Is Super Paper Mario Actually Good? | A Paper Paradigm Shift
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2020
- In between Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door's massive acclaim, and Sticker Star's massive criticism, another adventure released on the Wii that ended up acting like a midway point between a major shift in the series. Let's talk about Super Paper Mario!
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"Bowser is a tank. Great for bosses. Still, no point to play him."
Bowser's arms aside, he has the best dialogue, even with Chunks.
G A L A C T I C B O W S E R ‘ S A R M S
“Huuuuurgh! My brain hurts! I can’t keep up with plot points this complicated!”
Everyone else: *tries to effectively balance themselves*
Bowser's arms: BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET IT RIP
i love super paper mario i have played it so many times and i have lot of nostalgia for this game because it was one of the first video games i ever played
He says that? Bowser is really good when combined with various pixls
I can forgive the lack of Bowser’s arms being mentioned cause he said “Sticker Star is bad” as the finale to the whole month.
Holy shit its you
uh Has he figured out Luigi Is Mr L Yet?
lmao
P E R I O D , S I S
BOWSER’S ARMS!!!!!!!! THE SPINNIEST ARMS IN THE GALAXY!!!!!!!!!! By X-Nauts!
there actually is at least ONE reason to play as other characters: they have unique dialogue for cutscenes, while mario is a silent protagonist.
and they also are important for puzzles
Plus if you like playing one of the characters and don't mind switching for puzzles only, you can do that too.
@@thecrazedpotatoman it also felt fast enough to switch and do a puzzle and not really notice you had to switch
Yeah, one of the reasons why I replay so much is to see how the dialogue differenciates depending on who you are controlling at the time.
While this is nothing new, in the previous games the partners did the talking and the other characters didn't usually directly address them, in SPM however, most of the NPC dialogue changes depending on who you have out, which is unique attention to detail.
@Charlotte Banister
I don't think Tippi's dialogue is bad per se, but I prefer to see Peach or Bowser commenting on the scene with their unique dialogue rather than have someone do the talking for Mario.
It really bothers me that we never learn Mr. L's secret identity. He just dies and he's never heard from again
LOL
Yeah man, the theories that he's luigi are soo fake we all know he's bowser's lost child
It said that dimentio controlled media L at the end for the final boss
Yeah smh maybe his name was linguini idk
Of course he’s Luigi.
It bothers me that Mr. L isn’t a Luigi skin in Smash
indeed
Why would Mr. L be a skin for a character that he has nothing to do with? He should be his own character
You could say that to Galacta Knight too, but he's a Meta Knight skin, so yeah since Piranha Plant got a TTYD reference in it's moveset, Mr L needs to be Luigi's skin in the game.
*Cries in Gooigi*
Y’all need to go play Project M then. They have Mr. L as a costume for Luigi (even though they look nothing alike what a weird move) along with team color versions. It’s super sick.
I’m surprised you neglected probably the best joke in any game ever: the fact that you can die BEFORE YOU EVEN CONTROL YOUR CHARACTER
When does that happen? I haven’t played the game in years.
@@jamieyakimets839 one of the dialogue choices
@@jamieyakimets839 If you refuse to receive the first Pure Heart from Merlon several times, you're awarded a game over before you can even control Mario
@@melodicevui and because the game hasn't saved, the file says "back to the start!" When you fail there any you get to sit through the entire intro cutscene again
I remember this. I did this. I found every way to die in this game. You can do it in origami king too
Also fun fact: apparently a lot of the characters in SPM are “blocky“ and geometrical in reference to computers and digital stuff in general. That’s also why Mario‘s turn-3D-ability, when used, looks like someone selecting multiple files on a windows desktop with the mouse. So basically the design “theme“ is analog (paper) vs digital (computer stuff).
I also figured they were blocky because in mathematics, dimensions are represented most typically in square, cubed, or tessarect (hope I spelled it right) form
When entering a chapter for the first time, the scenery is drawn like you would draw on a computer. I really like this.
as a teenager learning computer science at school, I've grown to appreciate this game so much more now that I have context for so much of the game's apparent weirdness
ohh so Paper Mario in the Tech World i guess that makes sense
Never knew that…my mind is blown🤯
Ant: "Is Super Paper Mario actually good?"
Me: "Always has been..."
Star Toons Always will be
forever and always
Yes Yes YEs YES
Indeed
Super Paper Mario is my favorite game. No one can change that.
9:47 I wholeheartedly disagree. I play as Bowser as often as I can because I never know quite when a story segment will happen, and Bowser just provides the funniest dialogue in the group when one does.
"Hey O'Fatty! Take it easy! You're gonna blow out your beard, pal, seriously." i love the interactions between bowser and o chunks
Also bowsers arms are amazing
Same, bowser is amazing in the paper Mario games
I always play as peach because of "the invisible umbrella"
Bowser may have the best dialogue but don’t miss out on Peach’s, the sass on display is too much to bear.
I LOVED how unabashedly freaky some of these designs were. Especially spider Mimi and the Jawbus.
To add on to that, Bonechill is a reference to the 12th Circle of Hell with Satan in the middle covered in ice.
@@mantarariana64 Oddly enough Bonechill was one of very few designs I liked. The rest were like they didn't even try.
Good old Mimi the mini virus
Mimi scared the shit out of me when I was a kid
It took me literal decades to realize that she's called Mimi because she can "Mimic" other people.
I cannot express to you how proud my 8 y/o self was when I guessed that Dimentio was the real villain in the story by his first appearance
just because i'm non binary doesn't mean i'm gender neutral i'm actually gender evil
-dimentio
It is also true that you could not have saved the world without him though
The only complaint I have about this game is that we never find out who Mr. L is. He gets killed off in Chapter 6 and then Dimentio mistakes Luigi for him in Chapter 8.
I bet they had a connection between the two planned, like Mr. L use to be Luigi's room mate (as shown in some concept art) but it just got left on the cutting room floor.
Fun fact: super paper mario only has one toad in the whole game
Fun Fact: You never go to the Mushroom Kingdom in Super Paper Mario. Not even once.
Ayy tru
Super paper mario's toad population ratio: 0,0000001%
Paper mario sticker star's toad population ratio: 1000000000000000000000%
I guess Miyamoto had to improvise
I'm surprised the jaded and cynical Paper Mario fans don't call SPM the best game in the series purely because of that
Wait isn’t it kinda weird that we never seen Mr.L and Luigi at the same time?Nah it probably noting.
I don't think you ever see Mr. L and Merlee at the same time, actually ...
For a second I thought Luigi and Mr. L were the SAME person! I know it's just a crazy thought, I should shut up...
Luigi? Who is Luigi? Are you perhaps speaking of Green Mario? Mr. L is certainly his own original character and totally not a rip-off of another.
@@cloroxhammer3289 Who's Mario? Do you mean red luigi? Why did Nintendo even bother to add him?
Lest?...
Just got done playing Thousand Year Door. Final thoughts:
"Needs more hell."
Sees spm: perfect
@@therainbowmarioman8461 Tbh, I think that part in Super tries to represent the purgatory
@@mrjohnful no, it's the Greek mythology version of hell. Hades/Jaydes, River Twygz, etc.
I feel like the last two paper mario tried to make us feel for the partners (the sticker and huey) the same you feel with tippi. But not at all, tippi was such a good character with and interesting backstory.
tippi's backstory is good but as a character she's pretty nothing
@The Good Demon to be honest she felt rather... bland, i could at least identify a personality in kersti (even if it wasn't a good one), huey and olivia. She comes across as your typical mysterious character, and the only reason i do remember her is because no other character in the series is similar to her
I think Tippi's biggest flaw is in her design. She isn't very emotive and she isn't really meant to be a comedic character. So there are times where she can feel bland. But her character really starts shining from when you rescue her in chapter 3 and after chapter 6, as she slowly regains her memories and is more open to the gang.
@@johntastisk4200 I agree with you! She actually has personality and actually some funny moments even though she isn't comedy relate (I will never forget how she always roasted some of the enemies xD) But yeah, her design isn't expressive with makes her unemotive especially compared to the other partners in the other Paper Mario games.
It’s called SHES A FUCKING BUTTERFLY
That OST man. So many themes I always go back to, not just for nostalgia or for it actually being jams (which they absolutely are), but because of the genuine emotions a lot of a the music was able to bring out, even listening to it outside the games context.
Try finding the puzzle with my comment and yours 🔝
I literally get emotional and cry over some of the songs...
The final boss theme, “The Ultimate Show”, is one of my favorite songs period. Not only is the title good (show and not showdown), and not only is the song a remix of Dimentio’s and Mr. L’s theme, but it also SLAPS HARD, MAN!
@The Good Demon just why I cringed so hard!?!?
Just don't listen to River Styx before you go to bed
I wish they made another game like this so they could perfect everything and give it a more consistent formula
A platform RPG would more refined mechanics would be awesome, IMO that could be a better twist than they might be doing now.
It would have gone a long way just to make the 3D/2D flip transition happen faster and removing the timer for it. I can't think of a single gameplay reason for the timer. Plus, the ticking sound gets annoying real fast.
@Loogi 12 yeah i agree it was as a punishment for abusing it too much. however, it's only a minor punishment so you can still get on with stuff if you really have to, it won't kill you unless you're really low
Hey are you here
Yeah Nintendo nowadays always try to experiment with its series sadly
"When you finish the game, you just forget about all the mediocrity."
I... Wow. It is spot on, isn't it. Super Paper Mario is indeed my favorite one of the bunch, but I actually forgot about the dubious game design. To be fair though, I personally love the resetti like please spam. It isn't so far from the literal hundred "I love you" text bubble in Thousand Years Door.
Oh also, I really, *really* love Mimi's mansion concept. The ruppee grinding always bring me joy.
I found the 100 "I Love You"s funny but I hated the repeating please's because the game doesn't tell you in any way that you have to repeat it so it is far too easy to move on and then get stuck until 2 hours pass.
@@Redpoppy80 If you finished Chapter 5 though, it's pretty clear it was to establish that the Cragnons are pretty much annoying jerks and while what the Floro Sapiens did was bad, it was retaliation of what the Cragnons did.
Rupees???
that reminds me of sonic adventure 2. I played it as a kid, and once I got to that (in?)famous final cutscene, I forgot all about the bullshit level design, questionable voice acting, bullshit level design, odd dialog timing, bullshit level design, uninteresting iteration on the knuckles formula created by the first sonic adventure game, bullshit level design…
This game is incredible. I only really played this game when I was about 5, back when it came out, but I remember loving the story, loving the gameplay, solving puzzles with the help of my sister who is brighter when it comes to puzzles. I absolutely loved the looming doom of the black hole, and my god there were so many memories when I went back to it. It was like going through your old Minecraft worlds on the xbox 360, each building and each area has memories tied to it. Im going back to TTYD and replaying that, so far its as good as I remember, but I dont think it will be quite as good as going back to SPM.
Ah yes.. I remember playing this and encountering mimi as she then turned into a spider. Didn't sleep that week
That was both mesmerizing and horrifying and the same time. I miss it so much...
I remember being scared of Mimi's spider form when I first played SPM. Oh, the memories I've spent on this game...😊
I couldn't beat the game for years because of that fear
@@pokshimin yo, same. I watched chuggaaconroys playthrough instead at the time
@@pokshimin I still haven't beaten it (can't anyways cause I cant find my Wii)
I just played the level and prayed to god that spider Mimi didn’t show up, (I also could barely read at the time)
"Mimimimimimi-"
9:49 "There is no reason to play as him otherwise"
You're just gonna neglect Bowser's amazing dialogue like that???
He probably means from a gameplay standpoint.
Browser wrecc final boss
Bowser is great for the 100 battle challenge in the knight level. (Post game)
And his helicopter arms
I feel like I’m one of the few people who absolutely loved this game as a kid. The story was phenominal.
Me too.
yes. nine year old me was obsessed. played it like seven times in six months. the day i beat the game, i started a new save lol
Your one of the many people, trust me
The story is the best part about the game. As for the gameplay, it's not the best. But it's average and I do like that it's an Side Scrolling/Action RPG rather than traditional RPG. Even though I vastly prefer the series as an traditional RPG. But this is an exception.
Look, I understand people missing a traditional rpg battle formula and seeing this game as the start of a slippery slope, but this is by far me and my siblings' fav Paper Mario game (and one of our favorite Mario games ever).
The story is amazing (I'd fawn over the backstory build-up and Dimentio, but you said it, not me), the gameplay is still fun (like Mario Bros 2, but with rpg items), and and it's an integral part of our childhoods.
10/10 would recommend
This game is full of memorable characters and it's got a poignant story, muses Count Bleck.
IT'S NO COLOUR SPLASH THOUGH
AMMIRITE ANT GUY?
CUZ CS IS UR FAVOURITE
( /s but not /s at the same time)
Whenever i see this game, i can't help but think of Zelda 2 The Adventure of Link, it may just be the whole factor of being a platformer with RPG elements, and i know they're very different, but there's also a lot that Super Paper Mario takes from that game.
Agree with that comparison, but I feel like this game also has correlation with Metroid Fusion and Sonic Adventure 2. For Fusion, it was a game that came after what was considered a masterpiece that did something totally different. For SA2, it’s reputation, it’s either considered the last good one or the first bad one.
It's like they put zelda 2, paper mario and cave story in a blender together.
I always say it’s the best sequel to Zelda 2 we’ve ever gotten lol
I played Zelda 2, I don’t like it.
I 100%ed this game though, and enjoyed doing it.
@@PhantomShadow224 The Palace theme from Zelda II is awesome, though.
This game had 1 toad....
*The fans missed toad so much, the developers made more toads in sticker star*
Then color splash came and the whole population of prisma island is toads.
And then origami king came out and everywhere is infested with toads
Also I think a toad was mentioned only once in the game idk
It's kinda like how the Koopalings were once some of the most requested characters to return, which they did in NSMBW to great applause, only to then become "overused" in recent games. They're fine roster filler for Kart, Party, and Sports, but their recent RPG presence in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam and Paper Mario: Color Splash has contributed to their more polarizing reputation today.
I like how toad has taken over the series, I wonder why?
I must know where did you find that t-shirt.
It's in the shadow realm, buried deep into the depths of Culex's house.
The story, characters and settings in my opinion are good.
I especially liked the fact you can get bad endings by...not wanting to save the world, or doing stupid things.
This game straight up fought the "but thou must" trope to the bitter end.
It lost because a game ending with a main protagonist denying breathing support in a vacuum would be silly, but it tried, damn it.
i remember Tippi basically calling Mario stupid and ridiculous if you don't wear the space helmet. love her to bits 😂😂
It was an obvious joke.
With an excessive meta-analysis you could say it meant Mario was ready to call it quits once he saw space.
He's like "NOPE! I didn't need one in Super Mario Galaxy, and I don't need one here!"
Makes me grateful that Mario actually chooses to save the world too.
“Save the World”
“No”
“Game over”
List o' bad ending
Mario dont want to save world
Refuse to wear helmet in space
Dont want to find Luigi
Want to serve Dimentio
We may never know who Mr. L is, but we all know his theme slaps hard.
Mr.L is Luigi's heartless, his darkness, miyamoto said so during the ps5 presentation
...............?
Then who's his Nobody?
@@napstio8399
Gooigi!
so what we need is:
gameplay, world and character design from TTYD
A story like super
The graphics/engine from colour splash or the origami king
NOTHING from sticker star
and boom the perfect Paper mario game
(feel free to add something from 64)
Music track from sticker star (yes, I thought it had a pretty good soundtrack)
@@sw1shstyx777 I can get behind this, the more jazzy tunes are amazing.
Puzzle mechanics from the origami king
For most I agree, but highly disagree with the graphics and engine from Origami King. I do not like the whole world being made of paper and cardboard. To this day I wish the English localization of the game had never titled the game "Paper Mario", and instead gone with Mario Story.
From 64 I would say varied and iconic scenarios/sequences, such as the whole Tubba Blubba sequence where you have to sneak around the place, eventually finding what you need, getting discovered, and then needing to GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE.
Slight correction: the Catch Cards at the end of the Flopside Pit of 100 Trials actually allow you to inflict double damage against every enemy after obtaining them.
Also getting the mario card allowed for infinite flip time (have to go through flopside pit twice though)
@@borisegelston Yeah, funnily enough, I didn't realize that was what caused the infinite flip time when I replayed the game recently on an emulator.
For a while, I was worried that I accidentally activated a cheat or something like that.
This game has lore so deep, you would never even realise without going through *literally* everything in the game. It's a shame we'll never know the full story since theories on this game are dead.
Pretty much everything about the game was figured out, including Shadoo and the Pixl Queen. Dimentio is the only missing link, but that's probably intentional.
It is written like an anime, it’s so good
@@TiStardust one day my boy dimentio will make his grand return
Loogi 12 yes he is ignore him he just wants to pick a fight
Titus Richards where can you find that stuff? I’ve always wondered about the Pixl Queen
“Is Super Paper Mario any good?”
Short Answer: Yes. In fact, it’s amazing.
This is, no doubt, my favorite paper mario. The soundtrack and story are just amazing! There are so many beautiful and emotional moments. The fact that u have bowser peach and luigi as party members its just cool. And the gameplay, even tho i can understand why some people could not like it, i have no problem with it, its fast easy and fun.
Here is why this one is my favorite:
The gameplay is pretty good in my opinion, I really like the combination of RPG stats and platforming
The enemies and NPC’s are all super unique and there is only 1 toad in the game!
The soundtrack is phenomenal and easily the best in the series with bangers like the ultimate show
The story is also at its best with a story so complex, it made Miyamoto not want a story in the next entry
The antagonist has an actually goal that isn’t world domination, where he wants to end all worlds by destroying them because the world took his loved one ( which is your companion ) so the main antagonist basically wants to commit suicide and take everything out with him
And the characters are super likeable like Luigi who is at his best in the paper Mario franchise as he is an antagonist for one part of the game, and a playable character in the other, O’chunks and Mimi with their weird yet charming personalities, Dimentio the minion that you get pretty weird vibes from until you discover he is the surprise villain. And much more!
I really recommend this game and I’m super excited for oragami king!
Anyways thanks for reading!
I agree with you for the most part, but I personally don't find the music to be as excellent like you proclaimed it to be. It's not a *bad* soundtrack, but it pales in comparison to the other Paper Mario games.
When it comes to soundtrack, ColoUr Splash is surprisingly top quality - with real instruments to boot. So crisp and clean.
Agreed !
the music alone makes it my favorite and the same thing for partners in time
Peter Cheaib oh yeah I forgot! Silly me
It’s just that they look so similar it’s hard to distinguish them sometimes
Funny story,
When I was 10 or so, because I was a big Mario fan, I got this game as a present since the game cover had Mario and friends on it.
I was super excited because I got a new Mario game for my Wii.
Excited, I turned on the Wii, put the game disk in and started playing the game. All good an dandy until I realized...
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ANY WORD IN THE GAME!
That was because the game I got was actually on ENGLISH, and back then I didn't know english (I'm from south America).
So, there I was, playing Super Paper Mario, a Story based game, in a language I didn't understand.
But since I was a child (a stupid one I tell you), I still played the game.
So I kept playing, roadblock after roadblock, part of the game I couldn't get through because I didn't know english. I literaly used a english dictionary in one part! (When the Hammer Thingy asked a question about what word I like or something in the prehistoric chapter).
Day passed, Week passed, until I finally BEAT THE GAME.
I WAS SUPER HAPPY!
I didn't understand why the Bad Guy with a Hat and the Butterfly Thingy was left behind to die but I certainly didn't care.
It may be an exaggeration but I say that was one of the acomplishment in my life.
In the end, I may have struggled with this game, but it's still one of my favourite game, and I still get salty when someone talk bad about it (even though they may be right).
That's amazing! I'm so glad you had fun with it and that it encouraged you to try and learn. Those are the best kinds of Games.
Bruteforcing my way through RPGs without knowing English is how I ended up learning the basics so many years ago as a kid, and I had a very similar experience with the Super Mario RPG for the SNES, and later the original Paper Mario, I couldn't read any English but still really enjoyed the story somehow, lol!
That's awesome! Glad you were able to enjoy the game despite not knowing english at the time lol
If you don’t know english, good luck playing video games and youtube is even worse since there usually is no subtitles for spanish and other languages lol
That’s awesome! I just got arachnophobia
Hot take: this is the best game in the entire series.
It is absolutely my favorite at least.
I agree
My favorite for sure
Well I never got to play the other ones besides sticker star which was hot garbage
Agreed even a hundred years from now I probably have fond memories and friends from it imo
"God Luigi show some emotion you're heartless" He says to the only one of the four protagonists to have human emotions
What? But Bowser. He's SO expressive.
@@sloppyphart7879 I mean in the entire series in general
Tf does this mean they all have emotions except Mario, oh u mean the entire series wow that was worded bad
Gameplay is pretty okay and sorta underwhelming. Literally everything else is amazing. The characters, writing and story are just awesome.
@Kadeeen I understand why someone would like the gameplay but, for me, it was way too basic and easy to really get into to.
Still one of my favorite Mario stories but I had fun with the game itself too.
@Tom The Fish Well obviously most decent novels outclass it, but by Mario standards it is absolutely fantastic.
I actually love swapping between 2D and 3D.
I liked the gameplay and considered it fun, but yes, everything in here is good
As someone who has 100% the game, cards and all. Its beautiful, storywise it's a masterpiece, but combat wise its definitely not the greatest. I love this game to death though and forever will.
Same I love the game
SPM has a special place in my heart 💛💜💙
Do you have piccolo? You know the weird music pixel?
@@brandyshosty7032 I got him at the end of the game, you have to spend all your coins right.
No the coins are for Tipitron.
I vividly remember the day I watched the preview of the introduction for this game at GameStop. I said to myself: "I NEED THIS GAME", and spent an entire summer doing chores to buy my first Wii system and the game. It was the last time I felt motivated to buy a new Paper Mario game. This is a game I play shortly after completing Paper Mario TTYD. That's how good it is to me. Faults and all.
My impression of the fan's view of SPM was that it was hated at launch for being not a normal RPG, but people enjoyed it more later on
To me, the plot of the story (just the ENDING alone) eclipsed every prejudice I had towards super paper mario not being a classic rpg like the original and thousand years door
Also can we address that Mario and friends get sent to actual hell in this game!
that level of undertone creepiness is reserved for Kirby!
@Patbacknitro Luigi didn't do that.
What are you talking about? That was Mr. L who did that
The DarkKnacki all paper Mario games are bare bones compared to all rpgs tbf
The DarkKnacki Example Chapter 2,4,6, and mostly chapter 7
Dude, I just learned about this game and now I can’t stop talking about it, Help.
This game was so creepy and unnerving in the best way - I adore this game (the clock tick sounds in the soundtrack are so weirdly good)
I only noticed that only castle bleck's ost, it reflects the fact that you are running out of time
And the best creepy part for me was unlocking luigi, like, imagine my reaction with 10 years finding out that he was depressing on a rock found at the bottom of a lake made of sinner tears (and their hands too)
And add to it the music at the bottom of the lake, and you have me with 10 years getting creeped out extremely
I was expecting a “In short, yes, but the fan base doesn’t like change”
So true
Wrong game to attach that line to. People go nuts for this game.
@ClaireSoelberg-op8id It wasn't for a while, at the time, or maybe earlier, the game was quite disliked, as it garnered the Paper Mario title, but played more in line like a normal Mario game.
@a.g.u.2399
You’re right… I guess I’m just puzzled. SO many people claim this game is underrated and forgotten, but that simply is NOT true anymore. Compared to the reception of the newer Paper Mario games (that I’m more nostalgic for tbh) Super Paper Mario is absolutely treasured, and the thousands of people in this comments section are the oblivious proof. I don’t mean to disregard anyone’s positive experience with this game, but the overly vehement “SPM-is-mixed-and-under-appreciated” thing is just getting a bit old. It may have been true once upon a contentious time, but not anymore.
Isn't that just the Pokemon fan base in general?
Most people: super paper Mario SUCKS!
Me and like one other person: it’s a good game! :D
I claim the spot of that one other person
@@edencaraballo1858 and mine
3rd best paper mario gamesl
You made a typo. *you and literally every person on the internet that doesn't know how to listen to criticism and instead says a game is their favorite no matter what because it's either 1. The first game they played in the series. 2. A game they played way in the past. Or 3. They haven't even played the game and are a sucker for """""underrated""""" games. You're welcome
Wow did you know nobody cares you can spell better in a comment no one cares or looks at
“Is Super Paper Mario actually good?” Yes, it’s underrated and it’s my second favorite next to Thousand Year Door.
It is one of my favourite Wii games
Completely agree!! I feel like a lot of people just see it as an oversimplified platforming turn for the series, but I love everything around it and feel like more should give it a chance
Same tho (since I don't have a Wii u or a switch)
It’s my favorite
I agree with you
Me without even watching the video and just clicking because of the title: "YES IT ABSOLUTELY IS"
Super Paper Mario > Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.
@@demodragon6426 that is debatable, some people really like the full RPG aspects of thousand year door others (like me) really prefer the RPG-esque style of super, it really depends from person to person
Zephaniah Archer same
@@lucaspeixoto975 I think he was just stating his personal opinion lol. And it's an opinion I 100% agree with. Super Paper Mario babyyyy! Lol
@@DangerouslyStupidGamer I won't deny, I also agree with it, but I saw this guy just going to every comment that was positive with super, and commenting something like "ttyd was better" and I replied to one of those comments with a similar comment like the one I made here, and I just thought that it wouldn't be cool to say that in relation to ttyd and not say that just because someone liked super, and both comments were pretty similar in structure.
Shit, this comment got long, sorry
I absolutely adore this game! The story, music, and characters are absolutely amazing! It is partially nostalgia that influences my opinion, but I just love it. I also prefer the combat style more, but that’s just me not loving turn based combat as much. There’s also just so much to do, I never really felt bored. (Except the 3 block puzzles lol)
same here! I prefer the combat style too; it just feels more like a traditional Mario game, at least to me. the music and the story will always have a special place in my heart
@@avapeklinsky648 me too
we see eye to eye on fashion
I don’t care what anyone says, this is my favorite game of ALL TIME!
why
@@th3_consul that's his opinion that's why
Same I love this game
@@th3_consul because it's better than any game ever made? Like, it's the best... obviously
Because you are like 9 Havent played the other Games i guarantee
I liked Super Paper Mario, it was a game where it actually made me feel at times (Lost Odyssey being another notable one for the feels), it knew how to balance the drama with the funny and the gameplay itself was varied enough to keep things interesting. The game I felt was a good balance between easy/sorta hard (never did beat the flopside pit of 100 trials, I just couldn't stand doing it twice) and the worlds were interesting. Honestly a SPM 2 would've been much more welcome than Sticker Star or Color Splash.
The end of Flopside's 100 trials ends with a boss fight against shadowy versions of the 4 playable characters. Pretty cool, but could only beat it by stocking up on literally all the best heals in the game. They do 20 damage per hit, and I think Bowser does 40. Ouch.
The Dark Prognosticus did NOT foresee this video, but I'm not gonna pass up an opportunity to defend a game with a GREAT story
Same (X)
Oh it’s Christopher moon getting too comment again
@@ross3209 bruh what
@Oshabot 16 bruh what
Hello again
Does anyone else feel like half the time you’re not even told where to go, so you have to look up a walk through to figure out where to go?
Yeah I got stuck at one point and stopped playing (I was like 10 or something idk) and now I can't find the disc ;-;
Yeah but that’s what I love about it. Playing for the first time and having to figure out what to do and where to go.
Okay please do a full review of
Bug fables and the everlasting sapling
I just beaten it! To be honest it is my favorite Mario game.
It is extremely deep and awesome!!! It’s all about sacrifices and being selfless even though it is extremely hard too.
Plus the ending..... it is bittersweet yet so beautiful.
To be honest I felt it aged insanely well! The control scheme with motion controls isn’t too bad and it felt like playing a new game honestly.
Ttyd is better
@@Tactix_se that is subjective, as you may prefer a full RPG like ttyd and other people may prefer this game, it's different for everybody
This game is amzing, I agree, but it is not my favorite. The original n64 is my favorite, but Super Paper Mario is a close second!
It’s personally my favorite but I do like the older features. But the story is the best here
@@Tactix_se TTYD is horseshit
I rented this game as a kid and played through it before getting stuck at Mimi’s manor. My sister looked it up, got all the rupees and handed me the controller saying I would like the next part
I had nightmares for the next week
"The game is pretty easy."
*Weeping* I never got past the last level.
I kept running out of lives in the last boss battle and gave up... I've never been much of a gamer.
Super Paper Mario has left a strange, yet profound impact on me as an adult, though it's been years since I've played it. When exploring Flipside and Flopside, I felt like I was in an ancient, mysterious place. There were random nooks and crannies to explore, where you could find hidden items. I even found a secret pixi whose purpose I never discovered... >:(
The game does a good job of making it appear as though there is a lot of lore, maybe more than there really is. One aspect of the game, I don't remember exactly, involves locating members of an ancient tribe, that was cool. I don't know how to describe the feeling this game gave me, "mystery and magic" are two words that come to mind though. I've been chasing that feeling ever since.
I just got done playing the game Gris and it gave me a similar feeling, due in part to the geometric art style and level design, but also the fact that the world felt ancient. I think a key thing in what makes a game good, might be how it makes you feel. But then again, Gris was the first video game I've played in years so I don't know much about games...
Uh, bro...
How you ran out of lives when there's no life system is beyond me...
@@ethnictendo I guess HP.
Its a game that uses very well the misterious and ancient theme, like you said. The desert on the first chapter, the mansion on the second, the ruins of the Floro guys, Hell..., for a 10 yo kid, beating the 100 samurais or the 100 dungeons of the cities felt like a gladiator going through stages of enemies without knowing what happens at the end, what reward Im going to get.
Its a wonderful game with a heartbreaking story, has moments that make you cry, laugh or say awww (when the fish in the suburbs has little fishes hahaha) and filled with awesome characters, plus the OST is top tier. Collecting the recipes and the stickers was fun as hell. Truly a masterpiece, the older games of the franchise look as good as SPM or more, but this one has a special place on my heart.
And about Gris, I couldnt end the game. For me is incredibly boring hahaha.
Honestly I've seen mainly 2 perspectives on this game. It's the best or its "the one that started the downfall of a series"
Well every games, that are not the orginal 2. are "bad" for fanbase that is like animals like sees other animal (other pm games) and just starts to murder it and then eat it (Saying that ttyd are the best)
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It's a decent game but it definitely does mark the downfall.
The problem is that its a puzzle platformer in a fanbase that likes rpgs. I think Spm might be the best game in the series, but (at the time of its release) the worst paper mario game.
Lets say the ginju force apeared in lord of the rings. They would be my favorite characters in lord of the rings but they would be the worst lord of the rings characters.
It's not really the downfall because it was so much fun
Okay, so I’ve always felt like this game was “TTYD 2” more so than PM3. And now that I know that this game was supposed to come out on the GCN as a direct follow up to that game, yeah that makes sense.
This game is nothing like ttyd
Spoilers: yes it is.
No i dont have any bias why would you think tha-
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Agreed
I agree.
Bias? That's not a real thing.
We are the unbiased bonanza.
There is no bias here whatsoever.
It's simple. People go in with expectations, get disappointed, ruin the fun for all the others. Opinions are pretty much worthless, that's why everybody shares them so freely.
Everyone will die and only your brother will live and be tortured.
Luigi: Oikydoky
SPM seems to be one of the ultimate examples of "as long as the story is good, average gameplay will be easily forgiven." And I'm not saying that like a bad thing either, truth is I'm sure other examples can be brought up. I've seen at least some people argue this has become the case with select Sony IPs like Last of Us and Death Stranding.
I will always prefer gameplay over stories in an video game because that's what it's all about. But I can agree.
This game is slept on so hard. The gameplay and music is gold IMO
I know right
@Tom The Fish finally someone outside of me thinks ttyd isnt perfection
No seriously its just a formula people got used to and want back thats really it pm origami king seems promising
Ttyd is overatted. I prefer the original and super. The switch one looks good tho
@Cihan what what
Short answer: Yes, absolutely.
Long Answer: Super Paper Mario is in such an odd place in the overall serie-
SPM is still my second favorite of the series next to TTYD. I get the criticisms, but I always found it an absolute joy to explore the worlds and meet the characters that await you.
Ah yes, the Neon Genesis Evangelion of Paper Mario.
How is this the top comment at 7 likes? I mean I love the comment but It’s just weird haha
This is accurate in every way, especially the scenes where Mario melts into orange sludge and does unspeakable things to Peach's unconscious body in a hospital.
What u mean by that?
Spencer Kaminsky Lmao
Melee Shounen. And Mario doesn’t have a robot to get into.
I’ve been replaying this game since I found my Wii so I got so hyped when I saw the notification for this.
Same
Ditto!
"Ants, my specie"
Hey AntDude how's your uncle, ant man?
When I had to go to the hospital for appointments, they had this Star Center in the hospital. It was basically a wii with a bunch of built in games that can be accessible to kids in hospitals. Super Paper Mario was included alongside Mario Party 8 and Shrek the third.
Super Paper Mario honestly seems to be the last genuinely ambitious game in franchise in terms of story.
This is actually my FAVORITE paper Mario game. Love the story and soundtrack a TON. I can put up with the gameplay.
I liked the gameplay. Don't kill me.
Mr. Formal same
Actually just playing the original Paper Mario for the N64 right now thanks to emulation. Was to young when I had a N64 so I didn't enjoy or really understand even simply RPG. Despite always being a big fan of a lot of Nintendo big franchises I haven't owned a single Nintendo system since the Game Cube. So I have really been missing out on a lot of great games. At least thanks to Emulation I have been able to play all of the NDS titles I was dying to play. And thanks to the Stimulus Check I got I decided to buy a N2DS XL so that I can play the 3DS games I have been dying to play. Bought the 4 games I have most wanted to play which are Pokemon X and Sun as always been a huge Pokemon fan so it's been killing me that I haven't been able to play a single title since Black 2. Also bought Link Between Worlds being a big Zelda fan. And then Fire Emblem Fates.
Was thinking about buying Sticker Star despite some saying it's terrible but others have said it's at least a solid game not bad but not great. And it only costs like $10 now so I might do it. Although I might buy some other Mario related 3DS title like Super Mario 3d land or Poochy and Yoshi's Woolly World.
I feel like the story of this game needs to be talked about more its just that damn good
Short answer: Yes, It’s amazing.
8:14
"This is more character development for Mario than you can find in any other Mario game in the entire franchise."
Somwhere, Miyamoto is suffering an aneyurism.
SilverHairedFreak25 Mario has character developement, the horror.
Somewhere in the 80s because after that he just reused the same ol story
What the hell, I looked up “antdude super paper mario” about an hour ago with no results and wasn’t surprised. And now this comes out.
Good thing it's Mayrio Month...interestingly he just uploaded a few days ago too.
What a coincidence that I am just playing it (it is the first time I play it and I am going to chapter 7) and on CZcams many videos about the game appear and most of them came out this year xD
"No reason to switch characters"
Diologue varies depending on the character thou...
My favorite part about this game is the humor. It has some of the best humor in the entire series, without a doubt.
My first paper Mario game, and my favorite.
Imagine my surprise when I was a kid, getting hit by the first goomba and not dying in one hit. (Platforming games made me nervous back then, watching speed runners helped me overcome that)
I’m still mad Luigi didn’t get a Mr. L skins in Super Smash Bros: Ultimate
That's because it would spoil that he is Luigi
greencapzelda
Omg I’m sorry I didn’t mean to spoil endgame
@@KalmiaJoy It's alright, I forgive you
greencapzelda
Thank goodness
Wait, why would Luigi have a Mr. L costume? They are competing different in every way
Super paper Mario is one of the first Mario games I played and it makes me extremely nostalgic.
I was like 8. And it will always be perfect in my eyes.
You know I'm going to go play it now. :D
"ENJOY LABOR!"
"Who's that man you see who grooms his stace so well, the man of mystery, they call me Mr L, who's behind the mask, are you afraid to ask, ride like a hurricane, green thunder in the rain."
“Am I asomeone’s brother? Eh, who knows.”
Yesss! Friend
Huh, I feel like I've heard it before. Eh, probably some Man on the internet
Juno works with the man on the internet so your fine
11:27 I AM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THIS!!
I made it to this part in the game, and it's at this point that I began to dislike this game. I finished Chapter 4 (Digi-nerr stuff), then returned the game.
One of the few Mario games I've never beaten.
Seeing the ending of Chapter 4 -- where the Cragnons are found out to be actually jerks, being the reason why the water got poisoned and made the Floro Sapien king go mad -- it made their annoying quirks make SO much sense; it's a grey morality chapter, really.
@@zjzr08 >Chapter 5, 4 is Space
Lol first 2 comments are off?
World 3 is Digi-Nerr
And World 5 is Cragnons
Edit: "Chapter"
I smell a future LP
@Blue Fire Is Cold We're they even civil, they seem to be opposites even before -- I can't remember some of the details that may shine the difference between the two peoples like in the Floro Sapien portraits, but it seems the Floro Sapiens were approving of the brainwashing (based on the final portrait) probably because the Cragnons cannot be reasoned with. I think the Floro Sapiens weren't happy that King Croacus became cuckoo though, probably doing something even they weren't tolerating.
Can I just say how much I love all of the art for the thumbnails!! It’s wonderful :)👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I've had a lot of fond memories of Super Paper Mario since it was my first paper mario game. That may just be me speaking with nostalgia glasses, but watching your video really wants to make me play it again.
Well I liked that game, whether other people think it’s good or not.
People: _show Bug fables_
HK fans: Is this hollow knight?
That’s... not what I thought
I don't think anyone was saying that.
Hollow Knight being my favorite game ever made... no, I did not think that. They look NOTHING alike other than having bugs in it, dunno bout' you.
i'm not even a hollow knight fan (yet) and i'm like this
As a person that OBVIOUSLY hates hollow knight, I don't agree
I feel sad that this game just kinda got forgotten. It holds so many memories and by far is my favourite mario game. I guess it's helps with the fact that I prefer real time fights to RPGs, but I also like how the characters like peach and bowser actually have cool personalities and the storyline is just great.
8:08
Bobby’s death: I’m gonna pretend you didn’t say that
I actually didn’t mind the platforming. I’d say this game surpasses TTYD in the story department, although I love both games equally.
I think I still like TTYD's story better, but this game has the best story climax and ending for me. I still loved TTYD's story climax and ending, but this game got very intense in the big finale.
I personally love SPM. It has so much charm. Great writing, great story, great music, great characters, it has it all. The gameplay can be a bit boring at times, but I did really enjoy switching between 2D and 3D. All in all, I think it's very good. I still pretty much only hear positive things about this game from fans. Very rarely do I see someone disliking it.
Yes finally someone has talked about bug fables. Thank you. Please do a full review.
This originally being a GameCube spin-off makes sense - this was supposed to be the Captain Toad Treasure Tracker to Super Paper Mario's 3D World - the odd little spin-off made using resources from the previous game
Short answer(imo): yes, it’s one of the most underrated games on the Wii!
'Sees just Bowser through the Sammer tournament.'
Seems legit.
One glance at the title and I can tell you:
*Yes*
this game is probably my favorite mario game in general, idk there's just something about it that catches my interest and keeps me invested in it
It must be the psychadelia and the fact that it feels like a 2D Super Mario game with dystopian futuristic settings, knowing the game’s title.