War Thunder Air Beginners Guide #4 - Defensive Flying

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    0:00 Intro
    0:24 Table of contents
    1:22 Things to keep in mind
    1:46 Positioning
    3:39 Spacing
    8:08 Energy
    10:58 Secret Sauce
    14:42 Position in relation to the enemy / rolling
    17:18 Reversal examples
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Komentáře • 506

  • @OddBawZ
    @OddBawZ Před rokem +2421

    For a Dutch Guy who gets high altitude sickness while standing on a playing card, you sure can fly well! :)

    • @asadchatha4184
      @asadchatha4184 Před rokem +389

      Which is funny because the Dutch are usually pretty good at being high.

    • @joaohenriquemartins1666
      @joaohenriquemartins1666 Před rokem

      At 1:04 in the video, does it sucked you completely?

    • @grahaldmills5930
      @grahaldmills5930 Před rokem +50

      Highlarious

    • @gsilvy4k570
      @gsilvy4k570 Před rokem +17

      Hello Father

    • @MCXL1140
      @MCXL1140 Před rokem +34

      My favorite part is that he said it's a 10 minute video, and it's like 23. Even with his fast talking and sick flying.

  • @_YellovvJacket_
    @_YellovvJacket_ Před rokem +255

    06:54 About as mountainous as the average map in air rb, so pretty accurate representation tbh.

    • @oliveetjo5560
      @oliveetjo5560 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Air RB is flat bu as an arcade player I can guarantee that's for the bes

  • @kietay6505
    @kietay6505 Před rokem +558

    You are one of the few WT CCs producing consistent content at this point, I hope this channel grows.

  • @TheJudge2017
    @TheJudge2017 Před rokem +276

    It is absolutely experience based. You learn what works and what doesn't. If you died, think about what could have been done better and work on it. Yes some situations are unwinnable. Everyone loves seeing a Zero above and beyond when fly the P-51.

    • @onyourkilllist6880
      @onyourkilllist6880 Před rokem +25

      I agree to an extent, as experience allows you to learn what didn’t work. However, no one move works. Just playing a lot won’t improve your performance until you play a lot with the right mindset like this video completely demonstrates.
      Knowing your A/C strengths, and your enemies weaknesses. Then exploiting them. Judging energy states, and reacting accordingly. Its a thinking mans game, and an adapting game. I have a clip on my channel with a zero that shows up high above me in a P-51K.
      Using the P-51’s strengths against the zeros weaknesses. He dies in 30 seconds. Nothing is an impossible situation, especially when you’re in a great a/c like a P-51 as long as you’re always thinking of a plan, and executing it. Experience of practicing with a purpose is the key! You’ll never get better just playing a lot, and trying “moves”.

    • @JelqSmith
      @JelqSmith Před rokem +9

      Everytime I see a zero above my p51d30 I say nope and run and sideclimb until the situation improves.

    • @onyourkilllist6880
      @onyourkilllist6880 Před rokem +23

      @@JelqSmith It’s not running, its equalizing the energy ;). In my case, in my P-51k video, it appeared up high very close above me. I let him dive on me, knowing the zero compresses and it’s roll rate sufferers at high speed. I just put it into a slight dive and did some slight turns back and forth until he was about to overshoot. Faked a turn fight vertical for about half a circle. Dived out out as soon as he thought I was dumb enough to turn fight him, evaded some long range sprays on the way out. Extended until he turned away, then I turned back into him and shot him down in the first pass. EZ! Took no less than 30 Seconds.

    • @JelqSmith
      @JelqSmith Před rokem +6

      @@onyourkilllist6880 Very impressive and well done. It’s funny when I’m flying away to climb and equalize the energy against a zero or something else I can’t out turn, they often try to taunt me in the chat that I’m a coward. I just laugh and ignore them, thinking nice try.

    • @onyourkilllist6880
      @onyourkilllist6880 Před rokem +5

      @@JelqSmith They only are saying that for 2 reasons. 1, they’re dumb, or 2 they know what you’re doing and they’re frustrated you’re a smart player.

  • @boombot3029
    @boombot3029 Před rokem +99

    I’ve been trying to become a better pilot. A lot of people just say “practice” but knowledge of what to do is helpful. What else am I supposed to “practice” you show the skills in a understandable way I appreciate that! Thank you so much!

    • @arternativeyt
      @arternativeyt Před rokem +4

      in my beginner time playing air RB, i often watched the replay of the game which contain me dogfighting somebody, if the result i won the fight, i try to figure what moves that make me winning, and if i lose i try to figure what moves made me defeated or screw my flight path

    • @arternativeyt
      @arternativeyt Před rokem +5

      and 1 more thing, if the footage is containing me as a defender and succed reversed and killed my pursuer, i watch the replay in my enemy POV, so i can see clearly what kind of manouver made him struggle pointing his nose to my plane, honestly it worth to try and helped me a lot in the game

    • @SovietOnion111
      @SovietOnion111 Před 7 měsíci

      you can go into a custom game with a friend and dogfight them 1v1 and count how many times you win to their wins, when you win see what you did and remember that, then add 1 more person to the dogfight, so on and so on.

  • @sherlokderp9730
    @sherlokderp9730 Před rokem +41

    A good way to simplify this on how to get someone off u without getting killed if you’re not skilled or can’t remember all of it.
    In the F-104 clip where he’s chasing the more maneuverable plane, what’s killing the A-5 is that he reverses too soon.
    Wait until the guy on you actually pulls lead before you reverse your direction. If you do that the lead he pulls works against him, especially if he doesn’t roll well. If you reverse your turn like a madman (like the A-5 in the F-104 clip) and do it BEFORE he starts pulling lead, you’re just flying back toward his guns.
    That’s why you aren’t reversing a P-47 in your zero, you’re just spinning in circles and flying back into his guns over and over

  • @stringz4862
    @stringz4862 Před rokem +90

    I've completely mastered defensive flying in the time it took you to upload this. But ill still watch to support my favorite wt content creator XD.

    • @braedynhoward3644
      @braedynhoward3644 Před rokem +6

      Same here. Had to learn it all by myself as an average player.But still useful to reenforce what you've learned.

    • @wyvern7567
      @wyvern7567 Před rokem +1

      Confident much

  • @andre232323
    @andre232323 Před rokem +19

    My favourite Defyn videos: 1- Guides 2- Planes nobody fly 3- Props 4- Subsonics 5- The rest, including top tiers.

  • @Cpt_Wolf
    @Cpt_Wolf Před rokem +60

    Please do a guide on how to fly with keyboard while eyeballing enemy behind us.
    I know it might be pretty silly and basic for you, but some players could use that a bit (including me).
    I love your content, and this episode is no different. It brings me knowledge.

    • @sealclub13a79
      @sealclub13a79 Před rokem +6

      Hold c, look behind, and use keyboard elevator, rudder, and aileron control

    • @Ziiphyr
      @Ziiphyr Před rokem +2

      Just use the free look key bind and manually use your rudders, ailerons and elevator. Pretty simple, much more effective than using a controller.

    • @davetims5519
      @davetims5519 Před rokem +10

      @@Ziiphyr It's simple, sure, but it sure as hell isn't easy.

    • @alexmartin5887
      @alexmartin5887 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I use space bar as my free look. Before that I had trouble and now I can reverse the majority of players

  • @fuzzy-man-peach6258
    @fuzzy-man-peach6258 Před rokem +21

    I don’t play much war thunder these days (DCS warbird guy) - but your Summary of defensive rolling is illustrated well. Rolling towards the wingtips and staying out of sync with his wings are paramount 👌🏻

  • @sheeesssh646
    @sheeesssh646 Před rokem +102

    Absolute masterclass, thanks for putting in so much effort, it was truly worth it!

  • @danielgilbert2209
    @danielgilbert2209 Před rokem +5

    Thank you so much for taking the time to explain all of this to the newb players like myself. Just started playing and especially after watching the “how to aim” video I immediately noticed a difference in the way I play and my end game score. I’m sure this video will also help to improve my abilities. I have also shared the “how to aim” video with some friends who also benefited from it. You are by far the best at explaining these tactics and also keeping the video informative and interesting.

  • @omary5439
    @omary5439 Před rokem +3

    This is really helpful. I haven't flown for a year on war thunder and this course is refreshing everything and adding to the knowledge I already had with even more new information. Thanks!

  • @Bilverkr
    @Bilverkr Před rokem +1

    I appreciate all your videos, I'm slowly working through them while playing. Stopped playing for years, and came back a bit more excited to fly, and must say that your videos are smooth, easy to understand and extremely informative.

  • @phat3330
    @phat3330 Před rokem +20

    If the level 5 F5Cs see this I am done. Their most dangerous defenses are wiggling left and right slightly and (god forbid) holding A/D + S 😱

    • @PerriThePlatyPilot
      @PerriThePlatyPilot Před rokem

      I main the F-5C and it‘s most dangerous move is just to rate fight you to death, if flown right you can just turn for as long as their AOA allows to… other than that: totalöy agree with you 😂

    • @phat3330
      @phat3330 Před rokem

      @@PerriThePlatyPilot Actually I don't know if I agree with the rate fight. It's not bad but it doesn't have the thrust to maintain that much speed, at least not like a mig19 or f5E. The f5C can also pull some insane aoa which will bleed speed in any plane. I'd say it's better off in a nose to nose fight

    • @PerriThePlatyPilot
      @PerriThePlatyPilot Před rokem

      @@phat3330 No it doesn't, you have to let go of the S key for once in a while (that's why the Level 5 players never get to do this). It's pretty much the same as the F-5E, you keep it at Mach 0.90 - Mach 0.99, the F-5s generate a ton of Thrust at those speeds (even the C model).
      Yes they do pull AoA at times but that's not always the case and it shouldn't be. The Airframe is amazing, one of the best, it's also very small to hit, so turning correctly makes you a very small target wich is desirable when you're on the other end of Russian 30mm Cannons and stuff.
      It's a balanced plane, but get below that magic number and the F-5C struggles to get it's speed back and will get caught left and right, and as Prof. Defyn already said once: A slow Plane, is a dead Plane.

    • @dannielmacedo2398
      @dannielmacedo2398 Před rokem

      @@phat3330 I have rate fighted an MLD and won pretty comfortably with the F5E

    • @phat3330
      @phat3330 Před rokem

      @@PerriThePlatyPilot Yeah it's at those speeds I meant, an f5E can get that speed back alot easier and doesn't get below that speed as often. I still think a nose to nose fight is better in most cases but against a deltawing you should of course get into a nose to tail cause those just fall out of the sky hahah

  • @user-mf9ej9fv3q
    @user-mf9ej9fv3q Před 10 měsíci +3

    What an excellent and comprehensive description at the end. The Point went Home. Thanks, Defyn

  • @certaindeath7776
    @certaindeath7776 Před rokem +2

    i like the detail level of animation you brought us. you even included greenery like in 7:32. brilliant.
    i am not very good at reversals, even if i know some theory. getting a refresh is always good, and i never have seen a grafical analysis where you wanna be like yours. very informative, ty.

  • @aiolus
    @aiolus Před rokem +3

    I love this series, this helps a lot in giving you the right ideas that you then have to make work for yourself. Amazing video!

  • @ukrainianultranationalist4366

    DEFYN I have to say your guides really helped me get better at air RB and cut down on a lot of frustration.

  • @aquadude2545
    @aquadude2545 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for making this dude, the effort put into this is incredible

  • @Mucdaba
    @Mucdaba Před rokem +4

    babe wake up new defyn tutorial came out

  • @Dillonkg1
    @Dillonkg1 Před rokem +11

    I really appreciate these videos that you do they've helped me improve so much it's almost unreal. Your content is unparalleled imo, especially the death cuts 🤣🤣🤣

  • @michaelabraham9233
    @michaelabraham9233 Před rokem +2

    these guides are probably the best you can get on youtube pls keep making them

  • @capitantilapia
    @capitantilapia Před rokem +2

    You're a legend. Thanks for the effort that you put into improving the community, Defyn.

  • @mtxle1nad
    @mtxle1nad Před 4 měsíci +1

    Watching this even a year after it was made I learned so much. Thanks for the lesson teach

  • @sosobel5843
    @sosobel5843 Před rokem +11

    Mig-15 and 17 mains trying to roll :

    • @sosobel5843
      @sosobel5843 Před rokem

      @_Alzie_ myeah but still far from the Sabre's roll lol

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Před rokem

      @@sosobel5843 The MiG-17's roll rate actually isn't that bad

    • @sosobel5843
      @sosobel5843 Před rokem

      @@jaek__ yeah but under the average

    • @dreamtree1510
      @dreamtree1510 Před rokem

      You need to use rudder inputs when defensively rolling in the 15 and 17.

    • @sosobel5843
      @sosobel5843 Před rokem

      @@dreamtree1510 yeeeee I knoow lol

  • @JelqSmith
    @JelqSmith Před rokem

    Awesome video. For the longest time with props I didn’t understand how defensive flying worked and figured anyone on my six had me. Thanks to the times I overshot people, the video of AdamTheEnginerd in his f8f, and this video, I realize the fight isn’t over until it’s over. Never give up in props.

  • @lb-zm8kd
    @lb-zm8kd Před rokem +1

    I hadn't quite gotten used to the rolling aspect and the diamond thing really helped now that I'm at jets. Thanks!

  • @TheDAWinz
    @TheDAWinz Před rokem +3

    Mutch awaited fourth installment, been getting some friends into the game and air RB, this dropped at the perfect time! This has been their greatest struggle, defensive flying.

  • @Hazey652
    @Hazey652 Před rokem +4

    7:23 look at mr comedy over here

  • @weeghee8198
    @weeghee8198 Před rokem +1

    Damn this definetely is one of those videos i wish i watched a year or so ago, also one of the first of its kind to explain stuff so clearly, thanks for the amzing video.

  • @goringbutslim4591
    @goringbutslim4591 Před rokem +1

    Fuck yeah. Absolutely marvelous, DEFYN. Been waiting a long time for this and you’ve delivered exceptionally as usual.

  • @ZZZZZZ-ek2pq
    @ZZZZZZ-ek2pq Před rokem

    I know you haven't uploaded these often but when you do I get so excited. They're so helpful and I watch them several times.

  • @Mult1Core
    @Mult1Core Před rokem +1

    I sure love the way you draw those mountain ranges

  • @Spaceman404.
    @Spaceman404. Před rokem +1

    Solid as always, teach. Cheers to the next one.

  • @radhikalover69
    @radhikalover69 Před rokem

    dude youre honestly the best channel ive ever come across. thank you so much for all the information. :D

  • @xmistevo8461
    @xmistevo8461 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for all the tips you have made

  • @yui.3218
    @yui.3218 Před rokem

    Thank you so much ive been waiting for this man !!

  • @wilsonagimuk7782
    @wilsonagimuk7782 Před 6 měsíci

    Very good man. This really has helped me. Thank you.

  • @jayklink851
    @jayklink851 Před rokem

    Love this type of content. Aslo, watching DEFYN cover BawZ in ground RB was absolutely epic!

  • @user-ff9wp8bu9e
    @user-ff9wp8bu9e Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great videos man keep up the good work

  • @Valaritas
    @Valaritas Před rokem

    Thanks for the guide, amazing as always!

  • @hakankarahisar2001
    @hakankarahisar2001 Před rokem

    OMG NEW TRAINING VIDEO thank you so much defyn!

  • @ikea_manager_pok
    @ikea_manager_pok Před rokem

    ive been looking forward to this! this is great!

  • @spexon7311
    @spexon7311 Před rokem

    Appreciate all your videos! These helped me expedite learning props!

  • @matousushi9402
    @matousushi9402 Před rokem

    Excellent tutorial, keep it up Defyn !

  • @badbirdwatcher
    @badbirdwatcher Před rokem

    Thank you, I have learnt a lot from this video, now to put in the practice! Worth watching again.

  • @JayzTwoCentzIG
    @JayzTwoCentzIG Před rokem

    I learned a lot more than I thought I would - great video!

  • @m_zbrv3967
    @m_zbrv3967 Před rokem +1

    That's legendary kind of mig-21 you put there in the positioning explanation 🤣

  • @mrbunny6203
    @mrbunny6203 Před rokem

    Another amazing guide but honestly i picked quite a few things of it already when you react on yr gameplay. Keep it up!

  • @guillaumecochain-puntas5364

    Awesome video! I love the format it s so perfect!

  • @gendwa5418
    @gendwa5418 Před rokem

    This made a lot of sense. This def helped thank you.

  • @BillyraycyrusIII
    @BillyraycyrusIII Před rokem

    That is some beautifully flying

  • @user-ff9wp8bu9e
    @user-ff9wp8bu9e Před 4 měsíci

    Great videos man, they really help

  • @chaostv3795
    @chaostv3795 Před rokem

    This video helped me a lot. Now flying makes a lot more fun. Thanks !

  • @Upsidedowndog27
    @Upsidedowndog27 Před 7 měsíci

    Very amazing video that gave a ton of info in a great way. Thanks for this

  • @thegreenbean9988
    @thegreenbean9988 Před rokem

    LETS GOOOO! New Defyn Vid about flying! WOOOO!

  • @skuljind
    @skuljind Před rokem

    Thank you for this. Amazing explanations.

  • @Bloodstreakosaber
    @Bloodstreakosaber Před 4 měsíci

    I love ur videos are always helpful as I’m new. I’ve loved planes since I saw one of ur videos so thx for inspiring me.

  • @RH0DI
    @RH0DI Před rokem +1

    Can't wait for a video on lines. I've been big chimping it with instinctual flying for too long.

  • @officesoup1357
    @officesoup1357 Před rokem

    Perfect timing I needed this!

  • @terrorkiller645
    @terrorkiller645 Před rokem

    Thanks for the time in making this vid keep it up

  • @brandondeklerk7830
    @brandondeklerk7830 Před rokem

    You are so awesome and i truly appreciate your guides, i have over 1000 hours but still come back

  • @dakotahondalock5621
    @dakotahondalock5621 Před rokem +1

    Dutch man says good job to me and made me feel warm and fuzzy inside, that earned a like

  • @ItsPolarHere
    @ItsPolarHere Před měsícem +2

    Defyn I may be replying a year after this video was released, I recently bought the F4EJ ADTW, this video helped so much! I got to the f86 sabre on Japan within days!

  • @techienate
    @techienate Před rokem +1

    The number of times I snorted or laughed in such a technically dense video speaks to what an absolute work of art this is.

  • @jahaanelliott805
    @jahaanelliott805 Před rokem

    Thankyou my friend just the video I needed

  • @AXenoLover
    @AXenoLover Před rokem

    It’s vids like this that get me my rank doesn’t matter medals, it’s very satisfying to see it pop up

  • @mariozanninello7307
    @mariozanninello7307 Před rokem

    Thank you great video boss. Cheers.

  • @terzaghi6484
    @terzaghi6484 Před rokem

    methodical and clear. great video

  • @lDrFuManchul
    @lDrFuManchul Před rokem +1

    I’d like to point out that especially in jets, Crew Mastery is important to get the critical lead. If you main that jet, you better splash those 1.x Million Silver Birds. Because often you will find that even you do everything right, the last degrees of pitch or the critical second of G load is missing due to lack of crew skills.
    But then again, he is absolutely correct. If you are defensive, there is no point in relying on your sick plays, it’s about you get him off your tail and deny him the kill shot. Every second counts, you can dance around, he might not hit you, you can try a reversal you do so good, but in the end someone else will pick you with an missile. It’s better to not get defensive at all and remain in control.

  • @Viking88Power
    @Viking88Power Před rokem

    Love this type of content.

  • @apiece_
    @apiece_ Před rokem +4

    Making your postfx red also increases the chances of people flying into your guns

  • @nethascotx24
    @nethascotx24 Před rokem +1

    Finally, a good video on this

  • @kylelemire6049
    @kylelemire6049 Před rokem

    I thought I was subed already..fixed that been watching your channel for a long time love the content

  • @grayson7980
    @grayson7980 Před rokem

    literally just searched for this video from you last night and here it is xD thanks G

  • @mati-yr1ym
    @mati-yr1ym Před 9 měsíci

    I learned how to do this by just playing a lot of air rb and now I do it ecatly like in those clips. What helped me a lot with defensive flying was binding keys to elevator so that I can use mouse to see where the enemy is and what is he doing while at the same time maneuvering.

  • @myrock4645
    @myrock4645 Před 10 měsíci

    Great vid, thanks!

  • @nvs0k100
    @nvs0k100 Před 7 měsíci

    "Were not here for fun were here to try and survive the match" truly the war thunder mindset

  • @wanoumars
    @wanoumars Před rokem

    Great stuff! I loved the secret sauce!

  • @Efendi_
    @Efendi_ Před měsícem

    Bedankt voor je video ik ben nu met mijn AV-8A VS aan het grinden.

  • @JJ-eb4tx
    @JJ-eb4tx Před rokem

    This is really helpful, thank you

  • @Somebeanwhoexists
    @Somebeanwhoexists Před rokem

    Your videos are great and helpful

  • @MinhNguyen-br3ij
    @MinhNguyen-br3ij Před rokem

    wow great video even though i know i can never be on this level but still watched from start to finish

  • @carlosdowell4861
    @carlosdowell4861 Před rokem

    This helped so much thanks for the awesome vid

  • @niki_9
    @niki_9 Před 6 měsíci

    These 20 minutes were more than worth it!!!

  • @Truck_Company_84
    @Truck_Company_84 Před 3 měsíci

    This helped me so much! I also turned off cross platform games. (I am on PlayStation.) with that and your video, top tier is really fun!

  • @StanleyTF22
    @StanleyTF22 Před rokem

    Thank you so much!
    This helped a lot also I love your videos!
    Deserved the sub!

  • @gonewildwithlovehjq
    @gonewildwithlovehjq Před rokem

    This is really good. I just started playing and I loved this video. Thanks for your hard work on this video/

  • @r-saint
    @r-saint Před rokem

    I didn't understand literally anything, but I am still grateful. Thanks!

  • @Omniscient_01
    @Omniscient_01 Před rokem

    That was a great mate 👍🏽

  • @hklyut4557
    @hklyut4557 Před rokem

    cheerz def. nice tutorial.

  • @burtonporter8437
    @burtonporter8437 Před rokem

    Love your content man ❤️
    I’m gonna sign up for your Patreon and I’ve never done that before

  • @NazeCoy
    @NazeCoy Před rokem

    Thank you DEFYN

  • @ZeroMustang
    @ZeroMustang Před 5 měsíci

    That box diagram with the 109 and P-38 was pretty damn helpful, I guess now it’s all down to how close you are to the ground and whether the dude, either through luck or skill, hits the shot 👍

  • @nottheh3ro734
    @nottheh3ro734 Před rokem

    I love your explanation vids :)

  • @jonathanfernando6537
    @jonathanfernando6537 Před rokem

    great job defyn😉

  • @jamalrou
    @jamalrou Před 8 měsíci

    best tutorial for me so far

  • @thatguyholar4665
    @thatguyholar4665 Před rokem

    Good videos! Thank you very much

  • @sedriknguyenthanh4397
    @sedriknguyenthanh4397 Před rokem +1

    Ain't gonna lie, this guy... has a good sense of humor