What Happens When You Destroy Your Voice?!
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- I always find discussion about voices interesting, so today I'm having a look at a video of Miley Cyrus discussing how her voice has drastically changed over the years, and why! I had to get surgery on my voice before, I was scared I wouldn't be able to speak or sing again! However, you end up learning a lot about how to take of it.
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Could you make a tuturial or warm up how to hit high notes?🤗
You've got 2 weeks between DC and Berlin, add a date in NC on the 24th or something, just for me! I'm not selfish at all, nope, I'm clearly saying this for the greater good! 😉
See you in 3Olympia Dublin 🎸🤘🚀
@@R_SENAL We gotta spend some time with our children in between the tours!
Oh how I wish you had a Tucson date - the Rialto would be a great gig, University of Arizona just a hop skip jump away… artist/creative community, blue island in a swamp of red.
Her Jolene cover off of her backyard sessions was a turning point for me. I seriously did not know she had that in her. Then the collab with Billy Idol and everything that came after.
She is a force to be reckoned with.
Dolly Parton is her godmother....I'd bet they've sang that together at some point 😄
I've been sitting here like "why hasn't she made a rock album yet?" Or just a cover album I'd be happy with. I don't think she's made for pop, she's made for rock honestly 😭
@@Kazza_8240theres a lot of videos of dolly & miley singing this live! you should check it out. they even both hosted miley’s new years show for 2023
@@benamisai-kham5892check out Plastic Hearts. its the closest thing to a miley rock album with collabs from Joan Jett, Stevie Nicks & Billy Idol
@@benamisai-kham5892Rock or country, even a mash of both honestly
The live theme tune intros & outros bring joy, excitement and awe. Please do not replace with a recording.
Plus, he's a f***in' musician. It's what he does best. No recording could ever convey the same amount of raw emotion as a live performance.
I love the intros and outros being live every time!
Compared to other channels it's fantastic and unique.
And he does it slightly differently every time, reflecting his mood, emotion, and occasionally a mistake or a flourish.
agree!
I think it's a great sub-topic to the autotune issue. Miley is one of those singers who might have lost range and clarity, but her voice has gained so much character and personality by now being more 'imperfect'. There's so much more humanity to the sound of a voice that isn't pristine.
@@creamwobblysettle petal 😂
@@creamwobbly Way to generalize there. And Vince simply can't sing anymore, which is a very different issue.
@@creamwobbly Vince and Miley are apples and oranges, my man...
I think you nailed it. Whatever's not pristine and perfect is deliciously human...
@@creamwobblywhat about ren punk?
Thank you for this Justin. I had a vocal injury for 10 years - a cyst on my vocal cords, that was difficult to spot/diagnose. Manifested in me losing my voice every other day, and it often hurting to speak. It was an incredibly isolating, upsetting chapter of my life. Especially as an aspiring actor. Now 3 years post surgery and speech therapy, healthy and recovered voice - I never take it for granted!
I think Miley comes across really well for a kid that's lived her entire life under a lens. Her music isn't my bag but she's unquestionably got a fantastic voice. Fair play to the lass, I hope she keeps killing it.
Its really interesting to hear someone say "I think people should experiment". Noone actually ever says it but i kind of agree. I definately agree her voice sounds better now.
I love when Justin sings the theme song fresh every day. You just never know what he’s gonna do or what will happen. Recorded just wouldn’t be the same.
Really good points. Miley learned to embrace the changes in her voice. She sadly did a lot of damage to her voice unknowingly, but she sounds just as effing amazing - she’s just deeper now. I like to call that the sexy voice.
I had polyps on my vocal chords as a child that went away in their own, but I had a super deep voice according to my mom. As a teen, I had asymptomatic GERD that burned a hole in my vocal chords. I sounded like a man for months and had to rest my speaking voice. I also had a sexy voice for around 10 months that very slowly healed with medication, dietary changes, and sleeping with an angled wedge so I wasn’t flat.
I always worry when I see singers who smoke, don’t rest their voice and body after a gig. I always wonder when it will catch up with them. Maybe Mylie’s experience will inspire Justin, and any of his fellow pro musicians who may be watching, to do as much as possible to take care of their vocal chords and bodies so we will enjoy their instrument for many more years to come.
Look how many brilliant singers have lost their iconic voices after facing medical issues and/or the effects aging. Caring for yourself gives you the best chances of not being one of those people who lose their identities. The same way a guitarist (or their tech lol) maintains their guitar with daily wipe down, using a protective case, occasionally swapping strings, and making repairs as needed, singers gotta do what it takes to maintain the voices they rely on for income . . . and we adore. It’s worth consulting with vocal doctors and therapists every now and then to learn about your specific voice, check for any minor damage before it gets worse, and above all, heeding their expert advice.
Thanks Justin!
❤❤❤
I love the live intro theme tune Justin, it keeps things so much more human 💕
I really love how she's developed to be unapologetically herself, her persona is waaay more interesting now than the shiny shiny popstar she started as.
I like that you sing your theme song each time 🙌
Yes please!
I really like when you sing the introduction each time, and how it changes depending on how you're feeling. It's part of the fun! I really wasn't an early fan of Miley's, but the more she (and her voice) matures, the more I absolutely love her. I'm a huge, HUGE fan of the 'smokey' type voices, like Tracey Thorn from Everything But The Girl and Imogen Heap
Love your channel, always brings joy. Keep doing the intro live, it adds so much character. Maybe create a compilation of them one day, like a time lapse
I love when you play your theme song, Justin, and the variations you put on at times, sometimes relating to the video, and your expressions, all if it -- you are brilliant and creative and love your attitude...
NEVER stop singing your theme Justin
That new voice of Miley is perfect for rock songs. As Bonnie Tyler, she has now a very distinctive husky voice (despite in both cases is due to a procedure, but also emotions and lifestyle have a big influence as it's pointed in the episode...)
Nice one! 👍
Edit: Not forgetting Marianne Faithfull...
I have recently started listening to your old albums again. You guys were ahead of your time. I love Permission to land, but I adore the second album. Dinner lady arms, Hazel eyes (looove it) , and that solo in English country garden is pure magic.
I agree about her voice being more interesting now. I've been loving the rock covers she's done recently. Her husky voice suits the rock genre so well. I've always had a ton of respect for her, but I've enjoyed seeing her come out from behind the pop facade more in recent years.
If anyone doubts her chops, they should check out her performance of "Say Hello to Heaven" at the Chris Cornell tribute show. You can tell the audience is skeptical when she comes out. But by the end, they're completely won over. Even on a poor handheld video filmed from the side of the stage, it'll give you chills.
Justin, I'm a huge fan of your show. I love your honesty and the way you present the show. I dig your singing and your band too. By the way, greetings from Singapore. Cheers! I'm having my cup of coffee...
Oh Justin!! You had me cracking up as ALWAYS!
Honestly Justin, you look so fun to smoke a cig with some coffee and chat with. You just remind me of the strangers I have long chats with when I travel, someone I wanna just have a deep talk about nothing yet everything at the same time. I always watch your videos while I smoke cause it feels like a friend chatting with me.
I was in a terribly abusive family/relationship from my teens to my late twenties and it pains me to admit that it caused a lot of shouting matches between myself and those around me. It took me about a year and a half of singing every day for about 2-6 hours to regain the purity my voice once had. However, my voice sounds better than it ever has in my life and I actually find myself crying often because I thought I had lost it forever and I sound unlike I ever thought I could. The vocal cords are a beautifully resilient thing
I'm so sorry. 😭It's nice to know that you made it through that though. ❤
@@chicedar14 thank you!! And it’s okay. Like I said, I’ve never been more proud of the sound of my voice. So if anything, it’s been a bizarre blessing that I can’t be too upset over now. I’m in a much better place ❤️
Yes. Same. I have tried to stop it but I haven't found a way yet. I've never fully forgiven my mother either who allowed herself to be gaslit into tolerating and perpetuating the abuse. 😢 it sucks friend. I hear you.
I’ve completely changed my outlook on her and talents when I saw her sing Nothing Else Matters on the Stern show. You could see the power, emotion, and experience in that performance, and it really showed me how much I was missing out on. Her relatability and openness is charming and admirable. I wish to be with someone that open-minded with music someday, she’s a legend and she deserves it.
She always had a great voice but the thing that sticks in my mind was when she did Glastonbury in 2019 and covered Nothing Else Matters which was amazing. Then the pandemic happened and the next time I see her was that Howard Stern video with Metallica doing Nothing Else Matters again and after she sung the first line it was like 'Holy Shit.....'
If you've never seen her to do Say Hello to Heaven at the Chris Cornell Tribute Show you should check that out. Chills every time I listen to it.
I really fell in love with Miley as a singer when she featured in the episode of Black Mirror "Rachel, Jack and Ashley Too" and covered NIN songs. Now I honestly just wish she would go way more grunge/metal, she suits it so well.
Almost feel like she was born a touch too late. I imagine her coming after the likes of Courtney Love and completely blowing us away. Pop is a safe place for her, but it really doesn't seem to truly use her talents.
I personally love her country moments, when she leans into that, she sounds amazing!
Have you heard her cover of Zombie by the Cranberries? Stunning. It made we wonder where her voice comes from, so I decided to watch a couple of early Hannah Montana show - now halfway through season 2, not ashamed to say at 55 that it’s great fun, especially watching Billy Ray trying not to crack up at Jason Earle’s as Jackson
@@dippydogz yes, that cover is incredible. The whole Plastic Hearts album is.
Justin, I think you and Miley could write a fantastic rock song together. I'm sure she knows of and loves The Darkness.
She had Stevie Nicks, Billy Idol, and Joan Jett all featured on one album, three different songs. Who the hell else in the "pop" world is doing awesome shit like that?
Make it happen! You rock!
Reinke's edema according to medics is caused by smoking apparently. Smoking slows down healing too.
I'm quite amused by these word salads of hers, she must just of been a really heavy smoker. Luckiky she can still sing, because that voice sounds rough
Really enjoying your videos, keep it going! Also have Motorheart on loop at present it's excellent.
Miley's Tiny Desk performance rocks so hard!
I like how much the theme tune has changed, I didn't mind the "a~~~~~gain" phase.
It'd be weird of you did the very original one at this point.
I really respect someone who just tells it like it is. Loving her raw honesty, and her voice is great.
Imagine getting her on the channel.
If that ever happens, I'll fall off my chair for sure.
439,000🎉and I still haven’t got a mug, I do have 6 Darkness mugs though!!!!
I work in opera and hear how amazingly the singers warm up their voices before singing. I'd love to hear about that 'after the show' voice training that they do. Bring it on! Also, I've always been astounded how heavily singers smoke! I know so many that chug down the ciggies and then belt out amazing tunes with that same instrument (their/your voice). It blows my mind. It feels couter-intuitive.
I completely agree with your take on smoking, insofar as it being counterintuitive. Although the voice certainly changes with age, it often immeasurably changes for those who smoke heavily. I'm actually surprised when guys like Justin can still hit those high notes!!!
@@nomo9344 Yeah same!
Me too. I often wondered how Corey Taylor could smoke and sing like that. Also with his perfectly in tune scream/shout/sing thing he does.
Dear Justin, in French when you says "Adieu" to someone, it means that you don't expect to see them or talk to them again, or that you don't intend to...
Mileys' tribute to Chris Cornell
Say hello to heaven was one of the best 4 minutes of music i ever heard. Liked her before, loved her ever since. She get better with every year that passes. Thanks Mr Hawkins.
I never liked Elton John's voice until 'live in Australia' it was shortly after his operation and it was rough and you could hear the struggle. That made it more relatable!
I wasn’t a fan of hers until I saw her cover “Say Hello 2 Heaven” at the Cornell tribute concert. Amazing performance, she gained many fans that night.
The Darkness were my absolute fave band circa 2003, might toddle along to a show this year!
Omg I've just come across your channel I loved the darkness
More Richie Kotzen!! Miley is a badass. That cover of say hello to heaven at the CC TRIBUTE WAS Dope AF
You're really growing on meeee🤘🤘
Miley is amazing and highly underrated. Have thought that since "The Climb" days. Loved her cover of Paul Simon's "50 Ways To Leave Your Lover" that she did on SNL anniversary show a while back.
As far as recording the theme tune, good idea. But it won't be the same without you struggling to get your guitar in the stand after...unless you would like to record the sound of that too. lol!
Not particularly my fave artist but the woman is really interesting and obviously talented and very bright.
Growing up we all think we’re indestructible, until we realise we’re not. Hopefully that realisation comes before either the damage is irreversible, or our choices kill us. I happen to know that sometimes it’s a f*king fine line.
id love to come to one of your gigs its on my bucket list as im getting on
A mug that's perfect for drinks... Woah! 🤯
Everybody's voice change by the time, not only because the life style, but the effect to growing old.
But in my opinion the most of singers get better the way to sing in spite of the voice evolution, because you earn better style or better techniques. It's what in Spanish call "tablas", the translation to English is "board"...i honestly don't know the reasoning to use this expression.
In fact there are singers who keep doing great performances even thought they are older or have had a hard lifestyle.
Justin, i think that you must have a strong personality if you got to separate the rock star persona of the Justin Hawkins person in order to get a healthy lifestyle.
And to tell us, because you are an awsome rocker on the stage but you haven't to die in it.
I applaud to you when you talk in this terms.
I like very much the Justin Hawkins person who you show us by this little window which is your channel.
I love drinking beer, but i try to do it only once in the week end, and every time i stand up less drinking alcohol...
Caring of ourselves is good, and i like people who promote it. Like u.
I don't want to you think that i tell compliment by tell them... I think it from the heart. Go on being the way you are now.
I love your theme song ritual!
So love this video I adore both of u ❤❤
Please, interview Richard 4tus from GNR, he is such a guitar god, versatile and geek about equipos and innovations in the industry. Also he has played with so many great artists, might be full of stories to share !
Please, 4tus on the show!
Nice vid man
What Grado's are those? RS-1x? How would you rate them again others open backs?
As an elder experimenting alumni, I’d say the Big problem with experimenting these days is that there’s stuff that can easily kill you….
That's what we explain to our 16 year old
My son turns 21 tomorrow, and is going out with his friends…we have had many discussions about substance abuse already but today we make a plan to follow (and I’m giving it to his responsible girlfriend too). He is a string bean skinny kid, so I worry his friends might not take that into account as they buy him drinks. He knows about alcohol poisoning and is more of a stoner (mammas influence 😬) than drinker. Still, worried, but I know my kid is super brilliant and will listen to his body.
We have the same birthday, so we are going to lunch together and will be having his first legal drink together- a Cosmo. (His name- after Cosmo di Medici)
It will be a rare one for me, I have little tolerance for alcohol, it makes me feel crazy dehydrated so I rarely imbibe
@@FluxyMiniscus happy birthday to you and your kid!
@@FluxyMiniscus Having to give birth on your birthday? What a literal birthday present for you 21 years ago! Happy birthday to you and your son!🎉🧁🧁
10:50 I love what she says here. I actually agree.
Personally, I was addicted to drugs from 18 to 30 years old. Started a band in my late teens with a new friend, and we partied and made some of our best songs then. Literally sitting with one guitar each for 24 hours and writing and playing. It ofc went to heavier stuff. But I’m happy to say we are both clean today. Most people say to me: omg you f***ed up, you must regret that so much. But I tell them, absolutely not! It was the best time of my life. We made music, wrote songs. And I learned so much from that whole experience. I’m convinced I’m stronger and smarter today because of all that.
Oh wow! You are going to be at the Wiltern. See you there!
For a second I thought she was gonna say she’s been sober since this morning 😂
Justin Fucking Hawkins Rides Againnnnn 🎶🎶🎶🕺🏽
‘Perfect for drinks’. The best sales pitch for a mug that I’ve ever heard. Plus, I nearly wet myself when you said it.
i like how you do the theme song each time
Jason Hawkwind seems like an interesting person. Have him on! 🙂
Good Day to you Justin... over the last 20 years your voice changed significantly. We can hear it from PTL to Motor Heart... well you've grown buddy!😂
Considering how hard she partied and for how long, it’s amazing that some vocal damage is all she did.
She hasn't lived long enough to have partied hard for long. She is a spoilt privileged girl who took a few drugs for a couple of years that is all.
Probably damaged a few penises along the way too.
@@creamwobblyshe said she experienced some heavy things recently too
Totally agree, she sounds kinda interesting with that damaged voice (at least when singing, not so much a fan of her talking voice). A while back stumbled upon a performance she did on the Howard Stern show and it was really, really good. The studio stuff sounds a bit too polished for my taste but Live it's great, really enjoyable. And she's an absolute badass performer.
Cool, almost 500k followers now. I remember when you first started and there was only a few hundred of us
The thing with the `everyone should experiment` is that you get people like me (and you too Justin) Those that have no control over that experimentation, which soon goes from rare experiences into common experiences into addiction at a VERY rapid rate! Then if you are dedicated to that then before you know it youve lost decades of your life, decades in prison or decades off your life!
I agree. I was one of the lucky ones that spent my late teens and 20's partying and experimenting and dropped it just before my 30's. I did enough partying to last a lifetime and goddamn I had some fun and never regretted a single minute but I'm very happy to never go to another rave or have any substances ever again. It's not until you sober up you realise not everyone is as lucky and can't choose to sober up before it's too late. It feels very much a lottery.
Interesting stuff. I also loved her as Hannah Montana. She's evolved into something amazing. I'll never forget the first time I heard Open Fire. I didn't think it was you at first. What happened and changed with your voice?
If no one explaind it to her, which is surprising to hear, means she was a natural singer without proper training.
Smoking, drinking, parties, lack of sleep, stress, allergy, lactose, too much coffee, red wine all of it affects vocal cords. Voice is an instrument like no other 💜
Her dad is literally a singer, had a hit and everything.
This seemed to happen to all my favorite vocalists. Davey from AFI destroyed his voice and I believe has 3 surgeries but he's still out there in multiple bands giving it his all. He definitely sounds different but just the fact he's still able to sing is pretty awesome
“Fucks up her voice”
But in-fact made it stand out from the generic plain vocals of mainstream music and allowed her to pursue rock and absolutely killing it.
I think she isn't advocating getting hooked on but experimenting. That to me means two different things..it indicates knowing when you are getting past experimenting and into different terriitory
I've only just learned to like Miley, but I think she's awesome!
These shows are the best ever
I agree that Miley has a great tone to her voice now. And a heaviness and tone that is deeper and separate from that of her father. Even though he does good covers of Billy Idol when he wants to, her voice actually has more bottom end and it would be cool to hear her cover "White Wedding."
I was in cover band during hair metal and had to sing up to 35 songs that were performed by other singers a night. When we had to do 2 consecutive nights, I could barely speak the day following the 2nd gig.
My diaphragm use at the time was not as good as it is today and that made it even worse.
I need a Justin Hawkins rides again mug 🤳
Problem is she is only 30. Once she starts to age, that voice won't hold up. So shorter life span. No free lunch. When she's your age Justin, she has no hope of being able to sing her early songs as you can yours.
Perfect examples of this is Siouxsie Sioux and Don Dokken. Both were amazing vocalists but are now unbearable to listen to.
Singing frequently isn’t easy, even if you’re trained to sing properly. I briefly played in a band as a vocalist & a guitarist. I was singing with a choir, my band, in the car and by myself to practice. I remember going into the recording studio after a gig. I was singing way too much & it was tough on my voice. I definitely needed a break. I imagine touring nonstop being terrible for you, especially if you’re smoking, not sleeping enough and partying all of the time.
I don’t agree with many of her life choices, but I always love her honesty.
I really started to like Miley in the past years. She is a cool chick and did some amazing Rock song covers.
If you could duet with Miley on a cover, what would it be and why? Personally I'd love to hear you cover 'Dead Ringer For Love', with you singing the Cher part. Or vice versa. Both would be awesome! PS, please duet ANYTHING with Miley.
omg her voice is so deep DEEP 😭
That last comment reminds me of the song rock ‘n’ roll victim by Death off the album for the whole world to see.
Are you actually coming to Arizona? I.would love to see you guys live
Yes! Tempe! Check the link to the tour dates, it has all the info: www.thedarknesslive.com/tour-dates/
On mayo, Cleveland clinic, and other medical sights it says Reinke’s Edema is always caused by smoking. So sadly the smoking is likely the major cause unless misdiagnosed
having reinkes edema was the hardest part I've gone thro vocally and mentally... mine came from over use, age and I had developed a hiatus hernia so the acid had free flow to my vocal cords... I (on the other side) did have the luxuary of being and ordinary unknown so I took time off, rearranged things in the music and gave myself time to heal.. yes the bank and bills suffered from it but all I kept thinking was "health first!"
Miley has adapted really well to here 'new' voice. I hope it treats her well in the future.
"The journey is what you remember anyways"
This is crazy because there was an episode of Hannah Montana years ago where Miley comes down with a larynx disease that threatens her career and ability to sing, I think it was a season finale.
Justin. Sorry for using this forum but… when are you all playing in Sweden? I just Have to get me and two of my sons (22 and 25) a The Darkness fix!
Frankly, I was totally disinterested in her singing until I heard her sing with Metallica…after her voice changed. She’s now got a great ROCK voice instead of pop. I hope she can go on to give us some great rock music.
Interesting, I was starting to respect her vocals until I heard the Metallica thing.
@@praetentious2925 wow……..it’s cool,that people can have such different taste. That way, many genres of music get supported.
hahaa your face when she said she doesn't smoke anymore
I do have to say, I was never a fan of her music for a long time. But, she has been gradually pulling out more authenticity in her albums and it's totally reflective of the wisdom she's gained over the years. Her interviews have been really awesome lately because she brings a kind of relieving honesty.
She is a excellent rock singer😉
keep singin' it live every time, love the live falsetto from the falsetto king! Streisand smoked, don't know if she still does.
Her Heart of Glass cover is brilliant
love MIley.. real talent.. sometimes sketch choices but she is the real deal.
She's an amazing singer.
She has a great rock voice 😊
My voice got destroyed drilling concrete. I remember calling all my friends that didn't believe it was me. I then attempted some Motorhead songs. Yes attempted hahaha. My voice healed a little but the damage is done some days I can't even talk.
Miley is cooler than I thought, I can only name one of her songs and I saw her doing a good version of Jolene with her Godmother!