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Embracer Groups never understood the video game industry...
I like that Embracer Group was quite literally what a ton of fanboys thought Microsoft was going to do when they bought ABK, except EG got a pass because they weren't Microsoft.
@@onhold1706lmao right? Where were the regulators when Embracer was buying everything? They've actually harmed the industry and employees with their purchases.
What's weird is embracer has been in the industry a long time. They were Nordic games in 2011 and had full control of THQ way back in 2014 (they bscme THQ Nordic in 2016). They only became embracer in 2019 and those just over four years is when they went down the path of buying everything up and risky investments and I don't know why... They've been in the industry for a good bit of time (not the longest but it was at least 8 years since they were first Nordic games). And even without being in the industry any basic business class will teach you why not to grow too fast. Instead they flew too close to the sun and decided to pop a few massive blimps on the way down so they crash onto all of us.
@@vullord666 Is not a lot of time less then 15 years and also you wrote something correct: they went down the path of buying everything up and risky investments.
Hope that they found a way to go back in business properly
Deus Ex were honestly some of my favorite games ever made.
Deus Ex is better Cyberpunk for me.
@@1badblueboyFactos 👀👌
@@1badblueboyI enjoy them both, thought Deus Ex mankind divided is much better in implementing cybernetics than cyberpunk.
I'm guessing that once the dust has settled, the industry will revert more to how it was a couple gens back, and had pretty much always been up to that point. When the majority of games fell into that middle budget, or 'AA' range. Rather than almost everything being either 'Indie' or 'AAA' as it is now.
Games that had tighter budgets and more focused gameplay were better overall because they weren't trying to have something for everyone and could make due with less people buying the games because they weren't as expensive and thus build a dedicated fanbase.
Someone: people will buy game anyways no matter how shitty they are.
Embracer: sooo, more money for me right?
S: yes totally
E: after all this happned. Soooo..., wheres my money?
S:.....
E: huh?, where is it?
S: i.. i don't know
E: its fucking gone thsts what it is
Microsoft has a golden opportunity here to get in while it's ripe. Hopefully they can save some of these games!
Microsoft is part of the problem they should have stuck with WIndows....
They should save Deus Ex
@@unknownusrname they absolutely should, I would love to see that!
I would LOVE for them to save The Timesplitters Remake! Fingers Crossed 🤞🏿
@@wolfboy20 yes 100 with you!!!!!
Warhorse studios is a hidden gem, they about to release kingdom come deliverance 2
That ESG and subsidy money starting to dry up…sure would be a shame if those companies reap what they’ve sewn.
MS give more money to Blackrock/ESG than any other company, MS getting these IPs wouldn't be a good thing.
@@Spr1ggan87 Well then that's all the less profit they'll make & more money we'll have for other things
With them splitting, Microsoft buys at LEAST the Middle Earth group. I would not be surprised.
They should take Deus Ex as well and make a new one
If I were Microsoft I'd ABSOLUTELY not just buy Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal, I'd buy ALL of Middle-Earth and Friends and heck maybe even Coffee Stain and Friends too and I reckon the prices would be cheap enough to avoid most of if not all of the regulatory scrutiny that the ABK deal did.
Why so they can make 1 tomb raider that gets mix reception sells okish and never touch the ip ever again?
Not a good idea considering Microsoft is a woke company.
No microsoft should stay away. Don't you know their xbox DEI guidelines ? They'll destroy all franchises
Microsoft already rejected attractive female characters so…
@@silveraustinluna Man u so woke... u tired of the woke... lol... here have some egg yolks and take it back to your folks that are older than professor oak trees... w'/o a goatee
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I'm pins and I'm needles
Xbox comes in when a publisher is down and cheap. I see it happening
At some point, budgets for AAA games have to hit a peak. Honestly, how more expensive can they get before companies like Rockstar break the record again?
It almost seems like Embracer set aside the companies that MS/Xbox would want into their own entity for easy purchasing.
Yeah that's what I thought
I’d love for games to go back to being games first and graphically impressive second. I so much prefer the 8-bit, 16-bit indie games(shoutout to “UnMetal” if you haven’t played that game as a Metal Gear fan, you’re slippin lol) and 2D throwbacks that’ve been coming out.
Yep UnMetal is pretty great. I've also enjoyed Dead Cells and Stardew Valley a lot. I also enjoyed the demo for a throwback to 64bit Goldeneye that is called Agent 64: Spies Never Die, but have been waiting and waiting on news for when the full game will release (it has been a couple of years and I worry it was abandoned 😢 but at least the unreleased Goldeneye XBLA is out there and can be emulated, even on a Steam Deck)
Pretty good points and I agree although , any type of bit can be graphically impressive. In fact , I sometimes find 8 bit and 16 bit more graphically impressive due to artstyle and performance. Beautiful visuals, great performance, gameplay and several other traits are all important and the best indie games have all these traits in spades.
I just hope this leads to the death of the third person playable movies and we see a second indie renaissance. I want weird shit.
The problem with indie games is they tend to be one of three things... A walking simulator, A side scroller platformer, Some type of gardening game. And that seems to be it.
@@blickedxb Never played rust, vampire survivors, brotato, terraria?
@@b4rs629 And those games stand out because they're not one of the three I mentioned.
@@blickedxbit is insane you don't mention rogue like. Anyway there's a crap ton of indie games and even more AA. More than AAA. The only real thing holding indie back is that the industry as a whole still hasn't managed to stop being niche outside of mobile. The only titles that can breach the general populace are the longest running most well known which have trapped themselves trying to reach unattainable expectations each year. But now we're seeing console games start to trickle down natively to mobile (it's the dead cells and Hades and vampire survivors that are natively playable mobile). Meanwhile AAA games are struggling to reach that critical market and keep chasing those high built up standards from fans. So there's more focus on like cloud gaming but that adds yet another barrier to playing this games. I honestly think we'll see a very different future as time goes on.
MS would be able to snap these studios up on the cheap, along with the IP's most likely.. it would be pretty easy most likely because there wouldn't be too much regulatory garbage with individual studios. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Microsoft:
Yo, ya want money?
Sony: that's not fair, thats monopoly
Everyone else: could you just shut up about this nonsense
I so hope that MS will end up buying those studios, so we may have a new Deus Ex game. Adam Jensen deserves to have his story finished
Nobody needs triple A budgets for a fun game. They don't need to hire Alist actors and hollywood special effects to make a game fun. They just need a small team of passionate game devs.
Like I said. The Golden Age of Gaming died in 2013.
You're killing it, bro!
The Share holders always want the "eternal growth", when in reality no company have eternal growth, at some point it will reach a plateau, thats when they look for next arrow that goes up to move their greedy investment.
"If money is evil, then that building is hell" - Robert Doney Jr. in Wallstreet
Don’t forget Warhorse. Would be a great grab as well. They just announced the sequel to Kingdom Come Deliverence coming, allegedly, this year. Been pulling for those guys and hope this doesn’t disrupt their title. Didn’t realize they were under Embracer. Although with a dev like that XBox wouldn’t see a turnaround on another IP for a bit, but I would love to see what they can do with Microsoft money behind them.
Microsoft getting Eidos and their employees back to their jobs will be good not only for Deus Ex but for the industry as well.
sad for the people being layed of but after what embracer did to saints row as a fan of saints row especially two and three
good riddance
Unfortunately you have stupid gamers that consume products like idiots and don’t ask questions.
Don't feel bad, the devs were likely part of the problem.
My favorite game from thq Nordic is Titan Quest, and I'm so excited for their sequel!
Great video
I honestly Alex just want, Gunfire Games (inside THQ Nordic) and Eidos to leave. We are talking about 2 studios that deliver quality games, that have suffered only because they are poorly priced by embracer. From Deus Ex, Darksiders, Remnant, Guardians of the Galaxy and so many more, these 2 studios only suffer because they are delivering 50$ games at 70$ price point and we know how our steam community works.
Guardians of the Galaxy was criminally underrated. The problem is that it came out so close to that terrible Avengers game
I’ll say it I was so skeptical about anything of note happening but you know what I’m starting to believe. Its fascinating to watch 🍿
My Darksiders is in trouble 😢, at this point I probably will never get a 4th main entry.
I hope we get to see a new Deus Ex game. Mankind divided ended on a cliff hanger thanks to Square Enix greediness, and they canned the series and after Embracer fuck up I lost hope of seeing a new game in the series.
Double A and indie games for me. Been playing Withering Rooms. Having all the fun
What I want from Middle Earth and friends is I want a LOTR based CRPG especially if they could get it out in 2027 to coincide with The Hobbit’s 90th anniversary.
I don't think we're going to have a crash. But I do think companies are going to start pulling back on large projects that have three plus million dollar budgets.
I also see less innovation within the industry, meaning fewer new IPs. Gamers love to say they want new stuff. But obviously, they don't. Somehow at the game awards, every single game (aside from a couple which didn't win) that was nominated was an existing IP or a sequel. So companies will double down on pumping out sequels for existing game franchises instead of expanding into newer stuff.
Its like the deus ex trailer reference to icarus for the first game. Gaming is getting to close to the sun and is going to crash. It sucks but i agree with you alex that its probobly needed.
THQ Nordic makes MX vs ATV legends awesome racing game !
*Rubs hands together in evil intent* Finally! The crash!
In truth, it's a shame the employees will be affected by this if it does happen but it's better for the crash to happen sooner rather than later. Long time coming.
On a side note, I would love to see another GEX or a GEX Remastered collection if someone acquires Crystal Dynamics.
Yes, I would love to see another Tomb Rider game like “Rise of the Tomb Raider” which Crystal Dynamics had a big part in from Microsoft for PC and Xbox. That would be great.👍
Yo Alexx, I still don't have info on the Discord. Was I supposed to get an invite?
Sync your youtube account to discord, it should pop then. if not Dm me on twitter
Since when has LBP3 been massively popular?
They should definitely snag Coffee Stain it's already on PC and Xbox
I believe it's been rumored that Edios Montreal is already helping with Fable for Xbox so they already have a relationship which is good. Time for Microsoft to save both them & Crystal Dynamics.
I thought that was already confirmed, that Eidos Montreal was helping with Fable?
@@CaptainB1994 Yeah, I just wasn't sure if it was officially confirmed, Either way. Xbox needs to snap them up.
@@TheSwishPOP They should indeed.
Crystal is working on perfect dark as well.
Id like to see someone with some money and a need for more content to pick up warhorse studio and put some money behind KCD 2 the first one was great but definitely showed where they ran out of resources near the polish department at the end
How about revive Legacy of Kain
Tripwire getting caught up in this is just icing on the shit cake
My son loves goat simulator
"Save the day" ... like a hero? I think we should be cautious about seeing ANY acquisition this way. We should be cautious when it comes to wanting anything to be acquired, all your eggs in one basket, even if that basket is really good, is never the wisest move. We don't control these companies so it's always scary ... like you said "AS LONG AS" they stay pro consumer ... "AS LONG AS" . Yes Embracer's remains will be acquired by a worse company if no one makes a move - but it might be the best of two evils.
After the Activision Blizzard purchase, I don't think we'll see Microsoft buy any studios, anytime soon. That purchase hasn't panned out quite the way they planned, and there has to be a limit short term, you can't keep spending and not seeing much in return.
i Think so. Ms still in a crossroad. They arent going all in.
I agree. Many of their games are in development hell, includng the Perfect Dark sequel.
The problem is that even if i really like Deus ex, Xbox already have Perfect Dark in the pipeline, and Deus Ex is kinda similar to PD, actually they are very close when it comes to gameplay/lore, hitech gadgets, futuristic, spy/infiltration/shooter...
On X, I mentioned a few times in the past; that MSFT / Xbox should swoop in and acquire some studio's and IP's from the Embracer Group. I think, I specifically mentioned Crystal Dynamics as a example, and indeed Eidos. They have great IP's, Chrystal already have experience with working with Xbox if I'm not mistaken. So that could work out. It was surprising to me that 2K picked up the Borderlands studio. I don't mind that they did, so we are sure of more games that go multiplatform, but I did thought .. was Xbox sleeping ? The studio was 400 million, a buy for a company like MSFT / Xbox. Obviously I don't know if there where talks behind closed doors (or the FTC nagging was the reason, they take it easy), but Borderlands would have been a great addition to Xbox in my opinion, just like a Tomb Raider and other titles you (Alex) mentioned. Besides Embracer .. I think IO interactive would also fit Xbox. Same reason; great IP's (hitman, Kane & Lynch) and they are already working together (Perfect Dark Reboot). Although I don't know if Eidos holds some Hitman rights, but you could fix that by buying Eidos, and later take over IO Interactive as well.
I am a 36 year old GAMER and olay since I am 5. I watch News about gaming almost daily since forever. I really can not Tell you what the future will bring for gaming. The statistics show many indocations of alot more layoffs Happening this year- probably at embracer group roo. So maybe you are right Alex. Atleast in some sort and form its highly possible.
Very interessting who of the so knowned "big 3" will survive this the best?
-I think Nintendo will also have some layoffs but they are just to strong in their gaming space to really get any Problems out of this Topic.
-Sony I think will have a massive Hit of it and will change alot. They are allready showing less and less comittment to the gaming space in my apinion.
-Xbox as being hold through Microsoft has to much financial backing from Microsoft I guess to not survive. No Idea what is going to happen there though.
Sup Alex
I remember one time telling a friend to invest in Embracer (eh he asked for it). That probably went well.
I started to enjoy Japanese mmo, and free to play stuff more. Even tho I'm limited on these games on xbox. I enjoy them cause even if say f2p don't work out, I didn't have to waste money to try it. Witch brings me to say, more games need to do free trials (with no time limited) or demos again. Kinda hard to convince me to give up $70 plus for a game only to find it trash or some other BS is going on with it. I also admit, I hope to one day move to pc. So I'm not so limited on what I can try and enjoy.
I'd say 3rd crash. There was a creative crash in the late 00s when the yearly releases and remasters started hitting.
on the last point you said Alex , i agree with you but on my side i prefer slavic games in general . Playing games like Metro , Witcher , this War of Mine and especially Stalker just feels right for me , they arent walking simulators and the atmosphere is impecable on all these games . 3A gaming has become dumbed down and feels bland to me compared to just a couple years ago.
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I think gta 6 will be the beginning of the crash
I find it a bit charming your favourite series is Deus Ex. You look a lot like Adam Jensen.
A video game crash will happen just like in any industry. It's not a question of "If" it a question of "when"
Embacer being a failed attempt at a mega-conglomerate is ripe for purchase. In part splitting into 3 is them saying please, we are bite-size now.
Microsoft could look, Sony, Warner Bros, EA, Dreamhaven/Moonwell (esp if they could slice off a studio or 2). Mike would be nice because privately owned, he's awash in a stupid amount of money since MS bought Acti/Blizz so he got all his shares paid out so no investor pressure.
Yes I think we are already seeing the crash and I think it's about time there needs to be a pivot at this point to gameplay versus graphics, too much focus on realism not enough on having actual fun games to play.
First of all, the 1984 video crash was a pure local USA problem. We had none in Europe.
On the other hand you are right. We are standing short before a world wide video game crash this time. At least of the whole triple A industry complex, because these kind of games are now much too expensive to make.They have basically exact the same problems like the movie industry. The costs went out of control.
Bad story telling, boring mechanics and trying to enforce the message on us with the social engineering tries from Black Rock. They are now, because of all that, widely ignored by more and more Gamers, accelerating the high cost problem even further.
This explains also the success of games like Palworld and Helldiver 2. Gamers rather spend their money on these games, than any abomination like "Skull and Bones", "The Suicide Squad" or "Star Wars Outlaws."
Ngl someone needs to buy and smack some sense into Crystal Dynamics
True
I agree 100% on everything with you Alex. I think the Industry has reached a point of no return with the mount of money that it requires for AAA games. And also let's not forget the DEI and the whole Black Rock money for "Changing behaviours" agenda. As a Kojima fan I want to ask you this ? What do you think about Death Stranding ? is it worth it ?
Thank you.
I just need clarification on what the hell is gonna happen with Metro Tom Henderson told us they had the game almost complete
Too many fail safes in gaming now than the original game crash. One can only hope though...
I’m an Xbox fan but I think Sony should buy tomb raider because they did an amazing job creating the uncharted series. Only problem with Sony is they might make it exclusive. Microsoft already has too many game studios. But yeah I feel like if Microsoft wanted them they would have bought them already.
That's true what U saying this the time for Microsoft to grab those two studios. They already helping Xbox so go on to make them family Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal
I really hope Sony or Microsoft get the Metro studio. We need another Metro game.
I think that if Pikmin 3 took 9 years and Pikmin 4 took 10 then it’s not even worth it
I am worrid about FTC would go after Microsoft do to ABK. I think its a no brainer if Microsoft can. Go get eidos interactive.
Bring back DuseEX
Why would they, the price tag would be wayyyyyyyyyy smaller than ABK, plus the size of the potential acquisition in terms of size and IP's is way smaller?
That Middle Earth IP would also make the Nemesis System available to the rest of the game studios Xbox owns. *THAT* would be the thing I would want to see manifest the most. More games with that system in place.
Not quite since it's Warner Bros who patented the Nemesis System not Middle-Earth Enterprises.
The nemesis system is not exclusive to middle earth, it was an original system developed by monolith so WB owns it.
@@CaptainB1994
Ah... dammit.
@@CP-uw4ts
There goes that idea, then. 😒
@@BrotherKnowledge. lol. But seriously though IF Microsoft were to buy Middle-Earth Enterprises & Friends I see no reason why they couldn't negotiate a deal with WB to be able to use the Nemesis system in not just LotR games but other games as well.
Microsoft needs to buy Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal ASAP
Microsoft needs to *stop* buying up every company and turning the industry into a monopoly. We've all seen how EA and Activision treated the smaller studios they bought, they were forced to work on other games and eventually assimilated into the companies themselves. It's why I'm glad studios like ToysForBob became independent from Microsoft/Activision.
Let’s say another crash happens. What would the aftermath be? Because the problem back then was oversaturation of consoles, but now one big problem is oversaturation of publishers and games.
It kind of sounds like the industry wouldn’t crash, but many publishers would dissolve and a select few would rise from the ashes.
People keep talking about a big market crash but therell never be another one like before. Gaming is in such a different place and theres so many different tiers now.
I do think however there will be a massive culling of studios, publishers and major gaming companies in the next decade.
Companies will be forced to downsize and make titles for less...or die off.
This will also be the death kneel for alot of properties should some companies decide to take tjem to the grave and no one deem the rights worth the price.
yeah, I’m not expecting a repeat of the crash of ‘83 but I am expecting the Western AAA sector to have shit make the fan collapse once GTA VI fails to meet its absurdly lofty expectations.
@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 and we all know GTA6 is woke trash so it's gonna happen
MS spent 80 billion and thus far haven’t seen the growth to generate a ROI.
They have more overhead currently than we could even possibly imagine.
They laid off 1900 and probably got more coming. They likely aren’t in the check writing business ATM 🤔🤷♂️
All I want is MDK3
I think we all win when Embracer Group fails.
I think embracer bit off more than it could chew.
If Embracer wanted an Xbox buy out they should have embraced a Japanese studio, because that's what Xbox wants.
totally agree alex.. let the passionate devs make what they want on a lesser scale without bloat and political/ corpo control.. wasnt palworld made by like ten guys or something? my point is if they could do that, imagine what a million other small teams could do..
Microsoft should get gunfire games and thq Nordic darksiders is a good ip
Damn it will be glorious crush
Rock and Stone!
Tarsier Studios makes Little Nightmares 1 & 2. I love these two games. I believe Little Mightmares 3 is made by a different company due to embracer buying Tarsier.
Didn't even know Warhorse was part of this. Kingdom Come Deliverance is the best game I suck at.
Tarsier created the Littie Nightmares series, but didn't make the new third one cause they were bought by Embracer. Namco Bandai should buy them.
Ive been waiting for a second crash for 10 years now
"if microsoft decides to pick up these studios" but isn't embracer the one who decides IF they even want to sell?
Yep, it's coming....and so am I 😈🤣
Microsoft has the cash to swoop in, but we may not get exactly what we may be hoping for with that. They would be putting games on multiple platforms, they are a bit more hands off on projects, but they will absolutely push a narrative and agenda. Tomb raider would absolutely keep going the direction it is going.
I think the industry will start to pull back scope on games to control costs. We already see massive struggles to grow scope and push fidelity while having good performance and minimal bugs. Not every game needs to be a massive open world or have a deep endgame
Why do these companies think they can infinite profit?
Embracer group embraced the Ls.
Friends = consultant groups.
which the industry doesn't need (Looking at you SBI and "friends")
Friends + business = betrayal
I want warhorse to stay independent as someone who loved KCD one and hope KCD2 is good I wouldn't want a big company ruling over warhorse
Valheim is on gamepass still,I played it for a while with my nephew,he loved it
AAA is a pandora's box, once it came into existence it'll stay forever. 3/4th of the best selling games since the x360 era has been AAA games. Except the budgets are gettin' bigger.
Glad you got it all figured out for Microsoft. However, you can wish in one hand and shit in the other
If you look at the Middle Earth and friends group that Embracer made that group seems like it was designed by Xbox executives (and me) b3cause the division's brands and IP is basically made up of those parts that I believed MS would have gone after Embracer for prior to this restructuring. Now MS can buy it all one package (instead of just piecemeal buys from Embracer itself.) The Coffee Stain and its BFF division has as some interesting stuff, but a buyout Middle Earth would be a perfect strike move. I seriously think Embracer broke the company into this way for a MS buyout than anything. No matter what it signals to me they are setting up for acquisitions. Similar to how Sammy split off their video gaming to make it easier to buy Sega when the time comes rather than dealing with areas nobody (i.e. MS) would want like the betting end of Sammy or how EA split of into two divisions making it easier to sell off one or the other.
Only care about Wreckfest and Tomb Raider. Would be really happy if Microsoft picked up Bugbear and CD.