The difference between a 75w CPU and a 120w CPU, isn’t much different on your electric bill 😂. If you play PC games for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, you are saving less than $10 a year. That’s less than $1 a month.. You people obsess over how many watts a PC uses but don’t understand how little it actually matters. If you’re that worried about saving $10 a year on electricity you shouldn’t be spending money on a PC.
Only under full load. Idle and low performance tasks like watching a movie doing some office and pc thing intel will take less power than amd. So if you 50/50 high load, low load it might not make a huge difference
Dude I managed to snatch mine for $299 sealed, brand new. Build a custom loop for it, and it is a beast…the thing just doesn’t hiccup and has never reached 80C playing AAA titles or competitive games…I have no regrets
I've never understood why people say this, the majority of people do not make enough to just throw money at the new line of hardware that comes out. @@elvpse
Most folks don't upgrade their PC every month, it's a logical investment made for 2-3 years minimum. If you buy an i5 14th gen now, you wont need to upgrade your PC for like 2-3 yrs minumum.
I have plans of getting a pc built with a 4080S and 7800x3d or 14700K should I do it or postpone since new Cpus mobos and gpus are coming fyi im on a 7 year old laptop with integrated graphics 8gb ram and i5 7th gen cpu (idk which)
Upgrading is good, but people don't need to consider it if the don't upgrade for atleast 4-5 years. If you buy powerful pc , then you certainly don't need to upgrade i that time span. Well thats just what i think.
and even then hardware nowadays is hitting their limit - clock speeds havent practically past 4-4.5ghz in the average consumer space in about a decade, and most games still run beautifully on older hardware albeit with their own caveats (poor multitasking, no AI frame support, power efficiency etc). For example the 3900x is about 5 years old, but can still fully utilize the highest performing gpu, the 4090, with about 99% efficiency at 4k in most graphically intensive applications (ie gaming)
@@zxqhyreven when u not upgrading every year.. most Gamer i know upgrading their CPU every 4-6 years so Upgrade path of an Socket is Not an Option. I for example Upgrade next year from an 5930 to an 9000x3d
I am a 3d artist and a programmer a generation of cpus can drop a 1 hour render into a 50 minute render and its worth it for me so i guess for proffesional work
The reason why one would buy a 7600 now is not to upgrade to a hypothetical 9800X3D next year. It's to upgrade to a hypothetical 9800X3D (or even a newer CPU, if AM5 lasts for 3 actual generations) after AM6 comes out. Then, when you need a replacement, you can skip AM6 and go for AM7.
@@DiabolicalDilemma_ but how much do those 10 minutes matter to you? And excuse the ignorance, but wouldn't you preferably want one of those hot threadrippers for rendering?
Naw Zach, AM5 will be around for a few years. Hell, I'm on a 5600x / 6700XT combo w 32GB of DDR4 and I don't see me going to AM5 for another 3-4 years. Esp. if I can still get a 5700x3D in a year or 2.
I'm 5800x but same everything else, I'm likely skipping the AM5 system entirely. Probably gonna go AM6. SURE as hell not doing Intel again though, likely ever.
Yes, but the thing is that it rules the market when it comes to the most powerful cpu, if price is not taken as a factor. And for that reason, if any person earns enough to buy it, they will definitely buy it. AMD is only for those who can't afford powerful chips. But when it comes to servers, the situation suddenly is in a flippity floppity.
It should not happen. If there will be no competition from intel then amd will become what intel was a decade ago "GREEDY" Competition makes the market stable and provides value for money products to customers.
If the cheaper option is less future-proof, less upgradable, and less powerful, your paying more over time for less performance per watt and per dollar spent.
I don't think that AMD will leave us with just 9000 series. Just remember for how long they have kept AM4 alive.. I believe they are going to do the same thing with AM5
I was thinking about this earlier, and I have a suspicion that amd may plan to stay with am5 until they design an arm V cpu. Granted I know very little about all of this and was just doing some reading on the trajectory of arm V and thinking about the lifespan of am5. It would only need to be one more am5 generation after 9000 and we would be there easily.
I need to help my pc every time i turn it of it just goes into the bios without me touching anything and every time I try to leave it just opens up again
I generally ride out a few processor generations between upgrades myself, by the time im ready for a cpu upgrade its generally time for a new motherboard anyway, i will usually do one gpu upgrade in the middle of the systems lifetime to milk the mobo/cpu for a bit longer, you dont always need to have bleeding edge hardware to play games, but i always go for the highest end cpu is at the time i upgrade since you can usually go longer between than if you buy mid range chips, im still running a 5yr old threadripper at the moment and my kids are still playing current gen games on my previous rig that has a 4th gen I7 extreme, cpus arent making the huge jumps generation to generation that they used to so they stay relevant way longer now than they used to
DDR5 isn't even fully mainstream yet (you can still use ddr4 with LGA1700) and ur already talking about DDR6??? And, even if zen6 will be on AM5, it'll be called ryzen 11000 (If AMD decides to continue their naming scheme: Zen (1): 1000 Zen+: 2000 Zen 2: 3000 Zen 3: 5000 Zen 4: 7000 Zen 5: 9000 Zen 6: 11000 See the pattern? Every fully new architecture (zen+ was refresh) it ups by 2000. And what if Zen 7 will be on AM5? What are your sources???
Bought an AMD B650 motherboard, luckily the tech shop I bought it from offered to update the bios for the Ryzen 8600G I bought, they couldn't get it to post, came back the next day and they offered me a 5 7600 and a partial refund with the board would post with the update and newer cpu
I get some people think about upgrades, but like many people, I'm keeping my cpu/motherboard for 5 years optimistically. Upgrade availability is nice, and having the newest is sweet, but the best value is to keep using what you got. Of course in places where there is a solid 2nd hand market, upgrades, and selling old CPUs becomes more interesting.
I only replaced my first-gen i7 last year, and only THEN because some of the new games required instruction sets that it just didn't support. When I bought my 12th-gen i7 last year, I was planning that it would last me another decade.
Even if this is the case, I highly doubt that AMD will step off the throne of being the best price to performance when it comes go gaming anytime soon.
upgrade paths are important, but if you are on a very tight budget, it is ok to sacrifice it as long as you are informed of what it will mean to the future of your pc. Long live DDR4
I am currently waiting for the 9000 series releases because the 7000ers hopefully become a bit cheaper, and I have my upgrade path to the 9000ers in 3 years. So I don't expect a shift within the next 6 months, and first of all, we need the 15th generation from Intel
I could see am5 being a 10 year deal kinda like how am4 has been. They might come out with am5+/6 in a few years, but I’m sure they will still release new processors for am5 for a while.
How do I convince my parents to cover the cpu, gpu, software cost and labour cost. I can’t (by law) get a job and don’t want to pay loads for those as those are the most expensive I’m also building it in a shop to learn how to do this as I learn from experience so that’s where the labour comes from
Ive been an amd fan for a long time. By tge time im planning on upgrading the cpu I'll probably need a new mobo, and will probably be ready for what ever is past the 9000 ryzen series
even if there is nothing coming after 9000 series, and that's a big if, you'd still have enough power to last until the second generation of DDR6 boards.
The benefit of AM5 is not have a cpu that's actively trying to fold itself in half under load. Also deliding not being all but mandatory for reasonable temps at higher tiers.
My CPU has been made 6 years ago, and it is still working. I actually want to upgrade it, but it'll require a lot of changes in my PC. For now I'm considering an option within 2600$ budget. I hope this upgrade will be good for next 6 years. In case you're wondering I have I7-7700, GTX 1660TI, 16GB DDR4, and Asus B250, Prime motherboard
![How does Computer Hardware Work? 💻🛠🔬 [3D Animated Teardown]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/d86ws7mQYIg/mqdefault.jpg)
I dont think AM5 would end so soon, AM4 is older than my grandma and its still going
Its 2016 tho
TF???
@@The_Divergenthyperbole
@@The_Divergent...
These kinds are fking around too much
@@The_Divergent It's like calling a 90s baby a grandparent. Hyperbole.
Intel will come out with a new socket soon, the 15th gen will cost my other kidney.
If ur kidney is priced at 200 bucks thew wtf u doing with ur life💀
@@IcallMYSELFomen😂
@@IcallMYSELFomenmy kidney worth less than $1, cant even sell both of my kidneys for a cpu😂
@@gladiatorgamer9502 quit smoking and alcohol then they will be about 5000$ each in 1 yr
@@IcallMYSELFomen*_😂_*
I wouldn’t want an intel chip until they figure out the power consumption issues.
I u can spend on an i7 then u should be able to afford 50 bucks of electricity bill😂
The difference between a 75w CPU and a 120w CPU, isn’t much different on your electric bill 😂. If you play PC games for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, you are saving less than $10 a year. That’s less than $1 a month..
You people obsess over how many watts a PC uses but don’t understand how little it actually matters. If you’re that worried about saving $10 a year on electricity you shouldn’t be spending money on a PC.
@@LegionGamingTVmore watts it uses the hotter it will run. Also your psu might cannot deliver the power.
@@IcallMYSELFomenit doesn’t matter about that, it matter about the heat it produces and the fact that you literally might need 2x 8 pin cpu cables
Only under full load. Idle and low performance tasks like watching a movie doing some office and pc thing intel will take less power than amd. So if you 50/50 high load, low load it might not make a huge difference
Bro I’m seeing this on my way back from picking up my 7800X3D💀💀💀
Lmfao. I think you’re good for 4-5 years man. 7800x3d is a beast.
@@elvpsejust copped one, i disagree
@@Ahad-bj1cz TRUE
Dude I managed to snatch mine for $299 sealed, brand new. Build a custom loop for it, and it is a beast…the thing just doesn’t hiccup and has never reached 80C playing AAA titles or competitive games…I have no regrets
I've never understood why people say this, the majority of people do not make enough to just throw money at the new line of hardware that comes out. @@elvpse
Reasons for am5:
Future proof (am4 is still going)
Price
Energy consumption/efficiency
"New stuff are better than old stuff, but in the future new stuff are worst than new new stuff" masterclass analysis
The basis of every CZcams tech advertising- er, entertainment video.
@@degeneratepervert6255of course! And dont forget to hit his affiliate links for the new new new stuff 😂
Most folks don't upgrade their PC every month, it's a logical investment made for 2-3 years minimum.
If you buy an i5 14th gen now, you wont need to upgrade your PC for like 2-3 yrs minumum.
Preach, brother, preach!
I have plans of getting a pc built with a 4080S and 7800x3d or 14700K should I do it or postpone since new Cpus mobos and gpus are coming fyi im on a 7 year old laptop with integrated graphics 8gb ram and i5 7th gen cpu (idk which)
@@GodSlayer554ryzens for now at least, are still gonna be better value for couple more years
@@GodSlayer554get the 7800x3d
for real, you can have a 3rd gen i5, 16 gb ram, and a gpu like a gt 1030 or gtx 1050 and it would be perfectly fine for todays standards
Upgrading is good, but people don't need to consider it if the don't upgrade for atleast 4-5 years. If you buy powerful pc , then you certainly don't need to upgrade i that time span.
Well thats just what i think.
It's a good thought. Affording the games will be the tough part.
and even then hardware nowadays is hitting their limit - clock speeds havent practically past 4-4.5ghz in the average consumer space in about a decade, and most games still run beautifully on older hardware albeit with their own caveats (poor multitasking, no AI frame support, power efficiency etc).
For example the 3900x is about 5 years old, but can still fully utilize the highest performing gpu, the 4090, with about 99% efficiency at 4k in most graphically intensive applications (ie gaming)
I may not need to, but sure has hell i WANT too
First of all why would someone need upgrade their cpu every year?
no one said about upgrading every year?
@@zxqhyreven when u not upgrading every year.. most Gamer i know upgrading their CPU every 4-6 years so Upgrade path of an Socket is Not an Option. I for example Upgrade next year from an 5930 to an 9000x3d
I am a 3d artist and a programmer a generation of cpus can drop a 1 hour render into a 50 minute render and its worth it for me so i guess for proffesional work
The reason why one would buy a 7600 now is not to upgrade to a hypothetical 9800X3D next year. It's to upgrade to a hypothetical 9800X3D (or even a newer CPU, if AM5 lasts for 3 actual generations) after AM6 comes out. Then, when you need a replacement, you can skip AM6 and go for AM7.
@@DiabolicalDilemma_ but how much do those 10 minutes matter to you? And excuse the ignorance, but wouldn't you preferably want one of those hot threadrippers for rendering?
itd be nice if intel could keep their performance for more than a week
And not suck your power outlet dry in 2 hours
@@revenant5 so true
@@revenant5and easily cook your eggs and bacon
You crazy AMD doesn't even compete. What reverse world bubble are you living in.
@@Sphynx00 if you stayed up to date there have been real issues with intel cpu's recently, like powerloss and over heating
15th gen will just be an actual stable 14th gen that doesn’t die after a couple months
15th gen seems more major than the last couple gens
@@FlipJz It better be, 14th gen is basically 12th gen ++
@@matthijsvandeweerd1415 12th gen was actually solid, im sad weve not seen any large upgrade since
@@chickenbobbobbaRaptor Lake was pretty major too, it was just too damn hot and power hungry
So you hope...
Naw Zach, AM5 will be around for a few years. Hell, I'm on a 5600x / 6700XT combo w 32GB of DDR4 and I don't see me going to AM5 for another 3-4 years. Esp. if I can still get a 5700x3D in a year or 2.
I'm 5800x but same everything else, I'm likely skipping the AM5 system entirely. Probably gonna go AM6. SURE as hell not doing Intel again though, likely ever.
Intel will never beat Amd on price to performance
Yes, but the thing is that it rules the market when it comes to the most powerful cpu, if price is not taken as a factor. And for that reason, if any person earns enough to buy it, they will definitely buy it. AMD is only for those who can't afford powerful chips.
But when it comes to servers, the situation suddenly is in a flippity floppity.
Nor energy efficiency. lol
a380 beats 1650 at a price of $120 new for low profile.
Not everyone is obsessed with price to performance.
It should not happen. If there will be no competition from intel then amd will become what intel was a decade ago "GREEDY"
Competition makes the market stable and provides value for money products to customers.
7000,8000,9000 series.... Thats good for AM5 for the recent year 🎉
cuz 7 8 9
All these new cpus don’t mean shit when pc gaming is held back by gpu vram.
Usually not an issue for AMD.
@@dalehammers4425same for intel lol
Cough Cough nvidia
Zack u are always the Licht in my depression and problems ❤
I don't care about the better or more powerful option, I care about the cheaper option
Agreed
If the cheaper option is less future-proof, less upgradable, and less powerful, your paying more over time for less performance per watt and per dollar spent.
I would never get am4 right now. I3 13100f is a much better upgrade path than a 3600.
Yeah sure if I wanna upgrade my setup every year that's delightful
No.
Repeat after me: while upgradability is a nice thing, you should always build the best pc you can today.
I don't think that AMD will leave us with just 9000 series. Just remember for how long they have kept AM4 alive.. I believe they are going to do the same thing with AM5
Me too my I5-3570k : whose a good quad core, you are!
Until Intel solve thei power consumption issue, I won't believe everything Intel say. At least I will still see what Battlemage will bring
Oh yes, I cant wait for my 15th gen room heater.
*Looks at my 5600X* "You're still good"
I was thinking about this earlier, and I have a suspicion that amd may plan to stay with am5 until they design an arm V cpu. Granted I know very little about all of this and was just doing some reading on the trajectory of arm V and thinking about the lifespan of am5. It would only need to be one more am5 generation after 9000 and we would be there easily.
we need another situation like the 1151
26th day and 78th time asking ZTT to make an overkill ($3000+) ITX pc build guide.
I'm glad your lights are working again!😂
This is why I’m staying old school. Still using my 3770k and as rock Z77 pro mb
I love the Wrestling gifs
me casually chilling with a 4th gen i5
I moved to Ryzen from a 6700k personally and I will likely never go Intel again.
If the 9000 series is the last on am5 intel could have a better upgrade path until am6 releases and amd will have a better upgrade path for many Years
Great timing dude, just got my new pc upgrades for my amd pc.
I need to help my pc every time i turn it of it just goes into the bios without me touching anything and every time I try to leave it just opens up again
Bro I'm still rocking a 7500 and 2 480s. This year is the first year where I can't play a new games
CPU is literally the hardest thing to upgrade in a computer though like from a building standpoint
Waiting for new Intel real benchmarks. Hope it will be more good than expensive o)
I generally ride out a few processor generations between upgrades myself, by the time im ready for a cpu upgrade its generally time for a new motherboard anyway, i will usually do one gpu upgrade in the middle of the systems lifetime to milk the mobo/cpu for a bit longer, you dont always need to have bleeding edge hardware to play games, but i always go for the highest end cpu is at the time i upgrade since you can usually go longer between than if you buy mid range chips, im still running a 5yr old threadripper at the moment and my kids are still playing current gen games on my previous rig that has a 4th gen I7 extreme, cpus arent making the huge jumps generation to generation that they used to so they stay relevant way longer now than they used to
Ryzen 9000, Ryzen 9000X3D and Zen6 (Ryzen 10000) will be on Am5 with DDR5. Zen 7 will be on new Amd socket and DDR6 supported.
Source - "Trust me bro"
DDR5 isn't even fully mainstream yet (you can still use ddr4 with LGA1700) and ur already talking about DDR6??? And, even if zen6 will be on AM5, it'll be called ryzen 11000 (If AMD decides to continue their naming scheme:
Zen (1): 1000
Zen+: 2000
Zen 2: 3000
Zen 3: 5000
Zen 4: 7000
Zen 5: 9000
Zen 6: 11000
See the pattern? Every fully new architecture (zen+ was refresh) it ups by 2000.
And what if Zen 7 will be on AM5? What are your sources???
Bought an AMD B650 motherboard, luckily the tech shop I bought it from offered to update the bios for the Ryzen 8600G I bought, they couldn't get it to post, came back the next day and they offered me a 5 7600 and a partial refund with the board would post with the update and newer cpu
I get some people think about upgrades, but like many people, I'm keeping my cpu/motherboard for 5 years optimistically. Upgrade availability is nice, and having the newest is sweet, but the best value is to keep using what you got. Of course in places where there is a solid 2nd hand market, upgrades, and selling old CPUs becomes more interesting.
You know you don’t always have to have the latest cpu 💀
Dang first time bro wasn't dumping in amd
13th 14th gen DYING from silicon degradation on stock bios 💀
Aint no way AM5 is going to die this early
DDR6 MEMORY = NEW AM6 SOCKET. Wait for 2026-7😅
Bro i love you, my parents bought me a gaming pc because of your video
I only replaced my first-gen i7 last year, and only THEN because some of the new games required instruction sets that it just didn't support. When I bought my 12th-gen i7 last year, I was planning that it would last me another decade.
Bought a 12th i5 2 years ago got upgraded all the way up to 14th not too long ago so I'm pretty happy
Even if this is the case, I highly doubt that AMD will step off the throne of being the best price to performance when it comes go gaming anytime soon.
Potential and chance are very big words for Intel buddy
Yes it may have. "MAY"
upgrade paths are important, but if you are on a very tight budget, it is ok to sacrifice it as long as you are informed of what it will mean to the future of your pc.
Long live DDR4
Will Intel room heaters with CPU capabilities turn into actual CPU though ?
AM4 came out in 2016 and the first AM5 cpu was what, September 2022? That’s 6 years. AMD knows how pissed we would be if they ended AM5 after 9000
Meanwhile here I am planning to build a PC with am4 socket lmao
Can still make some monster systems on the AM4 socket, its what I'm using and no complaints.
Intel needs a X3D competitor, their price to performance is unmatched
Bro I'm still using an Intel core i5 inside
Thats not really saying much, that could be a chip from over 10 years ago or a chip from 10 days ago...
its from 12 years ago, im on a 12 year old lenovo thinkpad running on an arch linux wayland system
Planning on getting an i7, I don’t plan on upgrading for a long time and if I do it will probably be a prebuilt anyways
I am currently waiting for the 9000 series releases because the 7000ers hopefully become a bit cheaper, and I have my upgrade path to the 9000ers in 3 years. So I don't expect a shift within the next 6 months, and first of all, we need the 15th generation from Intel
The bros who are chilling with ryzen 3600/5600 and I5 11th gen/12th gen knowing they would never upgrade it🗿
Me still sitting here with a 12700K spectating: “Interesting”
This is why I'm waiting to get me next pc
I ceased caring about socket upgrade after socket 370 and socket am2/am2+. Reason I was going so long between upgrades
*If you can pick up cheap components of "last gen" then don't worry about it, just think that consoles can't do this at all!*
I’m still out here using a 10th gen 😭
Ahh cant wsit for the new intel socket today with its very own 1000 Watt powersupply
I could see am5 being a 10 year deal kinda like how am4 has been. They might come out with am5+/6 in a few years, but I’m sure they will still release new processors for am5 for a while.
Even if 9000 is the end they will keep dropping chips they are still dropping am4 cpus and am5 is already out
This always happened so of course it will change when am5 is done
I have been hearing this for years
Me with i5 10th gen : ya it's cool
Intel is making step backs right now
How do I convince my parents to cover the cpu, gpu, software cost and labour cost.
I can’t (by law) get a job and don’t want to pay loads for those as those are the most expensive
I’m also building it in a shop to learn how to do this as I learn from experience so that’s where the labour comes from
Upgrade old Hardware never works out.
Ive been an amd fan for a long time. By tge time im planning on upgrading the cpu I'll probably need a new mobo, and will probably be ready for what ever is past the 9000 ryzen series
even if there is nothing coming after 9000 series, and that's a big if, you'd still have enough power to last until the second generation of DDR6 boards.
They still need to figure out how to not be such unstable power hogs before I even think about considering Intel again
Long lives the xeon .
I hope at lest thet the new lga soket to suport 15,16,17 and 18 gen minimum.
Not happening.
Intel coming back with "it's the board not the CPU" Slogan.
Sadly for them, when it happens on just about all brands of boards, there is only 1 common denominator... them.
Me rockin I5 2400 🗿
The benefit of AM5 is not have a cpu that's actively trying to fold itself in half under load. Also deliding not being all but mandatory for reasonable temps at higher tiers.
I'm running a first gen ryzen. I think you'll all be fine...
It could be that maybe this could change sooner or later... What an info...
Of course not, it's done on purpose.
Im just chilling hwre with my lga1151
Just buy an SBC. No socket, no problem!
Already have the money set aside for a 15900k, new motherboard, rtx 5090 and ddr6...if it does come this year x.x I hope it all does.
Not me who Use FM2+/FM2 Socket to Just Play WoT and Roblox without a Graphics Card (Just Using the Processor Built in GPU)
And thats why im just upgrading my am4 cpu and waiting
Me now wondering when ddr6 ram is gonna come out 💀
still a few years
@@MarcsSpark yeah I know but I find it funny that it's still a possibility that AMD and INTEL say that there new CPUs require ddr6 ram
The future cpus won't have a socket at all those will be soldered on the motherboards on laptops already happening 😅
Were laptops not already soldered on?
But yes looking forward to SD X and nvidia bring
15th gen will probably have a socket that is supported for only 2 generations, which is basically no upgrade path at all
They supposed to adopt a new power efficient architecture or something. They said.
And said they will support am5 for 7 or more years
I just built my pc with a 13th gen intel processor. But it’ll probably last me a very long time… hopefully
Even if 9000 is the last generation on AM5 (unlikely) it will still definitely be a better value per dollar than 15th gen
My CPU has been made 6 years ago, and it is still working. I actually want to upgrade it, but it'll require a lot of changes in my PC.
For now I'm considering an option within 2600$ budget. I hope this upgrade will be good for next 6 years.
In case you're wondering I have I7-7700, GTX 1660TI, 16GB DDR4, and Asus B250, Prime motherboard
I feel your pain man, went from a 6700k and a 980ti to a 5800x and a 6700xt, light and day difference lol.