@@212Elevators Are you sure that's what the blinking fire hat means? Everywhere else the blinking fire hat has been defined as a smoke detector event or other malfunction.
@@GaryCameron780 That's what I thought when I first saw the video, but listen to the way it beeps, it's not constantly beeping at the same rate. So it has to be a door malfunction. Not to mention the guy who did this video should know about this so they can get an elevator mechanic to fix it.
The reason why it kept buzzing after the door had opened was because there appeared to be an issue with the door operator. Normally with Dover fire service, the buzzer quits and the fire hat goes out once the elevator reaches the main floor and opens its doors. Notice how the door keeps jumping after it's open? Looks like it needs maintenance.
+BikeGeekMTDX Yes definately a door issue. That is not supposed to happen :P Notice how the door pulsates with the alarm. This thing should fail inspection immediately!
ya i noticed something was wrong bc i watched a fire department video and they said if the hat is flashing the smoke detector in the hoist way is activated or the door had an issue and i noticed the door was shaking when it was open
Just a few things to point out here: 1) In Phase I fire service, once the elevator reaches the first floor and doors completely open, the Firefighter hat should become completely stable and should not be blinking. The blinking hat signifies there is a door operator fault, or the smoke detector/sprinklers were triggered in the shaft, which may result in a shunt trip cutting off all power to the elevator. 2) That faulty door operator should be fixed. It looks like its having a stroke. The door should remain stable in its open position and shouldn't keep bouncing like that. Needs help. 3) When performing an elevator inspection, in Fire Service Phase II, the door bumpers and electric eye should be checked to make sure that they don't reopen the doors even if they are triggered. 4) When not in Fire Service mode, the elevator's door access key should be tested as well to make sure it's functional. 5) Probably not a default procedure, but when inspecting an elevator, the alarm bell should be tested to make sure it works. With all of these issues pointed out, I'm actually surprised to find out that the inspector actually passed the elevator inspection. Not very cool.
That comment below is spot-on. The buzzer and fire hat should shut off completely when the elevator has reached the recall floor and the door has opened. That front door operator is fricked up and needs work.
@@Jamestube8439 Could it be that the blinking fire hat means do not use... due to a variety of reasons that include a smoke detector activation or other equipment malfunction?
@@GaryCameron780 Well I figured out why it was doing that a while ago. The fire hat was blinking because the door was having issues, did you see the way it was moving after it opened? Well after the door opens at the recall floor, the buzzer is supposed to turn off and remain there with the doors open. Until Phase 1 is turned off or phase 2 is activated from the key switch inside the elevator.
@@Jamestube8439 No, the building had assigned the system to be programmed like that, considering most Phase II cabinets say "When Light Flashing, Exit Elevator".
I’ve never done fire service or independent service on an elevator before I’ve used an elevator key to access a restricted floor and a wheelchair lift elevator
Hello I am an OTIS lift Engineer you need to get your door looked at it Should't be bouncing like that I think you need a new door operator or an new door chain/cable.
Max from London Otis engineer he needs to adjust his DOL limit and that’s a DOVER or thyssenkrup elevator no chain or cable on their operator... they have belts/ Encoder/limits..
I just applied for a position in Maryland as a elevator inspector. I am surprised there starting salary is $41K. This video is helpful in better understanding the some of there job responsibilities. Thanks for the post!
Elevator inspector out of Florida just some things I had noticed didn’t see in case of fire signage at the first floor didn’t see Jamb braille at the first floor didn’t see phase 1 operations signage on the first floor didn’t see bumpers at strikes and can hear stainless clap when doors close door open limit seems to make and break at the limit of travel. Looks to me like Maintenance needs to be performed and less testing. The time it took anybody to make this video I’m sure much improvement could’ve been made to this elevator.
Shouldn't the fire hat stay on steady once the car is put in phase 2??? Blinking fire hat usually means a sprinkler or heat sensor is tripped in the motor room, or the system may shunt trip, leaving no power.
Adjust your DOL limit , take care of that first buddy so your door close sequence could commence quicker.. during fire 🔥 service phase 2 I didn’t see you try to brake the electric eye the sensor needs to be bypass during fire service phrase 1 and phase 2 In case there is smoke 💨 in front of the sensor on the door if it has an electric eye Also make sure when you on a landing away from the recall floor turn phase 2 off to see if it returns back to the recall floor this applies to newer elevators in case there is a fire 🔥 you turn phase two off and the car returns to recall floor to get the other firefighters 🧯 so they could access the car and go help the rest of the team..., Safety first stay safe buddy
I’m surprised that especially in a school, there are still mechanical safety edges, 95% of schools always replace the mechanical safety edges with more reliable and modern infrared sensors.
I hope this didn't pass. That door operator needs adjustment or replacement, and the alarm should not be going off/fire hat flashing after the door opens
Folks this is just a demonstration! I guarantee you he failed the inspection and wrote the issues in the logs. This was a generalization training the inspection process to see what it's like to inspect them. For those saying he has no clue what he's talking about, go out there and get hired to inspect them yourself. Otherwise you have no clue of what you're talking about. They have the knowledge and the know hows to do this and are trained.
Whats up with the third floor? Where is the button? How are the firefighters supposed to place a call for the third floor? This looks to be quite outdated from a fire code perspective if it even is compliant with any version!
The door, was opening and closing like crazy when it was opened, the fire hat shouldn't blink unless a smoke detector in the shaft had been activated.
It's Dover/Thyssenkrupp's way of having the fire hat blink while the buzzer pulses with it as their saying of "Exit now".
@@212Elevators Are you sure that's what the blinking fire hat means? Everywhere else the blinking fire hat has been defined as a smoke detector event or other malfunction.
@@GaryCameron780 That's what I thought when I first saw the video, but listen to the way it beeps, it's not constantly beeping at the same rate. So it has to be a door malfunction. Not to mention the guy who did this video should know about this so they can get an elevator mechanic to fix it.
The reason why it kept buzzing after the door had opened was because there appeared to be an issue with the door operator. Normally with Dover fire service, the buzzer quits and the fire hat goes out once the elevator reaches the main floor and opens its doors. Notice how the door keeps jumping after it's open? Looks like it needs maintenance.
+BikeGeekMTDX Yes definately a door issue. That is not supposed to happen :P Notice how the door pulsates with the alarm. This thing should fail inspection immediately!
On Dovers and TKEs, the light usually goes out with the buzzer. Makes no sense. It should stay lit to inform that the elevator is in fire service.
BikeGeekMTDX door disease
ya i noticed something was wrong bc i watched a fire department video and they said if the hat is flashing the smoke detector in the hoist way is activated or the door had an issue and i noticed the door was shaking when it was open
Hi maybe you can help me I'm looking for few elevator service employees
Just a few things to point out here:
1) In Phase I fire service, once the elevator reaches the first floor and doors completely open, the Firefighter hat should become completely stable and should not be blinking. The blinking hat signifies there is a door operator fault, or the smoke detector/sprinklers were triggered in the shaft, which may result in a shunt trip cutting off all power to the elevator.
2) That faulty door operator should be fixed. It looks like its having a stroke. The door should remain stable in its open position and shouldn't keep bouncing like that. Needs help.
3) When performing an elevator inspection, in Fire Service Phase II, the door bumpers and electric eye should be checked to make sure that they don't reopen the doors even if they are triggered.
4) When not in Fire Service mode, the elevator's door access key should be tested as well to make sure it's functional.
5) Probably not a default procedure, but when inspecting an elevator, the alarm bell should be tested to make sure it works.
With all of these issues pointed out, I'm actually surprised to find out that the inspector actually passed the elevator inspection. Not very cool.
Most quietest dover impulse hydraulic elevator Ive ever heard on a video
That comment below is spot-on. The buzzer and fire hat should shut off completely when the elevator has reached the recall floor and the door has opened. That front door operator is fricked up and needs work.
The fire hat was blinking, doesn't that mean a smoke detector in the shaft had been activated?
The place wanted Dover to do that so if it goes into fire service and somebody's in it, they know when to exit.
@@Jamestube8439 Could it be that the blinking fire hat means do not use... due to a variety of reasons that include a smoke detector activation or other equipment malfunction?
@@GaryCameron780 Well I figured out why it was doing that a while ago. The fire hat was blinking because the door was having issues, did you see the way it was moving after it opened? Well after the door opens at the recall floor, the buzzer is supposed to turn off and remain there with the doors open. Until Phase 1 is turned off or phase 2 is activated from the key switch inside the elevator.
@@Jamestube8439 No, the building had assigned the system to be programmed like that, considering most Phase II cabinets say "When Light Flashing, Exit Elevator".
I’ve never done fire service or independent service on an elevator before I’ve used an elevator key to access a restricted floor and a wheelchair lift elevator
Hello I am an OTIS lift Engineer you need to get your door looked at it Should't be bouncing like that I think you need a new door operator or an new door chain/cable.
Max From London u work for otis?
Max from London Otis engineer he needs to adjust his DOL limit and that’s a DOVER or thyssenkrup elevator no chain or cable on their operator... they have belts/ Encoder/limits..
I just applied for a position in Maryland as a elevator inspector. I am surprised there starting salary is $41K. This video is helpful in better understanding the some of there job responsibilities. Thanks for the post!
Good luck you found a job? Because I'm looking for elevator services employees
you can also bring the elevator back to the first floor by turning the key to off
Elevator inspector out of Florida just some things I had noticed didn’t see in case of fire signage at the first floor didn’t see Jamb braille at the first floor didn’t see phase 1 operations signage on the first floor didn’t see bumpers at strikes and can hear stainless clap when doors close door open limit seems to make and break at the limit of travel. Looks to me like Maintenance needs to be performed and less testing. The time it took anybody to make this video I’m sure much improvement could’ve been made to this elevator.
off to the second floor, thats when someone fucked off with the other key that you left on the landing.also not all lifts work in such a strange way.
Don’t forget about there’s also mode on the fire dept mode Called reset
Not a bad elevator. The first floor door needs work though. Everything else works perfectly.
You might not have about the 2nd floor
That's really cool
Could you tell me to hold the button to control the door one more time? I think I may forget how to do it.
The front door is rocking off the open limit. Simple mechanical adjustment of the door is needed. Has to be done by authorized elevator technician.
Fire a call... That means I just made that up 😂
There already may have been need of a work order. That door sounded bad.
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For most elevators, If the helmet is flashing like that it means there has been a fire alarm activation in the shaft and you cannot ride that elevator
Shouldn't the fire hat stay on steady once the car is put in phase 2???
Blinking fire hat usually means a sprinkler or heat sensor is tripped in the motor room, or the system may shunt trip, leaving no power.
Nope. You can see that door disease when the door is fully opened. Its most likely causing the fire hat to blink.
Adjust your DOL limit , take care of that first buddy so your door close sequence could commence quicker..
during fire 🔥 service phase 2 I didn’t see you try to brake the electric eye the sensor needs to be bypass during fire service phrase 1 and phase 2 In case there is smoke 💨 in front of the sensor on the door if it has an electric eye
Also make sure when you on a landing away from the recall floor turn phase 2 off to see if it returns back to the recall floor this applies to newer elevators in case there is a fire 🔥 you turn phase two off and the car returns to recall floor to get the other firefighters 🧯 so they could access the car and go help the rest of the team...,
Safety first stay safe buddy
I am surprised he didn't mention the jittering door, what would cause that?
probably a screwed up door operator
Firehat flashing in Fire Service Phase I?
This elevator should fail inspection immediately!
No and I like that elevator
Why?
@@crazypilot9957 It has door disease. The door bugs out a bit when opened.
@@indotravelguy2004 It's rocking off the open limit. Mechanical adjustment of the door is needed.
Yeah that door operator is definitely having problems, they need to get it fixed.
Nice old Dover Elevator. Please get rid of that mechanical safety edge and sell the customer a new infrared door detector!
I’m surprised that especially in a school, there are still mechanical safety edges, 95% of schools always replace the mechanical safety edges with more reliable and modern infrared sensors.
1:27 Ouch your fingers |:
that is so painful to hear:|
I hope this didn't pass. That door operator needs adjustment or replacement, and the alarm should not be going off/fire hat flashing after the door opens
Folks this is just a demonstration! I guarantee you he failed the inspection and wrote the issues in the logs. This was a generalization training the inspection process to see what it's like to inspect them. For those saying he has no clue what he's talking about, go out there and get hired to inspect them yourself. Otherwise you have no clue of what you're talking about. They have the knowledge and the know hows to do this and are trained.
Is this in Fort Wayne IN by any chance?
Pete Schoon Yes it is Fort Wayne Schools
Why will it flashes?
OOO it's a Dover!
So how will the fire dept use it if the shaft catches fire? Then they are stuck
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Adjust door open limit and or stop the mechanical bind with the doors . The guy has no idea how the elevator is supposed to operate .
you put the elevator in fire service every month
Whats up with the third floor? Where is the button? How are the firefighters supposed to place a call for the third floor? This looks to be quite outdated from a fire code perspective if it even is compliant with any version!
That is probably used to fill up a gap.
That’s actually says the elevator number indication in this building. In this case, this is elevator #3 so there are other elevators in this building.
Side so where is my 401k and checks my I'd was lost....
That is a fireFighter button
Is a Dover elevator
Have you been to a school named O.L.O.L
Dover
Impulse.
The elevator is shaking.
this panel is slimier to a thyssenkrupp panel
Except, It’s Dover Impulse.
Me too
ThyssenKrupp bought DOVER Elevators in 1999 & they continued to manufacture those Impulse panel until 2005.
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Wow, are you kidding me! And tell school dude you were not trained on that.