Moskva - The Methodical Cruiser
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2020
- The Moskva is a ship that requires a fair bit of planning ahead, as overextending means it's nigh impossible to disengage. Positioning is highly important as your guns have excellent range and performance, but your poor concealment leaves you a tempting target.
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Flamu you say medium range, what is consider medium 10-15km? 8-12km? Can you clarify. BTW on the topic what is consider close medium and long range in this game in km term. I hear this all the time but does not know?
I have difficulties to win with this ship. If i play like u do, my team doesn't do anything. If i play more agressiv at close range (to use radar at the beginning) i win but not a lot of dmg.
What do u suggest?
Silly question but wouldn't it actually make more sense to wait for the new cruisers to come out when you get to tier 9 since you say they're OP? Or do we get them for free if we already grinded out the tech tree?
@@jetwaters9365 you will still keep Donskoi so you don't need to worry
@@dinjoe828 No no I mean the tier 10 ship. I'm talking about what if we all have to regrind the last 3 tiers just to grind for the new cruisers coming out.
I swear that montana oneshotting the smoking mino, could be a modern art exhibit in some museum, playing as a gif. Hawt
Would only be better if it were a Smolensk.
He was on spotter plane so it was easier to guess where exactly mino was.
Sure mino wasn't in Salems radar range?
well from my experience Mino is pretty easy to citadel
Looks like the player on Monty got acquainted with Flamu's guide on blind firing :)
"The Methodical Cruiser"
"You go to gulag, you go to gulag, you go to gulag and you go to gulag"
Hahahaha, comment of the year bruv
@@Woodsiey : >
Uncle Joe may not have blessed this ship with Stalinium armor, but he knows skill when he sees people in gulag.
I just want to know if they're going to re-class Moskva to submarine now, in light of its new location.
Moskva das Boot haha
Moskva: the thinking mans cruiser!
Indeed
ZOMBIES GRAVEYARD NOW!
You mean the Sinking man's cruiser?
*sinking 😂🤣
Adios Moskva!
Cleary Montana saw your clip how too blindfire in to smoke.
Ryltar it’s not that hard now that you have the minimap aim assist you just gotta get lucky with RNG
Amazing as always. Focusing on ships that are a little older or difficult to play - I love that. These commentaries are what makes you the best.
"Moskvas weaknesses are carriers in general"... Ahhh I remember my first experience with T10 APDBs. Moving toward flank in my Moskva, DBs spotted. Ehh, whatever, some chip damage maybe a fire nbd. Boy was I wrong. 100-0ed through DEFAA with AFT. 65k gone with a Midway autodrop. I was speechless.
Midway has HE DBs. Hak has AP, but even then 3 cits won't do enough damage to kill you outright. It's like 8600 dmg/cit on those, so at best it'd take 3 drops of 3 cits each to kill you from full health.
Sure you didn’t detonate?
@@CeesaX Before rework, Midway had the APDBs, and they could one shot pretty much anything they actually cit.
@@adamgrazier4991 Definitely did not detonate
@@CeesaX czcams.com/video/DYNXp-5VdSo/video.html
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Thanks for the update on the ship :> keep up the good work
Flamu said something good about carriers, i can't belive it!
Blink twice if you're been held hostage by carrier mains!!!!
Relevant ;)
Perfect timing, I was just pondering whether to get the Legendary Upgrade
If you have that mission available, yes, do it. Moskva with the slot 3 aiming and unique upgrade usually lands 6+ out of 9 shells fired at bb's at 19km, if your aim is good, or the bb is stationary/backing up (an easy shot). We laugh at these "dispersion conspiracies". (there is still dispersion, but it's so small compared to any other ship...)
Moskva is just like the Venezia - a ship that’s not for everyone. Both Moskva and Venezia have great guns and decent armour, but their slow reload and huge citidels really put a tough test on the player’s skill. Still, I would argue that Moskva and Venezia are the two most powerful cruisers in the current version of the game, if and only if they are played correctly, and that’s not an easy thing to do.
... smolensk
RoydeanEU sorry I forgot to mention, I was talking about tech tree only.
@@RoydeanEU damage farm doesn't equal good, you should have said stalingrad
Stalingrad is far more powerful than either of them.
Moskva - The Sinking Cruiser? 😂😂😂
Lol
Russian Warship went and fucked itself
Ah yes, Stalingrad's sister, I was waiting for this commentary.
Thank you for this. My captain build is almost matches yours and it results in good games.
Good video...I had this ship unlocked for a couple months and made the decision to grab it while I could; like this morning!
I Love love love my moskva these days. It is like an island of confidence for your team, I notice that it inspires a lot of confidence in your teammates around you when you play it well.
Jean Bart, Georgia, Smolensk, Stalingrad, Conqueror: Press X to doubt
Moskova Moskova.
Excellent commentary so very close to having enough xp for this before time runs out I guess In one more week
Great video. Thank u
Good I am gonna build mine like this for the legendary grind
Thanks
12:41 I keep coming back to this video for this monty shot
Hey flamu, longtime viewer here.
It's been a long time since I've seen anyone do a guide on the yamato, I've seen a lot of commentary on the montana and the kremlin, but since the carrier rework and the introduction of the smolensk I've gone from ~55% win rate in the Yama to around 43%. I can do well in other tier 10s but I feel so lost in the Yamato.
I don't know if you do requests but I'd love to see an update on the yama. Thanks!
It's kinda funny how Flamu encourage you not to tank, while in fact you end up tanking anyway, because your fellow BB comrades tend to love mapborder xD
Here is something that is also so much fun on the Moskva: Battleships pushing in around a corner to get you because you are "just a cruiser" with no torps.
While grinding the legendary I had two Musashis and a Yamato doing that and regretting it in the same 24 hours...
Anyone know when this change will happen? I want to see how much time I have before I lose my chance to get Moskva.
What settings do you use to make the sea look so calm? Or is this a function of replay playback?
It’s a mod pack from Aslain
Bought Yoshino and loved the super cruiser gameplay. Farmed FXP for Alaska and loved her too. Than i went for Moskva and i loved her too. I rly like this hybrid role of a cruiser that can work in some moments as a tank with big dmg potential. I rly enjoy playin these super cruisers
I enjoy one shotting these cruisers with battleships like the Montana or the yamato because they think they have turtleback armour and won't get citadeled.
thank Flamu
in my play through, if you were forced into a nose in with a DM, you can actually try to shoot its turret, with good shell velocity and accuracy, you can quite consistently destroy one of its front turret and mostly they will get scared and back off
Well, we can say. That Daring is pretty daring.
Don't forget, the Moskwa has the same citadel weakness as the Yamato.
Meaning, if you are angled but can still use all your guns, you can be citadelled (although unlikely, besides close quarters, where it's quite common for me to do that in my Hindenburg).
Got her last week and I'm loving her. The only problem is her concealment :P
How u make seawater work that clearly?
Excellent review of the ship! As always :)
greetings from Russia!
The question I have in my mind is... will the legendary module be part of the Moskva when she moves to premium status.
maybe it looses the module and the new T10 gets it? idk...
It keeps the legendary mod.
There was a comment on reddit from 1 of the devs confirming that it will keep the legendary module if you have already acquired it
i just got the moskva but i dont have the legendary mod... i'll never get it then?
@@thomas.02 The mission for it should still be active till end of year
Flamu is in Phuket :) enjoy your holiday!!
This is my favorite ship in the game. Super easy to get at least 100k damage and with a little more skill, have a meaningful impact on the game. It's also easy to snipe DDs at 10-14 km which is always fun. Only tweak is that it should have better concealment than Kremlin
please teach me :/ I just got it I die early in all my games
For us who all ready have it with LG mod and perm camo , how WG will rewards us? Free replacement equal to T10 replacement + perm camo or ? Any ideas Flams?
I got her via Santa crates…was surprised
Never heard of the ship
Granted I put down WoW for a while and came back and OMG secondaries was the rave!!!!
Of course not 5 months later the commanders rework came along
@Flamu
What is the graphics setting that the water in your videos always looks so calm?
The Water in my client is never looking like that
czcams.com/video/XDpt6tW8-dg/video.html
I managed to grind the ship over this weekend from T6, but I can't find anywhere the detail about the Legendary Module you are speaking about.
it's going to be back in research bureau for hefty price...
thx for video, I just grinded Moskva and I struggle.... I mean, when I get in bad position I'm a toast, there's no retreat, no escape due to clumsiness and no conceal.... so yeah, positioning is all that matter here
How long do I have to grind it? When does it become a coal ship?
Hey does anyone know the song that plays in the background at 1:15-1:20
was able to get the Moskva thanks to some good luck with crates and such. And i relay like her from the few games I've played in her (miscounted how much silver i needed so i can play her a lot atm XD).
This ship gone now
The graphics look really differetn from when I'm playing it on my laptop? Are you using some graghical enhancing mod?
He uses a mod for the sea textures iirc
I was asking the same. It looks great
I have a mighty need.
I find that if there's any ship that plays in a similar way to _Moskva,_ it's _Yamato._ Well, and the two similar playing T9 Japanese BBs.
how can i change water like this?
Flamus old Moskwa video before the carrier change: "Moskwa has a huuuuge AA Buble, that devastate every plane within seconds". Now: "Moskwas biggest weakness is its vulnerability to Planes...."
Moskva has always been vulnerable to planes because its so often stationary and is easy to citadel with AP bombers, even the RTS days. This is also why Stalingrad is less powerful in random battles than it is in clan battles because its just as vulnerable to CV.
What is the legendary module for the Moskva?
@Flamu so when my Moskva is becoming premium ship? Update 0.9.4?
Im still looking for this "awesome" AP. Maybe just CC's get this special rare Ammo, my Moskva dont have this. My Moskva is just working with full HE. AP on Flatbroadside is less effective than with HE with different targets.
Hi flamu..always enjoy your video..i have suggestion for you..how if you post a analysis video in youtube about your gameplay that still can consider as a good game but in that game you had a lot of disadvantage..for the example in moskva you miss positioning so you become a target from multiple bb..or you got spam by cruiser..or you in wrong side of map so you have only limited target because nobody spot for you..or maybe a game when you only score 80k-100k damaged because cv targeting you that make you always get spotted by the enemy and what you can do is kiting..in the video you can give advice for us what is the best solution or to do in that situation..
I love my Moskva...I just hope that I can get the legendary module before they remove it....I thought I had until the end of the year but I'll hurry now. Lovely comment, professional as always :)
If you have already started the Legendary module grind before they dropped 0.9.3, you have until the end of the year to complete the mission and get the module.
Good video.
Haha Moskva Das Boot now
Now i see why the hindy is considered a ap demon. My hindy woulda done consistant 8k volleys to that broadside rich. While flamu did like 2, 3, 4k.
Got methodically sunk 🤧
I'll have a Moskva with a twist of lime and 3 cubes of ice please. Cheers!!
Been out of the WOWS loop well over 18 months now. When this becomes "special ship" will it have as good economy bonuses as other premiums? I love this ship and would enjoy coming back to her.
No like he said in this video, there is not really a T10 premium economy bonus, you will get the camo and that all. However when she became "premium" you will be able to cycle Kusnetsov on her.
Special ships don't tend to have any economy bonuses, but they usually come with permanent camo that might give various bonuses. In this case I expect that players who'll buy Moskva from the Armory will get permanent camo on it. And I predict that players who already have Moskva in their port will either get permanent camo for free or through some mission/event.
(These are my predictions according to how similar situations have been handled in the past, WG has not yet conformed this info yet)
Cheers. I already have the camo. Will that likely result in a dubloon refund?
@@j.mckerch4320 To early to said what will happen, but if you already have the standart camo no the space one, most likely you will get the new silver TX camo for free.
Hi, @Flamu! Nice review! I own her, she's very funny and is my first choice when playing CB.
I'm a BB and heavy cruiser player, so could you tell me which ship would you recommend to get first (not considering ship type) Stalingrad or Bourgogne?
Thanks in advance and keep the good job!
Best regards! 👍🏼
Since you have played the moskva a while now, I think you will love the Stalingrad much better as the play style is almost same. Not that Bourgogne is a bad ship but I’m pretty sure you will like Stalingrad better. Stalingrad is a blessed ship man.
@@nishanths538 Thanks a lot for your advice. Then I'll pick her ASAP.
Best regards!
Same here man, I main her in CBs, she is more versatile and tankier than Stalingrad but does not have the BB level AP penetration, DDs fear the Moskva more, but they play almost identically.
Leo Ojeda have fun man, the Russian bias will always be with you.
@@dinjoe828 Hey, great piece of advice! I was in doubt as I want a hard-hitting ship. I see Stalingrad like a "light BB" and Bourgogne as a "heavy super-cruiser". Regarding ships, I like some agility and reasonable rate of fire with "tankiness" 😄
Best regards!
Nice
Is it worth getting Flint for steel when you already have Stalingrad?
The flint will likely be added again as a coal ship. So no
What mod does he use to make the ocean glossy smooth?
Aslain's has one
if she will become special ship for maybe coal or free exp, they should buff her slightly, right now the strength between her and stalingrad just quite far enough, moskva need more balans
How does your water look like that?
I like how according to the game the velocity of guns ranges somewhere between 700 and 1000 m/sec. But if we look at the numbers at 16:50 we see 7.69 sec for 15.94 km. On my book thats an average(!) shell speed of 1,886 m/sec. That's no more high velocity but hypervelocity.
The game is speed up like 2.5 / 2.8 times or smth compared to real life values.
This includes as far I know:
Ship speed
Shell and Torpedoes
Planes and ther cargo ( bombs and torps)
And ofc ship handling is vastly improved so is acceleration and deceleration.
While reload and turret traverse time are pretty much real life values +/- some degree of gameplay enjoyment enchantments.
Cheers Thel
The cruiser that everyone is grinding for, since it will become a premium ship when the russian cruiser line will split... :D
i mena its viable to brawl in clan wars in moskva but some randos it does work but ya usally not so well
Who is this professional CZcamsr?
*_Moskva - The Coral Reef_*
Will it be available through coal once it gets removed?
Mfw I am 200k away from it.......
Why the water is like that??
I wish they would buff DFAA and AA related modules...it's really annoying that unless I am in a AA platoon enemy squadrons just don't care.
At least in the old CV gameplay DFAA would lower their accuracy, which could directly contribute to you mitigating damage even if they got through.
WG releases "News" article right AFTER servers go down for NA that reads:
"The game servers will be unavailable due to technical maintenance.
Maintenance Start: 11:00 Central/5:00 Eastern/10:00 UTC
Expected Maintenance End: 14:00 Central/8:00 Eastern/13:00 UTC"
PMW sends ticket to WG advising on their timing or use of tense in the English language.
Flamu releases WOWs video.....good timing.
WG releases UPDATED "News" article......
"Dear players,
The game servers will be unavailable due to technical maintenance.
Maintenance is being prolonged until 15:00 Central/9:00 Eastern/14:00 UTC. We're sorry for the inconvenience."
I love my Moskva
Since its going to a premium will they give you the premium camo?
Yes I think so.
Flamu, where can I get my hands on that calm water mod?
Installing Aslain's Mod Pack for WoWs czcams.com/video/XDpt6tW8-dg/video.html
Moskva - The Strategical Cruiser ;)
What mod are you using for such smooth water ?
I was searching it myself
My Moskva is my favourite ship in my lineup
Do you know exactly when the Moskva will be move as a premium ship?
Most likely when they decide to implement the new Russian line so in short we don't know
if we consider the previous patches where ships got introduced it should be in about 3 patches. But it ofc depends if wg needs more time to balance those russian cruisers *loughs in russian bias*
i heard it will be on update 9.3
@@hopsili I doubt the new ship will be balans as the other ship XD, smolensk is just an example of how bad it is to implement another paper ship that *cough never leave *cough blueprint design *cough.. anyway thanks for the info, appreciated that!
Are they going to remove the ship straight away at 0.9.4?
Also, Do i need to buy the ship? or just have it researched is good enough for them to give me the prem moskva
I would wager on you needing it in your port. In other words you’ll probably need to have bought it.
@@wtpiv6041 but they will have to compensate for those players who grinded the line but doesnt own the ship too
Doctor, how much time left for Soviet crusier?
The swedish destroyer events should last about 2 months so at least that long
What is DPM?
So after two years after this video is has sunk??
Hoe to kite Venezia with a Moskva?
Can’t count how many times I catch a Moskva moving into her positions. 2,3 citadels but she just shrugged it off. Bc reasons… this thing got 70k hp.
I hate that most about the Moskva. I lose so much hp just moving into position at the start of battle. I really have to start taking the long route places -- makes me feel like I'm in a BB a lot of the time.
i dig my moskva. with space camo. xoxo
Surveilance radar mod 1? is this part of legendary module?
You can buy it in the armory. 17k coal
@@GandalfTehGray thks buddy
Yashima review when?
moskva with legendary mod is the best accuracy in the game period. Its actually god tiered
I think zao with legendary has better acc.
@@VidZarg debatable, but numbers are in favor of moskva, plus range, plus velocity. Both are good, one for he monster other ap monster
Zao has DD dispersion you can't argue with that, with leg mod it's nuts.
Is the whole line being removed or chapaev and donskoi stays?
Chapa and Dosko stay but lead to Nevski
Existing line will stay, but it'a top - aka T10 - aka Moskva will reposition to Armory as premium and new ship (a buffed up Donskoi) will take up Moskva's previous place. Also, alternative cruiser line will be added of soviet heavy cruisers.
@UserNr333 you'll still own her till it's in your port, and it'll become the premium. Buy Kirov too
UserNr333 you’ll still have it...even WG AREN’t thar greedy...yet
What water settings are this
That's what i've been wondering!
Yup what mode is that?!?!? so smooth.....
Flamuu is using a mod called "Minimal Waves (calm seas)" that's part of Aslain's modpack. Get it here: aslain.com/index.php?/topic/2020-0900-aslains-wows-modpack-installer-wpicture-preview/
Its in the Aslains modpack and its called "Calm Seas" or "Calm Waves" where it makes the water look hella smooth. Its really easy on the eyes if not a bit unnatural at the same time.
Thank you guys
when will it be removed?