Same here. It's just not what it used to be - objectively. MCU ended at Endgame, even if I did like some of what they've done sense. Endgame was the perfect ending for me.
This movie probably would've been better, weirdly enough, as a Disney+ show. They might've actually been able to flesh out the ideas they were trying to do here. As it is, it kinda feels like they wrote the mid-credits scene first and then tried to write a movie that gets them there. Because it really is the only thing that actually happens.
What you are saying makes sense, however, we've seen enough Disney+ shows to know that even those tend to be just filler with barely any development made only to hype the next thing.
@@Kowkarot Loki is a great example of why that isn't entirely true. The crew who worked on Loki would've been able to turn The Marvels into a fantastic show if they were given the chance.
@@quanteellison2650 I only watched it in case anything important happened because I have no interest in this movie. But I still have hope for the MCU to improve so i stay up to date. I’m just too invested in the universe now to stop haha
The main villain Derpy (I don't remember her name, don't care to remember her, and refuse to look up her name) could've been good if she was written by a person. A bright eyed new Kree soldier who's first day in service is the day Capt. Marvel destabilizes her world. With her people on the verge of starvation, drought, suffocating, and eventually death via the destruction of their sun, she ends up taking charge to help her oeolle survive. 30 years later and she's now seen as the savior of the dying Kree race. She's tired, she's at the end of her rope trying to keep her people safe and provide for them, but most importantly she's scared that even with all she's done it won't be enough. Then she hears tales of a legendary relic that could save her people at the cost of possibly destroying the universe. Will she not attempt destroying the universe, or will the need of her people out way her morale judgment. That's what should been! Instead we got, as Jeremy rightfully dubbed, "Dollar Store Ronin".
If you don’t like the execution of the villain you are free to do so of course, but isn’t what you just wrote that the character should have been almost completely what the character was in the movie?
@@frostdragon7135I actually think it was. I also think this movie was for a younger audience than those of us who have been seing the MCU for the last 15 years. The main character (I would argue is Chamala) is 13 I think, that's their target audience, 13 and younger. With that in mind it's a good movie for kids. We have grown, we are not the target demographic anymore. Or at least, not in this particular movie.
Of course we like hearing you talk about it. My favorite part of most Marvel projects the last few years is the resulting CZcams videos of people mocking them.
@@benwasserman8223Spoiled? Because we expect well written, acted, directed and produced movies when spending our time and money? Are you Kevin Feige?
@@agentbrown5542 Because the majority of Phase 4/5 is still largely good and infintiely better than bad 90s/2000s superhero flicks. And either we've just forgotten how bad that landscape was, or like to pretend it was all underrated. Also I think Loki season 2 just proved the MCU has some well acted and produced content under its belt. ;)
I'm basically keeping up with MCU plotlines through spoiler reviews as nothing is grabbing me enough to spend money or time actually watching anything right now
Quality is definitely down, but if you haven’t seen Loki… It is so worth your time. Amazing show. Hard to believe the same studio can make a show like that and a movie like The Marvels(Not the worst movie I’ve ever seen, but after watching Loki season finale last night, it just doesn’t feel like the same universe)
@@stephenhernandez36Loki literally revived my hope and interest in the MCU. If the crucial stuff in the MCU has the quality of that second season, I'm onboard COMPLETELY
The "Marvel is responsible for the sun dying' thing is explained as "she destroyed their leader and left a massive power vacuum in its place, which led to a massive civil war, and that civil war is what used up all of their air/water/sun power".
It’s an marvel to see everyone roasting this movie by saying what an marvelous grand failure it is just like Netflix doing an animated series of the terminator and finding away to ruin it by making the series child friendly just like Rambo and RoboCop in the 80’s poor Stan Lee will be rolling in his grave after finding out that his legacy is being turned into a pathetic joke. The Beastie Boys: don’t tell me how to smile. Hardcore Fans: we’re smiling by seeing marvel becoming an intergalactic failure Me: buying classic 80’s Christmas movies and Arnold’s new book from Amazon happy days . And it’s great to see Oscar winning actor’s earning themselves an Razzie nomination for appearing in failures like this and seeing their careers tarnished it’s like nobody asked for an Frasier Revival series that’s also failing in ratings. It’s like next year’s ghostbusters movie is going to be about the dangers of climate change I’m calling it now even oswalt and Nanjiani is in it.
I like that Carol's second costume is a nod to her original Ms Marvel costume from the 70's, but I also thought the same about it looking really cheap. It's like they had the costume designers from the arrowverse working on this movie.
@@RoadWulf I get where you're coming from, but I personally didn't like Monica's costume. For as cheap as it looked, I still liked Carol's costume more. The minimalist approach grew on me, and again, I'm biased because I like her original costume from the 70's.
@@myfddreamthat’s an interesting take on it. More likely scenario is that we just appreciate the content creator. Regardless if the film was good or bad I would’ve watched this video. Regardless of Jeremy’s opinion, I still can make my own opinion on the movie too. Which, in this case, is a lack of an opinion, because I haven’t watched the movie. I just enjoy listening to the content because it’s delivered in a generally compact and enjoyable summation
I’m sick of modern tv and have been watching Frasier and Seinfeld. The thing that really stands out is how rich the dialog is! Today everything is on the nose “I’m angry at you because you said I’m fat!” rather than something with subtext, “I’m sorry I laughed at you when you said you were going to a protest to save the whales… it really is just self preservation isn’t it?”
Check out the tv show "the middle." It's mid 2000 but it has smart writing, realistic characters (if you know people like that), and consistency for props/throwaway comments throughout all seasons (which I've never seen before). Of course, like any good series, the first few episodes as the worse (cuz it only gets better).
I find it so bizarre that, after so many movies and tv shows teasing the idea of the multiverse and particularly the X-Men universe interacting, the one where it finally happens...is THIS one? The one that wasn't marketed as a multiverse movie in any way (up until that last trailer where they realized they werent selling people)? It really feels like the movie wasn't testing well so they decided to thrown in the X-men introduction on a whim just to sell tickets.
And then, even the way that they chose to reveal the X-Men existing in the MCU was confusing as well. We know that a little character by the name of Rogue has a long history with Captain Marvel and ultimately gets her powers from her. If they were so eager to introduce mutants into the MCU, why not have Rogue be the "villain?" That would have been awesome!
You know what the mcu needs? It needs a plan, strong writing and super heroes we know and love. Edit: alright fine maybe not know and live, but come on guys wouldn't you love to see another Spiderman movie or blade? I'm just saying I want a fking xmen movie! A good one please!
Right, it's so simple. It can continue to include diversity and female empowerment but not as a primary movie theme, and not related to inconsistent and negative portrayal of male characters. Just tell good stories, and don't skip character development.
i feel like they have the "end point" but the way there is kinda lost between so many shows and random movies, why aren't we having main heroes, u know shang chi 2, moon knight movie, blade, etc then an avengers movies about the skrulls with the avengers instead we have a shit ton of random movies
@@dark3rthanshadows if those movies all told good stories and built up interesting characters I guess it would be fine. Then if they are supposed to exist in the same movie universe they would just need to not contradict each other too much. You could have different types of magic, but Nick Fury in one show should be similar to the movie character. Power scaling shouldn't be too inconsistent, although it is in the comics, so fans should accept that.
Your first two are fine, the last one is a bonus. NGL I knew none of the Marvel roster, I just enjoyed the what little I watched because of their content.
@ 1:55 Thanks for bringing this up! I definitely posted a comment like this.. But we really do appreciate you goin' back and correcting yourself like this. It's very humble of you to admit you missed something. Most people, especially here on CZcams, would just pretend they knew the whole time. Your humility does not go unnoticed.
It should’ve been a Captain Marvel centric movie focusing on her dealing with the repercussions of her mistake on the Kree homeworld. We should’ve saw her do this at the beginning. Then it could’ve been about redemption and what it means to do the actual right thing vs doing what feels right because it serves you. Could’ve gone a more dramatic route. Kamala even could’ve still been an important secondary character as someone who is still idealistic and naive vs Captain Marvel’s battered and burned out state. More of a buddy cop movie. Then Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel could’ve learned to be better heroes as CM learns about sacrificing her anger and ego and lightening up and Ms. Marvel learns that it’s not all fun and games. Monica could’ve still been in it, but it should’ve spent more time with Carol and Kamala.
Or there should have been a second Captain Marvel movie before The Marbels because there's a movie in this movie that deserves exploring. But this is a desperate movie after the critical reception of Captain Marvel (and Brie Larson) received. It's tough. This is how fans and a movie studio can wreck what could have been a good thing. 🎉
Yeah. Come to think of it, just removing Monica's character from 90% of the film would have helped a ton. Not her or the actor's fault. They just didn't write a compelling story arc for her; she's just there to explain the techno mumbo jumbo and -- in theory -- add tension to Captain Marvel's character. But it stepped all over what was actually interesting about the movie-- the Ms marvel and cpt Marvel duo
I agree mostly with Jeremy. Can someone explain to me why Monica was so well versed with Fury and all this superhero stuff? Last time i saw her she was meeting scrolls in wandervison. What did i miss in between
She's been doing "superhero stuff" since she was a kid in Captain Marvel, and has been looking towards space for her entire life to follow her mom's dream. That's part of why she joined SWORD. When she was meeting "scrolls" at the end of "wanderision," they were recruiting her to join Nick Fury on the SABER space station. She had apparently been using those powers to make spacewalks and external repairs more easily (which we see her doing in her first scene in The Marvels). It might not be as glamorous, but she's still using superpowers and working with Nick Fury. So it's not unprecedented by any stretch
I look forward to MCU content because it means more HISHE, Honest Trailer, Jeremy Jahns, Pitch Meeting, Everything Great About, Mr Sunday Movies, YMS, Filmento, Full Fat Videos, The Closer Look, RedLetterMedia, ScreenCrush, Warp Zone, Blerdly, and EFAP videos
Kelsey Grammer never really had a problem with sitting in make-up if I recall correctly. He even went into full make-up for a small cameo for Days of Future Past. I have NO idea why they made Beast a CGI creature. His appearance in X-3 was perfect!
Marvel these days just CGI everything since its cheaper and faster than taking the time to apply practical effects. Its a shame because I believe practical effects are a dying art in modern blockbusters.
I think amongst all the reshoots, this was probably one of them so it's a rushed job. I'm guessing, the end of The Marvels with Ms Marvel and Kate, that was supposed to be the mid credit.
My favorite was the entire film banter of them trying to come up with a Superhero name for Rambo, only for them to never actually give her name. That was fun.
Great episode Jeremy…Honestly, watching your entertaining reviews on such movies is the only positive thing that comes out of Marvel making movies like this.
how do you know it's a bad movie if you're not actually watching it yourself. imagine lettinga stranger dictate to you what YOU like or will or won't enjoy lol. strange
I think Valkyrie’s appearance is less sitcom-y and more like the actual Marvel comic books-it’s a lived in universe. And summoning the Bifrost is easily explained; she’s the King of Asgard, so she is in charge if it just like how Odin would be. And I personally had a blast with the two side quests you hated *because* they were stupid. It’s not like Quantumania doing insanely stupid things but taking them seriously, this is the film knowing it’s stupid and having fun with it. And I thought it was clear that Kamala’s looking up to Cpt. Marvel so much is done as a parallel to what Carol and Monica’s relationship and I really liked the character work between the three, though is it cliché? Yes, but it was already set up in the first Cpt. Marvel and it just continued it, and well in my opinion. But yeah the plot makes absolutely no sense and the villain is dogshit, but with the light tone and silliness it maintains I think it gets away with it. I had fun, sue me.
"I had fun, sue me" is my entire reaction to this movie. The powers don't make sense? Maybe not, but they make for some really fun action sequences. The flerkittens are shoehorned? Maybe, but I can't imagine the kind of stick you must have sat on if you didn't enjoy watching that. I'm not going to defend the movie's cinematic value or anything, but there were definitely interesting choices (the splitscreens, off the top of my head). Overall I'm excited to give this a rewatch, and frankly confused why it's being received so overwhelmingly poorly.
I think it's definitely one of the fun lighter Marvel films. I'm not sure what folks want. If it's too dark, they won't go because it's too dark. If it's light fun, it needs to be more serious. I thought it mostly made sense in its universe and I had a good time.
I thought the beast cameo was kinda neat but I hope the x-men from the previous timeline don’t become the main x-men since I was really hoping for a reboot of the team so there’s be no previous baggage. My theory is the x-men from the previous timeline will just be cameos up until Secret Wars which will probably reboot at least part of the MCU so we can have a new X-Men team.
Please tell me I’m not the only one who cracks up anytime Jeremy calls the villain “Dollar Store Ronin” and posts that crazy screenshot over his shoulder 😂🤣
I knew this movie was going to flop, and whoever was the writer on this movie she is trash the villain was trash, didn’t do a good job. They should’ve never change the villain to a woman in the first place maybe if they added the three marvel men that are in the group in the comics maybe the movie would’ve came out better, but they don’t follow comics at all anymore
@@vegetajp7 you think that was the problem? 🤔...... Ragnarok is highly acclaimed, and the villain was Hela.... not exactly one of the most memorable MCU villains
Captain Marvel destroyed the A.I. (The Supreme Intelligence) which then caused a civil war for control between different factions since the whole society was basically lead by that A.I. for a millennial+.
I guess their sun also happened to crap out at the same too since that seemed unrelated to the civil war unless one of the Kree factions intentionally messed with their sun which I don't recall them saying so I'll just chuck that to unfortunate timing for their sun to give out like that.
@@deathsyth8888 so basically captain marvel has nothing to do with their sun if the civil war in their planet not causing the sun to dies, and the villain just blamed captain marvel for it !? yess it is so vague
In the defense of Beast, it was likely a cost cutting measure, since they likely just didn’t want to go through the trouble of creating the fur suit for what amounts to a few minutes of acting in a mid-credits scene, which would have been time consuming to do.
@manuelalbertoromero9528 do you know what that means? I just said a company with less resources took that time and effort to do it, so what exactly is Disney's defense? "We couldn't be bothered"? That's what your point stands for. That isn't a defense lol
Ronan actually plays straight man to the Guardian's goofiness, so it works in his favor that he's generic in that film. It also helps that he is an established villain in comics with material to adapt from. Dun Barr isn't a big Captain Marvel villain and is such a minor character in the comics that there is barely a Wikipedia article on character. Why wasn't one of Carol's Rogue Gallery used? Moonstone, Mystique, Super-Adaptoid... The list isn't big, but it is varied. Even M.O.D.O.K. would have been better choice since he's fought Ms. Marvel in the comics.
I would have loved to see Moonstone, a skilled manipulator in addition to a similar power-set. Mystique isn't in the MCU proper (yet) and Super-Adaptoid really works best when it has multiple people to mimic powers from so best saved for something with a large team.
@@HBHaga Moonstoone would have been the obvious pick for me in a film called 'The Marvels.' She's also used the Ms. Marvel name before turning to a villain and that could've given the title a triple meaning.
Heck, they literally show the Supreme Intelligence. Why wasn’t THAT the big bad, coming up with the plan to steal former Kree colonies’ vital resources to replenish Hala’s?
I definitely agree this movie had some flaws both glaring and not. Despite all that I still had a lot of fun! I was able to follow the plot well enough and see how it links into the greater MCU. I saw the movie via Regal Unlimited and I, personally, wouldn't mind seeing it again! As long as i dont have to pay full price for it. Overall a good movie that should've just been straight to Disney+
@@faichaimond definitely! I get where the hate is coming from, but I see this as a really small win bc the movie is fine for what it is. Definitely a movie where you can "leave your brain at home" as you said
@fanzon7660 no. I listen and watch people who review movies based on the quality of storytelling. Anyone with taste has explained how and why it's not a good movie. Just because you don't have good taste doesn't mean everyone else is a hate-monger. Grow up and learn that people can criticize a movie. If you were actually secure in your opinion mine wouldn't have mattered. Do you work for Disney or something?
I have no idea about how a sun dies in this masterpiece of a movie but in the real world the "dying" is just the fusion in a sun moving to heavier elements
Correct. And the results vary, stars "die" in many different ways. Some blow up. Some expand and then shrink- and then expand and shrink again. Sometimes it's cataclysmic, sometimes they just fade away. And I love Jahns, but he's incorrect about the eventual fate of our sun, as it evolves it will expand and actually become cooler. And then it will just cast off its out layers and all that will be left is a tiny white dwarf in the center of a planetary nebula. If anyone wants to see how our sun _will likely_ appear in 5 billion years, look up The Ring Neubla. My guess is Jahns was just confusing a red giant's increased volume and brightness with increased heat.
i fully enjoyed this movie...the singing planet scene wasnt that bad as yall made it to be....it showed how far carol has traveled and how many different worlds she been in..and i LOVED the action scenes the tag switching during fights gave me dragonball fighterz and mortal kombat 1 vibes!!!! this movie very underrated and people who hate this movie sounds like grouchy...cant wait for Marvel Xmen movies
mate i watched twice with frends wee had a blast. there were a people that didint watched miss marvel and first movie and they had blast, wanting to watch first movie ,vanda vision and miss marvel....
Sir, some people actually enjoy it. You don't speak for everyone based on your own taste. People go to a movie and spend their money because they want to see something. Whether they come out pleased or not. It has been this way since movies was created...but I'm sure you were just born this generation and don't have a clue and just a follower. This movie was very good.
For me I think Disney needs to chuck out their checklist and focus and comprehensive stories. It seems like their desperate to gather a new group together as quickly as humanly possible just so they can attempt to have endgame energy again and that’s obviously not the way to do it. Endgame was great because they took their time and told proper stories for thee characters they spent large amounts of time with. These characters feel like they’re being guided and rushed forward. Kind of like being on a tour of a building that’s about to close. Just my thoughts.
@@minhocho5487maybe, but the quality also needs to improve, no one likes to see a franchise if the newer episodes are worse than the ones that came before. In my case for example I'm no longer interested in going to see the new movies some even after they are on stream or even in the high seas, they killed them slowly.
I think a lot of us wanna hear trusted voices before seeing this film. I think most fans have little to no expectations for this film and wanna know if this will be a complete waste of our time. Thank you for your content, sir! Glad to see your success. Well earned.
Why hear trusted voices? Are you that incapable of free will that you need some CZcamsr telling you what to watch. Either watch it or don't watch anything about it. I never understand film fans who dive into deep spoilers and reviews claiming that they aren't gonna see the movie yet you continue to constantly look up stuff about it. Just watch it or dont
@@dortaciaparks827 I mean sure yeah but the people making the trailer will try and make it look as good so they have an incentive to hide flaws no ? Idk can we just agree the most mcu movies are trash these days
As far as what the MCU should do next, I always refer back to what Call of Duty Zombies did: collapse the multiverse into a single "legacy" dimension and start over with a single new universe. You can still reference the old timelines, but the new world can have entirely new stories and not need to worry about fitting into the continuity mess that came before it.
When they're witty about it, like Jahns, I like it a lot. When they're just nitpicking like philistine fanboys it can get really tedious. Jahns is one of the only people on CZcams I'll watch producing this kind of content. Witty people are rare.
MCU needs to plan their use of big bads better. The Kang variants vould have each been a villain in different films by name. Rama Tut should have faced the Eternals in a period set film. Scarlet Centurion in Quantumania. Immortus in the Marvels. Could have had Majors doing the voices while an actor wearing a full mask could have done the body acting.
Great combo moves in the fights though, Most teams maintain the individuality of it's members when they fight but here they really do flow into each other and act like a single unit which is a nice change of pace.
If this movie was told from the villain’s perspective, she actually be a hero. An alien came out nowhere and destroyed the system that was sustaining her home planet so she goes on a journey and finds a bangle that can bring resources back to her people. She establishes a peace treaty with the kreel until the same enemy returns with two other villainous women and tries to take her hammer and bangle away from her. One of three of them even has the other bangle to her set. This villain never has conversation with me about why my portals are so dangerous and just continues to attack me and kill our men. 🤔 This is my main problem with this movie.
I have some nitpicks with these arguments as a problem with the movie, even if they make sense in terms of perspective. Carol didn’t come out of nowhere, she attacked the Great Intelligence for masterminding an attempted extermination of the Skrulls. The Kree in the movie never acknowledge any responsibility for their own actions being what ruined their planet, even if Carol’s set that in motion. Even without factoring in that Dar Benn specifically targets worlds connected to Carol, she’s still leaving entire planets devastated to save hers. DB hadn’t yet established peace with that group of Kree, she was there for peace talks. The only deal she then offered was “relocate now to my world or die, because I’m about to ruin this one”. Kamala having the other bangle is neutral-it’s not some stolen artifact, Dar Benn found her half too. She does not stop to ask if her creation of new portals could be dangerous, and the Kree are generally more technologically advanced, so if human scientists could figure that out, they could to.
@@jacobd1984 Personally it shouldn't have been Dar Benn, but Gladiator from the Shi'ar Empire. Since they messed with normal canon they could have easily pulled Gladiator in due to the Kree needed help after Carol's actions due to being weak they had no choice but to go to the Shi'ar Empire for help. They should have kept this movie simpler than what it was since the story is messy
people want to hate a film so bad they make up issues that were explained in the film. The bad guy was bad...shocker even if they had their own intentions its how they go about achieving it. Thanos also wasnt bad fully but he was still bad...yet people love him. People lately just wanna hate marvel, though ill admit the movie wasn't good, they did explain things. A flawed hero isnt a bad hero in fact it makes captain marvel more likeable that she made an honest mistake and owns up that she feels pressured to be perfect. @@jacobd1984
She was attacking planets and taken resources from where captain marvel interacted or lived in instead of going into abandoned or not populated planets.That's how much she hates her and that is why she is a villain
The word that describes our interest is schadenfreude. Thank you, Germany; we had no word for our feelings about Marvel Phase 4 and the current state of Disney as a whole, but you came through in splendid fashion.
@BigPurpleCarrot Ah, yes. Sorry. I thought it was autocorrect "Thank You, _Jeremy_," as though Jeremy had taken the hit and watched and delivered the review, but I see what you actually said, now. Poor reading comprehension on my part. It was late!
I was more entertained by Jeremy's review than the movie itself. As a old school Carol fan, thrown of the golden gate Bridge, Avengers Annual#10.I don't blame the actors or writers no, I blame the producers & executives at Marvel for letting these projects out the door. I have read better 4 issue runs than 80% of Mcu content, Scoreses is correct on his opinion of Mcu. This is why they are diving in popularity now.
I genuinely feel like them using the xmen is the break the glass in case of emergency moment. I also feel like they established another earth for no reason. I genuinely think Monica should have ended back on earth 838 because they've established that world and seeing it again makes it feel like it matters.
As I climb up the ladder in my line of work I realize more and more that the people who were in charge before me were way out of their depth and the job should have gone to someone else. I'm guessing that's a common theme everywhere including the MCU. To me it seems like the people overseeing these projects haven't got a clue on how to run a cinematic universe. Somewhere in the chain of command there's someone who is just faking it until they make it. This essentially falls back on the person who did the hiring/appointing. Because if you tell me we don't have the budget for something I'm gonna leave it out. I'm not going to force it. I will try to get the budget raised if it's necessary but the MCU right now feels like a great idea that just went to shit because the money didn't stretch out far enough.
Man I would love to see an MCU film where we bait and switch have the superhero whack the evil AI out of existence in the first 20 minutes and the movie's actually about the horrible consequences of doing that.
That's literally what this movie is about. Carol Danvers destroys the Kree AI Supreme Intelligence that was running their society 30 years ago after the events of Captain Marvel to stop the Kree Skrull war the AI was telling the Kree to do. The Kree then destroyed the environment on their planet in a civil war that broke out in the power vacuum of the AI being gone, then the villain in this movie found a Quantum Band and was using it to steal resources from planets she knew had meaning to Carol Danvers (the air from the Skrull refugee planet that Carol helped them find, the water from the planet of Carol's prince husband, the sun from Carol's home Earth). Carol's redemption for destroying the AI and causing the civil war is that she restarted Halla's sun to save the Kree people after she stops the villain.
Marvel Studios whatever it is how about giving viewers quality stories where characters learn something that make them better people, characters who make choices that result in bad results and take accountability or get held accountable for their actions? Avengers brought back billions of people. How about showing Avengers working to help rebuild lives, rebuild the economy, rebuild businesses? Other than that if want some realism in the movies then characters who have to face consequences if they make a problem worse.
No Loki 2 review? I'm shocked XD That such a juicy series for all good reasons that returns hope into MCU. Loved your take on Marvels :D I'll be honest. I'm a sucker for cats. Even with tentackles. So I wouldn't have minded them. Like at all XD
The AI ran everything in Kree society and when it was destroyed it created a huge power vacuum that led to civil war. The Kree destroyed their world in the war (which you would have to infer from the history on the MCU Kree basically having one mode of warfare which is genecide. That probably should have been emphasized more). I know it wasn’t spelled out in the most linear way but I honestly have no idea why no one seems to be able to follow those plot threads. It’s pretty much all there.
When the movie first announced it would have Monica and Kamala I thought it would be more about having to come to terms with who idols actually are. If you remember Monica was a Carol fan girl too when she was young, but through the events of the MCU she seemed more jaded towards Carol. I thought we'd get an adventure of Monica kinda hating Carol, Kamala being a fan girling, and a Carol that's a jaded seasoned hero that has to relearn why she does this and what she actually means to others. A little disappointed that the concept was a throw away line.
Exactly. I just finished watching it and when they were on the space and captain marvel meets kamala properly right after Monica started to admonish Carol for not coming back. That should have been the character development and emotional beat. That's what they should have relied on as not just a superpower connection but emotional connection between them. They legit didn't need a villain. They could have made it so the plot is then trying to untangle and finding the bracelet is the only way. I feel like they were so close to getting it right and just missed it by generalizing the plot too much for the masses instead of writing a good movie. Its clear they just wanted to make an entertainment movie and a real, ground breaking movie. Which ironically...would have supported representation more than this forgettable movie...
@@cheetah219 Right on the money with this opinion. Although, I do feel like the villain could have been used in this connection as well. She blames Carol for the death of her world. All of this is happening because Carol was neglectful. Neglectful of her relationship with Monica and her mother, of her take down of the Kree homeworld, and to a degree of the Skrull refugees. So much that could have been unpacked and explored.
I liked the movie, I also like this channel, I don’t mind differing opinions I just don’t like when reviewers insult people who like things they don’t and vise versa. You tend to start away from that so I appreciate it.
If Monica had woke up and Wong was handing her a whisky, and said "it's over" and Bruce Campbell chimes in "boy, is it ever" that would have been a keeper.
At this point i don't think they need to cutback. I think they just need to stop all together for awhile and reboot, and figure out what kind of story they want to tell, because they clearly have no idea right now.
I think it comes down to the cinema artists. It appears Marvel has been handing the controls over to creators who are either total mediocrities or they simply don't give a damn. All of this begins and ends with the artists. Hopefully better filmmakers are on the horizon.
Filmmakers, writers should be to me mandatory that they are fans of the characters from the comics they write stories for, not just work on a film to pander to a minority or to get paid.
@@keithpace9870 That is beyond silly. Being a fan doesn’t guarantee that you will make a good movie about the thing you’re a fan of. The real issue with the MCU right now is the rushed production, overworked VFX artists and a stagnant formula that’s been forced to the point where directors have little to no creative control, so almost every new film ends up feeling the same. Ant-Man 3 didn’t suck cause fans weren’t writing it. Hell, that had an actual comic book writer on board; it still sucked. Dr Strange 2 had Sam fucking Raimi directing, but it was mid because he had so little creative control that the story was a mess. Don’t even get me started on Black Widow or most of the Disney+ shows. Only Guardians 3 and Black Panther 2 were any good because the directors had actual creative controls and writers who were good. THAT is what we need. Not people who are super fans or whatever. We need directors who can actually control how a movie is made, workers that get the time needed to work right and passionate writers and actors, regardless of them being fans or not.
@@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 That’s not the issue. Marvel Studio execs have more creative control over the movies than the directors or the writers. The directors are there to just be superficially in charge, but most of the work has been done in VFX and by committee before a director is even hired. The Marvel formula is what’s the problem. By your logic, Sam Raimi is a mediocre director cause his Marvel film sucked. That is obviously not true, but that’s what you’re implying.
The outfits made sense, when you think about it, still not good but they make sense. Monica is once again just wearing either the underclothes from some spacesuit, or hand me downs from Carol, and Kamala is wearing the outfit her mother made her, so Carol asks the Prince of the musical planet to give them new battle outfits, and he delivers them some theatre costumes inspired by their classic superhero costumes. So they were basically in alien made cosplay outfits for their comic characters.
They should probably just give some directors freedom to make their own proper superhero vision. I'm sure a _good_ superhero movie could still work, but they've locked themselves into an "extended universe" that was fubbernucked almost from the beginning.
I had a lot of fun with the film in large part because it is moving at a breakneck pace. There are definitely script issues which I'm guessing is in part to it being edited all to hell to get that pacing. The villain is a big issue. Dar Ban? Dar Van? Whatever her name is a solid idea. She is a villain with a righteous cause, much like Thanos. She is trying to save her world and doesn't care who she has to destroy in order to do it. I can almost get on board with that. But it takes too long to get there and I don't know that we ever get the emotion from her, the desperation from her, that we should. She is sacrificing herself for the survival of her race. She is a character that should be filled with equal parts hate and compassion. One of the things that I think would have helped is if they started with the destruction of the Supreme Intelligence. They hide the ball for half the film so we don't quite get the stakes. We can't feel Carol's guilt or understand Not Ronin's drive. Put that shit up front. Let us feel Carol's shame when Kamala is putting her on a pedestal.
I would have loved it if it was Reed Richards in a lab with her and him saying, "I should let Charles know about this". Giving us both the x-men and f4! lol
But imagine if that (or something to that effect) was the post-credit scene in Avengers: Endgame. Three years break and bam! We starte MCU phase 4 with F4 or X-Men
@@binaldoshi495Honestly, I think they shouldve made the Fantastic 4 the new main focus of the MCU after Endgame. With new Avengers existing but F4 being the main focus.
Long term watcher, Love your work Jeremy! I grew up loving the comics and then as an adult ive enjoyed the Marvel franchise expand but now... theres too many plot holes, too many bad decisions, too many shitty movies and bad CGI.... like why does the original Iron Man look better than half the new releases! Now we have Multiverses, Movies that have world changing effects but half the heroes are MIA, that skrull chick running around with all the power... somewhere.... Its just a mess at this stage. I miss the old days
Who else was more excited for Jeremy’s review than the actual movie?
mE ME!!!!
At this point every mcu product is more so about anticipating reaction than it is the products itself
His review is more entertaining than the movie
Um 😳
💯
This is the FIRST spoiler talk I’ve watched without seeing the movie first in the MCU. I think that speaks volumes
Ikr mcu has fallen
Same bruh. Mcu is dying
Same here. It's just not what it used to be - objectively. MCU ended at Endgame, even if I did like some of what they've done sense. Endgame was the perfect ending for me.
YESSSS!!!
I'm just gonna watch this and not even bother wasting money on the actual movie. lol
This movie probably would've been better, weirdly enough, as a Disney+ show. They might've actually been able to flesh out the ideas they were trying to do here. As it is, it kinda feels like they wrote the mid-credits scene first and then tried to write a movie that gets them there. Because it really is the only thing that actually happens.
What you are saying makes sense, however, we've seen enough Disney+ shows to know that even those tend to be just filler with barely any development made only to hype the next thing.
Here's a better idea. How about it never gets made at all?
@@Kowkarot Loki is a great example of why that isn't entirely true. The crew who worked on Loki would've been able to turn The Marvels into a fantastic show if they were given the chance.
Indeed
That’s the same thing I’ve been saying
"Stitch them together, give them lightning and you can say anything except 'it's alive'". I really like that.
This is the one and only spoiler review I’ve ever watched without first having seen the film.
Same
How was the review for you ?
@@quanteellison2650 I only watched it in case anything important happened because I have no interest in this movie. But I still have hope for the MCU to improve so i stay up to date. I’m just too invested in the universe now to stop haha
Movie is actually not bad, I have seen it today but thank god for 10$ this is good movie
@@dharmatejareddy. i agree. 10$ @ 3p totally worth it
You captured the 90s sitcom cameo energy perfectly. Well done!
Second this!
"Sorry it took me awhile to get here, all the cats were filled up"
A billion times more comedic value than all the failed comedy in the film.
The main villain Derpy (I don't remember her name, don't care to remember her, and refuse to look up her name) could've been good if she was written by a person.
A bright eyed new Kree soldier who's first day in service is the day Capt. Marvel destabilizes her world. With her people on the verge of starvation, drought, suffocating, and eventually death via the destruction of their sun, she ends up taking charge to help her oeolle survive. 30 years later and she's now seen as the savior of the dying Kree race. She's tired, she's at the end of her rope trying to keep her people safe and provide for them, but most importantly she's scared that even with all she's done it won't be enough. Then she hears tales of a legendary relic that could save her people at the cost of possibly destroying the universe. Will she not attempt destroying the universe, or will the need of her people out way her morale judgment.
That's what should been! Instead we got, as Jeremy rightfully dubbed, "Dollar Store Ronin".
VERY nice!
If you don’t like the execution of the villain you are free to do so of course, but isn’t what you just wrote that the character should have been almost completely what the character was in the movie?
@@frostdragon7135 Key word, "almost".
@@frostdragon7135I actually think it was. I also think this movie was for a younger audience than those of us who have been seing the MCU for the last 15 years. The main character (I would argue is Chamala) is 13 I think, that's their target audience, 13 and younger. With that in mind it's a good movie for kids. We have grown, we are not the target demographic anymore. Or at least, not in this particular movie.
Kamala is 16 or so@@nicomal
Of course we like hearing you talk about it. My favorite part of most Marvel projects the last few years is the resulting CZcams videos of people mocking them.
Really because that's my least favorite part. Really shows us fans are getting spoiled now.
Since when is criticizing something an act of being spoiled?
@@benwasserman8223Spoiled? Because we expect well written, acted, directed and produced movies when spending our time and money?
Are you Kevin Feige?
@@benwasserman8223get out of here marvel shill
@@agentbrown5542 Because the majority of Phase 4/5 is still largely good and infintiely better than bad 90s/2000s superhero flicks. And either we've just forgotten how bad that landscape was, or like to pretend it was all underrated.
Also I think Loki season 2 just proved the MCU has some well acted and produced content under its belt. ;)
I'm basically keeping up with MCU plotlines through spoiler reviews as nothing is grabbing me enough to spend money or time actually watching anything right now
Quality is definitely down, but if you haven’t seen Loki… It is so worth your time. Amazing show. Hard to believe the same studio can make a show like that and a movie like The Marvels(Not the worst movie I’ve ever seen, but after watching Loki season finale last night, it just doesn’t feel like the same universe)
WandaVision, No Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, Werewolf by Night, Wakanda Forever, Guardians 3, and Loki are good though.
Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is the only good one.
@@stephenhernandez36Loki literally revived my hope and interest in the MCU. If the crucial stuff in the MCU has the quality of that second season, I'm onboard COMPLETELY
The "Marvel is responsible for the sun dying' thing is explained as "she destroyed their leader and left a massive power vacuum in its place, which led to a massive civil war, and that civil war is what used up all of their air/water/sun power".
If unkilling a sun is as easy as a chick flying through it, the explanation of why it's dying should be equally trivial and incoherent
How does that make any sense at all. That a civil war basically took all the nutrients of an entire planet.
It’s an marvel to see everyone roasting this movie by saying what an marvelous grand failure it is just like Netflix doing an animated series of the terminator and finding away to ruin it by making the series child friendly just like Rambo and RoboCop in the 80’s poor Stan Lee will be rolling in his grave after finding out that his legacy is being turned into a pathetic joke.
The Beastie Boys: don’t tell me how to smile.
Hardcore Fans: we’re smiling by seeing marvel becoming an intergalactic failure
Me: buying classic 80’s Christmas movies and Arnold’s new book from Amazon happy days .
And it’s great to see Oscar winning actor’s earning themselves an Razzie nomination for appearing in failures like this and seeing their careers tarnished it’s like nobody asked for an Frasier Revival series that’s also failing in ratings.
It’s like next year’s ghostbusters movie is going to be about the dangers of climate change I’m
calling it now even oswalt and Nanjiani is in it.
Sounds f'ing stupid and lazy writing don't try to defend it
That's... that not how suns work. Like even a little. That the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
I like that Carol's second costume is a nod to her original Ms Marvel costume from the 70's, but I also thought the same about it looking really cheap. It's like they had the costume designers from the arrowverse working on this movie.
The only person who came out of that looking better was Monica. Both Carol and Kamala's previous outfits were eons better.
I think they gave her gloves because her veiny vegan hands were distracting
@@RoadWulf
I get where you're coming from, but I personally didn't like Monica's costume. For as cheap as it looked, I still liked Carol's costume more. The minimalist approach grew on me, and again, I'm biased because I like her original costume from the 70's.
I just want to say a big "Thank You" to Jeremy, for always taking one for the team.
Two in the pooper
@@JoeBoozerthe fudge?😂
lol@@Sour-ron
I always appreciate the "Welcome" from Jeremy when I watch the spoiler videos of movies I don't intend to watch.
because you appreciate haters..stop on that following train without having a mind of your own...
@@myfddreamYou know damn well that logic can be used the other way for people that blindly like marvel products without thinking 😂
@@myfddream There are some books whose covers you can judge
@@myfddreamthat’s an interesting take on it. More likely scenario is that we just appreciate the content creator. Regardless if the film was good or bad I would’ve watched this video. Regardless of Jeremy’s opinion, I still can make my own opinion on the movie too. Which, in this case, is a lack of an opinion, because I haven’t watched the movie. I just enjoy listening to the content because it’s delivered in a generally compact and enjoyable summation
Your 90s sitcom cameo entrance was hilarious 🤣
I’m sick of modern tv and have been watching Frasier and Seinfeld. The thing that really stands out is how rich the dialog is! Today everything is on the nose “I’m angry at you because you said I’m fat!” rather than something with subtext, “I’m sorry I laughed at you when you said you were going to a protest to save the whales… it really is just self preservation isn’t it?”
Yeah wow that’s so much better.. rich is the perfect worf
Check out the tv show "the middle." It's mid 2000 but it has smart writing, realistic characters (if you know people like that), and consistency for props/throwaway comments throughout all seasons (which I've never seen before).
Of course, like any good series, the first few episodes as the worse (cuz it only gets better).
I find it so bizarre that, after so many movies and tv shows teasing the idea of the multiverse and particularly the X-Men universe interacting, the one where it finally happens...is THIS one? The one that wasn't marketed as a multiverse movie in any way (up until that last trailer where they realized they werent selling people)? It really feels like the movie wasn't testing well so they decided to thrown in the X-men introduction on a whim just to sell tickets.
And then, even the way that they chose to reveal the X-Men existing in the MCU was confusing as well. We know that a little character by the name of Rogue has a long history with Captain Marvel and ultimately gets her powers from her. If they were so eager to introduce mutants into the MCU, why not have Rogue be the "villain?" That would have been awesome!
i mean we are in the multiverse saga, you gotta expect multi verse stuff to happen
It’s exactly what happened. Why else would they delay it for a year?
lol. Joke's on them! X-Men is my fave Marvel property, but I'll never watch them as long as they're part of the MCU! X'D
Rogue needs to fly!
You know what the mcu needs? It needs a plan, strong writing and super heroes we know and love.
Edit: alright fine maybe not know and live, but come on guys wouldn't you love to see another Spiderman movie or blade? I'm just saying I want a fking xmen movie! A good one please!
Right, it's so simple. It can continue to include diversity and female empowerment but not as a primary movie theme, and not related to inconsistent and negative portrayal of male characters. Just tell good stories, and don't skip character development.
i feel like they have the "end point" but the way there is kinda lost between so many shows and random movies, why aren't we having main heroes, u know shang chi 2, moon knight movie, blade, etc then an avengers movies about the skrulls with the avengers instead we have a shit ton of random movies
@@dark3rthanshadows if those movies all told good stories and built up interesting characters I guess it would be fine. Then if they are supposed to exist in the same movie universe they would just need to not contradict each other too much. You could have different types of magic, but Nick Fury in one show should be similar to the movie character. Power scaling shouldn't be too inconsistent, although it is in the comics, so fans should accept that.
It needs to end.
Your first two are fine, the last one is a bonus. NGL I knew none of the Marvel roster, I just enjoyed the what little I watched because of their content.
Thank you Jeremy 🙏. I had no intention of watching this movie, and I thank you so much for proving me right. 😊😊😊. I love all your reviews.
@ 1:55 Thanks for bringing this up! I definitely posted a comment like this.. But we really do appreciate you goin' back and correcting yourself like this. It's very humble of you to admit you missed something. Most people, especially here on CZcams, would just pretend they knew the whole time. Your humility does not go unnoticed.
It should’ve been a Captain Marvel centric movie focusing on her dealing with the repercussions of her mistake on the Kree homeworld. We should’ve saw her do this at the beginning. Then it could’ve been about redemption and what it means to do the actual right thing vs doing what feels right because it serves you. Could’ve gone a more dramatic route. Kamala even could’ve still been an important secondary character as someone who is still idealistic and naive vs Captain Marvel’s battered and burned out state. More of a buddy cop movie. Then Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel could’ve learned to be better heroes as CM learns about sacrificing her anger and ego and lightening up and Ms. Marvel learns that it’s not all fun and games. Monica could’ve still been in it, but it should’ve spent more time with Carol and Kamala.
No one likes Captain Marvel alone
I agree with everything you said. 100% and I understood it too.
Or there should have been a second Captain Marvel movie before The Marbels because there's a movie in this movie that deserves exploring. But this is a desperate movie after the critical reception of Captain Marvel (and Brie Larson) received. It's tough. This is how fans and a movie studio can wreck what could have been a good thing. 🎉
@sweeneagle16 I agree strongly with you, this another idea of a wonderful Captain Marvel movie we didn’t get.
Yeah. Come to think of it, just removing Monica's character from 90% of the film would have helped a ton. Not her or the actor's fault. They just didn't write a compelling story arc for her; she's just there to explain the techno mumbo jumbo and -- in theory -- add tension to Captain Marvel's character. But it stepped all over what was actually interesting about the movie-- the Ms marvel and cpt Marvel duo
The thing about "dollar store Ronan" is that Ronan was also pretty lame, and in retrospect is a "dollar store Thanos"
I mean at least he looked cool and was actually intimidating unlike dollar tree ronan here
So does that make her penny candy Thanos?
Or Discount Thanos?
Wish Thanos
Thinking back was a lame way for Guardians director to insert Star Lord trying to have a dance off to stall Ronin.
Thank you for your service bro.... Glad to see that you're still alive after that horrific experience.
I agree mostly with Jeremy. Can someone explain to me why Monica was so well versed with Fury and all this superhero stuff? Last time i saw her she was meeting scrolls in wandervison. What did i miss in between
She's been doing "superhero stuff" since she was a kid in Captain Marvel, and has been looking towards space for her entire life to follow her mom's dream. That's part of why she joined SWORD. When she was meeting "scrolls" at the end of "wanderision," they were recruiting her to join Nick Fury on the SABER space station. She had apparently been using those powers to make spacewalks and external repairs more easily (which we see her doing in her first scene in The Marvels). It might not be as glamorous, but she's still using superpowers and working with Nick Fury. So it's not unprecedented by any stretch
I look forward to MCU content because it means more HISHE, Honest Trailer, Jeremy Jahns, Pitch Meeting, Everything Great About, Mr Sunday Movies, YMS, Filmento, Full Fat Videos, The Closer Look, RedLetterMedia, ScreenCrush, Warp Zone, Blerdly, and EFAP videos
Eyyy a fellow follower of those channels! 😂
Can't wait for critical drinker too. He's gonna roast the hell out of this movie. 😂😂
And Critical Drinker.
Hail the toxic brood lmao. Jeremy needs to get on EFAP or maybe open bar
Yes lol
Kelsey Grammer never really had a problem with sitting in make-up if I recall correctly. He even went into full make-up for a small cameo for Days of Future Past. I have NO idea why they made Beast a CGI creature. His appearance in X-3 was perfect!
He also had the makeup for the cameo in Deadpool 2 IIRC 😮
Marvel these days just CGI everything since its cheaper and faster than taking the time to apply practical effects. Its a shame because I believe practical effects are a dying art in modern blockbusters.
@@claudiarey699That was Nicholas Hoult who plays younger Beast
@@blackopspro6455 True. My bad. Thanks for clarifying👍
I think amongst all the reshoots, this was probably one of them so it's a rushed job. I'm guessing, the end of The Marvels with Ms Marvel and Kate, that was supposed to be the mid credit.
My favorite was the entire film banter of them trying to come up with a Superhero name for Rambo, only for them to never actually give her name. That was fun.
Great episode Jeremy…Honestly, watching your entertaining reviews on such movies is the only positive thing that comes out of Marvel making movies like this.
Thank you Jeremy for watching and suffering - so we don’t have to. You’re the real hero!
Homelander, is that you?
He sacrificed himself so that we don't have to
how do you know it's a bad movie if you're not actually watching it yourself. imagine lettinga stranger dictate to you what YOU like or will or won't enjoy lol. strange
It was very funny and the fight scenes were very cool
The movie was actually really good. I respect Jeremy’s review. But he got it wrong for this one in my opinion
I'm glad Jeremy feels a bit better. After the spoiler free review, he was so done he didn't even punch us at the end.
OMG! True
I didn't realise it until you pointed it out
Yes!! That was enough to know how the movie was😂
I think Valkyrie’s appearance is less sitcom-y and more like the actual Marvel comic books-it’s a lived in universe. And summoning the Bifrost is easily explained; she’s the King of Asgard, so she is in charge if it just like how Odin would be.
And I personally had a blast with the two side quests you hated *because* they were stupid. It’s not like Quantumania doing insanely stupid things but taking them seriously, this is the film knowing it’s stupid and having fun with it.
And I thought it was clear that Kamala’s looking up to Cpt. Marvel so much is done as a parallel to what Carol and Monica’s relationship and I really liked the character work between the three, though is it cliché? Yes, but it was already set up in the first Cpt. Marvel and it just continued it, and well in my opinion.
But yeah the plot makes absolutely no sense and the villain is dogshit, but with the light tone and silliness it maintains I think it gets away with it. I had fun, sue me.
Me too, I had fun. Ms. Marvel was fun with her family too and this just added to it
"I had fun, sue me" is my entire reaction to this movie. The powers don't make sense? Maybe not, but they make for some really fun action sequences. The flerkittens are shoehorned? Maybe, but I can't imagine the kind of stick you must have sat on if you didn't enjoy watching that. I'm not going to defend the movie's cinematic value or anything, but there were definitely interesting choices (the splitscreens, off the top of my head). Overall I'm excited to give this a rewatch, and frankly confused why it's being received so overwhelmingly poorly.
@@comp.lex4 yeah I agree, I enjoyed it. Not a great film but had a good couple of laughs
I think it's definitely one of the fun lighter Marvel films. I'm not sure what folks want. If it's too dark, they won't go because it's too dark. If it's light fun, it needs to be more serious. I thought it mostly made sense in its universe and I had a good time.
@@andreamiller3578 It made sense for the most part but wasn't compelling. We haven't really got a reason to bond with Cap Marvel
I thought the beast cameo was kinda neat but I hope the x-men from the previous timeline don’t become the main x-men since I was really hoping for a reboot of the team so there’s be no previous baggage. My theory is the x-men from the previous timeline will just be cameos up until Secret Wars which will probably reboot at least part of the MCU so we can have a new X-Men team.
Please tell me I’m not the only one who cracks up anytime Jeremy calls the villain “Dollar Store Ronin” and posts that crazy screenshot over his shoulder 😂🤣
Ronin was dollar store Ronin in guardians of the Galaxy.
It's funny but it's not even true
*Ronan
Ronin is an alias of Hawkeye.
I knew this movie was going to flop, and whoever was the writer on this movie she is trash the villain was trash, didn’t do a good job. They should’ve never change the villain to a woman in the first place maybe if they added the three marvel men that are in the group in the comics maybe the movie would’ve came out better, but they don’t follow comics at all anymore
@@vegetajp7 you think that was the problem? 🤔...... Ragnarok is highly acclaimed, and the villain was Hela.... not exactly one of the most memorable MCU villains
The fact that this movie give us two Jeremy reviews is gold !!!
Yeah I didn’t watch the movie but I watched 2 Jeremy views about it 😂
new subscriber... you are perfect for this platform. Well spoken!
Lmao! Dude you're comedic delivery and timing has really grown over the years.
I was so confused about whether the AI destroyed their planet or the civil war because they were SO vague
Captain Marvel destroyed the A.I. (The Supreme Intelligence) which then caused a civil war for control between different factions since the whole society was basically lead by that A.I. for a millennial+.
@@deathsyth8888 fun fact, people became dumb and want exposition, and whe there is no explanation they vine ass they dont understand a thing .
I guess their sun also happened to crap out at the same too since that seemed unrelated to the civil war unless one of the Kree factions intentionally messed with their sun which I don't recall them saying so I'll just chuck that to unfortunate timing for their sun to give out like that.
Captain marvel failed to destroy the AI, the AI then write the script for this movie 💀💀
@@deathsyth8888 so basically captain marvel has nothing to do with their sun if the civil war in their planet not causing the sun to dies, and the villain just blamed captain marvel for it !? yess it is so vague
I think I speak for many when I say I'm skipping the movie but happy to hear people like you talk spoilers. 😅
You think you speak for an entire fandom? Que cute
@@chakenbaconHow did you get "entire fandom" from "speak for many"? 🤔
@@chakenbacon well....many of the fandom are not going to see that crap...
@@chakenbacon
Bro, I just clicked on your comment history for this channel.
You are the BIGGEST Marvel shill I’ve ever seen. Your words are invalid.
In the defense of Beast, it was likely a cost cutting measure, since they likely just didn’t want to go through the trouble of creating the fur suit for what amounts to a few minutes of acting in a mid-credits scene, which would have been time consuming to do.
I LOVE this point because hilariously, Fox has done it with less screentime, and this is DISNEY, they have no shortage of resources.
Well, I think it's probably a last minute change and the CG team have to beast from scratch in short amount of time.
How is it a defense to say that the biggest media company on earth was trying to cut corners for money?
@@zacharyjackson1829 My point still stands
@manuelalbertoromero9528 do you know what that means? I just said a company with less resources took that time and effort to do it, so what exactly is Disney's defense? "We couldn't be bothered"? That's what your point stands for. That isn't a defense lol
thanks for taking one for the team Jeremy!
Ronan actually plays straight man to the Guardian's goofiness, so it works in his favor that he's generic in that film. It also helps that he is an established villain in comics with material to adapt from.
Dun Barr isn't a big Captain Marvel villain and is such a minor character in the comics that there is barely a Wikipedia article on character. Why wasn't one of Carol's Rogue Gallery used? Moonstone, Mystique, Super-Adaptoid... The list isn't big, but it is varied. Even M.O.D.O.K. would have been better choice since he's fought Ms. Marvel in the comics.
Modok was turned into Trash in Ant Man Quantamania he was much better in the 2020 Avengers Game
I would have loved to see Moonstone, a skilled manipulator in addition to a similar power-set. Mystique isn't in the MCU proper (yet) and Super-Adaptoid really works best when it has multiple people to mimic powers from so best saved for something with a large team.
@@HBHaga Moonstoone would have been the obvious pick for me in a film called 'The Marvels.' She's also used the Ms. Marvel name before turning to a villain and that could've given the title a triple meaning.
Heck, they literally show the Supreme Intelligence. Why wasn’t THAT the big bad, coming up with the plan to steal former Kree colonies’ vital resources to replenish Hala’s?
Last movie: They defeat the AI
This movie: The movie is written by AI
Lol good one
One of the best videos in a while love u Jeremy, all ur vids are great but this is good
Not cause ur hating on marvels just cause its a good edit and funny
I definitely agree this movie had some flaws both glaring and not. Despite all that I still had a lot of fun! I was able to follow the plot well enough and see how it links into the greater MCU. I saw the movie via Regal Unlimited and I, personally, wouldn't mind seeing it again! As long as i dont have to pay full price for it. Overall a good movie that should've just been straight to Disney+
Yeah I thought it was like MCU's version of Fast & Furious. Just a fun movie where you can leave your brain at home while watching it.
@@faichaimond definitely! I get where the hate is coming from, but I see this as a really small win bc the movie is fine for what it is. Definitely a movie where you can "leave your brain at home" as you said
Thanks for informing us not to trust your taste.
@@TiberiusXand you listen to opinions from hate grifters lmao. I think that may be worse.
@fanzon7660 no. I listen and watch people who review movies based on the quality of storytelling. Anyone with taste has explained how and why it's not a good movie. Just because you don't have good taste doesn't mean everyone else is a hate-monger. Grow up and learn that people can criticize a movie. If you were actually secure in your opinion mine wouldn't have mattered.
Do you work for Disney or something?
I have no idea about how a sun dies in this masterpiece of a movie but in the real world the "dying" is just the fusion in a sun moving to heavier elements
masterpiece? what movie are you talking about
@@kiromi790 do you have a disability or smth? it was an obvious sarcasm
@@kiromi790Woosh
Correct. And the results vary, stars "die" in many different ways. Some blow up. Some expand and then shrink- and then expand and shrink again. Sometimes it's cataclysmic, sometimes they just fade away.
And I love Jahns, but he's incorrect about the eventual fate of our sun, as it evolves it will expand and actually become cooler. And then it will just cast off its out layers and all that will be left is a tiny white dwarf in the center of a planetary nebula.
If anyone wants to see how our sun _will likely_ appear in 5 billion years, look up The Ring Neubla.
My guess is Jahns was just confusing a red giant's increased volume and brightness with increased heat.
@@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 funny thing is the red stars are the coldest then blue stars are the hottest
“Fan girl hangs out with two boring ladies” is the most biting yet clean criticism
Never meet your heroes the movie
There were SO many plot holes and Ms. Marvel definitely made it watchable....smh
“ladies” is a stretch.
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I had this thought with your Ahsoka episode 4 review, but I think a discussion between you and MauLer would be an interesting thing to watch
i fully enjoyed this movie...the singing planet scene wasnt that bad as yall made it to be....it showed how far carol has traveled and how many different worlds she been in..and i LOVED the action scenes the tag switching during fights gave me dragonball fighterz and mortal kombat 1 vibes!!!! this movie very underrated and people who hate this movie sounds like grouchy...cant wait for Marvel Xmen movies
I don't understand how some people keep protecting these movies like they don't take hundreds of millions of dollars to make lmao
mate i watched twice with frends wee had a blast. there were a people that didint watched miss marvel and first movie and they had blast, wanting to watch first movie ,vanda vision and miss marvel....
@@simicbranislav4473 read your comment back and ask yourself, "what am I even saying" 😂
@@simicbranislav4473Yall are drunk or well drugged...
There is no single normal person who liked this garbage
Sir, some people actually enjoy it. You don't speak for everyone based on your own taste. People go to a movie and spend their money because they want to see something. Whether they come out pleased or not. It has been this way since movies was created...but I'm sure you were just born this generation and don't have a clue and just a follower. This movie was very good.
@@myfddreammany people are also extremely moronic. To enjoy this movie you would have to be about as simple as a 2 year old.
5:30 The way you stood there waiting for the audience to stop applauding brought back so many memories 😂
For me I think Disney needs to chuck out their checklist and focus and comprehensive stories. It seems like their desperate to gather a new group together as quickly as humanly possible just so they can attempt to have endgame energy again and that’s obviously not the way to do it. Endgame was great because they took their time and told proper stories for thee characters they spent large amounts of time with. These characters feel like they’re being guided and rushed forward. Kind of like being on a tour of a building that’s about to close. Just my thoughts.
I really love this kind of videos from you
This has to be one of THE best reviews you have ever done. Pure satirical entertainment.
We like hearing you talk about the Marvels for the same reason people like to stop and see a crash accident.
I still think any of the antman and the first captin marvel was worse but this comes in almost right after.
@@minhocho5487maybe, but the quality also needs to improve, no one likes to see a franchise if the newer episodes are worse than the ones that came before. In my case for example I'm no longer interested in going to see the new movies some even after they are on stream or even in the high seas, they killed them slowly.
You just know the pitch meeting for this movie is gonna be hilarious
hi, commenting from two weeks in the future. it's fine. not his best work
@@comp.lex4 lol you're not wrong
Thank you for your service
I think a lot of us wanna hear trusted voices before seeing this film. I think most fans have little to no expectations for this film and wanna know if this will be a complete waste of our time.
Thank you for your content, sir! Glad to see your success. Well earned.
Why hear trusted voices? Are you that incapable of free will that you need some CZcamsr telling you what to watch. Either watch it or don't watch anything about it. I never understand film fans who dive into deep spoilers and reviews claiming that they aren't gonna see the movie yet you continue to constantly look up stuff about it. Just watch it or dont
@@mania4270Free will? Only certain people have free will. 😅
@@mania4270 when you go buy a car do you just buy the first thing you see ? or do you research the model and features
@@skdeathxlifethat’s what trailers are for not ppl lmao
@@dortaciaparks827 I mean sure yeah but the people making the trailer will try and make it look as good so they have an incentive to hide flaws no ? Idk can we just agree the most mcu movies are trash these days
As far as what the MCU should do next, I always refer back to what Call of Duty Zombies did: collapse the multiverse into a single "legacy" dimension and start over with a single new universe. You can still reference the old timelines, but the new world can have entirely new stories and not need to worry about fitting into the continuity mess that came before it.
I feel like that's what they're planning to do for the next endgame but man its still so many years away
Here because streaming the movie online and couldn't make it through the singing scene. Thanks for making it bearable.
You watched it so I wouldn't have to lol. Thanks!!! Love all your vids!
That 90s sitcom reference floored me 😂
Same 😂
"All the cats were filled up"😂
People's reviews pointing out every dumb thing in the movie is 100% more entertaining then watching the movie
MauLer's EFAP is the best podcast for watching people discuss the stupidity of bad writing 👍
Like Cinema Sins? lol
villain sucks
@@heatherheardwhat1103 That efap is going to take like 12 hours and when his eventual video comes out it will be another 8 and it will all be glorious
When they're witty about it, like Jahns, I like it a lot.
When they're just nitpicking like philistine fanboys it can get really tedious. Jahns is one of the only people on CZcams I'll watch producing this kind of content.
Witty people are rare.
MCU needs to plan their use of big bads better. The Kang variants vould have each been a villain in different films by name. Rama Tut should have faced the Eternals in a period set film. Scarlet Centurion in Quantumania. Immortus in the Marvels. Could have had Majors doing the voices while an actor wearing a full mask could have done the body acting.
Great combo moves in the fights though, Most teams maintain the individuality of it's members when they fight but here they really do flow into each other and act like a single unit which is a nice change of pace.
I loved the fight scenes, some of the most fun I've had in a Marvel Studios theater in a while
If this movie was told from the villain’s perspective, she actually be a hero. An alien came out nowhere and destroyed the system that was sustaining her home planet so she goes on a journey and finds a bangle that can bring resources back to her people. She establishes a peace treaty with the kreel until the same enemy returns with two other villainous women and tries to take her hammer and bangle away from her. One of three of them even has the other bangle to her set. This villain never has conversation with me about why my portals are so dangerous and just continues to attack me and kill our men. 🤔 This is my main problem with this movie.
I have some nitpicks with these arguments as a problem with the movie, even if they make sense in terms of perspective. Carol didn’t come out of nowhere, she attacked the Great Intelligence for masterminding an attempted extermination of the Skrulls. The Kree in the movie never acknowledge any responsibility for their own actions being what ruined their planet, even if Carol’s set that in motion. Even without factoring in that Dar Benn specifically targets worlds connected to Carol, she’s still leaving entire planets devastated to save hers. DB hadn’t yet established peace with that group of Kree, she was there for peace talks. The only deal she then offered was “relocate now to my world or die, because I’m about to ruin this one”. Kamala having the other bangle is neutral-it’s not some stolen artifact, Dar Benn found her half too. She does not stop to ask if her creation of new portals could be dangerous, and the Kree are generally more technologically advanced, so if human scientists could figure that out, they could to.
@@jacobd1984 Personally it shouldn't have been Dar Benn, but Gladiator from the Shi'ar Empire. Since they messed with normal canon they could have easily pulled Gladiator in due to the Kree needed help after Carol's actions due to being weak they had no choice but to go to the Shi'ar Empire for help. They should have kept this movie simpler than what it was since the story is messy
people want to hate a film so bad they make up issues that were explained in the film. The bad guy was bad...shocker even if they had their own intentions its how they go about achieving it. Thanos also wasnt bad fully but he was still bad...yet people love him. People lately just wanna hate marvel, though ill admit the movie wasn't good, they did explain things. A flawed hero isnt a bad hero in fact it makes captain marvel more likeable that she made an honest mistake and owns up that she feels pressured to be perfect. @@jacobd1984
Cmon. We both know she was being petty ruining inhabited planets. It's even a point in the movie.
She was attacking planets and taken resources from where captain marvel interacted or lived in instead of going into abandoned or not populated planets.That's how much she hates her and that is why she is a villain
The word that describes our interest is schadenfreude. Thank you, Germany; we had no word for our feelings about Marvel Phase 4 and the current state of Disney as a whole, but you came through in splendid fashion.
Yes, thank Germany! 🇩🇪 🇩🇪 🇩🇪 😂
Autocorrect FTW 😂
@@garypoisson2733It's a German word..
@BigPurpleCarrot Ah, yes. Sorry. I thought it was autocorrect "Thank You, _Jeremy_," as though Jeremy had taken the hit and watched and delivered the review, but I see what you actually said, now. Poor reading comprehension on my part. It was late!
Gern geschehen!
I actually enjoyed the hell out of it. The cat vacuums was one of my favorite parts. I'm also a 48 year old man child so there's that too.
I was more entertained by Jeremy's review than the movie itself. As a old school Carol fan, thrown of the golden gate Bridge, Avengers Annual#10.I don't blame the actors or writers no, I blame the producers & executives at Marvel for letting these projects out the door. I have read better 4 issue runs than 80% of Mcu content, Scoreses is correct on his opinion of Mcu. This is why they are diving in popularity now.
Who else hasn't actually seen the movie but is still watching this review?
Lame asf
Me, only because I don't want to give money or time to Disney. Screw them 🖕
Go touch grass
@@chakenbacon but why comment this
I’m not interested enough to see the movie…. But I’ll watch Jeremy anytime! Now it’s a party🎉
I genuinely feel like them using the xmen is the break the glass in case of emergency moment. I also feel like they established another earth for no reason. I genuinely think Monica should have ended back on earth 838 because they've established that world and seeing it again makes it feel like it matters.
No desire to see this movie, but I now have to see that mid credit scene with Beast, even badly cgied one.
@@nadgamgee7767 just wait for the movie on disney plus. I'm not excited about the movie at all, but i wanna see the beast and binary so bad
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Do it on CZcams
@@nadgamgee7767it is still on youtube, saw it like 5 minutes ago, nothing special really
@@nadgamgee7767just say you wanna watch the movie but don’t want anyone too know cause you wanna look cool with the hate train
Love Kang in lomi season 2, how he has to make the hard choices. Give more of that please!
As I climb up the ladder in my line of work I realize more and more that the people who were in charge before me were way out of their depth and the job should have gone to someone else. I'm guessing that's a common theme everywhere including the MCU. To me it seems like the people overseeing these projects haven't got a clue on how to run a cinematic universe. Somewhere in the chain of command there's someone who is just faking it until they make it. This essentially falls back on the person who did the hiring/appointing. Because if you tell me we don't have the budget for something I'm gonna leave it out. I'm not going to force it. I will try to get the budget raised if it's necessary but the MCU right now feels like a great idea that just went to shit because the money didn't stretch out far enough.
Man I would love to see an MCU film where we bait and switch have the superhero whack the evil AI out of existence in the first 20 minutes and the movie's actually about the horrible consequences of doing that.
Sounds like most of infinitely war haha
That's literally what this movie is about. Carol Danvers destroys the Kree AI Supreme Intelligence that was running their society 30 years ago after the events of Captain Marvel to stop the Kree Skrull war the AI was telling the Kree to do. The Kree then destroyed the environment on their planet in a civil war that broke out in the power vacuum of the AI being gone, then the villain in this movie found a Quantum Band and was using it to steal resources from planets she knew had meaning to Carol Danvers (the air from the Skrull refugee planet that Carol helped them find, the water from the planet of Carol's prince husband, the sun from Carol's home Earth). Carol's redemption for destroying the AI and causing the civil war is that she restarted Halla's sun to save the Kree people after she stops the villain.
Marvel Studios whatever it is how about giving viewers quality stories where characters learn something that make them better people, characters who make choices that result in bad results and take accountability or get held accountable for their actions? Avengers brought back billions of people. How about showing Avengers working to help rebuild lives, rebuild the economy, rebuild businesses? Other than that if want some realism in the movies then characters who have to face consequences if they make a problem worse.
@@AlishaAnn94Are run-on sentences valuable on your homeworld?
@@GeeksmithingPunctuation and paragraphs are overrated.
This guy is my favorite movie reviewer, I don't watch any movie without his review. He is the goat. Lovely bloke.
Agreed, i thought he missed on the original review but he nailed this. Love his breakdowns
No Loki 2 review? I'm shocked XD That such a juicy series for all good reasons that returns hope into MCU. Loved your take on Marvels :D I'll be honest. I'm a sucker for cats. Even with tentackles. So I wouldn't have minded them. Like at all XD
The AI ran everything in Kree society and when it was destroyed it created a huge power vacuum that led to civil war. The Kree destroyed their world in the war (which you would have to infer from the history on the MCU Kree basically having one mode of warfare which is genecide. That probably should have been emphasized more). I know it wasn’t spelled out in the most linear way but I honestly have no idea why no one seems to be able to follow those plot threads. It’s pretty much all there.
Dar Bahn literally said in her dialogue "The civil war fucked up my planet so I'm glad we can sign this peace treaty."
I’m not watching this movie, just like I won’t touch Love and Thunder. So I’ll gladly watch this.
When the movie first announced it would have Monica and Kamala I thought it would be more about having to come to terms with who idols actually are. If you remember Monica was a Carol fan girl too when she was young, but through the events of the MCU she seemed more jaded towards Carol. I thought we'd get an adventure of Monica kinda hating Carol, Kamala being a fan girling, and a Carol that's a jaded seasoned hero that has to relearn why she does this and what she actually means to others. A little disappointed that the concept was a throw away line.
Exactly. I just finished watching it and when they were on the space and captain marvel meets kamala properly right after Monica started to admonish Carol for not coming back. That should have been the character development and emotional beat. That's what they should have relied on as not just a superpower connection but emotional connection between them. They legit didn't need a villain.
They could have made it so the plot is then trying to untangle and finding the bracelet is the only way. I feel like they were so close to getting it right and just missed it by generalizing the plot too much for the masses instead of writing a good movie.
Its clear they just wanted to make an entertainment movie and a real, ground breaking movie. Which ironically...would have supported representation more than this forgettable movie...
@@cheetah219 Right on the money with this opinion. Although, I do feel like the villain could have been used in this connection as well. She blames Carol for the death of her world. All of this is happening because Carol was neglectful. Neglectful of her relationship with Monica and her mother, of her take down of the Kree homeworld, and to a degree of the Skrull refugees. So much that could have been unpacked and explored.
Jeremy’s point about the sitcom cameos was the most accurate version of the MCU that I never thought of
One thing that is consistent in all these reviews is everyone keeps forgetting the villain DarBenn and rightfully so.
I liked the movie, I also like this channel, I don’t mind differing opinions I just don’t like when reviewers insult people who like things they don’t and vise versa. You tend to start away from that so I appreciate it.
That Valkyrie sitcom analogy. 😂💀
If Monica had woke up and Wong was handing her a whisky, and said "it's over" and Bruce Campbell chimes in "boy, is it ever" that would have been a keeper.
That 90’s sitcom comedy bit was hilarious
Lmaoooo that part where you talk about the cameo in a show and the crowd start cheering 😂
At this point i don't think they need to cutback. I think they just need to stop all together for awhile and reboot, and figure out what kind of story they want to tell, because they clearly have no idea right now.
The biggest issues is the writers suck balls.
I think it comes down to the cinema artists. It appears Marvel has been handing the controls over to creators who are either total mediocrities or they simply don't give a damn.
All of this begins and ends with the artists.
Hopefully better filmmakers are on the horizon.
Filmmakers, writers should be to me mandatory that they are fans of the characters from the comics they write stories for, not just work on a film to pander to a minority or to get paid.
@@keithpace9870 That is beyond silly. Being a fan doesn’t guarantee that you will make a good movie about the thing you’re a fan of. The real issue with the MCU right now is the rushed production, overworked VFX artists and a stagnant formula that’s been forced to the point where directors have little to no creative control, so almost every new film ends up feeling the same. Ant-Man 3 didn’t suck cause fans weren’t writing it. Hell, that had an actual comic book writer on board; it still sucked. Dr Strange 2 had Sam fucking Raimi directing, but it was mid because he had so little creative control that the story was a mess. Don’t even get me started on Black Widow or most of the Disney+ shows. Only Guardians 3 and Black Panther 2 were any good because the directors had actual creative controls and writers who were good. THAT is what we need. Not people who are super fans or whatever. We need directors who can actually control how a movie is made, workers that get the time needed to work right and passionate writers and actors, regardless of them being fans or not.
@@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 That’s not the issue. Marvel Studio execs have more creative control over the movies than the directors or the writers. The directors are there to just be superficially in charge, but most of the work has been done in VFX and by committee before a director is even hired. The Marvel formula is what’s the problem. By your logic, Sam Raimi is a mediocre director cause his Marvel film sucked. That is obviously not true, but that’s what you’re implying.
The highlight of this movie was the post credit scene. I literally jumped up from my chair, it was great.
Shill
The outfits made sense, when you think about it, still not good but they make sense. Monica is once again just wearing either the underclothes from some spacesuit, or hand me downs from Carol, and Kamala is wearing the outfit her mother made her, so Carol asks the Prince of the musical planet to give them new battle outfits, and he delivers them some theatre costumes inspired by their classic superhero costumes. So they were basically in alien made cosplay outfits for their comic characters.
They should probably just give some directors freedom to make their own proper superhero vision. I'm sure a _good_ superhero movie could still work, but they've locked themselves into an "extended universe" that was fubbernucked almost from the beginning.
What the MCU needs is to make good movies again - nothing more, nothing less
Here's the thing: _They thought they did_
@@commandercaptain4664 I feel like, they thought they made a movie that would make a lot of money
Brie Larson is pretty much a turd that won’t seem to flush. Yeesh
They don't have the good writers or directors to do that now. Most of them went away.
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, Spider-Man No Way Home and Black Panther: Wakanda Forever say hello!
😂😂😂
The Ivan Ooze joke got me!
I had a lot of fun with the film in large part because it is moving at a breakneck pace. There are definitely script issues which I'm guessing is in part to it being edited all to hell to get that pacing. The villain is a big issue. Dar Ban? Dar Van? Whatever her name is a solid idea. She is a villain with a righteous cause, much like Thanos. She is trying to save her world and doesn't care who she has to destroy in order to do it. I can almost get on board with that. But it takes too long to get there and I don't know that we ever get the emotion from her, the desperation from her, that we should. She is sacrificing herself for the survival of her race. She is a character that should be filled with equal parts hate and compassion.
One of the things that I think would have helped is if they started with the destruction of the Supreme Intelligence. They hide the ball for half the film so we don't quite get the stakes. We can't feel Carol's guilt or understand Not Ronin's drive. Put that shit up front. Let us feel Carol's shame when Kamala is putting her on a pedestal.
I would have loved it if it was Reed Richards in a lab with her and him saying, "I should let Charles know about this". Giving us both the x-men and f4! lol
But imagine if that (or something to that effect) was the post-credit scene in Avengers: Endgame. Three years break and bam! We starte MCU phase 4 with F4 or X-Men
@@binaldoshi495Honestly, I think they shouldve made the Fantastic 4 the new main focus of the MCU after Endgame. With new Avengers existing but F4 being the main focus.
That would have beem horrible to waste Reed on this crap movie
Can you imagine diluting the rollout of mutants and the X-men so much that there’s absolutely no excitement for them? Unreal!😂
Yes to the Ivan Ooze Reference!!!! 😂😂😂
hey Jeremy! big fan. maybe cover Loki s2 soon, I think it's a shift for the mcc that I'd love to hear your thoughts on.
Jeremy making more entertaining Contant than any Disney production these days
You should obviously haven’t seen the Loki season 2 finale
Ooo so edgy
Personally I loved "Ahsoka". I thought it was brilliant.
Long term watcher, Love your work Jeremy!
I grew up loving the comics and then as an adult ive enjoyed the Marvel franchise expand but now... theres too many plot holes, too many bad decisions, too many shitty movies and bad CGI.... like why does the original Iron Man look better than half the new releases!
Now we have Multiverses, Movies that have world changing effects but half the heroes are MIA, that skrull chick running around with all the power... somewhere.... Its just a mess at this stage. I miss the old days
.....I just Love hearing you talk!!😂 ..❤❤❤❤❤...
@11:58 ...."I don't know what that is" ........ I'm dead😂😂😂