Is the PSG project DONE?! Did Lionel Messi lack heart in the UCL? | ESPN FC
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- The ESPN FC crew react to Lionel Messi’s role in Paris Saint-Germain’s disappointing defeat to Real Madrid in the Champions League. Gemma Soler reports on Messi’s downturn in recent years and why the project at PSG may be finished.
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We’ve heard this before by Tuchel before leaving PSG. He hated the environment and felt that he couldn’t coach properly because of the higher ups and the megastars and that’s definitely what’s happened to pochettino too. PSG is going nowhere with the higher ups they currently have
The EGOS are too big..Pride comes before the fall
Then why it lack ambition ?
they just need a galactico coach like ancelotti or zidane
Yes you are right they play with pride not with passion and the of of the club and fans
@@C.J1106 PSG used to be coached by ancelotti...
Nobody talking about marquinhos whose awful performance led to two goals and also donnaruma
or messi missing a pen that could have made things completely different. marquinhos has been solid all season and donnaruma is just a flop like messi, but neither of them earns 45m a year.
@@juniorolumide Defense costed 3 goals by POOR defending. Messi just 1.
I give 0/10 for marquinos
@@wowo1005 1 goal can make a difference depending on the context. If he scored the pen, that would be 2-0 in the first leg and they would have been up 3-0 by half time yesterday. Morally, that makes more difference than you think, but im not gonna argue with messilovers xd.
@@juniorolumide can't really say it would have ended 2-0 if he scored - that assumes the same set of events which is not a true proportion and sample
I love The passion Real Madrid Fans showed when Mbappe Scored they actually clapped it was amazing
@Ludovic Breixo nah his good
mannn i know you saw every mbappe run he made, HE LITERLLY WAITS FOR MILITAO TO COME BACK ON DEFENCE EVERYTIME!! he was always away goal and all he wants to do is slow down mad get it on his right foot…. he needs to get better at breakaways
@Ludovic Breixo and what are you in life? Nothing but a hater
@Ludovic Breixo I agree that he has picked up some bad habits, but he is an incredible talent nonetheless.
@Ludovic Breixo mad?
This was the game when PSG needed Ramos. He is a true leader!
do you think psg are going to terminate his contract this summer?
@@Zayedishere if he continues to stay injured then maybe
Ramos & angel di maria starting instead of Neymar & Danilo we would have done so much better
Crazy how Di-Maria did not start...
@@goldenclovds1760 they should've left both him and messi out the team
If this was CR7 then these people would have definitely said he is over and he should go to MLS.
They would say he needs to retire ASAP
I don't know what'a wrong with them, neymar actually made an assist and made clear chances for messi for example, but they go after him rather than messi who didn't do anything
@@Ihaaab neymar did nothing Messi was trash it's True but neymar was Also trash
against 36 year old Modric neymar loose the ball easily and that lead a counter attack for Real Madrid and that assist wasn't even special mbappe did a whole thing by himself stop hyping neymar performance for that assist
@@Sonicboom726 if it was messi that gave the assist to mbappe no one would have said the same thing bro, OPEN YOUR EYES
@@Ihaaab first of all i don't need to open my eyes cause i am not messi fan you can try again stop justifying neymar Poor performance against real madrid even his die hard fans Also knows that he was very poor against real madrid
I see Messi as an introverted person who is calm and keeps everything to himself. Even in Barca, the one who usually rallies the team's morale by shouting on the pitch is more likely to be Pique even though Messi is the captain
Messi was never the captain of Barcelona, regardless of the armband.
Exactly. Technical skill has nothing to do with being a leader. Messi doesn't have the personality to be a leader.
Facts. Even tho messi had the captain band he was still one of the quietest players on the pitch. He just isn’t a leader imo. Still an amazing player and my favorite player but to me he’s not.
Agreed. Hes amazing at playing but he carries HIS load. Not the team's if they drop the ball.
Maradona once said it that he doesn’t have qualities as a captain
Messi's heart is still at Barcelona. Maybe being at Man City would've brought a spark out of him. He's definitely not 'old' like these experts seem to think.
PSG is just a collection of great players, not a team.
Facts 🐐🇦🇷
But Mbappe at least can do something.
He has many, many years without really contributing in UCL. He was the best paid player, signing 9 contracts in 11 years, and only winning Ligas and Copas del Rey. His last Pichichi was won scoring 27 of his 29 goals , against the last seven teams in the table. Only his fans couldn't and can't see that it's not the change from Barcelona to PSG that matters...
Messi has been done since 2016. I think he hit peak in 2015 lifting his last champions league I think he lost hunger to win the big titles. He was never the líder. and is sad having guidance from Puyol, Márquez, xavi, Valdez Dani alves are great field leaders he never took something from them
@Daniel Odey Messi has 1 goal and 0 assists , from 2011 to 2022 , in all games in wich his team has been eliminated from UCL. You didn't know?
Also, when Barcelona had that epic comeback against PSG in the 2016-2017 Champion League, it was Neymar who was the catalyst, but people were praising Messi.
U watched the Neymar documentary
@@cameronauguste9100 Started it, not finish watching it.
basically why neymar left barca
The project is done, PSG bought the best players they could possibly buy. And they can’t win the champions league. Mbappe is leaving and Neymar is finished and Messi doesn’t seem to even be in PSG it looks like his heart is still at Barcelona.
I'll correct you here, they bought the most marketable players, not the best.
For a decade they spoiled
I'm loving PSGs downfall. I hope Messi does well in Argentina's shirt.
@Secret Ronaldo fan boys are spottable from miles away. Bro he literally just won copa america and almost single-handedly brough Arg to the WC final. clown emoji
@@abcyadeadYMCK Copa America is not that hard tbh. Real test will be WC.
The sad reality, as a Barca fan, is that this is the Messi we've seen in big games for the past half decade. And this does not mean that everyone is blaming Messi for the entire meltdown against Madrid, since I know a lot of fans are so hyper-sensitive about any criticism he receives that they turn to hyperbole. We saw this against Atleti in the second leg in 15'. We saw this against Juventus in 16'. We saw this against Roma in the second leg in 17'. We saw this against Liverpool in the second leg in 18. We saw this against Bayern in 19'. In big UCL games later in his career, when it gets tough, he hangs his head and stops working completely. Against Bayern, he was the Captain, and he literally lost possession 2 or 3 times late in that match and didn't even bother to try and retrieve it. Just gave up. We would never see that from Puyol when he was Captain or Xavi when he was Captain. Lose? Yes. Lose bad? Yes. Lose like that? No. 36 year old Modric literally put in more effort than him in the last half hour of that match, which was the biggest match for PSG and the entire reason he was brought in.
Agreed
Barca fan here too. Agreed!
1000% agreed. Its so cringe to see fanboiz cannot accept the truth, the reality, they keep finding the excuse and blame teammates.
So you're basically telling that barca and psg bottling ucl is all on messi 👌
the problem is that you dont play soccer , you dont understand how demoralizing it is to being trying your best upfront only for your other players to be terrible.
Look at messi at barca. Messi was basically carrying barcelona the goals and asists he was creating were not easy. then you have a barcelona defense and Gk that are completely trash. 80% of the time that barcelona got attacked last year they conceded a goal
It all depends on how you use a player. Look how Xavi and koeman used luuk de jong
For me psg had massive problem with player that can't see empty space. Messi and Hakimi have free space to make counter attack and RM players nowhere near to them but they didn't get the ball.
Ouch
Yeah, i agree because PSG doesn't have any structure in the system everybody knows one thing pass the ball to Mbappe and he will save us that is not how it works. during the whole game how many times was Messi left unmarked and he was begging for the ball and never got it PSG kept searching for the crowded spaces no room and forcing to play where there is no free space even at 45+ i saw Verratti coming in the same that Jordi Alba used to do and guess what Messi at the penalty spot totally alone unmarked begging for the ball and didn't get it from Verratti that was the moment that Messi stopped playing and gave up there is so much a player can do before getting frustrated.
The moral of the story is nobody gives him the ball Messi is a totally different player in Argentina than he is in this PSG in Argentina he is more alive more like Barcelona type and watch him in the next WQ qualifiers do exact that and then people start asking questions why doesn't he play like that for PSG because you don't include him you ignore him It's a shame that he ended up here in PSG instead of Man City with his best friend Pep. Pep would know how to play him and get the best out of him just like he did in Barcelona.
@@this_is_it_sports20 that's true him barley went to midfield for the ball that just shows verrati started passing to messi alot in previous games they both have the little chemistry when messi play for Argentina you'll see the team has one of the best chemistry that's fact I love how they don't always depend on messi also
I've said it before, and I'll say it again PSG is a counterattacking team: but only for Mbappe; if they can't see him, then they won't play the ball, because that's how they're ars structured.
Not just heart, he locked everything I watched only the second half and I did not realise he was playing until the free kick in the 80s.
Well he was the best in he 1st half and gave many oppos for Mbappe and helped a lot in defense
@@Trance18 he wasn’t the best lol calm down. He was better but mbappe has been carrying him all season
You shall all remeber psg is not messi team like fcb its mbappe so mbappe will be the star not messi, and people alwys forget that.
@@jesseparkins7838 We saw Mbappe wasting two easy chances before he scored and one of them was Messi cutting the ball in defense from Benzema dribbling and carriying it to the middle and the only chance Messi had in first half he worked for that chance , Messi's biggest problem in PSG so far is that they don't play out of position it is like evryone are stick to their position and they play the same way either to the left or right there is no creativity , I have seen Messi this year makes tons of runs after he dribbles looking for the 1×2 but no one gives it backe Except Neymar nd Mbappe sometimes
What a stupid comment, you just exposed yourself that you didn’t watch game . Keep hating him if that makes you happy. What a sad life…
Thank you Psg for giving us Mbappe free this summer. Next summer we'll be back to get hakimi
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"us"
Hakimi😃😀why now.
Watch him not win one ucl at All lol
lol would be interesting to see hakimi back at real Madrid
In my opinion, a big fault of this mess is Marquinhos. He has been the captain of this PSG team for a while now, it’s up to him to get everyone calm and collected. The back line crumbled after the first goal and as the captain and leader of the back line, it’s your job to to calm your teammates down and organize yourselves. A great example is someone like Van Dijk, Puyol, and even Ramos. These guys are true leaders at the back. Marquinhos failed to do his job. Also, it has been very clear for years that Messi is NOT a leader. Messi is not expressive or vocal at all, but that’s okay because it can be someone else’s job. I think it’s very ignorant to solely blame Messi for the loss.
Welcome to Ronaldo world.
Van Dijk ?....what he did last year to save his team from elimination or for Netherlands ?
@@gorandamianovici5720 Ronaldo world?
@@josep4259 Yeah Ronaldo is a very good leader, thats what he means
@@LilmeMusic
Ronaldo has never even been a team captain😂😂 he never lead anyone
Ronaldo shouts at his teammates to do better and he's called a problem. Messi puts his head down and fanboys come up with every excuse for his poor form. Be consistent guys. At Messis current age Ronaldo was Juves top scorer in Italy. They called him the problem then. At 37 he's still man Uniteds top scorer even if he's flopping 😅
Factos
You’re 100 percent right. Ronaldo is the better striker.
Ronaldo shout for ball to score and that a big differences…. Because it all about him and his goals…. Messi will do all he can thats it
ESPN tried to say Ronaldo was finished in 2017 when he won La Liga and the UCL 😂
Watch French football still give him the balon dor even if he ends the season with 5 league goals 😂
“Messi is too old”. He’s the same age of Benzema who scored a hat-trick in the same game. The problem with Messi is that he can’t play outside of an environment that he’s familiar with. He physically is in Paris but mentally can’t leave Barcelona or Argentina. No one also seems to have noticed that he just played against a Spanish team he was trained to see as a rival, that will have a psychological impact on numerous levels.
He should be eager to hurt real madrid think abt ronaldo gettin a penalty vs barca how greedy he grab dat ball
3:09 is the most honest punditry I’ve heard on this show… Messi has always folded when his team isn’t performing.
You clearly don’t watch football
@@agustinbjr yoU cLeARly dOnT waTcH foOtBalL 🤣😂🤣😂
@@agustinbjr you clearly don't
@@Ihaaab you clearly don’t
Fax since 2016 in CL
Problem with PSG is they play in Ligue 1 where they are NEVER tested so they actually never know what their level actually is
So the minute they are in European competitions they are out lol
I used to think the same, but shouldn't that be beneficial to them? They always fresh, and they get to spend more time planning for the UCL matches. They can almost ignore the Uber eats matches
I get the logic and it’s definitely possible but isn’t it the same with Bayern Munich? They are way above the rest in Bundesliga but always play well in CL
@Thomas Wu lyon or Marseille can maybe
@Thomas Wu rennes or lille too
@@raheem6218 You'd think so but you also have to look at the other side too. Football at that level is extremely competitive and high quality. You can't expect players to just turn it on like that when there is a huge game if they aren't being prepared for it and tested on a regular basis. And for PSG there is absolutely no pressure for them until around February/March when CL knockouts begin. Because they usually breeze through the league and group stages. But their problems go deeper than that. Look at Bayern. They're in a similar position. A super talented team in a "weaker" league. Yet come CL knockouts they usually perform well and go deep in the tournament. PSG's problem is they invested in the wrong players. They only went after the sexiest names for marketing purposes. To sell shirts, fill the stadium and grow their brand. You need true professionals and hungry players if you want to win the CL. Guys who work and grind and for whom football is their entire life. People Like Muller, Lewandowski, Modric, Kante, etc.
Messi missing the penalty in the 1st leg was also a big factor 🙄
Donaruma assit and Marqinos assit
Not yet
Bro penalty is like a gamble.
@@chrisbreezymuzic9745 no it’s not 50 : 50, penalties also decided by the taker and goalkeeper qualities
@@superiorgaming8086 you cannot be 100% certain that someone is going to score a penalty no wonder how good he is. Ofcourse there might be big odds he might convert but there is a possibility he might miss. Therefore penalty is like a gamble
Honestly I don't think messi is the problem here, psg has an internal problem and they need a head coach that can handle these players like jeulz said have the freedom to play or bench who he wants, if your not performing take a seat, seems like the players are overwhelming the coach
And im still waiting for LM30 masterclass for psg, its been an extremely long season, feels like its taking forever to come..
Jules saying he was surprised seeing Messi putting his head down, don't you watch Barca in the last 4 seasons? The writings are on the wall, most of us aren't surprised at all 🤷♂️
He disappeared because nobody got him the friggin ball.... The defense and midfield gave it away at every opportunity. None of the forwards did anything... How could they
Messi just doesn’t have that passion with PSG as he did with Barca, but also Shaka is right, PSG doesn’t have the right players to help Messi other than Verratti and Mbappe
It's so obvious
Messi cares more about his 3 little boys now days.
Oh really, you have refused to criticize Messi, and claiming he doesn't have the right players to support him.
But when it's come to Ronaldo you would say he is the problem at man united. What a joker u are.
Kinda of hard to when they don’t pass u the ball when ur open and look for other people or they try to run through 5 players
He bottled in Barca towards the end of his time (4 seasons in the UCL).. no difference
To be fair if Donarumma kicks that ball out of bounds Paris makes it past Madrid
But he didn't
Yup
Phrase it properly. There's no harm to speak truth. Say it like as it is. "He has failed to adapt in a different team, different city, different environment. He has failed to come out of his comfort zone." There's no harm admitting the truth.
God bless you brother
May you leave long.
How come hes won everthing with argentina?? Apart from the world cup.
But wins all individual awards with argentina?? I.e best player???
The problem with you stupid ronaldo fans is your too busy hating on messi you end up lying about things.
P.s isnt he top assists ?
As much as I love Messi,PSG signing him will remain one of their worst decisions ever,his decline aside...he just seems very uninterested,it's like he doesn't realize that PSG are not Barcelona,they can't really retain the ball well.....PSG should go for hungry n young players instead of established stars like Neymar n Messi....even players like Draxler give this team their all unlike them
Messi need better players around him just like Ronaldo
@@mosesgutierrez8744 lmao, PSG is literally a super team.
psg should start beahaving as a footballing institution than a footballing brand....i am a psg fan personally i do not know the reason they signed messi and ramos other than that hakimi and nuno were great signing...to accomodate messi in the starting lineup we had to restructure the whole tactics which harmed they way we played....they let go of thiago and buyed a injured ramos
@@azure89 that’s the problem …. Mbappe almost never passes to messi
@@azure89 They're not a super team though... A super team is one that performs to the level of a side like Bayern, City or Liverpool, and doesn't fall apart under pressure. They don't have a manager who is good enough to get them to that level, while their current midfield is far from top class. They lack creativity, and are reliant on Verratti to hold them together.
@Jules when did he take leadership? Please give an example. The thing is psg doesnt have any structure whether its possenional soccer or whatever. Still he is effective in Argentina national team. Psg needs zedan, no excuse
Because they have no goals to progressed
Juls always says the right thing but not today not about Messi! Did you see the backliine. The ball never came even to the midfield for like 15-20 minutes. What do you expect of Messi!
Yea see you miss the point because you feel attacked. Messi isn't expected to do EVERTHING. But he's expected to bring much more then what he did show out there. Either you understand it or you don't
Messi is a ghost every time thing go south it a fact Rome LFC Bayern Madrid athletico Juventus
He had his chances, decided to go for extra dribbles and failed. Your goat is washed
@@CRUZ4DEforW0RLDPE4CE With 7 Ballon dors😂
More effort from 7 bdor
Messi's mentality in big moments, not showing fighting spirit and desire on a losing cause, would always be blemish on his legacy. He has not been same since copa america, very sharp decline
@@navminhas412 not lazy, you know what happend last year he will work much harder for Qatar.
Imagine being able to say,"you're stuck with Messi!"...yes please
There are many reasons to criticize messi, but when your goal keeper blunders a game like this, what other choice does any players up-front have but to put your head down?? Run back and start goal keeping? The front line did their job and did it well. The backline of psg doesnt have the heart, never did and never will.. Modric, Ramos, Puyol, Dani Alves etc etc have heart you need those players with that mentality and just one super star up-front. All these firepower up front not needed.
Exactly
Lose you blame Messi even if he gives assist Mbappe get the accolades. Not saying Mbappe is bad he is one of my future favorites. But put the blame on one player that's perfectly illogical.
@@2000cx Well Messi also missed a crucial penalty. Stop deffending Messi his first season outside Barcelona was a complete failure. He just cant adapt to other teams he also had this problem with Argentina for a loooooong time. Messi is like a spoiled child if things don't go his way then he stops functioning.
@Pedro Arciniega sounds like you were the Argertina coach when Messi had this problem . Another idiotic analyse from Mr Pedro the coach
@@petersonofleo11 ok so missing a penalty means a bad season. Ever thought his role is different here and he's doing great for his role. By your logic, MBappe never won a single UCL so would you say he's a complete failure at PSG. Back line in PSG is not organized. Messi is not a shouting leader, never was never will be. He does one what he does and does it best in the history of the game, so STFU.
even me as the biggest Messi fan was happy PSG went out. Messi is still one of the best players in the world, you dont have a decline like that in just 1 year. Many sources have said that he is not happy in Paris. He is running on 60% because he dont like PSG and wants to come back to barca. I hope he does, maybe not as an attacker but maybe as a number 8 like iniesta or xavi. his passing is still insane
what sources are those?
If you are right in the claim that he chooses to play at 60% then Messi will be the worst sports person ever along with anybody that does not give 100%
If I'm barca I'm not buying him barca should just focus on the future and not the past and grow there young talent
You are claiming that Messi is unprofessional and lacks drive then. Good one.
@@douglaswalters2670 messi is heavily tattooed and eats junk food when he can, he all has a suspended sentance for tax crimes. Very professional...
5:45 Jules explaining Poch is in the same situation as Ralf at Utd player power fc😂
Messi's face after the modric tackle says it all. That was a dead man's look.
It's just the chemistry doesn't work when all the megastars are being put together..🙄
That's what I saw during the match. Even when Mbappe scored the 2nd goal, Messi felt lackluster. He's coping with the fact that he's not a Barca player.
Even @ Barca he was being humiliated left right & center. Maybe you've forgotten Bayern Roma LFC & now PSG. There's a reason Barca couldn't wait to show him door but had to find excuses coz of their emotional fans but now they can see from far
Lol he's not coping with anything. He's just finally out of his comfort zone and his form stinks.
At PSG this season Lionel Messi is averaging about the same goal to match ratio. That he does in major international tournaments. Just slightly better than 1 goal every 3 matches played. Still his goal assisting still been very good this season. Not that that makes up for his average goalscoring this season at PSG. Because it really doesn't.
@@FountainOfYoot you mean like Ronaldo
@@HafizShivji786 Yeah, because it was all his fault... Pique was far more culpable for those defeats, given he was part of the defence that conceded a total of 21 goals in those games. Despite that, he's still there. Messi has to take his share of the blame, yet trying to make it seem like he was the issue for those defeats is delusional. He's the main reason why they had that 3-0 lead to take to Anfield, while he created 3 chances in that second leg. He also scored both their goals against PSG.
I would say his heart is still at Barcelona. But PSG played to just suit mbappe on the counter attack. Messi at Barcelona always played on the front foot and possession based and that’s where he excels especially in his older age now.
Messi at Barcelona never finished a game completely exhausted. If you don’t then you did not give 100 percent. He did the same thing when Barcelona lost in the champions league
I cant believe they are shocked messi disappeared in the champions laegue every year since 2016 he's disappeared
I feel like the main reason is that he’s not motivated enough to actually care. I doubt it’s his age. There were some surprises earlier this season but that’s about it. Hopefully his mentality changes for the WC.
He was whining at Bartomeu for not building a serious squad to win the "copa tan linda" and then after joining PSG he said he was at best place to win the UCL. He wanted to lift that trophy again before retiring.
@@edd0f but time is running out
Motivated how?
What other motivation does he need? He earns way more than any player there, he is being paid the highest salary of his life.
What else.?
Just accept it, Messi is nothing without Barcelona.
And it's been proven
2 things
1. Messi not as emotionally invested bc he is at psg and not Barca
2. PSG problem is not that they have “too many good players” but rather that there is not top down healthy culture.
I never realized how many people hated PSG. Everybody I met this morning had a big smile on their face 😂
You are very right. It's only regular defeat but they inflated it. And Messi, lol, the same story about his leadership after his failures every recent years, even though he showed his fighting spirit at COPA last year.
@Sajid Ahmed but he knows that was his last chance to win and know what the goal is all along. It's a shame that Messi was not the captain. He should have been more comformtable.
They dont hate Psg
THEY JUST REALLY LIKE Real Madrid
I don't like ANY fake oil clubs .
This will teach PSG that money don't buy Champions League
Signing messi was a mistake, he's clearly on the decline and it's only gonna get worse. PSG need to get of him asap.
not to mention that they dint need him xd
@Ludovic Breixo Ronaldo took care of him self better than Messi
@@juniorolumide fax
@@juniorolumide By that logic, united didn't need Ronaldo....
ramos would have never allowed this to happen, he is a true leader in defense.
Yeah he good but nah if you really watch his game in madrid, he also kinda sloppy, people just scared of him cause he aggressive and like to make dangerous tackles, that’s why he got the most red card 🤷🏽
@@donhariz3752 i think psg choked rather than lost, ramos would have handled better after first goal maybe
@@donhariz3752 he may not be the best player on the pitch, but he is a great motivator of players, i mean one example would be varane, varane under him is a confident and strong defender becuase he is alongside a leader, however you don't see this same varane at united, becuase there is no leader at the back beside him.
Juls gotta understand that Messi doesen't like PSG at all, nor did he want the go there in the first place, it was the only option, he's vocal where he is truly comfortable and confident in aka Barcelona and Argentina.
6:05 😆🤣😂 thought I'd imagined it till Dan said it
MESSI IS THE GOAT to me. There will never be another... but it hurts to see him walking all around the pitch and barely tracking back or pressing effectively. Of course Messi is not out there to defend but the modern game has changed. Playing as a team and defending wins high stakes tournaments. Donna and Marquinhos certainly got the ball rolling in this embarrassing defeat but for it to be Real Madrid, having a front line of Neymar and Mbappe, no assist or goal in this series... it hurts to see the lack of motivation and drive from Messi... but within everyone it is envitable.
As great as Messi was, he’s finished now.
Are you sure that in 17' when Real scored 3 goals Messi should run toward Donna and ask him a ball, then bring it forward? If you think it is good for the team, so it is Messi's fault for not doing that.
Bro Messi gets no respect from PSG players. Stop talking about look up to. They no even looking to pass the ball to him even in goal scoring position. PSG is all about kicking it to Mbappe and let him run.
Thats a fact..
Stevie 👏👏👏👏you still called it
I lost it when he said goat 🤣
No doubt he is one of the greatest player of all time but messi gets away with lots of poor performances too. Everytime they come up with excuses like his heart, he is not happy bla bla. Just previous segments you said that criticism is a part of the job. When i saw 34yr benzema and 36 yr modric was running past him he was walking.
I’m probably one of the biggest Messi fans out there, I’ve seen all his individual highlights in basically every single one of his games since 2009 and I can tell you I’m quite disappointed. And it’s true, this isn’t the first or second time we see Messi do this. I’ve seen this attitude in many important games. Trust me it’s not age, bc yes Messi isn’t as fast, doesn’t have the same acceleration as before, so yes he is slowly aging but as a decent soccer player myself, I know when a player is hungry and passionate. It’s evident, the sense of urgency, the desire to want the ball at your feet, the desire to run at players and turn them left and right, and that’s what Messi does best. Messi has never been a player who is extraordinarily fast, Messi has always depended more on his low center of gravity, his unparalleled ball control at such great speeds, and his perfect timing body feints, so he could honestly still be doing that all that at 34. If Modric can run and hustle at 36 then Messi is definitely still physically capable of doing the same. Messi has never been a vocal leader so I obviously would never expect that from him, but there’s so much he could have done, especially in the second half after the goals came, but honestly it doesn’t matter bc he has done this other times as well so I honestly question his passion and hunger for the game.
Maradona coached Argentina, and said that Messi was not a leader. And he didn’t necessarily mean vocal. You can be a silent leader by showing the rest of the team that you’re going to take the bull by the horns and lead them.
You are very right! But sometimes you need to have ball to show your passion and hunger. You can see this when Neymar and M3P tried to take the ball by themselves toward Real. Where is Messi? He is on the right side, and they didn't pass the ball to him, what you did not see in Barca. I mean it is difficult to do individually in modern soccer, someone at the back need to help to pass him the ball. Can Messi take risk to run like he did when he was 19-23?
@@jcbones3098 he still got to the finals of every competition and won some of them while not being "a leader"
@@senwosret1 Which competitions are you talking about?
Why exactly are messi, neymar, and di maria still being seen as big world cup threats??? They're all aging..
Why are the surprised he put his head down. He has been doing that in the UCL for years. PSG, Bayern, Liverpool, Roma.
Messi is not to blame it was simply a dream performance of Benzema and some costly defensive mistakes
It is as simple when a team loses people start pulling negatives
he was horrible
Messi had no impact on the game. The amount of money he makes, the amount of ability he has, one expects better of him.
@@paramchavan9872 That's not true. His impact was there to be seen for two thirds of the game. However, when PSG capitulated, he and the attack suffered. The same applied to Neymar and even Mbappe in the last 30 mins. They weren't getting the ball, so didn't have a chance to influence things. Yes, he should have moved more, and worked harder, but if your team struggles to assert themselves then it's very hard to make a difference.
Doesn't change the fact that messi was a ghost and contributed nothing in the match
@@Gfresh844 nope even in the first 60 minutes he had no impact. He only had one good combination with neymar and the early counterattack for mbappe. But he is not as good as Ronaldo so it’s OK but for him to play like that. After all not everyone can turn up under pressure
If he isn't going up against Eibar or Bolivia, he's a ghost!
he has more goals against real madrid
messi is owner of that team
He fucked up united arsenal and city several times sleep hater
@@kamuixobitobi507 probably because he's played the most against them
And he can't be the owner of a team that he hasn't showed up for in the last 10 games😂
Messi aka the ghost of madrid 👻👻
He's scored 27 of his career goals against Eibar and Bolivia. How do you account for the other 732??
@@kamuixobitobi507 lost 6 clasicos in a row
Finally a little bit of criticism on the Messi fan channel
Pundits blamed Juventus failure in the UCL to the signing of Ronaldo back then...
But are so comfortable to blame PSG and not Messi now...
PSG got to the final last season without Messi but couldn't get to the quarter finals with Messi...
But Messi is never to blame.. His wages never upset the dressing room, NEVER
Messi is not quite motivated at PSG right now because of the coach and some players who refused to help him on the field and their preference to help Mbappe rather than the team. I have been watching Messi playing for 12 years and I am confused about him at PSG . There is something wrong at PSG he refused to dribble and do magic in the final third which he has been doing all his life at Barca.
This defeat made me so happy for 4 main reasons:
- Having an unlimited amount of money to buy mercenaries and build TOTY FUT Squad in real life DOESN'T work! Everyone see that turning PSG into QSG year after year was an antisportive idea.
- Diminishing Nasser's argument against the superleague (the guy who illegitimately make an opposition to the biggest historical clubs which asks for a change in football against UEFA and proposes some radical reforms in order to deconstruct the monopolistic positon of UEFA in football). Some clubs would stupidly think that these historical clubs claim now the superleague because their clubs are going down but this argument is stupid at first. A lot of reasons are behind these but Nasser was hiding behind this one only.
- Giving PENALDO another doubt and frustration for next year to find his future club! A club at his service to give him his unconditional satisfaction of letting him believe that he's the best player in the world and that he's superior than his teammates and he's of course the reason why the team is wining trophies. Now that he saw that PSG's plan to make TOTY stars squad is completely questioning by everyone around the club as these players are considered mercenaries without humility; PENALDO's plan to go to PSG next year is almost dead because everyone will mock PSG to continue in the wrong direction! It will no more considered a mistake but a stupidity and absurdity from the club! Their consolidated image and reputation will be completely destroyed. It will be funny what reaction will PENALDO and his agent will have about all of this because his only plan was PSG and his relationship with Manchester United is now dead lol with everyone inside or outside the club! Worst case scenario for PENALDO!
- Finally, people who voted and considered Neymar the third best player in the world for almost 8 years now are today completely discredited. His arrogance, humility and stupidity will never make him a golden ball winner! He had a very good potential at BARCA and should have been the next golden winner after Ronaldo and Messi but he never made a very high impact in PSG! He ruined himself by being injured or too much suffisant on the field where you can see players who fight 100 times more in other clubs and therefore showed 100 times more continuity in terms of performance. We should not give a goden ball to a guy because of his potential but because if his performance. Benzema has less potential than Neymar but who shows a level of performance higher than the other because of work and professionalism. Neymar=antiprofessionalism athlete!
Could be that age finally caught up with him or he’s frankly just in it for the money tbh
@@escape2nirvana Age is just a number look at Benzema and Modric have the same age they are going bang bang but Messi is fitter than them. You can blame Messi if the game revolves around him, In PSG Messi is nonexistent. Look at those pathetic players first and then come to Messi.
@@pchow2924 I think age has got to him, even CR7, the best players adapt their games when they age Messi hasn’t
He just doesn't have the winning mentality of GOATS like Tom brady and Michael Jordan. He's still one of the best ever, but when the pressure and heat is on, he's more likely to ghost than to shine
nothing new, he's always been like that. 0 leadership, always with his head down
Dont mention Brady nfl is a joke of a sport.brady has no athleticism about him whatsover,he shouldnt even be called an athlete.
Cristiano Ronaldo est un leader....
@@Zz-gu6xx bro brady is a goat and a all time great athlete in any sport he has more championships than any team in the NFL ever
Imagine a player with more championships leagues than Real Madrid lol
Don’t try and mention basketball and American football to this three completely different sports
I cannot see anyone talking about how the backline collapsed after the first goal..The defense was absolute disaster...I dont know what marquinos was doing instead of clearing the ball he placed it to benzema
"in last 4 years whne things go hard messi is not there"
"messi was never a leader"
she doesnt know what she is talking about .Messi was a reason Barca come this far he had barca in his shoulder for at least 5 years he doesnt need to scream in the pitch as others do.Messi can play midfielder striker a playmaker forward and winger meanwhile cristiano just wait in the box waiting for his teams delivery
meanwhile messi does organize the game and in top of that he scores goals too .
If they would’ve started Navas and benched Neymar for di maria/draxler, they would’ve won. Possibly things would’ve gone better if Ramos was healthy and started over Marquinhos.
Should of would of could of
If PSG Won there would be now talk about how Messi helped defensively and had a great 1st half, but that's the price to pay for being the best , you get the blame when Donaroma & Marqinhos give away goals . You have to watch Messi with Argentina he plays with Passion , with PSG other players may be except for Paredes they don't even give him the ball back when he makes runs , there was one ball he was so open but Verratti didn't pass it back which probably would've been a goal . PSG as a whole lack chemistery , they need a coach who works on that because talent is not everything , Neymar was horrible and he was the reason for the 2nd goal but no lets blame Messi
They need a big name. Someone who is proven. Like ancelotti or conte
@@MrEkirt May be except Anchelotti the others don't suit them , they have dkilled players Conte and Semeone are defensive coaches , they need an attacking coach with a klopp's or Tuchel's Mentality someone that doesn't allow the BS , you can see how the players feel that they are bigger than the Club
I've been saying the same thing. Donnarumma made a cockup for the first goal, 2nd goal Marquinhos tries to play an offside trap without checking behind him, raised his hands up instead of playing to the whistle, and his last ditch tackle wouldn't have deflected onto the net, the 3rd goal directly from a restart of the 2nd goal, he decides to do one better and lay off a pass to Benzema himself. How exactly was Messi responsible for this, I don't get it.
@@seehleD because Messi has been the greatest and his haters will look for anything to blame it on him , the haters will never stop doing that and even if there is no logic there they will still hate , They hold all those finals losses for Argentina against him for the longest time and they said he can never be the GOAT untill he wins something and when he did , they still act the same . I hope he finishes his Career with the 2022 WC which Im sure they will still say something against
Messi and Hakimi is so underutilized.
I hate PSG for making Messi look like an average player. It is frustrating to see him open so many times
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I think I love psg for making everyone see who Messi truly is.
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@@charleseffiom1770 LOLLXXXXXXX NOT LIKE THAT.
HAHA 😆
why is everyone so surprise?? this is messi, this is what he has been doing in barca since 2016 and in argentina all his life 🤷♂️
I remember when folks wrote Modric off a few years ago, after the 18/19 season when Madrid looked awful. He had a poor spell. Messi is in a poor spell as well. Is it not enough to just say that?
There’s a desperation from people to be able to predict the future/be proved right. It’s not enough to just wait and see what comes next.
i agree, he definitely has at the very least 2 seasons left with PSG and there’s no saying that the plan and system is dead. Also it’s absolute nonsense to say Messi hasn’t performed this season. Obviously he’s not at his prime but having 17 g/a in 25 games is an incredible stat that would be the prime for most players. They simply lost this game because of a defensive collapse and it’s embarrassing to make an entire video dedicated to bashing Messi when he didn’t really have much to do with what happened.
Messi with argentina is still rejuvenated, copa america was just last year, messi performs like the best player in the world with national team, i don't think he is finished, the thing was this psg project was revolving around mbappe not messi, at barca everything revolved around messi and he performed like a king for 15 years, Psg need to fix all these things after mbappe leaves
"Messi perform like the best player in the world...'
Messi perform in copa america:
Most assists against weaker teams
Most goals against weaker teams
Played garbage in the final
Yes, clearly top notch perform of Messi.
Honest question, when have you ever seen Messi or a team with Messi, grind out a result against equal or superior opposition? He's the all time best, *when things are going their way.
Did you think with the best and top player in one team that mean their are the best and will always win when they have a game and did you think each player always in good perform when they in the fiield, if you think that way you a wrong.
Been saying it for a long time. Messi is done at the highest level. It's mind boggling how people are only seeing it now. What? Now he's finished but 6 months ago he was Ballon d'Or "best player on the planet?". Nonsense. He's been steadily declining for years. Last year's Ballon d'Or was a sham and everyone who isn't a biased Messi worshipper or Barcelona fan knows it's true. Even last year his stats were very deceptive. He went something like 3 whole months without scoring from open play. Only penalty kicks and free kicks. Think about that. When you think of Messi you think of a guy who would dribble past defenders with ease and score all sorts of difficult goals. For me he was officially finished then and there. I don't ever remember CR7 or Lewandowski going 3 whole months without scoring from open play. Keep in mind a season is 9-10 months long. So he essentially went a 3rd of the season.
Messi was never a super athlete. He's not a Henry, CR7 or Mbabbe. He doesn't have the physical gifts in terms of raw speed, power or size. He relied on excellent intelligence, a wonderful touch and quickness. The quickness and his stamina has declined severely over the years. You're now left with a small guy who doesn't have the quickness to get past players at will, or the stamina to run for 90 mins. This happens a lot to smaller finesse players. Reminds me of Del Piero after he got old. Dude became useless at everything but passing or set pieces. Unless he got lucky and a simple chance came his way. If I were Messi I'd call it a day. Maybe go play for Boca Juniors or River Plate and make the Argentina fans happy. He's not all of a sudden going to turn it around at 35 or 36. It's only going to get worse and his body is only going to fail him more and more.
Calm down Ronaldo boi you’re footbal iq is low if that’s what you really think 😂
Well as he is past his physical prime, Lionel Messi definitely won't improve that part of his game. It will continue to decline further.
I would hate to see him leave the game humiliated, even a non Messi fan wouldn’t want it maybe they would lolzzz, that would be tragic and should not be the last thing we remember about him. As tennis fans we were talking about how federer just hangs on hopelessly even though the chances of him winning another grand slam is next to non existent. I think Messi might still have moments of brilliance but you are right his physicality isn’t built for longevity in this game.
Just 8 months ago he was the best player at the Copa America. In the scheme of things, that's not a long time. However, clearly his level has dropped since then. That said, to say he's done at the highest level is ridiculous. In terms of ability, he's far from done. You're judging him by his incredible standards, yet he's still up there with the best creators and dribblers around. He's no longer a game in game out matchwinner, but there's no question he can cut it still in a deeper position.
Maybe the reason Messi put his head down was he was having flashbacks of when they conquered them from 6-1 at Barcelona he Knew right there and then I made a bad move coming to PSG
It wasnt a bad move to leave Barca though
@@notfrom63rd6 no it wasn’t but it was a bad move to go to PSG
Those days are long gone. Even in his last 3 years at Barca, they won nothing. To this day, they've won nothing in years. And they won't. At least Messi has a ligue 1 title coming lol
@@Barcapower10 but where could he have gone? Who would have offered him that contract that PSG did?
He still the best player in the world without winning any trophies for three years let that sink in my boy
Gosh when PSG made those megastar moves and signed Messi, Donnaruma, my man from Liverpool, Hakimi and even Ramos they I was really excited and thought they were favourites for the UCL turns out it was real disappointment
I'm glad. Psg has never been a big club. It's where people who are old and ready to move on go. In the past few years they have really been trying to be a big club but again fail. Prime messi, with neymar would of been a scary combo up front with mbappe. These 2 old guys trying to keep up with mbappe
Psg are a 60 minute match team. They arent cut out for 90 minute matches
The 'greatest player ever' was a walking wall pass and didn't track back for the last half hour of his most important game of the season for his new club.
Lionel Messi has always had his good form at club level when at Barcelona. To fall back on even when he wasn't doing so well with Argentina national football team. Right now Lionel Messi does not even have that playing at PSG. This could have a knock on effect when he returns to playing for Argentina national football team again later in the year. As he won't have that same level of confidence that he had when playing at Barcelona.
So this game takes away from him being the greatest player ever? I’m sorry I didn’t know that’s the scale we go off of. He’s done his time. Look at his career. His numbers. Definitely a great. Chill out
What I will never understand is why are these megastars allowed not track back because when it gets tough they become passagers and you'll never win the ucl carrying passagers.
@@jcfivepoint93 biggest game on the biggest stage for his club and he just didn't even want it enough to put in the effort... yes, it turns out those are the kinds of things people remember about a player's legacy. Go watch the World Cup final where German players dribbled right next to Messi because they knew he wasn't even going to bother sticking a leg out. That stuff matters.
@@stephenmason9527 the funny thing in that example is that it’s that one game that cancels out everything he did leading up to the final. One man can only do so much. We need to stop making him seem like a God. He’s human and as such he’s not super natural. Let’s not forget PSG played the better football up until the final half hour. Let’s not forget Messi doesn’t play GK or center back(Marquinhos and Gigi choked), let’s also not forget that crucial moment that Veratti didn’t pass him the ball after the first half. Why is it when a team in which Messi is on loses we start talking about MESSI. When we clearly saw who messed it up for everyone. I’ve literally seen or read very little ok Donarumma or Marquinhos. Sure, it’s what comes with being the GOAT. But absolutely no one can claim they’ve done what he’s done as consistently as he’s done for over a decade. He’s old. The standard needs to be dropped. It’s time to blame the younger players who actually bottled this game.
Messi cant win ucl without Xavi,Iniesta,Ronldinho,Eto.Iniesta and Xavi won world cup and 2 euros with 4-5 more players from Spain team that also were in Barca team in their prime.
Okay. You say this becaus Ronaldo won the Champions League with Portsmouth right?
@@ettavictor4804 Ronnie won big trophies with far lesser teams. Not debatable.
@@douglaswalters2670 Such as Manchester United, Real Madrid and Juventus? I don't see many "far" bigger teams than those.
@@ettavictor4804 Then you do not watch games
PSG defenders should be very "close" rather than back off when v.junior took them on.. he always got time to make a pass ...which ended in 2 of real madrid goals.. the problem is defending...
A mini-funeral for messi.
I like it.
Messi has been on the decline for more than 3 years now…. the fact that he was still getting Ballon Dors is ridiculous
It was ridiculous cause he didnt even deserve those
Ok sir.. sleep peacefully
If you want to se Messi shine give him elber
Or Bolivia
@@MicHael-hn9fi gifted ballon d’ors 😂
This is a team that has always structured their chase for titles based on individualism and relying on said individual talent. When opposition teams cut them off they struggle.
Bro it’s the coach, remember in 2018 World Cup that Argentina coach played him in the same position he is playing now in psg, he has to come in midfield always to get the ball, and on top of that he had more ball interceptions then their whole defence. Let the haters Cry, the goat will rise again, just sack the coach.
Then why Poch didn't use him right ?
Messi is saving his 💯 for Argentina to win a World Cup.. no doubt that Messi will win the World Cup and all will see that Messi is the Goat Goat.. greatest ever of all time in football history
Brasil will also be in Qatar so don't go hoisting that cup just yet!
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@@bimbajeb1a112 the world know Brazil will be there but it's Messi's World Cup bro.. 3rd time lucky .. no doubt! di maria .. dybala.. meza.. lo celso.. lutaro..parades..buendia..a good keeper this time;Martinez along with a descent defense .. Argentina can't loose G
@@philipmullins2028 no joke mate.. thats why he's playing like that plus he doesn't want yo try outshine Neymar snd Mbappe in their own team.. which would be selfish because remember he was the reason Neymar left Barce
@@arsenalgunnaz6368 They said that in 2014 too. Didn't work out like that though. I hope Messi has a great World Cup but let's not let the Copa win cause us to forget the others.
PSG simply have no structure. They just signed a bunch of superstar players and expected it to work. They have an incompetent manager. PSG elimination falls solely on the defense and Donnarumma. The midfield and attack were in full control of the tie till the 60th minute. Once the Donnarumma mistake happened they backline simply crumbled. We can sit here and blame Messi because its easy, however the second and third goal literally have nothing to do with him. Neymar and Verratti as decent as they were in this match, their mistakes ultimately led them to their demise. Neymar forces a pass to Messi, and doesnt even successfully foul Modric which leads to the second goal. Verratti completely gives away the ball right after the kick off and concede. Its nonsensical to even bother blaming Messi in this regard. We Messi great? No he wasn't. Was Messi bad? No he wasn't. Messi, Verratti and Paredes had complete control of the game up to that point.
This gema is spot on right 3:09 onwards she puts everything right . Great punditry
and she also confimed Messi would have not left Barca last year :)
They should have their portion of the wages based on their performance as this applies in IT industry. Whether money is from oil exports or whatever player's has to be gratitude for the wages they get.
When did we see Messi turn a game around, once it goes downhill, he disappears. Against Roma, against Bayern, against Real Madrid. It is the other GOAT who can turn around a game all by himself. Sorry to say, but a Messi without Xavi and Iniesta, just another talented player. Nothing out of this world.
You lame sheep, Messi won 2 golden boots after Xavi and Iniesta left..The best Goalscorer whose fan you are has only 4 😭
One factor that pundits never consider: the player’s upbringing. Many of professional footballers came from some sort of money. Not many of them were kicking a ball on the street barefooted, in the barrios with all your friends. Not many of them had parents who were worried about how they would feed their child next.
Messi, Ronaldo, and a few others currently in the tops leagues continue to play because this was the sport that gave them everything. They’re more grateful for football than any other person in the world. They know what the sport means for them, for their families, and the barrios they came from. To Stevie’s point, that’s where the heart comes from.
Very real point Ronaldo and Ronaldinho for example came from nothing from the streets
Messi didnt grow up poor, he grew up middle class. Cr7 grew up dirt poor in medeira with an achoholic father
Messi played well in first half and helped defensively as well, now he can't teach goalkeeper to pass.
Messi had such games even in the past. Remember several games, where Barca was crushed by oppenents (Bayern:)) and Messi midgame gave up and stopped trying..
The only way we can tell if he actually finished if he goes back to Barca and has the same season as psg then yes or if he decides to join another team but idk y’all I think if Messi doesn’t win WC I think retirement is done for it honestly
Qatar will be his motivation
The world simply took away the thing that was keeping Messi alive 🤷🏻♂️, that being fc Barcelona
One league wonder
@@sportedittz1091 The argument in favour of Ronnie that he did it in England, Spain and Italy has aged perfectly.
Remember when the Messi fanboys were saying that he would dominate even more outside Barca? Fools 😂
What do u expect any forward, even the best, to do if the back line were messing up like the psg defenders did???there's No way for any forward to lift their heads up..
This defeat has absolutely nothing to do with management. The team is just not good defensively
It's not about age, it's about Messi not being happy since he left Barca. He's family are struggling the same way adapting to city of Paris. He's got no appetite and let's not forget he joined PSG because he was forced out
Don't be delusional, stop this and open your eyes, it's the same messi that lost to bayern, paris, roma and Liverpool was he sad then?
@@Ihaaab it's even more delusional putting those blames on him.
@@BC-mj7gj There are players that show up in big occasions and when their teams need them, and there are players that don't, you can't call messi goat for this exact reason, and stop looking for excuses, because there are none
@@Ihaaab the Bayern and PSG lose are the only ones I would say yes, but that Liverpool and Roma lose was not on him just like tonight. Defense is a big part of the game and if you watched closely you would understand that they completely collapsed all 4 of these games you mentioned.
@@jxrge9320 these are just games from the top of my head, liverpool game for example they needed some one who would score the goal for them, even if the defence was bad, if you remember 2015 barca had a bad defence but they had an amazing front 3 that allowed them to win the champions league
Messi is on decline it’s a shame I use to love seeing him play
He is use to playing with team centered around him plus they really dont really give him the ball in the final 3rd..he is not playing from his heart i garantee he is not decline he is saving himself fa World cup
@@Viking_Myoozik he's just playing lazy he's not finished yet
@@SparkSpace i agree
@@Viking_Myoozik He has declined,but he can still offer a lot,but it seems like he's not prepared to
I think he's trying not to risk risk his body too much like he used to. Just an opinion
First of all, Messi's reaction when the other team score is ALWAYS like that. Second, Neymar played better than Messi that match.
Jules is right. Kroos wasn’t fully fit coming back from injury and Ancelotti made the call to take him off early. The same exact situation with Neymar but he played the full 90. Kroos is world class champions league winner World Cup winner and he’s off. There is a clear hierarchy at PSG and Poch ain’t at the top.