This is awesome. I built a gate from 1x2's and screws for my mom's porch so her little dog doesn't get out. I made it pretty and put 2 small ball bearing casters on the bottom for it to roll in case it started dragging. I was so proud of myself and it seemed perfect but my mom said after it rained, it started dragging. I haven't been over there to assess it yet but I think (and hope) raising it slightly and using your no-sag method will fix it as long as the problem isn't rotten posts (porch is very old). Thanks so much for demonstrating. You did a great job showing how to make an easy fix! 👍😊
*Nice Brother, I appreciate the info. Been a fence installer foreman for 3 years at the most expensive fence company in the State... lot of rich, picky people!* *I'm working on a Custom 6 foot Horizontal Cedar fence, with 1×6×6 and a ½" gap in between.* *The customer is picky and doesn't want any diagonal wood bracing on the gate at all.* *I tried to explain the importance of framing gates, and how easy a wooden gate will rack/sag without proper framing...* *They don't care. I'm PRAYING that this method alone with hold the weight of the gate up after box framing the edges.* *What do you think?*
Ask them if they want to pay for a gate that will sag or do they want to pay for a gate that's built to last. If they still choose the saggy gate, write up a disclaimer that says something to the affect of "customer rejects structural recommendations and requests a gate built in a way that lacks structural integrity. Customer understands to build a gate in this manner voids any and all warranties" and have them sign it or rethink their decision! LOL!😄
You could make a nice business of fabricating the truss cable kits out of all stainless. Anchors you cut and drill from angle (stainless or aluminum). Threaded eyebolt and nut on one end for adjustment instead of costly turnbuckle. Cable stop on the other end of stainless cable. You would have a few $hundreds invested in cable crimping tooling. I've used threaded rod and nuts which makes the mechanism even simpler and field configurable, although the rod is more pricey than cable.
This worked fine, for awhile. Now it drags again. When I tighten the turnbuckle, it just makes it bow outward at the top. Maybe I need to try and find a metal caster to add to the underside. It opens outward over sidewalk. I have two gates that are now doing the same thing. Sigh.
My gate is 8ft. Are the cables one size fits all or do I need something different? Also, my gate is already sagging . Would it need to be lifted before tightening the turn buckle?
Double gates use the same latch in conjunction with a drop rod to anchor one leaf in the ground. We usually will not exceed 6’ for any cedar gate leaf without a steel frame.Here is a link to a double gate kit. www.swifence.com/western-gate-harware-set-black-double-drive.html
So u didn't say rather or not it made any difference which side , top/bottom the anti sag should be mounted or of ot matters which I'm certain it does, so I'm going to assume the anti sag needs to be mounted from top ,where gate gate hinges are to bottom of opposite side!
You're going to have to take it off and reattach. Make sure you're using 2 1/2" or 3" screws to anchor your hinges. If you can't find a solid place to screw into you may have to pull the post and put in a new one (more work).
If the gate is pulling the post out of the ground then the problem is the post. The only solution for this is to pull the post out and reinstall another one correctly. It doesn't sound like it's anywhere deep enough.
Hi my fence is a year old and my 5 foot gate has a steel frame, and already had to reposition the latch because is start to sagged, will this cable help me… thanks
Hi. ❓❓❓ Question... I was actually wondering about how to resolve the issue if hinges are the problem. I'm not sure I totally understand what you're advising. I built a porch gate for my mom and I'm told it's now dragging after some rain. I haven't assessed it yet but if the hinges are the problem, I think you are saying I need to attach one end of the cable to the same post where the gate is attached, right? ❓Then where do I attach the other end of the cable? Does it go on the bottom corner of the gate on the opposite side? Thanks so much for mentioning this!
My gate middle will be decorative so the tension and compression elements would look ugly and ruin the effect. Wouldn't J bolts and a rotating wheel( like a shopping cart but heavy duty) work as well? The "artistic" gate I'm planning is 2×6 lumber rectangle frame with 3/4 J bolts. I am using half lap jointinting with two bolts spaced in the middle of the joints for additional strength. Would the wheels be a good enough option for preventing sag along with the J bolts and 12 inch straps? Each gate section is 8 feet long 4 feet tall. 2x6 lumber.
With the 4’ x 8’ gate you would almost want to consider a metal frame structure. A wheel may work but we try not to use them, so I don’t know a ton there. We like our gates to be operable without additional components.
@@SWiFence yes, definitely helpful. There's already a tension cord on my gate and its touching the ground. I haven't went out there yet, but I'm going out to see if it can be tightened and if not, I'll redo it according to your video. Thanks so much!
@@REAPER0121 Because it is better to have a cross brace that is in compression rather than a tension cable that will constantly need adjustments. Have both is a waste of time and money because they defeat one another
This is awesome. I built a gate from 1x2's and screws for my mom's porch so her little dog doesn't get out. I made it pretty and put 2 small ball bearing casters on the bottom for it to roll in case it started dragging. I was so proud of myself and it seemed perfect but my mom said after it rained, it started dragging. I haven't been over there to assess it yet but I think (and hope) raising it slightly and using your no-sag method will fix it as long as the problem isn't rotten posts (porch is very old). Thanks so much for demonstrating. You did a great job showing how to make an easy fix! 👍😊
Thank you!
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That was indeed 'a good video', Solves my problem nicely. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
*Nice Brother, I appreciate the info. Been a fence installer foreman for 3 years at the most expensive fence company in the State... lot of rich, picky people!*
*I'm working on a Custom 6 foot Horizontal Cedar fence, with 1×6×6 and a ½" gap in between.*
*The customer is picky and doesn't want any diagonal wood bracing on the gate at all.*
*I tried to explain the importance of framing gates, and how easy a wooden gate will rack/sag without proper framing...*
*They don't care. I'm PRAYING that this method alone with hold the weight of the gate up after box framing the edges.*
*What do you think?*
I get what your saying but that gate brace is a key element, without it your going to be the first person they call when their gate won’t open.
I would tell them that the sagging is not warrantied, so when the time comes to do it right, you charge again.
Ask them if they want to pay for a gate that will sag or do they want to pay for a gate that's built to last. If they still choose the saggy gate, write up a disclaimer that says something to the affect of "customer rejects structural recommendations and requests a gate built in a way that lacks structural integrity. Customer understands to build a gate in this manner voids any and all warranties" and have them sign it or rethink their decision! LOL!😄
If they do not want to look at a gate brace, they sure won't want to look at that cable and turnbuckle.
Worked great on a friend's gate. Thank you !
Great to hear!
You could make a nice business of fabricating the truss cable kits out of all stainless. Anchors you cut and drill from angle (stainless or aluminum). Threaded eyebolt and nut on one end for adjustment instead of costly turnbuckle. Cable stop on the other end of stainless cable. You would have a few $hundreds invested in cable crimping tooling. I've used threaded rod and nuts which makes the mechanism even simpler and field configurable, although the rod is more pricey than cable.
Great video! What angle do you cut the boards at for your compression boards?
Good job
Hey thanks!
Boom...just what I was looking for...nice job...and nice Old School car!
Thank you so very much. Now I know how to fix MyGate. God bless you.❤
Glad it helped!
I was thinking on screwing that anti sag cable to the post, to hel to the hinges, given that the gate is too heavy.
This worked fine, for awhile. Now it drags again. When I tighten the turnbuckle, it just makes it bow outward at the top. Maybe I need to try and find a metal caster to add to the underside. It opens outward over sidewalk. I have two gates that are now doing the same thing. Sigh.
not surprising
Would placing at 45 degree be needed here too?
I have a 6 ft gate and hope this works.
My gate is 8ft. Are the cables one size fits all or do I need something different? Also, my gate is already sagging . Would it need to be lifted before tightening the turn buckle?
The cable is one-size-fits-all (up to a certain point--it's a 9'-long cable). Yes--you should lift the gate before setting the turn buckle.
Thanks
No problem
Will this work on a J bolt installed gate?
If you have a swaging tool and a turn buckle. And some ingenuity
What is the maximum gate width for this style of gate? what about a (2) gate opening, how to best attach the gates together?
Double gates use the same latch in conjunction with a drop rod to anchor one leaf in the ground. We usually will not exceed 6’ for any cedar gate leaf without a steel frame.Here is a link to a double gate kit. www.swifence.com/western-gate-harware-set-black-double-drive.html
Omg. This is what I need. Does home depot sell this?
Possibly. I know we do. 😁 bit.ly/anti-sagkit
Wish you were in Texas
You got this! 👍🏻
So u didn't say rather or not it made any difference which side , top/bottom the anti sag should be mounted or of ot matters which I'm certain it does, so I'm going to assume the anti sag needs to be mounted from top ,where gate gate hinges are to bottom of opposite side!
You are correct.
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You shold not need this cable . The brace on this gate is perfect angle 45 or less. Nice built gate.
Thanks! The cable is further insurance.
Love all the great content 👍
Thanks!
Great info! Replacing our fence soon and will do something like this. What would you say is the spacing between the pickets on that gate?
I think the spacing is the thickness of a picket so 5/8 of an inch.
A fence guy told the that picket spacing, should be one nail thickness.
Would this work for a 55" gate attached to 3.5" Galvanized Steel Posts? Or would a gate that size be too large for a post of that size?
Yes the anti-sag kit would work for a gate that size.
❓❓ Question... How should I remedy a sagging probably if hinges are the culprit causing sag on a porch gate? Thanks!!🙂
You're going to have to take it off and reattach. Make sure you're using 2 1/2" or 3" screws to anchor your hinges. If you can't find a solid place to screw into you may have to pull the post and put in a new one (more work).
Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
I have a question: how much are you paying for your fence wood boards? Cedar
What about metal bracket fence? My game is so heavy. It is pulling the post right out of the ground. It’s a real problem. I don’t know what to do.
If the gate is pulling the post out of the ground then the problem is the post. The only solution for this is to pull the post out and reinstall another one correctly. It doesn't sound like it's anywhere deep enough.
Hi my fence is a year old and my 5 foot gate has a steel frame, and already had to reposition the latch because is start to sagged, will this cable help me… thanks
I can't say for sure without seeing it but I would be surprised if it didn't help.
@@SWiFence thanks
I need an alternative to those brackets because the upper corner has the hinge too close to the end so the bracket won't fit on the gate corner.
I would consider changing he hinges.
This is true unless the sag comes from the hinges. The cable should then be between the support post and the next post or structure.
Hi. ❓❓❓ Question... I was actually wondering about how to resolve the issue if hinges are the problem. I'm not sure I totally understand what you're advising. I built a porch gate for my mom and I'm told it's now dragging after some rain. I haven't assessed it yet but if the hinges are the problem, I think you are saying I need to attach one end of the cable to the same post where the gate is attached, right? ❓Then where do I attach the other end of the cable? Does it go on the bottom corner of the gate on the opposite side? Thanks so much for mentioning this!
Just curious what kind of wood is used to build this gate?
Cedar! Only way to go. 👍🏻
My gate middle will be decorative so the tension and compression elements would look ugly and ruin the effect. Wouldn't J bolts and a rotating wheel( like a shopping cart but heavy duty) work as well? The "artistic" gate I'm planning is 2×6 lumber rectangle frame with 3/4 J bolts. I am using half lap jointinting with two bolts spaced in the middle of the joints for additional strength. Would the wheels be a good enough option for preventing sag along with the J bolts and 12 inch straps? Each gate section is 8 feet long 4 feet tall. 2x6 lumber.
With the 4’ x 8’ gate you would almost want to consider a metal frame structure. A wheel may work but we try not to use them, so I don’t know a ton there. We like our gates to be operable without additional components.
Why do you have silicone on the wood?
🤣🤣🤣 That's snow. 👍🏻
Thank you! This is all I needed to know. ❤
Glad it was helpful!
@@SWiFence yes, definitely helpful. There's already a tension cord on my gate and its touching the ground. I haven't went out there yet, but I'm going out to see if it can be tightened and if not, I'll redo it according to your video. Thanks so much!
@@SWiFence Omg I just went out and adjusted it and it worked! Awesome!! Thank you so much!!!
Important question for you pros....strap hinge or t post hinge? 😊
We prefer strap hinges for this application. czcams.com/video/k3W2wd2sK4o/video.html
Where I can buy the cable
bit.ly/anti-sagkit
You guys are awesome👏🏾
Oh pshaw! You know who's awesome? Gary Robinson, III! That's who!
@@SWiFence what materials did you use? Stainless steel rope? What is the gauge?
Hey, I'm from Florida now. What what that white stuff sitting on the cross member on that gate?
And why such thick gloves? 😋
That's known as powdered sunshine! 😆
We have white stuff we drive in as well, we call it sand though.
Damn, pulling a trailer with that beauty😊...
🤣
Is that an old caprice pulling that trailer? 😅😅
Didn’t show how he did the top cable thing or even zoom in :/
02:15 feels pretty zoomed in to me. 🙂 J-bolt goes in the bracket, cable goes in the j-bolt (same way as at the bottom).
Can you come fix my gate please
If only we could! 😞
Those are some big gaps and that wood hasn't even shrunk yet
That's what a semi-privacy fence/gate looks like. If you want full privacy you don't leave any space.
Yup pretty cool👍🏽
thanks!
Good video but corney
Ah well, we can only be what we already are... 😉
not a good solution
Why
@@REAPER0121 Because it is better to have a cross brace that is in compression rather than a tension cable that will constantly need adjustments. Have both is a waste of time and money because they defeat one another
you sure are cute.
Aw shucks! 😋