Sony's Helldivers 2 Drama Is Disappointing...
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- čas přidán 3. 05. 2024
- Helldivers 2 has seen a divided community after Sony announced a new requirement for PC/Steam players to register a Sony account to play.
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But will any company learn from this? Unfortunately, I don't think so...
Nope they won't they will sweat bullets when their community managers and product is lack luster... But they have to keep doing the same moves for the board. I think that these investors getting a say in what the company does, is getting out of hand... since a lot of the investors are just ready to pump and dump. just like a lot of Managers and CEO and people like that.
Xbox did this with Minecraft no one cares
PlayStation does you are all acting like idiots.
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“Not all countries can make a psn account”
Well I guess your dumb cause not all countries can make a Xbox account either
No, we have reached the era of not owning the things you buy, they make your smartphones obsolete after a year, shut down your favorite game's servers and straight up just lie to the consumers.
@@Thfoxpz Think the only brick of a game I have gotten is Destiny. Not even sure if those servers are still up or If I have to do some jailbreaking stuff.
It’s almost like we can’t have a perfect game without the big publishers or the companies being like “oh this game is thriving and people are having fun? Not on my watch!”
Nintendo would probably be able to do this.
Their only flaw is with copyright stuff. If they were a little more lenient, they’d probably win even more.
Xbox did this with Minecraft no one cares
PlayStation does you are all acting like idiots.
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“Not all countries can make a psn account”
Well I guess your dumb cause not all countries can make a Xbox account either
@@Cubeytheawesomenintendo is a culprit of doing this. making switch online
Nah bro fr
Some one was able to get a refund with almost 100 hours, stating that they do not agree with Sony's decision. So I think if players state they are unable to access the game because of their country, Steam might actually start giving refunds.
If this is the case then I'm fine (as much as I can be) with this. My only thing is if someone put money into this game they should get that money back if PSN is forcing this in this way.
Nope my refund was declined
Do note that it has to be A PERSON reviewing the request, a bot will just DENY it. I got 3 denies by the bots
@@phongphamnghia3085 well yeah
I had to resubmit 6 times, but with a well stated and respectful reason (that I totally wrote myself and didn't just copy-paste from the discord) got refunded with over 380hrs.
Studios: Make games for actual gamers
Sony: Illegal!
Arrowhead made it for Sony, not gamers. Arrowhead is not the hero, just a part of the problem.
They are litterally telling you to boycot the game because of this, are you daft?@@natmarelnam4871
@@natmarelnam4871 Not the case. Arrowhead's made it pretty clear that they are being pinned agains't the wall rn.
@@natmarelnam4871Arrow head has to deal with sonys rules. To be able to sell their games on sonys console. So obviously its sony. To say its not them is very unintelligent
Xbox did this with Minecraft no one cares
PlayStation does you are all acting like idiots.
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“Not all countries can make a psn account”
Well I guess your dumb cause not all countries can make a Xbox account either
Steam just delisted 177 locations from the storefront so yea SONY basically just knowingly forced Arrowhead to rug pull 2/3rds of the globe yea let that sink in .
Also, people should understand that notorious Jeff only post on a single channel.
Let that sink in
WOOAHH! jeff isnt crying on a timpool video ?! crazy...
"There's a tap at the door"
@@xelthiavice4276 That isn't crazy, Tim Pool just makes people sad
@@SlickAstley_TVNo. Jeff is totally mentally insane.
Here's the thing. If they do it literally every company will start doing this.
Every other company already do this
Do you live under a rock lol…
@@denzel_thegreat1681 *Correction. Every other company already does this, but makes it mandatory and unavoidable at lauch, not 3 months down the line when the refund windows are closed, and after people in regions which can't access their network has already bought the game.
Most other companies also don't have the terrible security and data breach track record that sony has.
Also the account linking stuff has already gotten too far. Feels like I need 55+ accounts linked just to play a game these days.
Ubisoft, Activision, Rockstar, and for a short time EA, and Bethesda. They all did this. And these arent the only ones.
Sony doesn't have normal game releases on PC at all. There are legitimately only a small handful of games. Xbox has an app with a store to buy games. Epic, EA, GOG, and Ubisoft don't have their own consoles to sell games. So it makes sense that they do it.
If Sony creates their own online app store and puts it on PC, it would make sense.
We shouldn't have to subscribe to PSN without there being a reason to do so. Buying a game through Steam isn't one of those reasons.
First Stellar Blade gets Censored now this, Sony is doing a good job to tick people off
Sony didn't censor Stellar blade though? The directors of the games have said multiple times it was there decision to do so and it had nothing to do with Sony. Sony still sucks though there is a lot you can call them out for, the censoring is not one of them
@@nelluc8831get a job
Wow song has become nothing but a complete joke in the ps5 as they dominated ps1 along with ps2 and ps4 era and now they become all woke.
@@nelluc8831 Except it is. The censorship was not based off just the suits. Blood and Gore was completely toned down and the removal of the infamous "hard r" is clearly a sony thing and not from Shift Up.
And devs may be under NDA and could have taken some money that they relied on sony from. The Devs have clearly stated that they will release the game uncensored in all regions, and a lot of those suits were actually based off some things that are commonly wore in the east.
We also have examples such as Tsukihime which is somehow releasing uncensored on the Switch so it's clearly Sony at fault here.
@@nelluc8831 cmon,we all know that’s a ton of bull. In any case,it looks like they might be reverting back to it being uncensored so it doesn’t really matter at this point.
"You will own nothing, and you wont be happy".
Wrong. You WILL be happy, consumer. Do not question the decision, and continue your consumption like a good boy
Xbox did this with Minecraft no one cares
PlayStation does you are all acting like idiots.
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“Not all countries can make a psn account”
Well I guess your dumb cause not all countries can make a Xbox account either
Buy disks
YOU WILL OWN EVERYTHING AND BE HAPPY
I was going to buy helldivers 2 today until I saw the reviews. I instead decided to get ready or not, because Sony pulling this stunt doesn't deserve my support. When they revert this option, I'll dive into robot Vietnam and support my fellow divers..
I am truly sorry that you cannot join our ranks. But just know that when thing do get better, there’s a super destroyer waiting for you, and helldivers waiting for you to join our ranks. For Super Earth. 🫡 🌎
@@djtrac3r935 I would like to join if I could. But no, they decided to remove the opportunity to buy the game in 177 countries. Guess what? I live in one of these 177 countries.
Ready or Not is great, Six Days in Fallujah, GZW also.
@@valpulsinelli3449 Ready or not is better, your loss.
@valpulsinelli3449 good for you man, 2/3rds of the player base just got ripped off and region locked out of the game.
So you go have fun lvl 30. This lvl 75 won't dive without the community that made this game into what you'reenjoying. If they roll it back, great, I not I'm out.
This is how democracy dies. Sony sure knows how to ruin a game.
Ironically this is true because the majority is saying stop and the company is just doubling down
Xbox did this with Minecraft no one cares
PlayStation does you are all acting like idiots.
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“Not all countries can make a psn account”
Well I guess your dumb cause not all countries can make a Xbox account either
Sony is also the Anti-Eastern gaming too.
Stellar Blade was censored, some Japanese novel game was censored too from the art book, and I fear SMTVV will also be censored too when it launch in June.
yeah the Tsukihime remake
How is it anti Eastern when it's a Eastern company?
@@connor10harrisonSony, aka kuSony, moved to CA
@@connor10harrisonSony is _not_ an eastern company.
Not anymore, anyway.
@@connor10harrison it has not been an eastern company in 7 years dude it went to california since 2016
Edit: i was wrong 8 years my god it feels not so long ago
Sony strong arming Stellar Blade to censor their game from sexiness and blood. Now they are strong arming HD2 to link up the player's steam and playstation account to play their game while they had multiple data breach in the past.
Speaking of the stellar blade incident, Nintendo, known for family friendly video games, had Bayonetta 1 and Bayonetta 2, which had violence, Gore and slight nudity and both of those games weren't censored at all. Boy the irony.
@@alphonsejohnson5601 because Nintendo has more notorious acts such as hunting down pirated related things compared to censorships
Xbox did this with Minecraft no one cares
PlayStation does you are all acting like idiots.
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“Not all countries can make a psn account”
Well I guess your dumb cause not all countries can make a Xbox account either
Bruh Sony is the thing players need to be protected from. They have serious data breaches all the time.
In the UK you have to provide Government ID or a face scan to create a PSN account.
Xbox did this with Minecraft no one cares
PlayStation does you are all acting like idiots.
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“Not all countries can make a psn account”
Well I guess your dumb cause not all countries can make a Xbox account either
Tell me about. It's like when Anakin joined the sith instead of destroying it. HD2 was supposed to be the chosen one. And what's worse It's not even the devs fault. Sony's doing this because of the back lash of Steller Blade and to artificially inflate the numbers.
Divided? I disagree, I think the community is more united than usual on this.
Theres this one fool on Twitter that just, spams hate on xbox and pc, and its sad
Nah, i saw some people talking that pc players are butthurt snowflakes for this. I dont get the mentality of these people
@@kekk3809 they are playstation fan boys.
Speak for yourself I never want to be associated with all of you cry babies that can't be bothered to take accountability for you actions
Not sure how "united" you consider about 25% of players.
Also Sony get's hacked like every other day. Why would we(pc community) would trust linking out Steam accounts with Sony.
Also they charge for PlayStation Network functionality on their consoles, so how long will it be until they start charging us PC players to play their games online?
Even more concerning to me is that their anti-cheat gives kernel level permissions to SNOY, so hackers can take over my pc simply by going in through the developer's less than stellar security.
@@HalcyonDaze33exactly
Agreed!!!
Sony's passwords must be worse than Valve's Anti Cheat
Literally a lol, thank you
Rockstar and Activision do the same BS. Buy a game on steam, but have to sign in to their launcher to play.
And so, I don't play anymore.
People aren't upset about the concept. Its a common concept. People are upset when companies change the conditions of the purchase after you purchase it.
Yeah but you are told up front that a third party launcher is required with them, with HD2 this was sprung way after it launched.
@@UtahTaffer incorrect; I played GTA5 for years without that.
Farcry 3 and primal without that.
Does your memory only work for the last couple years? LOL
Yeah I’m going to be avoiding all of those launchers and sign in services from now on. Tired of games acting predatory needing all of our data
@@PhatesDemiseBut they didnt, it was always a requirement.
Sony is about to nuke a major part of HellDiver's player base, one of the worst things you could possibly do to a live service game.
Maybe they'll have to send it to xbox now.
You can't link a PSN account to Xbox. If they are making account linking a requirement for Steam, why would Xbox be exempt?
@@jinkade my point was the player base was going to drop to the point they'd have to launch it on xbox to keep the game going strong. Mainly a joke dude.
Oh i’d *LOVE* to see The faces of Sony’s higher ups if releasing it on Xbox ever happens.
Sony, What have you done? They can't revert back to a PlayStation exclusive now, because the majority of PC gamers made the game successful. All you had to do before the game even launched, was not tell the devs to also port this to PC. I'm not saying PlayStation players weren’t contributing as well to the success of Helldivers 2. It was just that the game wouldn’t be this successful without PC as well. Why would they try to assimilate PC players to PSN accounts when it's was optional before? Why did you do that?
"What's that? We're making buckets of money and people are having fun? NAW WE CAN'T BE HAVING THAT! Tear it all down"
And what's worse, you have game tourist attacking and gaslighting gamers for being upset with the BS Sony has been pulling. My theory is that Sony is only forcing people who don't own a PS5 to create a PSN account through Helldivers 2 is because they know they're gonna lose money and are looking for whatever disgusting tactic to use to claim it back 😭
It’s pretty much par for the course with Sony. They’re not the first to do this nor will they be the last but this was their one opportunity to stray from the norm and they botched it. They pretty much proved to all of us that they’re nothing more than your standard, run of the mill, greedy corporation that only serve to please the shareholders.
It's all to show "growth" to the shareholders
it costs 0 to make an account tho
@@Calebe428 some places are literally unable to do so. Cost is not the issue.
@@iwillnotcomply1707 I think those countries are now not able to buy the game and should be able to get refunds. The CEO also said they were trying to find a work around
People also skip the part where just before this issue, sony announced theyre going to monitor voice chats and messages to apply some "safety" bs. That means they wanted to extend their reach along with padding their psn numbers.
Sony claims it's for security and safety reasons yet lacks the self awareness to realise PSN gets taken down by 12 year old hackers on a monthly basis.
Sources?
@@rarepug2086 Here's your source🖕
@@rarepug2086throughout 2011 it was confirmed at least three times that Sony had data breaches. Their super unreliable and scummy. Last one was in October of 2023 confirmed. Now imagine the hacks they swept under the rug
@@rarepug2086 He's being metaphorical, not literal. Not to mention that those major hacks were motivated by unhappy playstation customers, which actually makes this kind of psn requirement a dangerous choice. When hackers see that Sony is trying to convert millions of players into having a playstation network account, that makes it into a high priority target by said hackers. And if Sony does get hacked, they will ultimately lose shareholder money in that scenario, completely negating gains made by the added numbers.
btw, sony will ban you if you use a vpn just to try and play the game. so it's like a contradiction/double edged sword and both edges are pointed at sony's neck.
Thats a lie
@@denzel_thegreat1681 where is it a lie? do you have avid proof that someone was able to do so without the "TOS" banning them?
@@denzel_thegreat1681 like a picture copy? because anyone can just comment: "oh, i'm from said country that doesn't support sony games hurr durr skill issue."
@@denzel_thegreat1681 even if it's a lie, it's still a possibility, which I'm not going to risk
@@denzel_thegreat1681 It is in their terms of service under content license restriction article 10.6. It details that circumventing their stipulations is against code of conduct by the consumer as using a vpn can and is an act of bypassing their authorization and authentication requirements by obfuscating your actual location
If I am willing to turn off crossplay, I shouldn't have to sign up to Sony's God awful system.
Won't you still need to sign in with a psn still?
@GhastMan03 are you on drugs?
@@GhastMan03that’s the point, why would they force us to make a PSN account but also give us the option to turn off cross-play? It makes no mathematical sense.
@@gav9808litearlly this is the best solution.. just make it for cross play. But they’re choosing death..
@@gav9808 Xbox did this with Minecraft no one cares
PlayStation does you are all acting like idiots.
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“Not all countries can make a psn account”
Well I guess your dumb cause not all countries can make a Xbox account either
EVERY new game I’ve bought in the last 5 years has died a few months after launch due to corporate types and shitfuckery and I’m so done with it.
No new money coming from me anymore.
Thats why i never play/buy/preorder Games that are the current Hype . I wait and watch & after few months with most needed Patches and a Discount then i may buy the Game.
@@theratking013 Same, patience is a virtue. Always best to wait it out and see what happens.
I feel like requiring online connection for SINGLEPLAYER games is outright too far and ridiculous on its own, let alone shutting out a combined hundreds of millions suddenly out of nowhere and claim it's for the better
Helldivers isn’t single player
Helldivers 2 is an online only game
Some people say things get worse before they get better, but I personally believe this is just gonna get worse *_FOREVER._* In other words; things are gonna get worse before they get worse. If you bet on that, I think it's pretty safe money.
A concrete reason to be a doomer
@@razorback9999ableHey, man, you wanna talk? It's a open conversation. 👋
@@razorback9999ablehey man, wanna talk about the doom? It’s an open conversation 👋
That's a defeatist attitude. The whole reason things got to this point was BECAUSE we didn't fight back.
@@NoName......Yea I don’t agree with this dude’s defeatist attitude either. We gotta fight back like it’s Humanity’s last stand on Earth against the Covenant in 2552
Yeah Reddit has been on fire with this recently and I don't blame them, both sides are arguing about it. The idea of it being just to please shareholders isn't one I've seen or thought of, but its a very likely reason.
Sounds like a class action somewhere in all of this..
Imagine buying a boat and the store page in fine print off at the bottom says "May contain a bomb but... we don't know" you get on the boat check it head and toe for the bomb but don't find it only to sale on it for months for the radio on it to chime in and say. Yeah there's a bomb and its now ticking down. then you wonder why everyone is jumping overboard to swim to shore.
Thing is, if Sony had better security, I don't see anything wrong with it. However, with the history of Sony, I'm not playing Helldivers 2.. Was a fun game whilst it lasted
Maximizing shareholder value is probably, unironically the root of all modern evil.
And Ghost of Tsushima will require a PSN account for multiplayer on PC. Only a matter of time until it requires it for singleplayer too.
Ghost of Tsushima is on PC?
@@eneco3965 It’s getting a PC port, yes.
@@eneco3965 What rock have you been living under?. The PC port was confirmed MONTHS ago...
@@Talon97 I've no reason to keep up with GoT news
Us gamers can't have nice things. Ever.
Also sony region locked helldivers 2 now we can't get our refunds
I am just gonna say this, it sucks that Sony is putting their foot down the way they did but the CEO of Arrowhead shot themselves in the foot as well since when you make a game you MUST be careful who you decide to have publish your game if you have given the publisher the rights to your game it sucks... But really that is your fault, its like giving your car knowing that they have a horrible record of driving cars... Both are to blame for different things, I hope Arrowhead in future try to be more independent
This. Arrowhead is t fault when they signed the contract
@@npcimknot958the gaming industry back then looked at big publishers more favorably (other than EA) its just until recently people realized big corpos bad (wonder why) and their decision only cared about money rather than consumers
Gaming industry back then and now is very different can’t blame them THAT much
@yeeyw yeah you can it's very similar to a musician signing with record labels they work very very similarly to one another, contracts change over time and if the CEO still agreed from Arrowhead... Sorry but it is their fault.
Devs need to shop around BEFORE signing with a publisher, just because it's Sony you shouldn't have stars in your eyes and sign automatically
@@zenoxp8928 Okay I agree but I wouldn't say its 100% their fault they just chose a bad publisher... They should have gone with a different one.
@@mtf-alpha-1 you've just technically said it's their fault, point of the matter they are both to blame and again I can't stress this enough they should've READ the contract.
So it's 100% both Publisher and Developer
It’s easy to tell it’s for money. Just like how they tried to not have crossplay on PlayStation and thought if you wanted to play with PlayStation players then get a PlayStation and it was controversial and forced to implement crossplay
This I feel is absolutely a higher up decision. This feels very out of character for the devs.
It wasn't their decision, they didn't want this either, they basically tried to protect us from it for as long as possible
The devs are woke, so...
@@detective2221 What does this have to do with wokeness? If anything, doesnt the woke people tend to be "socialist" or "communist" or something and "anti captialist" and "anti corporations"?
No, the devs are in on it. Sony owns them. They pretend like they're independent, but that's clearly not the case. If it were, this simply never would have happened in the first place.
@@detective2221 I wouldn't say the devs themselves are woke but the Community Managers are
MAJOR ORDER UNLOCKED:
TAKE BACK THE SONY FRONTLINE
My theory is that with people cancelling their subscription to PSN because of the Stella Blade stuff, Sony might think this will bolster their numbers back up.
Helldivers 2 is bigger than stellar..this one I think is going to be massive in consequences
Sony is trying so hard to be a bootlicker for their ESG score 🙄
This has to be corporate sabotage, If the dev's can they should sue sony or atleast the shareholders should.
The devs are almost certainly under contract not to use sony.
EU has consumer protection. Forcing customers to make an account that will collect data after the fact is a pretty easy way for every EU person to request a refund and if steam denies it they get to deal with consumer protection. Which they wont, they’ll just charge sony for the refunds. Even worse if sou are in a country that cant actually make an account.
I'm not okay with double standards the only people who should have to have a psn is those playing on their console.
tin foil hat theory: Sony is trying to sabatoge the game because they think expectations will be too high for the games industry.
Maybe people would use launchers other than Steam more if those launchers were actually good.
I thought that's how the free market is supposed to work right? Best product at the lowest price wins. Of course the people who don't know how to make a good product disagree about that.
Imma be honest. I would use any other launcher if I could just use one launcher.
Dang it’s a shame cause I was planning to get Helldivers 2 when my exams were over.
I bought the game and like $20 of super credits the day before this happened lol It is what it is. I'm not going through the trouble of refunding cuz I just don't have anything better to play but still.
"We do this for your security. Now upload us your gov document or a pic of your face so it can be leaked by hackers". Sounds legit XD
Sony is a publicly traded company on the NYSE at index: SONY.
Also, Sony has been so sketchy...1st the Stellar Blade bait and switch, now the Helldivers 2 bait and switch...
Also, Helldivers 2 account setup had a SKIP BUTTON; this is extremely misleading!!!
I thought PC players were the majority of the global players.
Boycott all Sony products and productions.
Spooderman was an over rated superhero anyways.
The biggest problem is that it's a bait and switch. If a sony account was required from the very start, no one would care because those that don't want to create one wouldn't have bought the game in the first place. It's the fact that after paid money for the game, after you learned to enjoy it, did sony pulled a Darth Vader and altered the deal. Also, brain dead response from their community mangers made things worse.
It sucks that the developers will get a good chunk of the consequences for Sony's actions. They made a good game and deserve the money they got for it, unfortunately Sony just couldn't sit and let it make money they just had to mess it up somehow.
They had to Sony it up like usual
Liberate Super Earth from Sony
That free piece of gear would make those who wear/use it labled and kicked from missions.
Collaborators or traitors to Managed Democracy.
i did NOT expect to see optimus t-bagging a ghoul 😂
I want Sonny to make a statement because right now it looks like they just threw arrow head under the bus as soon as they made their announcements and dipped. No follow up or nothing, just letting arrow head take the brunt after basocally stepping in, napalming the PC community ans just staying radio silent to maybe squeeze a bit more PSN accounts for those EVER oncreasing shareholder stocks. Its disgusting, Helldivers 2 is my game of the year, bugs and all, and to see this come from the big guys up top is disheartening for the devs who've worked so hard to build up the community we have so far. One thing that will also be affected is our ability to tackle MAJOR ORDERS as effectively as we have so far, but thats way less important
The worst part is it took Arrow Head years to get this game ready just to have it in this state.
list list is close to 190, but this post gave a "few" names
"List of countries where people cant make PSN accounts:
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bosnia Herzegovina, Botswana, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Democratic Republic of the Congo (Congo-Kinshasa), Republic of the Congo (Congo-Brazzaville),Djibouti Dominica, Dominican Republic East Timor (Timor-Leste), Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Estonia, Eswatini(Swaziland), Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Latvia, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mauritius, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar (Burma), Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Nigeria, North Macedonia (formerly Macedonia), Palau, Papua New Guinea, Rwanda, Saint Kitts, Nevis Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent, Grenadines Samoa, San Marino, Sao, Tome, Principe Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, and Suriname"
initial post on steam by Gendryll
Sony has caused so many problems in gaming, it's not funny. From denying some games cross progression to now this that will cut a significant amount of the helldivers playerbase. They are just a difficult company to deal with
Not really they ain't perfect but causing problems to gaming not really. The complainers that always nitpick cause more issues then most of the developers
@@bullylowenthal2683oh sony not wanting cross-platform play whatsoever is a nitpick?
@@LoweredLine it's not really a big deal it does sound like a nitpick
@bullylowenthal2683 I don't even know why I bothered responding I already knew you had sony stuffed down your throat
@LoweredLine Nah just not a complainer like you plus you still responded that's your own fault
Sony is literally killing their own platform.
I wonder how it would've gone if they didn't make it mandatory and gave people some free unique gear for the trouble of linking. I bet the results would be stunning
The Devs are practically watching there game burn within 72 hours just because sony practically forced them to do it as of now and are still getting hate when it wasn't there decision, Yes they did sign the contract with sony. But if they never did,HD2 would have never existed to begin with and we would still be playing modern games by terrible AAA companies
100% this. People speak on things they don't understand when they say that they should have never signed with any publisher. That's just not possible. It's not how the industry works. For a reason. Their only other options are just as bad if not worse. This is why in my opinion, most of the anger and hatred should be directed towards sony.
Oh boy here we go again
*grabs popcorn*
It’s not just PSN accounts not being available in other countries, it’s also Sony’s subpar security.
Sony’s been hacked multiple times and this would also put your Steam account at risk as well.
Almost like Microsoft has been hacked a lot in the past as well. Can you explain what makes Sony a special case when it comes to digital security?
Sony could’ve just left us alone. But nah, they insisted on satisfying their investors and fattening their already full pockets. They should not have ticked off the Helldivers
Looks like it's back to the abyss bar lads! Rock & Stone!
For Karl!
Just in time for season 5.
When someone calls me a pessimist things just get worse
10:48 yes people who defend it are selfish and aren’t thinking about all those that been scammed. We call them rich snobs
According to Britannica, there are 196 (197 counting Hong Kong) countries globally.
PSN appears to be available in about 70 of them.
They ripped from almost 2/3rds of the countries on the planet the ability to play a game that they were able to play before the PSN enforcement.
What makes it more sad is that arrowhead is being targeted like crazy by the community even though it wasn’t their decision Sony basically blindsided them and enforce this to happen
I hope this motivates other gaming studios to not work with Sony and just work with some other publisher.
I hope in the future, developers see how detrimental having a big greedy publisher can be to their game. It is literally selling the soul of your game to the greatest sources of evil in our world.
The best that we can hope for is developers trying to fight for negotiating power in their contracts. Similar to what Bungie did with destiny. They signed a deal with Activision but made it very clear during the meetings that they would give Activision no creative control over the company and the company would reserve the right to pull out of the contract at any time for any reason and Activision agreed. If studios are able to enter into more agreements like this situations like this would be more easily rectified and potentially publishing companies would be more worried about making mistakes like this because they'd lose large studios like crazy. Hopefully leading towards publishing companies being forced to act more pro-consumer.
@@papasivir4241 I don’t get how these developer studios get into these issues in the first place. It’s pretty common for publishers to mess up game franchises just would expect every studio to have safety measures in place for when the publisher inevitably decides to ruin everything
Let's not forget about the Stellar Blade controversy as well.
Everyone forgets the Sony BMG CD copy protection rootkit scandal was a scandal focused on the implementation of copy protection measures on your PC to track those copying music they bought leaving security holes that needed to patch.
At this point, I'm done playing games. The activists have been in charge for too long and it's getting worse.
Like many, I'm doing other things like electronics and 3D printing.
I've been gaming since 1975 and XBOX, Playstation, PC GPU makers, Ninetendo, gaming media, award shows...
They whole industry is just a money grab and I'm not paying one more cent.
FTC is sleeping allowing the abuse because we're just gamers.
As many times as the Sony servers have been hacked and they didn't tell people until long after the damages were done makes me astonished people even buy their consoles in the first place.
As for the devs, they sold out to Sony and are just as complacent.
Currently as of 9:19pm EST May 4th, I created a new steam account to verify a rumor I heard on reddit. I set my Country to Egypt and turned on my VPN for an Egypt server. I went to the Helldivers page and COULD NOT find a way to purchase the game. Please somebody tell me I am in a fever dream and that this is all just a figment of my imagination. I WANT to be wrong.
Nah, they took it off the steam platform because of all the negative reviews.
Sony had a golden goose, all they had to do was be a little patient and let it lay its eggs.
Instead Sony is strangling that goose and screaming at it to lay faster cuz they’re greedy
Look at how HD2 community was able to come together in just 1 week.
Meanwhile the CS2 (c)ucks still can't organise over a half a year now to pressure Valve.
Anyone who makes a psn account is basically giving hackers a backdoor to your steam account
just saw your comment on the Kendrick diss😂
whatd he say
UPD:
Microsoft had just shut down a bunch of studios. Including a studio who made a game that won a award last December.
I think Opti might make a vid on that one.
Every time I think "I'll love to maybe buy a PlayStation 5." Then I have to remind myself they always get hacked, false promises and etc etc. I'll just stick to PC and plan on getting a Gaming PC.
Legit i believed for a second that the Fallout npc was announcing this video.
You can't grant immunity to those in the countries where they can't create a PSN account, and then claim the whole reason for the account is "Security" and "Able to ban the bad players." It's either everyone has the PSN ID, or get rid of the ID altogether. To quote from The Day The Earth Stood Still, "There must be security for all, or no one is secure."
This was a predatory business practice used by Sony
Sad thing is, just like the Warzone situation, this might not be resolve. Knowing AAA corporations and their loyalists, as long as we don't know what move we must do, the chances of winning is negative.
if it was just for the crossplay feature then the backlash wouldn't be that severe,
everyone could still play and those with PS friends would just make an account and the few that live in areas that can't create one to play with PS friends would be upset but they can still at least play the game.
Sony has lost their Minds.
So much Anti-Consumer decisions.
They lost their minds...and the battle cause they reversed the decision
Something most people don’t talk about is that this was mandatory from the start, it was just temporarily made optional due to server issues.
Though I do have to say, Arrowhead are at fault for not adequately communicating with the newer players who didn’t know (they only had one pop-up & it wasn’t very clear on Steam), and Sony & Steam are at fault for selling in regions they weren’t supposed to.
Man I really do feel physical copies or pirating is about to really become a main topic as a savior, which is probably overselling it but looking a few years ahead and seeing if gaming companies keep doing the same thing like this....
Don't forget all the incredibly shady stuff Sony has been doing with their TOS recently. There's plenty of valid reasons not to make a PSN account even if you do live in a country where you're allowed to.
3:50 Don't get it upside down. It is Sony that doesn't support these countries. I'm not aware of a single country where local laws prevent Sony from doing this (except North Korea).
15:23 And that takes care of the security issues because...? Not to mention that section 6.1. of the PSN ToS literally states that they can do absolutely anything they want with your data, including "publishing " (also known as selling) them.
if they just required my email and phone i wouldn't care but a PSN account requires my address, my zip code , a face scan and my id for a company that is know for having leaks. also over 100 countries player bases will be forced out of their game if they were originally gonna need a PSN account why did they sell it in those country.
A legend for T-bagging the ghoul
Even better would have been to keep it optional but if you link accounts you get crossplay access and some cosmetic gear along with maybe some super credits
I think one of the reasons theyre doing this is because more people canceled their accounts due to the Stellar Blade thing than they thought would.
The drivers Id i belive is UK only according to asmongold stream don't have other sources for that.
This just in helldivers 2 is no longer able to purchase in Puerto Rico
Is that a joke
@@kengiro0599 afraid not. 😢
@@ryanalvarado5576 how? Puerto Rico is a US territory
@@kengiro0599 that's what I said. In steam it doesn show the add to cart. Also the region its set to puerto rico and can't change it unless using a vpn.
@@ryanalvarado5576 that's weird
Come to DRG folks, Rock and Stone!
Optimus, UPDATE >> they removed the game from the countries that can't make an psn account
lol community managers are going to start to dox psn user's info when they get mad.
It wasn't necessary before, it's not necessary now. They should at least keep it optional because it was optional originally.