our plum harvest and thoughts on varieties and uses
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2011
- This long film was made on Friday 29th July and considers where we are with our plum harvest and some of the issues about growing and using plums.
You need a plan for your plum harvest even if you only have one tree, as they can be very heavy croppers in a good year but do not keep once ripe. The plums in the shops have inferior flavour as they are bred to store long and travel far, not for eating quality.
Properly ripened plums are perfect for raw eating. Usually they are ready before the first apple, so growing them extends the period of time you have fresh backyard tree fruit, a great benefit to anyone aiming at 'off the grid' or post SHTF survival.
Many sweet and savoury preserves can be made with plums, they freeze well (best to halve and stone) for winter puddings, and of course its good to share ripe with friends and neighbours.
Please excuse me not putting up recipes for plum puddings and preserves, there are loads all over the web.
You have enough food there to feed a village. Wish more people would invest in their own fruit trees! Loving your log... getting quite a few trees myself even if is for my small residential.
I love you two,from Pittsburgh Pa.God bless you
Hearing the English Carry on in conversation casually reminds me of my grandmother from london. Ive just planted stanley and green gage. Greetings from usa
I know a million people have given you advice. I thought I'd throw my 2€ at you. You can buy wooden 2x2 or if you want to be a big spender aluminum pole. Place it close to the trunk use fence post pounder to jam it into the ground (sharpen the wood) it doesn't need to be that deep. Then attach a metal hoop to the top (maybe do that before you pound it in) then you can take 1 string tie it to the end of branch or middle of branch you won't have to thin if you don't want to. Maybe thin some & don't thin others. It will be the last branch you loose.
There is a place near central Oregon I frequent featuring feral apples, cherries, plums, various nut trees and of course Oregon feral blackberries. Ended up gathering 6 quarts of the remnants of three sweet cherry varieties. A few purples(cherry plums?) were walnut size. Not bad for an hours work. Of course the best wild fruit was 20 feet out of reach upon 30-40 feet of tree. Made for an excellent Gelato.
It is always nice to know where free food resources exist.
@ceadeses we sold both these boxes of Blue Tit plums at Wincehster farmer's marret today, plus an equal weight of greengages and some mirabelle cherry plums, and could have sold more.
And not a single snigger, or even a titter, about the name!
Thank you very much rewstube80 for your kind wishes. I hope you have the best of success with your plum venture. I think you're doing a great thing by preserving the genes of your plum tree and I hope we have more and more people that follow in your footsteps. People have to know that vegetables aren't the only crops worth growing. Thanks for doing your part.
Awesome, vid mate. I had a laugh though, with your wife correcting you on the timings, sounds just like my wife with me...We'd be a mess without them hey. Love the vid mate, you and the wife sound like a great team.
those damsons are an incredible colour
You are doing very well, I am living in South Africa, but your presentation is very well presented. The plums look so delicious and healthy. Well done you reap the fruits of your very hard work. Keep up the good work and have a great day.
All sorted Steven thanks keep up the great videos!
I think you may want to look into compost tea disease control. I recommend the Evans brothers.
Love Green Gage and Damson***Thanks for the Update***
Hi, Stephen, thanks for your reply.As your information, Malaysia is a tropical country, so I'm not sure whether there is suitable to plant the plum.However, thanks for you to upload these video.All the plums that you shown on the above video look so nice!
I love plum.
nice plums! they look good. But, santa rosa will always be my fav. variety! They are just so flavorful, juicy and sweet.
If theres a way to learn about the various breeds, I suppose walking about the yard and eating them straight from a bunch is hard to beat. Thats honorable work you do there, in my mind.
Thanks Jakeyv the tree is a separate tree & DEFF NOT A SUCKER i undestand what your saying & will be getting future trees from a nursery, This was realy just to save the tree from destruction who knows maybe it will provide fruit one day many bees & trees are nearby so there is good chance of that. Thank you very much for taking the time to give good advice! Right two varieties ok thank you!
Those are beautiful trees hopefully mine get like that some day
Yes, I would graft new scions onto the suckers you dig up, since rootstocks are cultivated for their disease resistance and/or hardiness. Talk about a cost effective way to grow fruit. I wish you the best.
*Nice Video*
at 10:25 you talk about picking the lowest hanging fruit because of a fox eating the fruit. I live in San Diego county and here I have coyotes that eat the low hanging fruit. The coyotes jump up into the trees and break branches and make a mess of the fruit. The coyotes also eat the persimmons, peaches and nectarines. So, I have cut off the branches below 6' to prevent the coyotes from damaging the trees and biting and ruining the fruit. I have to use a ladder now to pick the fruit.
Wow!
@danchirit I didn't perceive any criticism, all hionset questions welcome, although Im sometimes too busy to answer......
Glad to hear Cox does well for you.
Very beautiful and informative video,Stephen !!! What plums,you've got ,this year !!! The year of plums....Bye.
Brilliant thanks! JakeyV hmmm well yes certainly costs little in cash but does take a lot of effort! But effort worth while by any means & i feel good for making plants survive ect + it helps reduce carbon footprint asswell no fuel burnt (cycle), sustainabilty is the key to life & i hope i have given new life to these trees for many yrs to come, Thank you for all your advise & kind wishes Lets hope they live & prosper & fruit for yrs to come, All the very best to you & to Steven for this video.
Yet another excellent presentation. We're trying to improve our neglected orchard in the Clyde Valley, although canker is everywhere up here. And this year the rabbits have been very active, worse luck. We're attempting to expand into berries of various sorts from blueberries (in pots), through the standard and ubiquitous rasps to the more unusual Saskatoon berries. We are part of the Clyde Valley Orchard group, all amateur orchard enthusiasts. I believe a few other member subscribe to you too.
I need to get some of these
Get some damson gin made!!! wait till first frost and it'll be ready for Christmas. good vid
Thank you for your video. I only wish that we had a video like this for the SE USA when I started out. Maybe I will post such a video when I get ripe fruit.
For the SE USA, no European plums and few Asian hybrid plums can take our heat and humidity. The ones that do are: AU Producer, AU Roadside, AU Rosa, AU Rubrum, Byron Gold, Black Ruby, Ruby Queen, Ruby Sweet, Robusto, Segundo, Gulf Beauty, Gulf Rose, and Gulf Blaze. (The last 3 are for Florida, extreme South GA and gulf coast only.)
@crazyamazondude Quince A. you can get quince C which is smaller but I prefer the extra vigour, our soil is light . If you had perfect gropwing conditions quince C might be better. We have also planted some perry pears on seedling pear stock, these will eventuially give very tall trees, taller than a house. Thje fruit is shaken down and pressed to make perry, this is not an advisable stock for dessert fruit.
Thanks, I hope to do o care videos for the SE USA when I begin to get fruit in my new o in GA.
Also, I led planting a community o in a Cree reserve in AB Canada two years ago. I'm helping develop an agricultural training program for their tribal school around the o and will be visiting 3 times to make o care videos for the local climate to be used in the school. I hope to post them on U tube by fall.
My next project: Is to start a community o on the Cherokee Res. in NC USA this fall.
how old are those trees?
I do believe that I have a Sport Plum tree. Years ago I bought a decorative plum tree with purple leaves. I wanted the purple leaves, that's all. I didn't want fruit. But the greengage took over and I never DID get any purple leaves. I just had the massive tree pruned again, and we get those small wild plums which are good for jam apparently. The neighbours collect them. Nearby, a tree grew from a stone and now I have another huge tree. This one produces a few purple leaves and purple plums.
Hi Stephen I'm a big fan of your videos I just had a question for you I just bought a green gage plum and my neighbour has a damson I also have a president but I know neither of them are pollinating partners with green gage however there are an abundance of ornamental plums around and I've read that green gaged are partially self fertile I also keep bees to aid in pollination should I consider a partner tree ?
YOUR RIGHT JakeyV i did not relise how far out from the mother tree that suckers could reach so having now looked at one of stevens videos i would now say yes they probably are the suckers but veyr well established, so i wonder would you recomend grafting a new veriety plum scoin onto the tree for pollenation i have more verieties available growing a few miles away? Thank you.
Hi Mandy. It would be presumptuous of me to make any suggestion as I do not know the Malaysian climate. I would advise you if I could, but my best advice is to seek local advice.
kind regards.
G00D Afternoon from Auckland, New Zealand it’s Thursday, February 27, 2020.
Have you heard anything about a new pruning system called a v system?
I'm hoping to get a few plums of our trees this year. I need to get some of those plastic storage containers. Do you store your fruit in them during the winter?
Hi Stephen, I wanted to know what rootstock do you use for pears?
You got a nice looking crop there. Such a sweet area. Is that your wife in the video?
@FLORINOID I'm pretty sure they are all on St Julien A. They all came from Blackmoor nurseries, I suggest checking their excellent and informative web site.
Thanks for that information, More than half of my subscribers are from the USA and I am aware that not all I broadcast is relevant for them. If you can put up some relevant videos for USA I will be delighted to promote your channel to my subscribers.
Have you tried any of the Prunus salicina varieties in the UK?
I've just ordered and grafted in some Santa Rosa from the US as an experiment.
Other varieties are available in the UK (Methley etc) but the source that I've found for scions had sold out this year.
Thanks, it gives us both a lot of pleasure to know that we have been able to pass on what we learned to folks who are like we used to be, enthusiastic but short on knowledge.
The Blue Tit was about 8 years old last year and that was its first crop, 30kg, maybe more. We have planted 2 more, from Blackmoor. What we like about it is that its a very healthy looking tree and doesn't break branches-it MIGHT even be the solution to our very bad bacterial plum canker problem, too early to say.
Dear Steven how are you, i like your videos & wonder if you can advise me about growing my own tree in my garden it has recently been saved from an area that will be chopped back & so i managed to save one of the young trees that are growing from seed under the mother trees, i have the tree now transplanted in my garden, however am i right in thinking i will need another plum tree in order to polinate the tree i have already, there are 7 more trees to rescue before they are destroyed? Thank you.
@danchirit the latter, we should have cut them but didn't due to too much else to do. we will. take it from me, they are suckers not from stone, they areise from teh root system as you can see when you dig them out.
Hi,Stephen. I'm from Malaysia.Can I known all the plum trees that you upload on your above video is suitable for plant in Malaysia?
Any comment?Appreciate for your reply.
wonderful video--great info, delightful presentation, and even some excellent cinematography! Thank you both!
IF YOU MIX HALF WHITE LATEX PAINT. AND HALF WATER, YOU WILL HAVE LESS CANKER. JUST PAINT THE TRUNKS.
hello i would like to ask whats wrong with my plum tree there are loads of green plums and they seem to be falling of why r they falling of 🤔
You might need something a bit bigger than a ruler to measure the inter-plum distance. May I suggest a tape measure?
In the event that Stephen is unable to reply in time, I'll try to answer your question.
The young trees that are growing under your mature trees are likely suckers identical to the rootstock of the mother tree, unless you are absolutely positive that they were grown from seed. If you're not sure that they are seed grown, I'd get another variety from a nursery, or if you have time, grow another one from seed. It's unlikely that the one small tree you've already saved is self-fertile. So either
i can feel it down in my pluuuums
WHAT KIND OF ROOTSTOCK ARE YOU USING FOR PLUM TREES?
@believeingonhim tidy them up and leave to heal.
how does the Opal deliciousness compare with Italian prune plum?
How can I get these kind of plums here in west africa.
way, you'll want to keep two different varieties.
Happy fruiting.
The plum tree looks like a bit of a suicide tree, setting too many fruit beyond those she can hold and then collapse upon itself, it's so strange. I wonder if it was never meant to go beyond a sort of "bush" state, resting its heavier branches on the floor.
Hai Stephan my plum tree is 5 years old but never bear fruits .. why
It could be any thing from chill hours to fertilizer to water to sunlight those would be the first things I looked at.
What zone are you in and what variety is it?
When is the earliest I could see mature fruit.
It depends on your area, plum tree is a Mediterranean fruit , its Ripe end of July though August , whole month , and ends with September .
I have some pic;s of Ripe Plum , this on the video is not Ripe , you will see by the color , Shown here very clearly drive.google.com/open?id=1u95r9bCz7biJkdp6bqnJ_EnA_F7sdEOv
You need to prune!
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@crazyamazondude MUST BE QUINCE!
Yes, apples but not plums-they don't keep.
Here in the US I have some personal experience with the common blue ball plumb but have yet to run into the elusive blue tit plumb.I will keep a sharp eye out!
fairy niys
So much fruit seems wasted
They harvest them and sell them. No waste.