enemy in or near it. Do it on shipment. Thrown smoke grenade in middle lanes and have a thermal on an lmg. Play 15 games this way, non stop smoke. Complete each game to the end otherwise it wont count.
What's your attachments for the Bruen? I got max level on it just cant figure out the proper attachments for it on Warzone.
@@bro987 I use monolithic suppressor, 60 round mags, the stock that reduces your ads time, stippled grip tape and pbx holo 7 (i just prefer holo sights because they have a bit of zoom, but not too much.)
I now use the M13 for solo in warzone and it’s amazing, monolithic suppresor, marksman Barrel, vlk3.0 optic, tactical foregrip, and stipples grip tape. And a secondary I use the typical MP5 if there’s a lot of houses and if not the AX-50
I started using the RAM-7 recently and I've really loved it. It just puts people down at close range so quick, and I don't have a problem controlling the recoil.
I'd say the RAM-7 is the best between these 3, though I haven't really used the M13 much
Yeah I just started using it and it’s insane
M13 just feels so good i maxed out both and i aint a fan of the ram i just dont like it at long ranges
I love the m13 most of warzone engagements are far away
Ace says he has a hard time with the recoil which is what a lot of people say, but I’ve been using this gun so much that I’m used to the recoil and can control much more easily
M13 is pretty good if you can control the recoil and it can shred through people especially in warzone with full armor 👌
Hey Ace, there are a few vids about the gun guide series that aren't in the playlist!!
Care to say which ones orrrr
@@malcolmkyeremeh5444 well, since I'm not an admin of Ace's channel, neither getting paid with a thankful message at least for the time being, I'd say that I've done my part as a helpful subscriber. But for the sake of really being helpful and without being specific, i would say from launchers and even a few vids back. I hope you find this comment satisfying, and that I've shown a little care for the matter. Hope you have a great day, my fellow warzoner ;D
@@pepino-cosmico k
love to see a video about actual drop off range for snipers, like at what point you have to aim above a target and how much etc
Well done. Very well put together as usual. My Ram-7 has been my gun since day 1, but I love your build for the M13. Been using it long before this video.
M4: good all-rounder even after nerfs
RAM: strong up close, not so good at range
M13: headshot machine, peanut shooter otherwise
I love the Ram. It’s my favorite AR to use in the game.
I call mine the Ram rancher LOL. It’s a laser beam the way I have it setup for search. No one uses it and people are so confused when I kill them and you can hear them for a couple seconds
Can you do a video on the AUG in warzone with the 5.56 ammo conversion, I've tried it but want to know how it compares to other weapons
I think a lot of people sleep on the M13 with the internally suppressed barrel. I ended up creating the "Cagefighter" variant and I have a great time on rust 👍
But we all know that the Grau takes the cake.
Jonathan Lee for battle royal id say sometimes in plunder and your looting in a building and someone has a m4 most likely your screwed even if your aiming at the head
Ram-7 shreds the Grau at any range. In my hands at least. Most people aren’t comfortable getting into 70 meter gunfights with the Ram.
Idk anymore, it's definitely the most user-friendly gun but I think a more skilled player can push an M13 farther than they can a Grau
I’ve used all extensively but feel like the m13 is a laser beam compared to the grau. I’m able to down people at 150m with the m13 😂
The Grau is the top dog in Warzone, but in multiplayer that gun gets outclassed by quite a few other rifles.
I'm still going to use the M13.. I tell myself I'm going to try something different then at the last minute M13.
Honestly, there should be a game mode where all of the meta weapons are removed. The amount of times I've been trying to use new guns then been forced to switch to the MP5 to teach them a lesson is mind numbing.
You should do a whole video on the different iron sights depending on blueprints. the m4 has better sights with the warzone blueprint.
M13 is just so accurate at long ranges and I rock the 3.0x scope and it’s like a sniper no gun compares
Before I watch. I’m assuming he’s trying to convince people to ditch the Grau
T S no he already made a comparison video for the slower fire rate 5.56 rifles
Only reason it's good is because most players are garbage. Good players are better with the ram or m4 because of higher dps
Jeremiah C my favorite part of the game is the gun Smith. I could never just use one
Last time I was this early, I actually won the gulag 🥴
The gulag is so garbage now
Stanly Ramos
But they have rifles/smgs!
It’s waaaay better then getting the 725..
Stanly Ramos facts!! The gulag used to be balanced when everyone had shit guns, now It’s just who camps and lasers the other person first, fuckin broken 😭
@@dio1665 it is people just camp in the back with there m4s and before it would require skill because you were using a pistol
5:37
M13 with Cyclone Barrel is the realistic build?
For at least the recoil comparison put the Tempus Marksman there.
I've settled into using the RAM-7 with ranger barrel, commando foregrip and scout optic. Yes it can be hindered at range and sometimes I have to fire in bursts but if used well it's surprising how far out it can reach. I also really like the M13 as well but tend to use that more in team games. I use the M4 as a last minute loadout with fully loaded equipped if I'm dropping back in at the start of zone 5.
Ive been watching all of Ace's modern warfare videos and I just realized ive never subscribed to his page. Shame on me.
Ok Ram 7 I see you🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🏆
M13 is 100% my favorite assault rifle and gun for that matter and it has been since I first started playing.
1:58 he called the M4 the M16. Not a problem at all just thought I'd point it out. Dropping a like as always
If I’m correct and the M4A1 they’re using in the game is the original and the only difference between it and the m16a3 is a shorter barrel. If you use the Corvus it’s a m16a3 and if you use the grenadier it’s a m16a1 I believe. Then of course the burst attachment lets you make the A2/A4. I’m stubborn and use the anime variant for the handrail ironsights
@@nathanforsythe8480 I also like to use the handrail irons but I use the "OG" blueprint from season 0. Gives it a classic M16 look.
Ace Man True I didn’t play much then so I didn’t get it but I picked up the anime pack just for the m16(wish it had purple bullets like the new Grau or green bullets to rep Nam a bit lol). I really wish that when you amke a variant of a gun it changes the name it displays. Cool touch that hopefully gets added for their next game
Haha notification go brr
I really like the RAM but I don’t like warzone...
it took me like 10 games to get hooked, thought it was shit but then it clicked for me
You any good at it? How many kills a game you average?
Love hate relationship for me .... I like the mode but just like MP it’s the way some folks play it that can be annoying as f***.
The multiplier looks way more fun than warzone but unfortunately it’s too late to buy it :(.
@@m4TT5 wdym its too late the sale has like 2 weeks left
Love the video, I run that same m13 bc of you but I changed the skeleton stock to stippled grip just bc it ended up feeling better for me. Thanks for the insight again, you’re always helping with my attachment and gun choices!
one thing that has a huge effect imo in warzone = you can pick m4s off the ground. So an m4 user can run the m4 all game and have that short term muscle memory, where as m13 and ram's are rarer and annoying to use.