Not worth the risk but 8 millions to caufield for 8 years was? Zegras is the best bargain of all the nhl , he only makes 5.3 for only two more years , no long term commitment but long enough to evaluate him and make a long term decision. Montreal will be forced to trade good prospect defensemen this summer and nobody on the habs roster has zegras type numbers at the same age and Zegras been on horrible teams , plus he suffer an ankle injury which takes the longest time , he also knows caufield and Montreal second centre is Jake Evans So not sure how that would be a bad pick up , when you’re paying gallagher 6.5, Anderson 5.5. Montreal needs imidiate offensive talent , not some grinder . I love how he nit picks zegras bad play, how about making a video of gallagher, ylonen, Anderson highlights 😂😂😂 Last thing the habs need is a point getting center🤦♂ they’re set with Pezzetta, dvorak and Evans 🤦♂
Hope your toilet paper is not gritty lol... A team needs balance right We have caufield and Newhook and Hutson as Small dudes If we go Zegras... then forget Kidney, Mesar, Roy, Beck, Kapanen The focus of the habs is probably on bigger dudes or to trade small dudes... in same trade Steph
Great show guys as usual... Last year all of the hype was around Pierre Luc Dubois and now its Zegras. I'm hoping that Kent Hughes stays away from him and doesn't use his trade chips... Rocco and Grant are right when they say he shows up casually and is soft...
If you trade the Ducks....send Anderson there and take Pavol Regenda....prospect, character like Slaf, big, strong, good shot and speed. And you'll save a lot of money
I think habs fans saying no to Zegras is nuts. 22 years old and two 20 goals seasons and two seasons of 60+ points. Habs lack young talented offence and there are so few options available. This seems like a golden opportunity for Montréal, and trading some 1st round picks in what's expected to be a rather weak draft year for offensive players seems like a great deal. Surrounded by the right coaching and players i'm sure he'd be a great fit in Mtl.
@@Blue-bv1urHow many are likely to pan out? Zegras at 22 has shown he has huge potential. There's not a ton of centers under the age of 23 with two 60 points and 20 goals seasons before 22. Also, how likely are we to even get a pick in the top 10? The Habs certainly aren't great, but there's a real possibility they finish above the bottom 10 teams this year. Just my opinion though.
Great points guy... but i prefer to pick a talented player at 7th that will cost not much for 5 years than the Zegras phenomenon that will cost sooo much (and be good maybe in 3-5 years) cap wise... i will put my money on defense soon Steph
I said it already trade for Middlestadt,get Regenda from Ducks,if he doesnt work out okay fk but he would cost like 4th round pick,saw him play he has such a drive,good skating,ask for johnson or johnston he is 20yo,Berggren is good option too. To sum it up dach witch middlestadt and either overpay for johnston berggren or try it with regenda just imagine it big fast strong line with serious secondary scoring
Pretty sure Grant watched way more than my 20 games i saw Ze... and his video clips are very clear... I guess your management does not like him much ... no contractt for long... then he is told his game has to change and... very little change and points.... i still see a 70 points minus 25 guy... in most teams... so your management want to trade him... i understand
@@user-superf the whole trade rumor was from speculation by Frank Seravalli. And it was based off of lack of understanding of why Gauthier was acquired. I’m not in the camp that Zegras doesn’t need to improve in certain areas nor do I think he’s a superstar, but the idea that he’s some trick shot merchant is not true. I see him being similar to a Keller or Fiala type when he’s at his peak
I was musing that zegras would be a good fit in Pittsburg. Penguins can handle a “problem” child. That franchise could use a top 6 forward, but they lost their best trade chip to ltir which would work as part of a 3 team trade. Guentzal to a contender, pick and prospect to the quacks. Cest la guerre
I hope every team kicking the tires with Zegras decides not to go after him. His two way game was improving before his injury and with the center depth the Ducks have he will probably start playing wing, which the Ducks need more of. He is going to keep developing and has a very good chance at being a point per game player. Why trade for someone you already have.
O grant by the way my brother in law lives in swan river mb and nos the Hutson family there from bowsman mb which is 8 miles from swan river especially the dad rob tha trip from wpg is 5 1/2 hrs north west
And my sister ex-husband's grandmother was the cousin of Hutson 's great aunt lol just joking loll Sorry Leon... hope u have a sense of humor Swan River... heard great things about it... but i only know the road from Moosehorn, Hilbre, Grand Rapids to Thompson
@farmerlalande I mean sure, but both are lazy, both can't back check, both have caused issues in the locker rooms of the respective teams they've been on (that's the rumor atleast). I'd much rather they draft and develop than go out and possibly get a "problem"
McCagg was talking about people want to ignore this year and only look at those 60 pt seasons I go one further even in those 60 pt years he was a minus 20+ each year. The other guy brought up a VERY big point one that I also share and that is "winning" type hockey skil alone means nothing if your giving up more goals AND losing battles and or not playing well defensively something the habs do not need anymore of those type players. You know who else was VERY skilled and did not pan out a guy the Habs traded to Colo >>>Drouin.
I love zegras SKILLS .. BUT NO DOG IN HIM ... HE IS JUST A RABBIT. I DONT GO TO WAR W A RABBIT 😂BALLERINAS ... R MADE 4 THE STAGE... NOT THE BATTLE FIELD😢
Some brutal takes here. Just as bad as grants takes on Tony’s show last night. Tony was literally about to pull his hair out when Grant was going on about Zegras. KK scored one OT goal in playoffs and Grant uaed it to justify taking him 3rd over Brady. Then argued that if Habs had taken Brady they wouldn’t have Slaf. These are some galaxy brain takes and honestly, also a little petty.
Grant McCagg is ignoring the reasons why he's doing what he's doing right now. His ''I've read his Hockey DB'' analysis is on par with those 2 douchenozzles who called Slaf a bust.
Even if Zegras is not my type of player ... i would offer J Barron ( to replace Drysdale and we have Reinbacher and Mailloux), a young talent like Kidney/Farrel/Bogdan... and a second pick... just to please the croud and have a Second power play and a 6th forward of talent ( goal scorers are tough to find) But i doubt Anaheim will say yess... so forget it... Rocco... i love what you bring ... the details... but this time i am not in love with your riser... i would say Grants riser will go 60 picks higher... your guy seems like a good fourth line guy...no key talent. On my side... Nygard keeps growing on me from the end of the first round he was months ago... he now is tied for 10th with Iginla and Helenius just so strong for a talented 2 way guy... worst case 3 rd line but second is highly possible... i still hope the habs gets Lindstrom or DemiGod ( Demidov) Lastly... i loved you talked about... should the habs get Zegras... would love to see your imput on going hard for Middlestadt, Erikson Ek... 25 to 27 years old great number 5 forward on our team ( under 6 millions)... my question to all is... who would be the perfect player in the nhl we should be agressive... tradewise... according to your evaluation of the player and the needs we ( habs) have Go Recrutes go Steph
Grant got tunnel vision , he dont take in consideration the mental state of the player , is overall happiness ... he feel he is not wanted there so why sweat and blood for that team ? Zegras with is buddy Caufield and with Suzuki Slaf in the hand of MSL playing in montreal he will trive ....And he is 22.. at the same price of hte dach or newhook trade it will be a big mistake to not trade for him
@@user-superf weak mentaly lol ... the kid is cocky , he got attitude and dont give a shit about the duck . that weak mentaly for you ? he is a high iq guy and if he start working sky is the limit he got to much skill
@@josephsegnor Mmm First you say bouhou poor baby is mentally affected... unhappy( weak type i read) then you go full 180 and say he is brave and cocky... both are negatives big time concerning Montreal... for now i just see supertalent skills at times...who is not playing the game properly... yet... and the habs team that is built is a mix of humility, self confidence and hard work ( Slaf Suz Cauf Dach Mathe...) adding a potential rotten apple is dangerous... but hey... They know more then us... starting by Caufield... why nobody congratulated Zegras when he scored that important goal... maybe he had the flu and thats why... who knows Go Recrutes go
@@user-superf Matheson lol cannot make a pass to slaf like zegras teamates dont pass to him and he overated as fuck ... they should trade him asap while he still have good value . when Matheson arrive in montreal he had 0 value no he does buy low sell high ... i dont know if matheson was mentaly affected before he come to montreal ? if you realy hype over Hutson like i do Grant you should be talking about trading Matheson instead of building around him ... its weird Matheson have doesnt play much playoff games in is carreer or never pass the 1st round with lot of exit in 4 or 5 lol
Man Grant gets way too stubborn once he forms an opinion on a player. "He scores a highlight reel goal every 40 games and thats it" as he shows highlights from a terrible season Zegras is having where he's only even played 20 games. Maybe analyze the years where he had 60+ as a rookie and sophomore. Im not even sure Id want Zegras, but argue your point in good faith at least
I agree with you that this season is not the best to evaluate Zegras but I suggest you argue your point with the same soft touch Grant usually have ... not making personal attacks like... you are stubborn.... It felt you took his comment a bit personnally... lol No matter... i agree with you that he is prob a 70 points guy in the future but with a minus 25 lol Go Recrutes go Steph
Saying someone is being stubborn is a personal attack now...alright. Learn something new every day. If you're cherry picking data to prove your point I am not sure what word would be more applicable and less offensive@@user-superf
Yes totally grant is absolutely correct on zegrasssss not worth the risk plus not worth what the ducks would want in return
Not worth the risk but 8 millions to caufield for 8 years was? Zegras is the best bargain of all the nhl , he only makes 5.3 for only two more years , no long term commitment but long enough to evaluate him and make a long term decision. Montreal will be forced to trade good prospect defensemen this summer and nobody on the habs roster has zegras type numbers at the same age and Zegras been on horrible teams , plus he suffer an ankle injury which takes the longest time , he also knows caufield and Montreal second centre is Jake Evans
So not sure how that would be a bad pick up , when you’re paying gallagher 6.5, Anderson 5.5. Montreal needs imidiate offensive talent , not some grinder .
I love how he nit picks zegras bad play, how about making a video of gallagher, ylonen, Anderson highlights 😂😂😂
Last thing the habs need is a point getting center🤦♂ they’re set with Pezzetta, dvorak and Evans 🤦♂
@stephaneferron5317 I heard rumours Anderson Harris for pld ??
Grant and Rocco have some good points. Zegras looks as gritty as toilet paper.
Hope your toilet paper is not gritty lol...
A team needs balance right
We have caufield and Newhook and Hutson as Small dudes
If we go Zegras...
then forget Kidney, Mesar, Roy, Beck, Kapanen
The focus of the habs is probably on bigger dudes or to trade small dudes... in same trade
Steph
Great show guys as usual... Last year all of the hype was around Pierre Luc Dubois and now its Zegras. I'm hoping that Kent Hughes stays away from him and doesn't use his trade chips... Rocco and Grant are right when they say he shows up casually and is soft...
Excellent scouting report from Grant. Zegres, NO THANKS!
Great Show Guys
I agree, For Trevor S
There is a problem or some situation, that they are trading him.
Until next week 😊
Hey what about going after Jason Robertson! What do you guys think ?
Yeah 1000% agree with grant !
If you trade the Ducks....send Anderson there and take Pavol Regenda....prospect, character like Slaf, big, strong, good shot and speed. And you'll save a lot of money
I was thinking we need another Slaf. Dang, they're all big in Slovakia!!!
I think habs fans saying no to Zegras is nuts. 22 years old and two 20 goals seasons and two seasons of 60+ points. Habs lack young talented offence and there are so few options available. This seems like a golden opportunity for Montréal, and trading some 1st round picks in what's expected to be a rather weak draft year for offensive players seems like a great deal. Surrounded by the right coaching and players i'm sure he'd be a great fit in Mtl.
He’s not worth a top 8 pick the top 10 is highly skilled.
@@Blue-bv1urHow many are likely to pan out? Zegras at 22 has shown he has huge potential. There's not a ton of centers under the age of 23 with two 60 points and 20 goals seasons before 22.
Also, how likely are we to even get a pick in the top 10? The Habs certainly aren't great, but there's a real possibility they finish above the bottom 10 teams this year.
Just my opinion though.
Great points guy... but i prefer to pick a talented player at 7th that will cost not much for 5 years
than the Zegras phenomenon that will cost sooo much (and be good maybe in 3-5 years)
cap wise... i will put my money on defense soon
Steph
@@nc8507Highly unlikely. With Monahan traded Montreal will fall down in the standings. Montreal won’t finish higher than 5th
Eh chat guys
Reading you i discovered a player i did not know
Pavol Regenda
curious now
will look him up
Steph
To many of the same plaayers styles is bad keep in mind Hutson will be here soon. Lets get a few more big hardasses.
Why did the Hawks trade Dach? to tank. Ducks are eyeing McKenna in 2026
Rather trade for CROSBY
I said it already trade for Middlestadt,get Regenda from Ducks,if he doesnt work out okay fk but he would cost like 4th round pick,saw him play he has such a drive,good skating,ask for johnson or johnston he is 20yo,Berggren is good option too. To sum it up dach witch middlestadt and either overpay for johnston berggren or try it with regenda just imagine it big fast strong line with serious secondary scoring
Grant convinced me, don't need another Drouin
Zegras isn’t anything close to drouin he’s way better. Grant isn’t always right. He said kotkaniemi would be a good nhl player he’s not.
@@noluck9679 Drouin at the time was a highly touted prospect coming off a huge playoffs. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it! ;)
- Guys that don’t watch Z. But fine by me, no ducks fans want him to get moved we love him here
Pretty sure Grant watched way more than my 20 games i saw Ze... and his video clips are very clear... I guess your management does not like him much ... no contractt for long... then he is told his game has to change and... very little change and points.... i still see a 70 points minus 25 guy... in most teams... so your management want to trade him... i understand
@@user-superf the whole trade rumor was from speculation by Frank Seravalli. And it was based off of lack of understanding of why Gauthier was acquired. I’m not in the camp that Zegras doesn’t need to improve in certain areas nor do I think he’s a superstar, but the idea that he’s some trick shot merchant is not true. I see him being similar to a Keller or Fiala type when he’s at his peak
I was musing that zegras would be a good fit in Pittsburg. Penguins can handle a “problem” child. That franchise could use a top 6 forward, but they lost their best trade chip to ltir which would work as part of a 3 team trade. Guentzal to a contender, pick and prospect to the quacks. Cest la guerre
l can't help but get the feeling that Grant might not like Zegras 🤔
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hope every team kicking the tires with Zegras decides not to go after him. His two way game was improving before his injury and with the center depth the Ducks have he will probably start playing wing, which the Ducks need more of. He is going to keep developing and has a very good chance at being a point per game player. Why trade for someone you already have.
O grant by the way my brother in law lives in swan river mb and nos the Hutson family there from bowsman mb which is 8 miles from swan river especially the dad rob tha trip from wpg is 5 1/2 hrs north west
And my sister ex-husband's grandmother was the cousin of Hutson 's great aunt
lol just joking loll
Sorry Leon... hope u have a sense of humor
Swan River... heard great things about it... but i only know the road from Moosehorn, Hilbre, Grand Rapids to Thompson
@@user-superf #6 highway to 68 hwy west through dauphin is the way we go
Need to spread this far and wide in Montreal. Dude is a sideshow of a player.
I would give Harris and a late 1st max
Might as well not make an offer if thats gonna be it
I don't wanna be mean, but let's remember what he said about Connor McDavid
The problems with his play... aren't those coachable things?
Caufield was the same type of player and look at him now...
I think he is a PLD 2.0 so it would be very difficult to "coach" him out of those habits
@Jake23115 the big difference is that Zegras didn't ask out of Anaheim like PLD that asked out of two NHL teams and allegedly did the same in junior
@farmerlalande I mean sure, but both are lazy, both can't back check, both have caused issues in the locker rooms of the respective teams they've been on (that's the rumor atleast).
I'd much rather they draft and develop than go out and possibly get a "problem"
Caufield was never that type of player. Many people make that mistake though 🤷🏻♂️
McCagg was talking about people want to ignore this year and only look at those 60 pt seasons I go one further even in those 60 pt years he was a minus 20+ each year.
The other guy brought up a VERY big point one that I also share and that is "winning" type hockey skil alone means nothing if your giving up more goals AND losing battles and or not playing well defensively something the habs do not need anymore of those type players.
You know who else was VERY skilled and did not pan out a guy the Habs traded to Colo >>>Drouin.
I love zegras SKILLS .. BUT NO DOG IN HIM ... HE IS JUST A RABBIT. I DONT GO TO WAR W A RABBIT 😂BALLERINAS ... R MADE 4 THE STAGE... NOT THE BATTLE FIELD😢
Some brutal takes here. Just as bad as grants takes on Tony’s show last night. Tony was literally about to pull his hair out when Grant was going on about Zegras. KK scored one OT goal in playoffs and Grant uaed it to justify taking him 3rd over Brady. Then argued that if Habs had taken Brady they wouldn’t have Slaf. These are some galaxy brain takes and honestly, also a little petty.
You know you don’t have to watch this channel huh ?!
Plenty of content out there
Because I don’t agree? I don’t live in an echo chamber. I love Grant’s reporting, I just happen to vehemently disagree with this take.
it was entertaining lol... Grant was pulling Tony's leg at times on purpose lol... Tony even liked it and concluded it was a great show lol
Grant McCagg is ignoring the reasons why he's doing what he's doing right now.
His ''I've read his Hockey DB'' analysis is on par with those 2 douchenozzles who called Slaf a bust.
Highlights are fun, but 60 points season aren’t elite. Especially when your bread and butter is based on skill alone.
Two 60 point seasons with 20+ goals all while under 22 is not something to ignore.
Even if Zegras is not my type of player ... i would offer J Barron ( to replace Drysdale and we have Reinbacher and Mailloux), a young talent like Kidney/Farrel/Bogdan... and a second pick... just to please the croud and have a Second power play and a 6th forward of talent ( goal scorers are tough to find)
But i doubt Anaheim will say yess... so forget it...
Rocco... i love what you bring ... the details... but this time i am not in love with your riser... i would say Grants riser will go 60 picks higher... your guy seems like a good fourth line guy...no key talent.
On my side... Nygard keeps growing on me
from the end of the first round he was months ago... he now is tied for 10th with Iginla and Helenius
just so strong for a talented 2 way guy...
worst case 3 rd line
but second is highly possible... i still hope the habs gets Lindstrom or DemiGod ( Demidov)
Lastly... i loved you talked about... should the habs get Zegras... would love to see your imput on going hard for Middlestadt, Erikson Ek... 25 to 27 years old great number 5 forward on our team ( under 6 millions)... my question to all is... who would be the perfect player in the nhl we should be agressive... tradewise... according to your evaluation of the player and the needs we ( habs) have
Go Recrutes go
Steph
Armia has more goals than zegras has points
Zegras has basically the same total career points as Armia but in less than half the games. Zegras has been injured 2/3 of the season so far.
and is soft as butter@@nc8507
First of all how could the Habs afford him and secondly we would have to likely lose anotehr first round pick which Hughes seems to enjoy giving away.
Uh this has got to be the dumbest comment I've seen about KH.
He traded one, only one pick for a player.
Grant got tunnel vision , he dont take in consideration the mental state of the player , is overall happiness ... he feel he is not wanted there so why sweat and blood for that team ? Zegras with is buddy Caufield and with Suzuki Slaf in the hand of MSL playing in montreal he will trive ....And he is 22.. at the same price of hte dach or newhook trade it will be a big mistake to not trade for him
Armia has more goals than zegras this year
Good point
Should we go for someone you think is weak mentally?
@@user-superf weak mentaly lol ... the kid is cocky , he got attitude and dont give a shit about the duck . that weak mentaly for you ? he is a high iq guy and if he start working sky is the limit he got to much skill
@@josephsegnor Mmm First you say bouhou poor baby is mentally affected... unhappy( weak type i read)
then you go full 180 and say he is brave and cocky...
both are negatives big time concerning Montreal...
for now i just see supertalent skills at times...who is not playing the game properly... yet...
and the habs team that is built is a mix of humility, self confidence and hard work ( Slaf Suz Cauf Dach Mathe...)
adding a potential rotten apple is dangerous... but hey... They know more then us... starting by Caufield...
why nobody congratulated Zegras when he scored that important goal... maybe he had the flu and thats why... who knows
Go Recrutes go
@@user-superf Matheson lol cannot make a pass to slaf like zegras teamates dont pass to him and he overated as fuck ... they should trade him asap while he still have good value . when Matheson arrive in montreal he had 0 value no he does buy low sell high ... i dont know if matheson was mentaly affected before he come to montreal ? if you realy hype over Hutson like i do Grant you should be talking about trading Matheson instead of building around him ... its weird Matheson have doesnt play much playoff games in is carreer or never pass the 1st round with lot of exit in 4 or 5 lol
Man Grant gets way too stubborn once he forms an opinion on a player. "He scores a highlight reel goal every 40 games and thats it" as he shows highlights from a terrible season Zegras is having where he's only even played 20 games. Maybe analyze the years where he had 60+ as a rookie and sophomore. Im not even sure Id want Zegras, but argue your point in good faith at least
I agree with you that this season is not the best to evaluate Zegras
but
I suggest you argue your point with the same soft touch Grant usually have ... not making personal attacks like... you are stubborn....
It felt you took his comment a bit personnally... lol
No matter... i agree with you that he is prob a 70 points guy in the future
but with a minus 25 lol
Go Recrutes go
Steph
Saying someone is being stubborn is a personal attack now...alright. Learn something new every day. If you're cherry picking data to prove your point I am not sure what word would be more applicable and less offensive@@user-superf