@@billpugh58 Bro the pilots are so untrained, they cant even fire a bullet and get every single one of them to directly hit an enemy like a sniper but in the air.
At Osan AB in Korea one day, playing D&D at the Rec Center, one of the players said he was an A-10 Pilot. I countered with, "With all due respect, Sir, no you aren't. "You are a GAU-8 Pilot, that wears an aircraft body." "I stand corrected, Specialist." "Wrong again, Sir, you're sitting."
@@PostAloneD If you somehow manage to run out of ammo without shooting down your opponent on top of that.... Then Bro you never belonged in that fighter to begin with.
@@bigstuff52 Only 5 have been lost ever, it's not an air to air fighter, its a ground attack vehicle, a role in which performs like a surgeon's blade even the hardest terrorist fighters feared that noise in Iraq. It is a flying tank and not easy to knock out of the sky, one A10 in Iraq took a direct hit from a small shoulder fired SAM and still made it back to base.
@@rustynailz178yeah I saw s documentary on how they want to retire the a10 for the f35 Even though it was introduced in the 70s that thing is still highly effective even in today's advanced world. And despite its age it's still cheaper to maintain than the f35. I don't think anything will ever beat that brrrrrt sound
@@Vitamin_jpyeah that’s cause dogfighting never happens anymore everything is long range attacks now, which kinda render short range machine guns useless
@@ibelieveingaming3562for this, you have to calculate by switching the measurement system from Donuts-Per-Bald-Eagle to the all-sane and logical Metric system for a better understanding
If you compare it to a 105mm, then yeah "For Military Aircrafts" meaning that in the world of Fighter Jets and Gunships, *this is the smallest Caliber*
20mm is still a damn anti-material round, the weapons firing them are actually referred to as "cannons", because they're well over the threshold of even .50 BMG, which is where man portable arms and true heavy armaments diverge. Sure, there are .50 BMG rifles, and even 20mm shoulder fired anti-tank rifles, but that's right at the upper limit of what you can put to your shoulder and fire without it becoming unsafe for the operator.
@@Isaac-ho8gh There's only ever been one supersonic gun kill in history from what I understand, generally guns aren't used at supersonic speeds, they're used at close range after the fur ball starts and everyone's maneuvering so much their energy and speed are down.
I enjoyed loading/unloading, removing/installing these for many years. Even worked the weapons back shop for some time and had the pleasure of disassembling and reassembling them. Great times.
@@thenorstar8955 I went through tech school from August to December of 1998. I was stationed at Luke, Osan, Misawa, Kunsan, Lakenheath, Aviano, Kunsan again, and lastly Aviano (again).
@@Twitch380 not really. There are IR and radar missiles - short and long ranged ones. Nowadays there are IR missiles that can pull 40-60 Gs and hit the fast moving target 6 km away easily. Radar missiles are even more curse pulling less Gs (30 probably), but they have effective range of 140 km. The dogfights are really rare right now, but if they happen you can hit the target with 20mm shell 200-1200 meters away. All missiles that were designed as very short range, like SRAAM, were mostly failure because they had to be very light, had almost no fuel and hardly stabilized.
I got to hear this in real life when I was a child. My dad flew these and I got to go with him when he had to go do ground coordination at the local training range. They had a large parachute painted like a target strung up between two beams and the planes would roll in very low. The sound was both deafening and awe inspiring.
Doesn’t matter how tiny it is. When you’re a squishy little human, it’s gonna hurt. Edit: for those saying it’s not tiny, I know. I am simply referring to the video. Also, it’s relatively tiny compared to something like say a 30mm or a 40mm. Also for all those that said you won’t feel a thing, I know too. It’s a joke.
Just a small correction. The F-15 was the aircraft that was designed to have a gun to fix the problem of no gun in the original F-4s, the F-16 just followed suit.
I think what he means is that the F-16 fills more similar role to the F-4, and also that every fighter after the F-4 has learned the same lesson when it comes to having a cannon.
The F-4E fixed the problem of having no gun by 1967 by having a gun, the same M61 used up to the F-22. The claims of the short are false, pretty much in line with most of this AI generated trash. The newer jets were made to be better at a lot of things. However, the F-4 not having a gun wasn’t one of them, cause the Phantom had a great gun and was getting kills with it long before the 15 or 16 first flew.
The F-104 was the first to have a rotary cannon, soon followed by the F-100. Major mistake not including one for the F-4, they assumed missiles would’ve all they needed…. Wrong!
This is partially true but doesn't reflect what really happened. The F111 was supposed to be what the F15 became but didn't pan out as planned. Then studies to develop the F15 happened, experience in Vietnam showed a smaller and lighter craft with high thrust to weight would offer better performance and the pentagon realized the F15 program couldn't deliver enough fighters in number at low enough cost. So the F16 was a lighter and cheaper day fighter at first to supplement the heavier more expensive F15. Also the poor performance of missiles during Vietnam caused guns to be brought back into the basic designs.
@garyeaton5719 lacking a gun was not as big of an issue as you think it was. The missiles worked, it was failure in other fields that made them ineffective. They had no way to identify what they were locking onto beyond visual range, which means that that Soviet jet bomber you just fired a radar guided missile at might actually be one of those new jet airliners that were becoming all the rage. That's why the F14 tomcat was equipped with TCS (Television Camera System), and later IRST (Infared Search and Track), the latter being a feture of all current fighter aircraft. The F4 could also carry a podded gun
And thats why the f-35 has no gun, (it has a gun pod attachment because of FUDS and Reformers) and new rifles don’t have bayonets. The only thing you should do if you find yourself having to use the gun on a fighter, or the bayonet on your rifle, is find the officers who put you in that situation and have some kind words with them.
Would an F-16 still occasionally do CAS gun runs, or is its gatling not really meant for that at all? Asking in case video game depictions of the F-16 are blatantly inaccurate
Former F16 armament specialist here....this entire weapon package fits neatly directly behind the pilot....the gun itself is a marval of machine work as it is so small....the spent rounds do not get ejected but will stay recycled inside the rotary drum magazine
CIWS tech here. That's my gun in your plane. I think that's an awesome use for it. On the CIWS we can run the gun with a pneumatic drive so the fire rate is 4500/min. but we can't get it to fly😂
Crazy how you guys are casually commenting on CZcams about a weapon on a multi million dollar craft that I fell in love with as a kid from watching top gun, and I get to comment along with…wth
@@ryanmartin4602more like our gun on your ship. Built for the AF back in the 50’s and still goin strong although through several modifications. The navy put longer barrels on it and it works well for y’all too.
Civi question! If it can only hold what seems to be a limited number of rounds, why make the fire rate so high as to “run out quicker” I’m not saying or thinking of a spray and pray and I get the other fighter will only be in front for a split second but if the rate of fire was slowed, the velocity should stay the same but you get more use from the weapon?? Also, is it more of like a side arm? “If you have to use them, you’re already fucked” mussels first type beat?
@@zachbogan4674when you only get a split second to hit something would you rather hit it 10 times or 50 times? In that split second you don’t want your target to live and be able to shoot back.
Worked on F-15Es, F-16s and F-22s. Had an incentive flight on the 15 and 16. Of my career, the F-16 was my favorite. It's an unbelievable aircraft, especially with the concurrent and recent CCIP modifications and updates on the new blocks.
I absolutely love that we made the actual world's first hypersonic to fit the coolest war machines we've ever made. I mean when you combine the F-22 with a hypersonic you literally have badass in physical form.
Love the A-10 and it will put in major hell on the ground like nothing else, but the F-16 is a little monster and it can effectively handle most situations.
I was an aircraft armament technician on the F-16. The gun system was my favorite part of the job. Worked backshop maintenance and flight line operations. Exciting times!
I had the opportunity to work on the M61A1 for the F-14 and F-18 aircraft and it was awesome. We even fired 25 rounds in the firing tunnel at Pax River Maryland and I hate to admit it was an incredible experience to feel your body shaking 25 times before you realize that it fired.
I noticed the guy using a hand tool to load the rounds. Do they ever allow the use of power tools for that part (likeduring actual wartime for instance)? Or it's it just to delicate/dangerous?
"Cousin of the GAU-8" The M61 is more like the dad, considering it came decades before the GAU-8. It was basically THE electric gatling gun that popularized the concept of such as aircraft armament and paved the way for mass adoption of electric gatlings. The GAU-8 as a weapon wouldn't exist if not for the M61.
The GAU8 is actually the enfant terrible of the M61 Vulcan, which came into being in the 1960s because the USAF struggled to find a regular cannon that didn't have issues, it has been and still is the best aircraft mounted gun system period. And Goes back as far as the century series fighters, the F104 was the 1st.
"It weighs one hundred and fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar custom-tooled cartridges at a rate of ten thousand rounds per minute... It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds."
@@user-bi7xd8ry5p Exactly. Even HEDP rounds aren't that much even accounting for fusing. Scale of manufacturing states that. The more you make of something the less each unit of that thing will cost. So yeah, bullshit.
Need to clarify, the M61 is not a smaller version of the GAU-8, quite the opposite. The M61 Vulcan entered service in 1959, and the GAU-8 entered in ‘77, based off the existing M61 Vulcan design.
He said smaller cousin as in they’re both Gatling type guns. Don’t think he was saying the M61 was based on the GAU-8. Just that they’re in the same family of type of gun. Thanks for the fun fact though anyway.
That is the same as saying that the GAU-8 is the bigger version. Being a different version makes no inference of which came first. The opposite of being a smaller version, would be being a bigger version.
Ugggh, As a USAF Ammo troop, I remember having to dump cans of these rounds out on a grounded table, count them, then load them into a UAL and run them out to the flightline to load into the aircraft. Read some comments in here and thought I would add that these blue headed rounds are for training, like at the gun range for aircraft for instance, but we also had high explosive rounds and armor piercing rounds for those that said this gun wasn't effective for vehicles. LOL. These guns will hardly ever be used for aircraft to aircraft battles, because it just doesnt happen that often anymore. Regardless, these guns when loaded with the proper ammo types will straight up murder soft targets, vehicles, radar and SAM sites or anything else if bombs and missles are expended. For anything like heavy armored vehicles like tanks, buildings, and wide areas of targets, the 105MM round from the AC-130 Gunship will get the job done and also has different round types depending on target. Same for the A-10 and every other aircraft. You have to think about all the different types of ammo or munitions available, make the best choice of available ammo types for the mission, etc. to get the job done fast and effective. The way the combat sorties are planned out is kind of like ordering pizza for the aircraft, but are usually already built or loaded in a deployed environment prior to missions due to rapid deployment priorities. In a non combat or training environment, they tell us what they need, we inspect, count, and load or build them, then deliver them. Gun rounds, bombs, missiles, countermeasures, and everything else that goes boom. We also have to recycle all the brass from expended rounds.
I used to work the radio at Avon Park Gunnery Range near Sebring, FL and can still hear in my mind the bzzzzzzzzzt of those 20mm Vulcans. Even after 50 years.
I was the ammo handling system Project Engineer for both the F-15E and the F-16 at General Dynamics in Vermont. During acceptance testing, these things would really rip. So impressive. Hunters who illegally hunted at the firing range would hear the pre-fire alarm go off and would duck behind a tree. They were incredibly naive. 😅
Air Force A-7Ds had the same gun; we sent our planes to National Guard and Reserve units when we got the first of the A-10s in 1978. A well proven weapon.
Fun fact: in addition to the Air Force's F-16 and other aircraft, the M61 is also the heart of the Navy's CIWS onboard ships and the Army's C-RAM. Thank you General Electric!
It’s been General Dynamics for years. A lot of serious engineering went into system development and testing. The basic gun has remained essentially the same (M61A1/A2) but the creative ways the ammunition handling systems have morphed to fit space constraints is very impressive.
The rounds are supersonic: they arrive on target before the sound they emit. You will get killed or see devastation around you before you hear that sound
at those airshows the crackling you hear of the plane firing is actually the bullets impacting the terrain or passing by. The Wuuu that comes after is the actual plane firing them, pitched up because of the doppler effect
@@fernandorosales2418 you've never been to Axalp then. The bullet impacts targets less than 800mt from the crowd. They're non-trace training rounds, but still those are real bullets flying in the air and they sound exactly like this. Blanks are not a thing for the vulcan
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 surely it's not less then 800 meters from the crowd, that is scary close and surely ricochets could be an issue. Would like to see video of this
Can get about 510 rounds in the drum, chutes and gun when installing rounds through. Depending on how the slack is whenever we reinstall a gun, sometimes you can get 511 in. That extra round when the gun is set to 3000/minute is an extra 20 milliseconds of fire time, lol.
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Crazy that the work on creating that gun started right after ww2. Just a marvel that they chose a gatling approach when so many others settled on revolver cannons
Massive respect and appreciation to all the technicians, specialists and mechanics doing all the hard work behind the scenes keeping those Fighter Jets well armed and in perfect mechanical condition. All of you deserve equal glory and gratitude as the pilots get. Without all of you breaking your backs and technical/mechanical knowledge. Those pilots would not be flying anything.
They had these guns in a towed version in the 82nd airborne until after Dessert Shield/Storm in an air defense/anti-armor roll. As a weapon fired at ground targets it was terrifying to watch, feel and listen to. At night it spit 10 foot of flame and the rounds lit up and shredded whatever was in its way. Besides 2000lbs JDAMs they were the most violent weapon I’ve witnessed. They were an amazing psychological weapon alone.
USAF 2W1 here. Copypasta meme-ry aside, we reuse the spent brass and with TP rounds, a normal sortie is 50-150 rounds expended (Almost never seen a full drum of 510 used in testing). Given the material cost of repacking, it's 115-350 dollars per sortie. But we only fire live rounds in a TDY operation which is two to three times a year. During an entire Operation Redflag in Nellis, for two weeks, the total cost of gun repacking may get to your pay for a few months. It's one of the cheapest expenditures considering the other munitions we use during those TDYs. Chaff and Flare are the other cheap cost option, similar to the rounds.
Got it; this is about aircraft but on a battleship the 20mm Oerlikons are pretty tiny upside the 40mm Bofors, 3" AA guns, 5" secondaries and 14" WWI or 16" WWII main guns.
I get the pleasure of hearing this multiple times a week. My neighborhood is near two bomb ranges in the swamp. I can hear them circle around then it gets quiet for a second then BRRRRRRR. It never gets old.
The sound really is quite something. I remember the sound quite well. We were on a school trip to Vlieland in the Netherlands where we got a militairy demonstration with F-16's shooting at targets ... It was atleast 1 km away from us where they started shooting at old tanks and the sound the guns made still scared the crap out of me the first time 😅... They also dropped a few bombs which sounded far less impressive then the guns.
well if you are following a slow cruise missile sometimes you can intercept without needing to use several hundred thousand dollar missiles to do what a few hundred bucks worth of ammo will do instead. also you might want that missile to deal with a jet rather than a largely defenseless cruise missile. *edit* or drone
*pccchhhht BRRRRRRRRRRR *
will never get tired of insanely high fire rate weapons😩
Yeah they mostly miss on the battlefield though😂
@@billpugh58 if you are shooting at an aircraft you only need a few shots to land
@@billpugh58 we call that accuracy by volume
@@billpugh58 Bro the pilots are so untrained, they cant even fire a bullet and get every single one of them to directly hit an enemy like a sniper but in the air.
search "2000 rpm pistol"
F-16: my plane has a gun
A-10: my Gun has a plane😅
At Osan AB in Korea one day, playing D&D at the Rec Center, one of the players said he was an A-10 Pilot.
I countered with, "With all due respect, Sir, no you aren't.
"You are a GAU-8 Pilot, that wears an aircraft body."
"I stand corrected, Specialist."
"Wrong again, Sir, you're sitting."
@@TimeSurfer206and did the entire crowd start applauding too?
Gun got wings 😅
Stole
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It’s crazy that it only takes 5 seconds to run out of ammunition, imagine being mid dog fight and all you hear is “BRRR-click”
More like "Brrrreeeeee" as the rounds run out and you just hear the electric motor spinning the barrel. :)
Honestly if this or its counterpart finds itself in a dog fight then they both already fucked up
If you hear them the bullets weren’t intended for you
if youre in an F16 and youre in a dogfight and have to use the M61 you have fucked up royally several times over
@@PostAloneD If you somehow manage to run out of ammo without shooting down your opponent on top of that.... Then Bro you never belonged in that fighter to begin with.
A-10: “I FIRE 45 RED BULL CANS A SECOND”
W refrence
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yah but if I fight a capable country with a good air force my A-10 gets shot out of the sky...
@@bigstuff52 Only 5 have been lost ever, it's not an air to air fighter, its a ground attack vehicle, a role in which performs like a surgeon's blade even the hardest terrorist fighters feared that noise in Iraq. It is a flying tank and not easy to knock out of the sky, one A10 in Iraq took a direct hit from a small shoulder fired SAM and still made it back to base.
@@rustynailz178yeah I saw s documentary on how they want to retire the a10 for the f35
Even though it was introduced in the 70s that thing is still highly effective even in today's advanced world. And despite its age it's still cheaper to maintain than the f35.
I don't think anything will ever beat that brrrrrt sound
Works perfectly for lightly armored targets, which just so happens to be ~99% of fighter aircraft.
Who is in the 1% 💀
I thought I read somewhere the other day that the last time a plane was lost due to plane-to-plane machine gun fire was in like 1992?
@@Vitamin_jp I'm kind of shocked it's that recent.
@@gamechip06heavily armoured attack airplane like the a-10 or su-25
@@Vitamin_jpyeah that’s cause dogfighting never happens anymore everything is long range attacks now, which kinda render short range machine guns useless
A10 goes brrrt, F16 goes zrrrt
Fr
Minigun go weeeee
Got it, thanks 👍🏿
Money printer go DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA
And we all humans goes, faaart... 😂😂😂
F-16 is my everyday carry. Don't leave the house without it.
Air defense missiles that are cheaper makes the bird go away. 😂 Remember the US has never faced an actual modern army with modern air defenses..
As it was meant to be.
I spent years working on the weapons systems and loading F-16's. I loved that job.
sure
Just to be clear, he said 100 20mm rounds per second, not 120mm rounds
To be clear this device pushes 21 pounds of metal and high explosives at you at a flow rate of 1800 feet per second every second that it stays on.
@@ibelieveingaming3562and 3 football fields
@@ibelieveingaming3562 1800 feet? How many hands are these?
@@ibelieveingaming3562for this, you have to calculate by switching the measurement system from Donuts-Per-Bald-Eagle to the all-sane and logical Metric system for a better understanding
@@EarthIsFlat456I don't know, but it's about half the width of your mom.
A minute of talking, 1 second of "The Amazing Gun Sounds". Can't do that to us man.
There was a second of gun sound? 😂
@@jev2867pccchhhht BRRRRRRRRRRR!!
if he plays more than 1 second then the USAF will copyright strike his channel
@DionLewiis Sound copyright? He's got video clips.
@@DionLewiis nah fool, you mean airstrike? 😂
It's like the 22lr for Military Aircrafts:
it might be small, but still gets the job done
Bruh, 78 caliber is small 💀
If you compare it to a 105mm, then yeah
"For Military Aircrafts" meaning that in the world of Fighter Jets and Gunships, *this is the smallest Caliber*
@@creeper4481 20mm. That’s still gonna cause a lot of damage to 99% of aircraft. It’s nothing like a 22LR in comparison lol…
thats dumb. 20mm is still a cannon, not a rifle. much bigger than 50 cal which is still anti aircraft material
who referenced a rifle?@@AdrianMartinez-wh4bp
“If you hear the sound, that means you’re alive” - Someone Sometime Ago
Calling 20mm tiny is crazy
For real. That's freaking ridiculous. This is the kind of people that would diss 22.
Tbf he did say in comparison
@@khraix590820mm is not that much smaller than a 30mm
20mm is still a damn anti-material round, the weapons firing them are actually referred to as "cannons", because they're well over the threshold of even .50 BMG, which is where man portable arms and true heavy armaments diverge. Sure, there are .50 BMG rifles, and even 20mm shoulder fired anti-tank rifles, but that's right at the upper limit of what you can put to your shoulder and fire without it becoming unsafe for the operator.
20mm is nothing.
Im 7 inches 😂 myself
It's wild how the bullets are just inches from the fuselage as they exit the barrel.
Not really, their shockwaves from travelling faster than speed of sound can't damage anything.
@@Isaac-ho8gh fkn WAT?
@@anthonylabrecque3396why you don't not understand proper good?
@@Roddy556bloody fucken
@@Isaac-ho8gh
There's only ever been one supersonic gun kill in history from what I understand, generally guns aren't used at supersonic speeds, they're used at close range after the fur ball starts and everyone's maneuvering so much their energy and speed are down.
Pilots say they only get two or three trigger pulls before the magazine is empty, so they have to be certain their target is lined up perfectly.
That's crazy. Is that the best way to do it?
The recoil also pushes the craft so hard that it basically fights the engine and wins so they have to compensate when they fire
I enjoyed loading/unloading, removing/installing these for many years. Even worked the weapons back shop for some time and had the pleasure of disassembling and reassembling them. Great times.
Were we stationed or in tech school together? June Oct 97 tech school
@@thenorstar8955 I went through tech school from August to December of 1998. I was stationed at Luke, Osan, Misawa, Kunsan, Lakenheath, Aviano, Kunsan again, and lastly Aviano (again).
@@geoffreybailey6350 Osan 01-02?
@@thenorstar8955 July 2000 - July 2001 36th FS
@@geoffreybailey6350 I got to the 36th Feb of 01. So that's probably where I know you from.
*"TOO CLOSE!! SWITCHING TO GUNS!!"* ~TOP GUN 1986
The F16 basically has 5 short bursts... The F14 in Top Gun has unlimited ammo.
@mr.robinson1982 who care
If your too close for missiles you are too close for guns lol.
Yeah, sounds amazing. IF WE COULD HEAR IT!!
@@Twitch380 not really. There are IR and radar missiles - short and long ranged ones. Nowadays there are IR missiles that can pull 40-60 Gs and hit the fast moving target 6 km away easily. Radar missiles are even more curse pulling less Gs (30 probably), but they have effective range of 140 km. The dogfights are really rare right now, but if they happen you can hit the target with 20mm shell 200-1200 meters away. All missiles that were designed as very short range, like SRAAM, were mostly failure because they had to be very light, had almost no fuel and hardly stabilized.
Remember the movie Iron Eagle, man every kid in the 80’s wanted to be a fighter pilot.
No i member Top Gun when they were playing volleyball.
Yeah, Top Gun for kids😅
"CHAPPYYY"
@@kevind1980 but that was an F14 not 16 Silly GOOSE!
RIP Lous Gossett JR
I got to hear this in real life when I was a child. My dad flew these and I got to go with him when he had to go do ground coordination at the local training range. They had a large parachute painted like a target strung up between two beams and the planes would roll in very low. The sound was both deafening and awe inspiring.
Cool childhood.
Gosh, lucky!
Hell yea!! Good for you! Badass
I heard it too doing some work at the Melrose Bombing Range in New Mexico. I started running. It scared the hell out of me.
F16 avionics tech 2002 to 2008, these guns were a beast on this tiny platform!
Doesn’t matter how tiny it is. When you’re a squishy little human, it’s gonna hurt.
Edit: for those saying it’s not tiny, I know. I am simply referring to the video. Also, it’s relatively tiny compared to something like say a 30mm or a 40mm.
Also for all those that said you won’t feel a thing, I know too. It’s a joke.
doesn't*
its not used against humans
Sure, just its collateral damage. @@ockerdebokx3369
@@ockerdebokx3369yeah but that shit would rip you up
20mm is not tiny 😮. Even if the A-10 Vulcan is 30mm. Miniguns use 7.62mm
Just a small correction. The F-15 was the aircraft that was designed to have a gun to fix the problem of no gun in the original F-4s, the F-16 just followed suit.
I think what he means is that the F-16 fills more similar role to the F-4, and also that every fighter after the F-4 has learned the same lesson when it comes to having a cannon.
The F-4E fixed the problem of having no gun by 1967 by having a gun, the same M61 used up to the F-22. The claims of the short are false, pretty much in line with most of this AI generated trash.
The newer jets were made to be better at a lot of things. However, the F-4 not having a gun wasn’t one of them, cause the Phantom had a great gun and was getting kills with it long before the 15 or 16 first flew.
The F-104 was the first to have a rotary cannon, soon followed by the F-100.
Major mistake not including one for the F-4, they assumed missiles would’ve all they needed…. Wrong!
This is partially true but doesn't reflect what really happened. The F111 was supposed to be what the F15 became but didn't pan out as planned. Then studies to develop the F15 happened, experience in Vietnam showed a smaller and lighter craft with high thrust to weight would offer better performance and the pentagon realized the F15 program couldn't deliver enough fighters in number at low enough cost. So the F16 was a lighter and cheaper day fighter at first to supplement the heavier more expensive F15. Also the poor performance of missiles during Vietnam caused guns to be brought back into the basic designs.
@garyeaton5719 lacking a gun was not as big of an issue as you think it was. The missiles worked, it was failure in other fields that made them ineffective. They had no way to identify what they were locking onto beyond visual range, which means that that Soviet jet bomber you just fired a radar guided missile at might actually be one of those new jet airliners that were becoming all the rage. That's why the F14 tomcat was equipped with TCS (Television Camera System), and later IRST (Infared Search and Track), the latter being a feture of all current fighter aircraft. The F4 could also carry a podded gun
"It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon… for twelve seconds."
The F16 still packs a punch all these years later, an iconic bird
5 seconds for the entire magazine? You better not miss!
The plane's onboard computer limits the gun to short bursts to preserve ammunition.
Id imagine its short half second bursts.
@@kevinforget549 My understanding is it fires in bursts of 20-50 rounds but I'm not certain about that.
big weekend warrior fan are ya? not a magazine and that's quite a bit of time
@@whofookncares2149 ironic name
As an F-16 pilot once told me, if you have to use your gun, you already fucked up.
And thats why the f-35 has no gun, (it has a gun pod attachment because of FUDS and Reformers) and new rifles don’t have bayonets.
The only thing you should do if you find yourself having to use the gun on a fighter, or the bayonet on your rifle, is find the officers who put you in that situation and have some kind words with them.
@@purplepenguin43you have the bayonet on your rifle to use on your officers!
Too close for missles, I’m switching to guns
@@purplepenguin43 Still the F-35A intended for Air Force strategy and doctrines have built in Gatling cannon
Would an F-16 still occasionally do CAS gun runs, or is its gatling not really meant for that at all? Asking in case video game depictions of the F-16 are blatantly inaccurate
'We're taking casualties! Requesting a dubstep sample from the air immediately!'
'Got ya, over.'
*Brrrzzzzz....YaaYUaaAAaaaa*
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“Why are you reading a washing machine manual?”
General Electric
*_TheRussianBager_*
“This is not a washing machine manual.”
"Wdym it says general electrics right there"
One makes things clean, the other dissapear
"One spins to make things clean, one spin to make things disappear"
- a wise man
Source is Russian Badger's A10 short. For those unaware.
gotta love the russian badger
I watched that video, too! 😂 lol
@@BenChristensen-um3ml based
If one of those is after you ... Your hamburger meat .
first time i have EVER heard an F-16 firing its gun like that, and I was not expecting such a wickedly cool sound
You ever think a fish has a bad day when they fire off over the ocean like that
Former F16 armament specialist here....this entire weapon package fits neatly directly behind the pilot....the gun itself is a marval of machine work as it is so small....the spent rounds do not get ejected but will stay recycled inside the rotary drum magazine
CIWS tech here. That's my gun in your plane. I think that's an awesome use for it.
On the CIWS we can run the gun with a pneumatic drive so the fire rate is 4500/min. but we can't get it to fly😂
Crazy how you guys are casually commenting on CZcams about a weapon on a multi million dollar craft that I fell in love with as a kid from watching top gun, and I get to comment along with…wth
@@ryanmartin4602more like our gun on your ship. Built for the AF back in the 50’s and still goin strong although through several modifications. The navy put longer barrels on it and it works well for y’all too.
Civi question! If it can only hold what seems to be a limited number of rounds, why make the fire rate so high as to “run out quicker” I’m not saying or thinking of a spray and pray and I get the other fighter will only be in front for a split second but if the rate of fire was slowed, the velocity should stay the same but you get more use from the weapon?? Also, is it more of like a side arm? “If you have to use them, you’re already fucked” mussels first type beat?
@@zachbogan4674when you only get a split second to hit something would you rather hit it 10 times or 50 times? In that split second you don’t want your target to live and be able to shoot back.
The f16 is such a timeless and beautiful aircraft ngl
Worked on F-15Es, F-16s and F-22s. Had an incentive flight on the 15 and 16. Of my career, the F-16 was my favorite. It's an unbelievable aircraft, especially with the concurrent and recent CCIP modifications and updates on the new blocks.
Hard to believe the F16 is a 1970’s design…. It still looks very modern.
It's grown on me a lot. I was shocked to see in person how much smaller it is than an F-15 (and presumably F-14).
@@p99guy I agree
Since I was a kid, I see them regularly, in my area, never get tired of seing them fly by
I absolutely love that we made the actual world's first hypersonic to fit the coolest war machines we've ever made. I mean when you combine the F-22 with a hypersonic you literally have badass in physical form.
Love the A-10 and it will put in major hell on the ground like nothing else, but the F-16 is a little monster and it can effectively handle most situations.
I was an aircraft armament technician on the F-16. The gun system was my favorite part of the job. Worked backshop maintenance and flight line operations. Exciting times!
Armament Technician..., weapons. You we're weapons. 😉
Это не ты ли Боинг собираешь который постоянно падает? С пушками тоже так будет?
@@clydefreeman1067 yes
i must say, these f16s give lots of power
@@Vi3tKid420 yeah for sure! I got an incentive ride in one over S. Korea. Pulled 8.7 g's and still have my air sickness bags lol!
I had the opportunity to work on the M61A1 for the F-14 and F-18 aircraft and it was awesome. We even fired 25 rounds in the firing tunnel at Pax River Maryland and I hate to admit it was an incredible experience to feel your body shaking 25 times before you realize that it fired.
I noticed the guy using a hand tool to load the rounds.
Do they ever allow the use of power tools for that part (likeduring actual wartime for instance)?
Or it's it just to delicate/dangerous?
With that firerate all you felt must be just 0.25 seconds of a zrrt lmao
@@mdenizcoban The firing rate in the ground for the M61A1 is 7,200 rounds per minute so based on my calculations it was .00347 of a second.
@@tracewallace23 They do use a power tool once in a while but gun conveyors jam often so they have to be careful.
@@melendjam General Electric's website says 6000 rpm for its firerate though
"Is there a single fire setting? I'm on a budget"
ATF
Maybe try a 20 round burst mode to conserve ammo and not run dry too soon?
The M61 is the DADDY to the GAU-8. This thing was on the F-104 folks.. btw, it is a rotary CANNON. Not a "machine gun"...
"Cousin of the GAU-8"
The M61 is more like the dad, considering it came decades before the GAU-8. It was basically THE electric gatling gun that popularized the concept of such as aircraft armament and paved the way for mass adoption of electric gatlings. The GAU-8 as a weapon wouldn't exist if not for the M61.
That's it...
M61 walked so GAU-8 could run.
Or more accurately, M61 “brrrt”ed so GAU-8 could “BRRRT”.
F-16 rotary cannon: hits the target
A-10 rotary cannon: hits the targ- wait shit that was a British convoy
Too soon
"What do you mean IFF? You have Mk. 1 eyeballs with a 'binocular' attatchment!"
Ooooof
Nope. lost a good friend in that one!@@markzambelli
@@chrishewitt4220Sorry to hear that. Blue on Green is a lesson we should have learned a century ago.
The GAU8 is actually the enfant terrible of the M61 Vulcan, which came into being in the 1960s because the USAF struggled to find a regular cannon that didn't have issues, it has been and still is the best aircraft mounted gun system period. And Goes back as far as the century series fighters, the F104 was the 1st.
In just over 5 seconds? Ha!! get on my level, I unload my entire load in just 3 seconds 😂
🤢
"It weighs one hundred and fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar custom-tooled cartridges at a rate of ten thousand rounds per minute... It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds."
Best comment ever!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Yay all with USA tax Money
I call bullshit on that. There's no way such a mass-produced cartridge costs 2000$ per pop.
@@user-bi7xd8ry5p
Exactly. Even HEDP rounds aren't that much even accounting for fusing. Scale of manufacturing states that. The more you make of something the less each unit of that thing will cost. So yeah, bullshit.
wow
Need to clarify, the M61 is not a smaller version of the GAU-8, quite the opposite. The M61 Vulcan entered service in 1959, and the GAU-8 entered in ‘77, based off the existing M61 Vulcan design.
He said smaller cousin as in they’re both Gatling type guns. Don’t think he was saying the M61 was based on the GAU-8. Just that they’re in the same family of type of gun. Thanks for the fun fact though anyway.
as awesome as the gatling gun is, its like having a cd player in your 2024 tesla 🥹
That is the same as saying that the GAU-8 is the bigger version.
Being a different version makes no inference of which came first.
The opposite of being a smaller version, would be being a bigger version.
Blaine used the smaller cousin in predator.
As someone who doesnt like guns cause of the destructive power, that sound is still one of the wildest things ive heard that fascinates me
They learned from the blunder of the cannon-less F-4 Phantom.
"It costs 400,000$ to fire this weapon for 12 seconds"
[Edit]: I'm surprised how many commentators didn't get the reference
Can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find this comment.
Yes America getting ripped off as always
didnt they say it unloads full capacity in 5 seconds?
You would really wanna be dead on target, seems like a mostly back up weapon
12 seconds? Where’d you get that from?
@@lennartjuhh tf2 meet the heavy reference
Ugggh, As a USAF Ammo troop, I remember having to dump cans of these rounds out on a grounded table, count them, then load them into a UAL and run them out to the flightline to load into the aircraft. Read some comments in here and thought I would add that these blue headed rounds are for training, like at the gun range for aircraft for instance, but we also had high explosive rounds and armor piercing rounds for those that said this gun wasn't effective for vehicles. LOL. These guns will hardly ever be used for aircraft to aircraft battles, because it just doesnt happen that often anymore. Regardless, these guns when loaded with the proper ammo types will straight up murder soft targets, vehicles, radar and SAM sites or anything else if bombs and missles are expended. For anything like heavy armored vehicles like tanks, buildings, and wide areas of targets, the 105MM round from the AC-130 Gunship will get the job done and also has different round types depending on target. Same for the A-10 and every other aircraft. You have to think about all the different types of ammo or munitions available, make the best choice of available ammo types for the mission, etc. to get the job done fast and effective. The way the combat sorties are planned out is kind of like ordering pizza for the aircraft, but are usually already built or loaded in a deployed environment prior to missions due to rapid deployment priorities. In a non combat or training environment, they tell us what they need, we inspect, count, and load or build them, then deliver them. Gun rounds, bombs, missiles, countermeasures, and everything else that goes boom. We also have to recycle all the brass from expended rounds.
Thanks for serving. Interesting information from your viewpoint as well.
You had to MANUALLY COUNT those rounds?!
@@baked_beans_779 I barely know how to use a BB gun lol
@@karnagefails333 I meant the aircraft but yeah
@@baked_beans_779 Shit, I'm sorry dude 🤣
F16 is like a cousin that works 9-5 while A10 is a cousin that invites you for a beer and a redbull on tuesday night
Thats why they fire only when ready. Quick burst is all thats needed because those rounds are no joke on target.
I love the way it got integrated to the airplane bodywork, so neat and elegant ❤
I used to work the radio at Avon Park Gunnery Range near Sebring, FL and can still hear in my mind the bzzzzzzzzzt of those 20mm Vulcans. Even after 50 years.
I was the ammo handling system Project Engineer for both the F-15E and the F-16 at General Dynamics in Vermont. During acceptance testing, these things would really rip. So impressive. Hunters who illegally hunted at the firing range would hear the pre-fire alarm go off and would duck behind a tree. They were incredibly naive. 😅
"Switching to guns"
"Be carful now, remember, 5 seconds of fire!"
Air Force A-7Ds had the same gun; we sent our planes to National Guard and Reserve units when we got the first of the A-10s in 1978. A well proven weapon.
"A Massive cannon for a Tiny aircraft"
See babe. I am an F16 😅
Oh come on bro why
@@SirNobleIZH Lol
Bruh.
Fuckin King 🙌🏽
Lol!
Fun fact: in addition to the Air Force's F-16 and other aircraft, the M61 is also the heart of the Navy's CIWS onboard ships and the Army's C-RAM. Thank you General Electric!
It’s been General Dynamics for years. A lot of serious engineering went into system development and testing. The basic gun has remained essentially the same (M61A1/A2) but the creative ways the ammunition handling systems have morphed to fit space constraints is very impressive.
They’re on the 18’s too
Or the simpler version for those that don’t know what it looks like: R2D2 with a gatling gun that shoots down missiles and mortars.
The F-16 has to be one of the most beautiful aircraft ever
I don’t think my mind can comprehend how some type of machinery can throw 100 rounds a second down range like that just seems out of this world
When the sky starts screaming at you in tv static, RUN.
🏆
You’re already dead if you hear that noise
😂😂😂😂 damn this comment is pure gold man
If you heard it, either you weren't the target or you got very lucky.
The rounds are supersonic: they arrive on target before the sound they emit.
You will get killed or see devastation around you before you hear that sound
at those airshows the crackling you hear of the plane firing is actually the bullets impacting the terrain or passing by.
The Wuuu that comes after is the actual plane firing them, pitched up because of the doppler effect
🤯
They don't fire live rounds at airshows.
@@fernandorosales2418 you've never been to Axalp then. The bullet impacts targets less than 800mt from the crowd. They're non-trace training rounds, but still those are real bullets flying in the air and they sound exactly like this.
Blanks are not a thing for the vulcan
@fernandorosales2418 they will do strafing runs in front of live audiences. They use TP or blue tip rounds. Really common. Actually.
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 surely it's not less then 800 meters from the crowd, that is scary close and surely ricochets could be an issue.
Would like to see video of this
The GAU-8 A was made by General Electric, the guys who may also have made your refrigerator, stove, and laundry machines.
Both the AC-130A and AC-130H "Spectre" Gunship had 2 of these left side of the Fuselage.
Tfw f-16 ammo drum lasts longer than you do 😔
Can get about 510 rounds in the drum, chutes and gun when installing rounds through.
Depending on how the slack is whenever we reinstall a gun, sometimes you can get 511 in.
That extra round when the gun is set to 3000/minute is an extra 20 milliseconds of fire time, lol.
Slow down hahaha
Out of missiles, switching to guns... Topgun Maverick 👍🇺🇲
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@@guppygb6078 god I hope that’s sarcasm.
@@TheRobe- Nope. You should fly the flag too. I put it on my truck so everyone knows that Biden is the BOSS. 🇺🇸
The M-61 is one of the best things the military ever bought. I could disassemble and reassemble the basic gun by the book in less than 5 minutes.
Crazy that the work on creating that gun started right after ww2. Just a marvel that they chose a gatling approach when so many others settled on revolver cannons
Now imagine one of these being carried around by a half naked Inuit in a -20C freezer.
What 😂
@@kingdedede1066Look up metal gear solid
Mainly the second Vulcan Raven fight
@@kingdedede1066it's a reference to Vulcan Raven from metal gear solid
@@solidsnake-er9ik thanks
Ah, just another day at the office, I see.
F16: SAY HELLO TO MA LITTLE FRIEND
Lifeline reference?
Привет от МиГ-29 или от Су-27?😂
It sounds like the little bro of the A-10's gun. It's weirdly adorable.
Fighter jets: we have guns 😅
GAU-8: I have an aircraft 😂
AC-130: I have an entire artillery battery 🤣
Massive respect and appreciation to all the technicians, specialists and mechanics doing all the hard work behind the scenes keeping those Fighter Jets well armed and in perfect mechanical condition.
All of you deserve equal glory and gratitude as the pilots get. Without all of you breaking your backs and technical/mechanical knowledge. Those pilots would not be flying anything.
The 16 is a very labor intensive aircraft, I can speak from personal experience.
@@bikeislife8405how many hours does it take to make one?
@@mohamedsaid9416 I've only maintained them, a gun system install can take up to 8 hours!
That explains why I love firing the F-16 in any fighter aircraft game. their gun sound is different
"Different."
F-100 Super Saber:
F-105 Thunderchief:
F-106 Delta Dart:
F-111 Aardvark:
F-4 Phantom II:
F-14 Tomcat:
F-15 Eagle:
F-16 Fighting Falcon:
YF-17 Cobra:
F/A-18 Hornet:
F-22 Raptor:
One of my favorite jet fighters never knew how the gun sounded till today awesome
I first heard this magnificent beautiful sound from its big brother in the Warthog in Battlefield Desert Combat, 2 decades ago. Iykyk.
They had these guns in a towed version in the 82nd airborne until after Dessert Shield/Storm in an air defense/anti-armor roll. As a weapon fired at ground targets it was terrifying to watch, feel and listen to. At night it spit 10 foot of flame and the rounds lit up and shredded whatever was in its way. Besides 2000lbs JDAMs they were the most violent weapon I’ve witnessed. They were an amazing psychological weapon alone.
You are referring to the M167 VADS. honestly its probably worth re adopting for dealing with drones today.
Modern day dragons.
@@dominuslogik484We have; the C-RAM Centurion uses the same high-speed 20mm autocannon as the M167 attached to more capable fire control systems.
“Rotary Gatling gun” yes
Now I'm imagining six gatling cannons mounted to a backplate with its own spinning motor
@@tothemaxx1991 omg yes, the gatling gatling gun
Rotary machine gun is more accurate.
But we love the 1800s reference.
@@dannybryant6873 Rotary cannon
@@tothemaxx1991the legendary, and thus far only theoretical "radial galling gun."
WW2 Old school pilots: Ra ta ta ta ta ta ta
Modern fighter Jets: BRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Predator: ol’ painless is waiting.
A-10: ol’ you ain’t never gonna find out.
My entire years salary in one spray
USAF 2W1 here. Copypasta meme-ry aside, we reuse the spent brass and with TP rounds, a normal sortie is 50-150 rounds expended (Almost never seen a full drum of 510 used in testing). Given the material cost of repacking, it's 115-350 dollars per sortie.
But we only fire live rounds in a TDY operation which is two to three times a year.
During an entire Operation Redflag in Nellis, for two weeks, the total cost of gun repacking may get to your pay for a few months.
It's one of the cheapest expenditures considering the other munitions we use during those TDYs. Chaff and Flare are the other cheap cost option, similar to the rounds.
@@janus3555 definitely cheaper than running a test on Aegis or Patriot systems with live fire lmao
“Smaller cousin of the A10s GAU8A. But it can still turn a human into a veneer”
And as we all know, sound is all that matters on social media.I mean the battle zone
"I'm heavy weapons guy ... and this is my weapon"
now that's a lot of freedom
That video of the sound is my favorite video on the internet.
Loading the machine gun with a socket wrench is genius
My brain still can’t comprehend 16 rounds in one second
20mm are a lot of things but tiny isn't one of them..
Got it; this is about aircraft but on a battleship the 20mm Oerlikons are pretty tiny upside the 40mm Bofors, 3" AA guns, 5" secondaries and 14" WWI or 16" WWII main guns.
COD Warzone did an amazing job replicating that iconic sound. Even in the game it has a trademark sound.
Ever since I was a kid the F-16 has been my favourite jet.
Same gun as the Mk15 Phalanx CIWS. Having heard it first-hand, I can tell you that it sounds beautiful!❤
I heavily prefer the m61 over the gau8 in terms of sound because it sounds hella aggressive and not so much like a fart
Fires faster too in part because it's electrically fired and not percussion like the A-10. Also, M61A1 use hard brass vs aluminum for the GAU-8.
GAU-8 does not sound like a fart when you hear it in person. Sounds more like thunder.
I get the pleasure of hearing this multiple times a week. My neighborhood is near two bomb ranges in the swamp. I can hear them circle around then it gets quiet for a second then BRRRRRRR. It never gets old.
The sound really is quite something. I remember the sound quite well. We were on a school trip to Vlieland in the Netherlands where we got a militairy demonstration with F-16's shooting at targets ... It was atleast 1 km away from us where they started shooting at old tanks and the sound the guns made still scared the crap out of me the first time 😅... They also dropped a few bombs which sounded far less impressive then the guns.
That’s a serious weapon, especially on a sleek as sonic jet. 😮
There's my baby. I help design a section of it.
Wait fr?
He’s lying for attention….
@@Davis-pe6ljhe’s lying for attention
wasn't the f16 developed in the 70s?
Sure you did
*If your close enough to use that GUN*
then you're too close.
not if you're helping on a CAS mission
well if you are following a slow cruise missile sometimes you can intercept without needing to use several hundred thousand dollar missiles to do what a few hundred bucks worth of ammo will do instead. also you might want that missile to deal with a jet rather than a largely defenseless cruise missile. *edit* or drone
Still the Portuguese Airforce's fighter jet, what an awesome plane!
F-16 will be my favorite Air force aircraft and the A-10 Warthog will forever be my favorite Gun-Ship.