@MsMissy sad but true. Irish are lovely decent peple but incredibly gullible and naive with a strong dose of apathy too! Wakey wakey people. Ireland is largely gone. Do something quick.
I think so. WHO would health organisation arw also negotiating for more stringent lockdown rules in case they need to lock us down again all that currently being negotiatiated right now.
Its so sad to see what has become of my homeland. The heroes of 1916 would wonder what their sacrifices really stood for now. Zero backbone from a once proud fighting nation
They are attempting to pass a similar law in England. They don't want to stop illegal immigration, so are trying to make negative speech about immigration illegal 😂
@MsMissy is it? Check your facts before calling others a liar.. Reforms to the hate crime law: "Replacing the dwelling exemption with protection for private conversations to ensure they are exempted regardless of where they take place Explicit protection for “gender critical” views, criticism of foreign governments, and discussion of cultural practices, and *immigration, asylum* and citizenship policy"
@Pat Buckley Well, if you are doing evil and hurting others to benefit yourself, then you better pray God isn't real. Doesn't matter if you believe in God or not really as a human you should know what is good and what is evil and cruel, doesn't take a genius to know that. So let's leave God out of it for a second. Would you take a gun from someone and point it at your head and pull the trigger and hoping that the gun isn't loaded would you take that chance not knowing if that gun has bullets in it? Now if God is real and let say hell is real just saying if it is real are you willing to do evil and risk losing your soul because let's face it not one person on earth knows for a fact if God is real or not real until you die and once dead thats it. So really people that believe in God have nothing to lose if he isn't real. But people that do evil and are cruel better pray God isn't real because they have a soul to lose if he is real. Just something to think about.
@@becri567 Seriously? That's your answer? Brush decades of abuse under the carpet on the possibility that the state endorsed brand of religion is right. Virtue by fear. No thanks. It's just another form of censorship and control.
@@becri567 Absolutely Brilliantly Said/ Articulated/Written 👍 As A Believer myself In Jesus Christ/God I' too have allways said What has anyone to Lose in Believing in (((God))) But has everything to lose If they Dont (((✨God✨))) Exists 💥 💀☠️🕳️
well the only thing they understand is a taste of what happen in guerilla days in irland weve had this for 800 years we dont want anoter 800years of armed conflict get rid of those invaders
Here in the US there are calls for a boycott of travel/tourism to Ireland because of what Americans see as an attack on free speech. Who would want to visit a country with such laws, that is what a lot are saying. It looks like the Budweiser treatment for Ireland.
I'm Irish - live in Ireland - fully agree with you - in various ways South Africa was boycotted when it had Apartheid - I want to see - even though it will hurt some in the tourism sector - a boycott by Americans (and other nationalities) of my country if this Bill is enacted.
As Irish man I fear for for a world where are my two younger brother's are growing up in what they have to fear express themselves fear being locked up for having the wrong opinion weather moral or immoral
the problem isnt that it will be universally enforced. it can be selectively enforced on dissidents that are growing a voice. they wont care if mary down the road called someone a slur, but they will target the political dissidents that are being heard
An Irish person cannot say a word to the groups that will be protected but these groups can say alot to us. Plays well for Leo the liar and Roderick the groomer and the rest.
Banning hate speech is a slippery slope to banning nearly all speech because it's rude. Even saying "hi buddy" in a tone that someone may see off might get me jailed for hate speech next because I said it in a rude manner.
Where does this law leave the Irish Proclamation of Independence-?? This document is a pure form of incitement!! How can it be that incitement material be outlawed, but the display and reading aloud of the the Proclamation be permitted?? This government needs to state its position on the Proclamation of independence.
I am gay and have moved to Ireland from Hungary 2 years ago. I have moved here because I was fed up with the government's authoritarian tendencies over there. I have moved to the West because I thought the strength of the West is the freedom of thoughts, freedom of speech. That we can discuss matters here instead of calling eachother names like "fascist, communist, hater, missogynist". Maybe I was wrong. I really hope something can be done because this bill is clealy the straight footpath to a communist type spy terror state. We have tried it already on the East. It wasn't funny. Look at where those countries are right now. Just imagine one episode of South Park for example. Based on this bill it's a 20 minute straight criminal offence, not a satirical critisism of society what helps us to reflect on ourselves. I am gay. I don't wanna belong to any protected group. I just want to live like a normal person. I don't want to silence anyone who want to joke about my sexual orientation, or has anything against it. I don't want to oppress anyone's opinion. I refuse everyone who say they act in my behalf when limiting people's right to speak!
there are some dumb fucks that don't like change so they pick up stones and throw them at anything different. you are gay, you must be stoned, you are jewish, you must be stoned, you are muslim, you must be stoned, you put ketchup on pizza, you must be stoned, etc. How would you deal with those dumb fucks? how would you stop them from actually going out and throwing those stones?
How about you keep your sexual preferences for yourself? Maybe displaying your "difference" is the root cause, not the "difference" itself. There are brilliant pages in Levy-Strauss about the perception of differences and what he calls "xenophobia" (with its ancient Greek meaning, "disliking of what is different") being a natural trait of Human. I don't care what you are, until you throw it to my face. Twice. What you claim to be is your choice, it doesn't give you more rights to disrepect other people and their opinions, whatever they are, The Declaration of Human Rights starts by stating all Humans are born and remain equal in rights, don't try to be "more equal" by means of your "difference" in matters that are private to you. Axxording to Descartes, shutting up also a safer way of living, until you have MAPs tendancies as well. In that case, welcome to Ireland. BTW, my pronouns are Thou/Thee. With capitals and emphasis.
@@kunsagigyula8091 I read it, I'm just saying you shouldn't start any sentence with "I am gay": even if 99% of the people don't care any longer, stating your sexual preferences puts you at risk with the 1% remaining (non-negligeible on an island of 5 million people). Read "Les 4 règles de la morale provisoire" from Descartes and get inspired if you don't want to end up like Edward II... Especially in these times of anti-woke/anti-LGBTQAW+/MAPs insurrection.
@@RegisMichelLeclerc I agree. I shouldn't start any sentence with it... except if it adds to the topic I comment on... You know... it apl depends on the context 😉 Do you have any problem with the content of my comment other that that?
IRELAND -- the land of my birth. Past history steeped in blood, sweat, and endless tears. She must be CRYING all over again. We are back- tracking to the ""PENAL LAW'S - DAY'S "---Irishman- Woman----and Irish child- are once again the Forgotten people in her own land . Land
@@Prodrive1 Yes- Tom - truly tragic. My Grandfather Peter Hegarty played his part for Freedom. He was arrested in Boofeenaun - Co. Mayo - shot by the British and imprisoned. This can be checked out via documentation of that period 1923. It's bk to the PENAL LAW'S - and Irishmen And Women need to come TOGETHER and purge the Dáil and take our country back.. Diá dháoibh Thómáis agus Céad Béannachtaí. 🙏🇮🇪🙏🇮🇪🙏
@@Prodrive1 Have you read Article 42 of the Lisbon Treaty? Yup, your Politicians dumped Irish Neutrality in 2009 and is part of NATO since then. And, by the way, a month ago, Leo went to Kiev, gave 5 million euros to the best-paid actor in the world and signed the treaty giving "security guarantees" to Ukraine versus Russia... Yup, Leo declared war to Russia in the name of Ireland... You remember that animation on Russian TV when retaliating against UK would just wipe Ireland from the surface of the Atlantic? Well, you have the politicians you deserve, It could be worse, tho: Mary Lou...
Hate speech laws are a gate way just like it's a gateway to mandate sterilization for any disability, because it could lead to standards as minor as needing glasses to be sterilized.
They've been an anglophone country for almost 200 years now tbf, first as a defacto British province trying hard to assimilate with London, then a brief flirtation with self-determination and isolationism, then enthusiastically opening their economy to multinationals, reaping the financial rewards (except for the working classes I suppose) but beginning their journey from the 'not really British' anglos to the 'semi-American' anglos (not there yet but fast on the way, just listen to how the middle class children speak).
"Hayte" means any criticsm of various politicallly powerfulll pseudovictimzed demo'grphc grps banned. Its about rawpower for some and total sensaurship for others.
Being Irish isn't a protected characteristic though😅, its ethnic cultural replacement and if you speak about they have laws to shut you up and say you're "hateful"
The fct there are "protcted characterstics" in the firstplace shows that these grps are actuallly very powrful and able to get spe'cial lwws passed to their benefit. Hence they don't need spe'cial lwws.
possession criminalization is a clear overreach. but inciting violence is another story. for example, if I call the local school and threaten to burn it down, I can and should be arrested. I think I need to understand exactly in what context these potential laws could be enforced, to come to a conclusion about whether I agree with it or not.
@@DryWall-wd4eiThat's not what the actual Bill says though. You can be critical without being hateful or trying to incite violence. Please read the Bill and point out to me the exact lines you take issue with.
All this is and will filter down to is if you see an african or indeed any non Irish people bully threaten or even sexually assault an Irish child or woman it will be an offence to prevent this from happening. This is were it is heading
I've ALREADY EXPERIENCED this myself, being silenced from reporting abuse physical and 'other' from a foreign national...he was given ALL the PROTECTION and I was left where.my own country wouldn't even protect me from assault. He was treated like a lord. The country has gone upside down in regards to protecting its own citizens.
United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights: Article 19. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Have you ever believed in that BS? In the French version, it's Article 10, while Property is Article 2... And the "All Humans are born and remain equal in rights" from Article I... Seriously? Last time I read it, I was giggling all the way!
If you are a hetero normative cis person. You are essentially a second class citizen in your own country. "It's no longer "céad míle fáilte" but "Céad míle inscne"
Daniel o connell Wolfe tone robert emmett roger casement James connolly padraig pearse Michael Collins Joseph plunkett great heroes I wonder what they would make of the politicians of today
Freedom of speech is a basic right, but all rights also carry responsibilities. There are no absolute rights in this world, except the right to life, and some people don't even accept that. All other rights are qualified. We all have a right to freedom, but if we commit crimes we forfeit that right. Speech that incites hatred and physical attacks on others should not be tolerated.
No, Joe. This is not a vald argumnt what the isssue is. This is one side bannning politicall speeech of the other side. We live in a wrld today where ALL POLITCS IS "IDENTTY" POLTCS." If you say some identtities can't be critcizd, that's tyrnnny.
If these "victmzed" demogrphcs were actuallly "marginalzed" how are they able to get critcsm of themslves bnnd? If they aren't then why do they desrve to avoid anyone criticzng them?
The truth behind the HATE SPEECH BILL.. not what you think... my opinion ! HATE SPEECH LAW proposed by HELEN MCENTE, Ireland's JUSTICE MINISTER - In my opinion, this DRACONIAN 'HATE SPEECH LAW' comes 'in part,' for 2 REASONS from Helen McEntee: A) Her FATHER. Tragicaly Helen McEntee's father, the late Shane McEntee (RIP), very sadly took his own life in 2012, RIP & my SINCERE CONDOLENCES to Ms McEntee and her family. In the days after her father's death, it is reported that Shane McEntee's brother Gerry suggested: "ABUSE VIA SOCIAL MEDIA may have been a contributory factor," although it is reported that Ms. McEntee has denied this. Could this be why Ms McEntee wants to censor and silence Irish people's speech with a new hate law with DRACONIAN & FINANCIAL & LEGAL CONSEQUENCES for anyone ACCUSED of this hate.. a hate whichnI might add Ms McEntee cannot or REFUSES to DEFINE for law!!?? Begfars belief! Also Ms McEntee is constantly talking about CENSORING MEDIA on BASIS of MISINFORMATION and DISINFORMATION?! 😮 Part 2 B) Minister Helen McEntees HUSBAND: HELEN MCENTEE, Our ⚖️ JUSTICE MINISTER'S HUSBAND is Paul Hickey, who is a DIRECTOR for AbbVie (Ireland), a PHARMACEUTICAL company which it is reported SELLS PUBERTY BLOCKERS for CHILDREN who are TRANS or 'may' think / believe they are trans or may suffer from gender dysphoria. Puberty blockers can be given to CHILDREN as YOUNG AS 10 YEARS of age and are BANNED in MANY COUNTRIES, including ENGLAND'S RECENT BAN of PUBERTY BLOCKERS. Isn't this rather an MAJOR & DANGEROUS 'CONFLICT OF INTEREST' for Ireland's JUSTICE MINISTER, to be bringing in a NEW GENDER, (Without even ASKING the Irish people's OPINION or APPROVAL), (she is after all EMPLOYED by the Irish people, is she not?!), and a 'NEW DRACONIAN HATE SPEECH LAW' in which 'GENDER IDEOLOGY' WILL BE a PROTECTED CATEGORY!? All these proposed laws and HER very OWN HUSBAND is a DIRECTOR of a company that apparently SELLS PUBERTY blockers!?😮😱 Surely, this is a MAJOR & perhaps a dangerous CONFLICT OF INTEREST for the Irish people and CHILDREN 🤔 PUBERTY BLOCKERS, it is reported can make CHILDREN STERILE & can cause BLINDNESS & BRAIN SWELLING!! Given both A & B sections above, in my opinion I strongly SUSPECT HELEN MCENTEE has a 'MAJOR BIAS' that she 'MAY NOT' even be aware of, (at least one would hope this is the case) 😨 as a result of BOTH her 'FATHER and her HUSBAND', TWO VERY IMPORTANT men in HER LIFE.. that I SUSPECT in my opinion could strongly INFLUENCE her in an 'UNHEALTHY WAY' in her ROLE as JUSTICE MINISTER today. For the matter of HATE SPEECH LAW, CENSORING MEDIA & GENDER IDEOLOGY & it is my opinion and I strongly SUSPECT that Ms McEntee, Irelands 🇮🇪 Justice Minister has perhaps 'ISSUES' regarding CENSORING SPEECH & MEDIA of and for IRISH PEOPLE because 'PERHAPS' she has NOT in my opinion maybe NOT FULLY DEALT with the ISSUE & trauma of her FATHERS SUDDEN DEATH and is subconsciously TAKING it OUT on the IRISH PEOPLE by trying to SILENCE 🔕 and censor the people of Ireland now that SHE HAS the POWER of being JUSTICE MINISTER, by ATTEMPTING to finally SILENCE the PEOPLE of IRELAND 🇮🇪 in the way that 'SHE' wants and proposes to do with her NEW HATE SPEECH LAW & also CENSORING MEDIA. SECONDLY in the case of B. Ms. McEnree's HUSBAND is a COMPANY DIRECTOR for a pharmaceutical company that reportedly MAKES a PROFIT from puberty blockers for GENDER IDEOLOGY & the TRANS MOVEMENT!! 😮 A director of a company that reportedly MAKES PROFIT from SELLING PUBERTY BLOCKERS TO STOP the PUBERTY of CHILDREN as young as 10 yrs, who 'MAY or MAY NOT,' be trans. BOTH ISSUES are a SERIOUS & MAJOR BIAS & CONFLICT of INTEREST for the PEOPLE and more importantly the CHILDREN of IRELAND and THIS possible 'bias or CONFLICT of INTEREST' HAS to be TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY by the people of Ireland 🇮🇪 In the INTEREST of FAIRNESS, OBJECTIVITY, and the HEALTH & FREEDOM, LIVES, of the Irish PEOPLE & CHILDREN of Ireland, HELEN MCENTEE NEEDS to STEP DOWN & RESIGN her POST as JUSTICE MINISTER starting IMMEDIATELY. This is SERIOUSLY UNETHICAL 😱 Ms McEntee. In my opinion, it is 💯% UNETHICAL for any JUSTICE MINISTER to be MAKING LAWS when HER 'OWN HUSBAND' is a DIRECTOR of a FIRM that reportedly STANDS to BENIFIT FINANCIALLY 💰 from a new GENDER and a 'NEW' GENDER IDEOLOGY and the protection and censoring of DRACONIAN NEW HATE SPEECH law in which this is a protected category. Any law that Protects 'SOME PEOPLE and NOT OTHERS is a DISCRIMINATORY LAW. Therefore, this NEW DRACONIAN HATE SPEECH LAW is in EFFECT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST the IRISH PEOPLE whom Ms McEntee, I might add, is TEMPORARILY EMPLOYED by these 'same Irish people' she is THREATENING to SILENCE and CENSOR. IF this is NOT tyranny, I do not know what is!! 😱 "When government fears the people, thecre is LIBERTY. When the people fear the government, there is TYRANNY." In my opinion Ms McEntee's HATE SPEECH LAW & CENSORING IRISH PEOPLE in speech & MEDIA is a RESULT of the RELATIONSHIPS she has had with BOTH her FATHERS tragic sudden death, and her HUSBANDS CAREERS position. Helen McEntee NEEDS to RESIGN immediately, & ALLOW the IRISH PEOPLE and CHILDREN to have an UNBIASED, OBJECTIVE JUSTICE MINISTER who can fulfil the duties of this position without a MAJOR & DANGEROUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST as Mc McEntee has in my opinion. It's the LEAST the IRISH PEOPLE & CHILDREN of IRELAND have a RIGHT TO. PLEASE 🙏 do the RIGHT THING Minister McEntee & RESIGN immediately. Thank you Ireland 🇮🇪 ❤
If someone says something that is not true, and causes significant damage and loss, then yes they should be dealt with in the courts and given the penalty/punishment they deserve. That will show everyone the truth of a matter. I encourage everyone to use the law. This includes myself. Anyone should be held accountable if they say things that are not true. So, use the courts. We don't want terrible people on our streets.
it is not against free speech but against hate, just people need to love each other doesn’t matter what nationality, religion, race and financial status they have.Also to respect your government and laws.
And love rainbows and elves and free hugs.. yay.. let's all be over sensitive and cry at sunsets. This will make people angry. Watch how the government will abuse the Shít out of this.
jesus the naievity of this comment cant actually be understated, you actually trust the fucking government to decide whats hateful?? and even if it is hateful so fucking what?? its already against the law to incite people to violence, these are words, on the internet. If you think people that disagree with you shouldnt have free speech youre against free speech, thats the whole fucking point of it. We're circling the drain of an authoritarian state and if you think that this law cant easily be twisted by the next party in power to include things you think and say as "hate" i dont know what to say, read a book
Will the South of Ireland allow this to continue? I know in the North we won't allow it. Maybe it's time Ireland joined the UK. After all England is full of Southern Irish. Come on in and make yourselves feel more comfortable
"Hateful" = everything the government doesn’t like. The Irish better fight like hell to prevent this totalitarian takeover.
Agreed.
Sounds like a hateful comment, isn't it?
0:53: "Governments don't have to imperil free speech to fight hate."
Why do governments have to fight hate in the first place: is it illegal?
Irish people wake up, politicians do not represent you or have your best interests in mind.
Irish people are incredibly naive.
@MsMissy sad but true. Irish are lovely decent peple but incredibly gullible and naive with a strong dose of apathy too! Wakey wakey people. Ireland is largely gone. Do something quick.
@@msmissy6888 donkey we do know, the leaders are slaves to the E.U
Based on what? Why do people condone violence in the name of bigotry?
Isn't saying that an incitation to violence and hatred? I'll call the gardaì...
This is disturbing.
Ireland's elected leaders have to keep the bosses in Brussels happy.
Last time I checked it's China that owns Ireland.
WE SHOULD HAVE LEFT THIS COMMIE STATE WHEN ENGLAND DID AND REFORMAED THE BRITISH ILSES ONCE MORE
Installed. Not elected.
I think so. WHO would health organisation arw also negotiating for more stringent lockdown rules in case they need to lock us down again all that currently being negotiatiated right now.
@@sarahmurphy-nf4yl they just mite as well pit us ALL in jail and be done with it
Its so sad to see what has become of my homeland.
The heroes of 1916 would wonder what their sacrifices really stood for now.
Zero backbone from a once proud fighting nation
85% of Irish are weak and apathetic. Sad naive bunch with no fight in them. Bad days ahead as a result.
Agree
Why tf are we allowing the government to pick what's hateful!!
It's basically the State sanctioned bullying and harassment, since laws are never applied equally.
Precisely.
Un accountable EU controllers and ever increasingly adopting Chinese values and levels of freedom not great for future generations.
They are attempting to pass a similar law in England. They don't want to stop illegal immigration, so are trying to make negative speech about immigration illegal 😂
@MsMissy is it? Check your facts before calling others a liar.. Reforms to the hate crime law:
"Replacing the dwelling exemption with protection for private conversations to ensure they are exempted regardless of where they take place
Explicit protection for “gender critical” views, criticism of foreign governments, and discussion of cultural practices, and *immigration, asylum* and citizenship policy"
They really are you know 🤷🏻
You're totally right squeeky 👍
The Irish need to go to supreme
Court !
True
It’s time for Irish people to stand up for God and Country, the Irish Martyrs didn’t die for their people to be shut up 🇮🇪✝️☘️🕊
You can leave the religion out. We've had enough of that control and abuse too.
@@patbuckley5607 yes there is no such thing as religion, it’s man made , to control us wakey wakey 💚🤍🧡🇮🇪
@Pat Buckley Well, if you are doing evil and hurting others to benefit yourself, then you better pray God isn't real. Doesn't matter if you believe in God or not really as a human you should know what is good and what is evil and cruel, doesn't take a genius to know that. So let's leave God out of it for a second. Would you take a gun from someone and point it at your head and pull the trigger and hoping that the gun isn't loaded would you take that chance not knowing if that gun has bullets in it? Now if God is real and let say hell is real just saying if it is real are you willing to do evil and risk losing your soul because let's face it not one person on earth knows for a fact if God is real or not real until you die and once dead thats it. So really people that believe in God have nothing to lose if he isn't real. But people that do evil and are cruel better pray God isn't real because they have a soul to lose if he is real. Just something to think about.
@@becri567 Seriously? That's your answer? Brush decades of abuse under the carpet on the possibility that the state endorsed brand of religion is right. Virtue by fear. No thanks. It's just another form of censorship and control.
@@becri567 Absolutely Brilliantly Said/ Articulated/Written 👍 As A Believer myself In Jesus Christ/God I' too have allways said What has anyone to Lose in Believing in (((God))) But has everything to lose If they Dont (((✨God✨))) Exists 💥 💀☠️🕳️
"We have to restrict free speech to.......protect democracy....."
Confront your local politicians now and let them know that your totally against this bill and anything like it or we’ll reap the consequences.
well the only thing they understand is a taste of what happen in guerilla days in irland weve had this for 800 years we dont want anoter 800years of armed conflict get rid of those invaders
We have in the strongest terms. Told them this aint on.
Scotland already have something like this and the UK as something like this. It is very bad
Here in the US there are calls for a boycott of travel/tourism to Ireland because of what Americans see as an attack on free speech. Who would want to visit a country with such laws, that is what a lot are saying. It looks like the Budweiser treatment for Ireland.
Do not visit Ireland or buy products made in Ireland as the country is given over to satanism
Yes I'm Irish person living in UK more than half my life, I even agree with you. We should let the Irish government cowards know.
Could you please give more information?
I'm Irish - live in Ireland - fully agree with you - in various ways South Africa was boycotted when it had Apartheid - I want to see - even though it will hurt some in the tourism sector - a boycott by Americans (and other nationalities) of my country if this Bill is enacted.
I'm living in Ireland and would recommend that no Americans visit, invest, buying any product made in Ireland.
Great now I won’t be able to tell outsiders how dreadfully run this county is
As Irish man I fear for for a world where are my two younger brother's are growing up in what they have to fear express themselves fear being locked up for having the wrong opinion weather moral or immoral
It's time to get out of the EU
Boycott Boycott Boycott Ireland please if they do this❤
Sad to see Ireland fall to fascism
Irishmen and Irishwomen: remember that the people doing this to you have names and addresses, and can be visited.
The Irish voted themselves into this mess, and need to vote themselves out.
So true. Eejits.
💯correct, Ireland has become the test bed for the EUs ideologies!
@@thefeckineejit264 guinea pigs as usual.
They were Tricked into it when they voted for abortion laws no one read the end part about hate speech
Leo Varadkar, WEF's man in Dublin following orders!
When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. If they control ur speech they control ur mind.
The irish will rise.
I don’t want politicians dictating my speech especially these ones
The Great Reset on the way.
We fought 2 world wars for free speech. Let people speak and be challenged - normal debate should be allowed.
The First World War had nothing to do with freedom or free speech
No ..the last war was fought for Globalism and Marxism
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Clare Daly. The voice of oppressed...long life☘️
Stop Irish genocide🇮🇪☘️❤️
Great video, sad but more Irish people are oblivious
Even if not oblivious they support this stuff
Harry. Not at all oblivious but too scared of the woke brigade to speak out!
1984
No one will comply, it’s going to be ridiculously hard to police anyway
the problem isnt that it will be universally enforced. it can be selectively enforced on dissidents that are growing a voice. they wont care if mary down the road called someone a slur, but they will target the political dissidents that are being heard
An Irish person cannot say a word to the groups that will be protected but these groups can say alot to us. Plays well for Leo the liar and Roderick the groomer and the rest.
@@verali164 pretty soon it will be illegal to call a pxdophile a pxdophile
Can make up a few names,
Much easier than catching thieves and real criminals. No ,a special unit will be set up and anybody can be harassed.
Banning hate speech is a slippery slope to banning nearly all speech because it's rude.
Even saying "hi buddy" in a tone that someone may see off might get me jailed for hate speech next because I said it in a rude manner.
Ireland for the Irish...Stop the boats now...
Going back to dark ages...
Where does this law leave the Irish Proclamation of Independence-?? This document is a pure form of incitement!! How can it be that incitement material be outlawed, but the display and reading aloud of the the Proclamation be permitted?? This government needs to state its position on the Proclamation of independence.
They could be done for treason ,these a treasonous acts.
I am gay and have moved to Ireland from Hungary 2 years ago. I have moved here because I was fed up with the government's authoritarian tendencies over there. I have moved to the West because I thought the strength of the West is the freedom of thoughts, freedom of speech. That we can discuss matters here instead of calling eachother names like "fascist, communist, hater, missogynist".
Maybe I was wrong. I really hope something can be done because this bill is clealy the straight footpath to a communist type spy terror state. We have tried it already on the East. It wasn't funny. Look at where those countries are right now.
Just imagine one episode of South Park for example. Based on this bill it's a 20 minute straight criminal offence, not a satirical critisism of society what helps us to reflect on ourselves.
I am gay. I don't wanna belong to any protected group. I just want to live like a normal person. I don't want to silence anyone who want to joke about my sexual orientation, or has anything against it. I don't want to oppress anyone's opinion. I refuse everyone who say they act in my behalf when limiting people's right to speak!
there are some dumb fucks that don't like change so they pick up stones and throw them at anything different. you are gay, you must be stoned, you are jewish, you must be stoned, you are muslim, you must be stoned, you put ketchup on pizza, you must be stoned, etc.
How would you deal with those dumb fucks? how would you stop them from actually going out and throwing those stones?
How about you keep your sexual preferences for yourself? Maybe displaying your "difference" is the root cause, not the "difference" itself. There are brilliant pages in Levy-Strauss about the perception of differences and what he calls "xenophobia" (with its ancient Greek meaning, "disliking of what is different") being a natural trait of Human. I don't care what you are, until you throw it to my face. Twice. What you claim to be is your choice, it doesn't give you more rights to disrepect other people and their opinions, whatever they are, The Declaration of Human Rights starts by stating all Humans are born and remain equal in rights, don't try to be "more equal" by means of your "difference" in matters that are private to you. Axxording to Descartes, shutting up also a safer way of living, until you have MAPs tendancies as well. In that case, welcome to Ireland.
BTW, my pronouns are Thou/Thee. With capitals and emphasis.
@@RegisMichelLeclerc How about you read my comment a little better 😉
You are staying the same thing as me
@@kunsagigyula8091 I read it, I'm just saying you shouldn't start any sentence with "I am gay": even if 99% of the people don't care any longer, stating your sexual preferences puts you at risk with the 1% remaining (non-negligeible on an island of 5 million people). Read "Les 4 règles de la morale provisoire" from Descartes and get inspired if you don't want to end up like Edward II... Especially in these times of anti-woke/anti-LGBTQAW+/MAPs insurrection.
@@RegisMichelLeclerc I agree. I shouldn't start any sentence with it... except if it adds to the topic I comment on... You know... it apl depends on the context 😉
Do you have any problem with the content of my comment other that that?
IRELAND -- the land of my birth. Past history steeped in blood, sweat, and endless tears. She must be CRYING all over again. We are back- tracking to the ""PENAL LAW'S - DAY'S "---Irishman- Woman----and Irish child- are once again the Forgotten people in her own land . Land
Truly disturbing what is happening to Ireland. We have been betrayed so many times and still stay hush. So sad it is depressing actually.
@@Prodrive1 Yes- Tom - truly tragic. My Grandfather Peter Hegarty played his part for Freedom. He was arrested in Boofeenaun - Co. Mayo - shot by the British and imprisoned. This can be checked out via documentation of that period 1923. It's bk to the PENAL LAW'S - and Irishmen And Women need to come TOGETHER and purge the Dáil and take our country back.. Diá dháoibh Thómáis agus Céad Béannachtaí. 🙏🇮🇪🙏🇮🇪🙏
@@carmelhegarty9829 💚🤍🧡🇮🇪
@@sst6358 Go ráibh mháith agat SST---- Céad Béannachtaí agus Grá. 🙏🇮🇪🙏
@@Prodrive1 Have you read Article 42 of the Lisbon Treaty? Yup, your Politicians dumped Irish Neutrality in 2009 and is part of NATO since then. And, by the way, a month ago, Leo went to Kiev, gave 5 million euros to the best-paid actor in the world and signed the treaty giving "security guarantees" to Ukraine versus Russia... Yup, Leo declared war to Russia in the name of Ireland... You remember that animation on Russian TV when retaliating against UK would just wipe Ireland from the surface of the Atlantic? Well, you have the politicians you deserve, It could be worse, tho: Mary Lou...
Hate speech laws are a gate way just like it's a gateway to mandate sterilization for any disability, because it could lead to standards as minor as needing glasses to be sterilized.
Down Syndrome people obviously should be sterilized? Do you not agree?
Political parties and their families and relatives are getting well paid for this WEF agenda. Follow the money 💰.
This happening all around the world. Shocking show
If these "victimzed demogrphc grps" were really "marginalzed" they wouldn't be getting any criticsm of themslves outtlawed.
Tyranny must be resisted
Um what!!!!
I'm not Irish but the Irish people just needs to state they are offended by the Quran. It is riddled with hate speech against non-followers. Job done!
But then the Irish person would be locked up for Islamophobia...
"For what died the sons of Roisin"?
You employ the government. It is time you told these servants how it is going to be.
Don’t allow it Ireland
The Irish have become more Anglo than the Anglos themselves.
They've been an anglophone country for almost 200 years now tbf, first as a defacto British province trying hard to assimilate with London, then a brief flirtation with self-determination and isolationism, then enthusiastically opening their economy to multinationals, reaping the financial rewards (except for the working classes I suppose) but beginning their journey from the 'not really British' anglos to the 'semi-American' anglos (not there yet but fast on the way, just listen to how the middle class children speak).
"Hayte" means any criticsm of various politicallly powerfulll pseudovictimzed demo'grphc grps banned. Its about rawpower for some and total sensaurship for others.
Wouldn’t this bill also criminalise the Bible?
At least one good thing will come out of it then
Being Irish isn't a protected characteristic though😅, its ethnic cultural replacement and if you speak about they have laws to shut you up and say you're "hateful"
that they will never do a guerilla campaign would scare them like back in michael collins day and it will happen
@@barryahern6645 I wish they are replacing us and becoming a minority in our own country is not going to be good for us
The fct there are "protcted characterstics" in the firstplace shows that these grps are actuallly very powrful and able to get spe'cial lwws passed to their benefit. Hence they don't need spe'cial lwws.
If these "protectd characterstic" grps were really "marginalzed" they wouldn't be able to get criticsm of their grps outlwed.
This is to brimg more mooney in for corts and gur.
possession criminalization is a clear overreach. but inciting violence is another story. for example, if I call the local school and threaten to burn it down, I can and should be arrested. I think I need to understand exactly in what context these potential laws could be enforced, to come to a conclusion about whether I agree with it or not.
Its not complicayted. If you say anything remottely critical of any of the spcial demogrphc grps that get special rghts because of imagnary victmhood.
You can't criticze selectd specialdemographic grps in anyway, even though many of these grps have masssve politcal powr.
@@DryWall-wd4eiThat's not what the actual Bill says though. You can be critical without being hateful or trying to incite violence.
Please read the Bill and point out to me the exact lines you take issue with.
Mnā na hÉireann are with you all the way Carmel well said 💯 siochan leat 🙏🙏🙏🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
IIRC, the "mnà na hEiran" have promised to kill me, that's the first 2 verses of the song...
This comes as no surprise and is a verry serious matter
If we want this to fail, post your phones to the dail. It ends there..
Evil fruit from evil leaders.
Wait until our meath minister gets going with hete speech ....whatever that is??
Just say what ya want. They will just pick a couple of cases to make examples of then dump it because they dont have the resources to prosecute
Will that cover Trans ideology as well? That incites violence and hate.
If I read out verses from a certain religious book would I be arrested for hate speech???
All this is and will filter down to is if you see an african or indeed any non Irish people bully threaten or even sexually assault an Irish child or woman it will be an offence to prevent this from happening. This is were it is heading
I've ALREADY EXPERIENCED this myself, being silenced from reporting abuse physical and 'other' from a foreign national...he was given ALL the PROTECTION and I was left where.my own country wouldn't even protect me from assault. He was treated like a lord. The country has gone upside down in regards to protecting its own citizens.
If these "victimzed demogrphc grps" were really "marginalzed" they wouldn't be able to get criticsm of themslves outtlawed.
Is Ireland also becoming communist, who decides these things?
Marxists in their government.
Treason
United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights: Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Have you ever believed in that BS? In the French version, it's Article 10, while Property is Article 2... And the "All Humans are born and remain equal in rights" from Article I... Seriously? Last time I read it, I was giggling all the way!
smiling is illegal next, laughter will get you hard time
Try to protect children from child molesters will be against the law before you know it
Tyranny
Absolute truth.
It's bad again 😔
Evil wants to rein
Mmm and Google, Facebook and others are out of Dublin. Conveniently.
GOVERNMENTS DON'T HAVE TO IMPEDE FREE SPEECH TO FIGHT HATE. EXACTLY 💯
The sooner the economic storm hits the better. People will pay attention then.
What about unfounded accusations of Transphobia, Racism or Sexism will this also be considered hate speech??
If you are a hetero normative cis person. You are essentially a second class citizen in your own country. "It's no longer "céad míle fáilte" but "Céad míle inscne"
Daniel o connell Wolfe tone robert emmett roger casement James connolly padraig pearse Michael Collins Joseph plunkett great heroes I wonder what they would make of the politicians of today
There will be a new cast for our 2nd rising 🤝
#StopCensorship What would've happened if this law was in place in 1916? This is a very bad idea.
Guess what happens in all Europe on the 25th of August?
Freedom of speech is a basic right, but all rights also carry responsibilities. There are no absolute rights in this world, except the right to life, and some people don't even accept that. All other rights are qualified. We all have a right to freedom, but if we commit crimes we forfeit that right. Speech that incites hatred and physical attacks on others should not be tolerated.
No, Joe. This is not a vald argumnt what the isssue is. This is one side bannning politicall speeech of the other side. We live in a wrld today where ALL POLITCS IS "IDENTTY" POLTCS." If you say some identtities can't be critcizd, that's tyrnnny.
Why cherrry pick this to bann? How about bannning blasphmy or pporn or sehks? Why is this the one thing worth bannning? Gee, I wondrr.
The rght to be freee from criticsm as a demogrphc grp is then also "quallified." See, we can ply this gme too.
You know perfctly welll that's not what this ludicrs lww is about.
If these "victmzed" demogrphcs were actuallly "marginalzed" how are they able to get critcsm of themslves bnnd? If they aren't then why do they desrve to avoid anyone criticzng them?
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Is not casualties Canada 🇨🇦 is doing the same
Are u sure ? Banned trvmp is aok
Where is Sinn Fein on this is eurofascism? There is no such thing as hate speech it is simply censorship.
Shinners voted for this tyranny. Wasters.
"human rights" lmao
This new legaslatin is like when the Irish state sencored sinn Fein in the past
If you must have music, at least use less frivolous music in the background for such a serious subject.
Whose the girl presenting this show? She's cute.
The Irish are the most woke in the western world.
Or at least that's what the government wants us to be
We are the Canada of Europe.
@@thisaintmyname3175
Many Irish will be criminalised as "hate criminals" and will suffer the consequences of this, the new Penal Laws.
And getting more woke each day sadly.
Ill die ,before i go to jail for speaking the truth.
The truth behind the HATE SPEECH BILL.. not what you think... my opinion !
HATE SPEECH LAW proposed by HELEN MCENTE, Ireland's JUSTICE MINISTER -
In my opinion, this DRACONIAN 'HATE SPEECH LAW' comes 'in part,' for 2 REASONS from Helen McEntee:
A) Her FATHER.
Tragicaly Helen McEntee's father, the late Shane McEntee (RIP), very sadly took his own life in 2012, RIP & my SINCERE CONDOLENCES to Ms McEntee and her family.
In the days after her father's death, it is reported that Shane McEntee's brother Gerry suggested:
"ABUSE VIA SOCIAL MEDIA may have been a contributory factor," although it is reported that Ms. McEntee has denied this.
Could this be why Ms McEntee wants to censor and silence Irish people's speech with a new hate law with DRACONIAN & FINANCIAL & LEGAL CONSEQUENCES for anyone ACCUSED of this hate.. a hate whichnI might add Ms McEntee cannot or REFUSES to DEFINE for law!!?? Begfars belief!
Also Ms McEntee is constantly talking about CENSORING MEDIA on BASIS of MISINFORMATION and DISINFORMATION?! 😮
Part 2
B) Minister Helen McEntees HUSBAND:
HELEN MCENTEE, Our ⚖️ JUSTICE MINISTER'S HUSBAND is Paul Hickey, who is a DIRECTOR for AbbVie (Ireland), a PHARMACEUTICAL company which it is reported SELLS PUBERTY BLOCKERS for CHILDREN who are TRANS or 'may' think / believe they are trans or may suffer from gender dysphoria.
Puberty blockers can be given to CHILDREN as YOUNG AS 10 YEARS of age and are BANNED in MANY COUNTRIES, including ENGLAND'S RECENT BAN of PUBERTY BLOCKERS.
Isn't this rather an MAJOR & DANGEROUS 'CONFLICT OF INTEREST' for Ireland's JUSTICE MINISTER, to be bringing in a NEW GENDER,
(Without even ASKING the Irish people's OPINION or APPROVAL), (she is after all EMPLOYED by the Irish people, is she not?!),
and
a 'NEW DRACONIAN HATE SPEECH LAW' in which 'GENDER IDEOLOGY' WILL BE a PROTECTED CATEGORY!?
All these proposed laws and HER very OWN HUSBAND is a DIRECTOR of a company that apparently SELLS PUBERTY blockers!?😮😱
Surely, this is a MAJOR & perhaps a dangerous CONFLICT OF INTEREST for the Irish people and CHILDREN 🤔
PUBERTY BLOCKERS, it is reported can make CHILDREN STERILE & can cause BLINDNESS & BRAIN SWELLING!!
Given both A & B sections above, in my opinion I strongly SUSPECT HELEN MCENTEE has a 'MAJOR BIAS' that she 'MAY NOT' even be aware of, (at least one would hope this is the case) 😨 as a result of BOTH her 'FATHER and her HUSBAND', TWO VERY IMPORTANT men in HER LIFE.. that I SUSPECT in my opinion could strongly INFLUENCE her in an 'UNHEALTHY WAY' in her ROLE as JUSTICE MINISTER today.
For the matter of HATE SPEECH LAW, CENSORING MEDIA & GENDER IDEOLOGY & it is my opinion and I strongly SUSPECT that Ms McEntee, Irelands 🇮🇪 Justice Minister has perhaps 'ISSUES' regarding CENSORING SPEECH & MEDIA of and for IRISH PEOPLE because 'PERHAPS' she has NOT in my opinion maybe NOT FULLY DEALT with the ISSUE & trauma of her FATHERS SUDDEN DEATH and is subconsciously TAKING it OUT on the IRISH PEOPLE by trying to SILENCE 🔕 and censor the people of Ireland now that SHE HAS the POWER of being JUSTICE MINISTER,
by ATTEMPTING to finally SILENCE the PEOPLE of IRELAND 🇮🇪 in the way that 'SHE' wants and proposes to do with her NEW HATE SPEECH LAW & also CENSORING MEDIA.
SECONDLY in the case of B. Ms. McEnree's HUSBAND is a COMPANY DIRECTOR for a pharmaceutical company that reportedly MAKES a PROFIT from puberty blockers for GENDER IDEOLOGY & the TRANS MOVEMENT!! 😮
A director of a company that reportedly MAKES PROFIT from SELLING PUBERTY BLOCKERS TO STOP the PUBERTY of CHILDREN as young as 10 yrs, who 'MAY or MAY NOT,' be trans.
BOTH ISSUES are a SERIOUS & MAJOR BIAS & CONFLICT of INTEREST for the PEOPLE and more importantly the CHILDREN of IRELAND and THIS possible 'bias or CONFLICT of INTEREST' HAS to be TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY by the people of Ireland 🇮🇪
In the INTEREST of FAIRNESS, OBJECTIVITY, and the HEALTH & FREEDOM, LIVES, of the Irish PEOPLE & CHILDREN of Ireland,
HELEN MCENTEE NEEDS to STEP DOWN & RESIGN her
POST as JUSTICE MINISTER
starting IMMEDIATELY.
This is SERIOUSLY UNETHICAL 😱 Ms McEntee.
In my opinion, it is 💯% UNETHICAL for any JUSTICE MINISTER to be MAKING LAWS when HER 'OWN HUSBAND' is a DIRECTOR of a FIRM that reportedly STANDS to BENIFIT FINANCIALLY 💰 from a new GENDER and a 'NEW' GENDER IDEOLOGY and the protection and censoring of DRACONIAN NEW HATE SPEECH law in which this is a protected category.
Any law that Protects 'SOME PEOPLE and NOT OTHERS is a DISCRIMINATORY LAW.
Therefore, this NEW DRACONIAN HATE SPEECH LAW is in EFFECT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST the IRISH PEOPLE whom Ms McEntee, I might add, is TEMPORARILY EMPLOYED by these 'same Irish people' she is THREATENING to SILENCE and CENSOR.
IF this is NOT tyranny, I do not know what is!! 😱
"When government fears the people, thecre is LIBERTY. When the people fear the government, there is TYRANNY."
In my opinion Ms McEntee's HATE SPEECH LAW & CENSORING IRISH PEOPLE in speech & MEDIA is a RESULT of the RELATIONSHIPS she has had with BOTH her FATHERS tragic sudden death, and her HUSBANDS CAREERS position.
Helen McEntee NEEDS to RESIGN immediately,
& ALLOW the IRISH PEOPLE and CHILDREN to have an UNBIASED, OBJECTIVE JUSTICE MINISTER
who can fulfil the duties of this position without a MAJOR & DANGEROUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST as Mc McEntee has in my opinion.
It's the LEAST the IRISH PEOPLE & CHILDREN of IRELAND have a RIGHT TO.
PLEASE 🙏
do the RIGHT THING Minister McEntee & RESIGN immediately.
Thank you
Ireland 🇮🇪
❤
Does that include the bible
Yes very good question
@@sst6358 thank you.... but it is what it's all about... Leviticus will get you shot... twice
Without a doubt, yes!
Give up your right to arms, and you have to expect the methodical taking of every other right.
I will say what i fuckin want when I want they can say or do whatever they want to me . Ireland for the Irish
Well said🎉
Love it dissension in the ranks love that Irish dissention
Nice on Robbie a Taste of guerilla days in irland thats someting they cant beat you cannot beat it
TRUP 2024
TRUMP 2024
Welcome to the western "liberal democracy".
They're not liberals they commies!
They fear people like me who don't fear them..We gave them that power we can take it back ..
How long before the Bible is forbidden material?
I mean, that is the ultimate goal of this legislation.
If someone says something that is not true, and causes significant damage and loss, then yes they should be dealt with in the courts and given the penalty/punishment they deserve. That will show everyone the truth of a matter. I encourage everyone to use the law. This includes myself. Anyone should be held accountable if they say things that are not true. So, use the courts. We don't want terrible people on our streets.
We already have defamatiin laws
Um, frst off there are disagreeements over what is "true" and secndly, who decides what's "true" or not?
Who decides what's "true"?
Ironic since the whole idea of courts is because its often not clear what is "true" or not, even juries can't always agreee.
The same people that shouted Ireland for the Irish, have given Ireland away and oppressing the few Irish left. Think about it
The idea of talking about free speech on youtube is ironic.
it is not against free speech but against hate, just people need to love each other doesn’t matter what nationality, religion, race and financial status they have.Also to respect your government and laws.
And love rainbows and elves and free hugs.. yay.. let's all be over sensitive and cry at sunsets. This will make people angry. Watch how the government will abuse the Shít out of this.
jesus the naievity of this comment cant actually be understated, you actually trust the fucking government to decide whats hateful?? and even if it is hateful so fucking what?? its already against the law to incite people to violence, these are words, on the internet. If you think people that disagree with you shouldnt have free speech youre against free speech, thats the whole fucking point of it. We're circling the drain of an authoritarian state and if you think that this law cant easily be twisted by the next party in power to include things you think and say as "hate" i dont know what to say, read a book
You're delusional.
Will the South of Ireland allow this to continue? I know in the North we won't allow it. Maybe it's time Ireland joined the UK. After all England is full of Southern Irish. Come on in and make yourselves feel more comfortable
Being Irish and being a slave seem to go hand in hand. Never go to Ireland
Nor Canada, horrible leadership there too.