[57] Kwikset Smartkey Gen 3 Reverse Sidebar Bypassed, Picked, Gutted & Explained

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  • čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
  • 0:00 Intro & Explanation
    0:29 Reverse sidebar
    1:52 Bypass technique
    2:35 Rekeying system
    4:06 Picking
    5:54 Open
    6:09 Gutting
    11:32 Close Up & Summary
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Komentáře • 58

  • @educatebo
    @educatebo Před rokem +5

    Just bought a gen 3 dead bolt for practice- $12 at HD. I think Kwikset had made improvements- it is NOT sloppy; the space to insert the shims allows only 1 shim of .012" thickness. This one shim doesn't put on enough pressure, as you say. With the core removed and in a vice I can get 2- .012 shims started as you show. Then, each shim exits the channel half way back due to the slight upward shim tip that was necessary to get the shim in the channel over the side bar to begn with. Couldn't get the shim in the channel IF it was totally flat. The lock did open in the vice with both shims in place. The problems are: very tight tolerances and the curved shim tip.

    • @educatebo
      @educatebo Před rokem

      Now having luck with the core in a vice with 2 shims: first 0.010", then 0.012"; insert the first shim (with a slight tip curve to get started) just under pins 1-3. The curved tip makes the shim exit upward after the 3rd pin. Then insert the 2nd shim without any curve on the tip on top of the first shim past pin #3, through the visible space to pin #4. This puts downward pressure on the first shim and prevents it from popping up. Finally push shim #1 all the way under shim #2. Set the wafers as I go.
      I tried milling one shim to 0.02" but couldn't get it to work. Next I'll try the core in the housing inserting the shims side by side and angling them together?

    • @educatebo
      @educatebo Před rokem

      Correction: I CAN get 3 shims between the core and housing: 0.01, 0.01 and 0.013". For my new lock, any 2 shims won't allow pin 5 to set. It takes all 3 shims to put enough pressure on the side bar to set pin 5. Perhaps different shims will be necessary for different gen 3 locks?

  • @SnakePicks
    @SnakePicks Před 2 lety +3

    Wow. Great job picking, gutting, and explaining it all.

  • @SchuddeMell
    @SchuddeMell Před 2 lety +1

    i was looking forward to this video after seeing your post with the 2 shims : ) very interesting technique and excellent explanation : )

  • @chriscapune7873
    @chriscapune7873 Před 2 lety +1

    Great bypass and picking
    Very nice explanation!
    🐈🐾🐈‍⬛🐾

  • @tartgreenapple
    @tartgreenapple Před rokem

    Best video on how this bypass works, you put a lot of time into making this video, thank you!!!

  • @locksportviking3019
    @locksportviking3019 Před 2 lety +1

    You made that look to easy! I still have trouble with mine but I'm going to have to steal your two tensioner idea👍 Thanks

  • @thelockpickinglebowski633
    @thelockpickinglebowski633 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice work. Yeah I gotta get busy making the right size and shape shims for this.

  • @qutube100
    @qutube100 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video thankyou!

  • @camronbay1
    @camronbay1 Před rokem

    Nice video that's why I mention feeler gauges to make different types of shims to defeat locks on the knob sets I use a punch to create a hole in the back of the plug and use a Allen wrench to rotate the spindle.

  • @johnkeo358
    @johnkeo358 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Are you using two .25 mm feeler guages?

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Exactly. Should also work with thinner or slightly thicker gauges too

    • @johnkeo358
      @johnkeo358 Před 2 měsíci

      @MrBlackMagic I was surprised the Gen 3 was rather high on the LPU ranking system. I understand it's unpickable without the sidebar bypass. I hear the gen 1 and 2 are pickable but much harder to pick without doing the sidebar bypass.
      I was thinking of using a modified Bobby pin, seems it would be much easier for edc carry.

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 měsíci

      @@johnkeo358 Could be working with bobby pins but they are a bit stiff while getting them into the tiny area where the exploit works. Let me know once you tried it, curios to know if this could do the trick too

  • @eccentric_by_default489

    How can you tell what gen a kwikset smart lock is by looking at it?

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před rokem +1

      Maybe its possible to differ them based on the keyway but i am not entirely sure

    • @eccentric_by_default489
      @eccentric_by_default489 Před rokem

      @@MrBlackMagic that's what I'm trying to figure out. I know theres different ways to bypass or pick the different gens. My issue is identifying the gens

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před rokem +1

      @@eccentric_by_default489 As you can also decode some KwikSet Gens just based on the keyway view i would highly recommend to use an endoscope camera to search for unique features

  • @andy41417
    @andy41417 Před rokem

    Block shims with #3 master pin on edge over steel ball.

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před rokem

      Could you go more into detail? i am not sure if i understand what you are trying to say

  • @thorlancaster5641
    @thorlancaster5641 Před 2 lety +1

    6:28 Why TF did KWIK SET put a giant hole there for you to shim through? At first I thought it might be a cheat but I see it in other videos too. If they could shield their sidebar, it would make your clever pick impossible.
    Key retention maybe?

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +1

      I see no reason for this sidebar access. Maybe its easier for contruction or what ever but its simply a giant design flaw.

    • @ceazar75
      @ceazar75 Před 2 lety

      He's cheating. That's not normally there.

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +3

      @@ceazar75 Did you spend 1 minute to check other Kwikset Gen 3 video about it? Go buy a Gen 3 if you don't believe it and try it yourself. Or ask one of the hundred other lockpickers who also did it (go to the subreddit and ask for it, pls)

    • @shieldcracker
      @shieldcracker Před rokem

      Kwikset puts the hole there and another one at 180 degrees apart to place hardened inserts to resist drilling attacks. This leaves only a very thin bridge at the edge of the face of the plug that could potentially be exploited to pick the lock as seen here.

  • @pouncerminned863
    @pouncerminned863 Před 2 lety

    Where to buy the shims?

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +1

      I made them out of feeler gauge. But you can try anything that fits like a cut soda can.

    • @pouncerminned863
      @pouncerminned863 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MrBlackMagic oh ok. I do have some standard shims I can cut thinner I suppose

    • @pouncerminned863
      @pouncerminned863 Před 2 lety

      @@MrBlackMagic last question, what is the height gap measurement as I’m gunna make some shim picks from feeler gauge as well. Maybe 2 to 3 mm should be ok huh?

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety

      @@pouncerminned863 you mean the thickness of the feeler gauge i used for this shims or from-to thicknes of a feeler gauge in general?

    • @pouncerminned863
      @pouncerminned863 Před 2 lety

      @@MrBlackMagic I just want to know the size of that gap where you slide the shim into-

  • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257

    2:30 "shit tip"

  • @rmsg7504
    @rmsg7504 Před 2 lety

    So you have to cut a slot in the side of the cylinder to fit the shims in? Not very practical. I can see the slot you filed or cut in the side of the cylinder on the video.

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +1

      There is no need to file or cut something to access this slot/notch and apply the shown bypass. This specific lock has been picked, bypassed and tested many times by different pickers so of course there are marks, scratches and slightly worn out parts but that does not affect the bypass itself. you can use this technique in most up to all gen3 in the wild. Go to your hardware store, buy one of those and try it yourself.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Před 2 lety

      @@MrBlackMagic it's clearly cut or filed NOT wear marks.

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +1

      @@rmsg7504 go watch some picking videos about the gen3 (for example from panda-frog as he used the same lock, you can see the notch ~2:25; but many other pickers used the same basic technique in their videos), go to the lockpicking reddit or discord and ask about this lock and/or my video, go and buy such a lock and try it yourself. Please try out this suggestions before judging. You will see that this exploit works in general on the kwikset gen3 exactly as i demonstrated.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Před 2 lety

      @@MrBlackMagic I'm not talking about the technique I'm talking about the filed or dremeled material removed from the front of the cylinder face which is being used to gain access to the side bar. That would not be modified that way in the field it would be round... not notched out.

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +1

      @@rmsg7504 dude it is not filed or modified no matter what it may look like for you. Go ask in the lockpicking community or buy this lock yourself but I won't argue longer with you about this point

  • @entropysalvage3546
    @entropysalvage3546 Před 2 lety

    Unfortunately your not likely to find these locks in the wild with such a convenient notch filed in them for your tensioning tool 🤪

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +3

      Unfortunately this sidebar is accessible exactly as shown. I am also not the first person using this kind of bypass on this specific spot. Go grab a Gen 3 and try it yourself buddy.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Před 2 lety

      @@MrBlackMagic What is shown is a slot in the side of the cylinder. You will not find them that way out in the wild.

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +1

      @@rmsg7504 that is not true. I am not the only one who used this kind of bypass and the lock setup I had would be implemented in the door exactly as shown (with the notch accessible). I don't know if it is always the case but at least very often.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Před 2 lety

      @@MrBlackMagic I can see file slot on side of front edge of the face of the cylinder.

    • @MrBlackMagic
      @MrBlackMagic  Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@rmsg7504 Because this specific lock from the video has been bypassed, picked and tested many times by different pickers, there are of course marks or slightly worn parts. In any case is this part accessible without filing or cutting so the bypass can be applied in most up to all gen3 out there. Go to your hardware store, buy one of those and try it yourself.