40,000+ Years of Unbroken Hindu Civilization l Nilesh Oak l Indic Studies Toronto
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- We always wonder if the anchors of Hindu civilization such as Ramayana, River Sarasvati, Rigveda, Indian astronomers such as Mayasura and Aryabhatiya, Ayurveda founders such as Sushruta and Charaka and Darshana seers such as Kapila, Gotama, Kanada, and Patanjali actually ever existed or occurred.
This presentation presents empirical, objectively testable evidence from 12+ disciplines of science that decisively determines and corroborates key sheet anchors of Hindu civilization, establishing a timeline of 40,000+ years in antiquity.
About the Speaker: Nilesh Oak researches astronomy, archeology, anthropology, quantum mechanics, economics, ancient narratives, and philosophy. He is the author of When did the Mahabharata War Happen? The Historic Ramayana and many other topics of chronological importance in history.
#Sanatanadharma #Vedic #India #Hindu #dharma #indic #civilization #antiquity
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Mr oak I am mr Asplett from England have been meditating for nearly 40 years and am now nearly 81 years old I know I am not this body and realise we are something special you are making me more special being able to look back in time and show use how special the human race really is. thank you very much
Good
Sir, I bow my head. U r my hero.
Instead of filthy bollywood,younger Generation should watch this.
I support you ❤
The time has come to revive and glorify Sanatan and Vedic culture 🙏
Dont believe anything blindly
@@Ragnar638 then either you were a school dropout, or tested every chapter in every subject you were taught! Or maybe you are racist and only believe in books written by westerners 🤷♂️
Nilesh Oak, Shrikant talgeri, Raj Vedam, Ydnyadevam, Rajiv Malhotra, Devis Frawley are the real heros, real idols of today's generations.
Fantastic. I am hoping one day we as Indians start believing these findings. Right now we are looking for west acknowledgement which will never come because for them world started in 6000bc.
EXACTLY 😂😂😂😂
@@aryasingh0108 It could of started 10 000BCE WHO CARES?? it won't make a difference to Sanatana Dharma and it's followers. That abrahamic propoganda won't last long it's all just a fabricated story trying to cover up the truth. You can't always hide the absolute truth they may have delayed and caused alot of delusion to humanity but eventually the truth will surface and smack them and their blind followers in the in the face😏🕉️
Mahabharata mentions ( in Adi parva - section 177) Mlecchas like Yavanas , Dravidas , Keralas , Sakas , Sinhalas
Came out of
The cow Nandhini and fought Vishwamitra’s army :
The Mlechhas were :
Yavanas - Indo Greeks (180 BCE- 10 AD )
Sakas - Indo Scythians ( 150 BCE-400 AD)
Dravidas - Tamilakam ( 600 BCE - 300 AD)
So how on earth did Mahabharata happen in 5561BCE ?
The mistake made by the Christians is that time is linear. It is NOT. Look at all ancient civilisations -- they worked on cyclic time. The Christians will be quite accurate IF they looked at time as a cycle. The Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University & Mayans subscribe to approx 5000 years. There are sources that say baby Krishna was born in 3114BC, approx 5000 years ago. IF we see him as the 1st prince of Satyug & the PUREST human soul, he would be the 1st human being on earth. This may go against scriptures but the bodiless Paramatma thru a human medium called Prajapita Brahma [1936 to 1969] has shared that Krishna was & will be the 1st prince of Satyug, the purest human soul. Pl check out the book Flash Time on cyclic time by Jules Boles.
@@randomperson6141 don't spread false mahabharat doesn't mention daravid this Aryan and Dravidian theory are British ideology to divide and rule and our leaders foolishly followed their fake ideology because of their British education of course they don't have any historical backing just theory to divide
Why is this not mainstream and made a documentary upon? Just 8k views. 😑 Great work sir. Thanks
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Start sharing and start studying :)
Sir, you are coming up with so many interesting facts about Indian history. Will donate generously to your cause soon.
I don't know if you're reading the comments or not, but Im following your videos with great interest. Very exciting for me, because I love the Scriptures, but to have them dated and validated in practical terms is a huge step forward from how they used to be dismissed as 'nonsense'. It also helps to discuss spirituality in this light. Great Work Nilesh Oak.
So Hinduism is actualluly a ‘Sanatan’ Civilization! Thank you Nileshji for your untiring research with astronomy proofs to show us that Hinduism is a scientific state of mind.
Koti koti 🙏🏽
Truely fascinating, thank you sir.
Those who have seen 17000+ years of unbroken civilization, they will get this video in their recommendations and will watch just like me 😅
Actually Hindu civilization is much older than this. Bharat is cradle of human civilization.
Please please keep this conversation going n going in more depth as there are lots of questions.
Amazing, fascinating, new grounds in civilizational study .. you , your work are an asset to Indians and the world..
Everyone seems to be praising Nilesh Oak ji only, let us take a moment to praise PV Varthak Sir also, for his great contribution and inspiring so many including Nilesh sir.
Indeed, Dr. P V Vartak deserves 'Bharat Ratna'.
Also Rupa Bhati ji
I will share it as much as possible and tell others to do so🤗🤗🤗
Pls don’t share misleading info
Mahabharata mentions ( in Adi parva - section 177) that ,
Mlecchas like Yavanas , Dravidas , Keralas , Sakas , Sinhalas Came out of
The cow Nandhini and fought Vishwamitra’s army :
The Mlechhas were :
Yavanas - Indo Greeks (180 BCE- 10 AD )
Sakas - Indo Scythians ( 150 BCE-400 AD)
Dravidas - Tamilakam ( 600 BCE - 300 AD)
So how on earth did Mahabharata happen in 5561BCE ?
@@randomperson6141how do you know those are greeks, indo scythians etc and how on earth someone came out from a cow?
@@randomperson6141 proofs???
सनातन धर्म को आप जैसी महान आत्मा ही जीवित कर सकती है
This just opened up a new perspective to me to validate Indian history through archeological, biological, astronomical and geological evidences... Great research and Analysis. Thank you Mr. Oak 🙏
Sir u r a gift for my great country India.Greatest respect nd love for u
Nileshbhai you have made a big leap this time... Last time I watched your video about 17000 years of unbroken civilisation...
U r the best I really 💓 u
Best TIME WE LIVE IN
In my head i can just see that ancient scientist surveying The vast plains of northern india .. naming rivers .. documenting them .. spreading the knowledge to far off kingdoma. its facinating. Who would have funded such expeditions. How was the knowledge gathered.. tested and hypothesized and proven...what kind of ethics were in play? How did they maintain the authenticity and sanctity of data gathered?
What iid of peer review existed.. what were the checks and balances..
Is oral history actually better than written history.
Because scripts and languages changes.. books can be burnt.. stones destroyed and eroded...
But memory stays. If the pronunciation and words are committed to the generational memory then it wont change.
I listen the talks of Nilesh ji and few others on ancient chronological findings. Time has come to sot together of all the experts and come up with agreed datelines for students and common public. Books in Indian languages for Schools as well as for research scientists should start coming.
When they agree on something and change school books THAT will be a miracle. haha!
Thank you so much for this 😊
Thank u.. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Those who havent been to Bhimbetka, please plan to. One of my most memorable experiences ever...
Great work Nilesh ji 🙏💐
Sanatan dharma is eternal ❤
Thanks
Proud to be a Sanatani
Jai Hindutva
jai Shree ram 🙏
Jai shree ram
U r the incarnation of some our greats...
अप्रतिम, अद्भूत...🙏🙏🙏
Archeological evidence is possible when something ends and no new civilization settles on that for a while, but in India it was continous
great work.
जिस देश को अपना इतिहास पता नहीं हे,
उसे अपना भविष्य भी दिखाई नहीं देता।।
Bharat Ratna for Nilesh🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great work! sir
Amazing deliberations and great lecture. Sh. Nilesh Oak ji is modern rishi. 🙏🙏
Shaat(100) + (marathi) uudari sprouting from stomach = shaatudari
I would go back millions if not trillions of years....Sanatana Dharma is forever alive
Very good info and your hard work on this research
Like Mr Oaks work, thanks for doing it for us
Very nice sir
I subscribe all channels where Nilesh sir gives presentation.
I feel I am a time traveller now...plese keep your lights on us
This is a great study. I am at archeology C21 organization is planning a project to find Krushnadham. Your talk "where is Dwaraka" has a new direction and insight into the project. My goal is to find the underwater submerged city, map it find artefacts. If possible find Shri Krushna's ocean-faring sunkenship which can be dated. this will bring Universal acceptance of our thoughts and discoveries.
I listened whole video and it is really fantastic.
I would like to add something about astrology. Actual vedic astrology is nakshtra astrology only. It is more accurate than the common astrology practiced by many many astrologers. Astrology based on only rasis is not giving correct results.
Many astrologers are not aware that the main piller of rasi astrology is Vimshottari dasa system is based on only nakshtra calculations.
There are three segment of 27 nakshtras, each is segment has 9 nakshtrs and covered in 4 rasis.
First 9 stars are - Ashwini, Bharni, Krittika, Rohini, Mrigshira, Ardra, Punarvasu, Pushyam and Ashlesha.
Their lord in the same sequence are : Ketu, Venus, Sun, Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter Saturn and Mercury. For next sequence of nakshtra same ownership to each planet is same sequence is assigned. Thus for example : Ashlesha , Jyestha and Rewati stars are owned by Mercury.
Vimshottari dasa is designed for 120 years life span of a person in her/his horoscope. Each planet is assigned some years like Ketu has 7 years, Mercury is of 17 years and similarly some years for each owner of these stars.
Every astrologer of rasi astrology works on Vimshottari dasa system, but have not much idea that dasa system has been designed from the nakshtrs only.
In Kerala there some some astrology from old texts which work only on nakshtra system no rasi system.
In eighties Krisnamurthy from Chennai developed nakshtra astrology which uses both the system- rasi and nakshtras. It gives amazingly correct results.
Therefore, my thinking is that rasi system might have come from out side like Babylonia or Sumeria ; and integrated with nakshtra system. But the perfection of astrology comes from nakshtra astrology only.
Nakshtra astrology is prevalent only in India and no other system of astrology western etc use nakshtra system as on today.
This is not only 40000 years civilization, sanatan dhatma is eternal.
Yes to deep tapasya ..so true sir
The reason I do not believe that Ashwini would be the first nakṣatra in the previous cycle prior to this one is because while the precession of equinoxes is happening at 24-26,000 years at a time, the nodding of the earth is also happening in 41,000 years. After every precession cycle, the north pole is pointing to a different star because 24-26 does not divide evenly into 41. The axis is going to be pointing at a different spot at the end of every precession and at the end of every nod. This is a way to uniquely time stamp practically EVERYTHING, hence the phenomenon that you could see a part of Agastya from south of Bhārat during THAT time frame. The sky is a timer because of the unequal cycling of both types of movement of the Earth.
great info. its beyond human science
Jai Shree Ram 💪🏽🚩🚩🚩🚩
Great work. I hope our young generation read and listen to your work to understand our roots and not the information about us by western world.
Thank you for this discourse. I agree, we have been very apologetic about our heritage, the European 'enlightenment' was okay for Europe, not India. and I never actually bought into the Aryan invasion theory, had serious doubts, it never fit into the reality of India.
Wonderful information on our ancient history Have you published a book on this subject
Yes you can found his books on subbupublications
Sir please ye program hindi me banay kharab hindi bhi chalegi ya fir hindi subtitle hi de do 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Mr Nilesh i respect the amount work and knowledge you have. I am also happy to see a fewlow six sigma professional reaching such pravinya in such ancient history. This needs to be more popular and thr are somethings u should do
1) please add timestamps
2) divide in 12 to 15 mins video. Make a series.
3) improve voice quality and volumen
Thank you.
@@NileshOak thanks for the reply from the great man himself
Time for revival of ancient India sanaatan hindu 🚩🚩 civilizational strength and "Suyash" 🕉️🚩
At 19:50 u said whether the mentioned constellation is of 2000 years ago or 2000 +26000 years ago, is the exact question I always ask..
I am also learning about milankovitch cycles, need to sync it with our scriptures.
Namskar Sir ji
Sir, Great work. Wonderful. It helps us understand our culture and history.
Please may I Ask one thing.... where should be on our modern geographical map for the location of "samudra manthan" to extract "amrit".
In one of his videos I saw reference of Pacific Ocean as sheer Sagar and Nilesh ji was referring manthan as a slow process...One analogy I think of is manthan means brainstorming as well so probably scholars came together and did brainstorming and found all those 14 things which were much like vidyas but not sure about the analogy of halahal Vish... Probably this is the task of research
27:50 this was epic ❤️
Remember the fictional „Wakanda“ from „Black Panther“ ?
Given 40,000 years India 🇮🇳 should have became a REAL WAKANDA! Or a galaxy wide hyperpower.
Q: "Celestial + terrestial phenomenon, Maitrayani up. (40 000 - 34 000 BCE); How old are the Upanishads according to your research?
Rigveda states that it's about 196 million years , Upanishads may be approximately about 1-2 millions years ago.
upanishads are not older than rig veda , upanishads are dialogue btwn teacher n student exchanging question and answer
@@gauravgupta6969 big L
- Rgveda 196 mill yrs old...? At what time did the Homo Sapiens arise as a species on this planet? No, I don´t think it can be that old. And yes, linguistical analysis & the references to Rgveda in the Upanishads definitely places them as being later. My overall impression after looking into recent research, especially by the researcher & scientist Nilesh Oak, reveals that the origin of both seemingly is considerably earlier than scientists so far have thought. But this is not to state that the older the better. My own impression is that the Upanishads by far surpass the content of Rgveda. This for me not in a so-called spiritual sense, but rather that they fully encompass and embrace all aspects of living.
@@TheCinmatra lol not 196 million yrs, the early mandala of rigveda is 21k yrs old or even more (based on mention of river saraswathi)
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75 Thousand years of civilization
@Nilesh oak, pandit ji mhanen me tumhala, mala pan he sarva study karaycha ahe. Konta prakashan vachu vedancha ani puranancha.
Every civilization has a memory of 'Pralay'.. Can we date it?
23:30 that's why knowing your language is important, Americans now don't even know what was their ancestors language 2000 years ago, even world doesn't know what relegion, culture was of their ancestors had more than 2000 year ago, what a shame they also feel it
I feel bad that iNDiA was soo large back then, all our ancestors must be really dissapointed in us
The surviving texts of Rugved starts with the first verse stating that we do the stutis the same way ancient sages did!!! Surviving texts of Rugved we call it the most ancient n Rugved also refers to more ancient sages!!!
Yaa that is a matter of research as for thousands of years rigveda was learned and passed on with memory itself... Probably it lost it's original touch due to that
Har har mahadev
I'm here after watching your previous ppt for 17k
We in India must have a separate subject from high school onwards for students of Sanskrit+Hindu history coupled with Vedas Upanishads astronomy etc. they must be given free education and allowed to pursue research .
Very informative. Great work 🙏
Powerpack
Once again a well engineered presentation and must confess, i only now understand the reasoning for your framing of all your presented research material. On matter of just talking, framing this programme as Indian Civilization not Hindu, will it not inflate these people's EGO's further because we know it was a creation by Adi Shankaracharya and his time frames are known, just rattling the cages no disrespect ( to you ) intended. Thank you Sir !!!
Who are Indians (How modern #datascience technique Principal component analysis is sorting Indian Genetic code):
Phase1: Neolithic Iranian farmer (dark skinned) from foothills of Zagross mountain (Present Iran), mixed with the local/Indic hunter gatherer group (AASI or first man out of African gene) during 7000 BC to 4000 BC (this is unimaginably HUGE time) - which created first set of Indians who founded Indus valley civilization who had migrated to Central Asia as well during that period
Phase2: Steppe Gene - Descendants of Yamnaya (North of Caspian sea), later became Sintashta (Central Russia) later became Andronovo(Central-South Russia) - That culture invented wheel, learnt how to use horses for fast movement via Chariots, later cultures created practices of HAVAN kunds, Horse Sacrifice rituals, their descendants entered Indian subcontinent (Mostly MEN) around 1900 BC and spread their Paternal Steppe Genes
Phase3: 1900-1000 BC
ASI group: Indus folks with Primarily Iran Neolithic/AASI gene shifted south & central India further mixed with AASI Hunter gatherers and formed the GROUP ASI (Ancestral South Indian)
ANI (Ancestral North Indian) group: Indus folks with Primarily Iran Neolithic/AASI admixed with Steppe gene populated North Indian subcontinent (including Pakistan)
Phase-4 All present day Indians are mix of ANI and ASI population, with Low castes having genome pool closer to ASI group and High Castes Brhamins (also, converted Kashmiri Muslims) closer to ANI group on ASI-ANI spectrum
Phase-5 300BCE-400 AD: Central Asian groups like Kushans and pastoral farmers kept entering India, closer to modern day Jats & Gujjars (historically not part of 4 tier caste hierarchy), mixed with local North Indian groups of that time. Today, this group has highest % Steppe ancestry given they have spend relatively, lesser time in subcontinent than ANI or Vedic Aryans mixing with local population of that time
- Almost all present day indians have mix of Ancient Iranian/AASI/Indo-European(Steppe) genes in slight different %
- Greek from helenic period, Turkish, Mughal & Arabs had not left significant genomic imprints on Current Iranian & Indic population
- I have limited data on Ancient Tibeto-Burmese gene (native Indian group) but ANI mixed with Tibeto-Burmese group near East around Assam region
Source1: Carbon dating & Genetic studies done on skeleton and present day local population (groupwise) after 2010 (data on Eurogenes)
Source2: "Who are we and how did we come here" - David Reich
Source3: "Early Indians" - Tony Joseph
white wash detected , opinion rejected
Doubt/ curiosity is pronounced as " sum- shaya" and not " sun- shaya" , right?
The archeologist B. B. Lal, who led the original excavations at Hastinapura in 1952, gives a date of 950 B.C, based both on archeological evidence and internal evidence from the Puranas.
According to him, the excavated items correspond to the Painted Grey Ware culture, which dates between 1200 BC to 600 BC.(post Late Harappan Phase).
He also says that the date of 3102 BC given by some scholars as unlikely because there is no archeological evidence of anything having existed at these sites at that time. He also gives internal evidence from the Puranas for the same.
Internal Evidence from the Puranas
According to the Vishnu Purana, the King Udayana , who was a contemporary of Gautama Buddha and also his Upasaka( lay disciple), was the 24th ruler after Parikshit from the dynasty.
We know that Gautama Buddha lived between 600-500 BC. So if indeed the war took place in 3102 BC, then it means that 2600 years elapsed between the war and Udayana’s reign. Dividing 2602 by 24 gives an average of 108 years of reign for each king, which is absurd!!!
Thus is fantastic work Nileshji .
Can I get appreciation too ?
Mahabharata mentions ( in Adi parva - section 177) Mlecchas like Yavanas , Dravidas , Keralas , Sakas , Sinhalas
Came out of
The cow Nandhini and fought Vishwamitra’s army :
The Mlechhas were :
Yavanas - Indo Greeks (180 BCE- 10 AD )
Sakas - Indo Scythians ( 150 BCE-400 AD)
Dravidas - Tamilakam ( 600 BCE - 300 AD)
So how on earth did Mahabharata happen in 5561BCE ?
@@randomperson6141 1st of all , come with legal name , lets meet on common platform and argue with facts -evidences from various fields of science - not lazy shallow tid bits from Google translate !!
@@enjoyparents
Google translate ?
First of all google translate isn’t available for Sanskrit !
Man !!
so you haven’t read Mahabharata ?
@@enjoyparents
Doesn’t CZcams look like a platform ?
Are you afraid that - others might read this ?
@@randomperson6141 PROOF FROM OTHER SYSTEMS OF SCIENCE !!??
Weastern people have not understood Indian culture because there is so much DEEP knowledge ENCODED in simple words. Thust to a simpleton it seems absurd. All of Vedas too are similarly written. Also things are remembered longer if the knowledge is encoded. As it is for Aghastya and Arundhati.
I am Hassan from Hong Kong , and back from Pakistan , I am electronics engineer , but recently I am interested in archeology , after I saw CZcams video on the Egypt pyramids, and some Hindu Old temples, carved from stones and some time from one piece of rock
Mostly. Explained by Muhan , when he explains, He always says, this is 1200 years old . But when I see the carvings and the way it’s built, it does not seems to have been carved by hammers and chisels , but it should have been carved by much advanced technology, so it shows that long ago , 40,000 or millions years ago people were more advanced, like the Egypt pyramids are made , though the Egypt Mr Hawas insists that it’s made with stone and copper chisels , but it’s not true that should be built millions years ago with highly advanced nations and using high technology,
Same way the Hindu culture seems million years old , not as we normally think two to three thousand years.
Now when I saw this video , you are going to in right direction .
Your old Hindu scriptures also seems to be millions years old , and if I am not wrong your these books were , also the books probably thought by that time prophets of God , and Dome of your Hindu Gods were actually the prophets of God , but by the time , as they were iconic , of that time laterally they started making their idols and started worshipping them ,
Gotham Buddha . To me was a prophet of God naming Zul Kifl , millions of years ago not as is the story , that he was born 2300 years ago in Nipali in a king house , it’s just a man made story , we need to study more as the history is not correct ,
We Muslims also says that before Noah 12000 years ago we had Idrees and then Adam 🙂, it’s wrong Adam was millions millions years ago and we had one lack twenty four thousand prophets, not just these 23 , so our history is not correct.
We need Hindu nation
Yuval Noah Harari.. a brief history of Humankind.. does he mention or acknowledges any of above facts ?...I wonder
Are your books available in Gujarati too???
Requested you sir, is it possible to speak or translate in hindi that means all indians , or is it available in hindi? Thanks.
WHAT YEAR DID THE VARAHA AVATAR AND THE NARSIMHA AVATAR TAKE PLACE ? HOW MANY YEARS BACK FROM RAMAYANA ... AND MAHABHARATA TIMES !???
31:00
Its really fascinating how Nilesh sir has extrapolated india civilization to 40k years back...just a small request sir don't try to extrapolate it beyond 100k years sir or else the whole evolution of human beings and paleontology and anthropology fileds have to be reviewed sir...
1:04:11
😂😂😂its shameful for us that we were taught that vedas was written in 2000 bce that too by people who came out of iran😂😂
culture not dogma. Its associated Brahma day and life
Most of the time chronology matters the most because that signifies the value of an event and human evolution.
For eg ramayan had mentions of vanar and bhalu now if someone says mahabharat occurred first then it won't make sense because there is a proof that humans evolved from monkeys(tailbone being a proof of it). There is no mention of vanaras in mahabharat which indicates that there was a time gap of thousands or lakhs of years between the two events.
What percentage of the people at any period of time were literate and were able to read the language used in the Vedas? If everything was only passed on by word of mouth whatever ideas were presented in the Vedi scriptures, the out castes were certainly not included while the poor were too busy with their tasks to utilise the ideas in those books and others may have had other problems. I my opinions why weren’t these ideas used to develope the Indic civilisation before ? Is it because they were oppressed by the others in the society?
Mr. Oak please 🙏 inform us about first human being how modern human began. Shri Ram and Hanuman etc are they different species.
Denisovian Hommids date to about 40kyo and their DNA is predominant in SE Asia. Tarin basin mummies date to approx.2500bce.
Why dislikes by fools??