R56 Mini Cooper S - Replace your Diverter valve before its too late! (how to)
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2017
- In this video I replace my original Diverter Valve (blow off valve) on my mini cooper s. A very simple maintence item that could be causing your mini to loose power. Be sure to change yours out if there is any sign of damage to avoid costly repairs later. Thanks for watching!
OEM Diverter Valve
rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53...
Forge Intake Hose
rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Still running my R55 with N14 (11.2007 model), after a "big" investment in a timing chain kit replacement ($2500, parts & labor).
Some tricks that have kept it running well ever since:
1) ALWAYS check the oil at least after every other fuel tank refill (i.e.
In my country AIC timing chain replacement will cost me around 180 euros (200$) wtf 2500??
@@BeZzeMa Welcome to Switzerland.
Great stuff. Just got a ‘07 S and I’m learning all the fun things to make the car more reliable. Thanks!
Thanks for this video! My mechanic showed me where the part was located which was a bit leaky and needs replacing, so the video helped to confirm I was ordering the correct part online!
Does it leak oil?
I bought a second-hand Mini cooper s R56 and it never felt very fast. After a remap an error message came up; we nailed it down to the diverter valve and replaced it. What a difference!! It was like the whole car came alive. And there was no way of telling it was faulty unless you know what a quick mini should be like. Good advice.
Sorry to hear you paid 90 $ for a refurbished unit....! Original Mini part is only about 55 bucks dude....
Ya i found that out after the fact actually LOL. but I did wind up getting a lifetime warranty so i guess some good came out of it :(
Good videos man. I learned some nice mods. Thanks!!
Great video, keep up your great work.
This sounds promising. Before the timing chain was re placed you use to hear the dv go pretty much every dab of the accelerator. Now it only does it whilst Revving. Wonder if this is the cause as the power fees good, I had thought it was a boost leak
If you don't need it right away a brand new diverter valve is available from (reputable) mail order houses for around $55. Like autohausaz and rmeuropean.
Awesome show !!
forge makes a fully aluminum DV for the r56....honestly it needs to be the first thing that you upgrade. I hate the weak wimpy oem diverters especially if you are intending to increase boost with tunes and etc.
I just looked the turbo cold air intake yesterday and found some oil. Is this normal? Does this something to do with the diverter valve failure? I have 2008 R56 S turbo with 40K miles.
After installing the BOV with a catch can should you still hear the blow off sound?
I question isn’t the bov adapter supposed to fit flush against the housing
Do you have a video for DMTL replacement? Thanks in advance
I dont think my 2009 MCS has a diverter valve, it has a waste gate on the hot side of the turbo. Or it has both? I will check tomorrow, I am intrigued.
Can someone tell me where the oil sending unit (pressure switch) is located on a 2012 Coumntryman S R60?
I had an issue with a R50 mini 2002 model . When in gear ⚙️ it makes a slight whining noise . If i put my clutch in the noise disappears any advise guys
I dnt have a mini coop but my car had this part an i think its goin bad because every morning on when i crank it up my bov blows off like 4 times. Could this part be the reason for that
Just curious why you would change the new spring out for the old spring?
This part has oil going through it? Im finidng oil after changing the turbo. I changed the seals behind the oil filter housing and cooler. But it seems like it could actually be the diverter valve thats leaking. Cause there is oil dripping from the circular part below it that has the hose attached to it. Thay doesnt have oil in it so im suspecting the diverter valve. I havent got into it again yet but am going to. Does that oart indeed have oil running through it and could be leaking?
I have the half check engine light but no codes with an OBD2 reader, could a broken dv cause it but not send a code?
Hi mate do I think the silver spacer are safe to fit to the car
I have a 2011 clubman S. Had a local shop install a new turbo and now it doesnt "psh" and i get a whistle out of the intake hose that comes out at the grill around 2 -3k rpm and i lose power. Cant find the issue. Any help?
Hey dude, how did your car sound beside you replaced it? Did the engine light come on or did you loose a lot of power? I bought an r56 that has a dump valve installed and I getting the above... 😭
Nice video! Could you tell me what scan tool you used with your mini.
When I shut off mini it makes wining down noise any clue what that means?
I changed the spring for the alta spring, now my engine makes a weird noise when I turn the engine off (like prrrrrrr).
Is it a problem of the spring? Should I come back to the normal one, or the pressure converter is faulty?? Thanks.
Also: my engine used way to much fuel, that can contribute to it or is it a totally different issue??
Edit: the cut-off valve and the pressure converter are 2 different things? How changing the spring can affect one another??
How is the diverted valve holding up? Any issues to this date?
So i have a 2008 mini cooper s and a few months back it had the reduced power light. I did a tune up on it and it helped with the light but my take off seems like the turbo lags. I know these cars are designed to reduce that. It has 116000 on the odo. Also my mpg has decreased would this be a cause for my issue? Turbo seems to sound fine no knocking or grinding
You’re so lucky you have an n14 engine, if I’m not correct. I have a n18 and man putting on the BoV was a pain. Keep up the great videos!
N14 and lucky do not belong in the same sentence. The N14 is horrendously unreliable lol
Late to the party, but I definitely thought the N18 was the better of the two. I'm cursed with the N14 😩
Lucky that it’s unreliable and the timing chain tensioner likes to break into multiple pieces Inside your motor.😂 still a cool car tho don’t get me wrong I just prefer my n18 so maybe I’m biased
@Bimmerdude my 2011 R57 cooper S intermittently seems to hit a wall at 5k revs when at full throttle, like a limiter, losing all boost. Could this be the issue? Seems to do it must in 3rd gear and once warm.
Did you get a limp mode light on your car?
Why did you use the old spring? Sorry, new to working on cars and want to make sure I do everything correctly.
didn't you buy the diverted valve (I'm guessing it's a blowoff valve)at auto zone? if so what was the part # thanks I'm new to your channel I like that your quick at to the point with tips.
Would this bring engine code 2885 Boost pressure control deviation possibility.??? I can here a weird noise in Turbo when car is off? And the half engine symbol popped up..would this part fix my problem?
yes!!
When I did turn on mini last time I have no power and I saw white smoke but when I turn on car today all was good, I removed fail code and now all looking good . What You think ?
Tom bockowski
Hi BImmer Dude. My 2009 Mini Cooper S had a faulty HPFP,which cause rough start in the morning and several codes like multiple cylinders misfire.I did replace HPFP and fuel filter in the tank,because of the oil leak I also install new valve cover.Not far away I replaced spark plugs and 2 ignition coils,because they were faulty. Then car starts fine no check engine light on the dash,but have loss of power. Scanner shows P115D, wich is related to MAF sensor.So I did replace intake hose between turbo and MAF (found crack in the turbo side ) and MAF sensor as well. Still have P115D and loss of power. Do you think the cause of this can be Diverter valve? Or your any advice will be highly appreciated.Thanks.
Hey friend im sorry your having a tough time with your mini :( Its possible your issue is to the DV yes but... instead of using a generic code reader it would be ALOT more helpful if you bought a BMW/MINI specified one. the codes are alot more specific. I use the creator c110. its currently listed on my website. good luck friend!
Any thoughts on this issue, R56 S, n14. Intermittent fault, mainly when under full throttle for a period of time, half check engine light with ccid 029. no stored codes and i can clear the light on my code reader. Possible that diverter valve is on the way out and it cant hold the boost under full throttle?
same
Hey! What do you do with the sensor that has 3 vacuum lines coming out of:
1. Old OEM aluminum diverter inlet
2. Old OEM aluminum diverter outlet
3. Looks like goes to Blow off valve
What's the size for the screws??
Diverter and blow off valve same thing? Mini tells me my blow off valve is sticking on my Turbo and it will eventually fail is this what you just changed a simple bolt on piece?
I just put a bov on and now I’m getting check light same bov in video please help
This will probably horrify people in the comments but... an amber drivetrain malfunction error came on in my 2016 mini cooper s w/ 65k ish miles. I don't live near a dealership, local garage is quoting $1.5k to replace the BOV because of labor. Does that sound right to you? Thanks!
Thank you for posting videos. As a female I have no idea how to do mechanic work myself but I'm eager to learn and fix things myself. My question is. Why are you putting the old spring on the new part? Could you explain to me why? I'm sure there is a good explanation but I have no clue. Thanks
Thanks for making your way to the channel. I hope i can help you in your Journey to becoming mechanically incline ! I used the old spring mainly because it was a upgraded ALTA spring designed to help the turbos stay in the power band a little bit longer. You can see that video if you go back and look at my very first few video from when I started the channel.
Hope that helps and welcome!
I am guessing that the old spring was in very good if not perfect condition. From looking at it in the video the spring does look pretty freaking good. He also said all of the dealer shops were closed and from personal experience I know that the spring is a part that can only be bought from either a dealer or you can order one on Amazon. I believe that the guy wanted to get his Mini rollin ASAP and since the spring was in good condition he decided to go ahead and use it. That is just my opinion. He may have a completely different reason.
did you had code 2C57 fault?
Half power light appears when i try and accelerate too hard on an uphill. Wondering what the issue is. I have a 2011 mini cooper s.
It was the sparkplugs and ignition coils all good 👌
Great video mate, however would be better without the music or maybe make the music quiet. Thanks anyway for making a good guide 👍
Agreed. Every vid the audio is low compared to the annoying music. Captions are the way to go.
Or maybe get some Slipknot on there instead?
@@solid_snayke6905 can't forget the slip lol 🖖
Wot year is Ur Mini Cooper mate
Like the music also.
Can this part if damage cause a low boost reading. Thanks
absolutely. you should receive a half power notification on your HUD
My friend just checked my mini with his snap on reader. Apparently it's misfiring on across all 4 cylinders, but it runs great no loss of power. He pulled the code 28AA (blow off valve plausibility) is this what I need to change? Also pulled 2B64 (intake manifold Unmetered air) not sure what that's for, but it has an oil leak and putting out fumes into the bay and out the exhaust so I'm working on that first.
I got misfire and 28aa code too, exactly the same issue! How did u solve that after?
@@SirThisWayPlz I went ahead and replaced the diverter valve mine was jacked up. Replaced the vanos solenoid it was real dirty and grimy. Reset the ECU and that was that.
My 09 cooper won’t accelerate past 25 mph can’t this be it
Hey Man,
I have a 2011 Mini Cooper S Clubman.
50/50 of the time when i crank up I get a cloud of white smoke. I can't tell if it is coming out when I drive, but when I'm idling, its pretty clear.
I can confirm my antifreeze level is maintaining. I don't see any other fluid leaks other than the AC. My oil seems burn through fast though. I changed my oil last week and I am still getting the smoke on startup. Performance doesn't appears to be lacking that much.
Do you think this could be head gasket or PCV Valve related? Or any other ideas? I have a new set of spark plugs coming soon and a compression tester.
Bobby hey man thanks for watching the video If I had to make an educated guess I would say that the white smoke is condensation since your coolant levels have not changed. Going through lots of oil is typically indicative of a PCV issue of some kind that doesn't mean necessarily your PCV system is not functioning it could merely mean you have quite a bit of coking on your valves which leads me to my next educated guest the plumes of smoke that you do see on Startup. The oil consumption that you are seeing could most likely mean your valves are coated enough to where it is retaining more oil Blow by and will likely cause a misfire very soon. I would not suspect a head gasket that would be a last resort but a worst-case scenario could be a leaky valve seal but that would be dependent on your mileage I would start with a valve decoking service before I went that route. Hope that helps good luck!
Bimmer Dude I forgot to mention, that even if I drive for like 20 minutes. Then if I open the oil cap white smoke pours out too
On my 09 its attached to the valve cover gotta change this and valve cover with gaskets.
The pcv valve (positive crankcase ventilation valve) is part of the valve cover and my be what you are thinking of, the diverter valve as shown is correct for I believe 2006 to 2013.
Is this for a turbo engine? Gas or diesel? I’m having a very difficult time locating mine on a 2009 Mini Cooper clubman.
Help?!?
Hi I’ve got bran new turbo and fitted the silver spacer with the holes in but my engine check light keeps coming on’How hav u managed to keep Urs on with no engine light please help
Im assuming your still using your factory diverter valve. the Blow off valve (spacer) should not cause an engine light.
if you dont have a mini specific code reader then your going to have a tough time tracking down your issues period. i would suggest not modifying your mini further until you pick one up. this is what i use
www.ebay.com/itm/C110-EOBD-OBD2-Scanner-Airbag-ABS-SRS-Diagnostic-Fault-Code-Scan-Reader-For-BMW/232124127677?epid=555620265&hash=item360bad19bd:g:gGoAAOSwn7JYDhbO
Bimmer Dude high I’ve bought the silver spacer part as the turbo come standard with not one on and fitted it my self but the light keeps coming on and when I remove this the light stays off’
I get the code whipped on the diagnosis machine but once I’m driving and put foot down lift pops up for few seconds then goes away
would this be a cause for my 2012 Mini Cooper S countryman R60 running at half power? Today the check engine light came on with the code CC id 029. It starts and runs but when I try to go, it feels like its a 1 cylinder engine. Having a hard time trying to pin point the problem. I hope its not a HPFP.
Dylan I'm not exactly sure what that particular code is for it could be related to the high pressure fuel pump the only way to truly know is to have a mini specific code reader. I use a creator c-110. Before you begin to diagnose for other issues you'll want to measure the fuel pressure at the rail it needs to be over 500 psi anything lower than that your pump is failing. Hope that helps thanks for watching
Bimmer Dude thank you for the advice! and what do you mean by testing it at the rail? Sorry never had a fuel pump go out on me before
Dylan sorry it's just a figure of speech it basically means testing the strength of the fuel pump where it should theoretically be at its strongest i.e. the rail
Weak fuel pumps tend to exhibit erratic fuel pressure that will fluctuate below 500 if you don't have access to a code reader you can have this done at most European Automotive Shops and they should do it for a diagnostic fee
Bimmer Dude all good, I understand what you mean now. And I dont have a code reader, sadly. But I do have an AutoZone near me that I can get a fuel pressure gauge to rent. I will try that, thank you for all your help!
Why did you change the spring from the old one to the new one, when the new one came with a spring?
The Alta spring is more stiff than the stock spring, I too use the Alta spring in mine
did a thermostat change on my 2010 r56 s and all my mini does now is misfire and stutter if I give it more than 20% throttle, I have no idea whats wrong 62000 miles
Jaykob Smart make sure you have put all your vacuum hoses back on and plugged all your sensors back in and fully seated.
so I got a message on my 2009 mini cooper jcw that says "engine reduce power" do you think replacing this valve would fix my problem? Thank you
Its a bit hard to say with out a Code reader designed to read Mini cooper error codes unfortunately. Check out my 5 ways to make the mini cooper more reliable video I listed the one I used on there.
Would this applied with the n18 engine too ?
ya but from my understanding the n18 came with the slightly updated version on the n14 diverter valve.
Parts are dirt cheap for my 2000 regal thinking about getting a mini how does the cost of parts compare ?
Stay away from mini coopers!
It’s a money pit!
Bought for my daughter and it’s constantly replacing parts.
does this also count for the n18 engines?
Yes
Maybe I missed it but I did not hear you explain the symptoms your car was having before the change. Please elaborate. Thank you
Hey alfredo, the most common symptom for this will be a flutter sound when you let your foot of the gas pedal / change gear, a good working diverted will make a choo noise where a broken one will go choo choo choo choo choo, called compressor surge. :)
What's up bimmerdude! Just bought my wife a 2013 mini cooper s. My question is this ... after a drive with engine turned off. I hear a buzzing sound from the engine not too loud. Opened the hood and can't figure where it's coming from. It does silence after a few minutes. Have you run into this problem yet?
Mazda Rx7 FD 1993 awesome man! Yeah that sound is pretty normal I believe we do hearing is the mechanical vacuum pump it is driven by the camshaft closest to you if you're standing in front of the car. It's pretty common and it shouldn't be too much cause for alarm how many miles is there Cooper have on it?
Bimmer Dude 38k miles on the mini it's pretty mint and i convinced wifey to get the manual. Lol
Mini coopers cpu's run constantly when the engine is off. you have fans for the cpu, along with a fan in the glove box. I travel a lot and have noticed different fans and other (computer) items turning on and off thru out the night when I sleep n her. One of the main reasons if your Mini sits for a while, or you only drive a couple miles a day you need a battery tender.
its the electric water pump circulating coolant through your turbo which helps prolong the life of the turbo
Hi.
Why did you change the springs.
He had an upgraded Alta spring in his old diverted valve and wanted to change it over.
Why did you swap out the springs onto the new part?
It was an Alta performance spring as opposed to the bland OEM one...
Bimmer Dude!!!! so my r56 keeps going into limp mode sometimes when i accelerate to hard or fast. im not sure f this could be the proble for that. please help !
it dosent happen often, but i clear the code and it returns only when i hit the pedal a bit harder than usual on the freeway or even on the streets. its and automatic 2010 mini s.
Mine does the same thing in sport mode. Upgrades this weekend!
Same problem on my MCS 2008 (r56). I try EVERYTHING (new turbo, new intake hoses,etc.) any idea ?
Replace the diverter Valve. I had the same issue. Once I installed the one, very easy. The power was back.
I think mine is failing. Manic stage 2 boost has taken its toll. There is a newer revision of the OEM diverter valve that is supposed to very strong. Looks different from this version. Check it out
hmmm link please sirr
Bimmer Dude just ordered mine today from Way. Good price and will be here in 2 days.
www.waymotorworks.com/mini-diverter-valve-r55-r56-r57-r58-r59-r60-r61.html
link doesnt work?
csllover weird it works for me.
I ordered that one while I was still only Manic stage 2 and it worked great. Going forge now that I'm hybrid + stage 3.
Is this what would make you car sound like a kazoo when you turn it off?
Yes sir thats exactly where the noise is coming from. It means the rubber grommet has torn on the unit
Jerald Haddox I’ve been having this problem for so long. I heard that little kazoo noise ever since I got my r56 a year ago and I just assumed it was just a Mini thing, as I’d never owned one before and I couldn’t find anything online. Now it seems like I’m permanently in limp mode and when I got the code checked at autozone nothing came up. This comment just solved a months long search for an answer!
@@BimmerDude Usually it's not the diverter valve making that sound, it's the pressure converter.
I have a mini R56 N14, my forge blow off stopped working, i replaced the selonoid, and still not opening. Wondering what could be?
I have a 2885 code and have just recently done a lot of basic maintenance (plugs, coils, air filter, oil and filter change), along with replacing the 3 vacuum lines (the two that come off near the turbo and the third small one by the end of those two); the code only happens when driven hard (shifting above 4k) or if I accelerate and decelerate in quick succession. Do you think my diverter valve might need to be replaced or adjusted? Your videos are awesome btw
Having the same issue now. Did you manage to fix it?
Same here
Good video, but what is the diverter valve and why do I need to check it ?
Great question sir
a diverter valve, is a manifold vacuum-actuated valve designed to release pressure in the intake system of a turbocharged vehicle when the throttle is lifted or closed. when your valve isnt functioning properly it will not release the pressure your turbo charger has built up which could result in some pretty server issues. (check engine lights and damage to the turbo) hope that helps! and thanks for watching! hope your a subscriber!
Iv fitted one of them bov adapter made the mini cooper s r56 run very rough. Put back to normal all ok. The car has a maf sensor instead of the mass air flow near the filter wonder if that made any difference.
Bimmer Dude do you need to replace it when you have a supercharger?
What are the symptoms for when this has gone bad?
mike johnson mine went bad, and I keep a yellow check engine light on my tachometer, and my turbo is turned off by the car itself
@@alcanfly4405 did you fix yours yourself and get rid of the tachometer engine light? I have the same issue now and don't want to drop 900 for someone else to fix it.
Owen Parent yes, and it did; it wasn’t even a complicated repair
Does your car just go limp mode? Mechanic told me the turbo wastegate doesn't open or close properly causing erratic shaking and limp mode at times
What mileage do you recommend changing the valve?
honestly I would check it with every other Oil Change since your literally right in that area. I dont really think its an item that has a standard shelf life. My car had 70k miles on it when it failed, but thats low mileage for a 2007. Some people are just now changing theirs at 120k +. Definitely dont wait until you have a check engine light though since its only a 50$ part
Bimmer Dude
What symptoms do I need to know when this part is suspect or needs replacement right away? How do you check it if it’s in good working condition? Do I have to open it up?
The most obvious one would be
-Car is running rougher than usual. Among the most noticeable signs that the air diverter valve is damaged is your car running sluggishly.
-Gas mileage is suffering
These would be the signs that dont necessarily cause a check engine light.
Hope that helps
Hi , first im sorry for my English , im from Poland . I have two fail codes 2b32 and 2b31 could You help me ?
. Should I replace diverter valve ? I can't find information about Mini Cooper error codes .
Tom Bockowski
Dumb question, what does this diverter valve do? I saw you vid on the oil catch can and bought one via Amazon. got it for about 29 bucks.
Hello
Hey do you know anything about code 2885
Robin Cabrera
Yes Mine was the boost pressure sensor ! But check vac hoses to turbo too !
Ps This mod will cause it too !!!!
So no torque spec given for the installed bolts??
Also why is the music so much louder than your voice...?
a diverter valve isnt the same as a blow off valve my man. a diverter/bypass sends boost back into the turbo before the inlet.. a blow off valve just sends it to the atmosphere
Let's replace whole car! before it's too late
Your BMW is that a E46 ZHP!!???
Love the vid, but please try not to demolish my ears with unnecessarily loud dubstep which doesn’t even fit the video
SORRY!.. PLease understand.. This was like my 2nd video even on CZcams..i dont even have this car anymore LOL
What is the part number?
opalod007 11 65 7 593 273
thank you
just get rid of that hot air intake, its no good
Throw that forge adapter away!!! It Will give you error codes!!!
The music is a little annoying way too loud
my friends engine light comes on and we diagnosed a code p07041 she has a 2007 s