The PewDiePipeline: how racist humor leads to violence
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This video examines the Alt Right Pipeline and the Pyramid of Violence that leads from implicit bias to edgy humor to violence.
CONTENT WARNINGS:
This video contains:
-Racist symbols and imagery
-Racist rallies and hate speech
(explicit slurs have been removed)
-Discussion of the Charlottesville tragedy
-Confrontations between racists and ethnic minorities/Native Americans
(If I'm missing any CWs please let me know and I'll add them here)
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How White Nationalism Courts Internet Nerd Culture
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ContraPoints: Decrypting the Alt Right
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Inside CZcams's Far Right Radicalization Factory
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Kellyanne Conway's stunningly irresponsible advice
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All you dorks who are coming to comment "this is like saying video games cause violence:"
This video gets this comment a hundred times a day from edgelord dorks and it's lazy deflection. There is no similarity between what is being said here and the "video games cause violence" scares.
I hate "logical fallacy" dudebro rhetoric but this is a clear strawman. Saying "x causes y" is not inherently the same as saying "video games cause violence." That's lazy BS and just shows you either didn't watch the video or you're being intellectually lazy and disingenuous.
Nobody is saying there is something inherently wrong with humor. I am saying that being permissive of racism and bigotry leads to an increase in racism and bigotry. Which is backed by countless studies and pretty obvious.
Violent video games generally don't lead to violent behavior in mentally healthy people but if you had a video game which promoted fascism that would clearly benefit fascism. Those are two different things entitely, and if you deny that you are a numbskull.
funny how it was mainstream people being edgy 4 years ago and now every instagram comment section is just a cesspool of open bigotry
no fr its so fuckin bad on there
I was pretty young (like, middle school) when the whole PewDiePie vs. T-Series thing was going on, and, as an Indian person, it got to the point where I was being asked at lunch time if I was betraying India for being subscribed to PewDiePie and if I liked T-Series better just because I was Indian. I told them that I'd never heard of PewDiePie (I hadn't, I didn't have internet access because my parents were strict about such things) and I only knew what T-Series was because my mother liked to watch Bollywood music on the channel. This proceeded to turn directly into, in the later years, a lot of my white classmates calling Indian people names or even slurs, to the point where I would throw my lunch in the trash before sitting down because it was always cultural food that my grandmother would pack each morning. It makes me feel sick now, especially considering how much I genuinely enjoyed and do still enjoy being a member of my culture and having this rich heritage, but, as a 'gifted' autistic kid who presented as very nerdy in my younger years, I honestly felt like I did fall right into a lot of stereotypes, which were... often paired with a lot of really mean jokes that made me feel insecure about myself well into my teenage years. Suffice to say, this stuff does have an impact.
shout out to all of us who made it out the pipeline
For real! ❤❤
I feel like heavy chained weights fell off of my torsow
I almost fell into this. I think that what prevented me from being another hateful teenager were the fact that I was a latino girl, and I started seeing how I was using cringe culture and mean acts to mask off how insecure I felt. After therapy, meeting friends and finding things that made me happy, I changed my worldview completely.
So glad we both got out!!
@Jason Flake did you watch the video?
Latina girl and almost fell completely into it too! The journey might be long, but it’s worth it! Glad we got out
@Jason Flake true that how did you guess it?
Latino boy here, same here friend. 🇸🇻
"its just a joke!! Why are you being so sensitive?? WHy do you make everything political??" this is why
"political" is just double-speak for "something that I disagree with" .
The gamer recognises only :
two races : white and political
two genders : man and political
two sexualities : straight and political
@@authenticbaguette6673 cringe
@@authenticbaguette6673 ew
why y'all @ing me, I'm condemning this opinion that I'm quoting
"𝙥𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙡 𝙞𝙨 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙙𝙤𝙪𝙗𝙡𝙚-𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙖𝙠 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙨𝙤𝙢𝙚𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙄 𝙙𝙞𝙨𝙖𝙜𝙧𝙚𝙚 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝.
𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙜𝙖𝙢𝙚𝙧 𝙧𝙚𝙘𝙤𝙜𝙣𝙞𝙨𝙚𝙨 𝙤𝙣𝙡𝙮 :
𝙩𝙬𝙤 𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙚𝙨 : 𝙬𝙝𝙞𝙩𝙚 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙥𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙡
𝙩𝙬𝙤 𝙜𝙚𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙨 : 𝙢𝙖𝙣 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙥𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙡
𝙩𝙬𝙤 𝙨𝙚𝙭𝙪𝙖𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙚𝙨 : 𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙥𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙡"
~ @Authentic Bastard
Oh? so He think's his wife Marzia, is a "Political" gender
lmao, "two races"? So you think he only knows two? then how did he know the asians? "two sexuality" he does support LGBTQ, So shut up. You think he's dumb?
Don’t mind me, just coming back after a year to retract my dislike and actually listen to what you have to say.
Welcome back 😉
NonCompete whoa hey! :) I’ve learned so much since then, I’m glad I got out of the pipeline. Your videos are great! Thanks for planting those seeds of doubt that brought me out of a dark place
Boopy Schmoops Welcome!
glad to have u back (:
That's big of you, I'm proud!
"its really not that deep" is a societal plague. Everything really is that deep. "Jokes", edgy humor, etc dont exist in a vacuum. Its all informed by our very complex and confusing world that most children and teens believe they understand but dont. No one does ever. The second we stop trying to understand the things we say and do, the jokes we make, how seemingly insignificant things connect to very far reaching and nuanced topics, is the second we are mentally crippling ourselves. Amazing video. Edgy humor leads to deep apathy for everything and quickly spirals into not only bigotry and harm, but depression and suicide. Just look at all the articles titled "the rise/epidemic of male lonliness". There has to be an overlap between this type of humor infiltrating male dominated spaces and whats going on socially. Jokes arent just jokes. Also look at how many comedians that use dark humor have some very seriously disturbing issues and mental illnesses. Everything is that deep and we are doing a serious disservice to ourselves by pretending that things just can mean nothing.
Wrong.
@@olivercharles2930youre gonna have to convince me on that. just coming on here and saying "actually no! youre wrong!" is pointless unless you at least try to rebuke these claims. Can you? Do you have a compelling argument at all? or do you just lack the will to analyze your own actions and self reflect...
@@halisternator calm down buddy. whoever is that is just a damn manchild that cant structure some argument or even a sentence. thats why this guy using "wrong,get mad,fatherless,no,nu uh,etc"
My brother is already at the verbal expression stage and i have no clue what to do. For context, he is 13 and probably said every single slur out there, explicitly states that he is a homophobe and probably a rasist as well. He is extremely hateful towards many people and it's just so messed up
Having taught middle schoolers for a couple years, I can say this is tough but probably not unsolvable. Is your family sympathetic to trying to steer your brother away from this behavior? Unfortunately teenagers at this age tend to be EXTREMELY socially oriented and highly value the approval of their peers, often over approval of family. Is your brother hanging out with fascists (online or offline)?
What kind of healthy activities is your brother interested in? Preferably something that is physical in nature and gets him outdoors and around other people?
One thing that often helps is offering support and just doing a lot of listening while gently offering alternatives to unhealthy language and behavior. You g teenagers have a LOT of emotions and confusion and it might take time but hopefully you can step in and be a counter-influence and show him a better way, maybe introduce him to better people somehow. It's definitely difficult since there might be a tendency for him to see any criticism you offer as persecution so it will definitely take perseverance, patience, and a lot of listening and understanding, assuming he's like most teens.
@@klif4755 This guy just answered a comment on a four years old video, try to help someone and you attack him? Whats wrong with you?
The creator of Pepe says he does not identify with the alt-right and is hurt that his works have been appropriated by the alt-right.
Everyone uses every work, you don't give your works away because someone you don't like might have used it. Enjoy giving your enemies all the things 'your side' created.
@@vitalsignscritical ??? You're acting like meming is such a great achievement. Truth is, meming isn't a talent.
@@yuufeternal5837 Good memeing is a talent. Great meeming is a talent. Using bait and satire is a talent. Wit, charm and smarm. It's a bit like drawing, you can draw like a child (which might actually bee not giving them enough credit in some cases) or you can paint like Van Gogh or Picasso.
@@vitalsignscritical great satire is great. Meming is a hobby and requires no talent.....especially based on a template. I'd give the originiator of the template any kind of cred. I'd also give the template provider (aka Pepe's creator) his props, and especially agree with his stand against the alt-right appropriating his artwork.
@@yuufeternal5837 Generally I don't use templates. Besides good use of template can be skillful. Why stand with some old dumb boomer loser who's crying that there was a resurgence in people using his work, just some of that happening to be the self-identifying Alt-Right. So some losers want an ethnostate to stop 'white genocide' as they call it, replacement, don't pay them any heed. Their numbers are small their support is small, all they need is someone to acknowledge them.
7:32 I'd argue "You're not a real woman." is already at verbal expression, something like "Oh you look so good for a trans woman!" would be a microagression.
@Samuel Levy I'd argue that trans people are a reaction to a society that assigns genders to random traits. Strength is 'masculine', being good at cooking is 'feminine', etc. As such, woman would be 'a person with female reproductive organs', and transgender individuals don't really exist, they've just been told (incorrectly) that traits they possess, such as the desire to appear attractive in a certain way, do not belong to their sex, and they need to pick the traits or their sex, so they took the traits instead of conforming and destroying a part of themselves.
While this is my personal experience, I'd say that a perfect society for humans would simply allow any trait, physical or mental, to be worn by any individual if they so choose, and as such there would be no transgender individuals. In the meantime, other, very real 'marginal' sexualities would probably be the majority, as hetero is only as common as it is because once upon a time everyone needed to be making babies.
@Samuel Levy they weren’t random to the society that made them, that might’ve been a bad word choice. But they are arbitrary. People like to talk about how ‘the average man’ is stronger than ‘the average woman’, while forgetting that these statistics are ridiculous. The average man and woman don’t exist, there are simply slightly more many that are slightly stronger. And they don’t exist for the sake of existing - very few things do, and I never claimed as such - but they do exist to keep power in the hands of men. Some guys one day decided that they wanted submissive lovers and started treating women like they belonged in the camp, or the home, or wherever their society was at the time.
The religious perspective is not relevant to this discussion, but anyone who hates entire groups of people without knowing all their members follows the wrathful Yahweh, not the scornful OR the kind Jesus. Don’t bring it up again, it doesn’t help your case.
Are we talking off-right meme Darwinism here, where if someone is weaker than you they deserve to get shanked? Because it sure sounds like it. Modern society exists in rejection of nature: we evolve in faster and less destructive ways now, and our compassion and intelligence is leading that charge, both of which are things that aren’t selected easily for by constant battle.
Okay, now that that’s done, let’s deal with the rest of that statement assuming you meant scientific Darwinism and NOT political Darwinism: still no. The natural world shows us that a) there are tons of different and provably valid ways to structure a social species in order to ensure their survival, and b) animals, particularly mammals, definitely have gay and bisexual members who are not ostracized. Let’s focus on a for a bit.
Okay: lion prides are top-down structures where the ‘best’ male and female are leaders (in a sense). When hunting, the males are scary, but their job is typically to chase the prey into the females, who are still fresh.
Ant colonies have no leaders, just a set of chemical signals that reinforce certain behaviours. Females are workers, males exist to have sex and then die.
Wolves have a pack, where all are treated equally so long as you aid in the hunt. No distinction is made - unless you’re dealing with kids, where you might be training them.
Point is: nature doesn’t have a single way families structure themselves. As such, who cares which one humans have, or if we even have only one? There isn’t a universally right choice, so individuals should pick the one that works best for them, be it ‘man hunting fish while woman makes babies’, ‘both sides working their office jobs because strength isn’t a requirement for contributing in a workplace anymore’, or even ‘person with multiple partners’. We’re living in an age of experimentation, and if you get it wrong? Well, that’s part of being human - you fuckin’ try something else. People who insist that there’s only one correct way to live are the main wrong people here, because it isn’t a mental illness if it doesn’t hurt them, and the only thing that hurts trans people are those like you.
Since you’re so in favour of ‘survival of the fittest’, let me tell you this. Your ideology is outdated, and it’s holding humanity back. Some stranger on the internet sure isn’t going to change what you believe, though he can provide a different viewpoint to people watching. So when you’re looking at this, and see how I’m always explaining away, notice how I’m explaining why he’s wrong, and he’s going to cherry pick parts of my statements that he can attack while ignoring the rest.
I dare you to do that, Samuel. Be the Alt-Right racist, sexist, everything-phobic person everyone expects you to be. Or don’t. You don’t have to admit I’m right to argue with me on even terms, but continuing to play with cheap debate tactics proves that you don’t understand where you stand on.
Samuel Levy the sex binary as well as the gender binary are more nuanced than you would think. The science is pretty fascinating if you’re into like books and stuff. Try “Delusions of Gender”.
@Samuel Levy I bet you're fun at parties. A woman is an adult with 2 X's cry about it
@@kirarakurokawa8747 I think I’ll just point you towards my other comments and be done for the day. Thank you.
I'm tired of the sexist "jokes" 😭 they say the word joke as an excuse to get away by degrading a whole group of people and it's just not okay. We don't have to sit here and just take it all the time. Instagram is so full of it now. It's sad.
I myself have gotten extremely exhausted of correcting people and the jokes they make about sexism.
It's exhausting. Honestly.
Thanx for respecting women…. Bro.
Intolerant humour is ruined by Intolerant people who make the subject of the joke, that being minorities, the punchline as well
legit, all those girls vs boys memes turned me into a self-loathing misogynist a couple years back. glad i snapped out of it
Right because there were so many people degrading Rihanna on insta all because she was on a cover with her husband and the husband was holding her baby instead of her
this video looks like it was made today, it scared me that it was made 4 years ago
Joe Rogan talking about how cultures in the middle east having been unchanged for a really long time is possibly the least informed thing ive heard someone say in a while.
Joe Rogan will be the first to admit that he never knows what he’s talking about. He’s really a pretty great guy but he’s just is too gullible and doesn’t really understand the greater context surrounding everything. Also the podcast he had Alex Jones on was hilarious one of the funniest podcasts I’ve ever listened to.
some of its worth noting. islamic countries and places like china are pretty oppressive. not everyone, but it does seem prominent in their culture. not saying the people are bad either. one of the great things about the us is they come here and i have friends who are bengali that want to date outside their culture which probably wouldnt be possible if they lived in bangladesh, but in america it is easy.
_ Heart under Blade It's complicated.
They probably are like that not because of their culture(in medieval times they were quite a bit more progressive than Europe) it's probably that their recent history has made them into authoritarian states and extremism in their governments is a response to the past and it's quite probable that they hung to an extreme because it seemed like the best thing.
They will probably become more progressive with time.
It’s not that they haven’t changed, it’s that places like Saudi Arabia has regressed back to the late Iron Age.
The Ottomans were remarkably progressive compared to their European and Middle Eastern/West Asian counterparts.
After the Ottomans collapsed, things like Wahhabism took over, and now the place is a hellhole.
The British had promised to back The more moderate Hashemites in Arabia, but the house of Saud conquered them.
i mean in my opinion, the social medias have a much bigger role to play than ppl will admit, ive been recommended anti-feminist videos, "sjw" memes and quite obvious beginnings of the alt right pipeline in youtube and tiktok even though im far left and a lot of my feed is feminist, im pretty sure they're actively pushing this
One of the reasons could be, that CZcams actively promotes videos it deems "easily sharable" and those videos are often circulated directly more than the average content, making them promoted even more in indirect manners, like the front page of a random set of people.
If you cannot handle the mere presence of ideas that directly contract with your own on a social media platform on one side while paying no mind to those that are just as zealously nefarious on the other side, then that might be a problem that is entirely your own to deal with, and no one else’s.
@@tackywhale5664 you’re setting up a major false dichotomy; in what ways is progressive messaging equally nefarious to alt right messaging? And if political messaging can really be used for nefarious purposes, isn’t it then understandable to not want there to be algorithm induced pipelines that can rope viewers into radicalization?
@@MariaSantos-uo3pb False. There is bad right-wing radicalization, and bad left-wing radicalization. All of BreadTube lies firmly on the line of or past the line of the latter, especially this channel.
Yet who am I to be so optimistic as to expect you to actually comprehend and understand that reality?
@@tackywhale5664 you have, yet again, not provided anything beyond the vague description of “both sides bad”. Are you incapable of actually detailing how this is the case
I'm from India so, three years ago i got really into the Islamophobic rhetoric that's spreading in the country but what really saved me is that I started reading philosophy and sociology in free time and realised my mistake. I'm really glad that I didn't go down the pipeline like many of my friends have ://
4 years later… this behaviour is getting more and more rampant, shit is lowky scary
Look up right wing accelerationism. The FBI does practically nothing about this today, but swiftly killed Fred Hampton years back. Unfortunately it seems to only get worse
yeah
This video is like a terrible omen for the future. The jokes are getting edgier and worse.
@@Steve-yn3cswhose jokes wtf are you talking about?
@@RizZRizZ-people like you
There's a similar pipeline for older people on Facebook.
yes!! do you happen to know of any content similar to this on that subject??
I called Facebook the 4chan for elderly people
Ok boomer
The "I Baked You an Apple Pie-Pipeline...?"
I'm just kidding - you're absolutely right...
@@vreaum Sadly no. Most of this content on the, let's call it 4chan culture, is from people who were part of that and got out of it. Even if old people on Facebook get out of this pipeline, not many of them will create videos about that.
i feel so BAD. for the young Jewish kids that were huge fans of him for years and then he started doing this shit.
excuse me, He stopped doing this shit.
I'm Jewish and when my dad and uncle heard about the youtuber I used to watch so much when I was growing up did all of this they were LIVID
@@ksoimaqueso He made a joke so fucking terrible? It was a edgy fucking joke you would have to be a special brand of stupid to think he was actually anti Semitic.
Lol so you’d be saying the same thing if a female CZcamsr paid people to say “kill all men”? What if a black CZcamsr said “I hate all white people”? I don’t think Pewdiepie’s actually racist or whatever, but you can’t deny that he says shit that a racist would say🤷🏽♂️.
Started doing what? Made one shitty joke years ago? Ah yes I love the continued anti semitism he hasnt done ever again.
Its honestly kinda heartbreaking but at the same time uplifting to see so many coming back to this video exclaiming that they've escaped the pipeline. I went down it as well and made a lot of poor decisions because of it. Im just glad everyone has grown from it.
Yeah, it legit gives me a lot of hope!
and yet u listen to tyler the creator LMFAO guess some old habits cant be shaken eh?
@@bG-bs6ex yeah?
How insightful Alien Butthole
@@bG-bs6ex Tyler is one of the best musicians currently making music.
This perfectly encapsulates this "Andrew Tate Era" with influencers like Speed being one of the biggest icons. Sad reality indeed
What is your issue with speed? I think adin ross and especially Sneako are much more dangerous
@@leonthethird7494 fair enough, but you can't deny that Speed still spreading that "edgy humor" that's arguably worse than what 2016 Pewds was doing
@@matthewglenguir7204 Is his humor that edgy? if so then I would agree that he's as bad as pewdiepie but to be fair to speed, pewdiepie was older at the time and should have been more responsible.
@@matthewglenguir7204 tbh speed never seemed that edgy, people watch him because his crazy freakouts or whatever.
speed is edgy? i thought he just pulled his dick out and screamed loud on streams
I used to like "dark humour" (edgy jokes) and even joined a Facebook group because I thought that the idea was to laugh at people who held those edgy beliefs as truth. Like "haha he's promiscuous because he's gay" - 'who ACTUALLY thinks like that? Only idiots, and we are laughing at those idiots, right?', I innocently thought. Wrong. The more posts they made, the more they showed their true selves. I stopped participating, but I kept watching because I felt morbid curiority and a little bit of hope - they MUST've been joking... I mean, that WAS a dark HUMOUR site, right?
...Someone posted a photo of an African-American hanging from a tree, with the caption 'I'm sure he was gay lol'.
I was horrified. I tried reporting it, but the 'mods' of the group somehow knew it was me who reported it. They publicly shamed me for "being oversentitive and a traitor" or something along those lines. I left the group, baffled. It was my first encounter ever with an openly racist and homophobic group.
Since then, I despise "dark humour" and I'm instantly suspicious of anyone who seems to be disguising their racism as a joke. They eventually show their true colours.
I feel it's important to distinguish between two types of 'dark humor': macabre absurdism and schrodinger's bigotry, mainly because I rather like the first one and hate the second. There's a lot of funny to be had poking at bad things that happen, and for a lot of folks that functions as a coping mechanism for the bad things that have happened to or around them.
Also, I don't necessarily think the 'mods' actually /knew/ it was you that made the report: It might be possible that the reports weren't anonymized, but equally likely in my estimation is they just picked someone who hadn't posted in a while who didn't seem to have fallen fully down the rabbit hole to scapegoat (and gaslight any attempts by them to deny the allogations), and they happened to coincidently be correct: you have to remember that truth, in so far as it exists, isn't something that really matters to the right: They'll throw one 'innocent' potential member to the wolves if it means the further radicalization of their more committed membership, because they don't need you specifically: they just need people like you.
@@ookazi1000 It's good to know there are names for those kinds of humor, thank you!
Oh, and they knew it was me, they posted a screenshot of my report and let people lynch me. I thought reporting a post was anonymous, but somehow it wasn't :/
We have a saying in spanish: "Entre broma y broma, La verdad se asoma", basically translates to: "Between joke and joke, The truth looms out"
@@k-la-k6828 No recordaba ese refrán, muy cierto 😓
@@s.l.r.9407 Jaja es uno muy viejo
Edgy jokes often lead to hate disguised as humor, and then that leads to normalization of hate, however irrational the hate really is. Can say this because I've seen it happen in so many online communities.
This is why I only have used self depricating edgy jokes..
but whenever it was about mocking someone else or just laughing at their ethnicity, I wasn't feeling it because I didn't understand what makes it okay to.
@@mimvsa3521That's what I was just about to bring up! Self-deprecating jokes are something my old school therapist heavily warned me against.
The logic is is that if you say something enough times you will start to believe it. Self-deprecating jokes are in a way, kinda like self-harm. You can actually push yourself into becoming depressed, sad, and having low confidence.
That's a legitimate thing that can happen, and does happen. So, I'm so utterly surprised that racist, sexist, ablist, jokes are seen as *somehow* harmless. What you speak into reality can become your reality.
@@jewels3400 I would say that is a very person specific thing. Not everyone is going to be so affected by jokes. Some of us can work out context of a jokes intention.
i like your pfp
edit: my dumbass has had like horribly mispelled for a while and i just noticed, whoops
How did you even come to this conclusion?
Watching this after the whole Andrew Tate wave really shows how he nailed it with predicting the podcasts
Coming back here after seeing what's happening to trans people right now really hits different.
seriously
It’s horrible because even some of the comments on this video are missing the point entirely. "We as real women shouldn’t have to deal with the delusions of men" do they know how they sound? That is on the verbal level of the pyramid. THEY are going down the pipeline.
it’s terrifying, even if i don’t live in the us. i live in Canada. “not here”, they say. not yet, but it creeps closer
@@Eosinophyllisit’s (edit: _there_ )in Canada, too - New Brunswick and Saskatchewan just mandated that schools out trans kids to their parents
@@wilyriley_ the Manitoba PCs tried to, but fortunately everyone was so fed up with heather stefanson that we got a rare Manitoba W
Imagine declaring yourself an "Eco-fascist" and people say "Well, he said he isn't a nazi so he's reasonable"
Silver Shore What?
Eco-fascists are just fascists who have a good perspective on a single issue
@Silver Shore In what world his facism a left wing ideology??
@@finntobin3648 their fantasy world
@@finntobin3648 Fascism is a center authoritarian ideology.
Stochastic terrorism is like popcorn. You don’t know which ones will go off, or when it’ll happen, but to deny its inevitability and intentionality is absurd.
Even Soviet Union could not ban political jokes, and this guy is telling us to self censor to the degree that joking is not acceptable anymore. But if you have a population that like such jokes, then it’s already a problem, simply stop these joke won’t help
@@moonshadow7057 You should try watching the actual videos.
@@moonshadow7057 lmao tell me you haven't watched the video without telling me, you are allowed to make jokes but making the jokes "wishing death on someone" is gonna create terrorism. You need to separate real people and REAL events with your jokes
@Weyland Punani You should stop misunderstanding the very term propaganda and realise you're surrounded by it anyway.
@@Weyland_Punani that is NOT what propaganda is 😂😂
i cant believe how easy it is to fall into this pipeline. i was an insecure teenager and just craved validation from these edgy content creators on the internet. i only realised it was wrong once i realised that these "jokes" are sometimes not satire, and that people had actually believed it. and the only reason i was able to break out is because some of these jokes happened to target me and my race and gender. i was also lucky to be surrounded by a variety of different people, both online and irl, that made me realise that these jokes are too far. some people arent as lucky as me and then its too late, they are trapped in the pipeline
this! I was a young girl getting taught to hate feminists, but then I was ridiculed when I expressed what they indoctrinated me with because I too am a girl lol (especially with race thing, I remember feeling a bit weird when one of the meme pages I follow bragged about how he "likes foreign girls more because they are less baggage" )
Key phrase: _”*Sometimes*_ not satire.”
It’s almost as if these jokes being used and proclaimed, in an unironic and sincere manner as if they weren’t jokes-and not in an ironic and insincere manner, like they’re supposed to be-is the problem, rather than the jokes, alone, in and of themselves.
Apparently, neither you, nor anyone else who has watched and like this video (let alone the genius who made this vid) has ever once considered that fact.
Who would’ve thunk, eh?
tbh the new lefties are trying to groom children in kindergartens and push agenda into them
the pipeline isn’t good but way better than becoming some sjw
@@donnieraczynski572 what. who even thinks that people are grooming children and pushing agenda on them? Unless you're talking about their parents?
@@alaskabane5340 I love how you reply to his comment because it may possibly seem easy enough for you to tackle, but not mine.
Funny.
all I'll say is this: he literally did a "meme review" with Ben Shapiro. without explaining who this man is or why he's awful. the jokes weren't at his expense. he literally just exposed his millions of young impressionable fans to a man that spouts hateful, dangerous, misinformed, plain wrong, and fear-mongering rhetoric.
Thanks the modern left for single-handedly making the whole western world right wing. Now all European countries are voting right - far right governments. Pls keep doing your thing ❤️❤️
@@RadicalizedRadical”left wing bully me thats Why I vote the right wing”😭😭😢😥
Seriously how pathetic are you guys?
Gotta love the 'You cannot humanize my political opponents or you're a nazi' idea, what about apolitical channels including vaush without insulting them?
I used to be a PewDiePie fan. I became one after his worst scandals, and it's because I felt that his apologies seemed genuine and that his behavior reflected his promise to be more responsible and I respected that a lot. But, even though one could argue there were a lot of improvements, he still never took it seriously enough. I don't think I believe that he's a hateful person that wants to spread hate or misinformation, but like the video said, he is still actively participating in a system that is leading people towards extreme ideas. It's irresponsible and actively harmful it makes me sad.
@@jordanweber3381 yeah... people like pewdiepie are what you call "useful idiots". it's a political term to describe people who spread harmful ideologies through ignorance or misinformation, despite not being necessarily aware of it. while I cant say for certain what Felix is or is not as a person, he is very much part of a pipeline unfortunately, if he wants to admit that or not. and at this point his refusal to adress that and take responsibility for it, is kinda telling.
Honestly, that was a great explanation of microagressions, something everyone seemed to disregard as an SJW buzzword.
I've repeatedly explained that one to my parents and they still don't get it. It's honestly strange because my mom has EXPERIENCED microagressions because of her disability.
@@austinblackburn8095 okay AUSTIN
@@austinblackburn8095 nobody who experiences a microagression goes home and cries abt it. we dont talk abt them bc of our bruised feewings, its bc theyre a manifestation of bias and prejudice.
@@austinblackburn8095 who's this nebulous they youre talking abt here? i am a christian and ive never heard anyone be offended when i say amen. and also its rather ironic to complain abt people being easily offended, and then get offended when people say happy holidays. like why get all upset that people are simply trying to be nice?
@@jellysecret m.czcams.com/video/mAyLorS4fXc/video.html Here is people trying to use awoman since you have never heard it before and that is a congressman. As for happy holidays I don't particularly care what people say if they want to be nice or whatever, my issue is I've seen people demand people not say merry Christmas. As a not religious person I have no connection to Christmas outside its capitalistic version, I just don't like when people try to police language for something as stupid as wishing someone a merry Christmas.
"it's just memes... until it isnt" perfectly describes my journey with certain "edgy memes". I just wanted to have a guilty laugh at the absurdity of these concepts, however the deeper I went I realized that these people actually meant it. Its awful how some of these people think.
And that's why kids you don't get politics from memes
LOOOOOOL
This is exactly what happened to me when I was an active user on Google Plus, back when it was actually popular. I just liked the edgy jokes but the deeper I went (I was even subscribed to TheAmazingAtheist and Leafy at one point. Eew.) the more I realized "Oh shit they're not joking," and as arguments got more toxic I eventually left simply bc I got tired of even my most conservative ideas (which landed more in the realm of centrism) would be constantly challenged. The groups I was in weren't about memes. It was about pushing a toxic political agenda to recruit fascists and spread alt-right talking points. Glad I got out when I did.
Snowka your experience was quite similar to mine. I was on g+ when it was popular as well if you can call it that and it was my first social media account. I was mainly on there with an account dedicated to both dog training and Nintendo stuff and I still managed to run into a lot of the same things you talked about. Being 14 or 15 around the time anti SJW content was first on the scene and already being an amazing atheist viewer, I saw this as a “counter culture” to the “far left”. Being a “gamer” and Nintendo fan til this day I bought into channels like TheQuartering’s liberal means SJW Shtick. I thought dark humor was edgy and so I joined a dark humor community on G+. I noticed after awhile it was nothing but Nazi “humor” though with Jewish question and Hitler memes, but I didn’t want to look at it beyond “they’re joking” because I thought it would make me seem like an SJW. I’ll admit TJ (Amazing Atheist) has gotten better, but he recently thought college students drawing swastikas on buildings was just a setup from the left so he still has that mindset somewhat. As for who got me out of that rabbit hole I have to thank Kyle Kulinski and Vaush. After I noticed that much of the anti SJW movement wasn’t “reasonable liberals”, but actually propping up conservative arguments, Kyle served as a good wake up call to what I was originally for.. Vaush actually breaks down the current science of gender studies and feminism in a cogent way without making them caricatures. Sorry this was so long.
Conservative memes are ironic jokes. They do not lead to violence or hatred. That is the myth propagated by the left which is actually doing to the violence and the hating. Contrast Ben Shapiro with Antifa, Republican politicians with the hatred of the Democrats pointing fingers at everyone and calling them -ists and accusing them of things they didn't do while committing acts like blackface (Trudeau), using tax dollars for personal gain (Biden), affairs with staffers, and on and on.
The right casually dehumanizing and discriminating lgbt people. “We’re just protecting children!”
Lets proceed and imagine their ideal society . mmm i smell bullyimg and beating of gay kids. SUCH protection :')
@@nikhtzatzi they don't consider minorities people :/
so to them, yeah kids are protected... the ones that "matter" anyway :/
Kids are not gay or straight.
How about that? What is so wrong with waiting till they hit puberty?
@@fuct9569 Puberty first of all is like 9-13 yrs old, So its a good age ,im not gonna disagree with you there. but besides: Thats the point-that a kid doesnt care!!. Mentioning kids that human beings have romantic attractions-not sexual at all- shouldnt be an issue , except if suddenly the parents of the kid themselves are an issue , because the kid knows they have some kind of relationship. How about understanding , That this has nothing to do with sexuality, But about the fact that when kids dont know anything about differences between people, some, normatively bully other kids, And propably adults outside when they reach 16-17 yrs old. These things have actually happened, In real life. in contrast to the imaginary harm That a kid will be inflicted if for example see damn freddie mercury singing or whatever non straight looking person. Nothing, nothing, nothing to do about sex, we arent crazy except when our views are presented by PAYED contrarians.
@@fuct9569 you don’t get to choose when kids are attracted to anyone. Like I knew I liked girls way before I hit puberty. That’s not up to you or me. But we should make sure that the ones that are gay know that they are accepted in society and that there’s nothing wrong with being gay. Regardless of your religion. It’s never ok to dehumanize people simple for who they’re attracted to
I love to see people coming back and saying they've de-radicalised.
The worst thing is if you call out someone when they make a “ dark humor joke” that is blatantly offensive racist or homophobic then you get called a snowflake for not being a bigot, or sometimes they say “ you don’t get it”. Also people think political correctness is lame nowadays, I’d love to watch if you made a video about that.
When Trump was in discussion of trying to create his new Patriot Party should actually be called the Jester Party if all offensive jokes were not serious this entire time.
I used to dismiss pewdiepie as a useful idiot but seeing him hanging out in quarterings chat is what finally made me question if what he did was accidental at all.
Is he still doing that shit?
@CommunistLudicrum Really? Oof... He is making the "pewdiepie is not racist. He is just joking arround" defense harder every day.
When I first met my ex-partner, he was at the initital/early stages of entering this dark hole (I'm non-white, he is white). During out relationship, he was falling deeper and deeper in it that I unknowingly got so fucking depressed and extremely confused. Fortunately we broke up. I have left that rabbit-hole he tried to pull me down into. I honestly hope that he has grown and mature from that mindset....... it would be an awful waste if he's still that man I remember. I have cut all contact from him. I am much more healthier and happier. I wish him the same.
Glad you got out (and so did I!)
fun fact: the way I left the alt-right pipeline is that I was too kind to get to verbal expression. I couldn't look someone in the eyes and say that hateful stuff and I grew to be a lot more accepting
Glad you made it out!
so you're merely a coward?
@@gungaginga9772 No, a normal human who doesn't feel the need to hate groups of people just to get some form of fulfillment in their life.
@@skoovee Says the person who's whole personality is hating any and all things right of center.
@@zzzzzzz88 Bold assumption from one sentence.
please add an epilepsy warning! there is a lot of flashing lights and imagery that can cause seizures in the video
hope u dont mind if i comment to bump this up
@@hopelessly.lavenderly same
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Adding a fourth to this. The VHS style after-effects are overdone and obnoxiously distracting.
I completely agree-- seizure warnings are a must.
reading this comment section really gives me hope... there are so many people who managed to get out the pipeline before it went too far, and i really admire them for it.
Reading it actually makes me lose hope for humanity. So many people that couldn’t differentiate jokes from reality and fell into the clutches of more clever ppl who knew how to manipulate them. Not only that but they then decide to blame it on the jokes and people who make jokes instead of taking responsibility to themselves.
@@Hennessydream pls reflect on yourself as a human
As someone from Asia, I've noticed that the edgy humor from America has also made its way into some social media circles here in the Philippines. It's particularly evident on Facebook, where I've seen teenagers acting similarly to what the video mentioned. The microaggressions in racism they exhibit, joking loosely and even using the n-word, are truly disgusting. While they may not fully understand the specific issues faced by America, they still engage in similar racist remarks and actions, likely influenced by the creators they admire on big social media platforms. Unfortunately, these racist jokes are widely shared among teenagers and even adults on pages and posts. It's a concerning and ongoing trend that we should be mindful of and address. Just another evidence that prejudices like these are taught.
It's partly our education system not reinforcing the curriculum or educational strategies for the social media era, (in the case of kids or early teens) parents not doing anything to regulate smartphone usage or those FB groups being loosely moderates. What I am equally concerned about is the rise of Andrew Tate clones or goddamned antivaxxers on the Philippine internet. The rise of mobile games on phones capable of running almost AAA graphics certainly made the freaking colorist/racism/sexism worse.
The last social BS from America that I think of to be popular, has become proto/semi-mainstream in the PH.
@@BlackwatchCrazySix Yeah. I believe that parents and our education system don't pay as much attention to issues like this as we do because they weren't as immersed in social media as we are. As a result, they may be unsure about how to address this problem effectively. Personally, I also have witnessed young Filipinos on social media being influenced by content from figures like Andrew Tate, which I find demoralizing and regressive. These Western media influences have also seeped into our social media, shaping young minds with values that lack respect, equality, and appreciation for the diversity of human beings regardless of gender.
@@bamboozled8779good
100% I've seen this fairly common now in Facebook. It's really sad how their humor is based on this and can't see past the corruption
@@matthewglenguir7204 the left hates humour and that's why you will lose, clearly your enemies are able to bridge cultures where your ideas are rejected. So what does it say about you? Self reflection is tough when you have convenient scapegoats.
Clicking newest and not seeing hateful comments is freaking me out. People are never this respectful
Oh... I ban a LOT of nazis. But yeah there are a lot of cool folks too 😎
@@NonCompete Ah so that's why this comment section is so gay and cringe.
@@sekaiyoru01bro are you 12 ??? who uses gay as an insult anymore it’s not 2016
I didn't know that this had a name, but I was in the beginning of that pipeline around in the early-mid 2010s. I got out of it when I realized that the constant hating on people, even ones that I didn't like myself wasn't healthy and just made me feel shitty. Also, seeing some completely unveiled, shameless racism, sexism, holocaust denial etc. was fucking scary and I really don't want to be in that crowd.
SandboxArrow you know, everyone can tell my this comment alone that you didn’t watch the video.
Same. It was coontown for me, on reddit. I followed because it was funny and the racist terms they used were just... Clever. A few months in, and I started finding myself making the jokes in my head, and then later, making assumptions based on race. I unfollowed it when I found myself making racist assumptions, but I was in my late 20s, so a little more self aware than younger men. It's easy to get pulled in.
It's a lot better to live in real life and leave these internet cesspools for other less motivated people to worry with
@@UserName-ii1ce yep. the internet has a way of disconnecting socially awkward people from real responsibilities.
@SandboxArrow It sounds like you are unwilling to take the risk of examining your own attitudes and beliefs and finding you might stand guilty of things you nominally 'disavow.' There needs to be a positive element of compassion for those who say they stand against white supremacy, sexism, etc. There must be a value commitment to love and daringness to stake a stand for it that can be criticized as weak and foolish. If you refuse to acknowledge that and instead think everything devolves into logic, you still following a set of bad values that implicitly guide your thoughts and actions.
Joe Rogan is an expert on people from countries he would struggle to identify on a labeled map of the world.
lol bruh, if this isn't the most factual statement in existence
What do you mean by that?
George Nick it means that he’s talking a lot of shit about people from other countries and their cultures and promoting cultural homogeny despite being completely uneducated
@@yenTrey oh ok
@@yenTrey just like a lot of atheists sh*t on Islam and ignore other geopolitical elements that affect people from Middle East.
as someone who was living in canterbury when the christchurch shooting happened its honestly horrifying how much worse things have gotten in the past 4 years, especially with how rapidly things have escalated against queer people
i almost went down the pewdiepipeline back in 2015/2016 (my middle school years) when i was obsessed with leafyishere. i started thinking feminism was stupid and that openly calling myself a feminist would get me bullied. i mocked innocent men shot and killed by the police. i think what stopped me from becoming a full on nazbol outside of me growing out of being so stupid was me being a black girl lol. even though i was really stupid back then, i had enough sense to know that the alt-right did not want me and was not a safe place for me to go.
it took me a while, but i’m so grateful i found the left. great video!
Same. I was a big time chud in the 9th grade and heavily involved with Republican politics in 2016. I was a chauvinist and borderline fascist. Disagreed with America? You were a Communist to me. The problem was I was a black dude hanging around too many weird ass white friends on Xbox had me sounding like Mein Kampf to my own people for how much self hate I had.
Thought we were all lazy, everbody is unproductive etc and how only our dads left us, defended Trump too until this youtube commenter I was going back and forth with really had me questioning my politics and aggressive American Nationalism.
Short story 4 years later I'm a self declared Communist and a part of the Socialist Rifle Association 😂
@@ReckerFidelWOLF so glad you made it out too! it’s always great to meet other black communists.
@@randomperson-pt3lv Always a pleasing experience. We go through shit lol
Why were you black in those circles lmao
You’re not wrong for thinking that feminism past it’s second-wave incarnation is stupid.
And if you do somehow think that you’re wrong, then either you understandably came to that conclusion all on your own, or you decided to be blindly spoonfed everything and anything that breatubers like this guy you’re watching, here, are peddling to you, about that shit.
Jesus, the guy laughing at a girl dying. made me sick
@Timmy Carl Dark comedy (without some sort of consequence) is the lowest form of comedy.
@Timmy Carl I meant consequence. Someone saying Stalin was right is not very funny unless some consequences arise from that.
@@helicobacterpylori701 ok and?
@Timmy Carl Pedo jokes aren't the same as laughing about the recent death of someone for no reason. Sargon wasn't making a comedy show.
@Timmy Carl Saying something "shocking" is one of, if not the least creative way of making a joke ever. As many comedians will probably say, comedy that is punching down is cowardly.
The "It's just jokes" mentality is the reason why media literacy is more important than it ever has been.
I was a PewdiePie fan ever since I was a kid, and I honestly really looked up to him but being half black, once all the racism started it kinda just felt betraying once the bridge thing happened, and then the fans defending him at all cost made me feel I just didn’t fit in with this fan base anymore
Looking at Pewds now, it's kinda like looking at a friend in middle school that was sweet and funny and you wished he never changed. But, he did and now you're both different now.
SandboxArrow anyway who invited you
he ain't a bad person though
@@pixeled9683 well that's all subjective isn't it?
@@pixeled9683 him as a person doesn't have anything to do with his pipeline.
@@helloitsme8575 Then what does?
This video was the first step to my de-radicalization, and honestly, one of the best put-together videos on this topic that I've been able to find, thank you for producing this type of content, you fucking ROCK.
This is very kind of you to say and awesome to hear, I'm glad we both escaped the cespool of toxicity! Solidarity!
God bless you
I'm happy for you! I've heard that getting out of alt-right spaces is pretty difficult, I'm glad you were able to make a change :]
@@smokenotfire Trust me it is. The feeling of losing direction and a community is qthe hardest part of it.
U were never radicalized in the first place woth that pfp, quit virtue signaling
If someone feels it's necessary to say it's "for the lulz", it's not.
i was part of this pipeline. i was blinded by the fact that it was all "harmless" and "just a joke". i thought my incredibly bigoted beliefs were normal, and, even morally acceptable. i started realizing that i held identities that i actively mocked (ie. believing there's only two genders even though i don't feel like either of them). i fully freaked out and eventually snapped myself out of the pipeline. got rid of all my alt-right bigoted friends and i'm unlearning my past ideologies
Thank you for recognizing this and growing as a person!
based and brainpilled
I’m a woman and I almost fell down this pipeline. It started off harmless with just me making sexist jokes towards my own gender about how we’re not funny, how we should cook and clean.
It was eventually my boyfriend that taught me it’s sexist and degrading, and I should stop. I’m so glad I did, because I’m definitely happier.
@JSkopezz i'm a centrist that doesnt like sjw i must be desentizing in a way thats mentally perverse
@@glutentag_1423 so you're right wing
Me too i stopped when i had an epiphany one day about my own internalized misogyny
@@Amy-dq2lgtoo many "centrists" are just water down right wingers who dont wanna admit they are right wing
@@Amy-dq2lg -everyone who doesn't agree with far leftist things is right wing
hi, i wanted to thank you so much for this video. when i was 12-13 i started going down the pipeline - i watched videos like “ben shapiro rekts liberals” compilations and steven crowder and pewdiepie, as well as following meme pages that had offensive memes and surrounded myself with people who also seemed to be going down the pipeline, discord servers with self proclaimed conservatives who were much older than me and i would make offensive jokes with them that i deeply regret now and i don’t go a day without thinking about what i said and what i did. i started considering myself a conservative as well. obviously i’m 15 now and completely out of the pipeline but like i said i regret everything so much. even though i’ve been out of the pipeline i didn’t really understand why i was in it in the first place and what led to everything and what i believed and said and did until now. thank you so much for this video because this is such an important conversation to have and more people need to be educated on this. i know i can never fully atone for everything but i want to make sure other kids avoid going down the pipeline too. thank you
This is truly amazing to hear, thank you so much for sharing your story... please stay safe and be well!!!
Remember there's always the way where we reject these primitive ideas and take back what the bourgeoisie steals from us. Workers of the world unite
and now you're probably a radical twitter stan
watching pewdiepie isn't a bad thing he's just a content creator
@@pixeled9683 lol did you even watch that video? :D :D :D
took me a lot longer to walk away, and I went a lot farther down than I had realized. ended up becoming a misogynist abuser. something I still grapple with and refuse to forgive myself for. I'm glad you got out too. I'll never correct my mistakes but I can at least actively work to not make them again.
In middle school i was a big pewdiepie fan. I was young and ignorant and felt threatened by criticism thrown against him. I was introduced to him back in like 2013 when his videos were (at least from what I can remember) just silly voices and video games, by my older sister. We would watch his videos with my mom and it was a bonding experience. I don't know if he wasn't as much of an edgelord back then or if we had simply gotten lucky and didn't click on any videos that had offensive humor because I know my mom would haves shut it down if she witnessed it. I followed him up until middle school and participated in the meme culture a lot but eventually started to notice the signs that things were off and felt weirder watching him. The first thing I remember noticing was the fat shaming. I felt uncomfortable with how he always took the opportunity to punch down on people for their body. Everything else spiraled from that until I no longer noticed him as a lovable childhood figure, and instead as something closer to the type of person I would get bullied by. It's a strange thing to look back on, especially considering I have absolutely never been one to steer towards the alt right or internet edgelords. I'm glad I was already positively influenced by the compassionate people in my life that helped me form a good sense or morality before I had the chance to go down such a dangerous rabbit hole.
When someone says the phrase “cultural Marxist” with a straight face take everything they say with a grain of salt
Actually, just don't take anything they say at all tbh, at that point they've shown that it's all propagandistic talking points.
If someone says “cultural Marxist” you already know that they are saying nonsense, at best.
Cultural marxist is a dog-whistle that means "Jews", and someone unironically called me a cultural marxist because I was defending trans people... I'm convinced that the people that use that term don't even know what it means...
@YoYo-zo2kz He has apologized for most of what he's done. Still, the damage has been done. Apologies don't solve anything. Speaking out does. If PDP makes a clear statement about these things, he'd definitely lose subscribers, but he'd at least do something meaningful.
But what do you think about this? What does PewDiePie really believe?
@@souvikmitra6161CZcams is leftist that’s why
I knew Sargon was a dirtbag but openly laughing about a death of an innocent person is just above my head. Turn around folks. We need to solidarize with each other, not divide us.
Wait, did he? Out of curiosity where was it (timestamp)?
I'll take a shit on leftist solidarity
@@user-s9eu8ce9fw I think they're referring to the bit at 27:44
Sargon is apparently a UKIPer, so "racist dirtbag" would describe him pretty well.
HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US!!!
The people commenting "its irony bro" have missed the point completely lol
Or have they?
@@theangryholmesian4556 Yes, they have.
@@notrod5341 Maybe. But then again the whole point of the video is about how bigotry is often wrapped in layers of irony. So maybe they haven't missed the point.
ah yes, people can't make jokes you don't like
@@pixeled9683 Boy did you miss the point.
Can't believe this was made five years ago, it feels like it could've been made yesterday with how relevant it is
Im proud of all the people who are coming back to shoe their support for this video and the things talked about in it too.
And as a Black guy who was ironically once a neo nazi I'd also like to apologize to EVERYONE I hurt with my illogicality and anger.
Protect Trans Youth , Thank You White Allies, and Black Lives Matter.
Bruh you picked like the WORST time in history to support BLM, you should've jumped on the bandwagon 3 years ago and then went quiet when they stated getting exposed like everyone else. lol
if you don't know, the founders made-off with all your money in order to enrich their own lives. And, the full context of the original george floyd video was published months after all the rioting happened. AND, they only recently released the autopsy results for him which showed he died of an OD, not from the knee.
@@hidarling641 It has nothing to do with the organizers you're referring to. It's just a statement.
Second of all, "Two autopsy reports - one by a private medical examiner commissioned by Floyd’s family and another by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner - reached the same conclusion: that Floyd died of homicide, meaning death at the hands of someone else".
Black Lives Matter.
@@hidarling641 so all you got out of this was blm? You should rewatch the video and do some actual research on blm. Preferably unbiased sources
@@taryndonelson4560 There is no such thing as an unbiased source, especially for something as politically polarizing as BLM. And don't tell me BLM is not political: you people are the same ones who say "everything is political".
I tried my best to do research and what I got out of it was that they were a shady, exploitative, and even racist organization that used a lot of their money to buy their owners mansions. Hell, this isn't even "conspiracy" anymore. Normal news outlets have talked about this fairly recently as people realized they got duped.
Most of us black don’t support BLM organisations they are puppets to create more hate against us. Racism is a business
The only thing I remember about the rise of the alt right on CZcams is... how quiet it was..
Sure, cause everyone who's more conservative than you is alt-right
Watch those whistle blowers!
idontcare That’s not what he said dumbass. I know you right wing inbreds are all 3rd grade dropouts, but please learn to read.
Yes, I thought that as well. I think it's because anyone who disagreed with alt-right opinions would be barraged with hate so people went totally silent
@Electric Rain couldn't have said it better my dude
I found myself, during college, falling in this trap myself. My girlfriend at the time went to a tattoo place that had nacionalists and new-fascists as regulars and we got to know them. A few months later I found myself buying into their rethorics and found myself arguing with my Anthropology teachers about it, sometimes overly aggressive in tone.
Eventually she broke up with me and I resumed my normal readings. Spoke with my lecturers and apologized for my actions, I've been on a cleansing since then, it's been almost 6 years and I'm so happy I got out of that in time.
I spend my time now fighting those fascist ideas that are starting to rise in Portugal, starting by my parents who have been caught by the Facebook Pipeline aimed at boomers.
I deeply relate to this video dude, thank you so much for this.
@Nicolau Dyakov-Tinoco I was about to ask the same. It sure looks like it by the name
"facebook pipeline"
depends what you mean by that, usually the "facebook pipeline" doesn't lead to fascism
@@pixeled9683 far-right wing propaganda aimed at boomers, like my parents, is flooding Facebook in Portugal. That's what I meant by that... This worries me, especially my father who still remembers, and lived through it, the "lusotropicalism" propaganda from Estado Novo in Portugal. A lot of people here think fondly of the 50 years of fascist dictatorship and tend to forget the censorship and reppression during those times. A lot of far-right groups, and some populist leaders, are tackling these people through social media - especially on Facebook which where a lot of these people interact online nowadays without the knowledge and tools to filter information. They will easily believe in fake news and propaganda.
I just don't want to see my parents fall down that path.
@@megustachimichangas honestly, the same thing is happening in Brazil.
Destroy families cohesion and nations will crumble.
watching this video in 2023 and it's sickening how on the nose you were. this stochastic terrorism you mention has gone way too unchecked, and in the post covid/extremely politicized era we're in right now, we're at the higher stages of this hierarchy. the attempted outlaw of trans people, bills being passed that bar inclusive education, jim crow laws being reintroduced in some states, and even recently with the west passing off israel's genocide of palestine as "deserved" or "not my problem." i mostly speak about USA problems here, but it really is sickening to see. thank you for this video, it was really eye opening
@@illinketreng1654 so are you going to listen to exactly what your country has to say about it or are you going to form your own opinion? israel has been violent towards palestine for over 70 years, it didnt just start with october 7th. this is not a subject where you can consider both sides equally, because you have a huge governing power equipped with apocalyptic levels of weaponry vs a bunch of 20 something year olds in kufiya and headbands, most of whom are also victims of the apartheid being held over palestine.
since israel is built on stolen palestinian land, a lot of people agree that the land should be given back to palestinians. israeli people are living in the houses of palestinian people, look it up if you can, theres literally videos of them actively displacing palestinians and living in their homes, of soldiers threatening them. there is no way israel and palestine can co-exist in ‘peace’, because the moment this genocide stops, israel goes back to performing a quiet one, giving soldiers special privileges and allowing them to take from and kill whoever they see fit. (i would also like to clarify, getting land back from israel is not a revenge plot, palestinians have expressed that their campaign for a free palestine does not involve the consequent oppression of israelis, but re-claiming the land and homes that have been forcibly taken from them. the fact is that israelis are not the victims in this. all of them have homes to go back to but none of palestinians will if this continues.)
Tell me youre a bigot without telling me youre a nasty misogynistic bigot. Tiktok loves you, however, we do not
I was raised by a man who's on his way to becoming a fascist. I have struggled for years to understand how he convinced me he was right, and how it took so long for me to free myself. This helped me understand a lot of that process. Thank you.
I know exactly what you mean, I also have had a long process of deprogramming and unbrainwashing myself! Solidarity and I hope you're doing well these days... congrats on getting out!
@@NonCompete Thank you so much, friend. Wishing you all the best!
Glad I finally got to actually see this again now that I’m out of the pipeline, finally got to take back the dislike I gave it
That's awesome to hear, lol
Why?
@@Nimbereth chomp used to be on the pipeline and even disliked this video while he was still believing the pipeline. Now that he is out, he stumbled upon this video again and now agrees with the content.
@@glamdroth12 There is no such thing as a pewdiepie pipeline. In my opinion, it's just another scarecrow on the far left of youtube. The guy is just a comedian and Swedish gamer.
@@Nimbereth Yeah perhaps. I actually watch most of pewds videos. I don't consider him alt-right. I agree he's just some swedish gamer trying to have fun with his content. I don't think he is racist, and his apologies are actually sincere when he messes up. However, the alt-right pipeline is indisputably true. I don't think pewdiepipeline is a good name for it. Cause I don't see a strong connection.
I will say, a fair share of his supporters are alt-right... but that doesn't really matter since he denounces their behavior and creators shouldn't have to be responsible for their fans anyway. Anyway, my original post was just explaining the "Why?". But now I'm seeing that your question was mostly rhetorical xD
This vid was ahead of it's time.
True hopefully socialism will take a stronger root in our youth so they don't descend into this funnel
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 Isn't socialism an economic concept? Who's to say the workers can't sieze the means of production without being bigots?
@@harpot678 yes socialism is an economic system it's just that most people on the left aren't nazbols because they understand how dumb that is and how the bourgeoisie profits from nationalism. Also wdym when you say the workers can seize the means without being bigots? I think most socialists except the nazbol minority who barely understand politics aren't bigots.
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 I kind of just meant its really weird to conflate an economic system with a cultural one. Technically there isnt binding these two ideologies, not being a bigot and socialism. Also wasnt the ussr kind of racist?
@@harpot678 there are myths about the USSR being racist but I can assure you that is effective US propaganda at work. The USSR also made their own version of Israel in Russia where Jews could gather and feel safe in communities with Jews. Remember nationalism and racism are tools the bourgeoisie can use to divide the working class from uniting. Nationalism and ethnicity makes workers ignore their real enemy which is the bourgeoisie. The USSR was even called cultural Bolsheviks as a conspiracy against them by the Nazis. This is where the modern day term cultural Marxists come from remember that if you hear a right wing nationalist say cultural Marxists they are talking about Jews which they think control leftist movements. I am also wondering what your definition of bigot is because bigot is somebody who is racist so yes socialists aren't bigots. Socialism is an economic system but remember extremely few have a cultural belief that is different from their economic one. Capitalists (I'm using the actual word capitalist as in an owner of capital not somebody who likes capitalism) are only culturally left if they think it benefits their profits and leftist are only culturally right wing if they are either just edgy or stupid and are mostly just fake leftists who don't understand socialism or communism
Thank god I came out of the edgy CZcams pipeline. I’m an autistic trans guy, started showing signs of dysphoria about age 11, also the age I started watching CZcamsrs like leafyishere. I think to some degree my autism and transness made me feel like I should be fitting in with the edgy humour around me to make more male friends. It’s a really weird thing, I should add that I’m White, and I always considered myself left wing and always shut down racist jokes, however there was a period where I was closer to the alt right at least to some degree. I joined in on the whole ‘sub to pewdiepie’ meme, when my friend at the time (who thankfully has also changed) would use the N word the most I would do is say ‘don’t say that!’ which is honestly just sickening and embarrassing to me now, especially considering the group I was in was very diverse, and that my Black friends heard that and likely felt a lot of pain from it.
It’s insane to me how easily I was swayed over into simply passively shutting down racist, homophobic and misogynistic jokes and attitudes, whereas nowadays if a White person said the N word knowing the history and weight, I would probably punch them lmfao.
I’m probably what many would consider radical left now, but I think one of the things I’ve noticed in my social circles and beliefs now is that there’s a lot more love. I’m a lot more focused on loving marginalised groups, supporting them however I can, finding friends at protests etc. my friend group in the left is so much more gentle and kind than my previous group of edgelords (who would still claim to be left wing lol)
Thankfully at least, me and most of that group are now normal people lmao, i came out as trans and unfortunately have lost almost all friends at school because of it in one way or another, but I’m much happier anyway. The other guys ended up as gym bros, but this seems to provide some sort of outlet for them, they seem a lot kinder to each other which is good to see, and even though I left the group because of their attitudes it’s nice seeing them grow. Unfortunately, one member of that friend group has been radicalised into the alt right, which I didn’t see coming but looking back there was always signs, and me being openly queer pushed him away- whenever I’d argue with his thoughts on queer people he would say I was being aggressive. I truly hope he comes out of it one day, but it doesn’t seem likely. I’m just glad change is possible for most people. Thanks so much for making this video and for creating someplace to talk like this!
"in my social circles there's a lot more love" this very much. I fell into this pipeline as a teenager and my social circle was sickening. I guess we were teenagers and didn't know anything about life and suffering, we were too stupid to feel compassion or something. I drew the line when I saw memes about suicide and trans ppl. later I realized I was trans too
omg dude did you go through a transmedical phase too??? i also hated systems... turns out i am one
I'm forever glad that many people here ended up wayyy nicer people after leaving that pipeline. it brings me more hope in a world growing with hatred
One issue- one of the most extreme stereotypes that queer people face is that we are more likely to be seen as predators. The contrast of "criminals, terrorists, promiscuous" is a little jarring.
I am queer myself so I certainly see your point. I was trying to give a range of variation in potential microaggressions/stereotypes. It wasn't at all meant to be exhaustive, certainly wasn't my intention if it came off that way!
Damn I’m getting breadtube on my recommended instead of Sargon videos! 12 year old me would’ve been angry and that’s a good sign what a time to be alive
I can't imagine having such ready access to things like Sargon or PewdiePie at 12. CZcams wasn't even a thing until I was 14 going on 15 and it was nothing like what it is now. It's so concerning to me to know kids of that age can see and absorb this stuff in a way that wasn't possible at the start of the millenium. I can't really imagine how this potentially impacts kids and the way they communicate and what teachers are dealing with in schools.
Can someone please explain to me what "Breadtube" is... half of my favorite youtubers keep saying it and i do not give a shit enough to look it up!~
@@Somniostatic Yeah, it's Leftist CZcams. "Bread" comes from the book The Conquest of Bread by Piotr Kropotkin, which is one of the foundational books of Anarcho-Communist political philosophy.
Often talking euphemistically about "Bread" is a way of signifying that you are a radical leftist, especially an anarchist communist. Philosophy Tube, Contrapoints, HBomberguy, Shaun, Three Arrows, and Thought Slime are on the overtly political end of Breadtube. But you can tell by guest voices and other connections that channels like Folding Ideas, Jenny Nicholson, NerdSync, and Lindsay Ellis are also often grouped into BreadTube, even if their content isn't as overtly political.
@@jacbe.9081 It is! Have you read the Bread Book? Our lord and savior, Bread Santa, holds many blessings in his bountiful beard!
@@jacbe.9081 Reading a nice book about Bread will kill millions? Oh no! I've read it twice! How many millions have I killed!?
Considering Pewds' fan base I'm genuinely surprised that there aren't more dislikes on this video.
he has been on a steady decline I think? Like his video's do pull in million views but his content have shifted from gaming so his fanbase have decreased. His subscribers versus his views is very vastly different.
It probably helps that this video doesn’t paint Pewdiepie as this alt right mastermind or Nazi. He claims he’s done racist things and is therefore probably racist, but that’s about the worst. The video portrays him as a possible gateway drug into bigotry and the alt right as opposed to being the biggest racist or facist in the world. It’s critical of him, but doesn’t act like he’s the main or even major source of the problem.
@@noahmclaughlin7921the video takes advantage of someone extremely popular for clicks, rolls back the gigantic claims about him after gaining those clicks, and throws around unprovable nonsense that only sounds logical after you’re bored to death with socially progressive ideas. Feels like one of my college classes
@@garret6464the ideas in this video are well researched and widely academically accepted. I hope you realize you're helping to prove the video with your comment.
@@anthonyn9030 the ideas in the video have absolutely nothing to do with the clickbait title and premise. Midwit logic hidden behind a veil of words words words words words to fool you into thinking there is substance here. It bit you I guess
This video was so ahead of its time.
right..cant beleive this was made before 2020
Non compete deserve this reputation back man, now people just know him as the guy vaush destroyed in fact and logic debate or something
good call on leaving pewdiepie mostly out of this while clearly explaining his and his communitys responsibility and ties with the alt right.
It was definitely smart. Wether Pewdiepie is a white supremicist or not isn’t the main point. I don’t think he’s a Nazi, but he has done racist things in the past. The point is how racist humor could lead people down a very slippery slope, and it’s important to be mindful of that.
@@noahmclaughlin7921 Dude could be racist but his content still has nothing to do with racism. Like, as a kid my best friend was my black neighbour, we got each other to say the n word like a machine gun, i never did use it with anyone other than him, but I still am not a racist person now that I'm an adult.
I used to actually believe the n word was a positive thing even.
@@BygoneT his material isn't created in a vacuum. He might not be making (overtly) racist videos, but he still has a hand in normalizing hate speech. Maybe rewatch the video?
And "i'm not racist, I had a black friend once" Isn't really the defence you think it is. As an adult you still condone your younger self constant usage of a racial slur against a minority. Maybe do some introspection?
@@ember9361 What does it even mean his stuff isn't in a vacuum? It's not an argument. If it's not directly related you can't make an argument about it. Pewdiepie is not part of a network. He is not part of racist groups, he is basically a no social contact celebrity.
I fundamentally disagree with the video, as I do usually with the idea that the mere (continuous) existence of X is a facilitator for it. It only works on some people.
We can and do make jokes or talk about murder in non condemning tone (For example in hypotheticals, or considering self defense or ethics attempting to find other cases where it's acceptable) but it doesn't make It less acceptable unless we already think it does.
You can advertise the kkk but it'll never get to join me because I disagree with its message and tenets, I always have. My father is a homophobe, I am not, I didn't need research to know homosexuals could adopt kids and do no harm, it's about the people themselves. No amount of manipulation or propaganda can get me to change my mind. And it has always been the case for me.
The comments as you can see are full of people who were going off to the deep end, so to speak.
I can't, for the life of me, relate to any of that. Racist, anti semitic, black humour, and the rest of them are about laughing over the ridiculousness of people genuinely thinking it's ok. It's copium turned to humour, otherwise we would be angry, furious or sad all the time. I actually follow some very alt right channels, and I have never been so surprised as I have in finding out what these people believe, it's really funny, what's less funny is that these people can vote. They have power, even if they're in a minority and i personally can't revoke their voting rights. I have to laugh about it, or i would be agonizing over the state of the world all day every day.
As for the black, you don't get what I said. It's not a defense, you can't defend from something you weren't accused of. I'm detailing my experience which you discard because it's widly outside the norm.
There was never I time I looked at some other black guy, whoever it was, and thought "What a n_ (=bad meaning)". It was quite the opposite.
Only my friend was one, and was only one if he did something incredible.
Can you even imagine my surprise when I found out it was a slur (Through call of duty and history class no less), used to dehumanize and demean people? Only because of their skin color. It really shows the scope of your understanding if you think I wrote what I did because "Uh oh, this is sensitive, I better raise the shield before I say anything so i don't get accused of being racist and I can make my point!", as I always I respect the other guy's intelligence and not insult you, to realise I'm not condoning, or approving of racism, but that's all people see these says, you included, sadly, since you didn't even consider another angle.
There is no approval or disapproval, my life was too different and my context too outside how others lived. I formed all my ideas own, and rejected most of the popular ones. It's just an example of how your lense doesn't apply. I had to learn of discrimination, I didn't have any in me, I got burned because of it even when a Romanian kid beat me up and pulled everything below my waist down in class.
The pewdietube, is a real insult to him as the guy clearly made some big mistakes, the biggest one being the shoutout, being careless enough not to check the channel.
And I, can't say i approve instead, of the people who slid to the far right because of jokes, clearly missing the point of that style, which isn't only about the people who really believe that stuff.
@@ember9361 Yes, if you were wondering, after reading the other comment, I do kind of watch a bit of everything, just to know what people think, that's why I'm here. I'm not here to do anything else.
People saying pewdiepie isn't racist should rethink that. If he is willing to say and do multiple racist things on camera what do you think he says in private?
@D H Yall didn't watch this video...
@D H Thanks, kid!
I mean what do you define as racist? Is just having prejudice against another person even if it's a micro aggression? Because if that's true then we all are a raicist. Or do you mean that your values and beliefs must be completely radical in order to be raicist. Because then PewDiePie isn't raicist because he isn't radical. I hear the word "anti raicist" used and I think it's a good way to put it. We all have some prejudice because that's in human nature but if we are self aware enough to look after them, and stop this pipeline even after we make mistakes we can atleast call ourselves that.
@D H Oof, Amy Schumer. I thought the world was done beating that particular dead horse. But yeah, your weirdly cultish devotion to a casually racist swede and your inability to fully get your thoughts out in a single reply are what makes me think you're a kid.
@D H Like, he said the N Word, but he could’ve done worse things, mkay?
Your logic is flawless.
Oh, poor little Adolf, he only killed 12e6+ people but he could've done worse things, therefore the things he did do don't matter?
I used to be super racist and such a disgusting person. I hate who I was, I hate how I let things slip pass my mind. I hate how I was sexist, homophobic, how I let people get away with those same things because they were my “friends”. I feel like such a hypocrite. When I say Black Lives Matter, I feel like I’m lying, like I’m doing for attention. So I’m really glad you spread this kind of content. Thank you ❤️
No you weren't
is it just their humor or are they genuinely like that
also black lives matter, the organization is bad though
@@pixeled9683
Black Lives Matter isn’t a bad movement. It addresses systemic issues that effect ethnic groups in negative ways.
Hey, there. I was the exact same way as a teenager, but slowly managed to migrate to the left. I'm glad you're here too
@@allydef The movement they’re referring to is actually called BLM. They use the name BLM so it separates it from the Black Lives Matter movement. BLM is a pathetic, far left extremist group that let their feelings get to their head, and because of that, 2 billion dollars worth of damages have been reported since the BLM riots. They looted buildings, tore down buildings, and burnt down buildings, all for the sake of a better future. They’re ignorant, naive people who indulge themselves into this fantasy of a utopia where everything is perfect and suffering is nonexistent.
this video ages like fine wine
beyond relieved i grew out of my edgelord phase. kids, don't watch filthy frank at age 11
the use of 'you'll never be a real woman' as an example of microaggressions is odd since its... very much at minimum at the verbal expression stage. like thats a very aggressive and hurtful thing to say thats really intentional and obvious in its harm. otherwise good video
I completely agree. I think a similar phrase, which is a better example of a microagression is "trans women and real women"
@jan osovsky The chromosomes can, and statistically will, lie as genes are accidentally carried over or removed from sexual chromosomes. Intersex people make up for a small but nonetheless non-negligible part of the population, and do have struggles that are important to acknowledge on their own (unwanted surgeries for example). It should be worth nothing that absolutely not all intersex people are sterile.
Also, and this is more of a sociology point: gender identity and expression are both historical in their existence and very much part of all societies to have existed prior. Gender-divergent (trans) folk have existed for millenia, so it's kinda hard to dismiss it as a fluke, a delusion or an aberration without losing your grip on the facts, yeah?
@jan osovsky I can see how you might mistakenly believe that lie if you never made it past 4th grade science.
@jan osovsky Now you're talking about something completely different. Gender has nothing to do with chromosomes, and chromosomes don't work the way you think they do. So now you've managed to be 3x as wrong. And I'll gladly oppress you. I'll oppress you all day long.
@jan osovsky mom can i oppress the majority with my minority power?
this is exactly what ive been trying to explain to people for so long. thank you so much for putting it into an informative and comprehensible way. im constantly worried about slipping up when trying to share what the issue with ‘edgy memes’ was and being labeled as a snowflake or some garbage like that, and this video is a fantastically polished explanation of the issue. thank you for making this
@SandboxArrow It all depends on the intent of whoever makes the joke. Making an edgy joke while actually believing in it's message is simply harmful, spreads a bad message and with enough exposure to that along with the "if u don't like it ur sensible and don't have a sense of humor" shit anyone can transform into a complete asshole. Like when people talk about warhammer praising how humanity is depicted in the game when the whole point is that humanity in warhammer is an stupid authoritarian regime. Of course warhammer itself is satire and that's not what the creators believe, but bad people appropriated the message and spread it as if it's good. The redpill meme is the worst case of that kind of shit, loads of incels and alt-righters appropriated an scene of the most progressive movie made by two trans creators so they can act like their fucked up ideologies are enlightened and the true meaning of waking up.
@SandboxArrow it depends on the context. What's the intent and who's saying it. I say offensive shit with my sister all the time, but we're both really liberal and we know they're just jokes. If a guy with a MAGA hat kept repeating anti-semitic jokes at nauseam though, it might just raise a few eyebrows.
@@newerest1 It's not the intent of the joke itself (even tough some are just horrible), it's the intent of who makes it. Anyone can laugh at edgy jokes about race or sexuality but when actual racist/homophobic people do it you know they mean it, and they normalize their bigotry to normies trough the jokes. It spreads like cancer. Lots of online spaces become radicalized trough edgy humour and reactionary tought, just like that gaming subreddit that got quarantined not so long ago because the "humour" became so rotten that it was all just like "haha trans people kill themselves".
@@lovebunny2652 but even if the intent wasnt to hurt, but just for lulz, it's still harmful. Bc for those memes to be even slightly funny, someone is purposefully exposing teens and kids and troubled ppl to these jokes and normalizing these jokes and desensitizing them to the validity of the concerns of the meme. And the ppl who mimic and post these memes, even if they are only in the beginning stages of indoctrination, are applauded by the ppl who actually believe and agree with it. And anyone who disagrees with their jokes and memes are called too sensitive, and the jokes are defended as being "just memes" "just jokes", even by those who TRULY believe it. So ppl can keep felling down the rabbit hole while saying "this isn't what I REALLY believe- it's just jokes!" Even if the intent wasn't malicious, the only ones applauding it are the ppl who don't know better, and the ppl who believe it.
@@Pomagranite167 Yes yes that's exactly right, i just coudn't find a better way of explaining it. The intent is not only to hurt people trough them but to normalize them, and that's the real problem. As i said, it spreads like cancer.
This video should be shown to everyone, those "invisible" dynamics are influencing so many people that are not aware of it.
And before that it's important to teach how the world is actually complicated and not only the simple one liners those people tend to tell to influence you, betting on the fact you will never make an opinion by yourself or get educated somehow
anyone else watching this in 2023 thinking about the "well well well" dog whistle...
Yeah that what happens when a old negative stereotype is reinforced by video evidence and no opposite argument is given the same spotlight.
Right so annoying
The what
UPDATE! 1/30/2020: for everyone saying this is "just my opinion" with no hard evidence, Cornell University recently did a comrpehensive study that documents exactly how platforming the ideas and personas of the "intellectual dark web" such as Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, etc., funnel people toward the alt right:
arxiv.org/abs/1908.08313
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Before you leave a comment, maybe check out Part 2. I respond to the most common comments/critiques there:
czcams.com/video/aqRCSzUTGcM/video.html
Funny that you think your critiques even bothered to watch this first video before commenting.
The creator of Pepe has repeatedly said he's not down w how Pepe is used. Pepe was supposed to be wholesome not distorted. Also these tatitics of gaslighting and playing the victim are the same tattics used by narcersists against their childern and other's.
This is a great video, you've gain a new subscriber
@@TaylorBroussardShow what even is this comment, and why do you care about the Pewdiepie thing rather than the actual topic of the video, when he does actually explain why he uses Pewdiepie. It's an argument that's way past the point that it just seeks to discredit him because "publicity to your opinion bad"
@@TaylorBroussardShow he made it about pewdiepie not only because it would attract views (and wanting to spread your idea widely is not something bad) but also because its a practical example of this and it helps people understand it better.
I've recently, for the first time ever, come into such an environment in real life - or at least into one that is in the very early stages of this. And it's honestly really scary.
It's a computer science class I'm taking, which is actually wonderful, I'm having a lot of fun learning and I would love to take some more courses on it on the side. But the environment in the group chats and online forums (which is where a lot of that class takes place, thanks to the virus) is so... uncomfortable.
I find myself, again and again, seeing memes being posted where I really can't tell how many layers of irony they're under and whether, at the core of that, they actually are homophobic or sexist. And I never say anything because I know people would make fun of me for being overly sensitive.
But recently, some guys were being disruptive and arguing about something petty, sprinkling offensive memes in, and were eventually banned. And after they were gone, and somebody asked if they were being kicked from the chat just for being annoying - somebody finally spoke up.
Some guy said "I think they were banned more because of the homophobic comments". And I had silently watched and immediately jumped on it, and said I agreed with that and I also found them homophobic. And within only a few seconds, several more people joined in and calmly, but firmly spoke up against that.
And that ended it. People shut up about it, at least that time.
Because I think a lot of them remembered in that moment that we were in a chat with over 200 people and some of us are, indeed, gay. And that we read everything they write, that we're humans and might not find it so funny.
And moments like that are important. But they can only happen if one of the moderators steps up and bans the guys posting racist stuff, and stop that climate from festering in these spaces.
Here is what I love about Tomska's statement. It attacks the ideology rather a group of people. It urges members of his audience to pause and reflect _if_ they find themselves thinking or feeling certain things. This approach speaks to people with respect. It assumes they are capable of making good decisions, rather than talking down to them.
This reminded me about the anti furrys they are just sending death treaths to group of furrys and its been so normalized that i have seen kids/teens just harrasing furrys. I have some anti furry saying they are gona trow tear gas/shoot up furcons and that is scary and i see some big content creators hate on furrys as a very bad joke but there are the people mostly teens that take it very foward. There are some big anti furrys group on discord , facebook , and even on tik tok is wild for sure.
im somebody who used to think furrys were cringe just to jump on the bandwagon. but as I got older and really started to think, I realized the hate for furrys was completely vile and uncalled for. I really feel for them just being themselves and expressing it in an unique way
Most of iFunny is that kind of content now too :(
the furry problem is complex, the furry community ignores too much a lot of bad shit that they do and shit that the people who run many very popular furry websites and companies openly do gross shit, its actually a massive problem in the community
I wonder how many of these dislikes come from people who didn't watch the video
comments too
I watched it all, and I disliked
@@samuelmarsden4227 why?
@@samuelmarsden4227 Congrats, you're unique among the 10,0000 others who disliked.
@@samuelmarsden4227 How come, would really like to know. I myself don't completely agree but I still enjoyed it and understood the main point
I watched this a long time ago and commented. It made sense but I was very skeptical. You responded and we had a good, brief convo (May have been on an alt). I wasn’t completely convinced but it made me investigate more. I’ve since realized that you were right. You were so totally right. Thanks for all you do comrade.
This is very cool to hear, thank you for having an open mind and investigating. I am actually working on part 3 now which goes much deeper into science on this stuff so stay tuned!
Workers of the world unite comrade
@@NonCompete I'm in the same boat as that guy. This is a tough video, but thank you so much for making it. It's a lot to go through
Why do you call each other comrades?
@@sofiab.9129 socialism and mutual aid go hand in hand but mutual aid only can only be human nature when you have solidarity amongst the proletariat and for solidarity you need comrades
It's crazy how relevant this video still is, especially since we're now in an era where some of the most influential people online are just openly alt-right, like Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, Sneako, Speed, and Ben Shapiro. My brother is a teenager, but thankfully, he's smart enough to understand just how ridiculous these "influencers" like Andrew Tate are. However, I still catch him saying things that can be offensive from time to time just because of the environment he's surrounded by being a high schooler. I myself fell into the alt-right pipeline back in 2016-2018 when I was in middle school despite being female, Hispanic, and bisexual while also struggling with my gender identity, so it's possible for this to happen to anyone. My own dad has fallen down this pipeline within the past year or so, and although he's always been right-wing, he's much more openly racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic than ever before. It's sad to see how miserable he is at his age just because other people he doesn't understand exist around him. He's far from being the only one either, as most adults now spend more time online and are being fed the same harmful information that's being shown to the children of this generation. It's just a terrible situation all around. I have faith that most of the children being taught that this is okay will mature and de-radicalize as they become older like I and so many others have, but I'm fearful for those who don't outgrow this phase.
Im shock and disgusted about how "tolerant" a lot of youg french people have become toward racism in recent year. And how some politicians have done that to...
"Occasionally I'll catch a glimpse of extreme prejudice within my own audience. Left unchecked, these ideologies can fester and evolve into violent acts. If you find yourself hating a group of people - people you've never even met - I beg you to reevaluate before it's too late" Thomas Ridgewell
Suppression of sentiment can fester and turn into violent acts.
sounds like the name of a 19th century philosopher
Equating violence with speech is one of the greatest mistakes our society is making right now.. yet again.
Humor is not violence.
Man, are people really this ignorant of history?
@@shadowling77777 did you not watch the video? Or are you willingly being obtuse?
@@elijah1636 tolerance of other ideologies is a fallacy. Tolerance of other people in spite of their ideologies is acceptable, because it makes them more likely to change those ideologies. There's a reason so many radical groups are gentle and unassuming at first, it's because that works. If you yell at people for their ideology, you just help them cling to it further. We want to kill the ideologies that breed intolerance, insulting people rarely goes along with that goal.
Commenting for the algorithm - I was an anti-sjw for a decade, started with The Amazing Atheist (I wish he'd start reflecting back on old videos and 'OWN' himself.) I viewed Sargon's stuff on a daily basis for around 3 years and became openly sexist and islamaphobic. A word to the atheists out there: if you don't have a God, choose love in spite of it because in my experience it's too easy to slip into nihilism instead.
Speaking as an atheist I try to live a life with humanist values.
tj (amazing atheist) has and has shifted his content to reflect how he's changed. he talked about it in a newer video
This comment pretty much summarises me. Once you get out of it, you look back in horror at yourself. It genuinely terrifies me the sort of things I used to believe.
@@filthyfrickenpig1757 In a recent video he refused to admit his anti-sjw content was wrong and he hasn't removed any of the vids, meaning he's probably still profiting off mocking/harrassing young trans people and strawmanning feminism (search out 'Transgender Bigot's Hate Speech!' or watch anything from 5 years ago.) Until he acknowledges and removes that crap I don't have any time for him.
Once people start making memes of that child who passed away and washed up on a beach I knew it was all over from there.
I have a feeling I could have fallen down the pipeline...
I heavily indulged in videos mocking autistic people, bullying "SJW"s, and in general videos being subtly racist. Hell I believe my father was queerphobic and racist (he made a little *too* many comments about "asian eyes" and he had a horribly homophobic meme on his facebook feed which you know. allys don't normally get recommended).
Eventually though these videos became boring to me due to the same points being made over and over about how SJW's care about "unimportant" things and how "cringe" autistic people act like infants. I internalized these sorts of things for a VERY long time and I am still unlearning them slowly.
I’ve always considered myself a leftist, read many book about politics, knew pipelines shit like this happened and was aware of their antics, that’s the scariest part. I subscribed to PewDiePie mainly for the whole ‘do not let a corporation be the biggest channel’ with T-Series and started to watch his videos and thought it was pretty ok, you know, not my kind of humor but I can see the appeal, and then I caught myself, a girl, saying WoMeN and laughing at it. That was the breaking point, I knew I needed to get out and quick, so I unsubscribed.
This only shows that their tactics work and even if we know they do and most important HOW they do it, we’re not imune and really have to watch our backs. Cause when you’re lest expecting you’re already in it.
“then I caught myself, a girl, saying WoMeN and laughing at it. That was the breaking point, I knew I needed to get out and quick, so I unsubscribed.”
You’re not even as much of a leftist as you though you were, then: you’re a Karen.
Throwback to 9th grade me. I for some reason decided I was an anti-SJW and watched only anti-SJW CZcamsrs after the middle of sophomore year i realized how close minded I was and honestly I’m so glad I re-evaluated myself. Honest to god I think it was internalized homophobia because I was really trying to figure out my sexuality and those were the videos that had been popping up at that time. Sorry for the rambling!
That was me in late middle school lol... a lot of us went through that phase I think.
You're doing the same thing now. Except you switched sides. How is that any different? You're still being fed by "CZcams Man" ramblings.
Imagine getting your entire political view from youtube personalities. Big yikes.
Read, study, go to political events from all sides, check their history, talk, debate, etc. That's how you are supposed to form an opinion.
For about a year I fell down that rabbit hole a bit. Lucky I was able to swim back up before I got swallowed.
Everyone should be anti-SJW. SJWs are a mockery to Social Justice.
The “warrior” bit is sarcastic, and not because Social Justice is something to be mocked. Social Justice is fantastic and something we should all be aiming for, but SJWs are the opposite of Social Justice.
Silencing those you disagree with, creating safe spaces, crying wolf and victimisation are far from Social Justice (they’re not even left wing ideals) and yet SJWs do nothing but that.
Want to see what real social justice is? Look at MLK. That’s what a social justice activist looks like. He wasn’t a social justice warrior.
Compare MLK to Buzzfeed and you’ll understand the difference quickly.
Glad you’ve opened yourself up and are finding yourself!
This video really did age like wine. And now with the help of tiktok the pipeline is wider.
I live I a very white slavic country and Pewdiepie was one of the first youtubers in English I watched, and let me tell you, I remember laughing at his racist jokes. I stopped watching him very quickly but I still remember how I repeated his jokes mindlessly. I think this video is important. Especially with CZcams being complicit and often recommending "anti-sjw" etc vids even to me who watches only socially conscious, pro trans etc youtubers. It sucks and social media CEOs should be held accountable for that.
Aditonnally I think that Pewdiepie IS responsible for his fans even a bit. He's not totally stupid and je knows how much influence he has on them and imo he doesn't denounce fascism or his other bigoted views strongly enough. If I found out that there are fascists in my fanbase I'd make sure they know that they're not welcome on my channel
I finally decided to watch this video. Innuendo studios brought me.
The scariest part of all of this, is the fact that these kids worship these youtubers that they know nothing about like they are gods. I saw recently a minecraft youtuber arguing with someone, and his audience just ripped the guy apart, without caring about who is right or wrong. It was disturbing to see.
And the worst part ? You could tell they were all kids and teens.. CZcamsrs have such a big influence on these lonely depressed kids, that they are willing to do anything for them, even if it's harming other people.
And like you said, most youtubers and streamers are scared to speak out, because they are afraid of losing subscribers and viewers, and let's not beat around the bush.. Most gamers are white heterosexual males, so it makes sense to be scared of making "political" statments in a fear of maybe losing your livelyhood.. having to choose between your business and beliefs, especially in this space, where everything can be gone in a minute is a very hard choice.
But I do applaud all youtubers and twitch streamers who don't let these bigots nest in their communities, not caring about the revenue loss and the backlash.
I remember first seeing this video when it came out, and looking back, yeah, its sad that 12k disliked it, either out of ignorance or just people outraged that edgy humor isn't always a good thing.
It's best thing bruh
Probably, raged Pewdiepie fans
Mainly because he thinks that jokes can lead to fucking mass shootings. Let me just say this jokes don't make you shoot up a Mosque. If you shoot up a Mosque you were already a fucking deranged lunatic to begin with. I don't like nazi's as much as the next person right my Grandad fought the Italian fascists in WW2 so I would never allow myself to develop those views for his namesake alone. Have I made edgy jokes about the Holocaust, 911 and Islam? Yes. Has it once crossed my mind that I want to commit an act of violence against a minority group for the sake of being a minority group? No I haven't and I never will. But in the eyes of this guy apparently I'm a fucking terrorist because I share edgy memes and are at fault for what some psychopath did halfway across the planet.
@@angrywelshman7207 geez, way to miss the point of the video.
@@aeircrown7994 To be honest, recommending more extremist right wing channels is a stretch for the PewDiePie thing, it was 1 channel in a long, long list in the description, which he stated that he recommended for its Death Note video essay. Though he should have been more investigative in his recommendations, I'm not sure it's accurate to accuse him of spreading Anti-Semetic rhetoric.
The amount of comments using microaggressions and outright bigoted statements to refute this video FURTHER proves your point. This video may be old, but it holds its weight very, very well. Good job man
No way u just said microaggression seriously
@@interspect_ I did, what are you going to do about it?
It’s crazy stumbling on this video now. Though I never really fell into the pipeline I had my foot in it for a while. The only reason I could come up with as to why I never fully fell in was chance and the fact I was too depressed to go further than what was given to me. Even then though CZcams, Facebook, Twitter, etc. all shoved this stuff onto me without ever stopping. It took immense effort on my part to get that stuff off my algorithm, and I even forswore several sites when I’d still get shown this hateful content. It was a long journey just getting the one foot I had out so I couldn’t dare imagine how hard it was for those that were deep into it that manage to get out. It’s so surreal to see what seems like harmless actions lead to such grave consequences.