From Hell Comparison
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2021
- Today I compare the From Hell hardcover that was printed in the original black and white and the From Hell Master Edition Hardcover that was colored by Eddie Campbell. So take a look back with me at one of Alan Moore's masterpieces.
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The best way to collect it: doesn't matter, just read the story because it's one of the best things in comics ever.
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Omar both collects and reads alot.
Also if you like vizbig you gotta get vagabond
@@turtleanton6539 I'm reading Berserk rn. I have bought the first 3 deluxe editions. Yeah It's good to have a collection as beautiful as that thing
You can never go wrong with Alan Moore. The man is a master of the craft
Loved the "It's about YOUR place in this world" bit!
Some of the things mentioned here are incorrect. The reason for many of the redrawing is precisely because the original drawings *weren't* following Alan Moore's vision. Eddie Campbell originally made some decisions that weren't following the script, and later came to regret it. He redrew it in the Master Edition to more closely match the original vision & Moore's script. So the reason for the difference between the two versions is almost exactly the opposite of what's said at 16:00.
And what's your source for this affirmation?
@@PiterMorbid Eddie Campbell has a youtube video where he goes over the main changes in the master edition and explains what motivated them. He also appeared in several long interviews recently on youtube where he discusses the master edition.
I will definitely be getting the B&W version, much more atmospheric.
It’s nice to see a review of this book. I read the color version a few months back and I loved it! The new colors really add something to the story.
A true classic. The colour is not bad...but for me the Black and White is just so much more suitable to the content. But I love dark, sketchy, scratchy, rough art.
Yeah I like the black and white.
Alan moore sure knows how to write masterpiece after masterpiece 👌🏻🔥
Was just looking for this kind of video! Thanks!
Will probably get the coloured version for maps. + it looks slimmer.
I’ve been curious about this one for awhile! Thanks, Omar
This book is one of the most unsettling things I’ve ever read. But it was so damn good and impossible to put down
Arguably the best thing ever done in the comics medium, as far as I’m considered. No graphic novel deserves classification as literature more than this book.
I dont' know if it's a common thing or not but I find myself going back and looking up older videos I haven't seen or rewatching ones I have. lol, sometimes several times. I have the Master Edition on the way because of this video and can't wait to read it :)
I ordered this book gonna come this week, ordered it after watching lots of flip thrus and reviews on you tube, but today just felt like hearing what you have to say about it, great work omar!! Much ❤love!
Excellent video, Omar. Thank you! I recently purchased the color version of this masterpiece and was wondering what other elements may have been modified in its creation. I love Alan Moore's work and realize that he requires deep focus, so I haven't started it just yet. I'm still enjoying the afterglow of my first Watchmen reading experience. :D
Thank you for this video. I've been debating which version to buy and this helped a lot.
I agree,Omar,one of the best horror reads/artworks ever. I read Robert Bloch's Your's Truly... back in the early '80's and have been an ardent reader/follower of (horror) stories based on Jack ever since and this take has just gotta be my fave! And I finally added this new coloured version hardcover to my collection. Thanks for another excellent review, Omar.
I really needed a side to side comparison. Thank you! I' ve never read From Hell, chances are I will go for the coloured version. And then, maybe some time I will get the original one. Thanks again!
Omar I highly recommend you Grandville by Bryan Talbot! :)
"Integral edition" was released not too long ago.
Great comparison. Just what I was looking for. Thank you!
Definitely need to pick this one up. I've never read it, but it looks fantastic. Thanks for the vid.
It is so refreshing seeing a review that doesn't deal with Marvel or DC. Very thorough review 👍
Omar, would it possible to do a top 5 vampire Mangas or comics ?
Thanks for the review. I think I like the black & white version a little more.
Thank you for this. It's good to see them side by side. Glossy paper always increases contrast. The original is mostly line-art, so glossy paper would just make the black look deeper, it wouldn't make the images clearer. The colored edition definitely benefits from the nicer paper, since the color and filled surfaces reduce contrast. Although the paper seems thinner (the book is noticeably thinner too) and definitely has some bleed-through (I noticed it in the maps pages). I am still wondering which one to pick. I like the colored better, but I think I will probably get the original for my collection. I hate bleedthrough, especially in books with graphics. It feels like budget getting precedence over art, especially for the 25ish% increase in price.
I bought the Master edition a few months ago and I tried to read it and I was lost immediately. Give me so hope to try again and that it will come together haha.
Ha! This is so strange! I was literally IN Whitechapel ON a Jack the Ripper tour at the time of you uploading this!
I own the Master Ed. but was so lucky that this week I was able to buy a copy of the Hardback B&W edition from Reed Comics in the UK. I then rewatched the movie.
Now my fav CZcamsr uploads this. It's a Jack the Ripper sort of week, for me I guess!
Halfway through reading the Master Edition. Also have the b&w version. Much prefer it coloured. The dialogue can sometimes go a bit above my head but certainly a fascinating story with great art.
Thanks for another gem of a recommendation ✨️
You are welcome
Planning on picking up the B&W version this October.
So, I bought a black and white version this summer. It also took me a month to read it. And I love it. I don't regret choosing the b&w version, I'm quite satisfied having only it.
You shouldn’t regret choosing b&w. It was a deliberate stylistic choice and it’s very apparent the colouring was a revision. The basic colouring just doesn’t work with the rough looking artwork
original is best IMO. Can't beat the gloom of the black and white. The 'scratchy' art style looks better in b&w, more like printed etchings which fits the Victorian period nicely
Excellent video , thanks for the comparison. I’m a great fan of black & white.
I agree 100%. I have both editions and at first scoffed at a revision but I took one look at the colored bloody scenes and it’s subtleness overall, I preferred it. It impressed me so much I later grabbed Alec by Eddie Campbell.
ALEC ♥
@@waltscomicshop I appreciate a sharp eye. I stand corrected.
I have a paperback edition in the original black and white, but I really might get the Master Edition and just keep both versions.
I just read master edition last week. Soooo fucking good
Stephen Knight's book Jack the Ripper the final solution was the inspiration for the story.
Great work by the great Alan more and also great video.
I have exactly that W&B version! i love it.
Having never read it before, I'm leaning towards the black and white version. Always wanted to check this out, probably will soon now! Great job and thanks as always Omar.
I have both. I prefer the colour version, found it more legible to read. And the colours are done brilliantly.
Black & white. 1000%. I know this book inside out. The colour detracts from the feel and atmosphere. It exists for one reason: to sell to people who don't look at b/w comics. There are exactly two comics I think are improved by a revisionist colouring: V For Vendetta and Akira (the Epic colouring).
@@hypersigil Oh wow really? The colored version exists so people can read it in color? Who would’ve thought.
@@Ryan-iv5fr He’s saying it’s been made to sell to people like you. People who won’t touch a book without colour.
@@mphylo2296 that's not the case, i read normal books as well as manga. You're just ignorant.
It's nice that the new, full-color edition has brought this masterpiece to the attention of a whole new group of readers. And it's great that you're celebrating this gem and hopefully encouraging more people to read it. No, it's not a breezy read. But it will never let you go. Also, in this case it's totally OK to double-dip - the versions are so different and both have their merits.
Oh absolutely
The color version is NOT the way to go.
--There are several panels that have been zoomed/cropped.
-- Flat colored backgrounds change the vibe of the empty space composition.
-- It's 10x creepier in the original black and white.
I just rewatched this video and wanted to leave the exact same comment I did before, but Alan Moore voodoo made me forget that I already did!
From hell by Allan moor is also one of the most historical accurate story’s about Jack the Ripper, unlike the book by Stephen knight and the movie that are riddled with historical inaccuracies ( although both based on the same conspiracy theory) This video has me torn as to what book to pick up
Sean and I got to talk to Eddie about this for an ALA panel. It was totally mind boggling to me how badly haunted he is by his past work. He obsesses over his own perceieved failures and how to make them better.
Interesting to think that an artist could spend a whole career just reworking one product. Not that that is what Eddie is doing, but is a wild idea, chasing perfection in one product.
I want both! Lol I think this was a wonderful video to put together.
The most important thing...the appendix...Omar, you're so funny!
Ima get this next year
Idea for a Video: Ronin from Frank Miller and how it inspired TMNT
And inspired Samurai Jack lol
@@MYTHNL90 Absolutely!
i'm enjoying the black and white more tbh, the old version of the black and white, it makes the atmosphere much more immersive
Anyone else having binding issues with the master edition. On mine, the pages are slightly peeling off the ribbon, spine, whatever on the bottom, though the top is fine.
Yo Omar can u do a overview of the puma blues graphic novel? I saw it on your collection video and it sparked my intrest. I tried to find a video but I couldn’t find one that goes in depth like u do.
I have to read it. But I can when I do.
@@NearMintCondition awesome! Sounds great
I bought the black and white thinking if I like it I would buy the color version. Got so disturbed by the graphic scenes that decided to stick to the black and white version.
I am contemplating which version to get and your feedback helps. Thank you.
I've been on the fence for years with this book. Thanks for this review. I'll pick up the Master Edition for sure.
Has someone been playing a little bit too much FFX, lately? Can't say I blame you.
Definitely went and bought it after this video
A study or musings on Time AND the human spirit , above the blood and dirt lies trascendence for those brave enough to look for it
I still remember I was reading about this book on wikipedia when I came across a picture of Youknowwho who is the ripper in the book, and yeah ruined the whole suspense thing.... But I didn't even care, with alan Moore it's not the ending or the twists but how you get there that you enjoy
Verygooooooood this comics Alam Moore.
How different are the dimensions of these books than regular HCs?
These are the same size as the compendiums like Fables Irredeemable Rachel Rising Walking Dead etc. but in hardcover.
Abit of topic but how do you feel about Hickman leaving x-men
I bought the original (disregarding the first few chapters being published in Taboo) eleven issue run from Mad Love Publishing as they were released in the 90's, so I'm biased towards the original. Since it was made for black-and-white, colouring takes away rather than add to it. It's almostlike when Turner Moves colourized some classic movies to make them "appeal to a modern audience": the end product was pretty disappointing.
As for Campbells involvement in the colourization process and re-drawing some pages; Neal Adams has redrawn some of his artwork too, and I've yet to hear anyone say that was a good thing. Also, Moores scripts are usually extremely detailed when it comes to the art, so changing it wihout Moores involvement or approval doesn't seem right either. This is one of Moores most intricate, atmospheric and bleak works, and IMO should be read as was originally intended.
Unfortunately I've also seen the movie, and not surprising I thought it was terrible.
Ok, rant over!
Well, looks like this is going to be added to the collection lol
I have both band even though I prefer the original one I can see why people will be inclined towards the master edition
What size are these? Are they both oversized?
Hell yeah!
I've got both editions. Master Ed.got terrible binding. It's crap out during the first reading...It's very disappointing...But the story is one of the best.
Original black and white is the only moly way to go
I tried reading this a few years ago and I stopped for two reasons. One is I hate the art style there is something about it that is just grating to me (same reason I never finished the dark knight returns). Number two is shortly before I started reading I did serious dive into the ripper murders and found something out that really ruined the book for me. I won't say exactly what it is but I will say when this was written Moore based it one of many prominent (at the time) theories about who the ripper was. In the years sense this has come out the sadly the theory he chose has been disproven.
I honestly feel black and white is the superior experience. Adding color, ironically, actually takes something away...
The industrial Revolution happened over a hundred and fifty years before the events of this book.
It ended in 1870. This story was a decade or two after that. So let’s not go balls out on dates. :)
@@NearMintCondition I see, my bad.
No worries.
Paper quality is better in this edition than the Top Shelf paperback? Is the art better reproduced? Thinking of upgrading.
A bit late, but the paper looks thinner in the colored edition. The book is also noticeably thinner. I do not have the books, but there is noticeable bleedthrough if you take a look into the maps pages. I don't know how this affects the entire book, but it's something that really bothers me
I'll be getting the B&W edition. Far mor atmospheric to me
Now Face Me Nameless Demon
So! Sold me another book, huh? I've hesitated over this one for a long time, but you just convinced me to pull the trigger.
P&B >>>>>>>>>>
1st 🥇
What human nature man, this is surely about the birth of the twentieth century because this whole event is connected to the british empire, and for anyone who have seen only the movie, there is no connection at all, the novel is much more deep and better
I only have Master edition, but looking on original BW art- it' so much better then coloured. The colours in the master ed are laid out so so so sloppy. Campbell definitely don't know much about digital painting.
Do ppl still watch tv in black and white? Thought so
Doesn’t seem to be hurting manga sales…
It was published in black and white
Perfect medium for this story
@@DMM9619 only because there no color for manga. If they did provide both options in Japan. Best believe the color everytime
@@paulelliott3220 yea and the people have spoken and now it reprinted in color
Don’t compare art with a retard’s medium please. Manga, indy comics, artist’s editions, newspaper strip reprints, DC’s Noir line of comics, classic movies, modern movies like Sin City, Schindler’s List, The Lighthouse, Roma, and many more. All widely enjoyed, and use black and white to wonderful effect. Black and white art, though less popular than colored, has its place and is here to stay.
And moreover, most people would say the colored version of From Hell is a step down from the earlier versions.
sooooooooooooo wordy.
Nice review but Allen Moore is horribly overrated. Chuck Dixen any day.
I’m trying to think besides Batman and some GL. What other same characters they both have written
@@NearMintConditionswamp thing
They're such different writers, but Dixon hasn't written any stories that are nearly as interesting or as relevant to comics as Moore, and I say this as someone who was introduced to comics by Knightfall through No Man's Land.
Still don't see a proper reason for this blasphemy (colorization). *smh*