HP Spectre Folio Review: A Near-Perfect PC Covered in Real Leather
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- čas přidán 22. 12. 2018
- Move fluently between laptop, forward, and tablet positions. This unique and durable convertible PC, made with leather, adjusts easily and is specially designed for users on-the-go. See at HP: thrifter.com/sze3
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I've been using this laptop for 4 years now and it's been a fantastic work partner. Sure, it's not as speedy as my newest laptop, but I've toted it through airports, to coffee shops, and to work hundreds of times (about half of which were just the laptop, no sleeve or case) and the leather still looks new. I dare say this is the one portable device I own that I'll never sell or give away, even when the inevitable happens and it no longer works. Bravo, HP, for creating my favorite portable device of all time. Cheers, all!
mình cũng mới mua một chiếc xách tay từ mỹ. 5 năm rồi nhưng trông nó như mới vậy. rất đẹp , rất độc đáo và nó cũng sẽ là chiếc laptop để mình đưa đi quán cà phê, đi du lịch và sẽ không bao giờ bán hay cho nó
Same
I am loving this new hinge revolution surface has kicked off. This hinge is so creative and cool!!
@@zakkyh7443 Man the drivers on that thing sucked. Lots of problems. I returned mine after a month.
@@mattgreenberg3207 Really? I had miny for half a decade and loved it.
Yea they did and mine broke
but that's why I wanna buy this, if it breaks I get my money back
@@zakkyh7443
The 15,6" Acer Aspire R7 had a special hingle quite like this back in 2014 with the touchpad/keyboard position swapped like in this HP... :)
Dan I totally agree with you. When you make a laptop that is meant to be ultraportable and elite in nature, you HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD TRACKPAD. It’s one of two of the things that you interact with the laptop every time you use it and not having precision is definitely a deal breaker no question.
This laptop utilizes old Sony Vaio Multi-Flip's design (from couple years back).
i could see someone not understanding the design and ripping the leather off :D
Stupidity is expensive.
Awesome review! You are by far one of my favorite channels!
I love when Dan rants about HP's lack of Precision drivers...so much passion! :-)
I agree with your assessment. I have the x360 (very similar) and my biggest gripe is the track pad
Insane design!
This design for the tablet was 1st use by Sony vaio.. Really genius way of laptop and tablet.. Hp did improve the design tho.. Kudos to them
My Lenovo thinkpad uses synaptics drivers, and I love it. It is the best trackpad I have ever used.
Absolutely love it. Perfect product.
13:03 Did anyone else _love_ _it_ when Dan dropped the F bomb? "JUST FIX THE FUCKING DRIVES!" Fuck yeah!!!
I'm not sure if you've done this already but could you do a side by side comparison between the two types of drivers you mention. I'd like to see what the differences/issue are.
the small touchpad area + 16:9 display ratio is killing it, apart from the touchpad issues which can be remedied by forcing precision drivers onto that thing.
Where's the wallpaper from? Quite like it
This was my first computer, and it runs cute !
Issa about time!
Thanks for the lovely review. It is a really impressive device. Peradventure, does the LTE in your unit have the issue of continually being disengaged every time there is a cumulative Windows update? If not, what is the likely cause of this?
Is the Surface Pen better than the stock HP pen coming with this device, and how better?
If the speakers are just in keyboard body or has too in main screen?
How will come out sound?
Nice review. I wish there would be a 11 inches model
I love this 2-in-1 design better than the flip around so much more
Super engineering I must say. Only other device like this that appeals to me so far - other than the Surface of course.
Its a trash. Overheating issues
been waiting for you to review this one, thank you! Love this device and the implementation of the design.
Love 2-in-1s but this has the same issue especially on this one. No access due to the leather. Something like the hard drive fails and you're screwed
Daniel. I couldn't agree more with you. I own this device for about a month and I absolutely love it. I was looking for the perfect two in one for years, and this is finally it. I owned a Yoga, a Surface Pro 3 and a Surface book, all of them had significant drawbacks, as a laptop or as a tablet. This is finally a device which is great in both configurations. I don't mind the track-pad either. My one criticism is the position of the power button, which is not accessible when in tablet mode. How did HP miss that? Thanks for sharing your review. I am always a big fan of yours.
Thanks, and glad to hear you're liking it! Yeah, power button is odd. My guess is the leather on the sides would make it hard to access even when in tablet mode.
Looks cool!
man that end worth the money xD
Hi Daniel, first time watching your stuff. I'm subscribed. Your review is AWESOME!!! Just perfect. Actually someone mentioned your channel on some other review I was watching. I don't know if you can get better...but you're good. I will buy the laptop, and from your other subscribers, I see it is somehow possible to install precision drivers from Lenovo. Will do that. Cheers. You can try it and see if it changes anything. Have a good day Man!
QUASI UPDATE: A quick Google search brought up this video from Mark Gunn, from Windows Central already testing precision drivers solution (swapping out the Synaptics driver). czcams.com/video/5MRpAsAhsvY/video.html. The drivers are from reddit: www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/6qz30h/enable_precision_touchpad_on_hp_spectre_x360_2017/
Absolutely gorgeous!
i have an x2 and i just want the screen to stop glitching and not get so hot during even web or youtube use.
Nice review. What background is that?
Is there an external camera on this to be able to use in tablet mode and take pictures of rooms or landscape for work?
It's like Vaio Z Flip... which I own and am typing on right now, but no leather.
so cool
Can't it be fixed with the Lenovo's windows precision drivers ?
Do they sell this similar cover for surface pro????
Watching this on my HP Envy 13.3 (Non transformable) I want to upgrade!
At first glance it does not look too impressive but when it starts transforming its actually quite an innovative piece.
How do you wake this in tablet mode without lifting the screen?
It is possible that they have fixed the Freaking drivers!?!? I have the HP Spectre X360 13t. And the two finger zoom when I am scrolling happens all the time, very annoying. But today, Windows update pushed a Synaptics driver. I have tried over and over to do what just happened most of the time. It's work right now! Scroll when I want to scroll and zoom when I want zoom.
I think the Surface Pro 6 is still better value. Especially as its on sale now. A Surface Pro 6 (i5, 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM) + Type Cover bundle will cost about $999. Adding the pen will bring it up to $1099. And seeing the i5 in it is the quad core U-series one, it'll offer better performance. Oh and also it has a micro SD slot as well. Yes it doesn't have Type-C, but I don't think many people care too much about it.
i think this laptop is priced for the design more than anything else and in some ways its fine
Surface pro 6 has no Lappability at all. That’s a big negative for a lot of people. Also the mediocre battery life is also a big turnoff for many people. As for performance, the quad core u series are still a significant step below the 45 watt parts especially inside there surface pro 6 which throttles them thermally with airless cooling. And more cores are only useful for certain workflows. For word processing and browsing the web, you only need fast single-threaded performance. The new y parts hit 3.9 ghz which is higher than the turbo of an 8250u part.
As always, there are trade offs to be made and each person can decide what device suits them best. The Spectre folio is more of a MacBook Air competitor than a surface pro competitor in that regard. It’s aimed for office professionals and students who need a device with long battery life and snappy performance in office tasks.
@@Anyguy4321 most people that I know and based on what I've seen almost never put their laptops on their lap. Nowadays most people just use a phone or a tablet instead. Most laptops are relegated to desks. But it's just my opinion. And as you said people will make the decision about which is better for them.
I gave up a SP6 for this device for one reason, it's a better laptop, meaning for use in my lap. I've used surfaces for years, but they still suck in my lap. I agree with the reviewer: this is the best convertible design so far.
Better performance? 😂😂😂
it does not have to be also leather
i want every convertible laptop in the future to follow how this thing folds
i can see people do tent mode more often with this design
and even folding it to tablet mode looks more professional instead of doing weird arm gymnastics
Agreed, and having the trackpad while folding is awesome, I even find that position more useful than the classic one with keyboard. (To read, watch videos or whatever)
Seriously that fold blew my mind. It was beautiful to see.
I have never seen this dude dislike a laptop.
Can you play old games(something like fallout new vegas) on that?
It seems another near miss is an SD card slot. How hard would it be to put a micro SD slot next to the SIM card? With no ability to add storage internally, having the option to add some removable storage would make the difference for me.
I have this laptop with the LTE option on Verizon I’m not sure why you say that it’s not working on the Verizon network.
still not sure about leather thing and water could be more dangerous for the laptop since its from leather isnt ?
not sure tough
Great review...
Just curious how it will pass the test of real use and time. By curious I mean: I really am tempted to try it out :-D
How about a review about that new gem-cut spectre x360 both the 13 inch and 15 inch?
When HP sends those! Not until January though.
In looking forward to that review, especially the 4k, 1050 ti.
Can anyone tell me if HP spectre x360 15 inch ( HP Spectre x360 - 15-ch012nr ) this model, in the latest gem cut version available for sale now ?
@@abrarhossain1409 I don't think so just search and you will get the exact model name.
@@abrarhossain1409 it is on sale right now for 1500, I checked.
Why did the cup moved position to be in camera.
Looks beautiful. Making a laptop out of a durable material is a great idea. All of us end up buying bulky cases - why not just have a laptop that can take some knocks?
The moment you lifted the screen to show how you can tent the screen it just... 🤯
It became so clear. I knew it was gonna lay flat and then the leather made so much sense! When you confirmed my rapid fire thoughts I could only think that HP are freaking geniuses. BRAVO! 😂
I can't stand the idea of touching keys in a 2 in 1 when in tablet mode. Or playing extra for a keyboard and pen. I LOVE my Surface Book 2. But being the person responsible for purchasing the electronics in the house I wanted the next laptop for my family to be a little lighter (and would still give me access to things I need if I choose it to carry around for school). And still useful productivity wise. I love the use of a pen and really wanted that option. I thought of the yoga book 1 and then 2 (C930) but the cost for its specs were disappointing. This seems like a really nice option 😍
100% Agreed!, I have the HP Spectre 360 2-in-1 and I HATE the trackpad, and is a shame because they are so close to the perfect laptops.
You had me sold until you got to the track pad. Guess I'll have to wait and see if they fix it in the next version.
You can change it without any problem I am going to buy this laptop and I am going to change the drivers
Just fix the _"freaking"_ drivers hahaha
You can change the touchpad drivers to Precision fairly easily - www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-precision-touchpad-drivers . Do you recognize the name of the author of the article, Dan? It's *you!!* (Note: the method apparently doesn't work on all computers, and howtogeek.com claims that the tweak was disabled in Fall Creators Edition (2017), but there are people who performed it successfully in the comments to Dan's article well into 2018 - so YMMV,
@@jeffbellin4416 I was using this method on my Probook 450 until said update, too bad I had to revert to Synaptics and use a mouse instead
@@jeffbellin4416 it works well on most HP synaptics trackpads
I have this HP Folio and tried to change the drivers using this website, unfortunately it does NOT work on this folio so Im returning this laptop tomorrow. This laptop is my favorite design and the keyboard is amazing, sadly, this crapy touch pad is deal breaker, I cannot stand the way it randomly jumps around and as much as I like to keep it a external mouse is out of the question.
Why will it not work on the Verizon Network? One would think a 4G LTE SIM card would be the same for all carrier networks
when i switched to Mac 9 years ago, i was captivated with the trackpad. up till now, which windows have equal feel of mac’s trackpad??
Huawei/honor, Dell XPS, Microsoft Surface Laptop 4
Sony VAIO flip did that mechanism long time ago.
Not leather
How'd it work out for them? lol
where can i download the wallpaper?
What are the thermals
If it had a 3:2 screen I'd be all about it
i bought this laptop as well and i had trackpad issues so i just replaced the drivers
dave2d made a video about how to change drivers
I did too (and first, ahem) www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-precision-touchpad-drivers Issue is, it doesn't really work anymore, or rather, it works poorly. Those drivers are from nearly 3 years ago and meant for another laptop.
I wonder if Synaptics is dumping a lot of money to HP to not go Precision... Just software anyway.
besweeeet2 you can change the drivers yourself 🤦♂️
@@sweetdreams1DIAM0ND The consumer shouldn't have to do something that should already be done OOTB 🤦♂️.
besweeeet2 well are you gonna buy another laptop because you dont like the wallpaper on this laptop? a driver change is as simple as changing a wallpaper. If you dont like it change it. but hey everyday in tech world I thank noob customers like you who sometimes cause price drops on the wrong products benefiting us...SO KEEP GOING . 😂
@@sweetdreams1DIAM0ND And if someone chooses the wrong driver then their trackpad might be unusable until they use an external mouse to fix it.
Driver updates aren't for general consumers. Using the wallpaper example doesn't work.
You lost all credibility with the second half of your comment. Good job.
besweeeet2 stay dumb like that....we love you, you benefit us 😂😎
I notice that also in our company using hp the touchpad is not good...agree on that....
Is it detachable?
Hey Dan. If I get lucky and you read this comment. The trackpad drivers can be changed without any issues. Check Dave Lee channel for that.
Thanks
Yea, but does it come in black?
leather can easily get scratched, go for the hp envy 360 or spectre 360
ok if you don't like this device, you gotta admit its bold.
No cooling fans?
Make it in the surface go size and ill take it
Looks interesting, but the NTrig pen makes me sad. EMR please, HP!
But can it run Infranodus?
Dave2D made a video about changing the mouse drivers. Try that
We did it first ;) www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-precision-touchpad-drivers And I did try it and it if it had solved my problem I would have mentioned it; it doesn't and that hack is not really very good anymore due to (1) drivers being very old (2) Windows 10 changing in latest updates.
7:55
Just asking, why do you recommend the LTE model? I’m having a dilemma of whether to choose the LTE or non-LTE model.
Sure choose with lte, so you have always internet available on any place you are
Marie cortan che couldn’t you just make a cellular hotspot on your smartphone?
Yes Hotspot is a solution too, but is more comfortable to have the internet connection from the Sim signal lte because putting on hotspot your smartphone you stress more the battery too
premiere pro?
It is killing me honestly 😍😍😍😍
yea if you're a cow lol
@@Bitech2 and your name shows your personality. Everyone has their own choice, you must understand Mr. Mega Asshole.
@@GjRajan you must be fun at parties
I have a 2017 Spectre 15 inch and i never use the trackpad, i hate it. It skips and is not accurate. I always use a mouse.
@TheRealBandito Yes. I just had Surface products before and making the switch from Precision to Synaptics, there's definitely a difference.
@@joshdiditt You should be able to force install precision drivers - see www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/6qz30h/enable_precision_touchpad_on_hp_spectre_x360_2017/
I set up a 2017 Spectre for a client and the only thing it bothered me was the fact you couln't "right-click" .
the screen is touch right? a bit weird but you could do it on the screen then right?
blankly01 Yeah... you could.
Really bad move by HP not putting precision drivers on this.
Though, you could just install precision drivers on the machine yourself. It works well with my old HP envy x360. Still that's an unreasonable ask for most consumers, should just come with precision touchpad
the screen is more like a tablet than a laptop !!!
U know what, u can upgrade the drivers to precision drivers from lenovo for free.
Does the screen support tilt function for the pen?
I've got a Spectre Folio which came for me with the HP Tilt Pen (some versions ship with the HP Active Pen).
Although mine was the tilt version, I've never been able to get tilt working on the device. That's a factor of the pen, and not the display, so maybe that explains Dan's choice of the Surface Pen?
make this case and keyboard universal for 10 in tablets now
i7-8550u , 16 GB RAM, 4k ultra hd, 4 gb graphic card ...?how much ?
IDK why they can't put the camera hole on the leather itself. Make one with less bezel and more screen space, I don't even want a bigger screen just reduce the overall size. I am pretty sure someone in corporate told the engineer, "hey make sure to have the HP logo on the screen and make it as big as possible, yea who cares about the bezel." This laptop if it has less bezel, and more screen real estate while at the same time folds the same way would have checked all of my buttons.
After dealing with third party touchpad drivers breaking with Win 10 updates the past few years, the fact that it has Synaptics def kills the sale.
Is that Alpha m.’s intro?
At this moment, there doesn't appear to be any way of customizing the Ram and SSD sizes. You can only choose between the i5 or i7 variant. They're only offering 8GB ram and 256GB SSD. That's too bad and a deal breaker for me.
HOW DO I BUY THIS IN INDIA?
this dude is the biggest microsoft fanboy!!
It's not hard to install windows drivers; my laptop had ELAN drivers, I installed precision drivers and now it's much much better. Haven't had stability issues or major problems with them either.
Yes, I wrote that guide. It still sucks because using 2-3 year old Precision drivers for a ThinkPad on a 2018 HP device still causes issues. Let's not make excuses here for HP. It sucks, end of story.
hey dan you can change the drivers
Kinda. I have done the "Precision hack" which uses drivers from like 2-3 years ago. It's still not really good at all and causes some other odd issues as well.
hm it's called using a mouse...
OR THE TOUCHSCREEN
Lovely use of materials
Do you think this would be sufficient for minor Solidworks designing?
InsAznKlown 3 Probably has the computing power. You might need an external mouse, and the display would be a little tight
@@john40539 thats what Im hoping for, I have a desktop I can run solidworks but looking for something portable that isnt a surface
Why would anyone use the track pad in tent mode when there is a touch screen?
carbon Mostly nice to have. Windows is still not that great on touch.