RAM 2500 Cummins DIESEL vs GAS (6.4 Hemi) | Which Engine Should you Buy? *Diesel Mechanic Explains*
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- I discuss whether a Diesel Engine (6.7 Cummins) or a Gas Engine (6.4 Hemi) is the better choice for you to buy in your pick up truck. I explained as a heavy duty diesel mechanic the issues and benefits with a modern diesel engine as well as the benefits of having a diesel engine for towing and power.
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I hope everyone is having a great day. I figured now that the price of Diesel fuel has come down a bit that people would be more open to the discussion of buying a diesel engine vs a gas engine. and at the end of the day it comes down to what you will be using the truck for.
1. towing
- If you are towing heavy or frequently the diesel option is by far your best options. It is a far superior engine for towing and will give you much much better performance under load then the gas engine.
2. Driving habits
- If you are not driving your truck long distances or often the gas engine is probably the better option. these modern diesel engine love getting nice and hot and worked hard, same for the emission systems. without that you will shorten the life of the diesel engine.
3. reliability
- unfortunately the reliability of diesel engine is no longer what it used to be. these diesel are having much more common problems thanks to the emission systems whereas the gas engine don't have emission systems and don't run into these issues making them a much more reliable option
4. Idle time
- If you know your truck will be idling, you should buy a gas engine. these diesel engine do not like to idle and you will shorten the life of the engine
5. payload
- if you want to maximize your trucks payload the gas engine is the best options for that because it simply weighs less then the diesel option.
those would be my 5 things to look at before buying a gas or diesel engine for your truck.
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The heart wants the cummins, the brain knows the gasser makes more sense
Follow the heart on this one, we’ve all got expiration dates.
When the Diesel mechanic drives a gas truck, there's your answer.
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I was a diesel mechanic for 15 years and it’s pretty rare for a diesel tech to daily drive a diesel pickup.
Exactly what I was thinking.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is why you buy an older diesel without that emissions crap on it. Or hit a large pothole and have parts fall off the newer trucks to last longer
I still drive my 1993 dodge W350 4x4 Cummins 5 speed proudly!
17000 lbs though??
@@Ford-2011is that towing capacity?
@@israelsarabia2700 yea can it pull 17000 lbs?
I used to think getting a 2500 gasser was dumb. Then I got my first work truck 2500 Chevy with the 6.6 gasser. Very impressed. With these new 8 and 10 speed transmissions paired with 410 and 4.30 rear ends these gasser tow great. The ONLY reason to buy a diesel is if you do hotshot for a living and you're towing every day. Towing the boat and camper on the weekends does not require a diesel. Not to mention all our fleet work trucks were diesels and we had all 3 big brands and they all had issues. Unless the epa drops the bullshit emissions requirements I won't buy a new diesel.
what if you live in CO at 10k feet and tow daily? Gasser?
@mikekenner9218 if you actually tow every day I would get a diesel. Towing toys on the weekends...not so much.
Best video I’ve seen for a comparison of gas vs diesel!! So much info and he described it well!!
Great honest thorough answering between Diesel or Gas. Thank You
Just traded in my 3.0 Duramax for a good old 5.3 gas engine. Bought my truck new with the 3.0 and put almost 54k on it and loved every minute of it. We towed our 5,000LBS travel trailer around 10,000 miles over the last 2-1/2 years. Towed great, fuel mileage was amazing, supper smooth engine. Why did I trade it in? Because over the 4th of July weekend my truck had a check engine light come on and limited me to 5 miles per hour after driving 200 miles. None of the dealerships could even look at it for over a week. What if I was on a long family vacation towing my trailer? We would have been stranded. I can reset codes and fix my 5.3 by myself. Super easy to work on and parts at every auto store. The Duramax requires the dealership to reset emissions codes.
Emissions? What's that. (Blows black smoke everywhere)
Delete, delete, delete.*
*offroad use only. 😉
bought 2023 laramie 6.4 hemi because of this video and I love it!
Nice to the point honest review. It definitely helps on picking the right truck
Well I don’t plan on towing a lot so I went to the 6.4 liter v8, thanks for the info
My pops bought a ram 2500 big horn 6.4L V8 yesterday and he loves it
Very good review. I was looking at both a 6.4L 2500 and 2500 Cummins. Since I only need it to tow a 5600lb travel trailer a few times a year I chose the 6.4L and saved the 10 grand. Also nice that he mentioned payload advantage with the gas engine. Seen a few comparisons videos were this is never even mentioned.
I tow a 6,500 lb travel trailer with a 6.4 and doesnt even feel it.
I too, tow around 7,000lb travel trailer and I'm very happy with my decision to go with the 6.4!
I tow 9k regularly with my 5.7. Should’ve saved more money and got better gas mileage
5600lbs could just do a 5.7 and save far more
Looking good ,keep up the fitness regiment!
Thanks for this. Really great comparison.
Glad I found your video. Looking to buy a new truck soon and was gonna go w the diesel till I came here and clearly the 6.4 will be a better fit for me. Really appreciate the way you explained everything. Thank you
Thank you for reviewing both the diesel and petrol engines. I am looking for a ram 2500 petrol and wasn't sure witch one to get as we will only be towing a 3ton caravan up to 4 times a year and commute to work.. i just like the hemi sound. Thx again 🤙👍
Love your videos and thank you for sharing this information. 😄
If and when you get a chance, would you be able to make a comparison video of the Freightliner M2 Cummins ISB 6.7 vs the version RAM has in their trucks? I hear they're almost the same but not exactly identical. Would love to see that. 😊
The exhaust brake on the diesel is huge piece of mind and much better on brakes.
Love the footage brother 🤙🏼
Running a 2022 powerwagon 6.4 🤟🏼
Great video I did the comparison a few years ago but had to watch 5 different videos to get this info. I picked the 6.4 Hemi with upgraded rear diff (more towing cap). The money saved went toward a better equipped truck.
Very informative. Do some weekend hauling with a Ram 1500 currently and was considering a diesel because of everything I had heard. Stumbled across this video and realized a gasser is probably the better choice for me. I have always wanted a Power Wagon so . . .
2007 Chevy Silverado 2500HD with the 6.0 vortec engine with 330,000 hard miles and still going. Use it to pull lawncare and dump trailer ever day and this truck is just going and going!
I have a 2021 6.7 stock and driving with 4 passengers and 80 gallons of diesel I’m getting 22-26 mpg. When towing a 32ft gooseneck trailer with 15k lbs I’m getting 15-18mph. I love this truck because of the good mileage it gives me and on one occasions I was able to pull a trailer that weighed 30,000-33,000 lbs. Currently my truck has 167,487 miles and only issue has been fuel pump due to adding to many fuel treatments according to the mechanic.
Your videos help me make a decision and ended buying the Ram 2500 2021 vs any other truck.
I bought the 2022 Laramie 2500 4x4 Hemi from dealer new inventory as a daily driver. We have been on several road trips with no towing beyond a single-axle utility trailer. No regrets from buying the gas engine.
TY SIR I WAS ON THE FENCE FOR MY RV TRAILER HAULER.
Bought the 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins. Starting looking at trading for a 2020 Ram 3500 for the Aisin and more payload. Started reading about the CP4 fuel pump issues and decided to keep my 2018 with a few after treatment modifications. Was the best way to go with 68RFE tuning since I don't tow more than 10K lbs. The engine runs cooler (oil and coolant temps) with the after treatment removal - we don't always mention this benefit.
I had my Cp4 fuel pump go out costed me 15k to fix the injectors fuel lines and a cp3 conversion (duramax) . I ended up trading it in for a 6.4 ram can’t notice the difference when towing
are you talking about a delete kit when you say after treatment
removal?
Love the comparison :) all very good points
Happy you enjoyed the video Lindsay!
Great video. Really helpful points. Thank you.
I had a 2018 Ram 3500 Larime with a 6.4 Hemi and 4.10 gears. It was a decent truck, but when I was towing, like you stated in your video, it could do it, but just seemed to struggle. I now have a 2022 Ram 3500 Limited Longhorn Mega Cab with the High Output Cummins. WOW what a difference. Now when I tow my 5th wheel it is so much better. The exhaust brake is wonderful. Not to mention being able to use the truck lanes to fill up. Also, using the Open Roads fuel discount program. Enjoy your videos.
You probably got a few inches taller w/ that bad boy!😂
The relaxed towing experience, plus the drama free ability to go down steep grades makes the diesel the clear choice for towing.
strictly in terms of towing the diesel is by far the better option, the gas engines are just fine but don't even come close to the diesel's towing performance.
@@TheGettyAdventures I had a Ram w/ 6.4 Hemi and it scaled at 23,160 lbs with the toy hauler. It did it, but it wasn't happy.
Absolutely
If you go gas and need to tow you should always make sure you got the right gear ratio too if your worried about it. Makes a decent difference
That is a great point about consistent short trips,l didn't know that. I had a harley that I was taking on short commutes,less than ten miles. Yeah that thing was condensing water into the crank case. Those air coolers are meant to run hot as well. Thanks, good to know.
nice job bud! solid vid
I bought a 22 3500 dually with a 4.10 rear! Love it. Yes gas is trash 7-8 mph 90% in town driving, towing about 7-10k daily on flat roads. When I got my truck it was $5ish a gallon for diesel and $10k for diesel upgrade. I get a way better payload because of the weight reduction; that’s what works best for me. After my first real truck vs a 22 tundra I had till my Ram came in from Mexico, gas works extremely well for local work and 6k of driving no issues, besides a lack of power when towing.
After talking with local people driving diesels, 75% of them don’t tow daily, i decided for me, gas would be the best for me and the business for not being stuck with modern ecu etc drama, I’ll be able to drive daily and not be stranded
I have to tow a trailer for work 5 days out of the week have been doing it for 15 years and the number one reason not to buy a diesel is that it is inevitable that the check engine light will come on and if you're lucky it will on be at the dealership for a week
Just bought a 24 ♈ 6.4 Tradesman your video proved even more I made the right decision.
Love my 2016 tradesman
@@jeremiahs5834 great news they are very nice trucks!
Looking into this... thank you for posting.
Because of your videos I went with a gasser. Took delivery of a 23 silverado 3500 6.6 gas (6 speed). I wanted the 6 speed because I don’t yet trust the 10 speed. Tows my 8k trailer wonderfully! Getting 10mpg towing, 15 mpg around town. Glad I didn’t choose diesel
Same. Got a 23 3500 DRW 6.6 gas. Love it
Let’s not forget about resale value. Even though the upfront and ongoing cost of the Cummins is higher, they’ll also hold their value much longer. I still agree with the points you made, but if cost is a factor resale is worth considering.
I daily a 2018 F350 diesel, it’s about a 20 mile commute to work every day. 70k miles no issues.
I think it is worth jumping up to a gas 3/4 for the 1/2 ton guys too. If you tow anything above 5,000 pounds on a regular basis I think the gas 3/4 ton is going to make life better.
Thank you so much brother for lots of information about!✊👍🤝
I can realte to the def system my kw t680 always has issues with the def system. I was looking for 2500 cummings dodge but now with this video, im looking at gas dodge. Thank you for the video..
I’ve got a 2019 Ram diesel. I tow a long travel trailer, and a 16’ enclosed trailer. My Ram 5.7 did terrible pulling the enclosed trailer cross country. I like the diesel power and exhaust brake. I don’t like DEF, or changing fuel filters.
My diesel tows at 30 mpg…..zero range loss. It’s a German diesel (3L TDI) but just as an example the efficiency of diesel is unmatched. Gas is great as a work truck, would entertain a 6.4, short tows, small loads.
Alex thanks for the videos and looking forward to see more of your videos. I have a question about 6.4. Is the hemi tick still an issue that can be problem and how to prevent it?
I have the hemi, I run the rotella diesel oil in it and no hemi tick
I saw a comparison showing the torque curves for the different gas engine HD trucks and the 6.4 was by far the weakest torque in the lower RPM range.
Thank you very much for the vid.
The extra price of the diesel is worth it to me but I don't want the headache of all the diesel emission equipment. I've got a sweet. lightly modified (400HP) 2003 HO w/130K but I just want something new. However, I suspect I would be sorely disappointed in an expensive new gas truck when I pull my 12K trailer over our mountain pass and it wont move as well as my 20 y/o truck did.
Oh and I only use it for towing about 15-20 times a year and only rack up 6k miles per yr.
Greetings Alex.
excellent work and comparison for me both options are really excellent in RAM. In gasoline I love the e-torque system; I think that for the moment it is more reliable than the disconnection of cylinders,,; since the latter compromise the lubrication of the engine. From my own experience, the e-torque system helps save fuel in the 3.6 V6 and 5.7-liter V8 HEMI engines. But for heavy load work and long distance runs; As well as use of more than 8 hours a day for more than five work days a week, my choice will undoubtedly be the RAM powered (High Output) Cummins 6.7 diesel.
I enjoy so much yours videos y comments.
Big hug from CDMX, México 😮
Hate the cylinder disconnect system. Just stupid! They put that in my 2012 Ram. So I defeated them by selecting the highest gear on the gear selector buttons, or the tow haul mode cancels the cylinder disconnect
@ftbrip I think the cylinder disconnect garbage contributes to the lifter tick noise, especially if you have a gear ratio that keeps your RPMs low at highway speeds. I always disable it and no lifter noise yet at 65k miles.
My son and I recently towed our tandem dually 25’ 12 ton on the deck capable cam superline equipment trailer in which weighs 6500 pounds it’s self from upstate New York to Harrisburg Pennsylvania in which consist of ALOT of mountainess towing to pick up our new power paver in which weighs 11,000 pounds for a total of 17,500 pounds being towed with our 2020 ram 2500 6.4 hemi 4:10 gear and an 8 speed auto we were just about spot on max rated towing with this gear ratio and was a little skeptical to say the least on how it was gonna do thinking this truck is probably gonna struggle pretty hard and we both ended up being VERY SURPRISED on how well it did on power not struggling to much at all and fuel mileage we averaged in the low 9 range we were very impressed with this package especially considering the terrain that we were towing in so I give it a big 👍 up personally !!!
Got recently a 2021 Ram 6.7 with 16K miles over gas. I tow an enclosed trailer for my lawn service weight 4,500 lbs. I will also tow a few times my Travel trailer 31 foot total weights nearly 6K I carry light
Great video & info but I think 🤔 you left out an important issue while towing , especially out west with the steep grades . What about the gasser & braking system vs the diesel & exhaust braking, especially on these steep long grades out west . Can you upgrade the brakes on a gasser for better safety ? ? Thx again . 👍⚾️
As a tech, what are your recommendations on how to best maintain the after treatment systems ? I’m at 80k on my 6.7 poerstroke with no issues so far, but want to stay ahead of things any way I can
My dad has that exact same 2500 Cummins. Rims and tires and all. When we don’t use it for what it’s for, running hot and hard, it’ll tell us to drive around until the system can clear some exhaust filter. And it’s so random you could be on your way to work and you can’t shut off the truck. So now you have to give her the beans for 30 minutes and now you’re late and then your fired and now you can’t afford the payments. Luckily it’s our businesses work truck now so she tows every day and I like hearing the turbo whistle my name so she gets ridden real hard
That’s why I take great care of my 05 Dodge 3500 4 door long bed dullay with 6 speed trans and manual 4 wheel drive selector and ordered it new and my fist cummins was a 1992 12 valve 5 speed and that truck will run a million mile truck .
I was leaning toward the gasser, but found a great deal on a sub 20k miles used Cummins. Long road trips and derates are my biggest fears. Currently put in hotshot secrets and FBC fuel catalyst. Mostly long highway driving with infrequent towing so fingers crossed.
Right now I have a 2014 Ford diesel I bought new. Emissions intact. I use it just for towing north of 10,000 lbs. It’s been a good truck but I have spent a ton of money on maintenance over the years and recently spent about $20 grand on repairs for the cp4 failure and a sensor on the dpf caused it to derate and quit regen’ing. Fortunately they were able to save the dpf with a good cleaning. So I’m really starting to think that if I can get away with a good gas engine I’ll do it, even if I have to sacrifice some power and fuel economy. I may even save more money in the long run not paying for all the maintenance costs on the diesel and all the fuel additives and def fluid, etc.
Had the same cp4 issue with my duramax switched to the gas 6.4 haven’t regretted it one bit
I needed to hear this
I am from Kenya and i realy love American trucks i wish they could make right hand drive for Africa because with the kind of roads we have you guys can't utilize full potential of your trucks like us here .I just wanted to say toyota still makes the most reliable diesel engine the 1HZ 4.2L inline 6 naturally aspirated.The engine has the longest production time frame to date for the landcruiser pick up trucks.
I’ve been shopping on and off for a F250 to tow my 7500lb travel trailer so I have enough payload to safely take my family. The really comical thing is if you can find a 7.3 Godzilla truck on the used market its nearly the same price as a Power Stroke truck with in 2-4k asking price usually.
I own a 2022 Ram with the Hemi. I have just over 17,000lbs towing and 2,900lbs payload. I use every bit of those numbers. About every weekend or so. I have no regrets getting a gas trucks as of now. Just the other week i towed a 50G excavator. Through Pennsylvania its was some highway, but mostly through the country. It did more than ok. The only thing I regret not getting was airbags.
That's small numbers though
@jeepwk6.5L Small numbers for a 3/4 ton trucks? Please enlighten me .
I personally went with the hemi. Not only because I can’t justify the price of the diesel. But because I honestly don’t want the headache that comes with a lot of them anymore. I never tow more than 14,000 pounds. And on average I typically tow around 7 to 8000 pounds. So my 19 6.4 hemi geared for the 4.10 pulls everything that I need to just fine. I will say I have been tempted by Ford and Chevy‘s new gassers. But at the time that I bought it my truck was the best equipped you could get a work truck. And for the best price. The only regret I have is I wish I had gotten it in a 3500.
The price of a diesel is about 10 grand more, but if you look at used trucks, the same truck mileage and model, is still about 10 grand more.
My next truck is going to be one of those 6.4 Hemi 2500 Ram I'm looking at the Tradesman package
Awesome Video!!
Thank you sir!
I have a 6000 gvwr travel, trailer, which I tow biweekly or once a month. Besides that I drive 12 miles to get to work which option would be better for me. I live in Arizona and my current truck idols a lot to cool down the cab before the drive.
I have a 2021 ram 3500 Cummins dually I bought for 65k it with 30,000 miles on it and I put $30,000 into my wheels (22 American Force) 37 inch Ridge Grapplers, Fox shocks 2.0 and AMP steps. I also put another $10,000 into deleting and aftermarket turbos and other engine parts like cold air intake it's worth about 100 grand. As well as towing after my delete I'm getting 22mpg for my truck, before the delete i was getting 16 to 18mpg. It doesn't roll coal which is nice, it drives like a Corvette.
I bought a 2020 Silverado gas dually crew cab long bed 4x4 I regularly tow 16-20k flatbed trailers full of hay from property to property I went with the gas because of the emissions issues all diesel manufacturers are having thousands of dollars wasted on sensor issues gas engine doesn’t have that problem might use a little more fuel and get the job done slower but at least I’m not seeing down time anymore.
My diesel truck is slow to warm up and slow to cool down, a real pain at times. There is a hot weather routine of cooling down the diesel so no damage is done to the supercharger. A cold weather environment demands the diesel is plugged in for the block heater to slightly warm the engine. Some diesels are very hard to start in cold weather. My particular diesel truck is modified for the best fuel mileage I can get. My diesel truck sits unused a lot, especially in the winter months, October through March.
2013 diesel Cummins.
Dpf filter clogged 1300 miles from home on a personal emergency trip. It didn't restrict the speed but the warning for it did pop up. Mpg dropped to about 8 or less during this and it was stuck constantly "cleaning dpf filter".
*Needed* my vehicle for this and it was in the shop for 3 out of the 4 days I had available. Dpf filter system had to be cut out, cleaned, and rewelded back in ($$$$) .
I've completely lost faith in diesel trucks due to this and one of the signs I noticed prior to this failing was lower fuel mileage than normal and a Def tank that seemingly lasts forever. If your mpg has dropped off, get that dpf system inspected.
I've been waiting for this for a while... Seems like diesels are becoming more trouble than they are worth. Now my research has been the 7.3 Godzilla vs the 6.4 Hemi.
Check TFL towing tests, although in unloaded acceleration they are close, when maxed out, the 7.3 is far superior and port injected so no carbon build up issues
7.3L is a really nice set up, the 6.4 hemi with the 8 speed is not bad but the ford 7.3L is leading the charge.
6.4 Hemi is a beast My 2016 Power Wagon was a trick to drive on wet roads. I am sure 7.3 will be as well
I’ve got a Ram 2500 mega cab with the 6.4 hemi. It’s got a Bilstein level kit sitting on 35s so it’s a pretty large truck that sits as high as some 1/2 tons with 6”-8” lifts. I tow a 30’ travel trailer that’s lightweight. The rv weighs 6200 lbs empty and the truck weighs 7200 with me in it. Right off the bat the truck outweighs the camper by 1000 lbs. I chose the 6.4 gas motor because we only tow it about 5x a year. Other than that it’s a daily driver. I’m very glad I didn’t go with the Cummings because I don’t want those emissions issues and I wanted something new, not an old diesel. Great video
What is your mileage while towing?
@@ftbrip @8 mpg lol
@@teedubya5772Around town and highway MPG?
First ! Going to watch now.
Alex, do you have the opportunity to review the Nissan Patrol/Armada/Titan's V8 engine ? It's a very diffeent design from your Hemi but gets comparable figures.
I don't at the moment unfortunately but hoping to extend to those trucks at some point!
Just purchased a 2022 6.4L used. Had 3 diesels trucks previously but now you can’t delete them anymore. The emission problems are a headache.
Great info! I have a '22 HO and tow a 13-14k fifth wheel camper 5-6 times a year. I did consider the 6.4, but I work from home full time so I dont have as many short drives as someone heading into the office. I do think the ZF is an amazing transmission, maybe the best available in the industry. I went HO solely for the Aisin.
Great option! that HO cummins is a work horse and your towing experience is probably nice and relaxed having such a capable engine.
@@TheGettyAdventures it's great. My only observation is that it tries to hold 6th gear too long on hills before downshifting and by then sometimes it drops to 4th. I've learned to use the gear limiter dropping it to 5th when approaching hills.
I want an off road RV similar to the Earthromer. Put wheels around 40", an elevator, and maybe on-board gears (portal axles, portal gears) like the MB Unimog.
But scares diesel for Turkey, Georgia, Mongolia, northern Russia.
ZF is hands down the best, mass produced transmission in the industry, 2nd only to the Porsche PDK in terms of quality and performance. I hear good things about it for the Rams as the 8 speed though I don't know much about the ZF in the HD application.
I own a 2017 Ram 5500 crew cab 4x4 that was custom ordered from factory with a 6.4 Hemi, 4:88 axles & manual transfer case. Had the frame stretched 3 feet & built into a custom flatbed tow truck. Empty its 15k lbs.... it literally Tows every single day... I've NEVER had a single problem with the truck Since new. (There has been a wiring issue with lights down the side of the flatbed, but that wasn't a Ram issue, it was the towing equipment manufacturer that did poor wiring. Even loaded with 2 vehicles on it... I've never regretted not getting the Cummins.... as you said, the engines are amazing, but the government emissions systems are problematic for EVERY brand and every class truck from light duty pickups all the way up to commercial OTR semis.... frankly it doesn't do any good if its under warranty.... the problem usually is the issues are so common... parts are always on national back order... so the truck is still out of commission. The gas chassis is perfectly capable, Quiet, gas is cheaper, no DEF to buy, no constant fuel filter changes, oil changes are cheaper, they start easily in long cold sub zero winters. Yes, the mileage is about 2-3mpg less thana diesel, but the gas is usually quite a it cheaper & easier to find in rural areas so it still works out cheaper since theres no Def & fuel filters & all the diesel drama... the high torque new diesel trucks literally have so much power. They can tear themselves apart if you work em hard... even in a worst case scenario, if the gas engine craps out sooner than the diesel would...you can literally get a new crate engine & swap it out in a weekend & still be less than the cost of buying the diesel in the beginning. The 4500 & 5500 chassis 6.4 is actually detuned for LESS hp/tq than the same engine in a pickup. That's for long term durability since they're designed to operate maxxed out daily vs the occasional pickup owner here n there.... I'm in the upper Midwest, so no mountains to climb, high elevation where ya need a turbo because the air is thin.... so the 6.4 Hemi has been an amazing chassis & been 100% reliable even though it literally is operating at max GVW every day. Many professional towing companies are actually switching to gas engines in the light duty towing like wreckers & 5500 flatbeds etc just for reliability.... warranty means nothing if the trucks always down waiting on parts.... Gas Wins...
Hoping you are willing to weigh in on what I should do. I live in Cincinnati (below freezing 2 months of the year, may be 3). During the summer, I tow a boat (7500 lbs) 60 miles round trip 2-3 times a week May - September. Almost daily, however, I drive just 5-6 miles round trip. I feel like you are going to tell me that I should get a gasser. Is there anything that I could do to help combat the short trips I take daily?
Can you do review on the 6.2 or 5.3 gm and tundra.
Bro ! Mandals & whit socks 😂😂😂
Another great video, I'm definitely a gasser guy.
Great video Alex. I bought a 3500 with the HO Cummins & Aisin because I thought I might want to tow a fifth wheel RV at some point in the future. Usual driving is occasional 20-30 minute trips around town but once every couple weeks I take it out for an hour or more drive, get on the interstate & open it up. Also 3-4 times per year I drive it from FL to VA-MD to visit clients. Drive straight through both ways-12 hours at a shot. I’m hoping that burns out any crud that may have built up over the past couple months. I also have started towing a 15k fifth wheel with it. Very comfortable truck to drive long distances and it is a beast at towing. Love the exhaust brake. I use it every time I drive. Love your videos, keep up the great work.
Idling time is a killer for HEMI engines too. Oil pressure drops too much and will lead to lifter issues.
6.2 hellcat higher volume oil pump is the fix to have that thing run forever
@@benmartin6476 that would be a good fix if true. I experienced the lifter issue on my 2014 RAM. New engine = $12,000!
Absolutely love my 2014 6.4L 2500. Does everything I throw at it and more. I honestly believe that most of the people who own a diesel will never use them for what they are meant for unless constantly hauling equipment and such. Each to their own.
That was me, had a ‘14 Cummins and this last round went ‘22 6.4. If I towed our livestock trailer more and further then I do every week I’d go diesel but the distance and times I tow the gas is fine.
Yes
There’s a catch 22 here on idle.
Manual sez you need to idle down after use up to 10 minutes. To keep your turbo from coaling up & causing an actuator failure!
Seems you can’t have your cake and eat it too
I had a 2500 Silverado with the Duramax on lease, I loved the truck but on a couple of occasions I got the dreaded DEF fuel message. I moved down to a half ton but I'm pretty much maxed on capacity with my camper. So I'm seriously considering going to a gas HD. The potential headaches and expenses kinda scare me! Although, I will say that the big diesel engine was a beast!!!
I drive long distance to work a few back from SA TX to Austin TX everyday, all highway miles. Averaging 150 miles a day. I want a truck that will last as long as possible so would the Gas engine be a better suit for me rather than the diesel? I don't tow anything nor do I have any payload in the back
This is why I went to the 7.3 Godzilla. Way too many emissions on modern diesels that ruined for me. Yes you can go pay for deletes or you can just fuel up the gasser and go!
So if I were to shop for a used Ram 2500 Cummins, is that last year for a "good one" be 2012 like you mentioned?
Does MDS make the engine more reliable? We use trucks for towing and snow removal in our landscaping business. MDS seems like unwanted option in our application. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Your videos are great
If I didn’t currently own a diesel I wouldn’t be buying a new one. Definitely going gas once this starts giving me issues.
have you had the same problem with a squeling noise that sounds like a belt squeling . bought a 2019 6.4 ram 2500 and ram can’t figure it out . wished i went to diesel
I think a huge point you forgot to mention, is the longevity of a diesel engine over gas. I drive 25k miles in my work truck per year. I don't tow much, but if I were to buy a brand new truck with a gas engine, at about 200k miles I would probably want to get rid of it. That's only 8 years, I would have just paid it off by then. With a diesel at 200k miles it's only half way through its life. If I want to keep my truck for 15+ years diesel is the only way to go. Also it will keep it's resell value a lot more at those higher miles than a gas
UPDATE: dealer opened STAR case with Chrysler. Their solution: needs new updated HCU. However this part is on backorder and not available until Feb. 2024!
You mentioned reliability. That has been a major issue with my 2017 Ram 2500 Cummins diesel (I tow a travel trailer long distances). Nothing but trouble with the DEF system. Got caught with the dreaded limp mode warning 2x. Turned out clogged DEF injector was the culprit. Also the ABS module and HCU have failed twice in the last couple years. Currently dealing with constant ABS warning lights and chimes so I think these POS parts are failing again not to mention other reliability problems such as failed 4WD actuator and AC system. Not sure these are diesel issues or Ram issues but just poor quality all around.
Performance at altitude is another huge factor. If you live in Colorado or similar, turbo diesel engines are virtually unaffected by altitude. Gas atmospheric engines have significant power loss.
We tow 14500lbs all the time with our GMC 2500hd 6.0 gasser. We travel a lot pulling our 5th wheel. I looked at diesel, but with all the emission issues.. no thanks!
What emission issue I can pull 40,000 pounds no problem 3500 Ram Cummins HO
I had a 3/4 ton 6.4 and the mpg was absolutely horrible! Also the 6.4 struggled and screamed going up steep mountains and hills! I'll pay the extra 10K+ premium! I love the power and mpg! But hey to each their own!
It is possible for the injectors to go bad if the computer got damaged? Is on a 2016 2500 Ram
I have 5 diesels in my fleet decided I needed another truck but didn’t want to keep buying overpriced fuel. The 6.4 will tow but it does love gas .& yes there is a lag on the gas engine my 5.9 does better & the 6.7 is better and my deleted 6.7 is a beast .
I have a 2016 ram 3500 with 6.7l. tows like a champ, the jake brake works great, brtter then the ford 6.7 i drove as well. I always hear about the emissions problems choking these engines, making then run harder and wearing em out. I personally deleted mine- instant 60 bhp increase with hi flow system. But i wanna know since im only about 10 years in the diesel crowd, How did this junk ever get thru to law or did the Czars at the epa implement this directly?
Good info, however you REALLY missed the mark in discussing Payload. You made the very serious mistake of not speaking to the pin/hitch weight of larger trailers compared to the available payload on the Ram 2500 6.7. In any larger size gooseneck or fifth wheel, with a 2500 6.7 you run out of Payload LONG before you ever hit those higher towing numbers. This is a very real problem, and it's really unfortunate that this was damaged by not bringing this up regarding towing. Too many people mistakenly don't associate payload with Towing, but it is super important.