@@mammutMK2 True. Less can mean a lot though. If there's a 0.0000000001% chance of explosion it would technically be less but practically improbable. I suspect whoever wrote it didn't want to be absolutist in case a future story explodes a tricorder.
Director: “Okay, we need you to act like you KNOW all these people from television recordings and you’re a BIG fan of them.” Actor: “…..I can do that!”
You could go on the TNG bridge in Vegas 24/7 20 years ago. It was a trip. I went on there drunk. You enter from a turbolift in the back from the left side of the screen. So you're standing where worf stands when u enter
And then you remember Ossyra from the the future. I know many fans hate discovery, but its canon, mainly because they used a TNG scene, so deal with it.
She literally told him she had an ancestor on an Orion science vessel that 'discovered the portal' not five minutes before he was portaled himself. He might not be CERTAIN that it's the right ship (she didn't give him a name), but he's not hedging on random chance here, he has good reason to believe blowing up that ship could disrupt the chain of causality that allows her to exist.
My initial reaction was to roll my eyes at the idea that a tricorder could explode. Then I remembered that it actually happened in the TOS episode "Arena."
Boilmer is figuratively all of us TOS fans. God, can you imagine joining Pike, Spock, and Uhura on the bridge of the Enterprise? Wouldn't you be giddy, too? This is such a great episode, exactly because it's all about fan service.
I'd beg my parents to let me stay up to finish original episodes when they aired, because bedtime on school nights was halfway through each episode. I was usually successful, but there were several episodes I didn't finish watching until they went into syndication years later. Of course, the main/only channels available were ABC, NBC, & CBS... and a few local UHF stations.
Saturday nights on FOX were my time with my dad. TNG was our jam. The original series was always on TV, but I was too young to get into the green girls. I’m glad they went further into Orion culture. (❤️ Tendi)
I loved that when Boimler pretty much asked the same thing earlier about there being Orion scientists, Tnedi pointed out "Who do you think built the Orion starships?"
And the reaction of the others is logical: Before Kirk it wasn't common to give space ships in a famous name heritage the registry number of the predecessor. And even then often the new registry number overcame an older one, like the NCC 1701-G, formerly Titan-A, or the Defiant-A, formerly the Sao Paolo. Even the NCC 1701-A was formerly the Yorktown. Most ships only get the new production number on their hull and before 2285 no ship did. That's why the Enterprise is the 1701, as it's the second ship after the Constitution in it's class. (And yes, there were some 16xx, but maybe that were another batch of connie-like looking ships but not inside the connie class itself, just as you have the Soyuz-class inside the Miranda line. Don't forget, in TOS they didn't yet thought about, how something might confuse in later canon)
@@acmenipponair True and also this ship was eventually destroyed in the movies so while Boimler could of seen it in a holodeck he would never of been able to step on the real bridge in a museum dockyard. Hell technically it was refit into the -A so it looks even more different then ships that probably still exist in his time. Basically like going back to WW2 and being on the bridge of a famous ship that sank.
One subtle thing I've been thinking about, Boimler called Ortegas a war hero. Everyone knows she was in the war, but nobody recognized her as a war hero. Maybe she isn't a war hero... yet.
Everytime Spock tries something new that everyone says would be good for him, like laugh at jokes, gets met with people being weirded tf out. That's someone with anxiety's worst nightmare. Maybe Vulcans have emotions they just have super bad social anxiety.
The canon is that Vulcan have such powerful emotions that they spend their whole lives exercising iron control over them , because emotion is dangerous. Spock isn't emotionless, he just comes from a culture that disapproves of expressing emotion in the same way most of our cultures disapprove of nudity, or open polygamy, or drug taking.
@@jmackmcneill Aside from the bit about drug-taking (I can't think of a single society that doesn't encourage the ingestion of at least some kind of recreational drugs), that's an interestingly accurate way to look at the Vulcans' perspective on emotion.
That's what my experience of autism is like! People SAY to just be more casual, but then they panic "Nooo!!! _Not LIKE THAT!!!"_ Yet when I try to get them to break down what their super-specific expectations are, they can't or won't do so. Usually because it's socialization that they internalized unconsciously. They don't like that I am more distant and flat, but that's to help them and protect me against them always flipping out. As someone who people wish would joke and smile more, yet they get always get creeped out, this is extremely relatable! The irony is that if they didn't react so strongly, I'd be much better practiced at it. So it would seem more natural to them instead of uncanny. I don't have any problem understanding emotions, what is missing is how people negotiate social contexts for emotions in communication. From my POV it looks like people are hyper-reactive and resort to affective bullying instead of deliberate communication.
@@voltijuice8576 It sounds like you’re describing “masking”. And if you’ve been masking your whole life, it definitely takes practice to “unmask”. Whether you’re surrounded by genuinely supportive people, or you’re trying not to give a shit. It’s weird not to know how you’d act naturally. For me, I’m always hyper vigilant to any subtle meanings to other people’s tone or word choice, and to how my own words or behavior could be interpreted. It’s even worse since the culture I grew up in was already communicated so indirectly.
@@jmackmcneillThing about spock, he half human, so for him not controlling his emotions feels wrong, but controlling them feel has wrong. He is in constant state of flux trying to balance his two sides. It why he does illogical stuff sometimes. It take him a long time to find a nice middle ground, it also why at times he feels like a outsider to humanity and vulcans.
It was never not canon, where are people getting that idea from? There have been references to both canons (Prime and Kelvin) in countless episodes of LD
@@ACtheLegend (when the show first came out LD alot of people didnt assume it was gonna be and thought it was mostly comedy/parody of like how the orville by seth mcfarlane was thats why i stated it that way.) *seeing this season of STNW made me realize just how canon it was so bit of fumble on wording but thats essentially what i was intending to mean by it.)
I like that if Boimler was not a known character we the viewer would not trust him at all. He acts just like a few other bad future actors from other shows.
I haven't watched Lower Decks and I was trying to figure out how someone managed to pass OC training and get to be an Ensign with such an unprofessional lack of self control.
@@rednaughtstudios Happens normally after a high demand for personnel is needed. Seems Starfleet has more ships and too few people to man them. Side note. Lower Decks is meant to be on insignificant ship in starfleet where f*** ups and nobodies serve and the story leads to how these people can still rise to the occasion in times of need.
@@rednaughtstudios that's exactly the Lower Deck spirit! Those cadets, trainees, and ensigns were simple life, act on instinct, and lack of self control.
@@rednaughtstudios to be honest, I don't think that the training at Starfleet will teach much more than the basics on how to use the systems etc. In 4 years you cannot learn much and the career ladder is especially made for the personnel to a. learn the technobabble stuff and b. to gain interpersonal skills. You don't see that much in the other shows, because most of the personnel is already since a decade or more flying on space ships. Especially outside of some one episode ensigns who then often get killed off in the same episode you don't get onto the -D without having served on other ships beforehand and promotion comes normally with changing ships (That's why Riker never wanted to be promoted, he wanted to take over the Enterprise from Picard and not get his own ship until the end of the 2270s.) So what you see on other shows, outside of maybe Ensign Kim on Voyager, is the senior crew, which has matured in their skills and personalities long before the first episode of that specific show. Which means quirks like the fanboishness of Boimler would have turned off. He is only 2 years on a spaceship and unlike Mariner he is one of those nerdy upcomings from earth, who never experienced all that stuff beforehand, so for him this is all a big experience, especially when he is shut into situations like being on the Enterprise without dash. Just imagine this: You are a big fan of a movie franchise, like Star Wars. And then George Lucas comes to you and says: Hey, want to play an extra in one scene on Tatooine? You wouldn't show it before the camera, but I'll bet inside of you everything would be super excited about seeing the sets and the main actors etc. Gladly the actors are used to this, so they will overlook that fanboishness or even enjoy it a bit. And it's the same here with Boimler: The Enterprise might not be THE most famous ship of Starfleet yet in Strange New Worlds. But it's already one of the most famous and so the crew understands, that for an ensign of the future it must be something special to see all that stuff in live action.
Boimler is every trek superfan. he finds excitement in even the most mundane of tasks, he freaks out over meeting starfleet superstars, he wants to be a captain, you name it. Name a trek fan who wouldn't be this giddy if they got to stand on the bridge, or even the bridge SET, of the Enterprise.
@@pearsegallagher9832 Actually there is.....Orions, especially in this time frame, are driven by Profit and control......tell me what a Time portal would be worth to any faction in the TOS timeframe?
@@pearsegallagher9832 At this timeframe the warp slingshot method of time travel wasn't known. Remember this form of Time Travel wasn't a thing until James T Kirk was the Captain of the Enterprise and it suffered from various downfalls. You couldn't accurately determine when you would arrive and secondly the strain on the Dilithium Crystals was immense....
@@TenmaStupidity ok but can we talk about have damn insane it is that its that easy to travelTHROUGH TIME, no wonder temporal agents almost never show up there probebly busy chasing teenagers running amuck
...How this mfer gonna logically laugh? It was how I would expect a Vulcan to "laugh" the second he realized a laugh was required for the situtation. Two percise ha-ha and a cutting off ha "see? I am laughing. I got it. Feel better human. laughing time is over."
It's a call back to the pilot episode of Star Trek TOS. It took place during the Strange New Worlds era. There is a scene in a flashback where Spock did smile at something.
Everything with Boimler in this is great. The only way they could get a trek fan in universe without somehow breaking the fourth wall. And it works so well because of how Boimler was built up through his own show. So everything here is perfectly in-character. And Jack Quaid just plays the role to the hilt here
I was very concerned about this episode- they pulled it off! This usually never happen been a trek fan since generations when my grandma used to send me vhs in the mail 8 wonderful hours trek. I’ve of course explored everything trek since. This show have been great and feels like more trek than any other new series. Thank you for the entertainment
2:14 Is the ship in a bottle a reference from Boimler back to TNG when Picard talked about building ships in a bottle as a child? Seems like the kind of thing Lower Decks would do, and Boimler...
Boimler's reaction would be similar to Mine if I was on the Bridge of the World War II's USS Enterprise (CV-6). She was one ship that should have never been scrapped.
Agreed we still have a bitter taste in the UK over the decision to scrape the Warspite, I’d give 10 years just to stand at her helm n feel the raw power of a battleship
Boilmer building a model of an Orion ship in a bottle... it's a TNG Picard reference when Picard mentions he built models of ships in a bottle when he was a boy.
Unfornatunally they have not found a good way to travel into the future fast. The Deep Freeze projects only works with frogs yet and the normal solution to get into the future will kill you in latestly 100 years (aging = going into the future in plot speed)
The first-person POV camera work is an amazing choice and a camera angle almost never used in Star Trek. Fan Boy Vision, to put the audience in Boimler's shoes as he sees all his childhood heroes up close and at work. If there is one thing Jonathan Frakes does better than anyone else, it's as a director of Star Trek episodes.
He’s the main(ish) character in the tv show The Boys. He was also in the shows Vinyl & Solos. He’s currently doing the voice of Superman in the new cartoon My Adventures With Superman, which is pretty good. He’s been in a few movies, too. Scream (2022&23), Rampage, Plus One, Tragedy Girls, Ithaca, Sea Oak, Aberrant, Logan Lucky, & the first two Hunger Games.
0:28 that light 'tripod' you see on the very right side is a spray painted white, DeWALT DCL079B 20V MAX cordless Tripod Light. I thought it looked so familiar, just not yellow. 😅
They really should make a remake of the movie innerspace. Jack has such a great comedic timing and well this was the movie that brought his parents together so...
Okay, so We've had Spock (Who showed up in Discovery earlier anyway) Uhura, Kirk and Scotty in SNW. If they show up in Season 3, who do think should play Sulu and McCoy?
Sulu was a staff physicist originally in TOS, he didn't become the navigator/pilot until later & McCoy didn't become the ship's doctor until after Kirk became captain. Doctor Boyce (played by John Hoyt) was the first doctor we see in TOS.
Whilst true, not only would that specific bridge look so incredibly stupid with today's cameras and such, it would also be way too small logically speaking. I admit, I do find some of thr updates to the bridge and interior of thr ship odd or annoying, but for the most part the bridge update is pretty damn good, though don't agree with the view screen being a giant window, makes absolutely no sense and it feels less like the Enterprise
@@thomasw4422 This is PIKEs Enterprise, not Kirks. Most likely before Kirk was send on his 5 year mission the Enterprise got a refit with a new bridge model. We don't know, why they then switched to a less flashy design, but maybe that was just en vogue then in the 2260s to build the space ships more minimalistic.
@@acmenipponair canon is that the refit for the 5 year Kirk mission had to fit a lot more crew, and cargo/rations/etc., in so some of the bigger spaces we see on Pikes Enterprise were repurposed.
“Explode, should I be worried?” “Oh. Just don’t pour any liquids on it and you would be fine. Keep it away from coffee especially, caffeine tends to make the boom bigger”
Imagine if Tendi had gotten throw in the past here. She'd definitely make the crew rethink current Orion knowledge.... and want to be rid of the future ensigns even sooner 😂
Gotta remember that the Universal Translator is translating what _everyone_ says into 21st century English for us. Or Spanish, French, German, Turkish, Mandarin, or whatever language you have your DVD or streaming service set to!
@@targetseeker The problem is more, that unlike the actors of Boimler and Mariner, the actress of our most likes Orion girl is quite small and wouldn't therefore not fit well into her LD role. That they used the voice actors of Mariner and Boimler for the real life movie has mostly to do with the fact that they look so much alike their LD characters.
@@acmenipponair they could probably give her high heels or do perspective tricks but i was going for the most absurd case of live action adaptation (can belugas wear uniforms with no problems?)
By this time Spock is 20 years old, I guess And maybe by Kirk's time is like in his 40s. I guess maybe it's a maturity thing because of how long they age so just maybe when he reached a 120 or whatever Hes like maturedand more Vulcan.
It's more than just normal maturation. In this season Spock has gone on a break from his fiance, and started a relationship with Christine. In the future, as mentioned later this season and in TOS, Christine leaves the ship, and Spock, for a fellowship with Roger Corby. Christine and Roger become engaged. This has not happened, but I believe Spock's fiance finds out about Spock and Christine. As a result she continues the 'break' and takes up with the man she decides to dump Spock for. The result is that Spock, as he decides to do in the lyrics for 'I'm the ex', behaves more and more like a regular Vulcan so that he eventually becomes the Spock we see in TOS and later. This is the Spock in all the history books and the Spock Boimler expects to see.
I remember in one of the TOS episodes that Spock was supposed to be about 90 years old, it may have been the one where the crew were rapidly aging & Bones had to find a cure. Similar the the TNG episode where Dr. Pulaski & members of a science colony had the same issue brought on by the aggressively overachieving immune systems of some children they were experimenting on.
I just love how I can repeat a line from a video I just watched, hahaha, isn't that the craziest thing ever? Did you see that too? That line? In that video we all watched? It's totally my favorite thing ever!
The funny thing is that, while they ARE scientists... they still approach to science LIKE pirates: They show up, steal the thing they want to study, and skedaddle. It's amusing that they break the stereotype by being scientists, but still FULFILL every single stereotype by being piratical anyhow. It is straight up a live-action Lower Decks episode complete with Lower Decks style writing.and jokes, did the guys who WRITE Lower Decks help write this episode?
"LIEUTENANT Ortegas" -- Boimler all but confirms she doesn't survive the finale because if she were promoted past lieutenant, Boimler wouldn't call her that.
"Explode, you say?" Kills me every single time. Babs is fantastic!
Remember when the Gorn locked on Spock’s tricorder and he had to toss it before it blew up? Arena.
@@merky6004 omg so it was also a deep cut? The SNW and LD writers are on a whole other level.
@forrestpenrod2294 czcams.com/video/9py5EdVJdbo/video.html. Yup they did indeed explode.
What concerns me more is "... ... ... less likely to explode"...so the exploding tricorder problem was never resolved
@@mammutMK2 True. Less can mean a lot though. If there's a 0.0000000001% chance of explosion it would technically be less but practically improbable.
I suspect whoever wrote it didn't want to be absolutist in case a future story explodes a tricorder.
jack quaid absolutely nails his performance as boimler here, and his enthusiasm is contagious
I love that we got a Boimler scream in the episode
I mean HE DOES VOICE HIM AS WELL... soo
well its him in the annimated version so why wouldnt he? lol
@@thornbottlevoice acting doesn’t always translate to physical acting. Jack does great at embodying his character
@carlymills871
Tawny's body expression however doesn't emit the same energy as her character.
Director: “Okay, we need you to act like you KNOW all these people from television recordings and you’re a BIG fan of them.”
Actor: “…..I can do that!”
Easy to do when the director is ALSO one of those famous television people (Johnathan Frakes, aka Cmdr Riker) =P
"Historical documents" you must have intended to say.
@@EmperorSteele And the fact the actor also voice the animated chracter and study his movement by watching pass episodes of said animated series.
@@andreasu.3546 Just like those poor people from the S. S. Minnow
I love that Boimler is trying to defend the Orions because of his friendship with Tnedi 😊
Also Tendi's great-grandmother was the science officer on that ship, so... yeah, it not being destroyed is a good thing for all parties involved.
You could go on the TNG bridge in Vegas 24/7 20 years ago. It was a trip. I went on there drunk. You enter from a turbolift in the back from the left side of the screen. So you're standing where worf stands when u enter
And then you remember Ossyra from the the future.
I know many fans hate discovery, but its canon, mainly because they used a TNG scene, so deal with it.
For all he knows, one of her ancestors could of been on that ship.
She literally told him she had an ancestor on an Orion science vessel that 'discovered the portal' not five minutes before he was portaled himself. He might not be CERTAIN that it's the right ship (she didn't give him a name), but he's not hedging on random chance here, he has good reason to believe blowing up that ship could disrupt the chain of causality that allows her to exist.
"What would come after the dash?"
Whole bunch of letters. You're gonna love it.
D is my fav:)
@@brentaughe7539 I bet it is
@@brentaughe7539E!
But dont wanna any Enterprise with a bloody A B C or D!
The B and C not so much. 🤷🏿♂️
M’Benga’s reaction when Boimler says the tricorder might explode 😂😂😂
Having the thing analyze itself causing an a.plifyibg feedback loop does this . 😊
My initial reaction was to roll my eyes at the idea that a tricorder could explode. Then I remembered that it actually happened in the TOS episode "Arena."
"We're gonna explode? I don't wanna explode!"
@@kurtsnyder4752Guess they were still on LiIon batteries at the time.
happened several times in the original series
Boilmer is figuratively all of us TOS fans. God, can you imagine joining Pike, Spock, and Uhura on the bridge of the Enterprise? Wouldn't you be giddy, too? This is such a great episode, exactly because it's all about fan service.
for which we are eternally grateful
Grew up with TNG, but TOS is my favorite. I agree, I'd be about as giddy as Boimler being allowed on that bridge.
I'd beg my parents to let me stay up to finish original episodes when they aired, because bedtime on school nights was halfway through each episode.
I was usually successful, but there were several episodes I didn't finish watching until they went into syndication years later.
Of course, the main/only channels available were ABC, NBC, & CBS... and a few local UHF stations.
Saturday nights on FOX were my time with my dad. TNG was our jam. The original series was always on TV, but I was too young to get into the green girls. I’m glad they went further into Orion culture. (❤️ Tendi)
@@SyzygyNoon My kid and I were big into Deep Space Nine :)
I love how M'Benga just says "explode, you say?" quietly to himself. Makes me die of laughter every time.
Not... explode with laughter?
When Pike tells Boimler to, "Stand right here." That sent EVERYONE back to their childhoods. 🤣
I get the impression that Jack Quaid wasn't even given a script, and Jonathan Frakes said "Just say what's on your mind."
JQ did ad lib "Riker" when he sat on Pike's saddle.....right in front of director Jonathan Frakes.
The best part is? THEY LEFT THAT IN!
Best move ever by the crew
The way Pike says “Do Orions have science vessels?” 🤨 so rhetorically is too funny haha
I loved that when Boimler pretty much asked the same thing earlier about there being Orion scientists, Tnedi pointed out "Who do you think built the Orion starships?"
@@darkmask5933 I love how progressive Star Trek characters are.
NCC-1701-Nothing 😂
I burst out laughing when I first saw this hahahaha
And the reaction of the others is logical: Before Kirk it wasn't common to give space ships in a famous name heritage the registry number of the predecessor. And even then often the new registry number overcame an older one, like the NCC 1701-G, formerly Titan-A, or the Defiant-A, formerly the Sao Paolo. Even the NCC 1701-A was formerly the Yorktown. Most ships only get the new production number on their hull and before 2285 no ship did. That's why the Enterprise is the 1701, as it's the second ship after the Constitution in it's class. (And yes, there were some 16xx, but maybe that were another batch of connie-like looking ships but not inside the connie class itself, just as you have the Soyuz-class inside the Miranda line. Don't forget, in TOS they didn't yet thought about, how something might confuse in later canon)
@@acmenipponair True and also this ship was eventually destroyed in the movies so while Boimler could of seen it in a holodeck he would never of been able to step on the real bridge in a museum dockyard. Hell technically it was refit into the -A so it looks even more different then ships that probably still exist in his time. Basically like going back to WW2 and being on the bridge of a famous ship that sank.
This crossover was pure genius. Love it.
One subtle thing I've been thinking about, Boimler called Ortegas a war hero. Everyone knows she was in the war, but nobody recognized her as a war hero. Maybe she isn't a war hero... yet.
“Stand right here” is literally what every parent has said to their kid.
Pike had soo many awesome reactions, glares looks throughout this episode!
He does disappointed dad so very well
Everytime Spock tries something new that everyone says would be good for him, like laugh at jokes, gets met with people being weirded tf out. That's someone with anxiety's worst nightmare. Maybe Vulcans have emotions they just have super bad social anxiety.
The canon is that Vulcan have such powerful emotions that they spend their whole lives exercising iron control over them , because emotion is dangerous. Spock isn't emotionless, he just comes from a culture that disapproves of expressing emotion in the same way most of our cultures disapprove of nudity, or open polygamy, or drug taking.
@@jmackmcneill Aside from the bit about drug-taking (I can't think of a single society that doesn't encourage the ingestion of at least some kind of recreational drugs), that's an interestingly accurate way to look at the Vulcans' perspective on emotion.
That's what my experience of autism is like! People SAY to just be more casual, but then they panic "Nooo!!! _Not LIKE THAT!!!"_ Yet when I try to get them to break down what their super-specific expectations are, they can't or won't do so. Usually because it's socialization that they internalized unconsciously. They don't like that I am more distant and flat, but that's to help them and protect me against them always flipping out.
As someone who people wish would joke and smile more, yet they get always get creeped out, this is extremely relatable! The irony is that if they didn't react so strongly, I'd be much better practiced at it. So it would seem more natural to them instead of uncanny. I don't have any problem understanding emotions, what is missing is how people negotiate social contexts for emotions in communication. From my POV it looks like people are hyper-reactive and resort to affective bullying instead of deliberate communication.
@@voltijuice8576 It sounds like you’re describing “masking”. And if you’ve been masking your whole life, it definitely takes practice to “unmask”. Whether you’re surrounded by genuinely supportive people, or you’re trying not to give a shit. It’s weird not to know how you’d act naturally. For me, I’m always hyper vigilant to any subtle meanings to other people’s tone or word choice, and to how my own words or behavior could be interpreted. It’s even worse since the culture I grew up in was already communicated so indirectly.
@@jmackmcneillThing about spock, he half human, so for him not controlling his emotions feels wrong, but controlling them feel has wrong. He is in constant state of flux trying to balance his two sides. It why he does illogical stuff sometimes. It take him a long time to find a nice middle ground, it also why at times he feels like a outsider to humanity and vulcans.
I love this show. The only weakness is that there are so few episodes per season. But with these production values that's to be expected. What a ride.
Love how Boims is scared he temporialy "broke" Spock. 🤓😎🖖🏻
Love the picard ships in a bottle reference
im so fuckin happy they did a crossover i love lower decks and the fact that it is becoming more and more canon to the series makes me happy.
It was never not canon, where are people getting that idea from? There have been references to both canons (Prime and Kelvin) in countless episodes of LD
@@ACtheLegend (when the show first came out LD alot of people didnt assume it was gonna be and thought it was mostly comedy/parody of like how the orville by seth mcfarlane was thats why i stated it that way.) *seeing this season of STNW made me realize just how canon it was so bit of fumble on wording but thats essentially what i was intending to mean by it.)
2:18 That look on Pike's face is absolutely priceless! Talk about the face that launched a thousand memes! 🤣
I love this episode . I hope the show continues for many more seasons in the future . Episode 7 of season 2 is phenomenal 🖖🖖🖖🖖 .
_"NCC-1701 dash... NOTHING"_ _"what would come after the dash"_ _SHRUG_ 🖖
They were both so good that I DEMAND thst they also be in a regular live action trek show.
Spock eventually found out just how well a classic tricorder can explode... Thanks to his old 'friends' the Gorn...
I like that if Boimler was not a known character we the viewer would not trust him at all. He acts just like a few other bad future actors from other shows.
I haven't watched Lower Decks and I was trying to figure out how someone managed to pass OC training and get to be an Ensign with such an unprofessional lack of self control.
@@rednaughtstudios Happens normally after a high demand for personnel is needed. Seems Starfleet has more ships and too few people to man them.
Side note. Lower Decks is meant to be on insignificant ship in starfleet where f*** ups and nobodies serve and the story leads to how these people can still rise to the occasion in times of need.
@@rednaughtstudios that's exactly the Lower Deck spirit! Those cadets, trainees, and ensigns were simple life, act on instinct, and lack of self control.
@@ixaldorran7867you summed up LD well. ❤
@@rednaughtstudios to be honest, I don't think that the training at Starfleet will teach much more than the basics on how to use the systems etc. In 4 years you cannot learn much and the career ladder is especially made for the personnel to a. learn the technobabble stuff and b. to gain interpersonal skills. You don't see that much in the other shows, because most of the personnel is already since a decade or more flying on space ships. Especially outside of some one episode ensigns who then often get killed off in the same episode you don't get onto the -D without having served on other ships beforehand and promotion comes normally with changing ships (That's why Riker never wanted to be promoted, he wanted to take over the Enterprise from Picard and not get his own ship until the end of the 2270s.)
So what you see on other shows, outside of maybe Ensign Kim on Voyager, is the senior crew, which has matured in their skills and personalities long before the first episode of that specific show. Which means quirks like the fanboishness of Boimler would have turned off. He is only 2 years on a spaceship and unlike Mariner he is one of those nerdy upcomings from earth, who never experienced all that stuff beforehand, so for him this is all a big experience, especially when he is shut into situations like being on the Enterprise without dash.
Just imagine this: You are a big fan of a movie franchise, like Star Wars. And then George Lucas comes to you and says: Hey, want to play an extra in one scene on Tatooine? You wouldn't show it before the camera, but I'll bet inside of you everything would be super excited about seeing the sets and the main actors etc. Gladly the actors are used to this, so they will overlook that fanboishness or even enjoy it a bit. And it's the same here with Boimler: The Enterprise might not be THE most famous ship of Starfleet yet in Strange New Worlds. But it's already one of the most famous and so the crew understands, that for an ensign of the future it must be something special to see all that stuff in live action.
I remember those exploding tri-corders. Fairly large grenades😊
They were developed by Samsung.
They should have incorporated Nokia shell.
@@thegrimmretails3777 No, samsung just doesn't work. The sony ones those..Like a gernade with its pin pulled.
Yeah samsung does a pop instead of a bang
Boimler is every trek superfan. he finds excitement in even the most mundane of tasks, he freaks out over meeting starfleet superstars, he wants to be a captain, you name it. Name a trek fan who wouldn't be this giddy if they got to stand on the bridge, or even the bridge SET, of the Enterprise.
Boimler, no touching the buttons
I guess the Orions wish to study the portal themselves... for science. 😀
i mean not much else to do with it
@@pearsegallagher9832 Actually there is.....Orions, especially in this time frame, are driven by Profit and control......tell me what a Time portal would be worth to any faction in the TOS timeframe?
@@TenmaStupidity just fly around a star
@@pearsegallagher9832 At this timeframe the warp slingshot method of time travel wasn't known. Remember this form of Time Travel wasn't a thing until James T Kirk was the Captain of the Enterprise and it suffered from various downfalls. You couldn't accurately determine when you would arrive and secondly the strain on the Dilithium Crystals was immense....
@@TenmaStupidity ok but can we talk about have damn insane it is that its that easy to travelTHROUGH TIME, no wonder temporal agents almost never show up there probebly busy chasing teenagers running amuck
2:18 lol that glare though
“I don’t f**king believe this!”
1:57 Bringing your nephew to work day
It's also great how the kept the general design of the Orion ship the same as we saw in Journey to Babel in the classic series.
...How this mfer gonna logically laugh? It was how I would expect a Vulcan to "laugh" the second he realized a laugh was required for the situtation. Two percise ha-ha and a cutting off ha "see? I am laughing. I got it. Feel better human. laughing time is over."
It's a call back to the pilot episode of Star Trek TOS. It took place during the Strange New Worlds era. There is a scene in a flashback where Spock did smile at something.
Everything with Boimler in this is great. The only way they could get a trek fan in universe without somehow breaking the fourth wall. And it works so well because of how Boimler was built up through his own show. So everything here is perfectly in-character. And Jack Quaid just plays the role to the hilt here
I was very concerned about this episode- they pulled it off! This usually never happen been a trek fan since generations when my grandma used to send me vhs in the mail 8 wonderful hours trek. I’ve of course explored everything trek since. This show have been great and feels like more trek than any other new series. Thank you for the entertainment
2:14 Is the ship in a bottle a reference from Boimler back to TNG when Picard talked about building ships in a bottle as a child? Seems like the kind of thing Lower Decks would do, and Boimler...
Huey! Good to have you aboard!😂
Or Randy Cunningham, who also has spiky purple hair.
Boimler's reaction would be similar to Mine if I was on the Bridge of the World War II's USS Enterprise (CV-6).
She was one ship that should have never been scrapped.
Agreed. Never should have scrapped The Grey Ghost. Too much history with her.
@@PorkinsTheWhite I was watching videos of her and her action on WW2. Very sad to hear what happened to her. Belonged in a museum, not scrap.
I went on the TNG bridge in vegas
Agreed we still have a bitter taste in the UK over the decision to scrape the Warspite, I’d give 10 years just to stand at her helm n feel the raw power of a battleship
"Let's make sure that History never forgets the name 'Enterprise'." czcams.com/users/clipUgkxYweQEVOy5ti2iuBftubE_ejXx2ZEf7xI
Boilmer building a model of an Orion ship in a bottle... it's a TNG Picard reference when Picard mentions he built models of ships in a bottle when he was a boy.
Makes me wish to want to visit every bridge of every famous starships of Star Trek.
Unfornatunally they have not found a good way to travel into the future fast. The Deep Freeze projects only works with frogs yet and the normal solution to get into the future will kill you in latestly 100 years (aging = going into the future in plot speed)
But some you wouldn't want to set foot on it
Like Borg ship or Klingon ship in TOS era and ofcourse Romulan ship
I'd be down for an Orion Hurricane with Lt Castillo
Listen, I know this Ferengi ensign who can get you a photo behind a bunch of the captains' desks if it's any consolation…
"your a war hero" arguably one of the most unsettling things he could of mentioned
"Wars not make one great, Hmmmm!"
Lt. Ortegas served in the war against the Klingons prior to be stationed on Enterprise.
I’d never seen lower decks and am a huge trekkor. This episode got me hooked. Soooooo good
Pike’s expression at the end is hilarious 😂
Every time Spock laughs , a puppy dies .
What comes after the dash?????
I love how M'Benga is calm and calculated, but a stone cold killer, all in one.
The first-person POV camera work is an amazing choice and a camera angle almost never used in Star Trek. Fan Boy Vision, to put the audience in Boimler's shoes as he sees all his childhood heroes up close and at work. If there is one thing Jonathan Frakes does better than anyone else, it's as a director of Star Trek episodes.
"What would come after the dash?"
🤣😂🤣😂
Everyone was having so much fun in this episode.
I love these collaboration. ❤
Congratulations Boimler. You managed to make Spock laugh. Not an easy feat.
1:00 - Also, chance is how humanity learned about the concept of gravity.
2:19 Pike’s face is hilarious. 😅😅😅😅😅he looks shocked or confused with those wide eyes.
Spock laughing is rather unnerving.
"BOIMGASM!!"
He’s actually a better live action actor than a voice over guy
Can we get him on a live series please
Maybe his clone?
He’s the main(ish) character in the tv show The Boys. He was also in the shows Vinyl & Solos. He’s currently doing the voice of Superman in the new cartoon My Adventures With Superman, which is pretty good.
He’s been in a few movies, too. Scream (2022&23), Rampage, Plus One, Tragedy Girls, Ithaca, Sea Oak, Aberrant, Logan Lucky, & the first two Hunger Games.
@@reidoha1066 had no idea… thanks
@@reidoha1066 He also plays Richard Feynman in Oppenheimer.
Imagine a Lower Decks movie. That would be so awesome
Less likely to explode, a reference to the Gorn back feeding Spoks signal, he had to yeet that trycorder and cover.
0:28 that light 'tripod' you see on the very right side is a spray painted white, DeWALT DCL079B 20V MAX cordless Tripod Light. I thought it looked so familiar, just not yellow. 😅
Jack quaid is great in everything he’s in I swear
Less likely to explode 😂
Explode, you said?
One of the Best epsoides of SNW :D
TBH one of the best episodes of all of Star Trek.
God. I. Love. this. Show!
Takes a lot to render me speechless but walking out on that bridge would do it!😮
i like that orion captain..err scientist hope we see him again
adding Boimler is probably the only thing that could make this show better.
Slight glitch in the yellow alert animation when the camera pans the viewscreen just after Boimler arrives on the bridge.
You guys Look very ... realistic!
😄
0:50 ded ass 🤣
That's our Boimler!!
Too bad Mr. Leonard Nimoy wasn't given some comedic roles, he had a serious guffaw, (if you watch the Star Trek 4 bloopers)
“Explode, you said?” 😂
Yo was that greg bryk aka Joseph seed?
One time! I think there was one time when a tricorder exploded! (TOS - Arena)
They really should make a remake of the movie innerspace. Jack has such a great comedic timing and well this was the movie that brought his parents together so...
So the Enterprise crew are fans of Boimler out of universe, while Boimler is a fan of the Enterprise crew in universe. The irony.
"What comes after the dash?" - La'an. Me - "Oh you know, A,B,C,D,E,F,G"
What comes after the dash ?
No bloody A, B, C or D
Okay, so We've had Spock (Who showed up in Discovery earlier anyway) Uhura, Kirk and Scotty in SNW. If they show up in Season 3, who do think should play Sulu and McCoy?
Sulu was a staff physicist originally in TOS, he didn't become the navigator/pilot until later & McCoy didn't become the ship's doctor until after Kirk became captain. Doctor Boyce (played by John Hoyt) was the first doctor we see in TOS.
“What would come after the dash?”
SNW is great really great
It's just not the same without the actual bridge, you know?
Whilst true, not only would that specific bridge look so incredibly stupid with today's cameras and such, it would also be way too small logically speaking. I admit, I do find some of thr updates to the bridge and interior of thr ship odd or annoying, but for the most part the bridge update is pretty damn good, though don't agree with the view screen being a giant window, makes absolutely no sense and it feels less like the Enterprise
They could at least get the colours right
@@thomasw4422 This is PIKEs Enterprise, not Kirks. Most likely before Kirk was send on his 5 year mission the Enterprise got a refit with a new bridge model. We don't know, why they then switched to a less flashy design, but maybe that was just en vogue then in the 2260s to build the space ships more minimalistic.
@@acmenipponair canon is that the refit for the 5 year Kirk mission had to fit a lot more crew, and cargo/rations/etc., in so some of the bigger spaces we see on Pikes Enterprise were repurposed.
“Explode, should I be worried?”
“Oh. Just don’t pour any liquids on it and you would be fine. Keep it away from coffee especially, caffeine tends to make the boom bigger”
Boimler saying that he built ships and bottles somewhere Picard is smiling.
Imagine if Tendi had gotten throw in the past here. She'd definitely make the crew rethink current Orion knowledge.... and want to be rid of the future ensigns even sooner 😂
Disappointed to hear that that far in the future they still say ' totally '.
Gotta remember that the Universal Translator is translating what _everyone_ says into 21st century English for us. Or Spanish, French, German, Turkish, Mandarin, or whatever language you have your DVD or streaming service set to!
@@daveh4334 Nope.
After watching this episode...I realized that Tawny Newsome is HOT!!!
what would come after the dash, lol
Hughey?
Can we see all the lower decks characters in real life now please?
Can the budget handle live action Matt and Kimolu?
@@targetseeker The problem is more, that unlike the actors of Boimler and Mariner, the actress of our most likes Orion girl is quite small and wouldn't therefore not fit well into her LD role. That they used the voice actors of Mariner and Boimler for the real life movie has mostly to do with the fact that they look so much alike their LD characters.
@@acmenipponair they could probably give her high heels or do perspective tricks but i was going for the most absurd case of live action adaptation (can belugas wear uniforms with no problems?)
@@targetseeker CGI whales. Or they just reuse the whale robots from Movie 4 :D
@@acmenipponair plus i think Shaxs would be hard to pull off.
Like a dorky Jet Reno
No captions.
boimler should have said ncc-1701 no abcde
he is like a bill hader clone
By this time Spock is 20 years old, I guess And maybe by Kirk's time is like in his 40s. I guess maybe it's a maturity thing because of how long they age so just maybe when he reached a 120 or whatever Hes like maturedand more Vulcan.
It's more than just normal maturation. In this season Spock has gone on a break from his fiance, and started a relationship with Christine. In the future, as mentioned later this season and in TOS, Christine leaves the ship, and Spock, for a fellowship with Roger Corby. Christine and Roger become engaged. This has not happened, but I believe Spock's fiance finds out about Spock and Christine. As a result she continues the 'break' and takes up with the man she decides to dump Spock for. The result is that Spock, as he decides to do in the lyrics for 'I'm the ex', behaves more and more like a regular Vulcan so that he eventually becomes the Spock we see in TOS and later. This is the Spock in all the history books and the Spock Boimler expects to see.
I remember in one of the TOS episodes that Spock was supposed to be about 90 years old, it may have been the one where the crew were rapidly aging & Bones had to find a cure.
Similar the the TNG episode where Dr. Pulaski & members of a science colony had the same issue brought on by the aggressively overachieving immune systems of some children they were experimenting on.
I just love how I can repeat a line from a video I just watched, hahaha, isn't that the craziest thing ever? Did you see that too? That line? In that video we all watched? It's totally my favorite thing ever!
Who hurt you
@@Erin_J_they didn’t get invited to the party they’d be no fun at.
The funny thing is that, while they ARE scientists... they still approach to science LIKE pirates:
They show up, steal the thing they want to study, and skedaddle.
It's amusing that they break the stereotype by being scientists, but still FULFILL every single stereotype by being piratical anyhow.
It is straight up a live-action Lower Decks episode complete with Lower Decks style writing.and jokes, did the guys who WRITE Lower Decks help write this episode?
Yes, very British.
Oh, look, if it aint Huey.
"LIEUTENANT Ortegas" -- Boimler all but confirms she doesn't survive the finale because if she were promoted past lieutenant, Boimler wouldn't call her that.
Oooor he's familiar with the era he's in & knows that they just ended the Klingon war.
@@CamDempsey-lq1nr Boimler asked someone who should be known by everyone "Are you Uhura?".
Come stand here
..😂😂😂😂😂