Halloween II's Television Version Makes No Sense!
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- I bought the Scream Factory Blu-Ray for Halloween 2 last year and decided to pop it in for an upcoming episode. I saw there was an option for the TV cut of the movie and figured I'd give it a shot. What I saw was so confusing and frustrating that I had to do a video on it. Here is what I think of Halloween 2's television version.
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We finally did the Best Halloween II episode:
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We also shot a parody where we remade the original Halloween in 5 minutes:
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are there multiple TV versions because I don't remember it being this bad! LOL
@@AntajuanGrady probably
What makes you think all TV Movie versions make no sense? Sounds ironic to me!
The first time I ever saw this movie as a kid it was this version. I call it the "chopped and screwed" edition. Even then I noticed all of the weird cuts and edits. One scene I wished they had left in was Michael going into Laurie's room. It was a shot of him tossing the pillow away in anger when he realized she wasn't there.
Nah, too much display of emotion. Him just turning around and leaving works better
@@williamgiesen4910 Nah. I disagree. I liked it when he got upset that she wasn't there.
@@charlesharding2243 yeah if there’s one emotion that I like to see in Michael Myers is anger.
@@supremekingjaden.3096 yeah that’s kind of dumb. Like argh I’m angry *throws pillow* tf lol
I hated that. Michael doesn’t show human emotions.
Glad these types of videos are making a comeback again
I have time to do them again.
@@HackTheMovies that’s good
Halloween 2 might be my favorite horror sequel of all time.
I freaking loved this movie as a kid! I watched it so many times on my VHS copy that it started to have trouble playing. LoL 👍
It was better than the new Halloween movie they just made...except for the intro of the new one.
It's a terrible movie
Halloween 4 for me, just for the amazing intro alone.
@@jamieshelker2178
No, it's a worthy sequel and has the look and feel of the original and it adds to the story.....Sure, it is a bit slow at times but atleast in this one Michael isn't boppin' around Haddonfield all GD day in a car. The Terrible sequels are 5, 6, 7, 8, RZ2, and Kills.
Worth mentioning the very hilarious change to Karen's hot tub death, where when she turns around to see Michael, he just kinda looks from left to right awkwardly like "what who where's the killer?"
“What’s wrong? I just brought you another towel.”
I remember seeing that on AMC when i was really little in 2007 and thinking Michael Myers looked SO goofy in that shot. Then when i finally was able to rewatch Halloween 2 when I was a bit older in 2011 via a DVD version, it was the proper shot of Michael looking straight at her when he dunks her head under the water. So for many years after THAT I had thought my childhood nostalgia brain had just made him look goofy in that one scene and that that silly look away never really happened. But now all these years later Im finally realizing that Michael Myers did in fact looked silly in that one scene and that it was just because it was a TV edit lol.
Yes my favourite part that is he just looked too the side his eyes was funny as well when he did it 😄 😆 😂 🤣.
I scrolled through the comments to see if this was mentioned by anyone. It’s such an odd alternative take.
The tv cut is full of odd choices like this. I don't know who did this, but you have to wonder if it was deliberate. Like maybe somebody had a vendetta against the producers and wanted to stick it to them...
The funny thing is: Some of the cut scenes, if added to the official theatrical version, would enhance the overall quality of the story.
Totally agree. Until just now I’ve never seen that shot of Michael opening that door in the hospital. I’m assuming it was the door to the stairwell she was in. Seeing it for the first time just now creeped me out in an awesome way!🎃
@@oldhollywoodfan8009 That quick shot has always been creepy, since it aired in the early 1980s. I also preferred the extended and uncut scenes featuring the various nurses discussions about the events of the night, and Laurie's hysterical reaction upon Jimmy giving her the news that Michael Myers had been killed in a fiery accident; which leads to her being given a second dose of tranquilizers, resulting in her semi-comatose state throughout most of the rest of the movie.
It might be worth mentioning the Halloween Mr. Sandman Cut. It's a fan cut which combines Halloween 1 and 2 with with their deleted scenes as well as the additional scenes from Halloween 1 shot for the TV version into one three and a half hour long film.
Is it good?
@@chrissalinas2160 It's one of the better fan cuts out there. Loved the editing to make it one long movie too which it really is even with continuity issues here and there due to the time between the making of both films. Having Dean Cundey do the cinematography for both helps a lot.
How are the HII deleted scenes integrated which only exist in Pan and Scan?
where can i watch it?
One of my favorite TV edits was in Predator. When Dutch throws Dillan against the wall and says "it's all bullshit" he says "its all bologna!!!"
It is a shame that Rick Rosenthal's original cut of *"HALLOWEEN II"* has not been shown to the public. It was said to have been similar in tone to the original classic with little to no blood. But due to horror films in the '80s starting to show blood and gore, writer/producer John Carpenter went and directed new, more violent scenes which meant certain previously filmed scenes were removed, much to Rosenthal's disappointment.
Some of the deleted material can be seen in Jack Martin's novelization of *"HALLOWEEN II".*
I never liked Carpenter's criticism of the work done by Rosenthal, since the guy seemed to be going out of his way to mimic the approach taken in the first film. However, as a general rule, adding violence and blood tends to be a good thing. I'm a bit more on the fence about gore...I can take it or leave it, but I HAVE seen otherwise good films ruined because they made themselves repellent with excessive gore...
I love stuff like this because I've seen mostly television cuts of a lot of movies and seeing the uncut version blows my mind
Do see what happens Larry when you find a stranger in the Alps!?!?!
Famous Uncle Tony, I highly enjoy these short form analysis videos that dive into topics with a scalpel and extract good pieces of information despite the short runtime. Keep it up!
The TV version of Psycho III starts differently with a montage of paintings based on the film. And as Maureen walks through the desert, there's a voice over speech preformed by the guy who plays the priest.
As a young kid who grew up in the 80s, my introduction to horror was through TV cuts of all the classics. Then my older siblings would record them on VHS so we could watch them over and over again. I didn't see the theatrical cuts until later when I was older, which would make me go.... 😮😮😮🤔. Now of course I prefer the theatrical version now, the old school cuts I used to replay over and over again, until the VHS would start to show wear and tear, still hold a special place in my heart... 😂.
When it came to the original Halloween, I always preferred the tv version. It included more Loomis, who was always my favorite character.
I've never seen it for myself, but I've heard the tv cut of The Thing has its own oddities.
It was released on s 2 disk release a few years ago. It's wacked. It has narration about each character. Deleted and extended scenes. Alternative versions of scenes. I can't believe what TV did to it.
That first change of dialogue with the doctor's line removed is absolutely hilarious because now he seems either frightened or irritated when he just turns around and runs off!
"Was that a Halloween joke?"
"..F this noise." **runs off**
TV cut or not this scared the absolute crap out of me when I was a kid.
I love these little mini episodes.
It reminds me of early Hack The Movies.
I love how you cover so many things. Amityville. The Howling. Halloween.
You can tell that you're a true fan of these movies. Never lose that fire.
Keep on being awesome Tony.
The TV version of Halloween II is practically a different movie from the theatrical version. It's nostalgic for me since it was the first Halloween movie that I ever saw when it aired on CBS back in the early 80s (1982?). It was in 1988 when I first saw the theatrical version, and I was amazed at the changes. The TV version is an interesting watch though as we get to see some scenes not included in the theatrical cut as well as alternate versions of some scenes. One scene I wish they would have left in was the scene where Laurie if freaking out and gets sedated when the power goes out, which I thought would have been good to leave in since it explains why later in the movie the hospital is lit by the emergency backup lights instead of the main lights.
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@@phantasm8180 What?
I would like to just sit here all day and watch Tony talk about "Made for TV cuts of movies" and point out all the details and extra scenes and funny edited naughty words 😂🤣
I'm not sure why this was the tv edit they included on the collector's edition because whenever I used to watch this on AMC with my dad it was very different. The cut we would watch was essentially just like the real movie except the curse words were dubbed, the extra scenes were still present, the hot tub scene was just blurred and cropped at times, and the Marshalls death was different. Everything else was identical to the theatrical version.
There's also a third TV edit that's still better than this one and essentially it's the theatrical cut with the curse words censored and none of the new TV scenes present. They keep in the change of the head nurse's death so that it looks like Jimmy falls from the explosion. The needle scene is completely absent. But weirdly enough every other death in the movie and the scene of Michael getting the knife is still there
Yeah, I know one version changes the swearing scene to:
"Every other word you say is either Hell or Hell or damn."
"Sorry, guess I just [censored] all the time."
The censors didn't like swears that could be used as verbs.
yeah that happened with me too
The H2 TV Cut was the first horror movie that I watched all the way through and it spawned my enjoyment for the genre, leading me to John Carpenters Halloween and the rest of his filmography. Catching the Halloween marathon on AMC during October had me obsessed with the series in the following years.
I'd love to see famous CZcamsr Tony from Hack the Movies make more videos like this talking about TV edits of movies!
I'm a simple man to please. I see Tony talking about Halloween, I click
Also this TV cut is so absurd. It's such a weird cracked mirror version of Halloween 2
The alley scene does seem weird especially so deep into the film. It's also a very forced cutaway from the street where Brackett is about to pull up to Loomis back to the barking dog for no apparent reason. Skipping over that scene with Loomis and the sheriff also unfortunately leaves out one of my favorite lines - after Loomis says he shot him six times, shot him in the heart, etc Brackett says "He can't have gotten very far. C'mon..." Always loved that line.
OMFG, The Sugar Cut! Thanks to this edit, my friends and I had a running gag: Anytime someone said "shit" in a movie, we'd shout "sugar!" Weirdest dub ever.
My favorite is a TV cut of H20 with odd editing choices. They use a different Myers mask in certain shots, and for some reason at the end after Laurie takes the van and it goes off the cliff, the engine catches fire twice because they reused the same shot twice in about 20 seconds.
"You don't know what death is!"
That's one line that hooked me on horror films for life.
I watched the film as a kid and hadn't seen the original, so being thrown into the recap really made me feel uneasy - and when Loomis says this and the brilliant score sets in immediately, I felt like I had stepped over a threshold into the cinematic world of adults.
Leaving this line out is a dealbreaker for me.
The Halloween 2 TV cut holds a special place in my heart
I always hated watching movies on cable back in the day as it was always re-edited and redubbed to remove cursing.
I think I only saw it ONCE...MAYBE twice...well over twenty years ago...the only thing I liked about it that I STILL wish had been in the actual movie was Jimmy sitting up in the back of the ambulance and Laurie so happy to see him that she cries:)
I actually learned about that scene after googling what happened to the character after the last time I watched it. He didn't die in the movie he just disappeared. This would've at least shown that he survived regardless of how close he is to Laurie.
@@NickJarno Seriously--what a weird decision not to do that! We all KIND of want to know if he's actually okay or not...H20 could've totally said he was John's dad but died in some accident that contributed to her downward spiral before she got straight;)
I remember as a kid always thinking that Jimmy was Jamie's dad.. and that he and Laurie die in the car accident
@@masebearcat Me too, I'm PRETTY sure from having seen the TV ending first and then renting part 4 from the video store;) I always figured that was why her name was Jamie, after him--only later did I find out it was for Jamie Lee Curtis, but I wasn't letting that sway me from following what made sense in the story:)
That scene with Michael opening the door wasn’t in the theatrical cut. But it was kind of creepy
Totally agree! This was my first time seeing. Creeped me out but in an awesome way.🎃 I’m wondering if it was the door to the stairwell where she was running down.
I'll bet we get more Dana Carvey in the t.v. version.
I think he's only shown in the Theatrical version as a cameraman/bystander.
We don't
Great video Tony, I've never seen the TV cut of the movie. Wow, what a mess! Personally i don't undestand why they had to cut the cursing and swearing, it's an horror movie, not Peppa Pig, but i guess It's not incredibly relevant to the plot so whatever..but the random editing, the changing of entire scenes and dialogues bothers me. Looking majestic and famous as always
"Julie is full of sugar"...lol....I nearly spilled my coffee🤣
There was a TV cut of Needful Things that only ran on TNT in the late 90’s and was radically different from the theatrical. It was about an hour longer, the timeline of events is completely different, and they remove some bad overdubs that were put into the theatrical to cover up some of the missing scenes. It’s pretty hard to find now, though.
Wish they would release the long version of needful things on dvd more max scenes he was great
The theatrical cut of Needful Things was just meh, but the TNT version was incredible. I think it only aired once, and my tape accidentally got erased soon after. I'm baffled as to why that version has never made it to disc.
@@VinnieRattolle yes you are right
I taped it and then years later I cleaned it up and burnt it to dvd. I was in film school at the time. I edited out the commercials, cleaned up the image with a S-VHS deck and then used adobe photoshop on every scene. Then I tweaked the audio. Now I can’t find the case that holds both DVDS 🙄.
The extended TV cut of Needful Things came out on a German release in 2020 and Kino will release it later this year.
Films done by Universal usually had dramatically different tv cuts (usually shown on USA Network or NBC since they're all part of the same parent company) compared to their theatrical versions. Not just gore, profanity and nudity being edited out, but to make up for the cuts, they would add in a bunch of tv-exclusive scenes that were in the original workprint but didn't make it through final editing for the theatrical release. Scarface has a ton of tv exclusive scenes, Funhouse has Buzz meeting Amy's parents in her house and a slightly different conversation in the car afterwards, Child's Play 2 has more dialogue between the foster parents and an extended ending where Chucky's head is remolded from a hot plastic vat and the head smiles, and supposedly Christine had a tv version that included most of the deleted scenes which added like 30 minutes of content. Also fun fact: the voiceover for "Is this some kind of joke? I've been treat or treated to death tonight" is Tommy Lee Wallace (who worked on H1 and directed Season of the Witch)
There should be a fan edit where the flashback scenes from “Halloween Kills” are placed in between the end of “Halloween (1978)” and “Halloween 2”.
I once saw a TV cut of Uncle Buck and they cut the golf ball scene. I was angry because that was one of my favorite scenes.
I love this thank you for the content!
My favorite part of HALLOWEEN 2 is when the ham sandwiches being made .while the lady asks her husband " want mustard on your sandwich?...you asleep again"....
these need to be longer, it is rare i watch a youtube video shorter than 30 mins now, haha. but this is awesome my guy
this was an awesome little bonus review to see I really like this.
IMO the theatrical ending of Mr. Sandman playing over Laurie's blank face with a closeup of the burning mask is more effect then "We've made it Jimmy! We've made it!"
In 1977 there was a movie called Two Minute Warning. It was about a crazy sniper deciding to shoot up a huge football game. He does rack up victims and in the end gets killed and it never was really known why he did what he did. It was sold to Network TV and apparently they were not thrilled with broadcasting a movie with the subject matter. So, the network actually wrote and filmed scenes which made his actions part of a plot of an art heist. There would be an art gallery near the stadium taking in many rare paintings and the sniper would start shooting during the heist and he would not be aiming for people, but for stadium lights and such. Enough to begin a panic and get authorities occupied while the art heist is completed. Characters killed in the original version never got killed in the recut. Sub plots of the original movie were dropped in favor of the art heist plot.
Earthquake! Also had additional scenes shot for TV. Mostly a subplot of a young married couple in an airplane which lands as the earthquake hits and barely escapes back in the air. They go back to this couple at times as they get news about the happenings down below. These extra scenes were done to help expand the length of the movie so it could be shown over 2 nights.
Airport 77 and 79 also had a large amount of deleted scenes put back in to get it to a 2 night event, like Superman: The Movie.
Until yesterday I did not know that these were a thing.. Lol. I watched your version of the TV cut of The Thing. I remember seeing that movie for the first time and it was on TV, I'm in the UK, thankfully they showed the cinematic version.
I always thought it was really weird the TV cut made the 2 intros back-to-back at the beginning. The Halloween II intro then the Mr. Sandman intro.
The weirdest thing I saw was of all things on a DVD lens cleaner. They had video of a beach which was ment to calibrate your player tor the best picture. It starts showing a blue sky ,water and the like. Its about a 10 minute video of random beach scenes. I was messing around trying to set my tv properly when, about halfway through the video, to my shock they show a close up of a topless women uncensored. And the camera stayed there for about 30 seconds. I'm not even kidding
I remember watching a weird H2 back in like 1985 when I was a kid. I had a copy of the theatrical release that my buddy had dubbed for me when I had rented it from the video store. Here in Los Angeles the TV station KCOP 13 would play horror movies the last 2 weeks in October. Not sure if it was this one but I remember watching it and being so confused. I had watch my dubbed version to make sure I wasn’t losing my mind lol
I LOVE this type of video!
I was hoping someone would cover what ever happend to OL JERKO after he got grounded for throwing eggs at soaking windows.
I really loved this Tony, I hope you are going all in the Halloween season with hack the movies.
Want to know how different the 80's were!? I watched this on the TV that was playing in the bowling alley nursery room. . . when I was a child!
The TV cut of The Thing is pretty crazy and available on the shout factory collectors edition bluray.
One of the basic cable cuts of The Thing showed an alternate ending that showed one of dogs starring at the camp and runs off showing the audience that The Thing survived.
The TV version mixed up a number of scenes and sequences. Eg: Jimmy slipping on the blood and falling on the floor and cracking his head open. In the TV version, he falls at the end during the explosion. Regular cut, it’s in the middle of the movie and Laurie finds him in the car trying to get out of there.
I had seen the TV version so many times on cable in the 90's that I just assumed a whole pool of blood gushed out of Jimmy when he trips.
Yeah, I never go back to the TV cut, because it's really inferior. Those flashback scenes just really serve no purpose, and they feel kind of pointless. So many of the edits are really bad, and it makes watching the film somewhat pointless, after finding out the differences.
I grew up watching movies on local tv in NYC. As a kid I would notice the differences all the time and it confused me. Later I would understand that there are TV and theatrical versions. It's fun to see what they do hehe. Thanks for this!
The term "Television Cut" is a very loose one, depending on which network was showing it the editing was different. For instance I watched it on UPN and it wasn't anywhere near as haphazardly cut like the TV Cut included in this release.
Cable has different standards than network TV (which, in 1981-1982, was where Halloween 2 would end up). Since cable is a pay service, the FCC has limited pull of ability to issue fines. Content restrictions on cable are by and large decided with what the advertisers are willing to put up with.
I believe this is the 1984 NBC TV cut
Thank goodness for this video I knew when I was a kid there was that scene when that guy with the curly hair rose up in the ambulance at the end I knew I wasn't crazy and made that up in my head
The TV cut of Two Minute Warning with the sniper at the Football game was drastically different from the theatrical version where they actually shot extra scenes cut out the very bloody gun shots and shoe horned a jewellery heist plot and the mass shooter was the distraction because the networks didn't believe that someone would go on a mass shooting spree for no reason whatsoever
Great film 🤟
I want to join the people asking you to look for more of these tv cut versions of movies! This has niche potential all over it. Noone else is doing this that I know of and we all clearly enjoyed it!
No wonder, all those times I would say to myself "I dont remember things being like this"
The Jimmy scene in the ambulance with Laurie at the end was the only redeemable part of the TV edit. I like that scene and always wondered why it wasn't included in the theatrical version. Laurie deserved a little relief after all she'd been through.
There’s no way the voice director, the voice actor, or people watching the original broadcast thought that was a little girl…
King King (1976) is padded out with outtake footage. Any scene they could extend with an extra few seconds of actors waiting for their cue, or a slightly different line reading of dialogue we’ve already heard, it’s there!
I have that now. I gotta find time to watch it and compare. I HAVE seen the movie though AND we reviewed it! czcams.com/video/OXVVGCi0oOA/video.html
I like these "Quick Hacks" type of reviews were you get right to the point with your critiques just as much as your longer vids💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Well, this is a very interesting first video to find you on. I’ll check out your channel’s content to see if there’s anything that I fancy.
More to thee point, I like what you had to say, and it helped me reaffirm my disliking of TV appropriate edits to films, especially R-rated ones. I’ve hated this kind of censorship ever since I was young and it helped me mold my opinion into wanting the uncensored editions, hence why I find myself collecting physical media, to get what could be looked at as the real deal.
Náusicaa of The Valley of the wind. Notoriously altered in the 80s as a film called “Warriors of the Wind.” Ooof
The scenes for Friday the 13th 4 in the hospital always reminded me of Halloween 2
AMC this made me scratch my head every fearfest
Halloween 2 is my favourite horror movie of all time but I agree the TV cut makes no sense
Star Trek: The Motion Picture’s TV cut has the notorious wood scaffolding around the airlock.
"You don't know what SHIT is!" Glad I finally know where that line came from.
I remember seeing that on AMC when i was really little in 2007 and thinking Michael Myers looked SO goofy in that shot. Then when i finally was able to rewatch Halloween 2 when I was a bit older in 2011 via a DVD version, it was the proper shot of Michael looking straight at her when he dunks her head under the water. So for many years after THAT I had thought my childhood nostalgia brain had just made him look goofy in that one scene and that that silly look away never really happened. But now all these years later Im finally realizing that Michael Myers did in fact looked silly in that one scene and that it was just because it was a TV edit lol.
"Julie's full of sugar"!
I've said that line for years and years and so on.
I've got kind an affinity for the TV version. I've just seen it so many times and having seen the theatrical cut a zillion times too...its just an interesting artifact. Plus Nurse Jill gets some more lines before the shoes fall off.
Yeah, I saw this one back in the day when it was shown in the 1980s and it's so confusing especially with Jimmy's scenes being moved around.
Halloween II was the first Halloween movie I ever saw, using a basic cable cut on USA in summer of 2002. 4 months later when I taped it off of AMC, it was this 1984 TV cut
I recently just found out that the Marshall's death in this version, where it just looks like Michael shakes him to death (theatrical, he slits his throat), is supposed to be Loomis shooting the Marshall accidentally, as Michael uses him as a human shield to block the bullet. They just completely leave out him firing again, but the Marshall has a bullet wound on his chest
The way he ran away after the neighbor talked to him. Omg haha
Local tv station broadcasts in the early 1970s of Night of the Living Dead left audiences puzzled at what all the upset was about.
One of the cable channels (AMC?) used to show this version during their October scary movie fest.
Dude you should definitely keep to this format
I saw the movie in the theaters in 1981 when I was 8yrs old. A few years later I would see the tv cut and would think that was exactly what I saw in '81. It wasn't until the early '90s on VHS when I saw the theatrical again and was a little confused by why Lance Guest wasn't doing the final fake out scare at the end. A few years after that, the USA Network would show Halloween 2 in a marathon with the first film. Aside from violence, nudity, and profanity being censored, this cut of the film is essentially the theatrical cut.
On a side note, in that USA Network marathon, they oddly used the tv cut of Halloween with the extended scenes.
Somewhere out there, there is a cut of the Omen II where they show Damien trying to make toast over an open fire after everyone is dead.. I remember seeing it when I was a kid but none of the releases of the movie have that scene.
The scene is funny because he is having trouble doing it. Here is the prince of darkness struggling to make toast.
Anything hard R or even NC-17 has a funny or weird TV version.
Like "Scarface", "Showgirls", "Boogie Nights", etc.
I wish Jimmy was in the ambulance in the theatrical version.
My favorite Robert Redford film is Legal Eagles from 1986. Twisty plot but the short is that Daryl Hannah is accused of murder and Robert Redford/Debra Winger defend her/prove her innocents' and in the process find the real killer and fall in love. Very end, outside the court house, Daryl Hannah talks to reporters while Redford and Winger profess how much they love each other despite all the odds, then roll outro. I saw a TV version that was pretty similar to the theatrical cut with one small but important exception; when Daryll Hannah was talking to the reporters at the very end, she made a comment that only the killer would know about, tipping off her two attorny's that she was the killer all along. Cut to a scene inside a courthouse conference room and they are berating her for the truth, she confesses and they pledge to defend her once more. Then roll credits. I was horrified. All the scenes that suggested Brian Denehey was the killer had been left in, making this ending confusing. Plus, the previous 90 minutes had strongly led you to believe that Daryl Hannah's character was just a victim in all this, but now shes a cold blooded killer? It makes you sympathize with her character and then jerks it out from under you. In terms of actual cuts to the film it wasn't huge, but the change ruins the viewers relationship with one of the characters not to mention adds a ton of confusion to what had been up to that point, a solid story.
My damaged is so brain that I wouldnt have even noticed.
Jaws 4 tv/theater cuts have some very noticeable differences. Both also have Lance Guest in them as well!
Will the injustices done to Ben Tramer ever end .
This version was the first time I saw Halloween 2. The only good shot in was Jimmy in the ambulance w/ Lori.
If I could see that TV edit of JAWS THE REVENGE that's ending is for some reason way gorier than the theatrical I'd die a happy man
The Halloween II TV promo (about ten seconds in) is from a VHS tape that I still own. I recorded it off WEWS Channel 5 (Cleveland) in October 1987 (I was 11).
I know for a fact the 1st time I saw this was on tv but since then it's been home release for over 20 years. This is insane
Also the line between Hunt and the Deputy at the end is changed.
In the Theatrical version:
Hunt: What's the count?
Deputy: 10. So far.
In the TV cut:
Hunt: What's the count?
Deputy: Don't know...for sure.
I first saw the TV cut before seeing the theatrical cut then when I finally saw the theatrical cut, I was like what the Hell?! I thought I was going a little crazy, because it was so different.
What's even crazier is to think that the TV-cut is supposedly the actual Director's Cut (Rick Rosenthal), except edited for TV. If this cut is what Rick turned in, kudos to John Carpenter. He radically saved the film through nothing but editing and a few additional scenes.
I had heard the same thing, that Carpenter saw Rosenthal's cut of the movie, said, "It's not scary," and shot supplemental footage ro make it scarier. I had been searching for the TV edit as I had heard it was more reflective of the movie Rosenthal made before Carpenter reshot some of it.
I think that theory was debunked. Though it is true that Rosenthal intended to rely less on gore and that Carpenter did reshoots to add gore since F13 had come out since and was concerned about HII coming off too tame by comparison.
@@williamgiesen4910 interesting. I heard this about 20-25 years ago. I was curious if it had ever been debunked.
To have crafted the tv version, Rosenthal would have to have been an idiot. Even Resurrection didn't feature the sort of clumsiness and stupidity that we see in the Halloween 2 tv cut.
Get the original Halloween two vhs. Some of the best artwork.
Weirdest TV cut was when Jason Takes Manhattan used to play on HBO in like 2005 completely uncut