@@Azguella Don't be too sure about that. A thief might have an accomplice holding the lock for them. Or a padlock might be stably positionend by itself.
@@chitoryu12 nah he's not that good. Browse some locksport forums and he's a bit of a controversial figure because a lot of locksport people don't think he's particularly great but because he's popular they feel like there's a perception he's much better than he is. The general consensus is "Good but no better than anyone else who is the same age" which is to say he's not particularly notable outside of his CZcams channel. However i like LPL and feel like there's a bit of jealousy in the locksport community. But he's definitely not "100 at lock picking", more like 60/70 in lock picking.
@@medes5597 I'd agree there's probably jealousy but he doesn't say he's a master lockpicker, he doesn't talk like he's one it's more the viewers that meme how good he is or say he's a master lockpicker and I'm not him so I can't say for certain but I think he just generally enjoys his hobby and wishes to teach people and/or share his love for the hobby. Edit: I'd also like to add that anyone can say anything on a forum without having to prove anything whereas LPL picks and then guts probably most of the locks to prove on video there's no bullshit and he's not replaced pins or removed them to make the lock easier to pick.
@@medes5597 guys like bosnianbill are jealous of his talents that says a lot. And most users of locksport forums can't crack a peanut butter sandwich let alone a kw1
You don't need to pick the lock to defeat it. All it takes is probably 15 to 20 seconds with a decent cordless die grinder, because the shackle is not protected. There is no need to improve the core any further except for a lockpicking competition.
@@saxtremer There is on veey good reason to improve a core: To get the lock to be tamper evident. If it is diffuclt/impossible to pick, there is more likely to be an actual break-in, thus leaving physical evidence of entry. You see your lock on your door every day. When did you last test it was still the same lock or how do yu know someone hasn't gained entry by picking the lock?
@@mikakorhonen5715 considering like two thirds of all locks can be shimmed or raked by a child that you gave a prybar and waverake to, that's a heck of an improvement. Also, you can probably assume that most people who can pick something like this are highly resourceful locksmiths or enthusiasts who don't really go around stealing shit by picking locks. An actual thief has a buffet of 5-10 second entries to choose from, they don't go for the hard mode for no reason
I’ve been using Abloy Enforcers for 12 years on my trailers. Basically the worst case scenario for any lock as they’re constantly moving around from bumpy roads and subject to all the rain, snow, mud, sand and god knows what else I’ve thrown at them in 1.5 million miles and 12 years. I’m on my third (current one is almost 7 years old) and I had to cut the other two after losing keys on the road (my failure not Abloy’s obviously). So yeah, they’re almost impossible to pick, you’re not cutting one off without an angle grinder and a lot of time, and with a little lock lube and minimal care they last pretty much indefinitely. There’s a reason they’re one of most used locks in our industry. Trucker approved for sure 👍
Absolutely agree, I've got over 1M on my current Abloy 350 and it works like new. Basically every trucking company with more than maybe 10-20 trucks buys these in bulk and issues them to all their drivers, and there are plenty of reasons for that.
Yep. My company issues them to every driver. Theyre expensive to replace so it hurt when I forgot mine on a drop n hook. I went back the next morning but the customer had used a grinder on it. I didnt tell my employer, just bought the best lick i could find at the next truck stop. I quickly saw the EXTREME difference in quality. The store lock said HARDENER on it, but it was flimsy and after only 2 weeks of use I almost coukdnt unlock it one day. Had to spray copius amounts of WD40 in ot just to get it off. Carried on like that for a month before accepting the $65 replacement fee was worth it.
They sale these locks by the hundreds of thousands if not more every year. It is the standard for transportation companies to secure loads. And alot of insurance companies require this lock on high value loads.
every country is jealous of our locks, because our locks are the greatest. We are going to impose trade tarrifs on our locks to our market competing nations and our allies. We're going to make padlocks great again.
@@dlevi67 Yeah, because that would be the fair thing to do. That democracy shit is real stupid anyway....Atleast when the result is not the one that YOU want.
@@flamingosalad3541 yup good job Sweden, you put your own well being first, in pretty much everything for 1000years, don't bash the usa for wanting to do the same. Time for the rest of the world to put their daddy pants on and pull their own weight.
If you’re curious as to why it is masterkeyed . Most enforcer locks are used by trucking companies to secure loads. Our companies have a master key on top of our key we have.
Had these on our ISO containers in Afghanistan. We lost the key to one of them. Blunted a pair of bolt croppers - actually bent the pincers. Got the fire service out to angle grind. They went through two disks and it took them about 30 minutes. Very impressed with these.
I’m proud to be a Finn, once again. And it was good to hear that the Abloy Classic takes that long to pick. I have tweekied Abloy locks for 55 years and really like them. They are very clear and easy to rekey and also masterkey. That was interesting to hear that those Chinese cheapos can’t pick this if it has the anti pick disk. If I try to recall, those have been very common for decades. Next I have to make that beautiful tool of yours. We have our own traditional pic called ”Vempele” made by a smart thief very long time ago. It looks like that of yours.
That seemed like an impressive challenge, even for you. And to think in Finland, this core is typically used in lower security applications like mailboxes and such. Most exterior doors have at least execs in them.
I got a simple lockpicking kit as a teenager and it was a real shame realizing every lock in Finland is some sort of Abloy unless you go out of your way to buy a cheap 1€ lock to practice on. In the US even residential buildings often use those simple pin locks like you see in youtube beginner tutorials or video games.
@@MsLinaTina It really is just the reverse of gutting. You take the discs you want as your new key, assemble them into the core and re-insert the core. Play backwards from 8:20 to 5:00 and you've basically got the rekey to the original key.
@@MsLinaTina Ihad to experience it once. with similar lock core as this, tho it was on door. it got jammed totally and I had to call an abloy crtified lock smith, he had a special drill bit to just drill the whole core out, and then he just lookd at my key and took a box thst had a buch of those discs and just assembly a new lock notjing special, like putting some legos to gether, it took like 10 minutes and the lock was like a new!!
Can't gell you how wide my grin is right now. LPL taking more than a minute to pick a lock and complementing it... I did not think I would feel pride to be from the same country as some lock...
I use a handful of these locks on a daily basis in my job... They're reliable, very heavy-duty, and can also double as a weapon if necessary lol. Thanks for putting out a video about these locks.
I immediately went to see how much they cost and was shocked! Might buy one for my man as a gift. If it is LPL-approved he will love it, we love these videos!
The company I drive for uses these locks on our trailers during transport. It's refreshing to both see its pick resistance and to see it get the LPL endorsement.
We have Abloy 350s at my place of work for when higher security is needed off of the warehouse premises, and I dropped it on my foot once. I got a pretty nice click out of 2 and some good binding on 3 for the next couple days. And I'm not talking about the lock.
Wow, I guess my company made a damn fine choice to lock up semi trailers. Ive had the same Abloy since I started trucking and for 8 months this thing ridden on the door clasps of my trailers, being horrendously jostled and rocked for 10 hours a day as I drive and the only damage so far is a couple chips out of the top of the pad. I knew it was a tough son of a bitch, but I didnt know it was LPL approved
Also have you ever tried picking abloys newer design? Their first used to be like the one in the video but a little bit bigger and the flat part of the D was curved aswell. Their newest one is almost hourglass shaped
Thank you for your recommendation! You just saved my bike from being stolen! A break in happened in our building's storage room and they broke the hasp thankfully the lock held up!
Love your videos. I'm a maintenance technician and everything I have learned from your videos has been very helpful. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge.
1 was given 3 of these years ago. They are hard enough to open with the key let alone a pick! I've only ever toyed with basic stuff, I appreciate the skill involved watching your videos.
Best lock you can have as a truck driver. Been using these for five+ years, even had someone try to slice through it with a torch and bolt cutters and you could barely tell. These put up with a lot of dirt, rain, snow, ice, etc being in travel most of their lives and work flawlessly through it all.
Another excellent video. I also appreciate you mentioning what locks are better or best. The rest of us "normal" humans need feedback to what is a really good lock.
I'm a truck driver for a LARGE U.S. carrier, they use Abloy pad locks just like this but with a different key shape. Great to know these locks are LDL approved =) You should get your hands on a kingpin lock and try and get it off while attached to a trailer!
I use Abloys here. I have several. I am pleased to see that they are such high security. They are very well made and simple to operate, key retaining padlocks.
Always straight to the point, always crediting the rightful people, always saying the video number when referencing own video. Goddamn, most professional youtuber, HANDS DOWN.
Using this tool makes you understand every movement if you pay attention at the hole on top of the tool. I love seeing you picking locks that dont have a key its like a mystery 😁😁
I’ve used these for years but damn.. I never knew they were THAT badass. I mean to lpl they may not be too big of a deal but any lock that makes it past 3 minutes on an lpl video that he says he uses is a true boss level lock lol
These locks are as standard where I work. I work for an electricity distribution company and all the gear and buildings are protected by several of these locks at a time. The ones we use are the newer protec 2 cores. I know they are very expensive but are clearly brilliant for their purposes. I am lucky I have a master key for these locks as I sure as hell would hate to pick one! Great job btw LPL
the company I last drove a truck for used these. They claimed they were $300 each (I found them online for $80) and I had to use them on the trailers AND the steering lock EVERY SINGLE TIME I PARKED. and I worked there for 6.5 years, and had to park several times a day.
What a lock! Took me a little over 3 hrs to pick the 341 with the chinese knockoff tool. Now to put in a new core and have a fine, usable lock. Perfect video to get these locks usable for a fraction of the cost of keyed locks.
Awesome to see the inside of a disk detainer lock now I have to continue going through your archive to see if there is a wafer core deconstruction lock so I can see the inside of one of them!
What I find bizarre is that this lock is commonly used in Finland for low security applications, and they use even better Abloys for “more important” stuff. Is Finland a nation of sport pickers or something? I would think picking is the *least* often used method of defeating a lock.
John Early It used to be that only a handful of people could pick these. But Finland has lots of rural locations far from the nearest police response, so locks need to delay burglars for a lot longer. LPL and other skilled people can pick this in 2 minutes, so only good where police can respond in 2 minutes.
I have two Abloy 241 that i have had for about 20 years, they have been used on everything from my garage door, motorbike chain and now securing my Kayak 12mm security wire rope, first class locks.
My company uses these to lock out semi-trailers. They’re good locks. They can be cut through but it requires either a lot of strength and time, or, a really beefy cutting disk and time. We have a security camera video of someone spending almost 15 minutes trying to get into one of our trailers at a drop yard. Took so long that our security guy just strolled over lazily and spooked him with a flashlight lol. If someone wants to get into one of these, best bet is to just be prepared to cut it.
Omg I think this is the only lock that I got to pick before you. But I'm pretty sure you put it back together before me. I pick this lock when I lost my key somewhere in the mud but had a key from another lock but no core got super lucky that all to do was change the discs in a different combination. Boom I had a key and a lock that worked with no spare parts. I was already lucky just to pick it. Finding the way to pick it without a nice tool was hard enough. Awesome video wish it was out like 5 mouths ago would have came very handing but all good. 🔧🔩 thank you love your videos.
LPL and BosnianBill have a 6-part video series about creating this tool which they hope will in the future be made by a lockpick manufacturer. The series starts with LPL video [823].
I’ve got quite a few of these locks laying around home as the company I work for uses them to lock up high voltage sub yards..I’m impressed he picked it but bolt cutters goes through them in about 5 seconds lol
Hello Abloy is actyally fun name, AB in the front comes from swedish word AktieBolag and L in the middle is Lukko (which means lock in english) and OY means (OsakeYhtiö) , so thats how you get name ABLOY. here is wiki link to what AB and OY means in details. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osakeyhti%C3%B6 -Best regads Some finnish person.
As long as you don't have either (or any, there can be more than two) of the original keyed keys, there's really no way to reliably extract the master key from just this sample. Also, even if you did, that'd only be the master key to the series this lock comes from. With ten discs, five of which have multiple gates at two each, you have 32 different keys that would work in _this_ lock. One or more of these may work in other locks, but with just this sample, we have no way of knowing which.
This looks like the exact one I accidentally left in Dallas, TX. Was a pretty pricey padlock but being made out of boron steel, and not being familiar with padlocks, I thought this thing was indestructible!
Good to see you picking these locks. Would be nice to know what you're doing inside, how you're doing it and what you're looking for/feeling etc. i.e. Could you add an instructional bit?
I have an abloy 341 with no key also, but I completely lack the skills to get into it non destructively.. if you want another one your welcome to have it..
I work in a distribution center, and whenever we get a trailer that they forgot to unlock i get the pleasure to come and delock it. Well low and behold, I came upon this beaut. The 4 foot bolt cutters weren't doing the trick so I quickly moved on to the angle grinder. Had the lock off in less than a minute. But as soon as I saw what the core looked like I immediately wanted to see if LPL had already picked it. I knew it was going to be a step above the rest, but I didn't know it was going to be such a gem. Going to add it to my broken lock collection in my toolbox 😁
I took mine apart before watching this (with the key, though). It’s also laser marked ‘The Enforcer’ and similarly to yours also has a key number stamped in - and it’s got a few master discs as well. It’s good you rekeyed yours! Mine has 0 cut discs in slots 1 through 4, master discs in 5 through 8, only 10 is a control disc although I guess the spinner is too, and there isn’t a single false gate nor anti-pick disc in the lot.
It just occurred to me: In the "Lockpicking Video" racket, a mild case of OCPD--a disorder characterized by an excessive concern with attention to detail and orderliness--is a feature not a bug. Another GREAT video, LPL, thanks.
Had to look up this video as a truck driver left this lock on a trailer and didn’t take it off. The dread on my bosses face when I said it was boron based and that you liked this lock was perfect
I just bought 5 of these all keyed alike off of the Facebook marketplace, had no idea they were disc detainers until after I had them in hand. They will be useful in securing some stuff, maybe I’ll be able to pick one of them someday.
Great video! Picking abloys is really gun and I enjoyed your tool and picking very much! Nice machining and very clean technique! Do you want to go for other abloys too? 😃👍
Pretty good for year 1919 design, right? This lock core is literally called Abloy Classic. Since then they have produced Abloy Profile (pretty similar to Classic but the key has been profiled more aggressively), Abloy Disklock Pro, Abloy Exec, Abloy Sento, Abloy Protec and Abloy Protec 2. And that's just the cores worth mentioning. As far as I know, Protec 2 has been picked by total of 3 people in the world and only one (idanhurja) has publicly shown the picking tools actually used.
Have you tried the new or new'ish abloys ? Here in Finland 99.999% of the houses have abloy locks, if not 100%. Haven't even seen anyone without one on their front door but it's usually the newer variants.
re-keying the abbloy 341? that reminds me i passed by the CT assa aboy factory a few days ago but arrived to late to take the tour (traffic) . its address is 110 Sargent Dr LOL!!!
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 its the location of the old sargent factory from the 1800's when the sargent brothers moved production from nyc to new haven CT USA. assa brought sargent in 1996 and its sub divisions. they make locks in the 300,000+feet factory and other buildings on its 30 acre property. Yale is also in the same state but in the middle of nowhere in a town called Berlin CT.
Your final comment about it being a disappointment, it wasn't entirely clear to me exactly why it was so. This is the first vaguely critical statement I have ever made on this channel, you are one of the most professional and competent humans I have ever encountered.
I'm not really into lock-picking, I don't have the patience for it. I really do enjoy watching your videos. You should have shown rebuilding the lock, that would have been really interesting
I think you are right about the impossibly hard method of trying to pick and hold the lock. I think there is a way to build a tool that tensions the front without a tensioning nose.
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When you don't hear the words "Not too hard a pick" from LPL it's bound to be near impossible for anyone else.
True.
And like he said trying to do it solo while holding the lock makes it alone impossible
@@Azguella Don't be too sure about that. A thief might have an accomplice holding the lock for them. Or a padlock might be stably positionend by itself.
@@kevinprice2274 Did you even read what I wrote? "trying to do it SOLO" and getting them stable depends on where they are put on
@@Azguella @Kevin Price is either a complete bozo, or else he's just new here.
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"Hey there, friend, could you hold this for me?"
"Sure, but wh-"
"Nice click out of six..."
"people often asks about locks that i would use"
😲 WE'VE BEEN BEGGING EVERYDAY 😭
@WhyMaro LPL is basically Lockpicking 100 in real life. The number of locks he's failed to break is like, 2. Maybe.
@@chitoryu12 nah he's not that good. Browse some locksport forums and he's a bit of a controversial figure because a lot of locksport people don't think he's particularly great but because he's popular they feel like there's a perception he's much better than he is.
The general consensus is "Good but no better than anyone else who is the same age" which is to say he's not particularly notable outside of his CZcams channel. However i like LPL and feel like there's a bit of jealousy in the locksport community. But he's definitely not "100 at lock picking", more like 60/70 in lock picking.
@@medes5597 I'd agree there's probably jealousy but he doesn't say he's a master lockpicker, he doesn't talk like he's one it's more the viewers that meme how good he is or say he's a master lockpicker and I'm not him so I can't say for certain but I think he just generally enjoys his hobby and wishes to teach people and/or share his love for the hobby.
Edit: I'd also like to add that anyone can say anything on a forum without having to prove anything whereas LPL picks and then guts probably most of the locks to prove on video there's no bullshit and he's not replaced pins or removed them to make the lock easier to pick.
@@medes5597 guys like bosnianbill are jealous of his talents that says a lot. And most users of locksport forums can't crack a peanut butter sandwich let alone a kw1
@@nuggert I like LPL but he's more like a popular face for locksport than anything else.
99.999 of population could not pick this lock. The special tool and intricate knowledge of the lock needed is a killer. I would buy this lock.
Yes plus he needed the lock to be steady.
You don't need to pick the lock to defeat it. All it takes is probably 15 to 20 seconds with a decent cordless die grinder, because the shackle is not protected. There is no need to improve the core any further except for a lockpicking competition.
@@saxtremer There is on veey good reason to improve a core: To get the lock to be tamper evident. If it is diffuclt/impossible to pick, there is more likely to be an actual break-in, thus leaving physical evidence of entry.
You see your lock on your door every day. When did you last test it was still the same lock or how do yu know someone hasn't gained entry by picking the lock?
I worry those 0,001. There is still 77000 people who can pick this lock and 55,2 from those are here in Finland. :(
@@mikakorhonen5715 considering like two thirds of all locks can be shimmed or raked by a child that you gave a prybar and waverake to, that's a heck of an improvement. Also, you can probably assume that most people who can pick something like this are highly resourceful locksmiths or enthusiasts who don't really go around stealing shit by picking locks. An actual thief has a buffet of 5-10 second entries to choose from, they don't go for the hard mode for no reason
I’ve been using Abloy Enforcers for 12 years on my trailers. Basically the worst case scenario for any lock as they’re constantly moving around from bumpy roads and subject to all the rain, snow, mud, sand and god knows what else I’ve thrown at them in 1.5 million miles and 12 years. I’m on my third (current one is almost 7 years old) and I had to cut the other two after losing keys on the road (my failure not Abloy’s obviously). So yeah, they’re almost impossible to pick, you’re not cutting one off without an angle grinder and a lot of time, and with a little lock lube and minimal care they last pretty much indefinitely. There’s a reason they’re one of most used locks in our industry. Trucker approved for sure 👍
Disclaimer: Since that kinda sounded like a commercial I should point out nobody’s paying me to say the above, those thoughts are all mine.
Absolutely agree, I've got over 1M on my current Abloy 350 and it works like new. Basically every trucking company with more than maybe 10-20 trucks buys these in bulk and issues them to all their drivers, and there are plenty of reasons for that.
Yep. My company issues them to every driver. Theyre expensive to replace so it hurt when I forgot mine on a drop n hook. I went back the next morning but the customer had used a grinder on it.
I didnt tell my employer, just bought the best lick i could find at the next truck stop. I quickly saw the EXTREME difference in quality. The store lock said HARDENER on it, but it was flimsy and after only 2 weeks of use I almost coukdnt unlock it one day. Had to spray copius amounts of WD40 in ot just to get it off. Carried on like that for a month before accepting the $65 replacement fee was worth it.
What kind of lock lube?
makes sense that they're popular with truckers. I found mine while sitting in traffic. someone had left it on the concrete highway divider.
From now on you should refer to the vice as "friend"
You really got my balls in a friend here man
@@CPT_Nelson I think it would be Miami friend, not plural.
@@Alexander_l322 Fixed! :D
Stick some googly eyes on it and nobody could ever complain that it isn't
"Thanks for watching. Keep your dick in a friend."
Sales for this lock about to go up with the LPL endorsement
They sale these locks by the hundreds of thousands if not more every year. It is the standard for transportation companies to secure loads. And alot of insurance companies require this lock on high value loads.
Stonks
This lock has the very old classic core, its not the one you want, newer abloys have much more secure cores than this like protec2 core.
@Lassi Kinnunen "thingy" = vempele? (one of two words I know in Finnish!)
@@shanewiley9190 Also common to find these on vending machines.
I built these locks and their other padlocks. They're assembled by hand. Great workplace and great locks.
every country is jealous of our locks, because our locks are the greatest. We are going to impose trade tarrifs on our locks to our market competing nations and our allies. We're going to make padlocks great again.
@@flamingosalad3541 Would you mind locking a few Brexit doors with them?
Hyvät työkaverit tekevät paikasta kuin paikasta mahtavan!
@@dlevi67 Yeah, because that would be the fair thing to do.
That democracy shit is real stupid anyway....Atleast when the result is not the one that YOU want.
@@flamingosalad3541 yup good job Sweden, you put your own well being first, in pretty much everything for 1000years, don't bash the usa for wanting to do the same. Time for the rest of the world to put their daddy pants on and pull their own weight.
If you’re curious as to why it is masterkeyed . Most enforcer locks are used by trucking companies to secure loads. Our companies have a master key on top of our key we have.
When a lock takes longer than 60 seconds from LPL you know its a godly lock
That lock put up a hell of a fight for a master-keyed system with discs that are a "disappointment."
And requires a purpose-built tool that few criminals will have.
@@bdf2718 Doesn't require, just makes it a hell of a lot easier.
@@matthewpiper4328
Even with the tool, it wasn't that easy. As the OP said, it put up a hell of a fight.
@@bdf2718 notice I said easier, not easy.
You're not gonna be picking this with a screwdriver and a bobby pin.
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Its a 200$ lock.
The employees of Police Plaza still has doubts about this lock.
NYC10038 I think it's the old weaker model...
@@2ShotsDown Interesting. It's a 60€ lock here in Finland.
@@DG-qq6gz ?
Had these on our ISO containers in Afghanistan. We lost the key to one of them. Blunted a pair of bolt croppers - actually bent the pincers. Got the fire service out to angle grind. They went through two disks and it took them about 30 minutes.
Very impressed with these.
LPL takes more than 2 minutes to open the lock on a vice with a special tool and expreience.
Lock company: *Stonks*
Master lock: "I see nothing, I know NOTHING!"
LPL: "finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary"
And short
These are great padlocks. I bought one years ago. Great video!
yepp!
Railroad term for these locks are “Switch Locks”.
I’m proud to be a Finn, once again. And it was good to hear that the Abloy Classic takes that long to pick. I have tweekied Abloy locks for 55 years and really like them. They are very clear and easy to rekey and also masterkey. That was interesting to hear that those Chinese cheapos can’t pick this if it has the anti pick disk. If I try to recall, those have been very common for decades. Next I have to make that beautiful tool of yours. We have our own traditional pic called ”Vempele” made by a smart thief very long time ago. It looks like that of yours.
Lock Company's should get Awards if they're locks makes it past the 90 second mark on this channel
Yeah, replace that star system they use with an LPL time.
@@bdf2718 just a sea of "under 15 seconds", the occasional "30 seconds", and one or two "minutes"
With 100 year old design... What have the other companies been doing all this time?
That seemed like an impressive challenge, even for you. And to think in Finland, this core is typically used in lower security applications like mailboxes and such. Most exterior doors have at least execs in them.
Execs are just as easy to pick, or even easier ;)
But everything in Finland is better than China or even the USA
All Abloys are really hard to pick.
Ridiculously easy to drill though, so they don't offer much security in reality
TonyS Locks unprotected yes, but most of them have hardened spinner discs.
I got a simple lockpicking kit as a teenager and it was a real shame realizing every lock in Finland is some sort of Abloy unless you go out of your way to buy a cheap 1€ lock to practice on. In the US even residential buildings often use those simple pin locks like you see in youtube beginner tutorials or video games.
2:04 "I'm tensioning off of ten."
Me: "Did he say TEN??!!"
I thought you were going to rekey on camera, but now I realise that would just be dumb.
It would be neat to see how rekeying is done though. Maybe on one of the practice locks where it wouldn't matter.
@@MsLinaTina yeah that would be awesome
zac chambers He could just rekey for a practice key, then rekey again off camera.
@@MsLinaTina It really is just the reverse of gutting. You take the discs you want as your new key, assemble them into the core and re-insert the core. Play backwards from 8:20 to 5:00 and you've basically got the rekey to the original key.
@@MsLinaTina Ihad to experience it once. with similar lock core as this, tho it was on door. it got jammed totally and I had to call an abloy crtified lock smith, he had a special drill bit to just drill the whole core out, and then he just lookd at my key and took a box thst had a buch of those discs and just assembly a new lock notjing special, like putting some legos to gether, it took like 10 minutes and the lock was like a new!!
Can't gell you how wide my grin is right now. LPL taking more than a minute to pick a lock and complementing it... I did not think I would feel pride to be from the same country as some lock...
To ‘complement’ is to complete.
To ‘compliment’ is to praise.
love it when we get to : "not sure what's holding us up" only to have the lock open a few secs later 😂😂
Those are the magic words he uses to get the lock to stop resisting....
I use a handful of these locks on a daily basis in my job... They're reliable, very heavy-duty, and can also double as a weapon if necessary lol. Thanks for putting out a video about these locks.
What do you do for a living?
@@GetIsekaid
Employed at "Sweet granny goose's daycare and child sitting services".
Probably a semi truck driver
You know it's a badass lock when LPL spends 4 mins on a lock trying to pick it, instead of the usual 20 seconds.
I immediately went to see how much they cost and was shocked! Might buy one for my man as a gift. If it is LPL-approved he will love it, we love these videos!
The company I drive for uses these locks on our trailers during transport. It's refreshing to both see its pick resistance and to see it get the LPL endorsement.
Finally a tear down of a good lock, thanks LPL. Nice job on the open as well.
We have Abloy 350s at my place of work for when higher security is needed off of the warehouse premises, and I dropped it on my foot once.
I got a pretty nice click out of 2 and some good binding on 3 for the next couple days. And I'm not talking about the lock.
You could have removed the set screw, closed the lock and locked it to remove the tool and then unscrew the core cap to disassemble :)
Jaakko Fagerlund I realized that as I was unscrewing the retainer, then decided not to draw attention to my mental lapse. 😜
Wow, I guess my company made a damn fine choice to lock up semi trailers. Ive had the same Abloy since I started trucking and for 8 months this thing ridden on the door clasps of my trailers, being horrendously jostled and rocked for 10 hours a day as I drive and the only damage so far is a couple chips out of the top of the pad. I knew it was a tough son of a bitch, but I didnt know it was LPL approved
Nice steady friend you got there :)
Good content as always !
Stable friend? I didn't know he was a rancher.
@@nopenope7184 Damned, edited. The moment when you switch languages for one word and it f*cks up your sentence ._.
Thanks though :D
@@KagaminaraShikatsu I meant it more as a joke, but that's ok.
Stable friend, was a perfectly acceptable phrase. It just so happens that it could also refer to a horse
@@ouzoloves Got it, thanks for that :3
Abloy are the only locks we have in finland so it's good to hear you like them
Also have you ever tried picking abloys newer design?
Their first used to be like the one in the video but a little bit bigger and the flat part of the D was curved aswell.
Their newest one is almost hourglass shaped
@@Zorkz protec 2?
What about Assa?
@@tinpicker8688 Yeah that one
@@gary_rumain_you_peons that's the same thing as abloy
Thank you for your recommendation! You just saved my bike from being stolen! A break in happened in our building's storage room and they broke the hasp thankfully the lock held up!
Love your videos. I'm a maintenance technician and everything I have learned from your videos has been very helpful. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge.
1 was given 3 of these years ago. They are hard enough to open with the key let alone a pick! I've only ever toyed with basic stuff, I appreciate the skill involved watching your videos.
When he says I haven’t done this before it’s so exciting! This was a great episode.
You usually open locks in the same amount it takes me to open a can of coke,
this must be one hell of a lock
Best lock you can have as a truck driver. Been using these for five+ years, even had someone try to slice through it with a torch and bolt cutters and you could barely tell. These put up with a lot of dirt, rain, snow, ice, etc being in travel most of their lives and work flawlessly through it all.
Another excellent video. I also appreciate you mentioning what locks are better or best. The rest of us "normal" humans need feedback to what is a really good lock.
Like I told Bosnian Bill, this is much better than politics. Thanks for the meditation.
"were going to pretend this vice is a friend-" hit too close too home
*smiles at drink in hand*
Help me
I'm a truck driver for a LARGE U.S. carrier, they use Abloy pad locks just like this but with a different key shape. Great to know these locks are LDL approved =) You should get your hands on a kingpin lock and try and get it off while attached to a trailer!
I use Abloys here. I have several. I am pleased to see that they are such high security. They are very well made and simple to operate, key retaining padlocks.
Great seeing an expert challenged in their respective vocation for once!
Awesome job both on the pick and the picking of that Abloy Classic.
Daz Evers Thanks, though credit on the pick mostly goes to HuxleyPig. 👍
Always straight to the point, always crediting the rightful people, always saying the video number when referencing own video. Goddamn, most professional youtuber, HANDS DOWN.
Using this tool makes you understand every movement if you pay attention at the hole on top of the tool. I love seeing you picking locks that dont have a key its like a mystery 😁😁
I bought one of these in a thrift store with one key. Had to struggle to keep my poker face from breaking into a big grin before I got out the door!
I’ve used these for years but damn.. I never knew they were THAT badass. I mean to lpl they may not be too big of a deal but any lock that makes it past 3 minutes on an lpl video that he says he uses is a true boss level lock lol
These locks are as standard where I work. I work for an electricity distribution company and all the gear and buildings are protected by several of these locks at a time. The ones we use are the newer protec 2 cores. I know they are very expensive but are clearly brilliant for their purposes. I am lucky I have a master key for these locks as I sure as hell would hate to pick one! Great job btw LPL
the company I last drove a truck for used these. They claimed they were $300 each (I found them online for $80) and I had to use them on the trailers AND the steering lock EVERY SINGLE TIME I PARKED.
and I worked there for 6.5 years, and had to park several times a day.
"Not sure what's holding us up" = another 15 seconds required.
I found this exact lock on the ground in a loading dock with the key in it. I could tell it was a good lock by the way the key felt inside it.
What did you do with it?
What a lock! Took me a little over 3 hrs to pick the 341 with the chinese knockoff tool. Now to put in a new core and have a fine, usable lock. Perfect video to get these locks usable for a fraction of the cost of keyed locks.
Awesome to see the inside of a disk detainer lock now I have to continue going through your archive to see if there is a wafer core deconstruction lock so I can see the inside of one of them!
I found this relaxing to watch.
What I find bizarre is that this lock is commonly used in Finland for low security applications, and they use even better Abloys for “more important” stuff. Is Finland a nation of sport pickers or something? I would think picking is the *least* often used method of defeating a lock.
Well, Abloy has been here for over 120 years, so "buy finnish" :)
John Early It used to be that only a handful of people could pick these. But Finland has lots of rural locations far from the nearest police response, so locks need to delay burglars for a lot longer. LPL and other skilled people can pick this in 2 minutes, so only good where police can respond in 2 minutes.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 It would take far less than 2 minutes to grind through the spinner and the discs... and a lot less skill.
@@dlevi67 Sure, just you don't always wish to be heard.
@@paweskarzynski8068 That is true; the Finns are very good shooters!
I have two Abloy 241 that i have had for about 20 years, they have been used on everything from my garage door, motorbike chain and now securing my Kayak 12mm security wire rope, first class locks.
Really nice to see you recommend a lock... thank you 😜👍👍👍
i have a abloy lock from the 1950s and it still works like it was new
Would be a cool video if you can show us the process of choosing new internals and how to make a matching key
My company uses these to lock out semi-trailers. They’re good locks.
They can be cut through but it requires either a lot of strength and time, or, a really beefy cutting disk and time.
We have a security camera video of someone spending almost 15 minutes trying to get into one of our trailers at a drop yard. Took so long that our security guy just strolled over lazily and spooked him with a flashlight lol.
If someone wants to get into one of these, best bet is to just be prepared to cut it.
Omg I think this is the only lock that I got to pick before you. But I'm pretty sure you put it back together before me. I pick this lock when I lost my key somewhere in the mud but had a key from another lock but no core got super lucky that all to do was change the discs in a different combination. Boom I had a key and a lock that worked with no spare parts. I was already lucky just to pick it. Finding the way to pick it without a nice tool was hard enough. Awesome video wish it was out like 5 mouths ago would have came very handing but all good. 🔧🔩 thank you love your videos.
It would be interesting to see how you make the specialized tools you use for picking.
Jack
LPL and BosnianBill have a 6-part video series about creating this tool which they hope will in the future be made by a lockpick manufacturer. The series starts with LPL video [823].
Keep your lock in a vise!
Ave?
@@lockpickinglawyer You are skookum as frig!
@@lockpickinglawyer Chooching them doll hairs
If you know you know, AvE!
I’ve got quite a few of these locks laying around home as the company I work for uses them to lock up high voltage sub yards..I’m impressed he picked it but bolt cutters goes through them in about 5 seconds lol
This video is the first time I have seen a legitimate pick of an alloy
Incredible!
Your friend Vice has such a strong grip! :D
Hello
Abloy is actyally fun name, AB in the front comes from swedish word AktieBolag and L in the middle is Lukko (which means lock in english) and OY means (OsakeYhtiö) , so thats how you get name ABLOY.
here is wiki link to what AB and OY means in details.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osakeyhti%C3%B6
-Best regads
Some finnish person.
I've never seen this style of lock gutted before. Thank you.
Fantastic picking. Looks like the same type of lock on out pop machine. It has that half moon.
{pauses video near end} {takes screenshot} {measures angles} {starts filing down metal stock} The master key shall be ours, oh yes.
Given there's a few hundreds of thousands of these around, good luck in finding one where the master key fits... :-)
Well, he's going to change them. Mix and match, so that wouldn't work. Lol
As long as you don't have either (or any, there can be more than two) of the original keyed keys, there's really no way to reliably extract the master key from just this sample. Also, even if you did, that'd only be the master key to the series this lock comes from. With ten discs, five of which have multiple gates at two each, you have 32 different keys that would work in _this_ lock. One or more of these may work in other locks, but with just this sample, we have no way of knowing which.
Haha these are the locks my work uses for semi trailers.
Ours too. Prime inc.
Well nice to know Swift got something right...
This looks like the exact one I accidentally left in Dallas, TX. Was a pretty pricey padlock but being made out of boron steel, and not being familiar with padlocks, I thought this thing was indestructible!
Good to see you picking these locks. Would be nice to know what you're doing inside, how you're doing it and what you're looking for/feeling etc. i.e. Could you add an instructional bit?
I have an abloy 341 with no key also, but I completely lack the skills to get into it non destructively.. if you want another one your welcome to have it..
Russell Warren thanks for the offer, but I just got five of these without keys for $20. I’m set. 👍
@@lockpickinglawyer no problem.
I’m trying to learn and am trying to find ones on eBay and whatnot. What sort of $ do you want?
Nice if lpl says it's tricky that means it's nigh on impossible for us ordinary plebs.... I'll look out for those Abloy locks.
I work in a distribution center, and whenever we get a trailer that they forgot to unlock i get the pleasure to come and delock it.
Well low and behold, I came upon this beaut. The 4 foot bolt cutters weren't doing the trick so I quickly moved on to the angle grinder. Had the lock off in less than a minute. But as soon as I saw what the core looked like I immediately wanted to see if LPL had already picked it.
I knew it was going to be a step above the rest, but I didn't know it was going to be such a gem. Going to add it to my broken lock collection in my toolbox 😁
They drop the trailer?? Because that is a $$ lock. Just ask the driver to remove it.. just saying as a trucker I'd be pissed if ya cut up my locks.
I took mine apart before watching this (with the key, though). It’s also laser marked ‘The Enforcer’ and similarly to yours also has a key number stamped in - and it’s got a few master discs as well.
It’s good you rekeyed yours! Mine has 0 cut discs in slots 1 through 4, master discs in 5 through 8, only 10 is a control disc although I guess the spinner is too, and there isn’t a single false gate nor anti-pick disc in the lot.
It just occurred to me: In the "Lockpicking Video" racket, a mild case of OCPD--a disorder characterized by an excessive concern with attention to detail and orderliness--is a feature not a bug.
Another GREAT video, LPL, thanks.
Well, anything keeping you out for a good 3 mins gets my vote!
These padlocks are common in the trucking industry in the United States. A lot of the larger trucking companies use this model.
Had to look up this video as a truck driver left this lock on a trailer and didn’t take it off. The dread on my bosses face when I said it was boron based and that you liked this lock was perfect
Would like to see the reassembly process with new disks and 🔑
"And next up on the autopsy table today we have........"
I just bought 5 of these all keyed alike off of the Facebook marketplace, had no idea they were disc detainers until after I had them in hand. They will be useful in securing some stuff, maybe I’ll be able to pick one of them someday.
I bought one of these off eBay with no key and have been trying to make my own pick to open it up. Thanks for the video.
Can you do a video showing us how a locksmith (or someone of equal competency) would go about re-keying a pin or disc lock?
Great video! Picking abloys is really gun and I enjoyed your tool and picking very much! Nice machining and very clean technique! Do you want to go for other abloys too? 😃👍
Pretty good for year 1919 design, right? This lock core is literally called Abloy Classic. Since then they have produced Abloy Profile (pretty similar to Classic but the key has been profiled more aggressively), Abloy Disklock Pro, Abloy Exec, Abloy Sento, Abloy Protec and Abloy Protec 2. And that's just the cores worth mentioning. As far as I know, Protec 2 has been picked by total of 3 people in the world and only one (idanhurja) has publicly shown the picking tools actually used.
I work for a company that uses this brand locks. Glad to see they are very secure!
Have you tried the new or new'ish abloys ? Here in Finland 99.999% of the houses have abloy locks, if not 100%. Haven't even seen anyone without one on their front door but it's usually the newer variants.
There are some iLOQs, especially in apartment buildings. And then a nearly non-existant number of others.
re-keying the abbloy 341? that reminds me i passed by the CT assa aboy factory a few days ago but arrived to late to take the tour (traffic) . its address is 110 Sargent Dr LOL!!!
bird718 Would that be a US division or a translation of their Finnish factory address?
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 Sargent & Greenleaf is a famous (well, at least a little bit famous) American brand of high security combination locks.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563
its the location of the old sargent factory from the 1800's when the sargent brothers moved production from nyc to new haven CT USA. assa brought sargent in 1996 and its sub divisions. they make locks in the 300,000+feet factory and other buildings on its 30 acre property. Yale is also in the same state but in the middle of nowhere in a town called Berlin CT.
Your final comment about it being a disappointment, it wasn't entirely clear to me exactly why it was so. This is the first vaguely critical statement I have ever made on this channel, you are one of the most professional and competent humans I have ever encountered.
What an artisan's work this tools. Tip my hat!
I'd love a more in-depth explanation of how these locks work and how the master key would work.
Buy one off eBay.... get a screwdriver open her up.. Learn it inside and out.
i think the seller knew that you didn’t need a key for the lock
I'm not really into lock-picking, I don't have the patience for it. I really do enjoy watching your videos. You should have shown rebuilding the lock, that would have been really interesting
I think you are right about the impossibly hard method of trying to pick and hold the lock.
I think there is a way to build a tool that tensions the front without a tensioning nose.