Review: 2017 Nissan Titan XD Cummins vs 2017 Ram 2500 Cummins - Both are great, 1 is better
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Review: 2017 Nissan Titan XD Cummins vs 2017 Ram 2500 Cummins - Both are great, 1 is better
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2017 Nissan Titan XD Cummins interior, exterior, wheels, tires and bed. 2017 Ram 2500 Cummins interior, exterior, wheels, tires, and bed.
2017 Nissan Titan XD Cummins diesel engine and transmission: 5.0 liter V8 Cummins turbo diesel with Nissan 6 speed automatic transmission.
2017 Ram 2500 Cummins diesel engine and transmission: 6.7 Liter inline 6 Cummins turbo diesel with Mercedes Benz G56 6 speed manual, Mopar 68RFE Automatic or Aisin Seiki AS69RC Automatic.
2017 Nissan Titan XD Cummins horsepower / torque - 310/555
2017 Ram 2500 Cummins horsepower / torque - 350-385 / 660-900
with Mercedes G56 6 speed - 350/660
with Mopar 68RFE - 370/800
with Aisin Seiki AS69RC - 385/900 (3500 dually only)
2017 Nissan Titan XD Cummins diesel tow capacity = 11890 and tongue weight = 1189 with or without weight distributing hitch.
2017 Ram 2500 Cummins diesel tow capacity = 18000 with Mopar transmission and 30,000 with Aisin Seiki transmission (3500 only.)
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The Cummins engine has a sound all it's own. Even the new quiet ones. I can tell if a truck has a Cummins engine without even seeing the truck. Some people may find that strange. But for me the sound of a Cummins Turbo Diesel is like music to my ears. Cummins is the best.
Why settle for less?
Wasting your time the Titan isn't built to compare with any 3/4 ton.
It's in a class of its own and doing well at it.
Jean-claude chiasson i agree. Some dont need the power of a 6.7 or bigger engine but need a bit more than what the current 2500s offer in gassers.
One feature I love on the titan is the in cab headlight adjuster. Great for towing where you can put the light back on the road where it belongs with the simple click of a thumb wheel. Also the titan xd has an Aisin transmission as well.
My cousin works for Cummins...has for 15+ years. When the Nissan came out he said "they finally put a good engine in a good truck"!
That's a great insider's view...and your cousin obviously knows what he's talking about.
came for a truck overview, stayed for the really interesting diesel and Cummings historical information. Thanks for the different approach!
Agreed
I own a XD Cummins, I pull at max towing capacity, this is my first diesel, and wanted to give the underdog a chance. That being said, as he said, both are in there own category, though it can’t tow much more then that of a gasser, it doesn’t scream climbing hills, it has a nice ride, comfortable seats, plenty of room, I think a little more dash, it does have a nice all around feel and drive. The price point is what it comes down to, baby Cummins are not equal to the big brother in-lines. Eventually I will “grow up” to big brother. But I think we all agree...Cummins are still amazing engines. It will be a sweet sorrow when I trade up.
Right now I can get a ‘17 or ‘18 XD Cummins with 40-50K miles for mid $40K’s. Try getting a 3/4 ton or 1 ton diesel with those miles for less than $55K.
Was thinking of this Nissan xd Cummins just to get into a diesel truck like you said . How nimble is the ride ? Japanese trucks are usually very nimble and tight driving
My dad has a Nissan XD that I use to pull a trailer, haul hay, and haul feed. That being said Nissan underrated the hell out of these engines. I also did some research on all the 3/4 tons and the Nissan. What I found out is that Nissan’s “towing capacity” is just under 12k pounds and the 3/4 tons are rated at around (on average) 12,500 pounds.
The towing capacity was underrated as well. These trucks are towing 12,000-12,500 ALL DAY WITHOUT A SWEAT. They’re actually in the 2500 conversation in my honest opinion. That damn Cummins five oh is making over 400HP and over 600 In Feet at the crank. 4 cams, smooth running and powerful. Just another Cummins product!
We fell in love with the Nissan Titan XD PLATINUM RESERVE. BEST TRUCK EVER!!
I own a Nissan Titan XD Cummins, to me is a perfect truck to tow and drive around. Agree that Ram is more powerful but then it is designed to do so. Mine was $60k sticker price but ended up paying less than $49k for it. Best deal I could possible get compared to the big three.
Great choice. Great buy. $49000 is nothing for as impressive as that Nissan is.
Alex Rodriguez wow 60k sticker . I bought a Ram in 2014 sticker was 49k crew cab 4x4 diesel didn't pay near that 42k but then again it wasn't a top model either upgraded tradesman (almost Alan slt). sold it a few months ago (didn't need it or its payments) I'll my paid off 7.3 super duty..
Alex Rodriguez you'll probably be happier with that Nissan anyway wasn't impressed the longer I had the Ram (loved the Cummins but that was it)
Agreed the Titan Xd Cummins is a great vehicle. The RAM 6.7 is a beast. I currently own a Diesel Titan XD. Really wish it had an exhaust brake.
Alex Rodriguez whay year nissan ?
The ram with the saddle interior is absolutely beautiful.
correction. they are the only PICKUPS with cummins in north america. they put cummins in commercial vehicles like western star and freightliner
Nissan Titan XD diesel is one of a kind
I agree with you Syed!
I believe it is too...
This video helped me pass the time while waiting for my 2017 replacement truck to arrive (2016 was totaled). Thank you and solid information.
Yeah the comments about "luxury" appointments versus "spartan" utility are a bit off-base. We own a Ram Longhorn MegaCab 2500 Cummins 6.7L 4x4 that has video monitors for the rear passengers. Not that I ever wanted all of these bells and whistles, but the top of line Nissan Titan Platinum 4x4 that I test drove about a week ago didn't have some of the luxury items that the Longhorn has come with for years.
You are absolutely right Timberwright that the highest end of Dodge exceeds the highest end of Nissan. Here in Hawaii, the levels I chose were pretty close to the same price and pound for pound the Nissan blew the doors off of the Dodge...however, both are used now and I would think that the highest end Dodge could be had for even money with a less-equipped Nissan. On the new truck side, the new Ram is all-new and the top of the line is obviously fantastic. The Nissan is the same as it was in 2016. Thank you so much for your comments and have a wonderful 2019.
Another informative and factual review. I learned a few things from this. Good thing for my wallet y'all are in Hawaii, I'd def be buying a new truck from you haha!
I appreciate that MeBoostaS30z...thank you so much for taking a look!
Cool to see them next to each other. The titan is actually a 2500 sized truck. This is really cool.
The dodge does have towing mirrors, they don't pull out like the titans, they flip up on out
Good call Thomas. Thanks for the wisdom!
The Nissan cummins is like a 5/8 ton truck. Not quite a half ton, but still not as capable as a 3/4
You nailed it Gyrenaica, that's exactly what they should have called it.
@@everycarSeattle
Nissan does call it a 5/8 truck.
Overall good review, but several comments:
1. It is important know your height for viewers to understand the difference in interior space. I felt the Ram is indeed visiblly smaller
2. The Ram has a manual tranny while the nissan has an auto tranny, if equally equiped, the price difference would be ~4K
The Mercedes G56 6 speed in the Ram is an old but excellent transmission. Sadly, it looks like it's being phased out. The new transmissions from Aisin (as well as Allison and Ford) simply pull A LOT more and are just as economical. I think the Aisin, especially the AS69 might be the best truck transmission going right now. p.s I'm 6'0", I normally mentioned that but missed it this time. Thank you very much for taking a look!
The Fast Lane with Joe Tunney, I'm a ram cummins fan but the Nissan auto is an as69rc without the pto output shaft. Same trans as the 6.7ho in the ram 3500.
the upgraded trans aisen is about a 2000 dollar add on as of last year. I do know the g56 is getting phased out because it isn't strong enough. If ou look at the numbers the g56 is the most problematic heavy truck transmission on the market. Since fiat bough Daimler they took big steps to phase out this trans because that is the number one problem with the dodge trucks. "Bad transmission" was always brought up when talking about dodge. Hopefully that is not anymore because I will have a new ram when mine hits 100k which will be soon
+Alex Armga My Ram with a G56 does nothing but tow a 30,000 pound trailer, on a 500 hp engine tune.
But with a couple hundred thousand miles, what do I know about a G56 transmission.
Im not one for luxury, just give me an aux port and phone charger and im happy. Also I really want a 4th gen Ram. I love the look and Cummins power.
The new Ram is the best looking truck on the road right now. Cummins diesels are the best engine that's ever been put into a truck. Combine the two and you've got a truck you can love for 20 years.
only bad thing the Nissan Titan is not offered in manual transmission like Dodge
Ram all the way. (It's not a called Dodge and hasn't been for quite some time). Great video and coverage of the options that are available. Nissan did a good job in building the Titan but I would go for the Ram. Thank you.
I think you and the general marketplace share the same voice on this one Mike. I think people are impressed but not won over by the Nissan. Whichever way you go, it's a fun and eye-opening test drive in the Nissan if you ever get a chance.
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I'd take the Nissan day in day out. Why? Reliability. The truck over all is better built. Not to mention the Nissan can be bought at a better price and do whatever 99% of the pop needs in this truck segment. In closing. The Titan is a half ton Heavy Duty.
You nailed it C Steele...you nailed it on several levels in fact.
Just for the record the Allison Transmission is the best diesel transmission the world
Even handed reviews. I see a lot of haters trying to tear down the V-8 Cummins, and I have to say that as an owner of one of these who does his research, your hate & gripes are not based in reality. Fine to have an opinion, great to be proud of what you run, but why do so many people feel the need to rip into anything different?
Good video man 👍 thanks for sharing the comparison with us.
We use 2018 Nissan Titan XD diesel and to pull a 6x14 trailer and it feels like nothing but when raining is bad on hills , they are 2x4 that’s the reason but still they handle pretty good
good video. very informative in a 10 min video
Thanks Jimmy, I appreciate you taking a look!
You can choose if u want leader seats on the ram
One of the great secrets in the industry is that it's only about $1000 for the dealer to add aftermarket leather in any color you want to just about anything. (Of course, they want to mark it up, a lot) For a little bit more you can do 2-tone or custom graphics - and more often than not, the quality is every bit as good if not better than factory. However, if you want the factory leather, you are absolutely right LH that leather seats are a factory option in the Ram. Thanks for taking a look and happy holidays to you.
It's a no brainer. Dodge Ram Cummins baby.. Wouldn't change ram for nothing..
You have great taste Alejandro...there's no wrong choice between these two.
A ram guy since early 2000s ,I wouldn't change rams for any other truck diesel or hemi, the best trucks on the road
Alejandro Orozco i love cummins but for me is a no no 👎 ram transmisions sucks.. best combination outthere is duramax with alison
Cummins has a 2.8 liter 4 cyl motor as well..
Sort of...it's on the show circuit with Nissan but nobody has said it's a go just yet.
Foton pick up trucks have 2.8 isf diesels
The Fast Lane with Joe Tunney and tons of interest in the jeep repower market too.. i have a need for one in a ranger..
Yup originated from the 4bt
Ottoman
Correction: a 3.0L Cummins
TFLnow did a review of the Frontier with this engine.
This is a dumb comparison. The two are trucks are in two completely different categories. And they have different engine sizes. Did I mention that they are different?
The trucks are different, that's for sure. But like a 350Z and a Challenger, people are still going to look at both and pick one.
Excellent Review! Thank you.
I like the nissan titan, always been the underdog but it kick ass, those big 3 names is just a overated.. I dont own any trucks tho
The Nissan is a bit of a black sheep so to speak. It's a bit big to be a half ton, but can come with a factory gooseneck hitch, yet it isn't a 3/4 ton to take advantage of bigger brakes and generally heavier components for the go and whoa. Personally I don't care about the luxury interior, I'm going to jump into it anyhow whether I'm covered in mud or grease because I need it to work more than I need fancy.
I'm the first to admit that although I like the Nissan a lot more than most reviewers, if it were a work-first type of truck, I'd go with the Dodge...however, I think I'd go for the Pro 4X whatever the situation. - czcams.com/video/rf6vme2IINM/video.html
Check the specs on the brake size on the Titan. You may be surprised. Also the frame is from a 3/4 Ton Van.
The reflection in the Dodge is nicer.
I love the way you shake your hips, you silly boy. That 6.7 will mop a Walmart Parking lot with that Nissan...
Great video, but do a little more homework in the future videos. Keep up the videos!
Great review!
Did this guy just say 1. million L of gas??? At 2 min in??
clean your ears out
Fake news on the 5.0 being the smallest option available by Cummins. They have four bangers as well, the 4BT and even smaller options nowadays.
A few manufacturers have been showcasing new small trucks with small Cummins engines...it will be interesting to see if the market will get on board...oversees it would be the hottest thing ever since every single manufacturer sells small diesel trucks with great success.
really good video! loaded with great information very detailed and hey awesome location!!!!
Although living in Hawaii is new to me, I'm quickly getting used to sunny 85 degree days all winter long. Thank you so much Roger for taking a look!
I can clearly tell from this video, trucks are not your forte
I'm ok with trucks Redline, I've owned so many...and bought and sold maybe 5000 of them or so over the years.
@@everycarSeattle the point he's making is that you very clearly have no idea what you are talking about
Those 2 are not the only vehicles sold in North America with Cummins Diesel engines. Most American school buses have Cummins Turbo diesels with 1,100 lbs ft of torque
You're right ATM...they also make engines for locomotives, ships, excavators and more...just not the kind of stuff a normal person might go for a test drive in on an otherwise dull Saturday. Although, any of those three would make for a memorable test drive!
He said these are the 2 “smallest” Cummins engines 🙂
Blown away that a 2017 RAM can still come with a stick. Also that it's a Benz made stick... hopefully it won't just fall loosely apart like my old 5.9 Cummins 5 speed did. 347k on an excellent motor but Dodge is the reason I sold it. They just can't make a vehicle that lasts.
We've all openly wondered just how serious any manufacturer is to making a vehicle that lasts...Tesla really sent a shot across the bow when they announced their new tractor trailer will not only go 0-60 in 5 seconds or something crazy but also come with a 1 million mile warranty. If that truck ever hits the market, it will be lights out for several heavy duty truck manufacturers...Detroit better hope Tesla doesn't back that up with a mid size truck.
You get more hp, torque, aftermarket support with 6.7 Cummins plus you can get better fuel mileage with 3.42 gears up to 26 mpg (when tfltruck tested the 2wd Ram Cummins 2500) . For all those reasons I'd take the Ram over the Nissan if I was buying the truck based on the engine alone .
the Nissan combo of cummins/aisin is a good one. but the entire drive train and suspension is in the 1/2T category, and not up to the strength of the Ram 3/4T category. a quick look at the undercarriage will prove this. the Nissan is in fact a 1/2T truck that can be pushed, "on occasion", up into the low-end 3/4T capacity for short durations. folks, with the Nissan, you are buying a 1/2T truck, and the most expensive one on the market today.
Thanks for the video! Also, I'm jealous you live in beautiful Hawaii! I'm in love with the black sand beach. Can't wait to go back!
In your description, you state "Tow Capacity" for both trucks. Is this the same as GVWR? If so, what is the trucks empty weight so I can know how much cargo / trailer I can add? Lastly, does the type of tires (load rating) and size used affect these #'s? Thanks for the video, It answered several of my concerns.
Not the only 2 trucks with cummins ever heard of a n14 Cummins also these are not the smallest 4bt cummins is a 4 cylinder that's found in basically just about every piece of equipment or small water vessels ect even jeeps
That truck is for the guys that live in the suburbs, commute to an office job, tow their 12' jon boat once a year and tell everyone that they "need" a 4x4 diesel. I do see some actually working and towing what they were built for, but its rare. That Titan is for the guys that want the "C" badge, but will never tow or haul a damn thing. Trucks are for work, not looking cool and telling everyone how you can haul 30,000 lbs.
Titans are very underrated and I wonder with all the talk on how bad the diesel is in the XD does anyone here actually have real fact in the real world owner experience?
I just pulled 44k pounds with my new Dodge Cummins, like about a month ago.
System32, wow!
What I don't understand is why people say it's underpowered, it has more HP and the same torque as a 2005 dodge Cummins 2500. People never have problems pulling with those?
That is an excellent observation. People get so caught up in new cars that nobody ever wants to point out that a great many used vehicles will do everything you need for A LOT less money.
No, it does NOT have the same torque nor more hp than an '05 Dodge. The '05 Cummins was rated 325hp and 600ft-lb.
Go drive a stock '03 Dodge HO (305hp/555ft-lb) and a stock Titan XD (310hp/555ft-lb) and tell me they produce the same power. They do not.
There's so much torque management on the 5.0 in the XD, it's not even funny. I've got an '03 HO manual and it makes WAY more power just driving around than the 5.0 could ever pretend to have. Ratings be damned.
Oinchadoom Performance , you are right. I had a 2003 F 250, and it is almost the same power as it. the f250 has 325 hp and 560 lbs ft of torque.
Giveit2mehRAW guys lets just get this out. Alot of people dont remember that or know that. My 04 cummins makes 325. I dont get it ethier. Pulls perfectly fine.
Oh and fuck nissan
gwell i have a full load 2014 cummins and and its a rocket ship the first load i did on my 1/2 was over loaded 1/2 dont cut ut you need 3/4 1 ton i got the Aisin and it comes in non dually as well
Dodge diesels are incredible and your '14 3/4 ton is an amazing truck! The 2500 Diesels come with the 68 series Aisin and the 3500 and Nissan diesels come with the 69 series Aisin...I cover that more in the Pro 4X review - czcams.com/video/rf6vme2IINM/video.html -
I have the 3500 but any way awesome trucks
Ram 2500 does not use an Aisin trans, it uses a 68RFE Chrysler transmission.
Also, Titan XD and Ram 3500 Aisin are totally different transmissions. There's been misinformation, largely on the Nissan forums, that they are the same exact trans. They are not.
A Ram 1500 with a high trim level (comparable in price) would be a more luxurious truck. Of course, you wouldn't be getting the Cummins diesel.
I'm planning on doing a review of gas powered Dodge vs Nissan trucks pretty soon and I'll be interested which truck comes out on top.
You would get a Motori 3.0 Diesel in the 1500. Same as Mercedes or BMW. Very capable with 30 MPG in the city!
what are your though on comparison on Allison transmission vs Aisin Seiki in performance and reliability. is there a truck with Cumnmins Diesel with Allison Transmission? is the Mopar RFE engine reliable compare to Aisin Seiki transmission? I love the Nissan Titan XD diesel package but i prefer the look of the Ram 2500 diesel but it is mated with RFE and i am not too sure about the reliability of it.
Aisin Seiki makes the best transmissions in the world, period. However, Allison transmissions are the go-to transmission on big RV's that rack up hundreds of thousands of miles. There's no going wrong with either one.
Thanks for helping me make my decision
A total apples to oranges comparison. Heavy Duty truck and engine vs a heavy half ton or light 3/4 package in the Nissan.
Different for sure, but for how most people actually use trucks (nowhere near their limits and if so rarely) I thought it was a reasonable comparison...if you actually need a heavy duty truck for industrial-level work or you pull a really heavy load a lot, get the Dodge, no doubt about it.
Still don't understand why this truck is so often compared to heavy duty models. Nissan Titan is basically a heavy half ton.
Camera girl looking fine in that reflection
For daily driving I’d get the titan, Ram for actually working. Cummins with a stick or Aisin is gold!!!
Great call FixItNick...thank you so much for taking a look and have a great 2019!
Rather have the Nissan
2 great choices Barry, but I am with you on the Nissan.
The ONLY thing that's the same between these vehicles, both full size.. (ok, there's a Cummins badge on both) but that's it.. one's a heavy duty pickup, the other's a light duty 1/2 ton..
who the hell wants carpeting in a truck i prefer to hose mine out carpeting completely contradicts the entire purpuse of a truck
(Owen Wilson voice) Wow!
How about mpg? and Nissan is heavily discounting the XD's price so real world pricing and MSRP are two completely different things. No one ever pays MSRP on a vehicle. So how about real world MPG and prices on a video.
2000 miles I'm averaging 18.3 mpg. The 2014 Titan I traded in averaged 14.2 mpg.
Grumpy Old Man Real mpg on the Titan XD is 13-19, not towing. The RAM gets better mpg easily. the purchase price difference may be significant, but you get what you pay for. Trust me :(
Thanks for the great vid. I love that cummins you have there! I do personally believe that you should have compared the Ram 1500 eco diesel and the Nissan as they are both 1/2 ton, both diesel, both well packaged and wear the same price tag. Just because they have cummins you are still comparing apples to oranges! I think we need another video!!!
Now to figure out how to swap the 5.0 into a Cherokee
Awesome review bro...
the manual transmission available in the Ram pickups has nothing to do with Mercedes Benz, nor does it have anything to do with Daimler Chrysler. its a Getrag transmission, which is the world's largest transmission producer. they make transmissions for several major auto manufacturers and the particular transmission found in the Ram is the G56, a medium duty class transmission. NOTHING to do with Benz. been hearing this a lot lately.
So you're comparing a RAM 2500 SLT to a fully loaded Titan? This is a moronic comparison. RAM Laramie and up trucks are way more refined than any Nissan.
Money-wise these were the best comparisons. Dodge has much higher end models than Nissan does, but they cost more. Both trucks are obviously great, but in two very different ways. The Dodge will appeal to someone who appreciates maximum work-related performance while Nissan appeals to someone who also needs a daily driver. Thanks for taking a look jdpaeth and happy holidays!
@@everycarSeattle, the Titan you are reviewing has an MSRP of around $60k... nearly $8k more than the RAM you are "fairly comparing" it against. Guess what the MSRP of a RAM 2500 Laramie with a Cummins is? You Guessed it... around $60k
Also you're saying RAM doesn't make a truck worthy of daily driving? Have you driven a RAM 2500? It rides as smooth as my RAM 1500 with air suspension. RAM 2500 are the only HD trucks to keep coil link rear suspension, so they ride immaculately.
Lastly, you work at a dealership, it's not a Dodge... it's a RAM. Been that way for 9 years.
Maybe...but I've driven them both a lot and know the differences firsthand very clearly...maybe you have driven them both much more than me and maybe you've never driven either one a single time, I don't know. I know I'm partial to the Nissan for a variety of reasons, probably the biggest reason is that Dodge (Ram) pushes the red, white and blue angle so much and makes the 2500 in Mexico. That part really bugs me to be honest. The Nissan is made in Mississippi.
@@everycarSeattle But I guess you havent driven them enough to know how much the RAM (not Dodge) actually costs. My whole point with my first comment is that you aren't comparing apples to apples. I understand that you wanted to do a cute comparison between the two truck brands that put Cummins diesel engines in their trucks, and maybe you're just working with what you have in inventory; But you are comparing a $60k HALF-TON to a bare bones RAM that is at least $8k less. AND that you could have compared it to a superior 3/4-ton truck that costs the same as the Nissan in a Laramie trim level.
And by the way, RAM is moving HD truck production to Michigan for the redesigned model. And if you want to rip on them for being "un-American" and call the truck the wrong brand.. you're missing the opportunity to call them a Fiat.
Nissan makes overpriced garbage... but I guess they have Americans make it so we (you) feel better about buying their crap.
Very nice and helpful review of this cummins engine's, and the mercedes gearbox i am impressed about it (i prefer 100% maula gearbox)!
Have you sat in a Laramie limited? Nicer then nissans top package
Laramie Limited's are gorgeous inside....MSRP for MSRP they are more expensive but they sure are beautiful!
OOOO I want that truck!!!! That is a very nice truck.
The Fast Lane with Joe Tunney Excuse me if I am wrong, but for the same price of that upgraded SLT model you could get a more "infinity level" luxury comfort on that 3/4 ton truck that has leather interior the 8.4 in uconnect nav and carpet floors for the same 2000 dollars more. Did they just give you the models to review or did you choose the models. Of not then why not review a Laramie limited to compare? Even though there is that 10k dollar difference it is still the same price range right? Well good day.
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J not to mention the huge discounts many Ram dealers, with help from the factory programs that are available. I know of no one that ever pays list price on a Ram! In the Boston area, dealers are advertising $10,000-$13,000 off Laramie package trucks! That in the end I bet would come very close the the Nissan in price out the door!! For a truck with 40% more towing and 80% more load weight capacity! In a Ram that weighs about the same as an XD! Plus gets the same mileage! With well over 100 hp and well over 300 ftblbs tq! MORE!!
You are a good sales person, I liked your video.
didn't click for a history lesson
I get that from time to time Chris. I figure everyone knows most of the facts long before they find me, so I try to give them something new.
i was glad to hear it, thx.
Thank you bill man, I appreciate you taking a look!
thumbs up joe
Not all of us know everything about trucks and do appreciate the lesson. There may be other videos that suit your knowledge base a little better... Cheers
Because u picked a slt model of the dodge get a Laramie or a big horn and then compare
The lines between 1/2ton & 3/4 is becoming fairly blurred with 2016 on models.
great video!
Great review.
Very imformative! Great review Joe...
Never sat in the new titans, but my cummins laramie feels like a cadillac inside, sunroof, wood trim, leather AC seats ,touchscreen nav, heated steering wheel, ram box, 19 mpg, plus 17k towing....nissan cant touch that
Couple things to consider 1. most people are not cross shopping a Titan XD against a 3/4 ton truck, the tow capacity of the diesel is around 12000lbs and around 10000 for the gas version and that is 1/2 ton range and 2. you could option a ram 2500 with the 6.4 hemi that has a higher tow rating than the nissan and get it optioned like the nissan i would bet for around the same money
I agree. There are several brands who have a gas powered truck that is as good or better than Nissan. The Cummins, however, is such a special engine and the entire package of the Cummins Nissan is such a special truck that the only comparison would be another Cummins...which is only available in a 3/4 ton Dodge (or above)
Actually the dodge eco diesel 1500 would have been a more comparable truck
The Nissan's towing is that low? I mean with 310 hp and over 500 ft lbs of torque I really would of expected it to tow a little more than 11,000 lbs. The f-150 ecoboost can do more than that....
If the Nissan can only tow like 11,000 pounds don't even bother putting a 40-foot gooseneck on it 😂😂😂 and a the real cummins in the dodge that truck can tow a hell alot more then 18,000 pounds trying more 30,000 somthing if not more budy of mine drive hotshoting puling over 30,000 pounds all the time like nothing.
Heavy duty and medium duty diesel trucks all blow the Nissan out of the water...the Nissan is designed for a normal person who has a big boat and big toys, but still needs to commute to work.
BTW.. That Nissan that has the small Cummins "I Hear" is having all kind of problems.
80k Milee on mine, bought new, deleted def/ egr systems at 800 miles on the truck. Never once had a problem other then oil changes, and tires needing replacement.
I test drove the XD and the only thing I like is the rockford fosgate (if spelled that right) sound system. the XD is shitty 1/2 ton it has a super small rear end and a lot of trubo lag unlike the ram 2500
Nissan looks good, but have heard terrible things about the 5.0 Cummins engine!
They've had EGR leak problems and fuel injector problems as well. However, the trucks seem to perform better with 30-40000 miles on them than when new...by a lot. One of the big problems seems to be with the dealers themselves and their inexperience handling so much new technology at once. I applaud Nissan's effort but they really should have spent a lot more time getting the dealers on board...there's a reason why nobody else became a heavy-duty truck company overnight...including Toyota.
I own a 2016. Had serious issues with the EGR system, DEF system, coolant tanks splitting, engine power reduced, front end issues, etc. I've lifted the truck which did away with a majority of the factory components and haven't had any issues since. The ENTIRE EGR system has been replaced six times. The ENTIRE DEF system has been replaced four times. I've deleted, the EGR and DEF systems, tuned it, straight piped it, installed an oil catch can and installed a fully welded aluminum coolant tank. The catch can and coolant tank are made by CFT performance and highly recommend anything they sell. No, I'm not trying to plug them in just saying after doing the work to the truck it's a badass machine. Lesson learned, I won't be buying any first generation trucks from now on. One positive thing I will say about Nissan is their warranty is AMAZING. Any issue I had while under warranty was a no questions asked, always got me a courtesy truck and kept me involved through each time it was in the shop which was a lot. I've heard much better things about the 2018's and 2019's.
The dodge mirrors flip out and makes them tow mirrors
Good call superMrpena...the mirrors on both trucks are actually really cool.
cummins makes smaller 4 cyl engines that are used in box trucks, and most people are fond of cummins because of the "12 valve" and its simplistic design with ease of maintenance
superMrpena not on the truck he was reviewing but that's a easy fix
Great video! Love the history side!
that's a man's work truck
1:25. uh... not at all....this guy doesn't know that cummins makes smaller engines for things like woodchippers, generators and skidsteers.
Just a small correction. You mention a million gallons of diesel fuel and NOT gasoline!right? Also the Allison trans is the best! Of these two, I would hands down buy the Ram! While not in the need for 900lbs tq I could make due with the reg auto or the manual. But if I was to buy a full size diesel, it would have to be either the newest Chevy with over 900 ft lbs. or a Ford SD diesel with over 900 ft. Lbs. for a little more money than the import brand. It would come down to either ordering exactly what I wanted, or finding a close match at both a Chevy or Ford dealer and going for the best bottom line. If ordering a truck, you do get an advantage with the Ram, there are more options and colors to choose from. But the Chevy and Ford has more technology available. Also Ford and Ram have some very nice interiors available if you want to spend the money. Also Ford and Chevy along with Ram have some really powerful gas engines available to save on costs upfront.
You're right Kevin, it's a million gallons of diesel fuel. Also, you're far from alone in your praise for the Allison transmission...I love them too. Most people have never heard of Aisin Seiki but their newest transmissions are fantastic. Aisin Seiki is 30% owned by Toyota and they are serious about making the leap into becoming a mainstream brand.
The Fast Lane with Joe Tunney the one downside I've heard about the Aisin trans is its impossible to run a tune on the trans or engine its attached to!
K. R. V. Not true. All the 5500’s at work are deleted and tuned.
I dont know if you said it but the Titan also has a Aisin trans.
Even if Nissan matches the specs of Ram with lower price, people will still choose the Ram because they're buying a name... or because 'Murica!
Nobody said cummins was shit, cummins is great. Dodge trucks suck.
- Phantomz - that is a false statement. If the truck pulls and gets you where you need to go, it's a good truck
The Titan compares with the 1/2 ton trucks. Not 2500 series
Kindof yes and kindof no Josh. Technically it's a half ton, but in reality it's somewhere between a half and a 3/4 ton. If you see my review on the Titan by itself, you'll see it's way overbuilt for a half ton.
@@everycarSeattle It only tows 11k pounds.. .less than many of the 1/2 ton trucks out there now.. this truck is not overbuilt by half-ton standards in any way.
did he say an "overhaul after 1.7 million gallons of GAS".
That's why people love them so much...industrial-level build quality and engineering.
Pretty impressive for a diesel
Very informative! Thnx
Nice info
Thanks Brian...I appreciate you taking a look!