[823] Disc Detainer Pick Build (Part 1) - Featuring BosnianBill
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- čas přidán 22. 01. 2019
- Here are links to all videos in this series:
Part 1 - The pick body (LPL) [ • [823] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 2 - The control knob (BB) [ • (1434) Disc Detainer P... ]
Part 3 - The tensioning “nose” (LPL) [ • [825] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 4 - The tensioning handles (BB) [ • (1436) Disc Detainer P... ]
Part 5 - The pick tip (LPL) [ • [827] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 6 - Final assembly and presentation (BB) [ • (1438) Disc Detainer P... ]
The birth of that ever so legendary phrase: "The pick that BosnianBill and I made."
Almost like "scratches at level 6 with deepeer grooves at level 7"
Exactly why I clicked the video lol
666th like! Boom!
No doubt! This is the legit origin story of what is probably his most iconic tool. It's like reading the origin of the Batmobile.
Very sad he has now retired
Bill: I want it to be easy.
LPL: I want it to be PRETTY.
So, I'm guessing Mrs. bosnianbill and Mrs. lockpickinglawyer are talking about how their ice cream keeps being locked away?
PhD Executive and how they just keep cutting a hole in the lid...
... and don't forget trying to defeat the liquor bottle combo locks (Bill's father-in-law's, I recall). Ice cream and brandy is a delicacy! 🍧🍷👌
And how their husbands keep showing their beavers on camera.
@@adamwest8711 the bottom.
Why does it not surprise me that LPL is also a machinist. A man of many talents!
Something that might be useful that LPL and Bill might know about or not: You know that silky smooth, high precision feel of the controls of optical instruments? That feel is achieved with damping grease.
I never realized disc detainer picks and the ISS looked so similar as concept drawings
Jaakko Fagerlund had a blog but last input is from 2015
haittalevy.blogspot.com/
And the ABUS plus lock pick
haittalevy.blogspot.com/search/label/tiirikka
He does safe cracking these days , he complained that 2015 LockCon in USA was too expensive for him .
Plot twist: The ISS is designed to pick alien ships
I blame the Lagavulin 16
Ah, the good old days, when "the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made" was simply "the pick that Bosnian Bill and I are making"
I wonder if LPL is wearing a mask so bill can’t see his face ....
I wonder if Bill is wearing one too.
😃
John Lee Pettimore III we better stay away from that Copperhead Road. ;)
They're wearing their theives guild hoods.
Lmfao
John Lee Pettimore III - I hope it’s not that freaky shuna sassi looking thing LPL was wearing the other day....
May I suggest heat treating and annealing your tension nose? That would make your new pick basically bullet proof.
Fear not... we’re on it. 👍
Excellent!!
@@THR33STEP do you mean tempering? I would not suggest annealing any machined steel that you want to prevent from deforming. Annealed steel is relatively very soft.
Btw - both annealing and tempering are just a form of heat treatment.
Yeah you don't want those bullets breaking your pick
Harry & Bill's Lock Picking Gone Wild.
Don't know if we really want to see them get their gear off.
15:19 Bosnian Bill; "We spent an hour...." I indignantly hollered this a my folks one day at age 6 in Davis, Ca. They STILL take the piss out 25 years later!
This series was amazing to watch, I've seen you using the special tool in some videos and it always looked so complicated to a non-hobbyist like me. Seeing each piece made individually and how they fit together, makes it so simple to understand. Clever things.
Keep "Right to Repair" in mind. (So every part can be removed and replaced.)
No worries... the Mechanical Engineer in me (as well as my tendency to break crap) guarantees replaceable parts. ALL of them.
Bill took the words out of my mouth... the fun part of having machine tools is that everything is a replaceable part!
Bill's inner engineer kicking in during the design on paper phase. Can't think of two better guys to design and build such a pick, looking forward to this!
That is so great, collaborating between the two of you! This is a money maker should you both sell them. I will be a customer for sure!
Discounts for subscribers 😉
Well finally today you can get it
@@sapphicaswell9066 ...and it's sold out. Price is currently $1,000,000USD until they get more and it becomes $45USD.
Oh, a Lagavulin 16. Nice choice!
I thought you were talking about the lathe 🤣
Indeed! Yet I prefer the glenlivet :)
My fav
Three things.
#1 , use a live center when using a cutoff tool.
#2 , use a steady rest while center drilling.
#3 , move the markings closer together as most disc detainer locks have much thinner discs inside.
You can purchase aircraft length drill bits that are extremely straight and won't bend. When soldering or brazing the pic tip, insulate the drill bit to keep from annealing the drill, making it flexible. Otherwise, tig welding tungsten electrodes make good straight rods and are available in diameters from .040" to what I guess you'll need of 1/16".
my little lathe doesn't have a steady rest yet, if this was my project I think I would have changed the order of operations and drilled first then moved the rod stock out for the turning.
You guys should go and drink their wine and show them how to get it spot on 😉
You can't part off when a center is there, as the part has nowhere to go when it parts off. Sure you can start with that, but can't finish and take an unneccessary flying-parts-risk.
Center drilling doesn't need steady rest on such workpiece (lenght/diameter ratio low), as it doesn't bend under its own weight nor does the drill exert radial forces to the part to twist it.
Something tells me the "pre intro activities" involved some good whiskey 👌
My two favorite lock-pickers... excellent! I haven't even hit play yet, but I can already tell I'm going to love this. Plus, it's not every day you get a LPL video that's almost 20 minutes long!!
I wished I had one of those pics no experience only been traditional would love to learn but can't afford like most make my own tools love watching you both she put the videos
necessity is the mother of invention...these two saw a need and fulfilled it.
Anyone concerned about the unusual length, give this a shot. The whole thing was fascinating. For sure will be watching the Friday part 2 (First time I will be watching bosnianbill after hearing people talk about him for months).
I knew it, these two were roommates the whole time.
Love the new video transitiins and team effort
Watching the two of you work together is like getting a box seat on genius. Brilliant collaboration!
So this is where it all started.
The pick BosnianBill and I made!
Two years ago, and now I have one. Thank you both very much.
That was the finest example of drunken machining I’ve ever seen! So far, with one attorney and Bill’s time, we have a $300.00 tool. And we’re off to the races!
Oh man. Two of the best lock pickers in the world working together. People bolt down your valuables 🤪
Fantastic video, was wondering where Bosnian Bill's video was today until I watched this. Really looking forward to to the next video.
Bill has a video also... there was a CZcams glitch today that prevented new videos from appearing. 😡
Another channel I watch was complaining that his new videos weren’t uploading like they were supposed to!
An hour of work. And I am already seeing a pick I want to buy. Elegant form.
Great video! The Silver Bullet disc detainer Pick from HuxleyPig is by far the best. It picks every disc detainer lock I've ever heard of except a small few locks like the latest Abus Granite and some of the Abloy locks.
It’s an excellent tool-probably the best made. But unfortunately, all that beautiful hand work comes with a high price. I’m sure it’s worth every penny, but it’s out of the reach of most hobbyists.
@@lockpickinglawyer Very True! Also, I was the guy that sent you a video about the Kwikset Gen3. I would love your analysis of this almost unpickable lock. I would even consider sending you one if it means you'll research it. There is another expensive tool that I've considered buying sort of on these same lines that is a Kwikset decoder. The Gen3 appears to be decodable but not pickable. Not without tension on the sidebar and some models of Gen3 won't fit a shim down the side.
My point is the decoder is another very expensive tool, but due to how ubiquitous these locks are would be very valuable for lockouts.
I really enjoyed your prior collaboration with the Not So Naughty Locks but this takes the cake. Both of you two really work well together and it's great to see you tackle real issues.
Laguvalin and my 2 favorite lock experts. Perfection.
Knowing you both, it looks like a new Sparrows tool will be forthcoming as you guys perfect it.
Such a match made in heaven lol they sound like they’ve been friends for decades.
Fantastic idea you two guys putting your heads together like this to come up with something new for disc detainer locks, can't wait to see how it all turns out.. Much appreciated guys ;-)
I'm absolutely loving these collaborative videos!!!! Why watch only one of my favorite locksport content creators at one time when I can watch them both!!!!!
I love the idea of more collaborations between you two! I think it's fairly safe to say that the vast majority of subscribers to either of your channels subscribe to both and with the 2 of you working together, the entire lock-sport community is sure to benefit even more.
Nice whisky! One of my favorites. Also, thanks for the entertainment!
Wow. Having seen this tool in use, it's cool to see how you guys came to the decisions you did. Well thought out!
this video isn't in my subscription feed?? what's up with that
A CZcams snafu... sadly, this video didn’t go out to most of my subscribers. ☹️
aw damn
@@lockpickinglawyer That's a huge shame, because this was indeed great stuff to watch!
its in my feed
I have LPL on notifs which is why I noticed it disappearing from my sub feed in the first place.
Let’s hope Sparrows picks the finished product up and sells it to the masses.🤞
This is such a great video! I'm excited for the next episode!
Excellent, gentlemen, thank you. There is a definite need for this collaborative effort. Can't wait for the next vid.
Great job on a new series. I like the teamwork on designing a new tool plus the workmanship is exquisite!
I love everything about this new project and collaboration! I'm feeling a bit nostalgic, remembering my youth and engineering classes; machining, turning, welding and casting to tight tolerances. So many hours spent, so much material wasted in trial-and-error. It was all worth the blood and sweat to see a finished project. Thanks for the memories.
I also love Bill's drawing style. For a moment, the sketch looked more like a new spy satellite 🛰 than a tool. 😎👍 Fantastic lathe, btw, and excellent workmanship. I'm looking forward to the whole series...something to download and keep to binge watch on rainy days. 👏
Something so great is about to happen!!!!!! great design Bill and L.P.L.lookig forward too part 2.Thanks for great video.🌟⭐🌟⭐🌟
love the collaboration between my two favorite lock pickers. looking forward to seeing the finished product
i love you guys working together! i get almost as much fun from making tools as i do using them. i don't have the equip to do this build but i'm enjoying watching the two of you do it! keep it up!
The TOP of the TOP would be a collaboration with This Old Tony, all 3 together. Please, Lord Jesus, make it happen 😁
I saw this once before a couple of weeks ago and now it's starting to set in. Really great ideas that you're coming up with, both you and Bill should be proud.
Video idea pick a master lock no3 every time you pick it take a shot until you can't pick it or have drank a dangerous amount
New rule if you do this you have to single pin pick it
youd die before you were unable to open that thing lol
Maybe still be entertaining
@@unkn0vvnmystery Yeah you would probably be too drunk to get the lid off a bottle of vodka before the master lock gave you any trouble.
Liam Dunnett who said it would be vodka?
@@unkn0vvnmystery other drinks are available
I seriously think you guys should do more of this. Thank you. Both of you.
Very awesome video guys ,looking forward to watching the rest of the the process you guys went through!
Great series! Keep m coming ✌️
Gorgeous work!
It's functional, beautiful... Man
Great work.
Love this thanks so much for this collab - incredible. This is, the lock picking, lawyer.… and Bosnian bill! A dream come true.
Nice teamwork and also a comfortable chat all the way through. Love the looks of this. :-)
I have never picked a lock in my life... but I ordered "the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made" just so I can own one.
The 3 people who disliked this video is the entire staff at master-lock who work on making good locks. They automatically come every video.
Rob L Since when does Master have staff interested in making good locks?
@@RealWorldPolice Good point!
High precision! can't wait for the next episode
Awesome co-LAB-oration. It's e to see you both doing videos together.
I have been waiting for t!his sort of thing from you for awhile now. Thanks
My two favorite educational content providers I’m excited to see the results of your collaboration
I feel like I'm witnessing the birth of a legend here.
I really enjoy the long video! And always nice to see some collaboration! Excited to see what you two end up with
Slick. That one part conceived and machined in 1 hour is pretty good.
Lol nice, gettin hammered with Bill! You guys are my 2 favs!
Cool idea guys. The prototype looks awesome. Keep up the great work.
Thats the best thing you guys could do!!you are the perfect match,both of my favourite lock picker and youtube channel togheter!but the most important thing you did was the construction of the tool it self!i am a machinist so adding the mill and lathe on this video was completely Amazing!!in this way you re gonna have a completely different group of follower on this channel if you keep doing videos on tools making!GREAT!!
I'm so jealous of your tools, I've wanted to do this for so long but I don't have a machine shop. That being said that thing is gorgeous ❤️❤️❤️! Good job gentlemen!
Love the collaboration videos! My two favorite lock pickers in one video - what's not to like?
awesome, the two best lockpicking channels combine. great work, guys!
My favorite locks are disc detainers. I don't know why, they just seem so smooth and relaxing.
I'm not sure what the majority of you guys will be picking but I know a certain someone insists on 3 in 1 telescoping tools for middle of the keyway zero disks. I'm excited to see what's next
This is exciting. I hope a tool maker like sparrows is picking this up.
Predicted the future
Wow
Cool idea guys! I can not wait to see the final outcome. Then the actual pick inside that fits and works.
Awesome concept, and off to a great start! Your care for esthetics and design, as well as the considerations you put into choosing the materials are evidence that with proper engineering and design not only can you keep production costs down, but beauty and function are both possibilities that can go into an item. From the way you two have started, I suspect durability will be top-notch also.
True, this does not consider the manufacturing time, but for a prototype, you pretty much want to give that a lot of leeway and the way things appear so far, CNC manufacturing could pop these things out fairly quickly without compromising the stated design requirements.
I am anxiously awaiting the next installment.
Uhhhh... if you count the Lagavulin as part of our "production costs", we may blow the budget a bit... sorry.🤑
@@bosnianbill, wouldn't that fall under muscle relaxers and painkillers? I mean, after all you two are doing the job of an entire department or three. Good insurance will provide top shelf...er...top quality care.
If this is at LPL's place, Bill, you need to watch out that you don't get shot in the leg as revenge :P
I aware of that revolver, pistol, and that awkward knife with hidden gunshot.
@@dennylukman1801 and ar15
well... I think I have a new lathe project...
Edit: suggestion, instead of using marker for the color, use nail polish as it will last longer, i've used it on my firearms and the color still pops years later.
Michael Sparks good idea! I also use those little touch up automotive paint bottles to paint in hard to read markings on tools to make the markings stand out. However I bet nail polish would be a whole lot cheaper!
Ditto......but alcohol consumption, high speed spinning tools, nail polish, and two very shady giggling characters in the basement?.......guess we know how some are keeping busy during furlough!
Ex wondered why her neon yellow polish kept disappearing. Cheaper than hi-viz sights.
You two would make an excellent podcast
WHY DO I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH I HAVE NEVER CARES ABOUT LOCKPICKING OR LOCKS IN MY ENTIRE LIFE AND IM PROBABLY HALF YOUR AGE BUT I CANT STOP WATCHING WHY
i lové your guys’s intros you do together with the silly jokes, i love the recurring lagavuelin reference, i love your guys’s giddiness about locks like you’re opening gifts on christmas,
i just love you guys. hope you both have a great day thanks for the rabbit hole content i can always rely on to spend an afternoon on
I often drink Lagavulin myself while watching LPL and Bill's videos. Good stuff!
... gonna have to watch this again.
really great work guys!
So that's how it all started...
The pick that Bosnian Bill and i made
Lookin good guys!Can’t wait to see the finished product
Nice design, sounds like so many improvements in there, can't wait to see how you make a good tip for these.
You should rename this video into The origin story of "The pick that BosnianBill and I made."
Lpls business strategy is impeccable; make criminal activity more accessible, offer legal services.
Great content! Lock picking looks like a fun hobby!
That's good lathe work. Quite admire how nicely finished it is.
It was the WD40. The finish was HORRIBLE until LPL sprayed some WD40 on it, then it brightened right up.
Dang. That WD40 can do anything!
Ya I watch both of your channel’s. I’m not quite sure which was first but, your each awesome in your own way!
Great video. Can't wait to see the end result... 👍👍👍👍
I gona damn love this collaboration and series!
Well I’m excited, my 2 favorite CZcams personalities making cool videos. This is excellent news!
BTW, excellent choice of single malt. Lagavulin 16 is my favorite. It's like a campfire in a bottle.
Interchangeable nose pieces and tips would be nice. That way it could cover all types of locks.
Damn good idea.
@@scarz1951 I mean, I understand they are trying to make a universal pick, but it makes more sense to me to offer 3-4 varieties of manipulators and as many nose pieces since they want to make them replaceable anyway.
Yeah they could be magnetic and fit into a hexagon shape do they do not move ejile turning
This is great, im looking forward to the entire series. Looks like you are off to a great start so far.
I don’t see why you couldn’t keep the body of the pick out of brass. Just make the “nose” and pick tip out of the higher strength stainless. It would make the pick look better aesthetically imo with the contrast once everything is polished up imo, and its easier and cheaper to machine.
Great series keep making them.
Chaps, I salute your excellent taste in scotch! I like Laphroaig most (especially 40-year-old, which I don't get to taste very often because I'm not Bill Gates), but Lagavulin is a VERY close second!
Also, this is a really useful video for me. I'm not even at "locksport noob" level, having so far cracked a couple of combination locks and picked one cheap Chinese copy of a cheap Master lock, but I've been taking the time to learn how different types of lock and the techniques employed to pick them actually work (academic background; I need to really understand the theory before I move on to the practical stuff) and disc detainers were still a bit of a mystery to me. This video has really helped explain it all :-)
Nice work guys, impressive skills!