Ravana’s Lanka | Nilesh Oak |
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- Valmiki Ramayana’s evidence points to 12209 BCE as the year of Rama-Ravana Yuddha. However, researchers are still uncertain about the exact location of Ravana’s Lanka. What could be the cause of this confusion and is there evidence to resolve this uncertainty? Nilesh Oak discusses evidence of the last 14000+ years from Valmiki Ramayana, Mahabharata, Geography, Oceanography & Astronomy.
About the Speaker:
Nilesh Oak is an author, researcher, speaker, and a faculty at the Instt of Advanced Sciences in Dartmouth, U.S.A. He has written on Bhishma Nirvana, Ram-Ravan yuddh, and the timeline of Mahabharat. His writings on Indian civilizational history are based on scientific research and evidence-based reasoning
0:00 Intro
3:40 Different estimates about location of Lanka
4:00 Dr. PV Vartak - Vastav Ramayan
6:13 Sri Lanka -History and origin of the name
7:02 Sri Lanka in ancient maps
9:06 Lanka vs Simhala
11:14 Geology, oceaonography & hydrology 14000 years ago
16:04 Geography in Mahabharata times 5561 BC
19:18 Geography in Valmiki Ramayan
29:16 Evidence from Indian Astronomy texts
33:28 Summary of Valmiki Ramayan references
37:25 Artwork by Zai Ji
40:05 Were India and Lanka connected by land?
43:57 Evidences of bodies found in Kurukshetra
48:00 Simhaladweepa and Lanka
51:32 The yugas- Kalyuga
58:03 Astronomical evidence of location of Lanka
1:01:19 Was Ayodhya in Haryana?
1:07:36 Ram Setu
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One thing I appreciate Nilesh Oak's work is that, he has proved beyond doubt that Ramayana and Mahabharata are history of India and not myths as many westerners try to prove.
Kali yuga, see holy science by SWAMI SRIYUKTESHWAR published by YSS /SRF
@@brijprasad3690 they were kings and people who did extraordinary things. Even today there are people like that all over the world. India became poor due to foreign invasions and our idiotic leaders like Gandhi and Nehru
@@brijprasad3690 Gods came to earth as a form of human to complete his objectives as per conditions , after completing they left , everything is preplanned.
@@rahulrao93 no they were not only king, Ram was Purushottam means best of best in men. That quality only presents in Gods, sages.
@@kuru6212 sir please read valmiki ramayana one time. In valmiki ramayana there is nothing mentioned as avatar of vishnu it is only a latter added thing in ramcharitmanas. In valmiki ramayana it's clearly mentioned that he was a normal human but become great as gods by deeds.
All talks by Nilesh must be taught to students across India. Nilesh ji is doing a great service through his "tapasya". Modern day acharya..
No body accept this absurd date 12000 BC except Andh Bhakts like u and Nikesh Oak 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Kanishk Gulwadi sorry but your failed attempt has failed. Lots of people like you including Mughals and British have tried it. But Vedic culture is so strong you can’t destroy it.
@@gujarati16 just ignore ignorant's who has no value for their culture and itihas
We need more Evidences from multiple other works. Then we can.
For now I take this with grain of salt.
@@bhuvaneshs.k638 Agree but u should also do some research to find the truth...
It makes some sense now, I used to wonder why Ravana stopped in Gokarna which is in west coast of India, while returning with Atma linga, while the Sri Lanka we are assuming now is towards the East coast side of India.
good point
Very very logical point....
Superb point
No logic..why would Ravana only choose perpendicular path..
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@@nishantsharma7082 The western coast is closer to the original Lanka at the equator, this is where Nala built the temporary bridge for Raama sena as this was the shortest route.
Ram Ram to all of you
Waiting for this eagerly
Ram Ram mere bhai 🙏❤️
After all these things still there are questions put on Lanka. Let me know how can I get answer
Jai shree Ram
Sit this is fantastic presentation as usual. The question I Have is then is Rameswaram not the original Rameswaram and then is the Ram setu not the original setu? A lot of questions that surely starts. Please note that every place in Sri Lanka has a Rama story. It will be interesting to see how this research will affect that
175 to 150 KM east of Fuvahmulah . That is where Lanka exists . I wish Nileshji could do a private archeological dig there . He can go for crowd funding , many of us do not have the large amount of funds to invest in this endeavor but a crowd funded program could be a game changer . Not only would this reveal Lanka but it would begin a battle against communists archeologists who are intent on destroying the world economy by destroying the history and therefore doing a psychological destruction of not just Indian civilization but also the world .
There is no proof of a land unfortunately.
@@phoenixj1299 For now. But a dig would help.
Nilesh Ji ! You are doing a yeoman service - bringing our past / heritage to life !!
I await this. I read a well researched Article on this where, the detailed description of the Flora and fauna by Maharshi Valmiki gives us an insight on why the present Lanka may only be a part of the whole of Lanka described in the Ramayana OR....
Ram Ram aap sabhi ko. Thanks for your support .
Aapne bahut hi Gyan wardhak bate batai. 🙏🙏
During my middle school days (around 1985), I remember the political/geological charts (in Kannada printed during 1960-70) used during the social/history classes bears the name as Simhala Desha or Simhala Dweepa or Cylone for today's Srilanaka. Wonderful and powerful presentation Nilesh ji. Namo
Also thinking, the land piece of today's Srilanka, was in drifting or transition at Niraksha position ....14 thousand years back?
This research and findings NEED to be taught to all high school children in India. That will disinfect the Indian culture of the falsehoods created by both Islamic and BrUtish cultures.
One of the best channel I have ever found
That effort to equate chhattisgarh to Lanka was deliberate one to legitimize the adiwasi/moolniwasi vs Aryan narrative by the commies it seems
sir i think i have found the answer. it is mt kunjara which is that equator on which there is a big building for agastya. why a sage needs a big house?And also 10 times the hieght than width. It is probably an observatory. It could be todays adhu city in maldives or something submerged under the sea but on the equator for sure. The reason adhu it has old traditions which wikipedia says dates to 2000BC sun faring settlers from Gujrath
Who even tried to equate Chhattisgarh to Lanka?
मनस्वी आणि अभ्यासपूर्ण!
Good work...Aai Bhavani Jagdamba aapansh udand Aayushya Yash Kirti Dyave he techya charni prathana...💐💐
Nilesh, appreciate your research efforts, logical, structured and ease in interpreting Sanskrit verses of our ancient culture which you are reviving 💯🌹🕉🕉👏👏🧡🧡👌
I'm waiting for this sir ,kudos ,salute bow your feet ,,, and koti koti dhanywad
Eagerly waiting for this. Is the Lanka of Ramayan submerged too(like Dwarka) ? Is it off the coast of Maldives? Hope to see some enlightening new info. It's almost like ancient mysteries unfolding with each of your video. Great work so far!
@@clifforddaniels1317 there is always some one to blame? Empiricism was not invented by Westerners, and reality is the Dhamma; nothing else.
@@clifforddaniels1317 sad to be me? You are blaming “academia” as if we don’t have self autonomy. Stop projecting!
Yes my granny ones say lanka was sink to ocean.
sir i think i have found the answer. it is mt kunjara which is that equator on which there is a big building for agastya. why a sage needs a big house?And also 10 times the hieght than width. It is probably an observatory. It could be todays adhu city in maldives or something submerged under the sea but on the equator for sure. The reason adhu it has old traditions which wikipedia says dates to 2000BC sun faring settlers from Gujrath
Then what about the Ram Setu (a narrow bridge that connects India to Sri Lanka in South ) which can be also seen from satellite?....
There is a beautiful analysis and presentation of the geographical location of Ravana Lanka by Mr. Janakiram of CosmicTube channel. It's in Telugu, but I'm sure, his analysis and information adds huge value to your research. You should definitely watch it.
One thing to put on here!
Yugas are actually the measurement of the galactic timeline ! As all seasons have their own characteristics & timeline same with the yugas, it's scientific totally, let me tell, this time is the transitional period for the beginning of new chaturyuga or simply the the kaliyuga's final phase of 28th chaturyuga.
So see, first of all we need to understand that,
[(1 year of Devas = 360 Human Years) note:- time is different at different parts of the universe, and 'Devas' are the higher level of conscious entity than us, they have subtle bodies, not physical & it can be attained by us too if we go in deep through immense penance, because Devas belong to metaphysical world)
So,
Satya Yuga: 4800 divine years
= 17,28,000 human years (Four times of Kaliyuga)
Treta Yuga: 3600 divine years
= 12,96,000 human years (Thrice of Kaliyuga)
Dwapara Yuga: 2400 divine years
= 8,64,000 human years (Twice of Kaliyuga)
Kaliyuga: 1200 divine years
= 4,32,000 human years
This is the fact!! Also, let me tell if we converted 12 hrs of day into deciseconds then, it's result comes 4,32,000 deci-seconds.
So, it can be understood that all these things are as accurated practically the way they are mentioned, it's the measurement of time. In addition, we all should know that, Actually, there's a miscalculation in the age of yugas. (Please read it all till end)
This is the reason why 'Bhavishyamalika' written around 500 years old by Mahapurush Achutanand (all predictions done in 'Bhavishyamalika' is happening every year) & several other Future predictors like Sant Ravidas, Nostradamus, Jay Gurudev including several foreign future pedictors; everyone pointing towards a same point about the ending of Kaliyuga with a great devastation, as it is happening also no doubt about it, with stating the arrival of Lord Kalki for the beginning of Satya Yuga.
(Note: the predictions of all those astrologers are coming true, each event)
So, it's not only about predictions, there are plenty of proofs about it too.
As we all know, Dwarika City was built by Almighty Lord Krishna at the end of Dwapara Yuga ( in order to protect his people from the attack of 'Jarasandh') which is found to be much much older, from radio carbon dating of the submerged city by the archeological team it has been found that, the remains of Dwarika city are 32,000 years & even older including some structures of the city is 200,000 to 400,000 years old which is exactly the time period of Kaliyuga (4,32,000 years)
(Note:- these findings are done in just initial phases there's still a lot more to find there, chances of finding even more ancient structures after further deep excavation in it) So, if we add up:
32,000+400,000 it comes up 432,000 years it's the total age of Kaliyuga that's why from these proofs it clearly indicates the Kaliyuga is in it's final phase & we are on the transformation period for the beginning of Satya Yuga also called as 'Sangam Yuga'
Now, some people may argue by giving astronomical preferences "No, it was happened around 5000, 6000 years ago" some even say 3000 years old being in dillema so for those people: See, the same astronimical arrangements are aligned at the same positions every 5,000/10,000 years so everybody must try to understand these stuffs more deeply.
So, Dwapara Yuga ended 432,000 years ago as according to these scientific proofs, this is the reason why we aren't getting the remains of any kingdom of that period because several external factors with natural calamities played a role for the complete loss of those remains.
The dates & the dynasties that ruled between the time period of King JANMEJAYA (Son Of King Parikshit, who did Nagdahan Yagnya) and his descendants to the age of Gautam Buddha (Pre - Bouddha Age) is still in dark, the political situations, events between this period isn't revealed till now cause, there's a gap of vast timeline.
So, there's a miscalculation in the actual age passed of Kaliyuga, lot of disasters happened in this vast timeline of 4,32000 years, that's why they forgot the actual starting date of kaliyuga & it's age since then, from 5000 back they again started it's counting from the beginning so, that's the main reason why there's always a debate about the time period of Mahabharata war, if kaliyuga was started just 5000 years ago from now then why Dwarika City built by Lord Krishna at the end of Dwapara Yuga is more than 32,000 years old and some structures of Dwarika City are even
100,000 - 400,000 years old, this is the question so, factfully if we look this is the transitional phase for the beginning of full Satya Yuga , same scenarios are around us like; crime will be common at the final phase of kaliyuga, nature will be completely ruined out by humans, as we know nowadays our oceans are full of plastic, just think of it how much our nature can resist it & how much worst things are left still fo be done additionally, girls are now impregnant in just seven/ten years old as mentioned in 'Srimad Bhagwatam, Bhavishyapuran, these cases are lot more than imagined. Additionally, Mughals, Britishers tried their best to destroy the existence of Sanatan Dharma at one period of time, that period was full of cruelty, slavery, miseries, injustice and so on
that's everyone familiar within! Secondly, the consequences, age of humans during the final phase of kaliyuga was written at the end of Dwapara, it was all written as according to the age limit of people belonging to Dwapara yuga because at that time, the age limit of a human was 1000 years that's 10 times of present age limit of humans .i.e. 100 years.
So, age of 100 years old guy of Kaliyug is is equivalent to the 1000 years old guy of Dwapara.
As according to the time limit of Dwapar Yuga, the age of 12 years guy is 10 times of it in Kaliyuga that comes 120 years & as per scriptures, the maximum age of humans will be 12 years at the final phase of Kaliyuga (means as we know 100 years aged guy of Kaliyuga equivalent to 1000 years aged guy of dwapara so, 12 years guy as per dwapara timeline is 120 years of Kaliyuga) So, now it's obvious that 12 years is max human age depicted in scriptures with respective of dwapara age limit is actually 120 years from above calculation and yeah in this last phase, a normal person can live upto 120 years of life only of he/she follows a disciplined way of life along with practice of yoga, pranayama, right diet plan otherwise it seems almost impossible to live upto actual time limit of this phase also.
Similarly, human height will be much smaller at the very end of Kaliyuga as prefered in 'Srimad Bhagwatam' the average height of humans will be of about '3 Hatha' that means 5'5'' this is an indeed an average height of humans worldwide if we calculated the average. ( Note:- It should also be remembered that, height was mentioned in scriptures as per the height of human possess during dwapara yuga, the average height of people during dwapara used to be 12/12.5 feet and on the basis of the physique of that time, height of people in final phase of kaliyuga was calculated which they referred as '3 hathas' as according to the size of hands of people of that time not this time.)
So, these all informations & facts clearly points out that we're in very near for the beginning of new satya yuga of 29th chaturyug, it's an actual fact in addition if we take some scientific preference also, the poles movement of earth that happens on each 432,000 years & it's happening in this present time by changing it's position from Canada to Siberia, Russia which clearly points out on the same thing.
Most importantly, "The main reason of every people being in dilemma about Kaliyuga's age is the carelessness of all scholars, pandits"
As, all the Pandits and other scholars recited the same quote every year "Kaliyuge Pratham Charane, Kaliyuge Pratham Charane" and forgot about it's counting in this vast timeline, forgot to add up years, just repeated the same line 'Kaliyuge Pratham Charane' no one counted it further, just recited the same quote actually written by Maharshi Ved Vyasa at the beginning of Kaliyuga at the Pratham Charan/First Phase of Kaliyuga
That's why, almost 95% people are in dillema in the exact date of yuga, but it can be solved by going through these scientific proofs:
Reference Of Dwarika City:
www.speakingtree.in/allslides/the-city-of-dwarka-had-existed-from-32-000-to-9-000-bc/dwaraka-coast
Pole Changes it's Position in each 400,000 years including 32,000 years that's the age of Kaliyug & happens in each end of yuga as per scriptures:
www.treehugger.com/magnetic-north-shifting-b-miles-a-year-might-signal-pole-r-4863899
I read a very interesting research report about a decade back on a website which is missing now. It established with solid proof that mahabaratha war happened about 432000 years back. I couldn't find that website or report anymore on the web.
You are great sir🙏
My Guru also stated that Satyuga has started with the first bulb that lighted the night.
@@silvarajoomuniandy4316 Yes bro yes it's a truth coz there is a way to identify yuga, "krita yuga savi yogi bigyaani" means krita yuga the first charan of satya yuga, which refers in this time; science will be in it's limit, yoga will be flourished much rapid way and indeed this is happening round the globe.
@@RK-ln5kx Wow sir is it so 😳 can you please state the title of that research report if you still remember about it, it might help me a lot & all the Sanatana dharmis 🙏🧡🙏
Thank you Nileshji and congratulations Krishnaji for an amazing informative question. 🙏
Nilesh deserve Nobel prize!!
Very insightful and educative webinar. Thanks 🙏👍
Mind-blowing research.. awesome 🤗
Sinhala is the native language of Sri Lanka. That's the reason Sri Lanka was called by the name "Sinhala Deepa/Sihala Deepa", which translates to "The land of Sinhalese".Thambapanni is another name used to call Sri Lanka which translates to: "the land where the copper color sand lies".
Great video. Well explained and a great educational as well. Thanks a lot brother Nilesh. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Many people are thinking and confidently stating that Ravana's Lanka is in fact present day Sri Lanka, situated in the South-eastern region of India.
However, the narration given by Sage Valmiki in Sundara Kanda of Ramayana gives a different picture about the location of Ravana's Lanka.
1) After flying 100 Yojanas over the ocean and reaching Lanka, Sri Hanuma observes the scenic beauty of flora of the Lanka. Sage Valmiki describes elaborately in Sundara Kanda.
संततान् विविधैर्वऋकैः सर्वर्तुफलपुष्पितैः |
उद्यानानि च रम्याणि ददर्श कपिकुञ्जरः || (Sundara Kanda 2nd Sarga 13th Sloka)
"Hanuma saw various glorious pleasure-groves filled by various trees that give fruits and flowers in all seasons and beautiful gardens ."
It is necessary to study the following phrase used by Sage Valmiki :
सर्वर्तुफलपुष्पितैः - Trees that give fruits and flowers in all seasons
Modern researches revealed that the equatorial zone on the Earth has the special climatic feature of allowing the trees to bear flowers and fruits in all seasons.
2) According to Srimad Ramayana, in order to search for Seeta at Lanka in Southern direction, Sri Hanuma flew 100 Yojanas over the ocean.
अञ्जलिं प्राङ्मुखः कृत्वा पवनायात्मयोओनयो |
ततो हि ववृधे गन्तुं दक्षिणो दक्षिणां दिश्म् || (Sundara Kanda 1 Sarga 9 sloka)
Hanuma turned towards east, saluted his father, the Lord of Wind and increased his body to go towards southern direction.
Sri Lanka is at a distance of 24 kilometers (approx.) from Rameshwaram. And, it is in the South-East direction from India but not in the Southern Direction.
3) After conquering Lankhini, the Godess of Lanka, Sri Hanuma enters Lanka and searches for Seeta. Sage Valmiki describes what Sri Hanuma saw, as follows:
रथैः यानैः विमानैः च तथा गज हयैः शुभैः |
वारणैः च चतुः दन्तैः श्वेत अभ्र निचय उपमैः ||
Sundara Kanda 4th Sarga 27 Sloka
Aerial-cars and decorated by auspicious elephants and horses and great elephants with *four tusks*
Modern Anthropologists say that elephants with four tusks existed 12-1.6 million years ago.
So Ravana’s Lanka might have existed somewhere in equatorial region only, and Sri Lanka cannot be Ravana’s Lanka
With regards
Everybody is entitled to their own opinions....day dreamers are entitled to make their own dreams the way they like
@@rajwarnakulasuriya5935 Yes! Everyone is groping in the darkness, as the subject in question occurred the remotest period.😄
I am awestruck with your research! A great son of Man Bharati.🙏🙏🙏
Always amazing work. Thanks for your work. A great fan.
Wow, Nilesh ji is here 🙏🙏😄😄
I was also wondering why would Lord Ram reach Sabarimala if Lanka was to the east.
Can wait for this legendary person. 😁😁😄
Summary- 33:24
End- 37:18
Q/A starts at - 39:29
My knowledge has been stopped has been past, but coming to this channel has given me life again
Again a big thank you Nilesh ji.
I was wondering the same thing. Because in Ramayana it’s described that it took hanuman more than a week to reach Lanka from Rameswaram. But the actual distance to current Lanka is not that long.
Kaha pe likha hai? Dikha
This video is just amazing 🙏👌
Great presentation. Had been trying to understand the exact location of Srila lanka recently. Ramayana Says the Vanaras built a 100 yojanas of Sethu across the Indian ocean. Now, we give an average value of either 8 or 9 miles, it will beyond 800 miles from the southern most point of India.
No one knows exact value of Yojna So it's impossible to calculate exact distance. No mention of Indian Ocean. Read सुंदरकांड from valmiki you will get know that Sagra Was expanded by King Sagar. King Sagar was Ancestor of King Bhagirath and it was king Sagar who started Task of bringing Ganga to land from himalyas. The project was completed by 4th generation. To prepare root of Ganga many place were digged stones were cut.
Stunned 🙏
We should adopt Ujain-Thaneswar coordinate's
Time as INDIAN STANDARDS TIME ( IST).
Please Can you divide this video into 4 parts. . I love it. . It's too long in time's now.
Perfect analysis sir .... very good 👍👍
THANK YOU DR.NILESH...!!!
SATYAMEVA JAYATHE...!!!
Wow Always curious about this stuff🙏🏻❤️👍🏼
Great...
Good work
There is a spot on Google Earth at 00 : 79. Shows a rectangular structure. At the north end of it, there's a crossing of two lines, exactly at the equator and 79 meridian. It also shows a viable path from the southernmost point of "then" India to it. Where it appears to have a ridge or a built area possibly a bridge. It is in a curved path and not completely direct south from what used to be the Prime meridian then. Perhaps they took the route most viable through the shallow sea to build the bridge and the observatory/fort at Niraksha. Structure is there.
That sounds very exciting
Just exciting conjecture provoked by Sri Nilesh Oak. Thank you@@kaushiksunapu5657
could it be possible that ravana lanka can be in different dimension ?
because krishna welomes vibhishan at some ponit in mahabharata
Excellent Theory
Proven with all the verses in our
Historical Kavya रामायण
Now my question is
Can we prove it physically!?
Tough h lekin dedication chahiye
Jb se Maine Mayan civilization me similarities dekhi h TB se Mai maanta hu possible h
sir i think i have found the answer. it is mt kunjara which is that equator on which there is a big building for agastya. why a sage needs a big house? And also 10 times the hieght than width. It is probably an observatory. Lanka is surely north of Kunjara as per the verses. So Lanka actually remains where it is. It is Mt Kunjara which is in maldives or something submerged under the sea but on the equator for sure. Maldives islands has old traditions which wikipedia says dates to 2000BC sun faring settlers from Gujrath/Bihar
Yes
waiting!
Thank you so much for the new ideas.
I am from tamilnadu .we used to hear the country called LEMURIA near the present day Kanyakumari.
It was said to be destroyed by tsunami like event which was mentioned in Tamil epic SILAPPADHIKARAM .
Good work. Ravan had kept the navgrah i.e. nine planets in his control as written in ramayan. He also had very good knowledge of astronomy. So this is most natural that he asks vishwakarma to build him an island on zero point on earth. He always wanted control over whole universe. It is stated that he kept sita away from himself at some place and only visited her sometimes. So may be she was kept in today's lanka. But ravan stayed away on his special island , made especially for him. Seems possible. ...just my speculation. Jyoti Dandekar.🙏🏻👍
In an answer to a question about locating landmass of lanka on current map, Nilesh clarified its present day absence while aptly pointing its location on the then prime meridian passing through Ujjain, Kurukshetra etc and at the equator, ‘Niraksha’. If we look at current map near Male, we see the prominent north-south mid ocean ridge, and some prominent masses proximately only between 100 to 200 meters below the sea surface about 5 to 7 degrees south of male. These whole bunch of masses would be above sea level at the time of Ramayana. So the position of Lanka should not be much of a guess work. The mainstream science also supports movements of land masses where the Indian plate is moving slightly anticlockwise and prominently in north-east direction. This must be the reason of the said prime meridian reference line shifting east over these 14k years, that too still showing clear indications of a reasonable theoretical standpoint. Lanka must be the sizeable mass visible just underwater and below today’s Male and today’s oceanic ridge including male islands, which must then be just below the sea surface, forming base for the Ram Setu.
Duniya kuch bhi bole lekin aap jo kahogi sirf vahi sahi manenge hum✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💥💥💥💥💥💥💥🥰❤️
@@srt-fw8nh 😊👍
Sir, I am from tamilnadu, I came to see your video today. We in tamil literature in Sangam period literature there is a vast treasure of information about the sea taken lands, like in "Silapathikaram" there mention about the vast land and rich culture south of the land mass we see today.
Is it the same land mass you just mentioned here, could it be?
Maybe you are mentioning about " Kumari Kandam " lost continent. NASA also found some evidence of it. 🙏
You mean the one that is submerged in water now perhaps
@@deadbeat_genius_daydreamer yes ji, beyond poompuhar town, into the ocean.
@@SK-pq3ie well in that case I insist you to watch this small documentary
czcams.com/video/9I2hBer91Gw/video.html
The one we're discussing is somewhat related to these video and perhaps you'll be amazed, if not delighted, to get the gist of the matter related to the submerged place
@@deadbeat_genius_daydreamer sure sir, I will. Thank you for the suggestion.
looking forward....Its about time we unearth, present, and preserve our glorious factual past rather than refering to western malicious and prejudiced Indian history who ludricrously have insisting our sacred maha puranas as myths
Just want to add one thing. In Andhrapradesh Many islands in Godavari River are called as Lanka.
May be lanka was used to call an island.
Yes may be but lanka shold be on the 0 ,0 axises as per the discription
@@berdenmayur I am talking about the word lanka not ravanas lanka.
Ok
sir i think i have found the answer. it is mt kunjara which is that equator on which there is a big building for agastya. why a sage needs a big house?And also 10 times the height than width. It is probably an observatory. It could be todays adhu city in maldives or something submerged under the sea but on the equator for sure. The reason adhu it has old traditions which wikipedia says dates to 2000BC sun faring settlers from Gujrath
@@joogledaily4937 Just tweet it to Mr. Nilesh Oak
Great explaination, i am disagree with one point, that the vibhisana of ramayana is the same vibhisana of mahabharata bcoz he is one of the 7 immortals...and vibhisana is not a title...
Sir, keep it up ..
Hello all the researchers, just a lame suggestion:
can a parallel study of Iliad or odyssey help us.
Reason why- I heard in one of the Sattology talks that Ravana's controlled land stretched upto Europe and the plot of both poetries (Ramayana and Odyssey) have some commonalities. So might be that Homer might have added some hints to help us.
Is it Diego Garcia island occupied by Americans....??
For their naval base...
Very interesting information.
I am a Sri Lankan. I would like to know what Indian history says about Lord Buddha's time.
Thank you for sharing your exhausting work , I am still have a small point for clarification, it has been constantly told by my grandparents about danuskodi as the starting point for rama setu , which leads directly to present day Sri Lanka also in the book of Swami Desikan Hamsasandesa also propagated the well held assumptions about the present day Sri Lanka is Ravanas Lanka, sir can you through some light on this.
Your ancestors are not from tamilnadu they are from Andra immigrants. So your ancestors don't have real history.
@@velmurugankandasamy9656 how is your answer relevant to the above question ?
I also have same doubt. This is an important point to be clarified. Nilesh sir, kindly clarify
The entire point of this video was to elaborate on the idea of Sri Lanka not being Ravana's Lanka
Dr.Oak, I have avidly followed your talks on CZcams and commend you on your research. I have one question about the Ashwamedh yagya of Yudhishthir. Considering the meagre means of travel and the possible paucity of built roads, how did the four brothers travel as far as they did (particularly Bheema and Arjuna) and how long would it have taken for them to cover the areas shown in your slides?
Great work by Nilesh Sir and team! However, please help me understand (unless I missed the explanation) - Didn't Lord Rama build a Shivalinga in Rameshwaram which is to the south east of India before building the bridge? Why would Lord Rama go to South East all the way to build a bridge if it is not to Sri Lanka? OK assuming Ravana's Lanka is to the South West of India as propagated then which place did Lord Rama perform the Linga Pooja before building the bridge?
The place you go to in order to establish a Lingam and do a consecration depends not at all on conveniences and entirely on the will of the deity. The question you're asking is essentially obsolete when we appreciate our Dharma.
This person is gem of India
Were the tectonic plate movements with time taken into account?
Sir you guys doing Good job 👍
Jai Sri Ram
Nilesh ji I am thoroughly confident now that Indus script encodes sanskrit language . We don't have any evidence of Avestan language in Iran before 2000 BCE ( all are elamite inscriptions ). At around 600 BCE avestan language which is very very close to Sanskrit appeared in Behistun inscription. That means it could have arrived there by 2000 BCE .
Can u elaborate more on this ?
@@sarveshOG Avestan language is close to Vedic Sanskrit. It arrived in Iranian plateau at around 2000 BCE for sure based on religious texts composition of Zend Avesta. All the personalities in Zend Avesta could easily be dated beyond 2000 BCE. There are some common figures between Zend Avesta and Rig Veda. Please do google search.
I probably need to search for Works done during Ravana's rule, people within Lanka, i heard Ravana also wrote some texts like ayurveda etc.. that might give more information about Lanka
Respected Sir, as per your interpretation of location of Ravana's Lanka is around the same area of the Gravity hole in Indian Ocean
That's what I've been thinking too
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 for ur research
Thank you sir
By far the best study on dating ancient Indian History, itihasas Ramayan and Mahabharata timelines.
Are there any Kings from Lanka participated in Mahabharata Kurukshetra War
No.
Yes Mahbharat literally has a description of the island and its inhabitants. It mentions the Simhala fought on the side of the kaurvas. Read the Mahabharat.
there is a branch of Tambrabharani river flowing in Kanyakumari district (Marthandam) and Mahendra mountain and Portion of Sanjeevani mountain fell in Kanyakumari district
Dr Nilesh, have you noticed in Google earth map around Cochin Kerala there is a low lying island feature. Would this be of any interest from the perspective of Lanka of RAmAyan? Just curious. Other question was about Adithya Hridayam which is part of VAlimiki RAmAyan, sage Agasthya was present during the war between Ram and Ravan.Sage Agasthya's Ashram seem to be on the southern regions of western ghats. Are these two pieces of info of any use in the search of actual Lanka?
The age of Ramayana
I was wondering how was that the gomphotheres, 4 tasked elephants were guarding the palace of Ravana when Hanuman went there at that time. Ramayana was said to be around 4000 bce. But there were no gomphotheres at that time which went extinct. Gomphotheres existed 1.5 million to 2 million years ago. So what I feel is that Ramayana happaned about 1.5 million years ago. The whites' wrote histories are based on the Christians believe of creation of humans 4000 to 6000 years ago when Adam was created. And many Hindus also took this as a basis, And their beliefs contradict with modern science where human fossils are found to date 200k years. Modern man's movement itself from Africa took 70,000 years ago. I hope Hindu scientists, anthropologists and archaeologists do independent researches on this. The Abrahamic religions are lying the world. I wonder how learned people are still hoodwinked to this Adam and Eve theory.
True, i concur this Ramayan fits perfectly into yug time lines... 12000 BC is not the correct date.
This will be true. Humanity will turn out to be antique.
Your comment is nonsense. You went from white Christians history; 4000-6000 years ago>to white people history done by SCIENCE; 1.5 milli0o0n years ago. You cannot use both in the ame sentence and compare it to dr oaks nonsense.
Are there any verses that mention existence of Kumarikandam?
The etymology of the word Lanka is "island". So, when one says Ravana's Lanka, it means Ravana's island(s). Could be referring to the small islands SW of southern tip of India like Mulan, Maafushi, Malé etc
Valmiki's Ramayana also suggests that Lanka was among a 'series of island nations (The islands around Maldives) and sunken mountains (Maldives was a huge mountain before it sunk'.
what about the Rameshwaram where sir Rama performed shiva puja and started building setu?
Sir can we locate where neel architecture the bridge over sea that help sena march to lanka
Sir, can there be any link to 79 longitude!
How can I ask questions
Dear Dr. Niles N Oak,
As a scientist who adhered to "producing" physical results, I perfectly agree with your methodology and conclusions about chronology & geographic locations of Ayodhya, Kishkindha, and agree that if we follow Maharshi Valmiki, LANKA could not be the Sinhaldweep.
I would however still wonder about Kuber Shiv, & Ravan.
Also Mayavi-ness referred to again & again in our Granths . . . . . Could Lanka be a floating city at Equator ? ( 0,0 )
And, what could have happened in 2000-3000 years back ?
- R K Khardekar
Please pass on this to Mr. Oak if possible. Maybe continental drift has caused India and Srilanka to move away from the noted 0,0 reference point?
Akanaṉūṟu
Akanaṉūṟu, which is dated between 1st century BCE and 2nd century CE, has a reference to the Ramayana in poem 70. The poem places a triumphant Rama at Dhanushkodi, sitting under a Banyan tree, involved in some secret discussions, when the birds are chirping away.[11]
Dhanushkodi is the starting point of Ram Setu Bridge.
57:01 ... Nilesh ji, so could you please give length of all Yugas in chronological unit ie gregorian calendar years? Much appreciated 🙏
Please read sri Madbaghawatha..Ramayana was in the treta yuga which was 1296000 years ago..every yuga has a set number of years and it decreases by 432000 years after every yuga..Satya yuga has the highest no of years and kaliyuga has the least..
There is a bo tree and it is said to be the exact one that Sita sat under, when she was in Lanka
Excellent talk yet again. Small question. I drew a line from Kurukshetra to Ujjain and extended it further south. It does not create a straight vertical but it passes exactly through the islands today known as Maldives and Maldives also lie on the equator. Also fits into the description of Lanka being towards South West. Maldives, a possible option?
We must take into consideration the fact that Ujjain temple was actually destroyed and rebuilt... I remember reading it a while ago. It could be possible that the original exact point of the line is lost during destruction and relocation of temple
sir i think i have found the answer. it is mt kunjara which is that equator on which there is a big building for agastya. why a sage needs a big house?And also 10 times the hieght than width. It is probably an observatory. It could be todays adhu city in maldives or something submerged under the sea but on the equator for sure. The reason adhu it has old traditions which wikipedia says dates to 2000BC sun faring settlers from Gujrath
Can you please research about Jambu dweepa, Bharth kanda is called Jambu dweepa, so i am expecting a Pre Gondwana logic, so most possibly Ravana Lanka you are searching for could well be Africa or Medagascar, Move the Indian subcontinent out of Asian land or at least partally
Vibhishana is immortal being and he is still now ruling his Kingdom.
Only two questions.regarding location of srilanka.
1.what if Bharatkhanda tilted along with equator?? From 12500bc to present day.
2.dwaraka engulfed by sea,pushed aur seashore some kilometers.
Is it possible sinhala connected with srilanka by land, and disappeared because of tectonic movement or raising sea level?
We also know about the great deluge,the Manu Shraddhadeva ruled kingdom of Dravida. After the deluge on the top of the Malaya Mountains, the boat was rested. Malaya mountains is in South India.
It clearly proves, Lord Vishnu was known worshipped in South India. Not only that, Lord vishnu took his first avatar, the Matsya avatar in South. (Mentioning it here, coz, there's a belief, Siva is a local Dravidian God, while Vishnu is an Aryan specially with avatars of Rama, Krishna, Buddha)
South India is mentioned in Hindu scriptures from the Satya Yuga onwards.
Not only land archeology, but also maritime archeology, astrology, astronomy,climatology, genetics, carbon dating, etc is required, it's not possible with a single discipline of science,to locate the places mentioned in Hindu scriptures, to understand the timeline of the stories mentioned in Hindu scriptures, as they narrates events happened aeons ago.
Sir, Vibhishan is one of the Chiranjivis, So, its the same Vibhishan mentioned in Mahabharata that we have in Ramayan as well
I have a question. I saw a slide from Project Shivoham where they translated उदयो यो लड़्कायां.....
as when there is sunrise in Lanka... but they said that Lanka is another name for Ujjain. We can say they were partly correct because Lanka and Ujjain lie on the same longitude. But we know that Lanka is not another name for Ujjain. But is there any evidence that could clarify this point?
What about the evidences found in modern day Sri Lanka and also the Ramasetu.
This is from my best knowledge: Sri Ram went Lanka following the trail from Seetha while being kidnapped. Ravana took her from Maharashtra. Took a straight line path down which includes [sabarimala, chadayamangalam places i know] etc. **Then he took her to Srilanka. Why I believe this is because there are a lot of evidences for example Ram Seethu, Sigiria , Ravana Cave, Rock etc are there. There is no other land mass which can steal it's title. Rise and Drop of water level on ocean can be rapid too.There were ice age following it. It's not 100 % accurate.
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1. Is there any possibilities that Maldives could be First Lanka before Ravana acquire it from his brother kubera?
2. There's evidences that sahya mountains to be folded mountain. That means kerala is joined to main land. So there are possibilities of movements of Lanka.
But my belief is there was ocean between the Srilanka and India. When the government understood its historical importance they give it the original name.
I have a humble request. Your presentation is very strong, evident rich people will believe it true. What all things pointed out can be true. But don't point it until you find the correct one.
Don't point out until u have command over a subject or at least Sanskrit language🙏🙏
The Sri Lanka of today was called Singhal/Singhaldweep, this is confirmed because todays Sri Lanka is called Singhal in Mahabharat. Also 75% of the population of todays Sri Lanka is made up of a people group called SINHALESE. The name Sri Lanka and Lankadeepa were used much later. It was possibly a confusion in naming.
Hi. I have a few questions:
You mentioned there is a possibility of Ceylon and actual Lanka be different, and separated by several hundreds of kilometres…
Now how are we addressing these questions:
1. What about Palk Strait which is believed to be Ram Setu since long. If thats not Ram Setu, dont we have description of length of Ramsetu in Valmiki Ramayana, that can corroborate with the distance to Niruksha Lanka?
2. What about landmarks of historical references in Ceylon, like Ella and Nuwara Elliya, Ravana falls, dronagiri reference etc.
3. You mentioned Niruksha Lanka would be bigger, not a small landmass that could have been a subset of Maldives.. wont that make it more closer to Ceylon or actually attached to Ceylon itself. Only 0-0 long lattes passing through it like through Avanti in Indian landmass? Simhaldeepa, even if reference separate from Lanka, could be outskirts of the same landmass?
4. During Ramayan, astronomy suggests north america and europe under soft ice age due to their positioning on north pole vs actual artic today. Similarly, should not be the position of Niruksha Lanka could be different from what we are looking at from prime meridian perspective?
5. We have written text on Sugriva asking to go SW from stern ghats or Mahendra parvat, but Rameshwaram is on eastern side. How that can be linked? Would they have taken a detour only to establish a temple?
Sadness is not when most of the people don’t know the truth, that is a problem which can be solved. Sadness is when, who know the truth manipulate it or hide it. Deny, Convince or CONFUSE
So what, endure it and work towards truth. The very thought of Truth Prevails is enough reason for getting motivated.
Please take into account that the Magnetic North and South poles were probably reversed-around 10,000 yrs ago.