The NBA Team That Was Crazy Enough To Full Court Press
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In 1997, Rick Pitino was hired to be the coach of the Boston Celtics. He brought a trapping full court press defense to force turnovers, with players such as Antoine Walker, and soon Paul Pierce. I breakdown the press, how it fared, and also what the press looks like today in the hands of coaches like Nick Nurse.
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If I learned anything from 2k it's that a full court press is an easy bucket or foul.
Not in real life lol Sure can lead to easy buckets, but a good intense full court press can, against certain teams, shut down the opponent completely for a few possessions. Can't do it for too long though as it takes a toll physically
@@mcfuckinanotheraccount808 it does work against teams with few poor playmaking or very predictable offenses. I was mostly making a joke.
@@anthonynorman7545 ah ok, my bad mate
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you just dont know how to play defense i lockup with the full court press or even trap
Man, keep making videos about historic strategies like these. It would be interesting a video about Phil Jackson's triangles strategy, and why it failed nowdays.
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Floor is too spaced out for the triangle to work these days. Teams like to run and gun. Majority of teams don’t set half court offenses. They wanna collapse the defense and kick out to a 3
@@BarryAllen-so8rz the warriors under kerr use a crap ton of things that are obviously took from the triangle
@@_gamepoint_ the warriors are one of the few teams in the league who regularly use complex schemes. They borrow from the triangle but they mix other systems along with it. There’s a weird misconception that all they is shoot 3s.
Warriors, Celtics, Toronto, Miami. Great coaching.
The Knicks tried running a pure triangle system with melo and it didn’t work. With went there they tried it again. Failed. The triangle has been successful with 2 players at the league level Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. The triangle is overrated.
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1. There is no team that runs a pure anything. Any and every NBA offense is going to have a base idea/philosophy and set and they will branch off to other things.
2. Something failing with the knicks is not an indicator of it's league wide viability. The Knicks, putting it midly, sucked. An aging melo being the best player on your team with a bunch of guys who were not very good were not making any offense work.
3. The Bulls were just fine in 94 runbing the triangle without MJ.
4. Shaq also won while being the best player on a team who primarily runs the triangle.
5. The bulls were running a lot of triangle stuff when Tom Thibodeau was there at the very least after the D rose injury and they were routinely in the playoffs and winning around 50 games a year.
It is a misconception to think that the triangle is outdated. Again the Warriors use their own variant of it with Draymond(and bogut when they had him) as the passer and Steph and Klay screening for each other in split actions to put defenses in bad spots that give up threes.
This was ahead of it's time because truth be told, a lot of guards back then had suspect handle.
Serious I concur, the press was heavily in vogue in the mid to late 80s when dribbling as less advanced. Dribbling has improved, rendering it less effective n the modern professional game
The clips of Pitino at 6:20 show me that he really wouldn’t look out of place in a mafia movie
Love the throwback analysis like this Coach even for a team as mediocre as the Pitino coached Celtics
Hope u have more in the store like this now that its the offseason
2:34 lol, look at the news line
www.google.com/amp/s/www.chron.com/sports/rockets/amp/Rockets-Landry-on-shooting-I-could-have-been-1749585.php
Hahahahahahah
@SHOWer-oke I was thinking that too, how long has he been a prospect lol.
Shoutout that '96 Kentucky team that was on that Boston squad with Walker, Mercer and McCarty.
The press was lethal at Kentucky because that team was so loaded on talent and athleticism. Add the fact that the college schedule allowed for more rest and rather easy matchups along the way, and you had a juggernaut that suffocated you on every pressing opportunity.
I noticed the Lakers using a “zone press” and/or a “transition press” in Game 6 vs Miami. I’d have to study it more, but I think it depended on the matchups. Or maybe not. Part of the Lakers tactic seemed to be keeping it unpredictable-more often they’d haul ass and have their defense set up before the Heat could put together a play.
Possible the Celtics became too predictable and it wasn’t hard for teams to adjust to it after the first year.
Coach spo and vogel battled in the ecf before. They were def in a coaching chess match defensively. Hopefully spo gets another superstar bc he is up there with carlisle and pop as top coaches right now.
I feel like the Knicks should try this style next season
They gotta try something
Why not
Knicks players would be redshirted in no time.
I feel like the Knicks should retire 🤣
@@KiddsWorldEntertainment Some players try dont like it, players might start becoming unhappy with the coaching. In not saying they definitely shouldnt but it's a reason why the might be hesitant
This video reminds me why writing essays for school is useful. Dude really has an intro, body paragraphs, and conclusion with real data. Makes me smile
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are you still making videos once the season starts back up?
Imagine pressing over the course of an 82-game season
Nice video coach.
Where this man go
Loved this video Daniel, really interesting. Hope you keep up more videos with this style since we probably won't get any NBA games till January!
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The press works depending on your personnel and how physical the refs allow you to be. You have to have certain players that enjoy defense and have a natural feel when to trap, gamble, and recover.
Great storytelling mixed with statistical analysis! More content like this please
When will these guys realize that Pro sports is significantly different than college sports?
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Got a job with the Mavericks
Whatcha been up to, Daniel? Missing your player breakdowns. Need some Richaun Holmes love!
when are you coming back?
"They come to watch me coach" LOL
If you pointed to the guy selling Hotdogs and told me he was the coach I would believe you. Crazy.
Hope to see breakdowns about this season soon
That Raptors game was a great game best come back in franchise history. Great content coach
Where did you go? I miss your videos, you make great content!
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Pitino learned NBA defense from watching me play NBA Live 95
Nice vid coach, thank u
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Awesome video!
I think that if they have 2 guys pressing on their basket, and 2 at half court for a half court press, and one at their opposing basket, that would be a lot better. You could see that the person receiving the inbound would rush a pass to somebody at half court, or blow by at the half. If they have 2 guys at mid court, it forces the inbounder to run and try to get the ball, which just works a lot more efficiently, and won’t give up buckets as much.
it definitely makes an impact if you also have the personnel for mismatches. Raps trotted it out in the regular season using their long limbed forwards/wings and with timely presses it is tricky to get around those long hands. For the Lakers it made sense too not only pressing to decrease the opponents' shot clock but to get their half court match ups right as AD patrolling the perimeter is nasty enough.
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Awesome video :)
Great vid. Great breakdown. It's definitely better on lower levels. We dominated for two years in middle school because of this. But pros are pros for a reason. Thanx.
Aye coach d, it’s been a while. I definitely understand if you’re taking a break, but if you need a video idea, I think a good one would be a video on Bam Adebayo’s impact
He might just be waiting for the season to start
When Pitino coached Kentucky, his press destroyed many a college team. That Kentucky team destroyed the Tim Duncan Wake Forest team. Greatest defensive game ever seen by me.
Great video m8
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Hey wassup coach! Would love to be to see u break down some film of Mike James of the Brooklyn Nets, he’s highly skilled and seems to always make the correct play on offense
great vid
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Hey bro!! We are still waiting for the Lakers Game 6 OR a full finals series defensive breakdown what worked and what didn't etc.
back in hs, we used to always do full court trap
You didn't mention it but almost a decade earlier Pitino coached the New York Knicks from 87 to 89 where he also ran the full-court press to excess on a team with Charles Oakley and Patrick Ewing! The first year there were injuries galore and they finished with a very poor record however the second and last season Pitino coached NYY they actually had around a 63% winning percentage but luckily someone in the front office though "Hey we have Ewing and Oakley maybe we shouldn't try to make each game a track meet!" I actually never thought he would ever coach another NBA game again.
Nick Nurse deploys this sometimes. He used a full court press for the historic comeback win against Mavs last season.
I will always remember when Larry Brown pressed Lakers in game of the NBA finals. It worked really well. But that was it.
Imagine pressing against NBA calibre players on all 82 games. Sounds like a pretty bad idea. Too many risks than rewards.
It's better if they do this in the playoffs instead. It's more/less just a gimmick if some teams did this in the regular season. Risk outweighs the reward.
NBA players are so smart and skilled they will break the press and that's why many teams don't press.
I remember this!
The headline on the bottom (Carl Landry, shot in the leg, failed robbery) out 1-3 weeks...i have so many questions
Wya Coach??
I think they way to make the most of it is by having a very young, deep team.
But then again, if you have that kind of team you want to tank to get draft picks so not much sense in tiring yourself out doing this
I wanna know what were the 1978 Hawks doing
Haha, same.
Wasn't Hubie Brown their coach then?
Read the ticker at the bottom of the screen at 2:33.... Can you do a video on that?
"shot in the leg, failed robbery"
Why press is useful is because in tight situations you are applying pressure, but you need to pitch in more defensive actions to keep enemy guessing. I guess, he was just so fixated in press to prove that is a new defensive go-to-action in the NBA.
I love full court press
Am I wrong if I said that he had some good talents, and instead of developing them he decided to use this tactic to squeeze some short term wins?
100% agree
Yeah I agree
Having lived through that short term Pitino era, I wholeheartedly agree. He didn't know what kind of player Billups was going to be and decided to flip him for an unmotivated Kenny Anderson. He wanted Antoine Walker to play like a traditional PF who muscles in the mid range and can get points in the paint. But Walker's pro game was vastly different being more on ball, playing from the perimeter and never shying away from a 3-point shot that was never bad to him. Plus he traded for some lumbering big name Vitaly Potapenko who was just a dude who can take up space inside. That is the problem when you give a coach like Pitino GM responsibilities. The roles can overlap and the GM tries to produce an ideal roster he 'thinks' he can coach but nobody is ever there to check him for his personnel mistakes.
His biggest problem is the problem a lot of successful college coaches have. He valued guys he thought would fit his system over talent. Similar to Doug Pederson when he got to the Eagles.
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What software do you use?
Adobe premiere pro
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Jevon Carter of the Phoenix Suns presses every possession and I believe it made us better defensively
This is very effective in NBA Live, if stamina effect is off
The 90s Bulls from the first threepeat would press and trap a lot. It worked pretty well.
That's because the game was slowly phased back then. Can't really do it nowadays.
You should make a long video about how really good NCAA superstar coaches are. Am I wrong if I say that there are much more incredible failures, like Pitino, than success, like Stevens, when these guys go outside the NCAA?
No you wouldn't be wrong because it is a totally different landscape. Super complicated schemes don't rule the college game because of the lack of preperation time in comparison to pro leagues.
General line of thinking is that college coaches wash out in pro leagues because they can't adapt their scheme or connect with grown athletes. Pro coaches wil often wash out in college because they'll have 100 different plays and their players won't know a single one while being unable to motivate what essentially are still kids.
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Do Justin Winslow defense please
I think pressing makes more sense in the NBA if only take an extra 4 to 6 seconds off the shot and clock, perhaps longer for offense to get set.
Goodluck making LeBron or Harden press in defense.
@@s_ame1135 the idea isn't necessarily to force turnovers, Just to take time off the clock.
You capitiluze on the mistakes the offense gives you, but it's still reserved in aggressiveness.
Even a low effort half court or 75 press would accomplish this.
So it could work on a team with a Harden or Lebron in theory. Worth trying.
It's not good to use the Press against a great playmaker like LeBron.
@@castilloricky85 The idea is more about wasting time than it is about forcing turnovers ...
www.82games.com/clock.htm
old link, yes. I doubt much has changed.
I reckom if you have a quick ballhandler just get him to 1-2 from the inbound and he can run it up the court
Well at least it was interesting to look at, nothing boring about it.
Imagine being the Celtics , having to run up and down and following ur man
In my kiddie league we went undefeated running a full court press it's really fun if the whole team is involved
i really wanna know how that turns out lol
Pressing for strategy at times works. Just not too much.
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Good! Update coming soon sorry for the delay
@@coachdaniel8163 heey, it's nice to know you're good. No rush with the updates, just checking in👌
You skipped the Bulls under Phil and Pitinos first Knicks teams a!so Seattle under Karl
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Coach Daniel, Are you retiring from CZcams? (IMO, you should be an actual coach.)
Is true the banned full court press I'm NBA? I thought it is not allowed anymore due to rule change
no
myan-to-myan defense
if u look at eurloeague, almost every team does a full court press, and it seems to work to take time off the clock. Probably doesnt work as well in the NBA cause ppl are more athletic and the defence isnt as disciplined as in europe.
I had a high school coach that would gas his starting 5 by full court pressing all game long. Nothing worse than watching your team have no energy in the final 5 minutes of the game.
so Brett Brown is basically Rick Patino
"F Carl Landry (Shot in leg, failed robbery)" WTH was that injury update?
2:36
my team actually uses this kinda trap
How do you defeat full court press taht shit pisses me off when we play in high school
like full court basketball isn't tiring enough already
And he was the coach of the Knicks
Really hard to press in the nba
Basically Chino Hills
Pitino overcoached those guys. He felt he had no choice. His team was too young. He should have kept both Billups and Mercer. With Walker and Pierce all they needed was a solid center (Wallace) to take them to the finals and maybe beat the Lakers.
You can't run a full court press every game, all game, in the NBA man.. What was he thinking lol 81 game season, can't do that shit
Probably just letting his player fill up their stat sheet to get them paid since their a lottery team
@@mark-one6511 nah. That's exactly how Pitino teams played in college. They along with Nolan Richardson's Hogs loved to press to speed up stuff. It was very unorthodox for the time
@@_gamepoint_ True. It's unorthodox in the NBA because they're professionals and won't fumble the ball in pressure like this most of the time. If anything, it's an easy fastbreak for elite players then and especially nowadays. Full court press is just a school-level strategy anyway.
I mean Pitino came from the college ranks and was wildly successful. So he was able to sell his idea to the Celtics then (definitely didn't have the smartest owners/FO then) and managed to sucker them in to giving him a contract AND giving him a GM role. Much like his role in college where he helped recruit AND coach his own guys. Doesn't work in the pros like the NBA.
The clippers could've run this as they have a good defensive team.
Problem Child AKA The Truth The Clippers trying to press against the Lebron or Giannis for the majority of a game would not end well. More dunks than an All-Star game.
@@danbrown1344 🤔🤔🤔idk about that Beverly is known to full court press PGs anyway, then you have PG and Leonard who play passing lanes really well, I think they would be best built to do it. Whether they would or not is a different story
@@mrmete The problem is, Leonard and PG still have to score on the offensive end. They'll be exhausted more than ever if they implemented that strategy. It's a whole another story if they have other elite defenders to substitute for Leonard and PG but they don't.
@@mrmete They couldn't even play elite half-court defense against a motion-oriented offense like the Nuggets over 7 games. Pressing would get them in more foul trouble so now they have to work harder with less on the offensive end. It's just not smart. Pretty much every team has situations in which they press, but no one is pressing even for the majority of a game.
Perhaps Pitino didn't realize that it's a helluva lot different when you are coaching people earning more money than yourself. Watching the the bubble playoffs this year made it evident (to me) that teams can't rely heavily on any specific defensive strategy. They may prefer to press/zone/man but they would be more successful mixing things up.
Bry BB The IQ at the NBA level
Is just different. As you said, mixing up keeps the offense guessing and spending a lot of time reading the defense instead of just forcing mismatches. If you keep using the same press all game all season, it’s not going to be that difficult for teams with the right level of talent and IQ to counter it.
@@danbrown1344 Yup, that was pretty evident this year, wasn't it? The Heat is a prime example. Also, I think the past decade or two reveals to us that no coach nowadays can have a bigger ego than his players. They have to get players to buy into the system, the culture, and/or the philosophy. They can't just throw their weight around (especially because their weight depends on their results).
This lookin like 2k defense
1990-1991 Nuggets pressed more then anyone
Westhead did this 7 years earlier
Somewhat early coach