Real Time with Bill Maher: Overtime - August 14, 2015 (HBO)
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Bill Maher and his guests - Sister Helen Prejean, former Gov. Jennifer Granholm, Lawrence Wilkerson, Doug Heye and Talib Kweli - answer viewer questions after the show.
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I'm tired of hearing Bernie isn't a serious candidate. He's *NOT* extreme. He only *seems* extreme to the people in this country that don't know what *CAN* be achieved by intelligent people within a *REAL* democracy: Denmark, Germany, Finland, Sweden, etc.. I do understand that we may have a problem with *INTELLIGENCE* in this country. Does that mean the people here, no matter how ignorant, can't be shown the difference between the U.S. and those democracies that have working governments?
Can someone in the media compare our middle and working classes to the middle and working classes in the above countries??? Don't just talk about Greece, to try to scare us ... show us what success looks like! Show us what it means to be *POOR* in the U.S and poor there. Show us what works, and see how we can get there. Maybe *gasp* do better?
Beorn Borg Tonight, Bill minimized Bernie, just like all the media has been doing, but so what? Bernie's integrity is kicking ass!
Those countries have not a working goverment all of them have mass illigal immigration problems and some of them have economical problems.
I live in the Netherlands we are actually worse off than you guys I would love to live in a right wing country like the USA and Canada. No government bureaucracy no people who take advantage of the social system, no illigal immigrants, no green nutjobs, no self righteous socialist who live in there millionaire's villas and don't give a fuck about the people who don't vote for them.
Felix banaan All of the countries mentioned have governments working perfectly, no idea what you're on about. I'm Danish, so by osmosis I learn all this stuff. Immigration is no more a problem in Denmark than it is in USA, but sadly we have crazy hillbillies, akin to the Tea Party, sitting on 20% of the mandates in our Congress.
Beorn Borg As a Dane: As to intelligence: That can be worked around easily, just find a group or an issue and villify it. Dansk Folkeparti (Danish People's Party. Doesn't that just ring wonderfully of German parties of old) sits on 20% of the mandates in our Congress, and their agenda has since day 1 been a thinly veiled racist one. They've gotten there by appealing to the inner svinehund (pigdog, as in appealing to the side of you that wants to say and talk shit, but never does). Homebrewed theory this one, but I think that as the disdain of politicians rises, people throw their hands up and go: "f*ck it!" and protestvote, and in Denmark that has always (until very recently) been the Danish People's Party.
"Overtime" is often better than the regular segment. Very good, this one!!
Usually the case, because it is real discussion not staged discussion.
"Bill Maher vs Sister Helen Prejean" I'd pay to see that act.
SatanistSin Who knew she was so funny?
SatanistSin I'd buy that for a dollar!
SatanistSin She'd tear him a new one....
she reminds me of my older sister mary, even looks a bit like her, 'she's a catholic nut and i'm a devout atheist, but we still love each other'.. by the way , 'god isn't everywhere' h'es not in tommys basement, why not?,, because tommy dosen't have a basement''..
***** she has a name, believe it or not and was once Governor of Michigan
Bring back Sister Helen. She's hilarious.
Holy damn I mist have missed this episode and now I want her to be on every single one. She is awesome!
The music argument isn't the consumers responsibility, it's just like Uber, no one takes cabs, is it my fault an Uber is cheaper and more convenient? Should we destroy progress to protect a status quo?
Aren't Hillary's proposals just copies of Bernie's, which he has been talking about for the last 30 years or more?
Jewell Starsinger Pretty much. And they still aren't as good.
Jewell Starsinger Bernie promises free college, not just more loans & grants. I believe daycare on the tax dollar as well. I do not have kids, but I support this for the betterment of everyone. Where does Hillary plan to get the money to cover this? More loans from the banks? Bernie says he wishes to tax the rich in order to restore the middle class and pay for these free colleges. Not just proposals, but a sound solution!
Jewell Starsinger "Copies"? That's a nice way of putting it! Lol. I see it as more of a rip-off.
Jewell Starsinger Yes sounds like she listened to Bernie's speeches and then put it all her her own.
Good strategy, wait for your oppenents to announce their priorities and then steal the issue. I have to worry that she even cares about any of these issues. None of it's personal to her, just a means to please her base.
Sister Helen is so quick witted and funny, get her on the show more often!
Bernie Sanders 2016.
I was about to fucking throw my computer screen when Bill Maher teased that he would give Hillary a million dollars. Please give to Bernie instead.
SAY NO TO DYNASTIC POLITICS!
Azitock I know. I expected him to say he would give Bernie Sanders money. Disappointed in you Bill Maher.
Azitock Because Maher is NOT A LIBERAL. When will you dunderpates get ti?
Kevin Russell Nobody thinks Maher is a liberal. He's a progressive.
14Schofield except when it comes to the zionists
Kevin Russell Right, because everybody who is a progressive agrees with every progressive stance ever.
Loved it when he says it was his responsibility to adapt to the new business model. A pragmatic guy, Talib Kweli
I love how they are all so respectful to sister mary. :)
Alabama strategy:
1. Require DMV issued photo ID to vote
2. Close DMV offices in black neighborhoods
3. Profit
I love that the presence of the nun kept the swearing to a minimum. I don't mind hearing it, but it was just funny that they kept saying "sorry Sister", whenever they did say something off color. :-)
The best OT I've ever watched. Great panel!
The way the lady in the blue kept roasting bill haha
Sister Helen and Bill are HILARIOUS together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Odd couple. She's lovable, they jab, they're respectful. They need more appearances together!!! I love it. It helps that she's a progressive and they have a shared history of Catholicism, where Bill clearly parted ways. Makes for funny material.
This was one of the best episodes of RealTime/Overtime I've watched this year. I loved the nun, Kweli, Granhorn(sp?) and Wilkerson. It highlighted the twisted we've allowed. I find this show to be a RealTime service for perspective....
I knew nothing about Talib Kweli prior to this, but I now have a lot of respect for him after this short clip.
papersplease I didn't like him justifying the people interrupting Sanders.
Ricardo Morgado I didnt catch that bit. I was referring more to his attitude toward consumers. I agree with you that it is unfortunate that he justifies those protesters interrupting Sanders.
papersplease I didn't agree with Talib at first, but I later got what he was saying. He also stated in the show, that HE didn't agree with the interruption of Bernie Sanders until after he spoke with the protesters and heard their point of view.
The thing is...the racial issues in America are always JUST a conversation. Nothing ever changes. It takes civil disobedience to affect change. It took rioting and protests all over the country, to get states to begin to revising their police training, mandating body cameras for police, looking into the criminal justice system, etc. These disruptions are efficacious. More so than being RESPECTFUL.
I think the BlackLivesMatters movement may be working BECAUSE it is disruptive, disrespectful, and in your face. Too often the racial issues get brushed off to the side without any systemic changes. So at the end of the day, even though I think Bernie Sanders is the man, I don't blame them for interrupting him. It served its purpose, it kept the conversation going in America, it kept the racial issue relevant. Maybe changes will come about over time so we can finally live in a post-racial America.
Can we please stop pretending that musicians selling alubms is the way things are "supposed" to be? Historically speaking, albums are a relatively new piece of technology, and there's no reason to expect it to be a stable model.
It's the way it's supposed to because albums are art that was labored over creatively and financially to be put out there. the music industry is failing because of self entitled assholes who think they can have music all to themselves. you MUST give back to the people who MADE the art.
Guercinator Albums aren't the only way to do this, though. You could have a system where people pay to receive individual songs as soon as they are created. I support a bunch of people on Patreon, for example. I actually end up spending more money, but I don't care, because it goes directly to the artist.
***** Except no one actually listens to albums; they put their songs on shuffle or make themed playlists.
deadeaded That's a good point. Just 150 years ago a lot of art was sponsored by patrons. Eventually the masses had the funds to pay for it and now the masses have the means to get it without paying for it.
Many years ago, people online SWORE that if musicians sold their music online, they would buy it up, they'd spend MORE than the base price, and the musicians would make so much more money without the greedy record label keeping most of it.
Well, years later, piracy is in full bloom, and music, art, movies, video games, and software are pirated in MASS numbers. Countless artists and companies have failed because of all the theft.
Go to Humble Bundle, a site that sells games where people can choose what they want to pay. Know what they pay? The minimum. And what is that minimum? A few dollars, or even one.
It takes a LOT of time and effort to create something of any kind of quality, and it can be devastating to watch it get stolen without even making enough to cover your expenses, let alone a profit.
I don't know why Jennifer Granholm is such a Clinton supporter, she's always been far more progressive.
Brendan Beckett Yes when she cheered for Hillary I went WHAT?!
Bobs Black Sad but true.
She's being pragmatic
Brendan Beckett she's a sell out, is that really surprising. They all are.
Bobs Black I often think that Hillary does have a penis and that's why Bill goes off the rails.
Another theist that doesn't actually know what the atheist position is...
Matthew Singh-Dosanjh To be fair, it is true that atheists 'reject' the proposition that there is a God. So she is right in that respect. It doesn't necessarily say anything about a specific religion though.
+Kleavers well most atheists were once theists
BlurredLinez
Ibid? Source? Citation?
I'm an antitheist, and have never been a believer on any level. Being raised in a secular and/or atheist environment is more common than I think you realise.
Kleavers (a) means lack of
BlurredLinez No. Everyone is born atheistic.
Loved the panel this time. One of the better shows I've seen in a while, I think.
That nun KICKS ASS!
This was a great panel, Colonel Wilkerson and Sister Prejean
This was one of the best overimes ever, I really enjoyed it. :)
Sander/Warren 2016
Brilliant show this week!
Excellent episode this week!
Sister Helen was fantastic on the show.
That unperceived "Oh oh" at 9:30 by Bill.
Keep preaching (no pun intended) the truth Bill!
what a great panel.
Excellent panel.
Awesome show!
One of the issue's regarding the war on drugs and prison is what I call the " Gladiator Effect". No one seems to realize that in many cases normally non violent criminals get sent to institutions under the pretext of " Rehabilitation". When in fact what happens is the transformation of men and women mental states to post traumatic stress syndrome. Being taken from an environment of much relatively low violence and oppression to extreme violence and oppression. One of the largest recruiting centers for violent gangs are the prisons. I have seen this among friends and family. Perpetuating the " Gladiator Effect " . Think about it
Great debate. And I love when Bill Maher have people of faith on, they really CAN talk straight to the issue without any fear of political BS.
I would appreciate a little more commentary on Bernie Sanders
The nun is fucking adorable!!!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏😂😂😂😂😂😍😍😍😍😍
if prison is such a terrible thing then why do people keep doing the things that put them back in there?
See people, the atheist and the Catholic devout have a great time conversing! Why can't we have an open-minded society instead of bickering PC nonsense? Love that sister!
The sister stuck between the 2 stoners. Roflmao
And she says to Bill yeah yeah yeah
LOL
Great Overtime conversation almost as good as # 293, that episode was more comical. However, this Overtime episode was just under #293 comically but more substantive. Bill should have more nuns on the panel Sister Simone and Sister Helen he's two for two batting at 100%. Look forward to all future Real Times
Sister Helen is oh so gansta..
Talib - Is absolutely right. The new music business models are a fact - not something to be judged goo or bad. It is all about strategy. Engaging your audience is #1 today. . He's a smart businessman.
Sister Helen Prejean... Such a Cool Gal
Sister Helen is so so gangsta
Bill, I agree with you about 90% of the time... But allow me to say that you provide an incredible service to all -inside and outside the US- you are sometimes very funny but most importantly, you are almost always very relevant
Bill compared Civil Rights to Pirating music...lol
no, he was comparing a social system to the music system....
I would love to see Sister Helen, Cornel West and Bill Maher together on stage
If you ain't cheating you ain't trying
looooove sis Prejean
Tell me about Bernie.
Socialist. Rest assured that's keeping away any possibility for him to win a general.
JW W
Has he said he's a socialist?
Or is it like Obama where everybody else says he's a socialist when he clearly isn't.
Dan Slash Bernie openly admits to being a socialist, constantly. This you can google.
***** He says democratic socialist to be specific. But Bernie does embrace the idea of socialism. Do you really need to be given resources demonstrating this? It is common knowledge. Nobody in politics disputes this.
Dan Slash Why does he wear the mask?
It's kinda getting tiring that every (american) black guest has to talk about race... I'm hoping Bill brings on more people like Ayaan Hirsi who actually had some other issue to discuss.
I get that USA is divided into black and white but I'm so tired of listening to race issues.
***** I see your point but it is such a terrible problem here that it must be discussed and sorted out other wise it will never improve...
jeremyshambles
Well, a start would be to stop referring to people as black and white. That just makes the grouping of people by race more real.
Second, if you're a musician, wouldn't you like to discuss music? Just leave race out of it.
If you're an activist on racial issues, then talk about race but I think it's sad that every black person, regardless of their expertise, is reduced to the race question.
***** oh I agree about the white/black categorizing of individuals. the problem is that because of the hundreds of years of damage caused by the abject oppression and subjugation of individuals based on skin tone (black/white) a means of recognizing that these individuals do not have the same opportunities as those who were not subjected to such indescribable inhumanity is necessary. we have a very very long way to go but it must be addressed and the more people who are educated as to why such a vast disparity exists the greater likelihood of progress is possible..
That is Rand Paul and Cory Booker putting up legislation to end the war on drugs and drug offenders. I stand with Rand!
On the subject of the absurdity of the drug war and locking people up for drugs, they forgot to mention the fact that you can still get drugs in prison...
Sister Prejean is a scream! Who needs Maher? ;)
Hillary Clinton sure seems to be doing a lot of "evolving" lately! Hmm.. I wonder where she got the idea for reforming student loan debt..? And where did she get the idea to make college education affordable to those who can't afford it..? Lol.
#Sanders2016
sevven1 yeah but let's face it that's the best we can hope for from any politican, even if they don't believe it themselves or go off the poles, at least their in the right direction, rather than behind it like republicans often do.
Bernie is great but one reason he has been able to stay on the same issues for his career is because they've never been a reality, he has never had to deal with the reality of trying to pass the bills, find out how t actually support theses ideas etc. as a fringe figure he has been able to raise the awareness on many important issues and has helped to foster support for them in both democrat and republican camps, however, whether or not the policies can become reality is questionable--my only criticism of the Bernie saunders campaign.
Mckenzie .Latham Well, if he's elected President, Congress will be forced to take him seriously because he'll no longer be a "fringe figure" and he'll have an enormous amount of 'political clout.'
+sevven1 Or they will ignore him like they did Carter and the dems controlled congress in those years.
MegaMoose1989 I have a feeling that a President Sanders would be a lot more forceful than President Carter was. And I think he wouldn't hesitate to take his fights with Congress to the people.
Mckenzie .Latham As chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs, and in the midst of the worst obstructionism we've ever seen, Sanders coauthored legislation reforming the VA health care system with John McCain and it passed in 2014. I think that that says something about whether or not he can get important legislation enacted..
sevven1 "Committee on Veterans’ Affairs"
that's says it all though right, how could republicans say they support the troops when they veto this bill/work against it, many of them would have opposed it, but a good percentage of them would not due to the bad press it would generate.
Why shouldn't you need to use an ID? You need an ID for literally everything. There should be no reason someone doesn't have one.
I don't know a lot about Talib Kweli but I was impressed. A sharp mind.
And even though I'm an atheist I LOVE that he said "Pardon" to the Sister after he said 'fuck." I'm a big fan of respect.
Jennifer is a serious babe... My VP pick for whoever's running.
Sister Prejean sounds like she could be Dr. John's Sister.
I love Sister Helen Prejean.
That holy sister was cool!
The nun was fantastic!
You gotta have a photo ID in Ohio... Is that not a requirement??
LOL coolest. nun. ever.
As the "RT" panel was discussing the ever-expanded 'for-profit prison system', Doug Heye said "It's in the states..." - he was telling far more truth than he ever meant to.
Just look up 'states expand for-profit prison system'...and 'follow the money'.
Shameful...
“Trump is hillary’s secret weapon”
“They won’t find anything in the emails”
Watching news in hindsight makes me feel so smart.
How was Jim Crow Laws profitable for America?
I'd love a Sanders/Granholm ticket.
to-be-left-on-earth Great idea!!!
***** I know but I can dream! :D
to-be-left-on-earth Sanders/Warren :)
to-be-left-on-earth She's natural-born Canadian.
***** oh okay, understood.
Kweli's closing words about the prison industrial complex - and its making so many of the poor into tacit slaves - goes a ways in repairing the disgrace he made of himself during the show, defending those racist harpies who attacked Bernie Sanders and his supporters. All respect to those intending positive change, we need to unite as much as possible, not endorse those who stir up more hate and confusion in the world.
10:57
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The digital sword cuts both ways. Yes, music is free and that's a good thing for musicians. If you are great you will become a valuable live attraction. The Internet is the new radio airplay for which artists used to pay. Getting paid for it isn't going to make you a living. Treat streaming as airplay and be grateful that somebody listened.
Bill Mahr should watch his words: venal and venial are not the same word. A mortal sin would be venal.
BuddyNovinski Hi is in Venial
In my opinion, When doing one of the most important things that you can do which is voting. Having to prove that you are a legal US citizen should be mandatory! If you don't believe this? Than you are the problem.
Personally I prefer buying music on physical media, where the stuff I own physically exists in my home, eventually we'll have no choice but to use the streaming model where you pay money for something on a server somewhere that you can lose at any moment for any number of reasons.
The fear, my take is that it is cowardice, of letting people out of prison without changing drug laws, legalization is the only answer, allows the police, courts, and the rest of the system to keep arresting without jailing merely breaking drug offenders financially still has a draconian effect of society and turns just into another shameful act of financial opportunity for continuing corruption, malfeasance, and misguided ideology...
It would be so funny if they broke out the weed and started smoking!
Granholm looks tipsy.
I thought the guy on the left worked with Colin Powell...why is he actually smart?
Did the sister get a contact high from Bill - i think so...lol
Maybe if they just didn't commit crimes?
whaaaaaat?
Jennifer Granholm is gorgeous, funny, and really really smart
who is this woman, a Helen Prejean. i love her! i have to research her now.
Talib Kweli seems like a smart guy. Why are rappers so smart?
Dead Man Walking?
TheHehe1223 Donald Trump's hair.
Bernie Sanders is the talk of the (young voters Ville) town. I hope that we all get up and really listen to what this man has say. ANd also stop listening to people( H.Clinton) that only say the things they know you want hear. Its not fair that they are able to manipulate those(99%) who are in desperate need of change and not only are we searching for the right leader. We not only need that strong,honest,fearlessly leader to lead us but Also to SHOW THE STRENGTH!! of the millennium voters. Then and only then will this great country (that is made by the people for the people) will be able to push the b.s out of governments. good bless America.... and all of my Hispanics
Am I the only one who thinks Jenifer look like Taylor Swift?
9:02 The death penalty is obscene?
That's a pretty funny nun!
10:49 I like Wilkerson but that’s wrong
in India, a country where most people earn less than $2 per Day, they have to show ID to vote, and they have among the highest voter participation rates in The World. Im a black American......i have no problem showing my damn id to vote
BRENT vote Bernie ,,,,at lest you well know you did the right thing
I guess they removed the comment I posted last night so I will repost.
This episode was really disappointing. Both Bill and Talib went down a significant amount of notches in my book. For 1.) Bill endorsing Hilary over Bernie is highly upsetting, when Bernie has been fighting for the same issues Bill has bitched about in most of his shows (Race Inequality, Wealth Inequality, Education in America, Money in Politics, Women's Rights, Climate Change) Talk about voting against your own interests. Hilary won't do anything for those issues because she's bought by the same people who cause those problems. And 2.) Talib is just as ignorant as those women who interrupted Bernie's speech. What would lead him to believe Bernie Sanders is racist in any way? He's been fighting for racial equality his entire fucking career, and talks about it every speech he gives. Nothing those women would've said could've made any more of an impact than what Bernie would've said or has already said. In fact, it would be less of an impact, and those women only succeeded in hurting the BLM movement by showing such disrespect to someone who legitimately stands with them - most likely because they just saw a white man speaking and decided to intervene without knowing the reality of the situation. I thought Talib was a smart man, but it seems his ideology is just as tribal as the police he complains about, and refuses to call out the ones who do wrong strictly because they're his people. So fucking sad this was, and a real insight into the people I thought actually gave a shit in this country.
If there is one thing that absolutely must be fixed urgently is the US legal system. Vast number of people with very minor misdemeanors are being thrown into jail run for profit by prison industry.
Highest percentage of population in prison in USA compared to anywhere else in the world except may be North Korea.
Less than 35 g of marijuana Misdemeanor 1 year$ 1,000, ; a sale of less than 5 g of marijuana up to 7 years and is a felony
@RealTimers$5000 fine! How does sen. Claire McCaskill feel about that?
The nun said nothing about the Planned Parenthood - ?????
Hey Bill - how much is K-Y paying you to grease up and become Ben Dover?
With regards to the first question, prisoners are also disenfranchised. That includes many minorities who are wrongly convicted just because of their race.
From 10:00 prison talk is incredible Bill. Have to agree with you wholeheartedly. Solitary confinement is cruel and unusual and beatings, rapings, personal injustices,including torture, should be outlawed. The separation and confinement, the restriction of movement under your own free will. That is the punishment. There is no need to heap other psychological punishments on top of everything. I also think a reform of catagorization of crimes. Murder for pleasure, murder for hate, murder for financial gain. Those are all murders, but some are more heinous than others. Those in which mentally ill people have perpetrated the crime should be handled differently than cold-blooded serial killers.