Excuse Me?! Roxy?! Psychologist Reacts to Mushoku Tensei Season 2 Episode 23

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  • @hhjan594
    @hhjan594 Před 15 dny +98

    Ed: "Roxy can be such a major agent of change if she positions herself correctly"
    Roxy:

    • @SUBHRA38
      @SUBHRA38 Před 13 dny +5

      She took that literally 💀

  • @humourlessjester3584
    @humourlessjester3584 Před 15 dny +46

    I support polygamy, because in this economy two incomes just ain't enough anymore.

  • @loblo5542
    @loblo5542 Před 15 dny +96

    Ed: Roxy, you can't back down. You have to push forward.
    Roxy:

    • @Ricardo_Rick
      @Ricardo_Rick Před 15 dny +21

      Ed: "Dammit Roxy, i said push forward, not inward"

  • @Jay-272
    @Jay-272 Před 15 dny +107

    Eris did not consent to any of this

    • @Theis_Ejsing
      @Theis_Ejsing Před 15 dny +26

      Grass and water. Rudy still needs to catch his fire type.

    • @WidgyAinz
      @WidgyAinz Před 15 dny +4

      Neither did Rudy lmao, she ain't say shit. This is what them 'hints' and riddles and crap get you.

    • @totheblue69
      @totheblue69 Před 13 dny +2

      ​@@Theis_Ejsing lol, Charizard?! 😂

    • @user-db2uj9vc7s
      @user-db2uj9vc7s Před 2 dny

      Imagine hitogami face

  • @hhjan594
    @hhjan594 Před 15 dny +42

    I like how Ed says Roxy you can't back down you have to push forward
    And then Roxy did more than he thought

  • @MatiFalsetta
    @MatiFalsetta Před 15 dny +20

    I love how Rudeus was able to go from seeing Roxy purely as an object of adoration, perfect and without any flaws at all. To realize that what he always felt for her was love, she was literally her first love and luckily, he was able to recognize that.

  • @kei6121
    @kei6121 Před 15 dny +25

    Every time he brings out Erinksen's development theory I'm reminded that I literally failed all my stages of development lol

  • @jonathanmerritt6514
    @jonathanmerritt6514 Před 15 dny +23

    Polygamy is the norm for that world. Polygamy used to be the norm for this world. Everything can be good or bad. Though, if can be actually hard to not project your current belief system on a story, as a viewer.

  • @lunarknight5994
    @lunarknight5994 Před 15 dny +4

    18:08 My favorite moment
    "In an appropriate manne-"

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi Před 14 dny +1

      "Roxy can be a major agent of change if she positions herself correctly."
      And that was Cowgirl.

  • @ErisianRomantic
    @ErisianRomantic Před 15 dny +17

    40:00 Wow. As an older dude, who still idolizes those times in my life where consent came mostly from non-verbal and assumed sources, Ed cleared up so many ways to describe it that I hadn't been able to. I see so much talk amongst the youngest of adults of "consent," in that every action MUST be vocalized and get a clear verbal response.
    That sounds like the most terrible timeline. I believe that it'll talking was required, Half of my romantic/sexual relationships could have never happened. Between my self-deprecation and with how I ended up attracting many shyer women, the second either of us stopped to rationalize IF we wanted to do what came next, someone would have flipped and thought of some imaginary reason why it just shouldn't be.
    One of the greatest joys of my life was when myself or a girl I was into made the move to go in for an unexpected kiss. Sure, there were times, on both sides, when it was a no-go, and that was that. However, when it was the right call, it would lead to greater heights and satisfied choices.

  • @crowely3034
    @crowely3034 Před 15 dny +2

    Elinalise trying to be a good friend, she knows it was Roxy's first time and how much shes hurting. She travled with Roxy the whole demon contenet looking for rudy, gets a wish from the Demon Empress - uses it to find rudy & family, then spends years helping his family
    So yeah id imagine Elinalise feels its unfair to Roxy that she misses out on happiness because she spent 30 episodes helping his family
    Another great conversation btw love the vid

  • @oxjmanxo
    @oxjmanxo Před 15 dny +4

    1:24:27 Rudy is handling this a lot more maturely than his dad. His dad fucked and dipped then kept it a secret until it was impossible to do so. Rudy is being open about his feelings and is going to be upfront with Sylphie and ask permission.

    • @fauziothman8592
      @fauziothman8592 Před 46 minutami

      while it wasnt in the anime, got a small details cut from the novel which is Elinalise lied to Rudeus that Roxy is pregnant when they were on the way home...thus solidifies Rudy's resolved to take Roxy as his wife and confronts Sylphie about it (as it reminds him of Lilia's pregnant situation if Lilia walk out the house while pregnant)

  • @thezja
    @thezja Před 15 dny +1

    Been waiting for this Ed. Great content and analysis as always!

  • @soup0075
    @soup0075 Před 15 dny +1

    Hey Ed, I've been watching your mushoku reactions since the start of the 2nd season. This show and these reactions combined have helped me realize my deep-rooted social issues. As crazy as this sounds I'm really grateful. PS. love your content!

  • @Okita-tu2zp
    @Okita-tu2zp Před 15 dny +2

    I freaking love you man your the goat of MT reactors and man hearing your explanation always put a smile on my face these hours of vids is always worth the watch ❤

  • @DreavyHinker
    @DreavyHinker Před 11 dny

    1:58:12 my prediction for Eris. She’ll have a tiny post credit scene the way Sylphy did at the end of season 1. I can imagine her ranting about how amazing Rudy is to some new friends we haven’t met yet, just like Sylphy did with Ariel and Luke.

  • @ErisianRomantic
    @ErisianRomantic Před 15 dny +12

    42:00 Condemning Rudi having sex to alleviate his pain here is like walking up to someone drinking at a wake and slapping a drink out of their hand.

  • @englishfury1544
    @englishfury1544 Před 15 dny +1

    Was planning to just watch more apothocary diaries reactions, but this dropped at the perfect time lol

  • @winter3666
    @winter3666 Před 15 dny +1

    Ngl I cried 3 times during this episode when it aired.
    Really made me think from the consent discussion and can't wait for the final episode, gonna tune in if I can

  • @teongreen5254
    @teongreen5254 Před 14 dny +1

    1:18:08
    Of course there wasnt room to get out of it. Roxy even admitted it that she took advantage of him while he was down. lol

  • @macready84
    @macready84 Před 15 dny +3

    No matter what camp you fall into concerning how you feel about this episode the great thing about the story is that there are just as many camps with the characters in the story when they find out about it.

  • @thomaswagner3934
    @thomaswagner3934 Před 15 dny +1

    Rudeus is so lucky in his second life. I hope I'm that lucky in my next life. Ever since I was a kid, I never got along with other people so I stayed to myself. I even kept distance from my own parents, to be fair they fought and I was constantly either being sent to foster homes or other family members. After my dad died 2 yrs ago, I realized he tried to make up for me having a bad childhood by showing me love, but I never showed him love. I've been a shut in since he died.

  • @Mr.Abreu.76
    @Mr.Abreu.76 Před 8 dny

    Elinalise basically said: Sylphie has been my granddaughter for 16 years, but Roxy has been my BFF for about 20 years

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny +1

    12/5/1901 the rat was born; then at an age greater than 1 he founded the Disney company at 10/16/1923.
    So hear me out its going to be Dec 5 or Oct 16 when the episode lands revealing the rat.
    How funny would that be Walt Disneys B day is the day the rat is explained.

  • @asakayosapro
    @asakayosapro Před 15 dny +3

    Quite the insightful analysis.

  • @thedabisme61
    @thedabisme61 Před 15 dny +3

    1:06:29 WIZARD STOP WIZARDING, YOURE SCARING ME WITH YOUR WIZARDARY

    • @ElyonDominus
      @ElyonDominus Před 14 dny +2

      Dude reads human psychology source code so much he doesn't even see the symbols on the screen anymore. He just sees our trauma laid bare.

    • @totheblue69
      @totheblue69 Před 13 dny

      Dammm, can't wait for the rat 😂

  • @EndlessDVoid
    @EndlessDVoid Před 15 dny +1

    OMG I was mentioned because of that Twitter post lol

  • @meganmartin3373
    @meganmartin3373 Před 15 dny +1

    DILLO GANG RISE UP
    One thing I'm looking forward to next season, that I haven't seen talked about anywhere, is "My Wife Has No Emotion", a romcom in which a lonely salaryman gets drunk one night and asks his cooking robot to be his wife. From what I recall of the manga, despite the claim of emotionlessness, the wife in question is one of the _smuggest_ characters I've ever seen, and I really can't wait to see how they attempt to convey this in animation.

  • @Sheamu5
    @Sheamu5 Před 15 dny

    New here, and enjoying your takes. I've read the LN a little past this arc, but I enjoyed how they did in in the anime, Roxy took the initiative, rather than being convinced to do it in the LN.

  • @gigglestomp5403
    @gigglestomp5403 Před 15 dny +1

    Elinalise Prepped Roxy - She says the only way to fix him is to get laid but they are months from home and he won't make it like this. Roxy suggests Einalise but she wont because Cliff. Lilia can't. Noone will. Roxy takes it into her own hands after she asks everyone. Elinalise didn't think she would actually do it, and was just kind of down in the dumps about how they were going to get him home to Sylphie.
    Afterwards - In that campfire chat Elinalise told Rudy that Roxy was *late* and was probably pregnant. In addition to all the other stuff she said. The late part is a lie that he doesn't learn is a lie until AFTER confronting Sylphie.

  • @porky1118
    @porky1118 Před 15 dny +1

    3:55 I cried a lot when my grandpa died when I was maybe 12.
    I think I was the person who dealt the worst with it from my family. I and my two younger brothers never lost a close person before. But they got over it very quickly. They didn't really realize the severity.
    My youngest borther was only 4, so of course he couldn't understand it. And my other brother was 9, and also was pretty stupid. He first thought, my mom was joking, when she told us.
    I was only lying around in bed for almost a whole week. And the week before wasn't much better. We visited the hospital everyday, but we weren't allowed to visit him in person. So I ate some ice and waited for my mom to come back.
    Since then I almost never felt sadness again. And I never cried again.
    At the funeral of my grand aunt, who visited us at every birthday, maybe 5 years later, I felt nothing. Everybody was crying, but I just couldn't understand them. They felt kind of stupid to me.
    That's how I realized that I probably lost my ability to feel sadness.
    Some years later after I finished school, I got depressed and sometimes cried without a reason, it helped me relax and then I felt better.
    But that didn't happen a lot.
    Only a few years ago I started crying again, but only when watching movies/anime.

    • @willyvereb
      @willyvereb Před 15 dny

      I am deeply sorry for what you struggle with. I'm at least glad you seem to be recovering from that trauma.It's a hard subject to approach and pardon my and the silent majority's awkwardness in this. I wish you continue to cry and laught with those you cherish!

    • @porky1118
      @porky1118 Před 15 dny +1

      @@willyvereb I don't struggle. It was more than a half life ago. It's just a random story of my life, no need to get emotional ;)

  • @fritz250757
    @fritz250757 Před 15 dny

    I expected your reaction because you're the realest you get it

  • @Stellascion
    @Stellascion Před 15 dny +1

    I feel like I’ve gotta point out that Sylphie DID say a couple times before this that she was okay with Rudy taking another wife so long as he introduces her before hand so she can approve or not.
    Gonna counter point myself though: Rudy did promise not to. So that shit probably gonna hurt her anyways.

  • @ScarTalon
    @ScarTalon Před 15 dny

    cant wait for next week. no way am I gonna be able to wait for the next season. I'll have to read it

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny

    Da da Dan is definitly one you should check out. the duet protags are just nuts... and there's Turbo Granny in it.

  • @hmmm..668
    @hmmm..668 Před 15 dny +1

    Never back down 😂😂😂

  • @gigglestomp5403
    @gigglestomp5403 Před 15 dny

    One thing I think we did not talk about is the lack of wine in that scene. I think this meant they wanted to show a parallel between Eris and Sylphie but not use it for sex in general.

  • @ivansoto9723
    @ivansoto9723 Před 15 dny

    25:33 Wow! This is a really useful chart.

  • @francisconavarro4251
    @francisconavarro4251 Před 15 dny

    Is the Rat something like “Your greatest enemy is you” kind of thing? because I have been seeing glimpse of multiple timelines (or more commonly as a multiverse) because that would be amazing.

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny

    Paused at 25:06.
    I agree with the big message.
    I have shared burdens only to feel more burden... I have tried to include others only for them to fail to understand... sometimes rawdogging it is easier.
    Now the reverse is true also. I am not being pessimistic only recognizing that no one thing is always true.
    My mom I cried immediately had a bunch of family and friends and I did the impossible and cried at her death, when I was genuinely concerned I was to stoic to cry.
    My Grandpa... well he died offscreen in a sus way... long story short it was out of his personality to kill his pet but he did as well as himself. He was a marine he should of resisted the void better than that. Mostly over his and mainly good with it. My Dad on the other hand Died on my Birthday Last year and I do not feel I cried for Bob yet properly; some tears with his friends that were with me at the time and had informed me. My old kitten... yeah she had a good wake Played some good songs to send her off with but she died in my hands basically over the case of one day... not really over it but I do not feel it can be better.

  • @ErisianRomantic
    @ErisianRomantic Před 15 dny +5

    49:05 It was Roxy's first time, and Rudi felt terrible the next morning, and the rest of his life, for tearing into her. He was nearly as vicious with Roxy as he was with Sylphy, while on drugs.

  • @sondryal9922
    @sondryal9922 Před 15 dny +2

    2 hours of good content

  • @SwiddyDiddy
    @SwiddyDiddy Před 15 dny

    Whoever you are in chat "saltyterra"
    23:51 you made me bust an absolute gut laughing lmfao

  • @Blackheart.735
    @Blackheart.735 Před 15 dny

    I wish we could see summertime render its amazing but underrated

  • @kaleokamekona2250
    @kaleokamekona2250 Před 15 dny

    I’ve seen this how many times and it still breaks me seeing Roxy like that 🥺😭

  • @maverick9708
    @maverick9708 Před 15 dny

    FUN FACT: the title of one of the upcoming chapters is "Carnage"

  • @WidgyAinz
    @WidgyAinz Před 15 dny

    1:28:24 "Don't let the MAN(god) hold you down! Cheat on your wife. Just DO IT."

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny

    People be forgetting that Sylphie already said yes indirectly couple episodes back.

    • @blazenitrozeus5721
      @blazenitrozeus5721 Před 15 dny +1

      Nah she said rudy can take a concubine if he really want a baby because of her race they have now a baby and rudy did it with another women without sylphie agree to it and even beford theywhere together she was worry that rudy do what paul did💀love this show but rudy and roxy better suffer next season and die 🙏🏾🗣

    • @far4955
      @far4955 Před 15 dny

      @@blazenitrozeus5721 the feeling is mutual

  • @Ricardo_Rick
    @Ricardo_Rick Před 15 dny +3

    01:45:25 glad you liked my comment there, i immediately thought about you when seeing the meme XD
    About this ep: I thought the ep was very good, they screwed up, both Roxy and Rudy, they know that, but it's also a fact they love each other, they know they made a mistake of doing it before Sylphy knew and they will wait to see if she approves before becoming a couple, and that was it, right?
    I felt bad seeing Roxy in that state, knowing she messed up and having the person she fell in love be an "Impossible love" for her, fortunatelly the GOAT Elinalise helped, for real, i really grew to love Elinalise as a character, i love her true friendship with Rudy

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny

    I believe in the LN positions and styles are mentioned but the body parts and actions are not.

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny

    one counter argument to "if your putting it in there" is to keep it simple stupid method of telling things.
    For example I once saw my mom in the middle of some act. Its true I did... but its also true that even at that time it did not fully register as my brain did auto censoring to protect myself. I remember boobs and that's about it.
    I remember the time me and my cousin were camping out at my Dads spot near the border of Oregen and Washington called Diamond Peak. We went on a walk. My half wolf half Newfoundland Pup Sneakers was going alongside us. No leash or anything. It had been a good amount of time and we decided to return to camp. Along the way we heard a howl... thinking it was Sneakers we howled back imitating them. It was about the time we had done this a second or third time that we saw Sneakers step out the trees near us and it hit us... we had been summoning wolves. We booked it the last bit back to camp; I do not remember seeing any of the wolves.
    I trust certain memory and not others as I remember details so I feel sure about it.

  • @nhpkm1
    @nhpkm1 Před 15 dny

    Am anime only. I think the rat is zenith, she was in the crystal controlling the monsters here brain is a dungeon guardian now. but out side of the Labyrinth th guardian does nothing until it makes a new connection controlling monsters and guiding them towards them.
    Rudy: how do the monsters always know our location?
    Lilith: there must be a rat

  • @Crazael
    @Crazael Před 15 dny

    5:50 No one tells me that I shouldn't cry, but I still avoid it a lot of the time because of how uncomfortable it makes me to lose control of myself like that.
    1:22:43 I personally have no problem with the idea, and I think that if you can make it work, great, but it's just not for me. I am too prone to jealousy to tolerate it.

  • @solsticeo
    @solsticeo Před 15 dny +1

    1:32:02 not for the reason you think lol

  • @shkmru2
    @shkmru2 Před 15 dny

    My sister was murdered literally this month, Saturday night, waking up to this I was in shock, disbelief heard my brother saying sorry, it took me a while for it to sink in, not only this but when I saw reaudues dad die, I fucking ugly cried so hard and yelled in agony, only because I know that exact feeling, I'm still in shock In a way trying ti distract myself,but I hate the dude who did this just acting like he did nothing wrong, my arms and hand do get numb as I hyperventilate

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny

    Paused at 1:06:58.
    Best doggo is here.

  • @hex7003
    @hex7003 Před 15 dny +3

    PeakTensei🔥🔥

  • @solsticeo
    @solsticeo Před 15 dny

    1:51:41 with all this rat hype, it really easy to get disappointed when it actually happen, like some certain goat in overlord
    But im quite sure it won't

  • @porky1118
    @porky1118 Před 15 dny

    6:03 I think the main reason that adults don't want children to cry is because it's annoying. And sometimes they came up with better reasons and children believed it and told it their children.

    • @willyvereb
      @willyvereb Před 15 dny

      In context with what you shared about you, this makes me even sadder. True for the most part but sad.

  • @jcval87
    @jcval87 Před 13 dny

    Good video❤🤗

  • @SUBHRA38
    @SUBHRA38 Před 13 dny

    I can't understand the name of the guy ED talks with towards the end.....if you know can you guys please give me his youtube channel name?

  • @shkmru2
    @shkmru2 Před 15 dny

    I didn't eat after my sister's death after a while I had too but honestly your just so messed up you can't feel hungry just grieve

  • @pizzapicante27
    @pizzapicante27 Před 15 dny

    Turns out, Roxy was the groomer all along

  • @user-ws4lv5br7c
    @user-ws4lv5br7c Před 15 dny

    Shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny

    If in IRL Roxy is going to jail still right?

  • @ErisianRomantic
    @ErisianRomantic Před 15 dny +22

    See, Ed is a PERFECT example why I wish the studio hadn't cut nearly all of the exposition for why what happened in this episode happened.
    No chat with Geese, Elinalise, and Roxy about how sex tends to help a man turn back to like.
    Showing Roxy as the aggressor when it was actually Rudi who took the final initiative and took her.
    No story about a man from another world who locked himself away.....
    And, worst of all, they don't show how Rusi took Armadillo Buddy home as a Greyrat pet!!!
    1:13:41 Oh, and the anime doesn't show what Elinalise "tells" Rudeus. Manz the cut content really disappointed this episode.

    • @xZeralf
      @xZeralf Před 15 dny

      You took the exact words out of my mouth! I was really looking forward to this episode and, frankly, got incredibly disappointed. (Especially at the fact that we didn't get to actually see Dillo clearly)

    • @wisefelipe
      @wisefelipe Před 15 dny

      I'm sorry if I'm being mean, but you sound like the kind of guy who would piss on the sink if there isn't a sign saying "please piss on the toilet". It is all in the episode.

    • @fritz250757
      @fritz250757 Před 15 dny +1

      honestly I don't mind most of the changes apart from the fact that they should definitely keep in the conversation on the bar for more context and build up
      that start was way too rushed,
      I don't mind changing the dynamic in the sex scene honestly
      the real problem here is more context and pacing..more focus on Rudeus..like this could have been fixed even in a cheap way just by changing the script a little
      in the conversation with Roxy letting know how much time passed and how serious the situation was
      He was literally gonna die
      Thankfully some anime only(like myself) got it because we don't jump the gun..
      This is literally probably the best reaction of the ep on yt so far not gonna lie

    • @caliithildae8500
      @caliithildae8500 Před 15 dny +1

      I'm hoping that story about the man from another world will be moved to the next episode, and he'll be telling it to both Sylphie and Roxy. As for what Lise tells Rudy, I'm kind of glad they changed that as it would take away a bit on why Rudy is asking her to marry him. The rest of the changes I don't really mind, would have been nice to see the bar scene, but it would have likely been 4 minutes or more, and I'm not sure what they could have cut to make room for it.

  • @MrArrmageddon
    @MrArrmageddon Před 15 dny

    I don't know what the "rat" is!? Don't worry I'm not going to spoil but at the same time this comment is not for ED regardless of spoilers. I thought I knew what this community was memeing? But now I'm unsure? I've read the entire LN. I thought the "Rat" was referring to one of two possible things if not both or maybe more? I don't know how to word this as I have no intention of spoiling anything but I'm hoping this community can answer my question in a vague way! But I have no idea how to ask this or get answered subtlely?
    Okay I 'm going to ask this in the least fishy or spoiler way possible and I only really want like a yes or no kind of response. ED stop reading even though if I do this properly this should mean virtually nothing to you anyhow. Is the "rat" situation or thing or event A) Have to do with the color purple? And no I'm not describing a person. And B) Does it also refer to something else almost completely unrelated but involves a man riding/sitting on another mans shoulders/back? lol
    If ED can figure that out that he deserves to spoiled for being a super genuine. Kidding! But no seriously this is not for ED. Finally the "rat" event or thing has nothing to do with Rudy and Roxy sleeping together in this episode it's not related to polygamy right? Unless there are MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE rat events. Like his name is Greyrat.... So like the rat event is also Rudy sleeping with Roxy etc. So I can see this being a trolly meme were we try to fit the code word Rat into various events to come etc. lol Maybe you can see why I'm confused.

    • @accidie_
      @accidie_ Před 15 dny +2

      SPOILER:
      The rat obviously relates to a cat, a cat relates to stones, and stones relate to balls where trauma is stored
      In other words, TP4

  • @ErisianRomantic
    @ErisianRomantic Před 15 dny

    54:47 ALL of this sounded so damn awesome, I'm going to join the Duscord right now, finally. There is SO damn much good sounding content!!!

  • @TheRealMango.
    @TheRealMango. Před 4 dny

    I assume this is a stream and i understand theres a break down in things, but turning a 40 min max reaction into 2 hours for a youtube vid is a bit much for my blood. Im here for it and all just understand much of the talks were skipped. Myself and other people cant really sit here for 2 hours for a 22 minute episode. Nonetheless much love for what you do.

  • @fritz250757
    @fritz250757 Před 15 dny

    and after finishing the video I gotta say..yeah omg you're so goated
    this makes up for all the shit I've been through in discussion the past few days
    1:37:24 And thank you

  • @porky1118
    @porky1118 Před 15 dny +1

    1:12:10 Somebody has to impersonate mangod on twitter and actually rant about how he hates what happened in this episode :)

  • @andrepita4067
    @andrepita4067 Před 15 dny

    This comments are so funny 😂😂

  • @algarcia3729
    @algarcia3729 Před 13 dny +1

    Sadly the author confessed than he was forced to make changes to make more "acceptable".
    They cut the part when Geese and Elinalise talk in a bar about make feel better to Rudeus, Roxy even don't understand at first. So the idea to Roxy pushing Rudeus doesn't make sense at all, it's something than Roxy will have never do, and it goes agains the character.
    In the novel after Roxy hugged Rudeus, she tries to take distance but Rudeus stops her. He felt calm when he heard the Roxy's hearts beats and her smell, then he pull to her.
    Then Roxy make the proposal to do it, obviously Rudeus is stupid so he doesn't understand at first. Roxy says that she heard from Elinalise about that, she was babbling nonsense after that.
    Roxy even tries to leave the room but Rudeus take her word and push her. All was more about emotions in that moment, all Rudeus' frustration. He let it out in poor Roxy, he was too rought, probably she probably had bruises.
    Obviously I didn't expect they animated Rudeus technically r@p¡ng Roxy to feel better but they changed Roxy's actions to something than she wouldn't do, worst episode adapted so far. They tried to blame Roxy for all to protect Rudeus of more controversy, that was cheap, Roxy even didn't get a good time, it really must have been sucks for her, it was her first time but she endured the pain, and she knew than probably she would be hated. She deserved better.

    • @algarcia3729
      @algarcia3729 Před 13 dny

      @@hmmm..668 The problem is Roxy's actions in anime, she wouldn't do such thing to go straight to fuck Rudeus knowing that he is married. In novel she only gets the idea when Rudeus puts her in him lap, in the moment, and even she wasn't sure about it.

    • @algarcia3729
      @algarcia3729 Před 13 dny +1

      @@hmmm..668 One Mushoku Tensei's pillar are their characters, we know they and we know why they do what they do. Then, a social awkward just like Roxy doing that, that's go against the established for the character. Specially because she always makes an involuntary mistake.

    • @hmmm..668
      @hmmm..668 Před 12 dny

      @@algarcia3729 the scene after the sex, when they meet elinalise, what elinalise says already contextualised Roxy's action . I learned about this anime is everything that is said has a hidden context behind it, and every scene has a purpose to be there, either to build the world, character and the plot. It's as easy as that

    • @algarcia3729
      @algarcia3729 Před 12 dny

      @@hmmm..668 No, what Elinalise says only implies than they skip the bar scene, no about Roxy being aggressive, because that was out of nowhere, nothing to do with timid and metodict Roxy. It's like Zenith became in a serial killer, out of nowhere, it doesn't work for the character.
      Staff only changed for fear to controversy, that's all.

  • @kuromiyaikeda3116
    @kuromiyaikeda3116 Před 15 dny

    Hey I made that meme 01:45:13 am I famous now?!

  • @ErisianRomantic
    @ErisianRomantic Před 15 dny

    21:28 Instead of "I understand what you're going through." I find "I can't know just how you are feeling right now, but I feel as though I could relate. I'd like it if you shared with me what you're thinking now." to best most likely to get a positive response.

  • @maverickvgc4220
    @maverickvgc4220 Před 15 dny +8

    Well, looks like we are back at Volume 7 level of adaptation.
    This episode should have been at least 1.5 but for a good job they should have been 2

    • @anotherchannel133
      @anotherchannel133 Před 15 dny +6

      I think they did well. I like the changes. Honestly, the only issue was that they didn't make it clear enough how desperate Roxy felt at that moment. They didn't show us enough how much time had passed. But apart from that, considering that they only had 2 episodes to finish the season, I think they did a good job.

    • @D1i1s1
      @D1i1s1 Před 15 dny +3

      @@anotherchannel133 Well the fact that Rudeus has become that gaunt in between last episode and this episode should make it pretty obvious that days if not weeks have gone by without Rudeus not eating properly, it isn't told to the viewer, it's simply visual story telling, telling us the information that days of him not taking care of himself have gone by in a single image.
      In the novel it's been about a week since they got back when they have the discussion in the Bar were Geese brings up sex, Rudeus himself doesn't know how long it's been when Roxy comes to his room but he questions how many days it has been not how many weeks.

    • @Jakokokoroko
      @Jakokokoroko Před 15 dny +3

      @@D1i1s1 To be very nitpicky/pedantic... "weeks" aren't a concept in the world of Mushoku Tensei. Iirc the second LN volume tells us that Rudy made up the concept of a "weekend" by having Eris get free time every 7 days or something like that. Since Rudy has already been in this world for 16+ years it's very possible that he doesn't think in "weeks" anymore. I forgot if they have months though and if they have the same amount of months/days as we have in a year - I don't know from memory atm.
      Long story short: Just because Rudy questions how many days it's been doesn't mean that he couldn't have rotted away in his room for 2 weeks+.

    • @D1i1s1
      @D1i1s1 Před 15 dny +1

      @@Jakokokoroko In other words Rudeus knows the concept of weeks and it's a matter of fact that weeks are frequently used as a measurement of time in MT (even in this very situation), even if the people in the world don't have that concept.
      Even if making the consession that Rudeus wouldn't think about weeks, it changes nothing about there being no indication anywhere in the novel of even more than one week, much less multiple weeks or a month having passed since they got back.
      The only indication for how much time has passed is the group meeting when Rudeus has been in his room for nearly a week and Rudeus wondering how many days it's been.

    • @Jakokokoroko
      @Jakokokoroko Před 15 dny +1

      @@D1i1s1 True, but I think easily another week could have passed before Roxy finally made up her mind to go in there and console Rudeus after she saw that he just can't pull himself up alone after all. It's left vague on purpose imo but assuming he at least drinks water to stay alive I feel like he looks way too malnourished for rotting away for "just" a week without or with barely any food.
      A quick google search also tells me that symptoms like moderate to severe cheek sinking occur over the course of several weeks of severe caloric deficit with a range of 2-3 weeks. 1 week just seems like way too little for how bad he was doing physically. Some sources even say it takes some people months of severe caloric deficit for their cheeks to sink in since the body initially uses glycogen stores, then breaks down fat and muscles and only after that, in the later stages, starts to visibly take from facial features etc. Of course, every person's body composition is unique though.

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny +1

    But is it not true that nonverbal cues are easily misidentified...?
    Because in my case I do not get it. I get verbal cues better and yet your trying to use your interpretation as everyone's right... doesn't that ignore people normal does not apply to but have equally valid rights?
    It just does not sit well that someone could be misunderstood but live with a family on the way despite having never actually wanting it.
    Holding hands should not be a lead toward sex... something with irreversible consequences like sex is.
    Kissing back I accept but his not fighting her I just saw as his deppression robing him of actual being able to understand whats going on enough to allow choice.
    I do see it as Roxy forcing herself on him but note the dread R word. More so borderline SA.
    I know and we know from Rudy that he wants it normally, so a pass from the start.

  • @lukestarkiller441
    @lukestarkiller441 Před 15 dny +2

    If this was between Eris & Roxy, I could see the dilemma with Rudy.
    I can see Eris being pissed. But since it's Sylphie, I don't feel any tension. It's honestly one of the reasons I don't like how she is written. Sylphie has done nothing but give Rudy everything he wants. To the point where her most defining characteristic is being his wife.
    I'll be shocked if she refuses his relationship with Roxy.

  • @ErisianRomantic
    @ErisianRomantic Před 15 dny

    1:22:14 As a polyamourous person, I get to see so lottle of this in media. That's one of the reasons I adore 100 Girlfriends!

  • @Xantheus07
    @Xantheus07 Před 15 dny

    Yeah trust me no one wants Oldeus.

  • @kerbecshades2412
    @kerbecshades2412 Před 15 dny

    My biggest let down in this episode is Rudy's inner thoughts about how he wasn't Paul's son but Paul was his father he went so deep into that that it broke me when I read that and Rudy getting gas lit into thinking Roxy is pregnant just to push him to ask Roxy to marriage there was so much small almost insignificant things in the moment but are so big to understanding how much Rudy has grown and changed also it would be devious to end this season with the rat or with a tease of eris doing her thing

  • @Tounushi
    @Tounushi Před 14 dny

    50:50 unfortunately some people conflate not giving consent to the consequences with not giving consent to the act itself. It's a very vile way of trying to escape responsibility.

  • @Drakno2
    @Drakno2 Před 15 dny +1

    This whole segment had so much skipped content that you should really read the chapter to see all of the removed stuff cause the novel version is way better

  • @kodytiffany5686
    @kodytiffany5686 Před 15 dny

    Not actually disagreeing with you but wanting a better understanding of the picture here.
    Is not the fact he is so grief striken in itself grounds to consider Rudy "unaware" of events... locked in his own mind and just puppet mode?
    I mean he seemed like agreeing to anything was just his vibe... vulnerable in that way.
    In otherwords is she not an adult with a minor due to his mental age possibly dropping from grief? Imean Roxy is Rudys total age from both lives added together.
    She is robbing the cradle and a cougar on the prowl.

  • @istoOi
    @istoOi Před 15 dny +1

    Mushoku Tensei is about growth not pedos!
    Meanwhile the 50 y/o forces herself on a "16" y/o depressed minor ^^
    but it's OK since they're both technically 50 y/o

    • @casaruto
      @casaruto Před 15 dny +1

      And what is the point?

    • @istoOi
      @istoOi Před 15 dny

      @@casaruto no point. just enjoying the show and taking a stab at it

  • @oneofmanyidiots
    @oneofmanyidiots Před 15 dny

    ...Sorry, did someone mention sangry ex?

  • @Braiam
    @Braiam Před 15 dny +3

    Ed: Roxy can be such a major agent of change if she positions herself correctly
    Roxy: