Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door VS Color Splash - AntDude
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- It's the battle of two worlds, both of which happen to feature paper thin plumbers. It's a faceoff between Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door and Paper Mario: Color Splash!
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"If only Paper Mario allowed you to date."
Uh, you have played Super, didn't you?
@@Ecl1ps0_ na
I always try to make peach blush in that part of the game. It's just too funny
@@papaG6423 ikr
I forgot I made this comment
And today Ant made an episode about Super. Nice timing.
2:49 I wonder where they went
*Meanwhile in the Kirby Universe*
"the ground feels like...pants!"
*Meanwhile in the UK Kirby Universe*
"the ground feels like...trousers!*
69 like nice
"What in the Lost Levels is going on here!?"
meanwhile in japan
"What in the Doki Doki Panic is going on here!?"
Thank you very cool
I snorted when I read this
More accurately
“ドキドキパニックはどうなっているの！？”
I think it'd go like "WHAT IN THE USA IS GOING ON HERE!?"
Because of Super Mario USA (2), of course
People in 2016 WHAT IN THE DOKI DOKI LITERATURE CLUB IS GOING ON HERE
Oh, I remember Super Paper Mario, with it's amazing plot, creative gameplay and wide cast of characters. And a total of 1 Toad.
That game generated a lot of controversy, since it changed so much from the previous installments on the Paper Mario franchise. However, I still think it is an amazing game, along with TTYD and PM64.
Then Sticker Star happened and hell broke loose.
I love Super, but it makes me sad to know that it is indirectly responsible for the franchise’s downfall.
Super Paper Mario: *Try something new* 10/10 GAME OF THE YEAR
Sticker star: *Try something new* NO GOD PLZ NO.
We truly are a beautiful species.
Cheezbunny: but sticker star’s hate was justified. A game with an RPG battle system that doesn’t give any EXP and ultimately encourages players to skip battles when you can? Who thought this was a good idea?
That being said, I really don’t get where people are coming from for SPM sucking. It has issues mind you, but I personally thought TTYD had issues way worse.
Sorry Cheezbunni
Mojo1426
Yes! The first person who thinks SPM is good! The game's story was the best in the series and was personally better than TTYD.
I think people just want a new game that improves on TTYD like TTYD did to the original.
honestly I'drather have a HD port of Thousand Year Door or even the original Paper Mario (the latter I never played) rather than another sticker star game.
+Jake Komar, I'm kind of sad some people fail to understand that. Especially the devs themselves
+Jake Komar THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING TO THOSE IDIOTS WHO USE THE SAME SHITTY ARGUMENT "hurr derp people hate it because is not TTYD 2 darp"
But yeah, at this point, Paper Mario is dead.
just like people say SMASH IS NOT LIKE MELEEE HRLSTBKGHL/ISJVBLWIFGV,FSHLVRSAGVLHRUL.ZHLUKAGLHZAULUAEHGLRAHGIOHHOAGIOEHOISIOSEHIOSKLEZJRGSLBT;LRWKHLSIOLGJ.RZONS
Jake Komar We. Do. )':
i want a hybrid: color splashes humor and exploration with ttyds battle and partner system...and more characters.
and something akin to the epic plot of Super Paper Mario
I never got the hype with Color Splash humor. I like TTYD humor the best to be honest.
You just described a perfect game
***** probably because it feels clsoer to an actual paper mario game than sticker star
supersmashbro596 Same
I guess you could day Color Splash's plot was... paper thin? I'll just go.
Are u from the future?
I think that he’s a prophet
OH GOD HOW DID YOU KNOW
Tell us your secrets
Senior Shrek know what?
He had some balls of steel to make this video. He's making some really controversial statements about both games.
Are you planning to cover Super Paper Mario eventually?
Cool story with many great moments, the blandest gameplay you'll ever see.
Joseph Cross looking back it seems that every Paper Mario game do something good and something bad. Probably that is because they changed the type of game that Paper Mario is multiple times.
Super Paper Mario had a really interesting setting and probably the best story in all Paper Mario games but the gameplay is bland.
TTYD had a good story and good battle system but the overworld exploration wasn't really great. (SPM at least is a lot easier and less tedious to backtrack).
CS had good overworld exploration and even if the story wasn't great the writing was quite good. And even if the battle system is basically the Sticker Star formula done right that formula still is the Sticker Star one.
Amen
Joseph Cross Also is nothing against your comment (I actually agree with what you said) but it seems that saying that a thing is bad usually have more likes that saying that is okay but can be improved.
Well... In PM case I also see that if you want likes you can also say "TTYD is the best".
Interesting how that works.
The gameplay is only a little fun, it gets crippled by bland and/or annoying puzzles, subpar level design, and the game loving to listen to itself do exposition
'I'll tell my children and my children's children's parents"
think about it...
"I'll tell my children and my children."
Thousand Year Door is actually fairly dark, especially when you consider what happened to the four heroes who defeated the shadow queen the first time around
Somebody understands, you can don't have to dislike a game cause it's different from the other, you can like both of them at the same time just one of them is your favorite though. Subscribed
yea ikr the ttyd fans need to just accept the change if Anything i prefer coler splash Over ttyd in almost Every aspect Except for the battle system just like both games similar to me don’t judge a game by it’s cover and just accept that games change over time
Here's my take as someone who played ttyd as a rental, super, then sticker, then 64, then colour, and finally reacquired ttyd.
Fans of the series fit into 2 categories. Traditional RPG fans, and traditional adventure game fans.
If you value story, widly varied characters, and extremely customizable battle systems, you prefer rpgs.
If you value exploration, puzzle solving, and simple combat, you're into traditional adventure games.
Adventure enthusiasts may get annoyed when the older games stop constantly to give lore since they just want to explore. They also probably care less about combat so not having to invest too much into it is more appealing.
RPG players on the other hand, dislike watered down stories, they often see simplicity in a story as a missed opportunity to truly elaborate and hit home. They want deep strategic combat that somewhat accurately reflects their strength compared to yours. That's right, "yours". RPG players like immersing in a role at the end of the day. Every extra sentence.
Super fans generally fit in the rpg category, due in no small part for the straws.
@@Kurumithespiritnightmare while I appreciate your mindset, I wholeheartedly disagree with your stance that everyone should "just accept that games change over time". that's simply not true. it's not a law of nature that all video game series should get radically redesigned from the ground up for no logical reason. if people don't like the change made to the paper mario series, they are entitled to their opinion.
@@jclkaytwo i agree with you it’s hard to accept unwanted changes in certain game seories it’s just that it’s been 20 freaking years since the last rpg paper mario game you eventually have to wonder why the older paper mario fans haven’t moved on from the whole “paper mario is an rpg” thing when it’s been 20 years since the last rpg paper mario game it’s probably time to just shut up about it and move on but overall i agree with you i think that they should make 2 types of paper mario games the rpg kind and the action adventure kind to make both sides happy i’d love to have another paper mario game more akin to the thousand year door too as it’s probably my favorite one right next to the 64 version but it’s just pretty clear that we won’t be getting another true rpg paper mario game so i’ve just been playing bug fables from now on
You can don't grammar?
Paper Mario Chain Of Memories was better than I expected.
Didn't the phone Kingdom hearts have stickers too?
Elemental Origin Ehhh medals that you use to attack. It's somewhat similar but kinda way better. I actually really love the mobile kingdom hearts game
Elemental Origin it does (it's medals just to correct you....... again lol) but the difference is that each medal actually has stats and (for the most part) completely unique special attacks. you combine that with the fact that you can level up and evolve the medals, add abilities, and later "guilt" them to level up their special attacks, and a "nova" attack that levels up when you guilt medals....yeah definitely not the sticker star battle system and really strategic in terms of free to play games
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that, if you're referring to the card battle system.
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As one who has had the same initial/continual impressions as most when it came to seeing Color Splash (i.e. "It's just Sticker Star 2. Nope."), this video is actually making me consider getting Color Splash at some point. Maybe not at the $60 price tag, but still, the thought is there now. Your scripting was great for this episode; had you not mentioned that TTYD's main exploration wasn't fun, I think I would still be blinded by nostalgia, and/or ignorant as to why I or new players are not enjoying themselves in some way, shape, or form.
Go figure; a controversial topic actually working out in the initiator's favor? In today's Internet? Perish the thought.
"I can't feel my pants!"
You should see a doctor about that.
My penis is *LIMP*
Quick fix to color splash
1. Add *UNIQUE* characters *NOT* toads (Also including bosses)
2. A battle system and leveling up system like TTYD or PM
3. A actual Plot *NOT* go save peach from bowser
BAM extremely good game that every one can like (For Paper Mario Fans)
And remove the card/sticker gimmick
Agreed
@@theutubepower1243 now now, hold on. the gimmick isnt inherently terrible, if you could level up and get attack bonuses on the cards, it could work,if they wanted to real,y change it up
Skiffy well at least add a basic attack incase the player runs out of stickers/cards
@@theutubepower1243 sounds good
So how about Super? Ever consider reviewing that?
Super Paper Mario:AND I'M HERE TOO *gets obliterated by TTYD Fans
Nah I agree with y ou
SPM is one of the best
SPM is the best
SPM is so good
It's strange because i saw many people claiming super is the best rather than people claiming ttyd is the best
While I see what you mean about TTYD not being very fun, I kind of have to disagree. I've never really MINDED things like backtracking and long segments, because they honestly feel satisfying to complete.
Exactly! In the same way that some people (me) may not find painting every level in color splash to be a jolly ol' time, while others find it fun
Kingston White I thought the levels in Color Splash were fun, but having to hunt down EVERY LAST colourless spot is kind of painful. TTYD is the kind of game where you can take your time and see every last detail, without having an annoying goal like repainting everything.
I find the least "fun" is super paper mario. I really liked it but things like samer's kingdom was just boring
Carl Filion I agree. It's a interesting concept, but some parts are just so long, and because it's a 2D platformer, it isn't that fun from time to time.
It got a lot of pacing issues. When it was fun, it was amazing, when it was bad, it was awful. As I said, samer's kingdom is the worst chapter. It's divided in 2, part 1 going through doors and repetitive battles, part 2 is walk in a white space for what seems like the eternity
After playing through TTYD for the fifth or so time, I totally agree with you. I'm just now playing Color Splash and I actually really love it. The reason why I would say the Paper Mario series (excluding Sticker Star) is one of my favorites of all time is because each game--64, TTYD, Super, and CS--all feel very enjoyable and well-made in wildly different ways. That's something special, so I'd like to see where else they can take this!
So, after all the analyzing, which one is actually better?
TTYD. Not even a debate.
22neptun did you... see the video before at least?
I've watched the video till the very end, and there were a lot more cons to CS than there were to TTYD. And most of those "cons" of TTYD aren't even real cons to begin with.
All of the Colour Splash haters in a nutshell.
OH SNAP
***** Stuff like broken gameplay, generic character design and bare-bones story are all things that damage the whole game.
You can't compare those problems with, say, General White's side-quest, which is only annoying for like 10 minutes but doesn't have any other impact on the rest of the game.
(Reads title)
GET YOUR HARD HATS BOIS THERE'S GONNA BE A WAR
This video was what convinced me to get Color Splash, and I really enjoyed it.
oh man, this is some top-tier AntDude right here. The jokes just keep coming, they're all landing, and the analysis is good too. I know I'm commenting on a 2 and a half year old video, but I love you man, keep it up!!
Which one is Flipside, which one is Flopside?
Do your thing, comment section.
I swear I have heard this line before...
Super Paper Mario?
Color Splash doesn't even know what a Flipside or Flopside is
and koopalings
Everyone's just gonna say ttyd is flip side because it is the best paper mario game ever but I'm thinking more color splash is the enjoyable bright mindless dimension and ttyd is the serious dark dimension
Super Paper Mario is my favorite of the series mainly for its story because it's actually something besides saving princess peach. The gameplay was "interesting" and a little bland but with some pretty good plots and very different worlds to play and enjoy with original characters that you get to love, especially at the end of the game.
paper mario color splash an ocd's nightmare
Carlos Gonzalez true
Paper Mario: Splatoon Edition
And the bane of colorblind people.
Dimitri Cathcart Sticker Star: the Auggie Pullman of the paper Mario series. It’s great, but everyone judges it simply for being different.
What does OCD mean?
Obligatory
Computer
Download?
6:01
*Super crashes into the door, screaming*
"YOU CALLED?"
It's just that the 1000 door, a game from 2004, had like so more soul and love put into it that Color Splash, a game released in.... 2016... I think that's why most people are so angry about and tend to be really harsh on the new paper mario games. And that way, it makes it look like the ones making the new games don't understand or care about what us the fans love and wanna see again.
Yeah Color Splash may not be horrible, but other than some of it's comedy it is just a mediocre game.
i agree with you i boycotted color splash for mario luigi paper jam instead because at least it brought back partners the rpg combat system and the deep story while yes it’s considered a mario and luigi game it’s still felt like a true paper mario rpg game like the first 3 these newer entries are the complete opposite of the original 3 paper mario games but….. that’s probably because it’s a different game seories all together because in japan the first 3 games are called mario story and the later games are called paper mario so technically we Shouldn’t be comparing these new games to the original games because in japan the mario story arc ended with super paper mario so that’s why the seories changed so drastically because it’s Not The Same Seories Anymore and we shouldn’t even be complaining at this point because the mario story arc ended years ago while paper mario was a new seories that was made after mario story ended so they’re not the same seories
Paper cuts for everybody!
AntDude Love your work antdude keep it up
AntDude 👌
why is this even a video? clearly ttyd is better
AntDude nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice
AntDude WOWOWOWOWOWWO WHO COULD HAVE guessed HE PUT THEM AT A TIE! I still love you man but I'm tired of never getting a straight answer. I think color splash is more my type tbh
Wait.. I don't get it... why did they change the washing machine and remove the background elements?
Because US washing machines usually have the door on the top while European washing machines usually have the door on the front.
They just went too far, ok?
+Crazy Cactuar43 Okay, fair enough. Weird that they would put in that extra work just to make a change like that... but that doesn't explain why the background stuff is gone... it's still the same room, right?
ShyGuyXXL Yeah, it's still the same room. I'm not sure why they changed that.
Meanwhile we Aussies kinda have both, but since we live in PAL land... we got the European Machine :P
I've only played Color Splash, so I don't have any standards of what Paper Mario should be like. I think Color Splash looks better than most other Paper Mario games.
play ttyd, the story is interesting
I played SPM, SS and CS. I'm looking for Origami King
@@arturocastroverde3349 It looks really fun. I hope it's as funny as Color Splash was, but also good gameplay. Not that Color Splash had BAD gameplay.
"Only if paper mario allowed you to date"
Disturbing images projected into my mind... GET THEM OUT!
Oh you'd love Super Paper Mario
@@MikeConleyFan Who says I haven't?
I love both games. Both have their flaws but the positives far outweigh the negatives and make both really enjoyable to play. Really glad that was the message in the end and not that one was definitively greater than the other.
FINALLY A Paper Mario video that ACTUALLY gets my point of view. Great video AntDude, keep it up
Well I don’t have pitchforks but I do have a torch
I love how TTYD introduced so many new species, and barely any of them have ever been seen or mentioned since that game.
Ok. Fine. Color Splash has a nice world and nice comedy. Why should I not just watch a let's play?
That's what I'm trying to say to myself. It has funny lines, but all of it has the gameplay of boring exploration that I find is completely different from good exploration made in other RPGs that make a bigger world out of that exploration. All of the exploration is you getting something that won't affect you in the long run. And there's a lot of things in this game that I find no individuality from. The landscapes are boring to me, the levels are boring to me, the use of the hammer seems to be a gimmick more than anything. And why is it every time they go along with this wink and nod humor, I find it mostly wasted on a game that has barley any variety to back it up. It seems stilted in its own ideas and doesn't really know how to progress things in its own manner.
Well this can be said with a lot more games, TTYD if you watch a 100% lets play of it, you can get the same experience really.
Playing a game is a lot different then watching. If you're not playing, you have no control of your actions.
Color Splash is a game that's a ton of fun when you're in control of what you're doing as it gives you a very non-linear experience. You're free to decide the pace and it's not actively forcing you to do one thing.
Not that watching a Let's play isn't fun, that's why Let's plays are so popular to begin with. But it's a completely different type of experience of it's own.
Then again you can say the same thing for TTYD
I disagree, you miss out on the battle system, the badges, thats only one element, but to me, that part is huge for ttyd
Great video, i think you are one of the funniest guys on youtube! I really liked color splash. The battle system got a little old near the end, but overall a great game.
I like these videos as well but seeing them after seeing a more recent AntDude‘s video makes me see how much he has improved since then. Congrats!
Color Splash still beetter than Sticker Star
Yep. Aside from the absurd quantity of Toads, the "gimmicky" paint and battle card system is a good game.
I still loved sticker star because it was my 1st paper mario game
@@deestar2874 same, I love them both
Waffle Deesaster Agreed.
It’s kinda like saying “burning wood excessively is better than burning gas excessively” like yea it is but both are completely horrible
Color splash isn’t that bad. I easily prefer color splash over ttyd. And I’ve played ttyd as a child and have a ton of nostalgia over it. But I still prefer color splash.
Like the battle system is great, but what's the point if there's no motivation to actually move through each world
Louiepikmin3 umm, There is a reason to want to see more in the game, I felt much more compelled to play another world of color splash than advance the plot of ttyd.
I can’t get over him saying TTYD is boring. Linear is not boring and Color Splash is linear too.
Same. Im playing ttyd rn for the first time and im having fun. I like how they were still able to male the more linear level design still feel fun and feel like a place with the layout and all. Sure its not perfect but its still a fun experience for what it is.
Probably your best video yet! You seem to have loosened up a bit, the editing was great, and the argument was good enough that I might get the game :P
4:36 I've played this game twice and you fucking got me.
Well if you remember the Mountain Sage is actually a Chosen Toad, meaning he had a key sticking out of his head and glowing eyes, so he does have a different design from the professor
Gamebuilder2000 I do but if you remember, most of the game he’s identical to a normal toad AND uses that design as a template to start with. I like the game but its character design sucks.
@@PanjaRoseGold But if you remember he's part of the key to open the crimson Tower Gate, which is pretty much the end of "chapter 1" if you will, meaning he's actually a chosen toad for over half of the game, especially if you consider that before you meet him as the mountain sage, you never actually see him as he's behind the gate opening Booth to daffodil peaks, and only in the few seconds after you repaint his head and before he teleports to the mountain does he look like a normal Yellow Toad
but yeah, most toads other than the super major characters do generally have similar designs, I guess that is true, but I probably wouldn't want the different hairstyles from Paper Mario or TTYD because those guys look like they have hair coming out of their foreheads, considering their mushroom is their actual head and not a cap
Gamebuilder2000 I don’t give a damn what the story says, I’ve played the game 2 and a half times, I know. The point is he’s a recycled yellow toad with a slightly tweaked model. It’s still lazy ya know.
You forgot the good old Super Paper Mario 2D-to-3D perspective switch in the SMB3 Classic level.
Alex Schott
2.5D?
Explain that to me
I agree SPM is the best
@Fingernail Scene That's not what 2.5D is...
Super paper Mario is 2.5d (neither 100% 2D or 3D but is a mix of both), and it’s good, but it’s on the completely other side of the spectrum (think of it like this, a graph with how good vertically, and how close to 64ish horizontally LtR , SPM would be near the top right, good, but not made to add on the story and battle of ttyd, with 64 same vertically and opposite horizontally, and ttyd top left. Sticker star falls to the bottom middle, and color goes middle middle. That’s my opinion, if anyone even understands my weird logic)
In my opinion, Super Paper Mario is *very* underrated. It's, personally, one of my favorite games of [up to this point] in time.
Yeah, but you have to admit… being forced to a single joy con is annoying as hell
I hate super paper mario. I literally was forcing myself to play it and every time I played I hated it. It is not a fun game.
Honestly, I don't really care if it's adventure or an RPG. I don't even care that the battle mechanic sucks. I just want characters. Characters with real personalities, names, and unique designs. CS had some on point story elements, but its utter lack of characters is what makes me hate it.
Paper Mario has always been a favorite series of mine. TTYD and SPM are my favorites. TTYD was the big papa and SPM was the black sheep of the family that influenced the rest of its siblings to rise against and become rebels.
getting ttyd again for christmas. I had it when I was like 4 and then a few years later it got stolen. Hella good game but could never get passed the snow part.
LungSusage I've played it a again recently, and trust me, you're in for a good time. Oh by the way, to beat the snow place, speak to the mayor with Bobbery out.
DarkDragon2344 ahh ok thanks
+LungSusage also prepare for the most annoying part of the entire series.
Kenneth Okubo hahaha. im surprised i even got that far in the game at age 4
+LungSusage trust me what comes in chapter 7 is the most annoying shit you will ever deal with in the entire series. Nothing from sticker star even comes close
Everyone is in quarrel over what the best Paper Mario game is, and I am just trying to recover from the Vietnam flashbacks of feels you gave me when you mentioned Xenoblade and Persona.
Oh. My. Goodness. FINALLY SOMEONE WHO EVEN MILDLY LIKES COLOR SPLASH. Thank you.
Why?
I love color splash as well. Its my fav of them all
Well I’m not too much of a fan anymore, this was a year ago. Now there’s Paper Mario: Origami King, which is twice as good.
@@asumie_ alright
I feel like it's a little disingenuous to say That The Professor and the Mountain Sage have the same design, considering that The Mountain Sage is one of the Chosen Toads, so literal moments after he's revealed to be the mountain sage, he grows the signature key out of his head, and receives Glowing Eyes like Justice Toad and the surfer
TTYD is superior, but Color Splash isn't bad.
Why is "linear" a bad thing? Most of my favourite games are pretty linear.
Liner isn't a bad thing.
I don't know why people hate liner games.
The Dark Umbreon actually some galaxies are very open so depends which galaxy u r playing.
It isnt even THAT linear
@The Dark Umbreon I know that and SMG is one of my favourite games.
Personal preference. He preferred the more open feel that Color Splash had to TTYD's linear progression.
But... what if I like Super Paper Mario the best out of all the Paper Marios? Oh gawd, I'm gonna be witchunted now, aren't I? Send help.
Super Paper Mario is the best.
No. The first two were the best. Super is still great tho.
You are ok people don’t hate super paper Mario with a vengeance like they do with the game we don’t talk about( sticker star)
Unpopular opinion:
I HATE TTYD
Super is the best
I love all of the paper mario except Sticker Star
you know what else was fun to play? SUPER paper mario.
still havn't beat it though.
Matthew Goodman
Agreed. That game is so amazing!
I agree as well.
The game is shit. The physics and combat is unprecise, the NPCs are bland, the whole get 1,000,000 Rubee quest is SOO dumb. The only redeeming thing about SPM is the story, but you can just read the script. SPM was one of the weaker Wii games imo.
@@jimmynutpie839 The story is incredible, its a bit bland in gameplay but some of the locations are cool and it is exciting
Jimmy Nutpie I found the troll. Don’t feed it.
TtYD is better in my opinion, but both are good.
My main issue with Color Splash is jus how shallow an experience it is. It's funny, and it's has good graphics... and that's pretty much it. There's nothing it really offers that's not immediately there. Thousand Year Door offers the same things, but on top of that it gives us a world that actually has some depth to it, with characters all across the world referencing each other, changing dialogue as the story progresses, and actually having unique designs that reflect their individual personalities. I also just found TTYD to actually feel rewarding in terms of exploration and combat, though those are more personal preferences, so I guess that depends on the player. I found this video to be a somewhat cheap comparison, as one game is clearly more flawed than the other, but you never really address this fact and keep trying to play them up as equals.
Same, even though the levels are alot more linear, i still feel like theyre designed in a way that still feels fun but also feels like a world by the way they layout things. I saw somewhere in TTYD community posts, someone mentioned they felt like what ttyd lacked in freedom/openness, it made for in density.
I’m from the future and I’m here to say origami king fixed the battling system and I’m thankful for it
me too, I'm still a little sad about Bobby's death
TTYD is back
Nintendo remembered
Yep
The Thousand Year Door is like the classic Genesis Sonic games. They're not perfect, but they're still held to as a golden example of quality, and fans still long for their true successor. Meanwhile, Color Splash is like Sonic Adventure. It did many things very differently from the original classics, and are virtually different genres than their predecessors, but are still good games. The problem lies here - The Sonic Fanbase is split down the middle. Many want a true 2D Genesis Sonic successor, while others want Sonic Adventure 3. Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot, even if Color Splash was perfect, the Fanbase will be split between the Thousand Year Door fans and the Color Splash fans. They now have the responsibility, whether they know it or not, to please both types of fans, like Capcom appealing to Mega Man fans and Mega Man X fans. Good luck, Nintendo.
Serge Bernhardt Fair enough, but I still say Color Splash is similar to Sonic Adventure. Sticker Star would probably be Sonic R or Sonic 3D Blast, where they tried to reinvent the Sonic formula for the new age of 3D gaming and, more or less, failed. Sticker Star brought many changes to Paper Mario to bring the franchise to a new console generation, and again, failed. Color Splash and Sonic Adventure build upon their failed predecessors on the Saturn and 3DS, and while they are good games, they provide a vastly different experience to the older titles that everyone cherishes. Many people would be content with a new TTYD Paper Mario and Genesis Sonic, but some people want SA3, and I think at least some people would be slightly interested in a Color Splash 2. It's not as many people as the guys who want SA3, but still, there probably is a following out there. Meanwhile, Super Paper Mario would be something like Sonic Spinball, Super Paper Mario is a great game but very different from the ones before it. Sonic Spinball is also a good game but definitely not Classic Sonic material. Both games are almost as well recognized as the others, but retain that classic Sonic and classic Paper Mario feel, to an extent. It's a bit of an odd comparison, but I feel it has some merit.
i think SEGA is fixing this with the two new Sonic games Sonic Mania obviously for classic Sonic fans Sonic 2017 probably Sonic Adventure 3 i'm getting both
Except I grew up with the 3D games and as such hold them in higher regard to the Classics because I didn't grow up with. Most PM fans will agree that TTYD is the best one (SPM is my personal fav), but with the Sonic fanbase it's a lot more diverse, which is why our fanbase is so broken. We all have too many differing opinions.
King Koleyolis III That is a good comparison actually but you forgot Super Paper Mario.
I grow up with SPM and I liked a lot that game, even after playing TTYD and PM64
To be fair, I feel like the Mario & Luigi series is becoming what the old style of Paper Mario is (though saying that, the last one I played was Dream Team Bros) while Paper Mario is sticking to the new style.
What I'd give to get another Super Paper Mario, though. Many may have disliked it, but it was my favourite! c:
64 was the best one with TTYD on the same level. Fight me.
Toxicghosts22 i dont care
***** shut up no one on planet earth cares
You know for someone who doesn't care you sure act like I insulted your firstborn child.
Toxicghosts22 shut up i dont care
***** no alien actually cares
1:39 I like how you showed the credits.
First, there is xp in color splash, it'll give you more paint, that makes it easier to paint cards and thus do more damage to bosses. Also the gamepad isn't required. You can just use buttons if you choose that in the options.
I don't agree with your opinions, but I respect your thoughts on the subject.
This is who we need more of in society.
I like how you show the high points of color splash.
5:03 there is more story than just that like let’s talk about the villains plan.If you think about it the black pain’s plan is actually Way bigger than it seems. We learn in the game that the black paint is incredibly toxic and can easily kill someone as seen with Mario at sunglow ridge. We also know that the black paint can possess people as demonstrated with Bowser. We also know the black paint is made by mixing all the colors of the rainbow together. Now let’s look at the black paint’s plan. First the black paint possesses Bowser and using Bowser‘s army attacks Prisma Island. He gets his shy guy minions to suck up a bunch of paint from the island and then put the paint in buckets attached to airships. Then the air ships are taken to Bowser sky castle where are all of the paint is mixed into black paint then the black paint is put into black paint bombs. The black paint possessing Bowser throws the big paint stars all over the island so color cannot be restored he then gets Kamek to Get a paper toad drained of its color put a port prisma stamp on it and mail it to princess peach. Then Mario peach and a toad come to the island and black Bowser tries to get his minions to kill them but his minions fail so he sends the the koopalings to find and protect the big pain stars so Mario and Huey can’t get them remember this is not Bowser this is black Bowser Who is bowser being possessed by the black paint. Black Bowser then kidnaps peach just to demonstrate his power. Black Bowser wants to cover the entire world and black paint. That is what the game tells us but if we look a little deeper black Bowser’s plan has some devastating effects. If black Bowser has enough black paint bombs to cover the whole world black then he would kill everyone in the world because the black paint is highly toxic and then the black paint would possess everyone’s corpses making a new population to live on Earth.
Hey AntDude, I'm not sure if you've talked about Super Paper Mario for the Wii, but it has to be a video in the future! One of my favorites.
13:25 thats how washing mashines look in Europe
I completely agree with everything you said in this review. especially the part about thousands year door.
I subscribed because I smoked a bowl and you had me dying at the part you sorta laughed lmao
Ttyd is fun to play. The most fun to play of any paper mario game
I like both games...but controversy is about to commence
0:50
Me: *(Looks at dislikes)*
Me: "Mm did Ant have opinions again?"
Ant: "What is the verdict on the final first party Wii U exclusive?"
*(Music Stops)*
Ant: "...It's actually really good..."
Me: "OOOOOOHHHHH That's why..."
GREAT VIDEO. In my recent TYD run (where I brought my HP down to 5 and used danger mario tactics) I was started to feel some of the criticisms that you brought up about the linear levels. It's my favorite game of all time, no doubt, but I was still noticing some of its issues. I know color splash's battle system is awful, but I agree the levels were all really unique and fun and I walked away thinking it was a great game. If Origami King brings both of these elements to the table (battle system already looks more interesting) then I think we're all in for a treat!
We still need a proper kirby RPG. That would make everyone happy
agreed the messed up thing is is that we got one called super kirby clash
Let me guess: Thousand Year Door is gonna win.
Oh, the conclusion was actually a lot more interesting than I imagined.
Joseph Cross it was. And I think he is actually right. I have CS and the best memories with that game was the writing and the worlds.
You mean TTYD is the better game, right?
You better say yes.
They are equally good, neither is better than the other
***** Having a good story, characters, and gameplay is a lot more important than an excess amount of jokes and having fun making barely any progress in the game.
There’s one more game that we need to uncover...
The 6400? The colourrrrr? The tgfgfggc year dooooor? The super super paper man? Or do u mean the potato???
Or just the oriiiiiiiiiiiiiigamiiiiiiiiiii president trump?
I love these kinds of videos! 😄
WAIT WAIT WOAH WOAH WOAG WE CANT JUST SKIL BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAD SUPER PAPER MARIO CREDITS MUSIC AT THE END.
It's not Melee, though, so I dunno...
(In all seriousness, I love Color Splash too and I'm surprised that it got all of this criticism.)
Dude, wrong channel
I swear to God the last time I saw this channel it had about 5k subs
Thousand Year Door will always be my favourite (it was the first video game I ever owned), followed by Paper Mario and Super Paper Mario. Never played the other two and have no intention of doing so.
Bring back rawk hawk? Dude, you just made this dragon very happy
coming back here with the knowledge of paper mario not being allowed to make new characters is just... upsetting
I get what antdude is saying make a game like color splash (explorations not linear stages) and the battle system from TTYD (also the characters, story ect)
Now if they make it like that in a future paper Mario then I might buy it
color splash would be on one of my favorite games list since you can explore, the thing you are supposed to do is obvious a little bit so i dont have to look at a walkthrough just to learn i had to hammer a wall to open a secret passageway and then turning around and finding a pipe or something like that
an easy, fun game
The paper mario games after sticker star have been MAJOR improvements
K, maybe not that far but I'm sure in the next 10 years we'll get another paper mario rpg
Color Splash and Probably TOK are major improvements over Sticker Star
So... What was the point of the washing machine change between versions?
I was wondering that too unless they don't have machines that open on the top at all and just on the sides. Wild guess.
CrystalMoonStar I don't know... I've seen both.
Phacteria
I've seen both here in the US, but maybe Europe only has the one style maybe?
CrystalMoonStar I doubt it. I've seen both around the world.
Phacteria As living in Europe washing machines are generally side-door.
Why does no one know you can just use buttons to control everything in battle?
Wait, rlly?
How I love this man!
I loved everything thing in TTYD, it is my favorite game to this date. It is hard to get a copy without paying a lot.
First paper Mario game I got was sticker star so I grew up with a bad influence of the bunch. I can understand why a lot of people hate the direction that paper Mario is going in but I can’t find myself absolutely hating sticker star or the next two games. I know that it was originally supposed to be like a story book but over time it became more paper than RPG. But I originally thought that’s what paper Mario was all about. So yeah I guess sticker star kind of ruined me. But I’m really interested in the newer paper Mario titles I think it’s really interesting having that whole paper aesthetic.
11:35 But...but I LOVE the Koopalings! ;-;
They got personalities for their birthdays
There are overused So Nintendo does need to make original bosses but this is the one time I’m OK with them Because they have personalities this time
I hate koopalings because nintendo uses them in almost EVERY game, i'm tired of those idiots.
Honestly i would prefer original bosses or at least giant big mario baddies rather than the stupid koopalings.
For example Odyssey have the furry koopalings.
@@arturocastroverde3349 They're in less games than Birdo has been, they are in like 5.
@@asierx7047 but they're annoying!!!!!
Also birdo always works as a cameo not as a boss
10:50 I've like said this dozen times but sticker star's bosses do not require the thing stickers to be defeated yes without the thing stickers you're likely to die very easily to attacks like Gooper Blooper's poison attack but that attack can be skipped by crumpling blooper by using pow blocks and it's also a lot more fun to fight the bosses without thing stickers (also just gonna say making the koopalings have their own personality doesn't sound lazy to me they could've just made them be possessed by black paint and not speak but they made each of them have different personality)
Nice shirt. I have the same one! Awesome video. Made me remember the first time I played the original Paper Mario on the SNES
You mean Nintendo 64?
Mustafa Eren ATEŞ no. It was an SNES at a friend’s house.
Then you were playing Super Mario RPG.
Ok. Am I the only one who is actually happy for the Koopalings being in this game? Also, I never wanna hear someone say that the Koopalings shouldn't be in the Mario games anymore. They are a staple if the series as some of the oldest bosses in the series and are now actually developing a character to each of them in some of the RPG games. Now you want to throw them away hen we're actually getting character development with them? I thought that people love character developments. I get it, their bosses in the 2D games are not exactly the greatest and we're seeing them a lot more often, but the truth is that they aren't bad bosses, older fans of the series have just been getting too good at these games to where the bosses look too easy. How do you think the Koopaling fights might be like if you were a new player who hasn't really played the series before. Yeah. That was how I felt when I played my first Mario Games being NSmB DS/Wii, MKW, All Stars 25th Anniversary, and Galaxy 1 and 2. Some of the bosses including the Koopalings were just tough for me and would die plenty of times. Now, let's just hope that if they were in a main 3D Mario game that Nintendo would do it right.
I'm surprised that I didn't go on am entire rant about how all Paper Mario Games, including the ones I haven't played yet which was all but SPM and Color Splash, are actually good and Nintendo is just wanting to try something new with their games and not always keep the same things. I feel that a true Paper Mario game needs to have some sort of story, a battle system of some sort (SPM had it in a way), humor, and a diverse world to explore. That's what Paper Mario really is.
Good point. The koopalings never got easier. In fact, Ludwig seems harder after every game. look at SMM2, he just has the hardest to dodge attacks.
About character development, We really needed them in a Mario RPG, since that has the highest potential
The only reason I am OK with the koopalings In this game is because they actually have personality
Finally a positive paper mario colour splash review
2 words that describe color splash: artifical length.
Color splash forces you to run around searching for an example, the colored toads, they give very few pointers and directions to where to find them. Forcing you to run around blindly checking everything in a level several times, padding out the levels and adding a painful extra hour or two to the game for each one of these. It got to the point with me that I just gave up and looked up a guide after 4 hours of searching for the purple toads because it was required to get the item to beat morton. Now whether this is an isolated experience and im just not very good at finding secrets or something is up for debate. Plus unneeded extra paint stars that only really count for completion and no story progress once all the adjacent levels are unlocked. Like only needing 2-3 yellow paint stars for the first areas and there being an extra 3 laying about. Now sure, its ok to have optional stars if you cant find them all, but it left a pit in my stomach after finding all the area 1 blue stars and having it only account for 2 levels when there are about 4 stars, making me feel jipped for going after them with no reward.
The battle system is also as faulty as it can be, sometimes I feel my inputs went registering with the action commands even though I had experience with a lot of the same mechanics in TTYD, it was activating to feel like I timed it perfectly only to get the worst outcome of the attack. The card mechanic also makes it agonizing longer than needed, forcing you to scroll through the cards to find the exact one you need, now this wouldnt be as much of a problem if it didnt require the gamepad. Simple button imputs could have fixed the entire system but instead they had to make the gamepad seem useful so they made it touch controlled only. The idea you can only attack if you have enough paint was an ok idea, but really I just got rid of all my blank cards once the shop opened and bought all precolored cards, I had an abundance of coins from the stupid blank spots.
BACK TRACKING IS EVERYWHERE, and the game outright forces you to go back through levels if missing an item, like I had to climb morton's tower 5+ times because I thought I was just bad at the boss fight and didn't think I needed a special thing. Also in one case tells you to leave an item you KNOW will be needed later saying its not important. Forcing you to go back to the level after 2 stages or so to pick up that one item at the end.
The painting mechanic is unrewarding to say the least, coins, occasional cards and maybe being required once or twice a stage is not enough to make it worth while. Its more game lengthening busy work. Completionists like me feel frustrated when we spend a good extra 20 min in a level to fill all the blanks and still be missing 10% only to find the last part behind a tree or something.
The map is another thing, sure you can tackle things in any order if they are unlocked but it is still extremely linear and are just a 3d path ala super mario 3d world but boring. The visuals are at times TOO pretty and detailed masking over the somewhat charm the first 2 games had, everything being made of crafts and the constant cardboard textures just made me wish it wasnt there most of the time. TTYD had that kind of style too but it was sparingly which offered balanced and wasnt overly pretty or heavily shaded because it didn't need to be, its just a distraction in color splash and not very creative, getting boring by the 2nd area.
The comedy is stilted and just kinda... eeeh? I didnt have a single laugh and its a shame :l... it tries to pander to more familiar with the series, ie, the lost levels joke and alienates some more new/casual fans.
All in all it falls under the "its passable in some things but don't expect me to actually finish it" kind of game for me.
I thought you said 2 words?
*I still have this inside leaking, "We can't make a real Paper Mario due a rule", I still can't say who made this bullshit, but the damage it's so big that there's no turning back*