Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania - SPOILER Talk

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  • Quantumania is out, so you might have seen it. This is my SPOILER TALK, talking about the Spoiler-Ish things in ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA, so be warned!
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  • @RtsFps1
    @RtsFps1 Před rokem +1561

    Kang The Conqueror killing presumably dozens if not thousands of Avengers but gets ravaged by a stampede of ants that he can see coming is wild to me.

    • @backroomsbot
      @backroomsbot Před rokem +33

      Kang gets bullied in the cartoons and comics, do you not know where these stories come from?

    • @knightcrawler1999
      @knightcrawler1999 Před rokem

      @@backroomsbot get this bullshit reply outta here. You’re telling me that Kang took down the Avengers yet gets defeated by ants, and your excuse is that he’s bullied in the comics? Why tf do all this marvel fanboys use comics as an excuse to justify bad writing and shit logic.

    • @oldschool657
      @oldschool657 Před rokem

      @@backroomsbot Not a defence for the movie especially since they want Kang to be the big bad. Thanos lost in comic books and is a cuck to Deadpool, doesn't mean that he should have gotten his shit kicked in before Infinity War

    • @TheMartinbomber
      @TheMartinbomber Před rokem +282

      @@backroomsbot comic accurate does not automatically = good movie

    • @TheSILENTBOB180
      @TheSILENTBOB180 Před rokem +28

      Doesn't matter how powerful you are if the enemy throw enough at you, just ask the Germans on the russian front.

  • @akmonra
    @akmonra Před rokem +3260

    If you make Kang the main antagonist in an Ant-Man movie, he has to win, or else he'll stop being viewed as a threat. Imagine if Thanos was defeated by ants before Infinity War.

    • @Christopher-ms5ke
      @Christopher-ms5ke Před rokem +332

      Bang on the money. Thought they would lose for sure.

    • @philldog117
      @philldog117 Před rokem +364

      I agree. Thats what put me off the film big kang he has killed many avengers gets clapped by ant man.....

    • @jayelsteven2390
      @jayelsteven2390 Před rokem +79

      I guess the man thing is there are multiple variations. Just like there were versions of Thanos that lost. But this storyline kinda requires people to jump onto that concept, but that’s easier said than done.

    • @samgao3498
      @samgao3498 Před rokem +152

      Or if Doctor Doom's first entrance in a movie ends up being defeated by squirrels.

    • @JesusFlores-rw8ry
      @JesusFlores-rw8ry Před rokem +43

      It’s a variant I’ll wait for Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars

  • @equos5060
    @equos5060 Před rokem +206

    I liked when Kand disintegrated everyone with his blue beam but he only pushed aside all known characters. Very thoughtful of him.

    • @CalebFrezza
      @CalebFrezza Před rokem +6

      That whole sequence was to eliminate like half the npc characters 😅

  • @timothybrown5999
    @timothybrown5999 Před rokem +490

    All of Kang’s actions toward the end were so odd. He starts vaporizing his attackers left and right, then he sees Scott, Cassie and Hope, the people he most wants to kill, and he suddenly just wants to fist fight them?! The scene would have carried more weight if they had to avoid those disintegration beams or if someone actually had to sacrifice themself to stop him. Just boiled down to typical movie villain tropes.

    • @blb50
      @blb50 Před rokem +3

      Good point but it's like knowing you can win and are bullet proof you want to like Thanos just having fun

    • @devilhunterred
      @devilhunterred Před rokem +23

      @@blb50 Kang wasn't even that good at physical combat against Antman.........

    • @ARottenMuffin
      @ARottenMuffin Před rokem +8

      He didn't hit them with the channeled lasers, only the iron man burst version that was apparently on shoot to knockback not kill or something? Why did they not die on contact immediately? I don't know some unexplained bullshit with pim particles makes them immune to it's effects? Also how Kang couldn't create his own version of pim particles in the 30 years he was down there despite his knowledge and vastly advanced tech, I don't know. But like he said their daughter made a satellite capable of warping them to the quantum realm that was the size of a microwave. Oh why did Antman bring his daughter that he specifically came to save from Kangs captivity, right back with him into their supervillain fight when she's completely inexperienced and he loves her so much? Oh Kang also forgot he could freeze people in place in that fight too lol.

    • @timothybrown5999
      @timothybrown5999 Před rokem +13

      @@ARottenMuffin like I said, major big bad is just vaporizing people, but did not use the same weapon on Scott and company. Like he set his phaser on stun against his only real threats. Per usual, movies just want to show the villain’s strength, but don’t want them to be logical.

    • @UltimateQball
      @UltimateQball Před rokem

      @@timothybrown5999 If that's your criticism, then you can criticize any movie with your logic lol.

  • @TheSoulGage
    @TheSoulGage Před rokem +1195

    If Puss in Boots can tell a compelling story with mature themes (in a medium that's looked down by mainstream media), the MCU has no excuse after building this up as a high stakes movie.

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +46

      Well said.

    • @mijanhoque1740
      @mijanhoque1740 Před rokem +90

      Facts, Puss in boots 2 was amazing and I had no expectations of it at all and it turned out fantastic.

    • @jassstraps6654
      @jassstraps6654 Před rokem +51

      Pick. it. UP

    • @isaim6637
      @isaim6637 Před rokem

      @@jassstraps6654 ok

    • @EclipseMints08
      @EclipseMints08 Před rokem +19

      @@mijanhoque1740 Well, that's the thing. When you don't have any expectations, the movie will be fun to watch because you're not expecting anything outside of consuming content. People nowadays will always compare the first three phases of MCU to anything that MCU comes out. The current movies will fall short because "it's not like how it was before" even though the quality of the movies are the same with some bad apples.

  • @Robby_Rob
    @Robby_Rob Před rokem +2624

    I agree, his story arc should have been wrapped up with him dying for his family, and then it would have made Kang all the more terrifying knowing there are real stakes when you go up against him.

    • @dranillaasrapti9333
      @dranillaasrapti9333 Před rokem +228

      This!
      I love the movie, but I will admit, with Scott dying wouldve up the stakes, or atleast let Hope and Scott got trapped in the QR, but no.... Since its a happy movie, they get to escape and live their lives happily
      Its just the trailers set Antman 3 to have highstakes but no.... Its another fairytale ending 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Robby_Rob
      @Robby_Rob Před rokem +137

      @@dranillaasrapti9333 right! And Paul Rudd is a lovable character which would have made it a real gut punch. But Marvel 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Jjsjsjs18384
      @Jjsjsjs18384 Před rokem +74

      There were no character arcs in this movie at all.

    • @powerhouse884
      @powerhouse884 Před rokem +98

      Don’t worry, Kill-Monger will fight him in CREED III.

    • @bromodragone8405
      @bromodragone8405 Před rokem +3

      @@dranillaasrapti9333 We don't need stakes. This is the Modern MCU.

  • @jackisgreatness5846
    @jackisgreatness5846 Před rokem +683

    Can we just take a minute to appreciate Jeremy’s Owen Wilson voice! Legit loved it

  • @malithewavegod2219
    @malithewavegod2219 Před rokem +273

    I was also hoping that Kang would kill Scott. That would’ve left such a lasting impression of the power and ruthlessness of Kang, but I guess the whole ant joke payoff was the bigger priority.

    • @olofacosta3192
      @olofacosta3192 Před rokem +34

      Kang should be minimum a team buster. This guy should be able to solo any avenger including Thor, captain marvel, strange and Scarlet Witch. The guy literally spends his time traveling the multiverse killing people. To have lose to ant man is just undermining him and his effect as an antagonist

    • @GalinaEv
      @GalinaEv Před rokem

      Yes kill scott! That would made him the real danger. Plus they already have lik 5 antmen, whole antfamily

    • @youtubeaccountserio2633
      @youtubeaccountserio2633 Před rokem +1

      Chill guys, only the exiled kang lost to ant man not the strongest kang variant

    • @durham_mahrud
      @durham_mahrud Před rokem +4

      @@youtubeaccountserio2633 oh ffs lol is this what marvel has come to?

  • @danwhite9184
    @danwhite9184 Před rokem +3948

    Kevin Feige really needs to rethink hiring all these Rick and Morty writers. Giving them the keys to the kingdom of the Multiverse Saga seems genuinely insane to me.

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před rokem +328

      And now he's writing The Kang Dynasty which seems to be a red flag

    • @shanetaylor761
      @shanetaylor761 Před rokem +201

      I definitely agree. I hate when they pick people who's resume has proven not to be at ideal marvel standards. I think marvel has a thing with hiring less proven directors and writers to save money but I can't imagine they really save all that much more compared to what casting and cg already cost.

    • @chill_dyl497
      @chill_dyl497 Před rokem +229

      I think Feige saw what they were doing with Rick and Multiverses with the Citadel of Ricks and wanted to somewhat copy and paste that idea for Kang

    • @Red-zh7vq
      @Red-zh7vq Před rokem +88

      Michael Waldron continues to fail upwards. Never seeing anything he writes.

    • @g.a.2997
      @g.a.2997 Před rokem +131

      Yeah, Rick and Morty hasn't been funny or moving since season 2. Now, it's just incest 'jokes' and edge-lords being real-life ricks.

  • @shawnvaljean9260
    @shawnvaljean9260 Před rokem +262

    I think that the point you made about college kids and teens making Ironman armor and quantum tech has always been my problem with Marvel as a whole. EVERYONE is a super genius. It gets really old, really fast.

    • @DarkCode
      @DarkCode Před rokem +9

      Good point most people are pretty dumb even the so called smart ones. I knew his Iranian guy who was vey smart he made a cloaking device for a military device (not sure if it ever worked but the design was vey complex) but then he couldn’t figure out how to tie a knot to hold the trunk of his car shut because it had broken. I’m not kidding.

    • @alannava5107
      @alannava5107 Před rokem +2

      WE NEED QUALITY OVER QUANTITY BACK!
      That's why the mcu had a good thing going back then
      Also,have writers check out the source material

    • @c.a.t4607
      @c.a.t4607 Před rokem +2

      Everyone gets to make their own iron man style armor, will they all come together and form Voltron but it's the MCU so you'll get multiple Voltron's forming ultra mega quantum avengers Voltron..

    • @alannava5107
      @alannava5107 Před rokem

      @@c.a.t4607 well yeah, as long as they write the characters to make them interesting and not boring
      Then I won't mind

    • @highwindknight
      @highwindknight Před rokem +9

      To paraphrase a different movie. When everyone is special, no one is.

  • @pirategurl08
    @pirategurl08 Před rokem +117

    I feel like even if Scott didn't die (which I totally expected from the trailer), He and Hope just being able to escape the Quantum Realm thanks to the device felt like a cop out. They could have kept them there to add to the drama if they didn't want to kill Scott

  • @aiwaloki
    @aiwaloki Před rokem +49

    I am still lost how Kang couldn't unshrink or retrieve the device himself for someone as powerful and smart as he is.

  • @LotanLevant
    @LotanLevant Před rokem +723

    I was actually looking forward to a heroic death for either Scott or Hank. I think it would have really set Phase 5 in motion if one did die.

    • @psychicmouse1051
      @psychicmouse1051 Před rokem +1

      Yeah I agree, Hank should’ve heroically died. It would’ve been like Yondu’s death from GotG 2.

    • @andrewcabral963
      @andrewcabral963 Před rokem +14

      Man I'm sick of that we've already lost so many heroes already Tony, Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Thor we should be happy that we still have Scott and Hank.

    • @tomdevinney7280
      @tomdevinney7280 Před rokem +58

      @@andrewcabral963 Hawkeye n Thor aren’t dead n could still very much show up in the future

    • @andrewcabral963
      @andrewcabral963 Před rokem

      @@tomdevinney7280 Hawkeye's retired and Thor has become a fucking joke and basically has turned into Mando.

    • @yoink9148
      @yoink9148 Před rokem +11

      @@tomdevinney7280 last time I heard of hawkeye, he got plowed and might not be able to walk.

  • @Blackhawks19_xx
    @Blackhawks19_xx Před rokem +1522

    At this point the MCU feels like a house party that should’ve ended five hours ago but we’re still there.

    • @D2Kprime
      @D2Kprime Před rokem +33

      Well said.

    • @chrissalih4382
      @chrissalih4382 Před rokem +51

      Well stop watching and for you it'll
      End

    • @Jrami22
      @Jrami22 Před rokem +13

      Agree.. shit at this point i just junk DCU might become more interesting lol with Gunns 5 or 10 yr plan

    • @evanBryan1
      @evanBryan1 Před rokem +35

      @@chrissalih4382fanbois gotta stop spending all their money to terrible movies and disney might just finally make a good mcu movie…. sometime 😂

    • @docdirtymrclean3610
      @docdirtymrclean3610 Před rokem +9

      You can leave if you want to. Im here for the long run. I want to see it all. i invested 15+years into this Story. You can get over feeling some sortve way. You are not going to get a oscar winner, deep, life altering movie. You are gonna get a comic book movie made by Marvel, a comic book company that makes movies. Just enjoy the show.
      and hey
      at least it isnt DC....

  • @orakaa
    @orakaa Před rokem +112

    Jeremy, that Owen Wilson impression was.... absolutely awesome.
    *We need more of it.*

  • @pan7374
    @pan7374 Před rokem +29

    Completely agree with your point about how many super annoyingly genius kids there are. Like come on bruh Hank Pym dedicated his life to trying to develop quantum realm travel & he only succeeded in old age. Howard stark and associates couldn’t even shrink properly until Darren cross came along. Now ant man’s kid did all this in a GARAGE? And the kid from black panther 2 is the same thing as well. It’s just too much.

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 Před 7 měsíci +2

      It's pour lazy nonsense writing, where they think smart types are substitutes for compelling characters

  • @Flash04Bmw
    @Flash04Bmw Před rokem +1194

    I thought the movie should've ended with Scott stuck in the Quantum Realm, just like Janet. His sacrifice would've hit harder and it would've given Cassie something to fight for as she would've felt like it was her fault her father was stuck. Hope could've trained her while they found a way to get him back and it could've been a legitimate origin story for her

    • @Yaqins
      @Yaqins Před rokem +98

      This! It was such a missed opportunity. Felt like Hope's returning for Scott meant nothing. Scott & Hope exploring Quantumania would make a great 4th movie.

    • @powerhouse884
      @powerhouse884 Před rokem +135

      And she manages to Open the portal back in like 50 seconds LMAOOO…. Holysh!t they are not even trying anymore.

    • @dylanross4203
      @dylanross4203 Před rokem +59

      Sacrifice wouldve hit harder...AND Scott and Hope could've led an empire from the quantum realm to help fight The Kang Dynasty.

    • @EricHernandez-vx8cv
      @EricHernandez-vx8cv Před rokem +27

      Rumors and leaks about the movie's plot that turned out to be true stated that Scott and Hope getting stuck in the quantum realm was the original ending but was reshot. I haven't seen the movie yet but know the new ending. But I feel like having them stuck would be too dour of a note to end another hero trilogy on and also would have been a repeat of the second movie where Scott got stuck in the quantum realm.

    • @masterjedi343
      @masterjedi343 Před rokem +57

      You know what would have been awesome? is if they didn't show who won that fight, and then when she opens it back up, out comes Kang wearing Scott's suit or signal or whatever. "Thanks for opening the way home." Then cut to black. boom.

  • @cpu1639
    @cpu1639 Před rokem +136

    They let Scott live so he can say to Kang the Conqueror in the Avengers movie: "Haven't I killed you before?"

    • @1zxtv
      @1zxtv Před rokem +20

      You know, it’s sad that they literally probably have this planned out and made it more a priority than planning out an actual cohesive plot and sequence for the franchise as a whole.

  • @rustyrobots426
    @rustyrobots426 Před rokem +41

    Seeing Kang's "you have no idea what I've lost" line after luthen's monologue in Andor really put the writing in perspective for me.

  • @EliteOnyx327
    @EliteOnyx327 Před rokem +35

    I’m definitely not ready for Scott to die, but I feel like if Hank or Janet had died it would’ve shown that Kang means business just as much. The MCUs stakes just feel really thin anymore.

  • @estherk5786
    @estherk5786 Před rokem +465

    Marvel choosing Jonathan Majors as Kang (or any main character, really) was such a smart move. His range is limitless, it seems. Takes his role very seriously. He can play a broccoli man even better than anyone else, I bet.

    • @rayromano6249
      @rayromano6249 Před rokem +27

      What's worse is knowing they're going to bring the xmen into this shit pile of a childrens franchise.

    • @jorgep19651
      @jorgep19651 Před rokem +21

      I can't wait to see Majors in Creed 3. Dude is one hell of an actor

    • @swirlingchi
      @swirlingchi Před rokem +8

      Though I’m a bit jaded with the MCU I’ll catch Ant-Man 3 mainly to see Jonathan’s performance, he is just a force of nature in anything he does. I only saw clips of Loki to see Jonathan and he’s mesmerizing

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Před rokem +4

      @@jorgep19651 I’m hyped for that movie

    • @PastorGooch
      @PastorGooch Před rokem +6

      My favorite scene in the whole movie is when Kang says "it's conquering time" and he kanged all over

  • @Dantetheinferno
    @Dantetheinferno Před rokem +123

    You nailed the Owen Wilson and MODOK impressions 😂😂

  • @boxterduke
    @boxterduke Před rokem +3

    I was on the floor laghing at that Owen Wilson impersonation. Well done good sir!

  • @nick-a-cola2749
    @nick-a-cola2749 Před rokem +109

    It’d have been wild if right when Janet says “Its over” to Kang he just says “ you think that matters? I just wanted to see how hard he would try.” He just makes a gesture and Scott is just back in the prison cell with Cassie. He just looks at him and has him realize that this isn’t some joke he’s the conqueror. Once Scott gave him back the orb Kang had full control of his machine. He just brings Scott back to the moment of the deal and gives Scott exactly what he wants. He leaves them in the cells leading to the end of the movie. They could have them not die by just being imprisoned until dynasty and it could show how devastating letting him out really was. End credit scene is just him going to that arena to slaughter all those goofy looking Kangs.

    • @EvGBeats
      @EvGBeats Před rokem +13

      You wrote a better movie than they did.

    • @terrancat
      @terrancat Před rokem +2

      They should probably hire you.

    • @ARottenMuffin
      @ARottenMuffin Před rokem

      Yess slaughter all the goofy looking ass Kangs lmao, people are busy bending over backwards to defend this movie but god damn they wasted Kang the same way they did Gorr, except now with the cop out he can come back as different Kangs.. But they developed this individual one, the same way they developed Thanos and then took away all that by killing him immediately and having them fight a completely different Thanos in endgame. Bruh was this one not THE 'conqueror,' we gotta see a movie of the evil Kang with a lisp? Gee how many jokes can they make about that.

  • @szero7429
    @szero7429 Před rokem +667

    The scene where Kang was torturing Scott was such an awesome villain moment "if you don't do what I say I'm going to kill your daughter and keep torturing you until you beg me to kill you", while being as cold and calm as possible

    • @nardinadeleon
      @nardinadeleon Před rokem +11

      Omg yes. Chills 😬

    • @stephenschofield577
      @stephenschofield577 Před rokem +7

      Yeah, that's all Johnathan Majors! He comes off as calm and cordial as can be, but when the cracks in that facade reveal the true absolutely terrifying rage filled monster underneath it's incredible.

    • @aSSGoblin1488
      @aSSGoblin1488 Před rokem +4

      kang is the only thing that stops this show from ok while drunk to total dog shot

    • @MichaelChisholmChizzieRascal
      @MichaelChisholmChizzieRascal Před rokem

      I think he should have actually killed her once and brought her back then he would be miles more threatening, people would have sat up and took notice.

    • @Dynamicpea
      @Dynamicpea Před rokem +10

      And suddenly, the power he was displaying there disappeared in the 3rd act when he and his army could not handle one giant ant man that ironman and rhodey could knock out with a single punch.

  • @Rob1n2K
    @Rob1n2K Před rokem +246

    I really really felt you when you said "its now comedy with some dramatic moments". it hurts so much that theyve turned a serious series of films with some natural good comedy into comedy films with unnatural serious moments of drama.

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Před rokem +2

      @iiTzBobby what’s wrong with having a mix of both types of movies?

    • @lukerota1547
      @lukerota1547 Před rokem +3

      I have been saying the exact same thing since Phase 4…

    • @Rob1n2K
      @Rob1n2K Před rokem +4

      @@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 that’s exactly what I want, which is why phase 3 was so good! This phase I feel like a lot of movies are JUST funny. Like even doctor strange was so very goofy for something that should’ve been a horror movie.

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Před rokem +1

      @@Rob1n2K I didn’t think Dr Strange was much comedy

    • @GRWelsh7
      @GRWelsh7 Před rokem +6

      Well stated. I never thought the super hero genre was primarily comedy or satire (with a few exceptions such as Deadpool), but rather was drama with occasional comedy elements sprinkled in (like Spider-man using humor to cope with horrible situations he is in -- the situations themselves are not funny). It has to feel dramatic with high stakes and the threat of bad things really happening, or it fails.

  • @Pleasant_Green
    @Pleasant_Green Před rokem +29

    Jeremy has just put voice to every thought I came out of the cinema with. I also expected Scott to die at the end and agree that would have been fitting. What also dissapointed me was that the trailer suggests Scott is offered time by Kang in exchange for helping him escape. I thought he would choose to side with Kang due to how much he missed of Cassie's life. In reality he has no choice but to help Kang, which was a shame because it would have been interesting to see what Scott would do faced with such a choice.

  • @dpoolx
    @dpoolx Před rokem +48

    Possibly the most trustworthy reviewer on the interwebs. Cheers, Jeremy.

  • @velvetthunder74
    @velvetthunder74 Před rokem +412

    i thought a lot of the dialogue in the first act especially was really odd. like this whole time Hope has been trying to get her mom to tell her the truth about the quantum realm because she knows she's been hiding something. and then when bill murray is like "your mom is keeping secrets from you" for some reason hope's reaction is to be like "you're lying."

    • @velvetthunder74
      @velvetthunder74 Před rokem +76

      also kang kept cassie for no reason and then in his final fight with scott is like "i want you to know that you could have just gone home. been with your daughter." like no uhh you kidnapped her

    • @N1ght_walk
      @N1ght_walk Před rokem +17

      Yeah, and, also, the mom asked Hope in the basement if she has been nagging her about her experience in the quantum realm for Cassie’s experiment. I thought it implied that Hope was genuinely asking her mom because she wanted to help her with her ptsd, but it never explains. Like, “oh, does she not care about her mom’s experience and is only asking to help with Cassie’s experiment?”
      Also, also, yeah, Kang even said to Scott “she’ll be fine without you,” implying that he doubled crossed him and was going to kill him anyways. It made no sense.

    • @chrishernandez5965
      @chrishernandez5965 Před rokem +25

      cassie lang was annoying in this movie lol

    • @dosumnboutit
      @dosumnboutit Před rokem +5

      @@velvetthunder74In Kangs defense, Scott could’ve returned home with Cassie, if they didn’t double cross him. But they started a rebellion instead.

    • @CodyJamez707
      @CodyJamez707 Před rokem

      Lying about her Mom being responsible for mass death and misery.. it was way more specific

  • @commandZee
    @commandZee Před rokem +172

    "Buried under mountains of CGI bullshit." That sums up what a lot of these MCU films feel to some of us.

    • @hamsterrwrld6767
      @hamsterrwrld6767 Před rokem

      Yet ya'll keep going to see them then getting online and crying when they and IF are bad :) pretty fucking hilarious. Maybe get a life? Get a better hobby?

    • @kdreamscosmos4279
      @kdreamscosmos4279 Před rokem +12

      Modok cgi was laughable.

    • @hamsterrwrld6767
      @hamsterrwrld6767 Před rokem

      @@kdreamscosmos4279 cool story bro

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před rokem +7

      @@kdreamscosmos4279 My entire theater laughed when he took off his mask. Every time I saw Darren's face, I was like "put the mask back on!!!" It was pretty bad

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Před rokem +4

      Monkeypaw??? “MODOK’s CGI is meant to be bad” actual MCU fans

  • @ba_eron6929
    @ba_eron6929 Před rokem +9

    Imagine that movie with the seriousness of winter soldier it would have been incredible

  • @gracey62uk
    @gracey62uk Před rokem +20

    THANK YOU! Ah, I am so glad to hear I am not the only one that thought Scott needed to die to save this film 😂

  • @sneakyfox5
    @sneakyfox5 Před rokem +231

    I wanted Scott to die too, then I wanted Scott and Hope to be stuck there together. Would’ve been a beautiful ending. Then neither happened!.. They just.. went home… It was a bit of a let down. Then we had Scott’s worry start to set in and I loved it! It reminded me of when I was a kid and didn’t do research to know what was coming next. It took me back!

    • @MetalMadness_00
      @MetalMadness_00 Před rokem +5

      Did hate he dismissed the incoming threat, I get his focus was on Cassie’s birthday but I can’t see Scott just blowing over that he could atleast consider the possibility and just decide he will get to it after her birthday party.

    • @VylonDelta
      @VylonDelta Před rokem +14

      When he worry i thought it would be like Loki's ending: it looks normal but then you got stuck in the wrong timeline.
      But no, nothing wrong. No bad consequences whatsoever

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Před rokem

      @@MetalMadness_00 maybe him dismissing is what will get him killed in Kang Dynasty?

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Před rokem +1

      @@VylonDelta for now tho, yes frustrating as it’s just more prelude and exposition, but I think that ending hints things won’t end well in next avengers movie

    • @MetalMadness_00
      @MetalMadness_00 Před rokem

      @@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 even so I can’t see Scott being that type of guy

  • @otter1268
    @otter1268 Před rokem +240

    in the eipilogue when scott was having a short realization that something feels wrong, I really expected the movie to have some kind of twist ending where Kang actually survived, got out, and altered the reality that Scott came back to somehow. It would've made for a much intriguing cliffhanger ending that leads to Kang dynasty with the current Kang. Instead it's just played for gags.

    • @Billy193
      @Billy193 Před rokem +9

      Yo man, same thoughts here

    • @Andy666TheBeast
      @Andy666TheBeast Před rokem +13

      i know right? hope's hair also looked different, a little browner, in that scene. i thought damn he might be in a different reality, but no...

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 Před rokem +3

      Eh did you miss the end credit scenes?

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 Před rokem +45

      Sacrificing good storytelling in order to tell a stupid gag is MCU's trademark

    • @bretsheeley4034
      @bretsheeley4034 Před rokem +7

      It's played for a gag, but in the end it's still a foreshadowing. Even at the birthday dinner, it still looks like he's quietly worrying.

  • @Papaw.Rooster
    @Papaw.Rooster Před rokem +31

    I was so enthralled by the MCU. It was my absolute jam. Not only that not the case anymore, it’s the exact opposite. I’m actually so very disinterested.

    • @blkstang4830
      @blkstang4830 Před rokem +7

      I don’t even bother to pay to see them anymore. I wait for free on Disney +.

  • @brendanobrien8198
    @brendanobrien8198 Před rokem +31

    I agree that I was rooting for kang. I loved the family and the first 20 minutes with them. I really wanted our loveable atman to feel like he’s the reason kang comes to his reality. Forced to choose his family over being a hero

  • @cozenveil
    @cozenveil Před rokem +405

    Yo, that Owen Wilson impression genuinely killed me, I nearly woke up my family laughing so hard
    well done LOL

    • @thejaded
      @thejaded Před rokem +9

      Got hollow walls lol

    • @albertosalazar2261
      @albertosalazar2261 Před rokem +8

      Bahahahahahah I lost it too what a perfect impression

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 Před rokem +3

      Jeremy is a gifted mimic. There are compilations of his wide-ranging voice impressions on CZcams. He doesn't do them much any more, but when he does it's golden, like this.

  • @user-ed3bp7mb9r
    @user-ed3bp7mb9r Před rokem +479

    We're at this stage when it's OK to watch spoiler talk videos because of how little we care and expect from a Marvel film. Saved me money and time

    • @artistaroundtheblock2047
      @artistaroundtheblock2047 Před rokem +27

      Yep
      I feel you. If I do watch this I would watch it to be with friends not for the actual movie.

    • @markling5058
      @markling5058 Před rokem +13

      No u just listen to other people and base Ur opinions on it instead of watching and judging urself the film is great not amazing but very solid but like said it should be your opinion someone else I just listen to reviews to hear others takes not to alter my opinion

    • @fahimalfaisal7781
      @fahimalfaisal7781 Před rokem

      @@markling5058 shhhh !Don’t talk logic with these brain deads !

    • @hioctanemotoworld2288
      @hioctanemotoworld2288 Před rokem +19

      I rarely upvoting or replying any comment on CZcams, but this is what I truly feel at this very moment about MSheU 🤣
      Kudos for you Sir for writing what I've been feeling lately.
      Gotta save some money and time indeed!

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Před rokem +1

      Mark Ling - oh stfu - you Marvel stans look at good reviews as,
      “I knew it was good” but when someone says something you don’t like about your beloved shallow, blockbuster you suddenly turn to,
      “I’m gonna make up my own mind” and “He’s just a critic - critics don’t matter” MCU been trash for years

  • @raouljain1433
    @raouljain1433 Před rokem +1

    Loved the Austin Powers clip lol! Always love your takes Jeremy! Huge fan for a long time!

  • @andrewbrandenburg3842
    @andrewbrandenburg3842 Před rokem +6

    They should’ve made MODOK the villain of this movie, while prepping people for Kang. Then show Kang at the end of the movie, but don’t kill him off like he’s nothing. That would’ve been way better to set up Kang and make him the true villain he really is.

  • @theyhateandrew8529
    @theyhateandrew8529 Před rokem +97

    I'm just lost on how Kang could kill all those Avengers in other universes (presumably other Ant Men too) yet he couldn't prepare for our Scott. Hmm

    • @GMO_ch
      @GMO_ch Před rokem +25

      Ya I didn’t get it. If he couldn’t freeze big ant man like he did when he was in the cell how would he stop other stronger avengers

    • @rafetizer
      @rafetizer Před rokem +8

      His arm tech got stuck on "ranged punch" mode.

    • @Lagacy
      @Lagacy Před rokem +13

      Kang would of been in his full conqueror mode when he fought previous avengers with all his tech in tact, kang was fighting antman and wasp same time no prob but modok fried his force field and he got messed up by the army of ants and clearly his suit was malfunctioning after that point being quite depowered and he still beat Scott in a fight it took wasp and her stingers to push him back and then send him into that device. He did a great job if you ask me he was heavily outnumbered he didn’t have any competent soldiers just pure fodder. I think this kang is that guy and he will be back he’ll kill all other variants and take their power becoming a real threat above Thanos

    • @chrishernandez5965
      @chrishernandez5965 Před rokem +32

      @@Lagacy sounds like lame excuses for a supposedly big bad that we’re suppose to believe is all that but loses in his first appearance. what a joke

    • @Lagacy
      @Lagacy Před rokem +2

      @@chrishernandez5965 I like it cause I’m sure he’ll come back and show how tenacious he is! Kangs coming got conqueror haki

  • @abdulqawyburhanuddin7826
    @abdulqawyburhanuddin7826 Před rokem +26

    That Owen Wilson part man, that is GOLDEN! 🤣

  • @jonathanchen1026
    @jonathanchen1026 Před rokem +12

    The way the ending was setup was looking like Scott would stay behind to prevent kang from leaving the QR…even if they got out. I thought if kang had let everyone step out, he could just get the core (that they left behind after opening the portal back home) that’s fully intact and restored and just get out later.

  • @yolomolo2736
    @yolomolo2736 Před rokem +2

    Oh man 😂, you really killed it with the Owen Wilson impression

  • @MrEnKaye
    @MrEnKaye Před rokem +253

    Reading after the fact that this movie was written by a Rick and Morty writer, this makes SO much more sense. This whole movie felt like an extended Rick and Morty episode. The humour, the lack of real stakes, the alternate realities and even the council (yes, I know it's originlly from the comics). I feel like every Marvel movie I've seen since endgame, the shine wears off faster and faster after I leave the theatre.

    • @fahimalfaisal7781
      @fahimalfaisal7781 Před rokem

      And ?

    • @SpideysNightmare02
      @SpideysNightmare02 Před rokem +29

      ^responses like that is the reason mcu the way it is

    • @TenshiiNight
      @TenshiiNight Před rokem +1

      He didn’t write all the episodes tho and honestly the ones he did write were the better ones. Samurai Rick and the vat of acid one are two

    • @EasyJayce
      @EasyJayce Před rokem +9

      @@TenshiiNight I instantly thought of Rick and Morty when the "Do you have any holes?" guy came on screen. Now it makes sense lol

    • @tee_swag
      @tee_swag Před rokem

      @@SpideysNightmare02 what do you expect from Indians, man? No matter how crappy MCU movies will become, Asia and it's fanbots who are not even reading comics will be satisfied as long as shit mcu movies will be thrown at their mouths🤣

  • @dday906
    @dday906 Před rokem +408

    Jeremy, thank you for touching on the fact that Kang has no actual powers. It's all good highly advanced tech. Many think he does have powers, but he doesn't. It's his suit and whatever tech he made in the 31st century. Really makes it scarier that, unlike Thanos, this is just a regular human with so much power at his fingertips.

    • @Josh-dy4lq
      @Josh-dy4lq Před rokem +3

      Why (in my opinion) he should be a long descendant of Stark, and not Reed.

    • @NatKyngKong420
      @NatKyngKong420 Před rokem +51

      @@Josh-dy4lq Reed is levels above Tony as far as intelligence as well as tech...!

    • @peppershakergaming3793
      @peppershakergaming3793 Před rokem +12

      @@NatKyngKong420 I believe they even in the comics. Franklin Richards makes both Reed and Tony look stupid.

    • @fuegofreh3648
      @fuegofreh3648 Před rokem

      @@NatKyngKong420 Reed in the MCU is retarded tho

    • @NatKyngKong420
      @NatKyngKong420 Před rokem

      @@fuegofreh3648 😆 that's not the main Reed though

  • @xXDevilHornzXx
    @xXDevilHornzXx Před rokem +12

    Kang was the highlight in this movie, I think what made him even more menacing was how calm he was about what he has done like it's just his way of life, every scene he was in I was captivated, and yes I agree ad much as I love Scott, I was secretly hoping he would die so Kang can really cement his villian arc

  • @dgti
    @dgti Před rokem +5

    One of your best reviews in a while. Was a dumpster fire of a movie imo, but whether it's good or bad thanks for always keeping it real! I really dig when you go into rants since you can tell how passionate you are about it. Reason why I'll always come back to your channel.

  • @isomericgamer6644
    @isomericgamer6644 Před rokem +164

    So apparently it was supposed to be that Scott and Hope were to be trapped in the quantum realm in order to defeat Kang but after some reshoots they changed that to make the movie more lighthearted. This was confirmed by the same guy who leaked the Spider-Man No Way Home script a while back confirming that green goblin was the main villian and Andrew Garfield, Tobey Maguire were coming back too. Such a shame really.

    • @maketheinternetgreatagain5146
      @maketheinternetgreatagain5146 Před rokem +34

      Man that sounds so much better :/ wish marvel would take risk

    • @Rantandum
      @Rantandum Před rokem +55

      This would've been a PERFECT motivator for Cassie to step up and become a hero. She would've felt guilty over what happened, and Hank and Janet could train her in using a Pym suit while working with her to bring the others back. But no, she just suddenly has a portal to the Quantum Realm somehow and it's a safe, happy ending. So dumb.

    • @theprowler18
      @theprowler18 Před rokem +24

      That Climax absolutely reeks of a last minute rewrite/reshoot. I wonder if the plot being leaked online might have forced them to change it as well as the mandate it seems to make it more Saturday Morning Cartoon friendly. That was the moment it needed to end on a darker note to enforce how much of a threat Kang is.

    • @Volvagia0slayer
      @Volvagia0slayer Před rokem +13

      We’ve already done “character tragically trapped in the quantum realm” twice now in the MCU, so it doesn’t bother me that they avoided doing that for a third time, especially since Cassie’s map and the retrieval tech for Ant-Man 2 means they should have logically been rescued within days of being trapped down there anyway. But I get feeling it was too saccharine. You just couldn’t play the trap card to tragic it up. They could have only avoided that by killing one of them or stranding one of them in the past/future.

    • @cowboyxboombap
      @cowboyxboombap Před rokem +5

      Yeah, the movie had multiple moments where it could've ended and been more suspenseful. Scott could've been killed by Kang, or Kang could've gotten through and left Scott. Hope and Scott being stuck, that's another spot it could've ended. Then Scott on the street starting to worry about "the bad stuff coming," with some subtle nods to it being a Kang timeline (a'la Loke finale). Unfortunately they went the route where the movie really doesn't matter to the overall plot.

  • @skylerrutherford9870
    @skylerrutherford9870 Před rokem +235

    I found myself cheering for Kang as well. I thought he was an excellent villain whose arc I really want to see expanded on. But the one from this universe, not all those other ones

    • @troybutler5236
      @troybutler5236 Před rokem +1

      Literally on the edge of my seat hoping he killed Scott and made it through that portal 😭

    • @Cousinbiddy1
      @Cousinbiddy1 Před rokem +1

      Is Kang a black guy , I was looking at what kang looked and he was a blue guy so I’m confused is kang a black guy hiding his blue guy disguise?

    • @Malafammm
      @Malafammm Před rokem +12

      @@Cousinbiddy1 in the comics he wears a blue mask just like in the movie. He’s just a normal looking guy with a blue mask and scars

    • @tommyvasquez2708
      @tommyvasquez2708 Před rokem +1

      @@Cousinbiddy1nah he's a guy wearing a blue mask even in the comics

    • @Mexirican017
      @Mexirican017 Před rokem +16

      @@Cousinbiddy1why does it matter?

  • @ReviewsofEverything
    @ReviewsofEverything Před rokem +1

    Genuinely appreciate an honest review that delves into the good and bad of the movie without being too condescending. Thank you Jeremy 👌

  • @sayedelsherif6354
    @sayedelsherif6354 Před rokem +3

    Ok im gonna say it you're a National Treasure my man 10 years and more and You have been killing it & didn’t lose the touch. Been watching since 2017-2018 and i always loved the format of your review then you grew on me and i cant imagine the day you won't review the next big movie. Absloute National Treasure my friend.

  • @astropictures4396
    @astropictures4396 Před rokem +35

    Jeremy's impression of Owen Wilson was absolutely perfect omg

  • @yoolsam
    @yoolsam Před rokem +173

    I felt the same way about Scott not dying. It would've been a better wrap up to that family story line.

    • @eddiek8179
      @eddiek8179 Před rokem +5

      Seriously, killing off Scott is one of the dumbest and most predictable thing ever to get cheap emotional quotient out of it. What's better would be he's trapped there in a bad situation and Kang escapes. Why is killing someone the best way of wrapping up a family storyline? How cheap and easy is that? It's like a jump scare or a bad pun. That kind of death needs to be earned like Stark's in Endgame. Killing off a main character is just as dumb as a cheap saccharine happy ending. It needs to organically arrive there.

    • @ejodh0826
      @ejodh0826 Před rokem +7

      I think it would’ve been better if they trapped him and hope in the quantum realm

    • @eddiek8179
      @eddiek8179 Před rokem +1

      @@ejodh0826 Yes. Exactly. There's more drama and emotion to mine with his family desperately trying to save him form the quantum realm than just ending a story about a man who's always been in a spot by arbitrarily killing him off after he finally achieves success by having a complete family. What's the point of that? So we can get cool edgelord ''it's midnight dark'' points? Killing him off is just lazy writing. It can be done but not the way this movie was done. This should not have been a Kang focused movie.
      It should have been escape adventure exploration movie of the quantum realm and its people and dangers. They should brought in Kang towards the end as they were about to escape, he tricks them and escapes, leaving either Scott behind or all of them. That way. they would have kept his menace going. He does not need this whole movie to show us who he is - we kinda know already with Loki. It does not change his status quo in the MCU before or after the movie. They meet at the end, he tricks/fights them and escapes and now we have cliffhanger about Kang in the real world. Much better.

  • @ashtonwillson5560
    @ashtonwillson5560 Před rokem

    Great review btw! 💯 I agree on everything.🙌 Theatres are not even getting fully booked on the first day.

  • @kiddroach7156
    @kiddroach7156 Před rokem

    7:35 your Owen Wilson impression was pretty spot on man 🤘🤣

  • @CoochiesaurusX
    @CoochiesaurusX Před rokem +54

    Those Austin Powers’ cuts were cinematic Jeremy, well played.

  • @Pwn3dbyth3n00b
    @Pwn3dbyth3n00b Před rokem +358

    Janette is super scared with PTSD because of them sending a signal into the Quantum realm yet in Antman 2 post credit scene they're just sending Scott in the Quantum realm willy-nilly to collect some healing particles. Kang could have easily found Scott thinking he's alone in there and take his pym particles to do whatever he needs to do.

    • @MrEnKaye
      @MrEnKaye Před rokem +36

      Oh shit YEAH! Forgot about that! Good catch!

    • @Lagacy
      @Lagacy Před rokem +59

      They weren’t going deep enough into the realm to worry about it. Also marvels excuse for them not knowing a living universe is down there

    • @icecreamcake5381
      @icecreamcake5381 Před rokem +17

      Tbf, when they were harvesting the quantum energy for Ghost they weren't sending a signal for anyone to track their location.

    • @RawbeardX
      @RawbeardX Před rokem +8

      obviously this is the Thor 1 timeline. the willy nilly was from the Thor 4 timeline.

    • @KMmusic316
      @KMmusic316 Před rokem

      That's because janet was worried that kang would track down the location of janet's home if he ever gets out of the quantum realm. In Antman 2, it is just scott trying to scratch the surface

  • @djofortunato5799
    @djofortunato5799 Před rokem +1

    Damn. You just nailed it with the Taskmaster in Black Widow comparison I.e. MODOK.
    My hope is that this won’t be the last version of MODOK. Bc a proper Patton Oswald voiced version would be a great addition to Armor Wars or WW Hulk …

  • @ericmack001
    @ericmack001 Před rokem

    Wow, I forgot how nice you are with impressions. You Owen Wilson impression was dope!! The Antman movie sounds pretty good

  • @Swoody1866
    @Swoody1866 Před rokem +423

    Jeremy hit the nail on the head with Kang, really, really like the actor playing him. Some of his scenes give you chills. He barely taps his hand, and he is throwing people around, and some of his lines give you the feeling that none of the rebellion at the end even matters like where he says "I don't move in straight lines" or Michelle Phipher says it's over and he says you think this matters. I was fully expecting him to just wave his hand and Scott, Cassie, and the rest of the scooby gang to jump back right to the basement with him saying some crytic line or riddle and then end BUT no pops and sheild and ants and I was like really? Like Jeremy said, this is the Villan. You just spent 2 hours introducing me, and that's it he gets sucked into his core, and we get introduced to more of them who cares about them. I care about this guy.

    • @dedios03
      @dedios03 Před rokem +11

      Same shit I thought about end game that wasn't thier Thanos. Always felt uneasy about that thats why my all time fav marvel movie after iron 1 is infinity war

    • @Crichjo32
      @Crichjo32 Před rokem +18

      Infinity war is still the best MCU movie, IMO. I don't think it's going to be topped anytime soon.

    • @sotorc1448
      @sotorc1448 Před rokem +1

      @@Crichjo32 then you're very small minded and don't know much about the comics

    • @PoldarkGodzilla
      @PoldarkGodzilla Před rokem +1

      He ain’t no thanos , not scary enough

    • @sotorc1448
      @sotorc1448 Před rokem +2

      @@PoldarkGodzilla but yet thanos would be scared of Kang🤣🤣🤣 you people don't understand how powerful someone is who is multiversal. Which is why in what if Thanos last 1 second

  • @theneck7181
    @theneck7181 Před rokem +306

    This movie in my opinion had a lot of potential. Nothing more exemplifies this than MODOK. Having him be Darren was an interesting take and could have set him up to be a terrifying villain. He’s been trapped in the Quantum Realm for who knows how long, and Scott’s the one who put him there. He already didn’t like the Pym’s and stole Hank’s company. He is greedy and power-hungry, and he should want revenge on Scott. The setup was there, and then he took off his mask, and I saw a face that while being executed well on a technical level, looks completely ridiculous. It’s no wonder they killed him off, because every time Darren’s stretched-out face and ass (yes, his ass is in the movie), I nearly burst out laughing. Instead of a threat, MODOK was a punchline because of the execution. There are moments where he’s genuinely threatening and he almost killed Hank, but Marvel couldn’t help themselves. Finally, after Cassie told him to stop being a dick, he has his character arc and kills himself. What a waste.

    • @punkake3051
      @punkake3051 Před rokem +23

      this is subjective but who the hell is going to take a floating head with baby arms and legs seriously. plus the bowl cut. gotta be the goofiest character design of all time regardless of the comics or the mcu

    • @uur_mum
      @uur_mum Před rokem +7

      Yea I feel like he kinda of had to be joke. His comic book character design is just so preposterous and goofy it would be impossible to adapt to live action in a way that is intimidating and serious. So in true marvel fashion he basically served as comedic relief, which I was fine with I guess. He made me laugh a lot, no matter how dumb it was. I’ll agree it was a bit of a waste thought for sure. Could’ve been more if you don’t try to put an actual human face on him

    • @Halllad
      @Halllad Před rokem +11

      It's like
      "Stop being bad"
      "OK, I don't care that I've been stuck for years and my whole life taken away from me"

    • @SmoothOperaturr
      @SmoothOperaturr Před rokem +5

      Infantilized the fuck out of the character and the universe.. It's so disappointing.. Ant man should've been brutally murdered to set up a serious murderous villain

    • @ankitdas6620
      @ankitdas6620 Před rokem +1

      They have him all the jokes cuz Kang couldn't have any. MCU were never gonna use MODOK anywhere seriously so it's best to have him be just one and done as side villain. At least you got to see him in love action for once.

  • @snbks4ever
    @snbks4ever Před rokem

    I just legit LOL'ed when you mentioned Modak and the face being in the wrong aspect ratio. That basically nails it

  • @chadstilson8804
    @chadstilson8804 Před rokem

    Ooo Lagavulin... Good Choice :) Also, Im in the same Head Cannon that you are in with Thor.

  • @phillamarre
    @phillamarre Před rokem +90

    I think they originally had Scott die or at the very least get stuck in the quantum realm. Then they got cold feet and did reshoots.

    • @aerystargaryenii2565
      @aerystargaryenii2565 Před rokem +12

      They needed him to do some more shows on the Disney Cruise

    • @hamsterrwrld6767
      @hamsterrwrld6767 Před rokem

      Or the reshoots were for pop up shots at the beginning of the movie and you go into these things expecting way too much, especially out of an Ant-Man film. Go in there expecting to have fun, not expecting to see the entirety Endgame level of writing, when its not even an Avengers film?

    • @chrishernandez5965
      @chrishernandez5965 Před rokem +6

      leave it to marvel to never have stakes in there movies lmao except spider-man which wasn’t even completely marvel

    • @fahimalfaisal7781
      @fahimalfaisal7781 Před rokem

      @@chrishernandez5965 never have any stakes ?Like the very last movie WF ?Spiderman is marvel ?WTF ?GTFO !

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Před rokem +6

      Supposedly the movie was much darker and the reshoots included more jokes

  • @ericjones6596
    @ericjones6596 Před rokem +143

    While watching this movie, I kept thinking about how I never felt like there was a real threat to any of the main characters. Which kind of sucked, because I wanted there to be some weight to the proceedings. In that fight at the end, I was actually getting a glimmer of fear, thinking that Scott might sacrifice his life to save everyone else, that he and Kang might both die. Then, when that didn't happen, I thought the consequences for Hope and Scott would be that they would be trapped in the Quantum realm, and I was pretty happy to have that as the ending. But they wouldn't even go that far. Cassie somehow just BOOM reopens the portal, and everyone gets to go home. So even though I had a good time with it, I was underwhelmed at the end.

    • @disguisedcentennial835
      @disguisedcentennial835 Před rokem +3

      At this point you must like the pain because this has been their formula for a decade. Endgame was the only break. Even Infinity War’s loss, Loki, was retconned.

    • @captchasuck
      @captchasuck Před rokem

      No stakes

    • @MrBrock314
      @MrBrock314 Před rokem +2

      @@disguisedcentennial835 But at least it's retconned with a different variant of Loki much like the variant of Gamora. But you can't say Kang is centuries ahead in tech and beaten by Antman tech from the 21st century, it's ridiculous. Thanos may have been powerful but he's from the present.
      It's like suggesting English longbowmen would take down a modern-day tank or be effective against nuclear missiles. They're so outclassed it's not even a battle.

    • @chronicbrightside8757
      @chronicbrightside8757 Před rokem

      very marvel. or should i say, very disney. the whole "fake-out death" thing where the audience is clearly led into thinking a character will die or has died, only to survive against all odds and logic, is endemic to the mcu but you can also see it in the rise of skywalker. the amount of times you THINK a character has been killed off only to be fine a scene later... the writers want the shock of a moment like that, but not the actual consequences of it, and it just strips out all the stakes from a movie. and the lack of stakes has gotten worse after the introduction of the multiverse, where you can just replace one character with an alternate version - or so marvel seems to think. like jeremy noted, we as an audience dont KNOW these alternate versions, were not invested, and so we dont actually care about them. i think this massive lack of stakes is killing investment in the audience and is (part of) why marvel and star wars movies have both fallen so far in the eyes of fans.

    • @rileymachelle4088
      @rileymachelle4088 Před rokem

      ​@@disguisedcentennial835 I see you're new to comicbook stories, because the concept of death doesn't really exist for superheroes. They always come back, pretty sure no superhero has ever stayed dead before.
      Captain America, Peter Parker, Deadpool, Wolverine, Hawkeye, Dr Strange, Scott Lang/Antman, Thor, The Human Torch, Kang, Thanos, Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Loki, Galactus. Pretty much every Marvel character ever has died and been brought back. Whether it's through resurrection, reincarnation, time travel, the Multiverse, or a timeline reset like from Secret Wars. Characters dying and coming back to life or being replaced by variants is a concept you just have to get used to when it comes to this genre

  • @tjorfdc
    @tjorfdc Před rokem

    Lagavulin 16 is my fav!
    Great taste dude!

  • @aguile
    @aguile Před rokem +6

    That was what I felt mostly. And I agree, maybe not about on expecting him to die, but as the movie went on, at least having him trapped in the quantum realm with the wasp at the very end would be a nice ending, and a good hook to expand or make them come back to the idea. The movie just made it worse, going against everything at the very end on making them able to go back WITHOUT THE CORE, which was at that point deemed necessary for them to travel back. (Why did they need the core? They could have just rebuild the device with a box of scraps, which looked like one)
    I think that's what is happening with MCU in general. When you handle multiverse or time travel, you need to have your rules set well established or the stakes can magically be undone, since everyone has their own interpretation on how that might work and they are not. It's like Hulk/Banner explaining the rules at Endgame, we knew by that the stakes, since they couldn't use the stones again and again to bring Natasha.
    For me, this movie was fun, but proved they have no idea how to handle it since every director screwed up a something already established in one way or another.

    • @NaedSdouza
      @NaedSdouza Před rokem

      I thought of what you said as well, about how Cassie was able to just magically get them out;
      And the answer I’ve settled on ,is that it’s not easy for them to go from inside the realm to out.
      But once someone is on the outside , it’s easy to open a portal to pull them back out.
      What bothers me ,is there’s NO consequences!
      Last time Ant Man was in the realm, he missed 5 years !!
      Even if they had come out of the quantum realm fine, they could have easily had a time-skip.
      Ant man could have returned to a point 10 years in the future , or 5 years in the past.
      Anything.
      But no, no consequence at all

  • @b-rye223
    @b-rye223 Před rokem +48

    I loved how they made Kang look up until the whole thing with the ants taking him away…
    Like this is the variant that conquered timelines and wiped them out by himself…
    Lazy Hollywood writing right there

    • @keddage1
      @keddage1 Před rokem +1

      Right? Feels convenient as always that it’s this guy who wiped out multiple teams of avengers by himself… but nah this time they got ants!… and the wasp with a wrist gun I guess that’s enough… just… highly convenient lol

  • @bruceaeroustile9769
    @bruceaeroustile9769 Před rokem +21

    The most feared Kang. who all the other kangs was afraid of and couldn’t beat so they had to banish him.. also who destroyed universes and beat endless Avengers team got beat by Antman, Wasp, his daughter, and bunch of ants… 😂😂😂 This is not how you introduce your biggest threat since thanos.. sometimes the villain should win!

    • @Peer165
      @Peer165 Před rokem

      The Kylo Ren syndrome.

    • @chrishernandez5965
      @chrishernandez5965 Před rokem +3

      marvel contradicts themself when they have every character fear him and say he is this big bad only for him to lose that way lol it was a joke

    • @funkalotz76
      @funkalotz76 Před rokem

      what makes it worse is they literally had thanos win in infinity war, they let the villian win for once , they did the thing with the guy who’s supposed to be less scary than kang and they couldn’t be bothered to replicate it again. it’s like they’re actively trying to ruin their films

  • @samanthanorton4538
    @samanthanorton4538 Před rokem +7

    I 100% agree with the multiverse theory based on the name of this phase. I think each movie takes place in a different split of the multiverse, and there will be a movie where they all come back together. Maybe even going back to previous movies and changing parts around to get the most successful outcome in a battle.

    • @chronicbrightside8757
      @chronicbrightside8757 Před rokem

      i didnt realize until this video that this theory was being floated, but honestly it makes sense. youve got the eternals killing an actual god and encurring the wrath of another one, spiderman losing literally everything, everything that has to do with love and thunder, guardians looks like its shaping up to be a dark one... marvel doesnt typically take these kinds of risks. it seems wholly plausible to me that all this darkness is being temporarily allowed because these are all branching timelines, which by the end of phase 5 will be "corrected" and merge into one primary timelines where everything goes back to the status quo. lets face it, itd be just like marvel/disney to finally do something different with some actual stakes only to renege at the last possible second.
      plus, with how negatively most of phase 4 (and now phase 5) has been received, it gives a convenient, in-universe means of retcon - they can discard everything people didnt like and keep what people did like and just hold up their everything-proof shield against criticism and scream "multiverse!" i can already see phase 6 having a bunch of snarky quippy dialogue about the failed bits of the last two phases, the way that the universal traumatic catastrophe of "the blip" has barely been explored seriously and was quickly reduced to cheap jokes.

  • @riverofstars3287
    @riverofstars3287 Před rokem

    WOOOO! You share my headcanon about Love and Thunder Thor being a different universe lol that’s the first I’ve seen someone else say that.

  • @ArtIsMySin19
    @ArtIsMySin19 Před rokem +43

    Personally instead of Scott I thought Hank would be the one to make the sacrifice. Hank has been grieving over not being able to save his wife it would be the end to his arc sacrificing himself for Hope, Janet and finally acknowledging Scott as his equal.

  • @theoutrageparticle6469
    @theoutrageparticle6469 Před rokem +85

    The MCU has quickly become the Hallmark Channel of big budget filmmaking.

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 Před rokem +7

      Wow

    • @jameydunne3920
      @jameydunne3920 Před rokem +8

      Except people who watch Hallmark movies go in expect oodles of Velveeta comfort food mac & cheese when they watch it. MCU has devolved into the product we're currently receiving.
      Hallmark is giving it's audience what it expect when they invest 90-120 minutes of their life. People are going into Marvel movies knowing the should be getting filet mignon and being served chopped steak.

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 Před rokem +2

      @@jameydunne3920 Filet mignon? MCU hasn't been that since the MCU spiderman trilogy ended. Nobody should be expecting that now lol

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry Před rokem +4

      Ya'll really haven't come to terms w/the fact that MOST Marvel movies have been mediocre AF, have you? 🤷🏻‍♀️🫤 lol Most of them aren't grounded or sophisticated films. You get excited about 'em, see them once or even a few times... but then never talk about them again. Most of the sequels movies in the franchise were duds. Who cares about IronMan 2 or 3? Or Thor 2 for example? And a lot of them ya'll only went to for the end credit scene, so you could get a glimpse for what was coming next. Out of 25 f*ckin movies... I'd say maybe 4 or 5 of them were actual quality. The Eternals was dogsh*t. Dr Strange 2 was awful. I mean, they aren't even trying anymore... cuz they know they're gonna get your coin regardless. Ya'll will eat up anything colorful & cringe, but it doesn't mean it's GOOD. I don't know what else to tell ya.

    • @hamsterrwrld6767
      @hamsterrwrld6767 Před rokem +4

      @@KabbalahSherry A lot of us real Marvel fans enjoyed Iron man 1 & 2. Just because you people don't know how to sit down and have fun with something but instead have to sit there and be negative and look for the bad in things doesn't make them "Mediocre as fuck" it just means they are not for you, its simple. You are NOT the target audience, go read a Marvel comic and come back.

  • @kemalatayev
    @kemalatayev Před rokem +15

    When they went through the portal at the end what did they think would happen? They are leaving it open for Kang to walk though and the device that powers it, the maguffin is now in Kang’s hands.

    • @bigb5362
      @bigb5362 Před rokem +1

      I think that was the point of Scott rethinking what had happened in the end. There’s definitely a possibility kang is still alive.

  • @saintlusso2907
    @saintlusso2907 Před rokem +16

    I don’t think it’s a coincidence that out of all the possible Kang variants we could’ve seen in this movie, it just so happens to be one that has a strong and persistent hatred for other Kangs. I think the variant we just saw is a earlier version of He Who Remains. What if like Hank not being able to detect the life in the quantum realm because of the void, it’s the same way for wherever this Kang got sucked into. The other Kang variants think he’s dead which gives him best possible opportunity to plot in secret.

    • @kbrewers
      @kbrewers Před rokem

      Thats what i was thinking too! that somehow, The One Who Remains (edited: He Who Remains), somehow is tied to this Quantum Kang. I dont think the scars on the face are the same, but i am thinking the exact same thing.

  • @alexstevenson4021
    @alexstevenson4021 Před rokem +21

    that owen wilson impression was absolute perfection 😂

  • @GB6__YT
    @GB6__YT Před rokem +90

    My biggest question about this film is that they literally never address Janet’s quantum powers from the previous movie. Like, wouldn’t that have been useful in the quantum realm? How did she get them???? Where did they go????????

    • @spentlizard353
      @spentlizard353 Před rokem +68

      Where did they come from, Quantum-Eyed Joe?

    • @walkertexasraymond
      @walkertexasraymond Před rokem +7

      @@spentlizard353 bravo👏

    • @Dennis-gn1nq
      @Dennis-gn1nq Před rokem +6

      ​@@spentlizard353 😂😂😂

    • @KajiKintsugi
      @KajiKintsugi Před rokem +2

      Omg yuss! Wow there really are some frealin holes in the movie. I watched the whole thing the other night and forgot Janet had quantum powers. Also how is she the same age as Hank Pym if time works differently down there? Shouldnt she just be around the same age she was when she shrunk?

    • @walkertexasraymond
      @walkertexasraymond Před rokem +2

      @@KajiKintsugi also they make such a big deal about staying away from the quantum realm yet in AntMan 2 at the end they were sending him down there to get shit lol

  • @juniorvasquez93
    @juniorvasquez93 Před rokem +6

    One thing that I realized after watching the movie was why did Janet have grow discs on her when she grew the core, because remember they were made in the first ant-man outside the quantum realm so she couldn’t have had them till she got out in the second one

    • @ARottenMuffin
      @ARottenMuffin Před rokem +3

      Why did Antman and Wasp get hit by his dematerializing lasers and shrug it off? I don't know man but I wish they made it make sense...

  • @J_Lauds
    @J_Lauds Před rokem +5

    I didn't go to see most of the latest MCU movies in theaters (Shang-Chi, Eternals, Thor Love and Thunder, for example) but the trailer for this one looked so good! Leaving the theater, it was the first time in a while where my partner and I just had nothing to say about an MCU movie on the drive home. In press, the actors kept saying that this movie would up the stakes even more for Ant-Man and even with Kang's plan and the repercussions that would come if he were to escape, I just couldn't buy into it. Doctor Strange and Wakanda Forever had me more concerned about the villain than this movie did. It's the writing and pacing - I thought Jonathan Majors was fantastic!

  • @offtankgaming1310
    @offtankgaming1310 Před rokem +70

    Great point about Mordo… that was a bummer, and really took the punch out of the most compelling character from the first film (alternate versions apparently saw him beheaded by Wanda at the start, so, they were wasting him regardless).
    It’s also like Jerome in Gotham, where Cameron did such a great job as a young Joker, but he couldn’t actually be the Joker, and ended up playing a copycat of a copycat of himself.
    This Kang meant business, and was developed in such a way that, even with an identical “clone”, it’s not gonna work the same, because we saw this guy lose in his first appearance and it becomes less about his character, and more about the gimmick of variants and copies. It’s nowhere near as effective. Similarly to how Thanos 2014 from Endgame differed from Infinity War Thanos, but at least that’s the same guy, just different ages/points in time.
    As for Scott, they couldn’t really trap him in the quantum realm for a third time, but killing him takes away his ability to warn everyone about Kang’s threat, just like Bruce did for Thanos. It’s gonna be a tricky balance to pull off, but if they do it right, and let Majors shine, Kang could be really special in a larger film. Especially if this version (possibly Kang Prime) uses the council’s belief of his death to his advantage, comes back from it, and kills them all again. Maybe even becomes “He Who Remains…”

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Před rokem +2

      @OffTankGaming ​ What I hope as far as Kang’s motivation goes (SPOILERS From Breaking Bad and Quantamnia):
      ||I hope Kang constantly reiterating that he is “trying to save the multiverse and control time” is Heisenberg’s “I’m doing this for my family” and deep down Kang admits to himself he was bored and loves to conquer for the sake of it and is inherently evil just like how Heisenberg admitted he did everything for himself, it will tie Kang’s motivation from comics really well and considering Kang’s messed with time at first and the reason time sucks, quantamania set up Kang motivation to be pretty dynamic and have a lot of potential and different from Thanos. I don’t need another “complex villain that is trying to save the world and is relatable and a anti hero” only for that villain to lose and their ideology isn’t explored enough in depth ||

    • @paveantelic7876
      @paveantelic7876 Před rokem

      people are beggining to realize that time travel and multiverse shit are not good for consistent storytelling

  • @colinmatzkows5839
    @colinmatzkows5839 Před rokem +24

    I really agree with your point about Kang dying in this film. When that happened I was like "oh... So this movie is nearly pointless then"?

    • @EclipseMints08
      @EclipseMints08 Před rokem +3

      Did you not see the post credit scene? There's three other Kangs that are clearly going to be more of a threat. You have to remember that the Kang that Scott killed was actually going to fight AGAINST those kangs. Scott literally killed the only hope outside of the avengers.

    • @moviereedviews
      @moviereedviews Před rokem

      @@EclipseMints08 I thought about that too. All other Kangs are mad now because they killed the exiled one. Why was he exiled? Because all those Kangs sure looked villainous.

  • @waleedkhalid4870
    @waleedkhalid4870 Před rokem

    Thank you for reminding me of "the core" the shot of Stanely Tuccie shouting "some hooow" 😂😂

  • @modifiedprogramjam4830

    Ur Owen Wilson was SPOT ON! Can we talk about that perfect impression more?! Maaaan!

  • @roelofm2904
    @roelofm2904 Před rokem +19

    7:36 , I know we're all talking about Jonathan Majors as Kang, but I would say this Owen Wilson impression here is on par with anything else ever

  • @ramdymarte
    @ramdymarte Před rokem +132

    No major characters dying was such a let down for me. I wanted that "Oh crap, we're actually screwed" feeling similar to the end of Infinity War (I know they're not on the same scale obviously). So this movie's happy ending felt a little out of place for me, I wanted it to feel a lot more uncertain than it did. I'm excited for more Kang though, I was rooting for him the entire movie 😂

    • @SirMandokarla
      @SirMandokarla Před rokem +3

      Yeah, can you imagine if Scott, Hope, and Hank had all died, Kang had escaped, and all that was left was Cassie to become Stinger and Janet needing to train her to lead the world against the threat she's now getting too old to face herself?

    • @kieranwatt1937
      @kieranwatt1937 Před rokem +3

      You do realise the infinity war ending, was for an AVENGERS MOVIE. AND IT WAS LITERALLY THE END OF THE STORY ARC they were telling? this is barely just beginning for Kang Dynasty/Secret wars. yall want every movie coming out to be IW/End game level of pay off, you're actually too spoilt. no patience, we waited 12 years for a massive pay off and you cant even wait 4-5 years without whining like babies

    • @ramdymarte
      @ramdymarte Před rokem +1

      @@kieranwatt1937 that’s why I said I know they’re not on the same scale. I was referring to the general feeling of uneasiness I felt at the end of infinity war, I wanted that here

    • @kieranwatt1937
      @kieranwatt1937 Před rokem +2

      @@ramdymarte you're not going to get it, cause this is an ant man movie. not sure why you expected that in this type of movie? what did you have this expectation on guardians 1 when we saw thanos for like 30 seconds sitting in his floating chair? i bet you didn't - cause in that movie too, all he done was sit and make threats but didn't kill anyone.

    • @ramdymarte
      @ramdymarte Před rokem +1

      @@kieranwatt1937 I definitely think I coulda got a similar feeling even if it’s just an Antman movie. I know it’s just an introduction to Kang but if they made him win or at least take out some major characters it woulda proved his power and threat that much more.

  • @davemitchell6967
    @davemitchell6967 Před rokem

    Great review as always and I was sharing a whiskey with you. Also, look up strangelets. If you thought it was weird for them to have water and light...bruh.

  • @14DAVEYO
    @14DAVEYO Před rokem

    I spit out my drink when you did the modok impression

  • @joshmargolis1424
    @joshmargolis1424 Před rokem +39

    The visual language from Star Wars was very effective at establishing Kang as a threat. Specifically, the force choking with his telekinetic gauntlets felt very Vadar to me.

  • @machodgdon
    @machodgdon Před rokem +12

    That Loki post credit scene was better than the movie

  • @WolfRamAndHart
    @WolfRamAndHart Před rokem

    I get where your coming from Jeremy on Kang v. Lang....but you got the thumbs up for The Core reference! I agree, underrated movie, and the French guy's motivations were inspiring....even though it was really Two-Face who spoke them.

  • @theduke651
    @theduke651 Před rokem +18

    I had HUGE Tron Legacy vibes from this movie. Clu using the disc to take him and his army out of the grid. Including a power up scene.
    Kang using his mcguffin to take him and his army out of the quantum realm. Including a power up scene.

  • @ryderls2729
    @ryderls2729 Před rokem +30

    I really expected Cassie or even Janet to get killed a bunch of times, hey Kang let them live when he had MANY chances to just kill them off. But nope... can't have anyone but the villain "die"

    • @chrishernandez5965
      @chrishernandez5965 Před rokem

      weak ass villain to. he’s very underwhelming as a big bad when he talked about conquering worlds and beating other avengers only to lose to ants. i don’t want to hear the variant excuse bs either i thought yellow jacket in the first movie is better then the villain here lol

    • @myoman1977
      @myoman1977 Před rokem +3

      @@chrishernandez5965 The biggest thing is show don't tell. Thanos showed. Kang told.

  • @gimmibox
    @gimmibox Před rokem +34

    At the very least I was hoping Hope and Scott was trapped in the quantum realm. But nope, somehow Cassie figured to buff her quantum radio into a portal.

    • @rafetizer
      @rafetizer Před rokem +12

      Cassie's superkid being set up for a tv series, no doubt.

    • @thatperformer3879
      @thatperformer3879 Před rokem +10

      @@rafetizer And then it’ll be Woke AF.

    • @dsmyify
      @dsmyify Před rokem +1

      Girl power!

    • @kdreamscosmos4279
      @kdreamscosmos4279 Před rokem +3

      @@thatperformer3879 she is gonna be the next she antman.. you know mcu is gonna be woke next.

    • @-ManLikeWills
      @-ManLikeWills Před rokem +1

      @@kdreamscosmos4279 Ant Woman or ANT person 🫠🫠🫠

  • @brianunger4089
    @brianunger4089 Před 11 měsíci

    Nice choice with the Lagavulin, good sir.

  • @entheospa4543
    @entheospa4543 Před rokem

    You made me want to open Disney+...thank you and damn you to movie hell, you smart, sharp, dapper trickster

  • @vSilentangel
    @vSilentangel Před rokem +23

    I ain’t gonna lie, Majors was good in the movie but, Kang was kinda underwhelming. He’s killed Thor & other Avengers before and couldn’t beat Antman here? He vaporizes people but he can’t vaporize our main characters when he shoots them? I was kinda thinking he’d take out… Hank (That’s his name right?) towards the end when the ants were closing in on him. Also, yeah I was hoping he’d take Antman out at the end or that Antman took himself out so Kang couldn’t escape like you mentioned in this video.

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Před rokem +4

      I always hated that as a kid.. watching people fire laser beams that just push people really far.. but vaporise others

  • @g.a.2997
    @g.a.2997 Před rokem +23

    Quantumania should have ended with Scott dying in a crater after Kang's last attack and Kang escaping. Showing that in this new phase, the everyman and comedian is dead. Could have marked a serious shift in the MCU storytelling.

    • @Peer165
      @Peer165 Před rokem +10

      They don't care about the story anymore. Ambition died with Downy Jr's Ironman and Endgame.

  • @danielvaega
    @danielvaega Před 5 měsíci +1

    That Owen Wilson impression made my week! 🤣😂

  • @lucci2hot
    @lucci2hot Před rokem

    Your Owen Wilson impression......MAGNIFICENT