I really enjoyed your previous video on European comics about Western and was hoping for another similar video. You did not disappoint. Great job once again. I listen to a lot of channels about comics but there isn't enough content about European comic. Thank you for filling the void. I love your channel more every week. Please keep these videos coming! Cheers from Canada.
great video. Those Bruno Brazil books are standouts from that stack of old TinTin magazines I came across locally. Problem was that every story that appealed to me art wise had zero English translations....Thanks for sharing these, love it!
Another superb brew from the Earl! A fine choice of euro gems. I have the Cinebook versions of XIII, a great classic comic but the quality of the Dargaud book is poor, the glue on the binding will fail after a couple of years, I’m very jealous of your hard covers. Did you know Alex Toth drew the first 2 episodes of Torpedo before Bernet took over? Referring to another comment to this video, I’m with you on the anthropomorphic character tip, Usagi and TMNT (the early trades) all day but I am quite selective on others in this style! I will say Blacksad is very good though, it was recommended by a good Belgian mate of mine and I really dug it, the art and colouring is really really top notch. And Tardi, yes, he’s the best, there’s is no more to add. Thanks for all your fantastic videos.
oh, didn't know about Toth starting Torpedo... but yes, makes sense... was it one of the last works from Toth? Now you're already the 3rd or 4th commentary recommending Blacksad! I think I'll probably have to reconsider my assessment.
Not a fan of Vittorio Giardino? Surprised you didn't mention any of his books, specially Max Fridman adventures, couldn't find more classic example of quality espionage comics. And a shame Jerome K. Jerome series had been cancelled after just two volumes (publishing them in singles wasn't best idea anyway). Two more recommendations from me - The Disarment by fantastic duo, Pirus and Mezzo (quite violent crime noir, for me on the same level as Stray Bullets, only one from two volumes published in English) and Saint Elme from F. Peeters and S. Lehman, one of my favourite titles of last year, with a lot of Lynch/Coen Brothers vibes.
thanks for the recommendations! As to Giardino: Actually I've did a deeper dive into his comics AFTER panellogy 280, so if I could redo that video I would put him into one of these lists for sure... actually I'm stalling on a a fave adventure comics for years now.
Love Torpedo and Tardi. Looks like there have been 2 volumes of Jackie Kottwitz in English as "Jerome K. Jerome Bloche Vol 1"...and "Vol. 2". Need to finally start XIII and Dylan Dog. Thanks for showing us the goodies!
I hope IDW will continue the JKJB-series, esp. since Dodier's storytelling improves after these volumes. Actually I wouldn't recommend to pick up the first two if they are not accompanied by more recent stories.
It's been about a year since Vol. 2 was released, so they might be done, unfortunately. Did you show where the thumbnail image came from? I dig the extreme foreshortening with the nicely silhouetted tree in the back.
It would be a shame if they won't publish more... but tbh I've seen this coming: you can't expect a pretty unknown (even in Europe) series with such a "bumpy" named title character to be an instant success, esp. when one needs at least three or more volumes to really get into it. The thumb is from the cover image of one of the collected editions of Rick Master/Ric Hochet ... and yes it's very decorative.
If you aren't adverse to digital comics, the digital comic only publisher Europe Comics has 3 Jerome books out. Vol. 23-25. I wondered why they started at that point but the stories are pretty good and really don't require any prior knowledge of the characters.
very jealous of those Bruno Brazil books, like so many books you show I wish it had an English translation. perhaps I'll just buy them in another language and stumble my way through them anyways!
Zu blöd, dass die Bruno Brazil Gesamtausgabe Nr. 1 seit Jahren ausverkauft ist... Zwei schöne Tipps nehme ich aus dem Video mit: L. Frank und Detektei Hardy! Genau auf diese Art historische Settings habe ich gerade Lust.
Hi, im curious if you would have included dieter lumpen in this list if it was european :) and if so, on which position? I cant find it in english anymore.. it was everywhere and now the stock is completely depleted. Thanks for the excellent content ure providing “as always”!
actually I have to rewatch my own videos to remind myself about my exact ranking two years ago... but Pellejero is spanish and even the Argentinians like Zentner have been included in these lists.... so Lumpen should have been included. Easily in the top 5... Strange! No: here's the solution czcams.com/video/3dlkhCtQjT8/video.html (since it was a "short" run I included it in the list with fave Euro graphic novels)
@@earlgrey862 thank you very much, you’ve been a really good help throughout the years. I was thinking that a video with recommendations for people would have great success.. in the video you could advice people how to keep the comment short like “i liked these 3 books, this is what i like in graphic novels and this is what I dont. Personal remark: i like cowboys in pink dresses”. And based on this u could point one or a few books. :) what do you think?
@@sinkronize I don't know. I think that all my videos are more or less recommendations, even the overviews (I bought my books because I was interested in them and I haven't sold them since because I still like them). I just like and try to talk about some loose thoughts and observations sometimes about one book sometimes about a bunch ... and same goes for the comments: whatever people like to write is fine for me... and me and my wallet don't need "to buy"-lists (as much as I value recommendations from my viewers).
great comics! I did not know the majority of them, a part Dylan Dog which is a fumetto that (because of the formula where different artists create it) can be amzing or dull....some artists\writers are amazing and deliver incredible experiences, some are a mix bag as the graphics are great but the story poor or viceversa....or completely dull when both are bad...anyway thank you for uploading, will research about those comics...I'm attracted from what I saw from Torpedo...cheers!
I agree on Dylan Dog being very dependent of the artist and writer involved... the german edition I've shown started with some of the best stories of that series IMO
Danke und ... tja, das ist einer der Comics die ich (noch) nicht gelesen habe :/ ... wie eine ganze Reihe anderer Comics auch, insofern sind diese Listen natürlich extremst subjektiv und könnten in ein paar Jahren ganz anders aussehen.
Long video means long reply! The list is pretty good, but I have noticed that you prefer mostly classic and old fashioned european comics, while this can't be said for US' titles that you often talk about new and ongoing series too. It's not about talking of them only, but you have high consideration for them while the newest EU comics don't. Maybe it is because they aren't published? For example I'm no where near your love for XIII but it was topped by Deadly Class! Well, I don't know how, even if I look at the art, where again Vance isn't even near the top 50 EU artist in my opinion, but hey, the art on Deadly Class is really mainstream, digital and "cool" for teenagers. Well, opinions can differ of course, but have you thought about the old fashioned eu comics? I mean this list, like the western's one, ranges from 50's to 80's series if I'm not wrong. Then, if I got it right, in a list not limited to EU, would even be one of them in your top 10? Brubaker's crime stories, Sin City and more modern series would all top XIII for you? Or was it only Stray Bullets and Deadly Class? Don't get me wrong, this one isn't a "best" list, but favourite and one can't really say why you didn't put X while Y is in the list. It's personal taste list, where the heart counts more than the mind. Nonetheless, here we feel all your love for these comics while the western's one was maybe more reasoned? The 1st position shows it all. Let me add that the crime, detective, noir and espionage genre is too wide, there are tons of titles and it would take too much time to check the ones I've read and starto to think if it can be included in the category or not (you added Dylan even though it deals with horror/fantasy, then I could also include Andreas' Capricorne though it is more sci-fi? Things like this), but maybe if I have to consider only my personal taste I would put Adele (or Torpedo) in the 1st position too! I've just re-read it last month and I also love Adele Blanc Sec but I don't consider it one of Tardi's best, even if we consider only his noir comics. Btw, here in Italy seems that I'm the only one that likes Adele, most consider it really bad ... When it comes to Adele, though, even Tardi himself doesn't like it that much, he continued because it sold well, the latest albums weren't drawn with his typical attention and sometimes they feel rushed, the 10th album didn't even come out because he didn't finish it, while he continued his war comics. In the end he even says more than one time in Adele Blanc Sec series something like this "Obviously it's bad, people like it" referring to different stuffs, like the Pazuzu theatre, while on the other hand he had to stop The Arctic Marauder, that predates Adele, because people didn't like it and Tardi' got his revenge showing The Arctic Marauder cover in Adele a lot of times, even linked it to a story and said it was good xD Well, I miss the Detective Hardy, it wasn't published unfortunately, but the rest of them I know and from these the best is Nestor Burma in my opinion. Obviously only the 5 tomes that Tardi did and 120 Rue de la Gare is the best of the series. Also, why only comic series and no one shots? For example Tardi-Manchette's ones, if I have to name only one I would say Griffu (1974) which had extremely modern dialogues. Oh, and Torpedo? I really love it and I' m sorry for the french that had to publish everything from Argentina or Spain in color, this means original b&w colored by their studios. I think that the german edition is based on the french one. Ridiculous, Bernet is amazing ... To really appreciate Abuli's writing (like in the case of Asterix) one has to read it in original, there are tons of puns not translatable, unless the translator does a wonderful job creating new ones for the country he is translating. In this case I was lucky and infact I've never laughed so much reading a comic. Some gags will never leave my mind and they work perfectly with the drawings, the faces while Torelli says them! In fact Alex Toth's Torpedo was nothing compared to Bernet's. Toth left because he couldn't stand Abuli's stories and changed them a bit when he drew them. I don't consider it a masterpiece and a few stories weren't as good as the series standards. Though, you can't say it is classic, it is maybe vintage but his black humour is nowhere near the normal gangster story and Luca Torelli ain't a hero, neither an anti-hero, he is just a worm, in the most beautiful sense. I don't think that there was anything like Torpedo and maybe there isn't still. Like some one else said, if you read only Dylan Dog best stories, which means only the ones written by his creator, then it's good but in general the standard isn't that high. The Bonelli long series are like the superheroes, hundreds of albums done by different artist ... Funny thing you included The Aristocrats, but Castelli wrote a lot of better stories, he is also the creator of Martin Mystere and since you know Dylan you may also know it. You didn't miss anything from Diabolik, it didn't age well. From outside this list I have to mention one from Magnus, the author that I already mentioned in the previous video, and it's called Lo Sconosciuto or maybe Unknow worldwide. If it is translated, check it out. This one changed the rules of Nero Italiano, like Alack Sinner did for the detective/noir comics. You consider Alack argentinian and not european, right? Even though it was published in Italy, but this doesn't change the fact that it is argentinian to the bone. Alright, the best and not my favourite crime comic that I've ever read would be the experimental wordless comic 3 Secondes by Marc-Antoine Mathieu. Maybe this genre, like western, sci-fi and even more historical has so many titles that it's better to stop at classics, but the real pearls may be hidden, like for any other media.
oha... let's see if I can answer at least some of your questions... respectively react to some of your comments... why only series? Well, I've read a lot of European series in the last couple of months so I figured, let's try to put them in some kind of order. And I had to draw a line somewhere - but regardless, I'm planning a separate video with my fave standalone books from Europe as well.... why the old stuff? hmm, because of different reasons: I would like to include a fancy new series in here, but in terms of crime series, I just don't know about a recent exciting one... and series in general are very much a thing of the past when they could be pre-published in the different french and belgian comic magazines of back then. Today there are much more graphic novels... or at least this is my impression... but of course I can only judge by the stuff that is translated and published in Germany. And being an old guy myself the old stuff has some kind of a natural appeal for me :) Dylan Dog, Aristocrati .... well, it's just a subjective list, but thanks for the hints and info I haven't known about Tardi's disdain for his Adele comics... but maybe this was one of the reasons for him to fool around with the story and fill it with all the sweet imbecility that I love so much. It would not be the first work of an artist that could overcome the test of time despite of its creator's disdain.
@@earlgrey862 a separate video with my fave standalone books from Europe as well.... I see, then you will cover a lot of stuffs, more than I thought. Today there are much more graphic novels... or at least this is my impression... but of course I can only judge by the stuff that is translated and published in Germany. I have to say that this is true for Italy, where the series only remains a Bonelli thing, maybe also in Germany and Spain, but in France there are still lot of series. The difference with France is caused by the amount of tomes published, it increased by 5 or more times in a few years. That's a bad thing because the medium quality went down and it creates a conflict of interest. Schuiten said goodbye to comics after the release of his Blake and Mortimer tome for this reason. Also, the pubblications in other countries often privileges the less interesting titles because they could sell better. So, yeah, there is also the pubblication problem, that became serious in Italy too, we almost don't have french pubblications anymore since they don't sell. Or only recently we're getting some german comics.
unfortunately only a few... I did a short google-search for each title & if I could find an English (or Italian or....) version I had put it into the screentext in the video.
A little addition is Ric Hocet and Jerome K. Jerome Bloche are published by Europe Comics digitally. And Dylan Dog stories are being put out in English currently by Epicenter Comics.
Ah, Bernet and Abuli, it's hard to find a better representation of noir comic book art in Europe. But when it comes to crime and espionage I do have a few questions. Firstly, don't Tintin, Freddy Lombard and January Jones technically qualify? And secondly... Where are the Bilal/Christine collaborations? Where are the The Black Order Brigade and The Hunting Party? And finally, where is Diabolik? You can't get any more into crime and espionage then Diabolik, not in european comics at least. If Japan's Golgo 13 and the US' The Phantom fused in a DBZ like fashion Diabolik would be that fusion. (ok, maybe with a bit of Arsene Lupin and Lupin the III sprinkled in that mix) Don't get me wrong. I can't take Adele Blanc Sec or Torpedo from you. but come on. No Diabolik? Also, no love for Blacksad?
as to Tintin, January Jones and Enki Bilal: this is not my last list! ;) ... for an example I plan to do a list with comics with a certain historic background in which January Jones will fit in perfectly (yeah, also Adele, I know... but I have my reasons) I have a stack of Diabolik, but since they're all in Italian (with one exception) I only can guess, that these are great comics. And Blacksad is one of these comics that I have held a couple of times in my comic shop but haven't bought it... aside from Donald and Usagi I'm pretty picky with anthropomorphic animals.
@@earlgrey862 Blacksad uses animals in a fable kind of way. The animals aren't used as some sort of furry bait but as metaphors for real life populations. Something similar to Zootopia, just a bit more "grown up" since it's technically a noir detective series - in full color and with animals...
I really enjoyed your previous video on European comics about Western and was hoping for another similar video. You did not disappoint. Great job once again. I listen to a lot of channels about comics but there isn't enough content about European comic. Thank you for filling the void. I love your channel more every week. Please keep these videos coming! Cheers from Canada.
thank you, you're welcome
great video. Those Bruno Brazil books are standouts from that stack of old TinTin magazines I came across locally. Problem was that every story that appealed to me art wise had zero English translations....Thanks for sharing these, love it!
Another superb brew from the Earl! A fine choice of euro gems. I have the Cinebook versions of XIII, a great classic comic but the quality of the Dargaud book is poor, the glue on the binding will fail after a couple of years, I’m very jealous of your hard covers.
Did you know Alex Toth drew the first 2 episodes of Torpedo before Bernet took over?
Referring to another comment to this video, I’m with you on the anthropomorphic character tip, Usagi and TMNT (the early trades) all day but I am quite selective on others in this style! I will say Blacksad is very good though, it was recommended by a good Belgian mate of mine and I really dug it, the art and colouring is really really top notch. And Tardi, yes, he’s the best, there’s is no more to add. Thanks for all your fantastic videos.
oh, didn't know about Toth starting Torpedo... but yes, makes sense... was it one of the last works from Toth?
Now you're already the 3rd or 4th commentary recommending Blacksad! I think I'll probably have to reconsider my assessment.
Not a fan of Vittorio Giardino? Surprised you didn't mention any of his books, specially Max Fridman adventures, couldn't find more classic example of quality espionage comics. And a shame Jerome K. Jerome series had been cancelled after just two volumes (publishing them in singles wasn't best idea anyway). Two more recommendations from me - The Disarment by fantastic duo, Pirus and Mezzo (quite violent crime noir, for me on the same level as Stray Bullets, only one from two volumes published in English) and Saint Elme from F. Peeters and S. Lehman, one of my favourite titles of last year, with a lot of Lynch/Coen Brothers vibes.
thanks for the recommendations! As to Giardino: Actually I've did a deeper dive into his comics AFTER panellogy 280, so if I could redo that video I would put him into one of these lists for sure... actually I'm stalling on a a fave adventure comics for years now.
Love Torpedo and Tardi. Looks like there have been 2 volumes of Jackie Kottwitz in English as "Jerome K. Jerome Bloche Vol 1"...and "Vol. 2". Need to finally start XIII and Dylan Dog. Thanks for showing us the goodies!
I hope IDW will continue the JKJB-series, esp. since Dodier's storytelling improves after these volumes. Actually I wouldn't recommend to pick up the first two if they are not accompanied by more recent stories.
It's been about a year since Vol. 2 was released, so they might be done, unfortunately. Did you show where the thumbnail image came from? I dig the extreme foreshortening with the nicely silhouetted tree in the back.
It would be a shame if they won't publish more... but tbh I've seen this coming: you can't expect a pretty unknown (even in Europe) series with such a "bumpy" named title character to be an instant success, esp. when one needs at least three or more volumes to really get into it.
The thumb is from the cover image of one of the collected editions of Rick Master/Ric Hochet ... and yes it's very decorative.
If you aren't adverse to digital comics, the digital comic only publisher Europe Comics has 3 Jerome books out. Vol. 23-25. I wondered why they started at that point but the stories are pretty good and really don't require any prior knowledge of the characters.
Awesome list. Have you ever read Jazz Maynard? Great action/crime comic.
nope... never have even heard about it, until now, thanks for the recommendation
very jealous of those Bruno Brazil books, like so many books you show I wish it had an English translation. perhaps I'll just buy them in another language and stumble my way through them anyways!
yeah, sometimes I do this with french books.
Zu blöd, dass die Bruno Brazil Gesamtausgabe Nr. 1 seit Jahren ausverkauft ist... Zwei schöne Tipps nehme ich aus dem Video mit: L. Frank und Detektei Hardy! Genau auf diese Art historische Settings habe ich gerade Lust.
Hi, im curious if you would have included dieter lumpen in this list if it was european :) and if so, on which position? I cant find it in english anymore.. it was everywhere and now the stock is completely depleted. Thanks for the excellent content ure providing “as always”!
actually I have to rewatch my own videos to remind myself about my exact ranking two years ago... but Pellejero is spanish and even the Argentinians like Zentner have been included in these lists.... so Lumpen should have been included. Easily in the top 5... Strange! No: here's the solution czcams.com/video/3dlkhCtQjT8/video.html (since it was a "short" run I included it in the list with fave Euro graphic novels)
@@earlgrey862 thank you very much, you’ve been a really good help throughout the years. I was thinking that a video with recommendations for people would have great success.. in the video you could advice people how to keep the comment short like “i liked these 3 books, this is what i like in graphic novels and this is what I dont. Personal remark: i like cowboys in pink dresses”. And based on this u could point one or a few books. :) what do you think?
@@sinkronize I don't know. I think that all my videos are more or less recommendations, even the overviews (I bought my books because I was interested in them and I haven't sold them since because I still like them). I just like and try to talk about some loose thoughts and observations sometimes about one book sometimes about a bunch ... and same goes for the comments: whatever people like to write is fine for me... and me and my wallet don't need "to buy"-lists (as much as I value recommendations from my viewers).
great comics! I did not know the majority of them, a part Dylan Dog which is a fumetto that (because of the formula where different artists create it) can be amzing or dull....some artists\writers are amazing and deliver incredible experiences, some are a mix bag as the graphics are great but the story poor or viceversa....or completely dull when both are bad...anyway thank you for uploading, will research about those comics...I'm attracted from what I saw from Torpedo...cheers!
I agree on Dylan Dog being very dependent of the artist and writer involved... the german edition I've shown started with some of the best stories of that series IMO
Wie immer super informativ...nur warum hat es Jeff Jordan nicht in dein ranking geschafft?!? :D
Danke und ... tja, das ist einer der Comics die ich (noch) nicht gelesen habe :/
... wie eine ganze Reihe anderer Comics auch, insofern sind diese Listen natürlich extremst subjektiv und könnten in ein paar Jahren ganz anders aussehen.
earl grey ...ach so, also dann betrachte meinen Kommentar eher als Empfehlung :)
Oh happy day!
Can you tell me which book the thumbnail picture is from?!
it's the cover from the 4th Vol of the Gesamtausgabe
Long video means long reply!
The list is pretty good, but I have noticed that you prefer mostly classic and old fashioned european comics, while this can't be said for US' titles that you often talk about new and ongoing series too. It's not about talking of them only, but you have high consideration for them while the newest EU comics don't. Maybe it is because they aren't published? For example I'm no where near your love for XIII but it was topped by Deadly Class! Well, I don't know how, even if I look at the art, where again Vance isn't even near the top 50 EU artist in my opinion, but hey, the art on Deadly Class is really mainstream, digital and "cool" for teenagers. Well, opinions can differ of course, but have you thought about the old fashioned eu comics?
I mean this list, like the western's one, ranges from 50's to 80's series if I'm not wrong. Then, if I got it right, in a list not limited to EU, would even be one of them in your top 10? Brubaker's crime stories, Sin City and more modern series would all top XIII for you? Or was it only Stray Bullets and Deadly Class?
Don't get me wrong, this one isn't a "best" list, but favourite and one can't really say why you didn't put X while Y is in the list. It's personal taste list, where the heart counts more than the mind.
Nonetheless, here we feel all your love for these comics while the western's one was maybe more reasoned? The 1st position shows it all.
Let me add that the crime, detective, noir and espionage genre is too wide, there are tons of titles and it would take too much time to check the ones I've read and starto to think if it can be included in the category or not (you added Dylan even though it deals with horror/fantasy, then I could also include Andreas' Capricorne though it is more sci-fi? Things like this), but maybe if I have to consider only my personal taste I would put Adele (or Torpedo) in the 1st position too! I've just re-read it last month and I also love Adele Blanc Sec but I don't consider it one of Tardi's best, even if we consider only his noir comics. Btw, here in Italy seems that I'm the only one that likes Adele, most consider it really bad ...
When it comes to Adele, though, even Tardi himself doesn't like it that much, he continued because it sold well, the latest albums weren't drawn with his typical attention and sometimes they feel rushed, the 10th album didn't even come out because he didn't finish it, while he continued his war comics. In the end he even says more than one time in Adele Blanc Sec series something like this "Obviously it's bad, people like it" referring to different stuffs, like the Pazuzu theatre, while on the other hand he had to stop The Arctic Marauder, that predates Adele, because people didn't like it and Tardi' got his revenge showing The Arctic Marauder cover in Adele a lot of times, even linked it to a story and said it was good xD
Well, I miss the Detective Hardy, it wasn't published unfortunately, but the rest of them I know and from these the best is Nestor Burma in my opinion. Obviously only the 5 tomes that Tardi did and 120 Rue de la Gare is the best of the series.
Also, why only comic series and no one shots? For example Tardi-Manchette's ones, if I have to name only one I would say Griffu (1974) which had extremely modern dialogues.
Oh, and Torpedo? I really love it and I' m sorry for the french that had to publish everything from Argentina or Spain in color, this means original b&w colored by their studios. I think that the german edition is based on the french one. Ridiculous, Bernet is amazing ... To really appreciate Abuli's writing (like in the case of Asterix) one has to read it in original, there are tons of puns not translatable, unless the translator does a wonderful job creating new ones for the country he is translating. In this case I was lucky and infact I've never laughed so much reading a comic. Some gags will never leave my mind and they work perfectly with the drawings, the faces while Torelli says them! In fact Alex Toth's Torpedo was nothing compared to Bernet's. Toth left because he couldn't stand Abuli's stories and changed them a bit when he drew them.
I don't consider it a masterpiece and a few stories weren't as good as the series standards. Though, you can't say it is classic, it is maybe vintage but his black humour is nowhere near the normal gangster story and Luca Torelli ain't a hero, neither an anti-hero, he is just a worm, in the most beautiful sense. I don't think that there was anything like Torpedo and maybe there isn't still.
Like some one else said, if you read only Dylan Dog best stories, which means only the ones written by his creator, then it's good but in general the standard isn't that high. The Bonelli long series are like the superheroes, hundreds of albums done by different artist ...
Funny thing you included The Aristocrats, but Castelli wrote a lot of better stories, he is also the creator of Martin Mystere and since you know Dylan you may also know it.
You didn't miss anything from Diabolik, it didn't age well. From outside this list I have to mention one from Magnus, the author that I already mentioned in the previous video, and it's called Lo Sconosciuto or maybe Unknow worldwide. If it is translated, check it out. This one changed the rules of Nero Italiano, like Alack Sinner did for the detective/noir comics. You consider Alack argentinian and not european, right? Even though it was published in Italy, but this doesn't change the fact that it is argentinian to the bone.
Alright, the best and not my favourite crime comic that I've ever read would be the experimental wordless comic 3 Secondes by Marc-Antoine Mathieu.
Maybe this genre, like western, sci-fi and even more historical has so many titles that it's better to stop at classics, but the real pearls may be hidden, like for any other media.
oha... let's see if I can answer at least some of your questions... respectively react to some of your comments...
why only series? Well, I've read a lot of European series in the last couple of months so I figured, let's try to put them in some kind of order. And I had to draw a line somewhere - but regardless, I'm planning a separate video with my fave standalone books from Europe as well....
why the old stuff? hmm, because of different reasons: I would like to include a fancy new series in here, but in terms of crime series, I just don't know about a recent exciting one... and series in general are very much a thing of the past when they could be pre-published in the different french and belgian comic magazines of back then. Today there are much more graphic novels... or at least this is my impression... but of course I can only judge by the stuff that is translated and published in Germany.
And being an old guy myself the old stuff has some kind of a natural appeal for me :)
Dylan Dog, Aristocrati .... well, it's just a subjective list, but thanks for the hints and info
I haven't known about Tardi's disdain for his Adele comics... but maybe this was one of the reasons for him to fool around with the story and fill it with all the sweet imbecility that I love so much. It would not be the first work of an artist that could overcome the test of time despite of its creator's disdain.
@@earlgrey862 a separate video with my fave standalone books from Europe as well....
I see, then you will cover a lot of stuffs, more than I thought.
Today there are much more graphic novels... or at least this is my impression... but of course I can only judge by the stuff that is translated and published in Germany.
I have to say that this is true for Italy, where the series only remains a Bonelli thing, maybe also in Germany and Spain, but in France there are still lot of series. The difference with France is caused by the amount of tomes published, it increased by 5 or more times in a few years. That's a bad thing because the medium quality went down and it creates a conflict of interest. Schuiten said goodbye to comics after the release of his Blake and Mortimer tome for this reason. Also, the pubblications in other countries often privileges the less interesting titles because they could sell better. So, yeah, there is also the pubblication problem, that became serious in Italy too, we almost don't have french pubblications anymore since they don't sell. Or only recently we're getting some german comics.
German comics? can't be that much, can it?
@@earlgrey862 well, I loved Alpha by Harder for example.
yeah, that's a fantastic book ... and Beta - and if I remember correctly there has been a third one planned.
Do any of these books have english versions?
unfortunately only a few... I did a short google-search for each title & if I could find an English (or Italian or....) version I had put it into the screentext in the video.
A little addition is Ric Hocet and Jerome K. Jerome Bloche are published by Europe Comics digitally. And Dylan Dog stories are being put out in English currently by Epicenter Comics.
Europe Comics has since published English versions of Hardy Agency.
I honestly have no basis on this genre, so I am going to ask you a random question...Have you seen the TV-series The Prisoner? I mean the old one.
yes
@@earlgrey862 A most eloquent answer.
:)
Ah, Bernet and Abuli, it's hard to find a better representation of noir comic book art in Europe. But when it comes to crime and espionage I do have a few questions. Firstly, don't Tintin, Freddy Lombard and January Jones technically qualify? And secondly... Where are the Bilal/Christine collaborations? Where are the The Black Order Brigade and The Hunting Party? And finally, where is Diabolik? You can't get any more into crime and espionage then Diabolik, not in european comics at least. If Japan's Golgo 13 and the US' The Phantom fused in a DBZ like fashion Diabolik would be that fusion. (ok, maybe with a bit of Arsene Lupin and Lupin the III sprinkled in that mix)
Don't get me wrong. I can't take Adele Blanc Sec or Torpedo from you. but come on. No Diabolik? Also, no love for Blacksad?
as to Tintin, January Jones and Enki Bilal: this is not my last list! ;) ... for an example I plan to do a list with comics with a certain historic background in which January Jones will fit in perfectly (yeah, also Adele, I know... but I have my reasons)
I have a stack of Diabolik, but since they're all in Italian (with one exception) I only can guess, that these are great comics. And Blacksad is one of these comics that I have held a couple of times in my comic shop but haven't bought it... aside from Donald and Usagi I'm pretty picky with anthropomorphic animals.
@@earlgrey862 Blacksad uses animals in a fable kind of way. The animals aren't used as some sort of furry bait but as metaphors for real life populations. Something similar to Zootopia, just a bit more "grown up" since it's technically a noir detective series - in full color and with animals...