Can You Stop Being Gay? | Middle Ground

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
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    0:00 intro
    0:36 You're queer even if you suppress your homosexual desires
    7:52 There is a scientific basis behind being LGBTQ
    13:44 Conversion therapy has positive outcomes
    20:06 A healthy family requires a male and female role model
    20:20 The Pride Movement is negatively affecting younger generations
    29:06 LGBTQ people won't go to heaven
    35:18 It's healthy to experiment with sexuality
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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  Před 6 měsíci +496

    Unreleased prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/3QNhD5F “A healthy family requires a male and female role model.”

    • @thebanj0271
      @thebanj0271 Před 6 měsíci +27

      ☪✝✡ > 🏳‍🌈⚛

    • @ethandollarhide7943
      @ethandollarhide7943 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Families need parents. Does not matter what gender they are. If you think otherwise, then you don't belong in modern society.

    • @homosexualbiologicalmaleexit
      @homosexualbiologicalmaleexit Před 6 měsíci +13

      ban chastity castration please 🥺🥺🥺

    • @Utsav-ru6mf
      @Utsav-ru6mf Před 6 měsíci

      kid yall are in delusion and the sience symbol is way bigger than your rapist gods and prophets@@thebanj0271

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 Před 6 měsíci +85

      Why was everything framed from christianity? Bizarre

  • @jessicapogson2645
    @jessicapogson2645 Před 6 měsíci +27818

    saying you don’t believe in intersex people to an intersex person is craaazy

    • @Dysgenic_
      @Dysgenic_ Před 6 měsíci +1241

      It‘s a genetic defect not the norm. Most people have 10 fingers, very few have 11. But to say that humans have 10 or 11 fingers is not correct

    • @baniz4447
      @baniz4447 Před 6 měsíci +2295

      ​@@Dysgenic_yeah but humans can have 11 or 12 fingers and be intersex and there's nothing wrong with that.

    • @simonO712
      @simonO712 Před 6 měsíci +3080

      ​@@Dysgenic_So? Something being rare doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    • @Dysgenic_
      @Dysgenic_ Před 6 měsíci

      @@baniz4447 There is. It is a sign of developmental instability affecting the whole genome, most likely also the brain.

    • @tryx-i1426
      @tryx-i1426 Před 6 měsíci +1508

      @@Dysgenic_ Certain eye colors are rare, does that make peopel with that eye color, not exist?

  • @steel_456
    @steel_456 Před 4 měsíci +4109

    Not me actively debating with them in my room😭😂

  • @thadlincolnii7398
    @thadlincolnii7398 Před měsícem +2610

    All of the exLgbt admitted they still have the desire. They just dont act on it. Which means thier orientation did not change.

    • @oluwatoniodetayo3141
      @oluwatoniodetayo3141 Před měsícem +116

      Are all desires natural. Should they be acted on?

    • @historysyourbestfriend5500
      @historysyourbestfriend5500 Před měsícem +62

      @@oluwatoniodetayo3141what do you suppose is reason for why homosexuality shouldn’t be something a person can act on then?

    • @epicgamer5113
      @epicgamer5113 Před měsícem +25

      Are you sure about that? 18:04

    • @oluwatoniodetayo3141
      @oluwatoniodetayo3141 Před měsícem +19

      @@historysyourbestfriend5500
      One thing to look out for is the fruits of the desire. Evaluate yourself when you abstain.
      Thinking about it while not acting on it, is not abstaining. That's a tough one to learn.

    • @historysyourbestfriend5500
      @historysyourbestfriend5500 Před měsícem +10

      @@oluwatoniodetayo3141 how does that answer my question…

  • @michaellampkin5585
    @michaellampkin5585 Před měsícem +1006

    That boy is fighting his demons and y’all know who I’m talking about

    • @RheSiobhan
      @RheSiobhan Před měsícem +89

      😂 This is hilarious to me, because I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm interested to see how he is in 20 years

    • @thejamman-qz2ki
      @thejamman-qz2ki Před měsícem

      Who?

    • @quuaackyy
      @quuaackyy Před 28 dny +1

      yeah...

    • @laincake
      @laincake Před 27 dny +17

      @@thejamman-qz2kiguy in gray tank top i believe

    • @yarioi
      @yarioi Před 23 dny

      He is making a fool out of himself, even the Christian’s are like pls stfu

  • @LanaKennedy121
    @LanaKennedy121 Před 6 měsíci +18380

    This turned out to be way more religious than I was ready for.

    • @user-ks7yk1hv9q
      @user-ks7yk1hv9q Před 6 měsíci +1367

      I feel like religion holds a big part in this specific conversation.

    • @abyss1138
      @abyss1138 Před 6 měsíci +1590

      It’s one of the main reasons why there are “ex-LGBT” people. They “prayed the gay away” 😂

    • @MultiStarchick
      @MultiStarchick Před 6 měsíci +503

      I do feel like it had to be a religious conversation but it didn't have to be a mono religious conversation. Christianity isn't the only religion that forbids same sex behaviours and it would have been nice to see them represented.

    • @MsDudette21
      @MsDudette21 Před 6 měsíci

      @@abyss1138 it's the only reason. youll never hear about gay people becoming straight through any other means. cuz it doesnt happen

    • @jameltanderson
      @jameltanderson Před 6 měsíci +105

      I can’t stand it

  • @9TheMiddleMan9
    @9TheMiddleMan9 Před 6 měsíci +17721

    We're 30 seconds in and we're talking about Gay earthquakes... this gon be gud...

    • @MarkVank
      @MarkVank Před 6 měsíci +890

      Thought you were joking, not even gonna watch the vid💀💀

    • @michaelc.5809
      @michaelc.5809 Před 6 měsíci +582

      I was thrown for a loop with that intro 😭

    • @itsnatemate7697
      @itsnatemate7697 Před 6 měsíci +774

      I KNEW gays had super powers!!

    • @rollitupmars
      @rollitupmars Před 6 měsíci +446

      He lost me because wtf is he talking about

    • @itsnatemate7697
      @itsnatemate7697 Před 6 měsíci +430

      @@rollitupmarsHe doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He even said “XX that is male” and someone had to correct him and say “no that’s female” 😂

  • @marrr2563
    @marrr2563 Před měsícem +1644

    ngl, as a straight religious person (muslim), this was still traumatizing, like bro literally looked at her and announced that he doesn't believe in intersex people.

    • @khaioberlin
      @khaioberlin Před měsícem +15

      literally???

    • @ParisPanteli-et1uq
      @ParisPanteli-et1uq Před měsícem +134

      ok but please tell me tho that i'm not the olnly that got mad that at they they used religion to justify their hate

    • @parham1023
      @parham1023 Před měsícem

      ​@ParisPanteli-et1uq religion is technically hate. Not by text, but by act.
      Christians love to hate. Not all of them, of course.

    • @telespectre9764
      @telespectre9764 Před měsícem +4

      yes bro is mad. thanks for your comment my friend.

    • @clairechen3524
      @clairechen3524 Před měsícem +5

      thats what be belives tho

  • @CityBoiATX
    @CityBoiATX Před měsícem +966

    The act of sex is a choice, Sexuality isn’t a choice, your attracted to who you’re attracted to.

    • @LuaLaustak
      @LuaLaustak Před měsícem +6

      Is it ok for someone to date the same sex as long as they don’t have sex?

    • @CityBoiATX
      @CityBoiATX Před měsícem +29

      @@LuaLaustak idc. Why, how or who. Why do you?

    • @LuaLaustak
      @LuaLaustak Před měsícem +10

      @@CityBoiATX no im asking for myself lol hahah Id never judge anyone for what they wanna do in bed im just fourteen and since seven I’ve liked girls and only girls as a girl so I’ve always hated myself for it and stuff so i just wanted to know dw

    • @CityBoiATX
      @CityBoiATX Před měsícem +18

      @@LuaLaustak if you are asking me for yourself then you’re asking the wrong person. Who you decide to love is none of my concern.

    • @littleflor2975
      @littleflor2975 Před měsícem +9

      What about adults who are sexually attracted to children? What's going on there then?

  • @gbizdiaz3673
    @gbizdiaz3673 Před měsícem +3947

    Not my gay thoughts shifting the tectonic plates

  • @atmosphericentry0
    @atmosphericentry0 Před 6 měsíci +11332

    A gay person simply existing being the cause of earthquakes and global pandemics is so outlandishly hilarious that only a religious person could come up with.

    • @thebanj0271
      @thebanj0271 Před 6 měsíci +341

      Not as hilarious as thinking something came from nothing

    • @tgr5312
      @tgr5312 Před 6 měsíci

      Not really I've heard a lot of liberals come up with way worse stuff. From magic rocks to star formations.

    • @Junior-zf7yy
      @Junior-zf7yy Před 6 měsíci +695

      @@thebanj0271I’m wondering who ever claimed something came from nothing. Also wondering why you think a magical papa just decided to create the world for no reason. Why couldn’t it be a magical all knowing giant rat?

    • @rollitupmars
      @rollitupmars Před 6 měsíci +523

      @@ville__How? Is being straight a choice?? Why would I chose to be LBGTQ+ with all of the hate and constant discrimination that we face as a community?

    • @oznerolnavi3772
      @oznerolnavi3772 Před 6 měsíci +150

      @@thebanj0271bro could lose an argument against himself

  • @thesituati0n699
    @thesituati0n699 Před měsícem +578

    Abigail is my entire mood during this.

  • @legorahma
    @legorahma Před 21 dnem +158

    ironically, abigail truly has the patience of a saint.

    • @Scarface_445
      @Scarface_445 Před 9 dny +5

      To an extent. She kept rolling her eyes.
      But she handled it really well given a lot of the things that were said!

    • @RealAnimeBadGuy
      @RealAnimeBadGuy Před 4 dny +3

      For real she was truly being disrespected and it was pretty disgusting

  • @aflameinthevoid8047
    @aflameinthevoid8047 Před 6 měsíci +10926

    This ended up being an hourlong Christian theological discussion. I feel badly for Abby as the only non-Christian panelist

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz Před 6 měsíci +1219

      It was ROUGH lmao

    • @mf8125
      @mf8125 Před 6 měsíci +813

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillzI would've had to say, can we stop making this about Christianity?! Lol

    • @rachelt4792
      @rachelt4792 Před 6 měsíci +413

      Yeah, because that’s the only reason people are against the LGBT+ community. Which is why including religious people from the LGBT+ community is perfect for this conversation.

    • @lailaandu3165
      @lailaandu3165 Před 6 měsíci +46

      wasnt that the point of the episode?

    • @kaylanicole5126
      @kaylanicole5126 Před 6 měsíci +189

      @@rachelt4792I mean it’s not the only reason but definitely the primary one. Still if I was that girl I would’ve been like can we not make everything about Christianity because you can’t make everything about something that not everyone follows. There’s nothing confirmed about it so to make everything you do about it is kinda scary to be honest

  • @rinas6550
    @rinas6550 Před 6 měsíci +8629

    Telling Abigail that you disregard her existence is INSANE 😂

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz Před 6 měsíci +804

      My bombastic side eye every time he spoke 😂

    • @Superbatmanbro
      @Superbatmanbro Před 6 měsíci +15

      ​@@AbigailBeverlyHillz😅😅

    • @suoeex
      @suoeex Před 6 měsíci +397

      @@ville__ so your saying you like men but your choosing to like women?

    • @rinas6550
      @rinas6550 Před 6 měsíci +182

      @@ville__she’s not even gay?……

    • @MaeveBowral
      @MaeveBowral Před 6 měsíci +122

      @@ville__ Lol we loved our choice...... waste your negative energy elsewhere🤦🏾‍♀🤦🏾‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀

  • @boonaw
    @boonaw Před měsícem +487

    “XX that is male” said so confidently 😭 like bro doesn’t know basic biology

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. Před měsícem +23

      he said it as a question though because he didn't know 😭

    • @jphansen5299
      @jphansen5299 Před měsícem +7

      I did a double take there. It was definitely a question he was making sure he was on the same page

    • @SingersHeart89
      @SingersHeart89 Před měsícem +1

      And you don't have basic comprehension skills.

    • @lailaeman01
      @lailaeman01 Před měsícem +3

      don't be dense he was asking her to verify. use your brain.

    • @boonaw
      @boonaw Před měsícem +10

      @@lailaeman01 No he didn't, you're trying to change the narrative, he was corrected immediately after

  • @chloetavares8652
    @chloetavares8652 Před měsícem +132

    Rashad is fighting his desires so hard, those thoughts are the forefront of his head, even the therapist called out his situation.

    • @mattburton9250
      @mattburton9250 Před 20 dny +17

      I thought the same exact thing!! He seems so unhappy and discontent.

    • @RB-.-
      @RB-.- Před 18 dny +17

      @@mattburton9250 really? he seemed the most enlightened and intelligent out of the group. it takes strength to break free from the woke cult

    • @mattburton9250
      @mattburton9250 Před 18 dny +34

      @@RB-.- Enlightened and Intelligent? He didn’t listen to a single thing anyone else said. Seemed quite the opposite, brainwashed and closed-minded.

    • @edmundsishange3608
      @edmundsishange3608 Před 17 dny +16

      @mattburton9250 he definitely needs help, he's in denial

  • @redchan2571
    @redchan2571 Před 6 měsíci +8770

    You can have a productive discussion with people that have different opinions, but you cannot have a productive discussion with people who believe in a different set of facts.

    • @drakenhwa
      @drakenhwa Před 6 měsíci +404

      so true omg you put that concept into words so well 😭

    • @cherrysoda2219
      @cherrysoda2219 Před 6 měsíci +464

      But they aren’t discussing facts, they are discussing beliefs. Even if they were discussing differing sets of facts it can still lead to a productive debate. People have debates all the time on different sets of facts, such as democrats and republicans. They both go off of different facts which support their viewpoints, although yes subjective opinions intertwine with their view points, but at the end of the day being bias is inherently apart of being human.

    • @naysha323
      @naysha323 Před 6 měsíci +18

      THIS!!

    • @naysha323
      @naysha323 Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@cherrysoda2219 💀

    • @cherrysoda2219
      @cherrysoda2219 Před 6 měsíci +56

      Whether a debate revolves around opinions or differing facts it is very much possible to have a productive debate either way, people have debates like this all the time lol….

  • @evangelinemonday
    @evangelinemonday Před 5 měsíci +2853

    The "XX that is male" and the " no that's female" part got me LMAO 😅😅😅😅😅

    • @ruefriend
      @ruefriend Před 4 měsíci +252

      SAMEEE like bro came in here not knowing the only fact I retained from freshman year biology 😭

    • @hooman9554
      @hooman9554 Před 4 měsíci +107

      me too bro 💀 and he sounded so confident about it too like it was some gotcha moment

    • @acr8615
      @acr8615 Před 4 měsíci +21

      Only males have the Y Chromosome, not females.

    • @Lavasquid7800
      @Lavasquid7800 Před 4 měsíci +38

      XY is male and XX is female

    • @hooman9554
      @hooman9554 Před 4 měsíci +34

      it's around 11:14 if anyone wants the timestamp btw

  • @rudeart
    @rudeart Před 15 dny +139

    rashad is rlly fighting demons like you can hear it in his voice😂😂😂

    • @SubtitledArabicSongs
      @SubtitledArabicSongs Před 8 dny

      I think the guy is straight, a Christian apologist. Does not fit the profile of cross dresser and "transgender", seems not to understand homosexuality.

  • @Gann06
    @Gann06 Před 26 dny +270

    As an European I am always blown away with Americans always bringing religion into all possible topics. If we had this debate in Europe religion comments would be 5% of the whole conversation. We have so many things to debate

    • @slippery_cow
      @slippery_cow Před 17 dny +1

      yeah same

    • @pinksnake8001
      @pinksnake8001 Před 14 dny +1

      yeah same

    • @chupacabraazul6669
      @chupacabraazul6669 Před 13 dny +16

      Religion is a huge part of life to many people. What planet do you live on?

    • @slippery_cow
      @slippery_cow Před 13 dny +37

      @@chupacabraazul6669 i live in germany and there are many religious people but they don‘t use their religion to explain arguments during a conversation that much

    • @masonridgewell8063
      @masonridgewell8063 Před 13 dny

      @@slippery_cow German is becoming a shithole

  • @Random-sk6hm
    @Random-sk6hm Před 5 měsíci +3446

    As a gay person I can confirm we create earthquakes and global pandemics for fun

    • @niculaelaurentiu1201
      @niculaelaurentiu1201 Před 5 měsíci +59

      😂

    • @howardphung281
      @howardphung281 Před 5 měsíci +170

      They are scared of your power.

    • @cjisvegan
      @cjisvegan Před 5 měsíci +173

      Was hoping I'd find this comment lol. Sorry for all the hurricanes and tornados, it was just me being trans

    • @karabosebowa9836
      @karabosebowa9836 Před 5 měsíci +21

      Girl…😂😂😂😂

    • @jayleneatmon26
      @jayleneatmon26 Před 5 měsíci +16

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @anonymous-pe5dz
    @anonymous-pe5dz Před 6 měsíci +6168

    “He’s given me strength to overcome my desires of falling into homosexuality again” so he’s basically admitting that you can’t chose not to be gay 😭

    • @loveisblue5297
      @loveisblue5297 Před 6 měsíci +418

      The way this is even up for debate..

    • @BlueberrySummertime
      @BlueberrySummertime Před 6 měsíci +61

      It’s ALL up for debate

    • @TinaMay-rr6xi
      @TinaMay-rr6xi Před 6 měsíci +222

      He is saying you can choose not to act on it

    • @ethandollarhide7943
      @ethandollarhide7943 Před 6 měsíci +347

      @@TinaMay-rr6xi He's also basically admitting that you can choose to not act on Heterosexuality, but nobody wants to talk about that because Heterosexuality is the " Norm" and you can't discriminate against the " Norm"

    • @awoooga5857
      @awoooga5857 Před 6 měsíci +377

      ​@@ville__acting on it is a choice yes, but being gay isn't and that's the point. These people are forcing themselves to not be gay and telling other people that they should be like them 2.

  • @sevareilly
    @sevareilly Před měsícem +91

    This is just an organized and well-videotaped version of all of our Thanksgiving family bickering.

  • @britt905
    @britt905 Před měsícem +374

    I feel badly that the ex-gay people have found themselves in environments where they feel so ashamed of the way they love.

    • @lvsquu0676
      @lvsquu0676 Před měsícem +41

      they seem so brainwashed lmfao😭

    • @OnGuardYT
      @OnGuardYT Před měsícem

      @@lvsquu0676 Ex gay/Anti gay people see you as brainwashed and make a disgusting amount of fun out of the LGBT. The same goes for the other side.
      There is no difference between the two, both are brainwashed.. by politicians, it's all just a distraction to the actual problems, wake up.

    • @RB-.-
      @RB-.- Před 18 dny

      @@lvsquu0676 The complete opposite actually. LGBT people are formed through brainwashing most of the time and fall into that trap. The people like us that are aware of whats real and strong enough to break free from that conditioning are brave.

    • @ceq9365
      @ceq9365 Před 17 dny +1

      No they just don’t wanna get infected with HIV

    • @chupacabraazul6669
      @chupacabraazul6669 Před 13 dny

      And rightfully so.

  • @Mesharae
    @Mesharae Před 5 měsíci +7067

    I felt so heartbroken for Abigail because how dare rashad try to tell her that her LITERAL existence isn’t real?! She is literally sitting there telling you she was BORN intersex. Like wtf

    • @Spyros_SP
      @Spyros_SP Před 5 měsíci

      There's no such thing as intersex, she is a female, she has XX chromosomes, and she has genital deformities.

    • @tibenpolo
      @tibenpolo Před 5 měsíci +294

      @@IAmTheTruth139ignorance is real

    • @jesseshepherd5522
      @jesseshepherd5522 Před 5 měsíci

      The word truth is overused and in this case incorrectly used.
      YouAreTheLiar666@@IAmTheTruth139

    • @jhedjoardumago7691
      @jhedjoardumago7691 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Abigail has an XX chromosome with a defect. So she is female, with a defect. Just like any person who had a genetic defect. There is no person who is both XX and XY.

    • @florjean965
      @florjean965 Před 5 měsíci +71

      @@IAmTheTruth139 Clearly you're not educated whatsoever and posted some myopic comment.

  • @joshualeroy8
    @joshualeroy8 Před 3 měsíci +3148

    Would have loved a non religious conversation about this

    • @Mac-ff3ll
      @Mac-ff3ll Před 3 měsíci +276

      You can only be an ex gay if you’re religious…

    • @higuchistan
      @higuchistan Před 3 měsíci +68

      No?? I have an ex gay atheist friend

    • @samurai_zee4850
      @samurai_zee4850 Před 3 měsíci +84

      It’s possible, but a lot of ex-lgbtq in general have religious reasons or healing journey reasons 🤷🏾‍♀️ it’s not an issue to talk about it. It’s not like they’re forcing them to do something they don’t want to do. They are just sharing THEIR experiences. ❤

    • @riumainu2768
      @riumainu2768 Před 3 měsíci +10

      ​@@Mac-ff3llirrational. Likes change. Can happen.

    • @GG-tk8gt
      @GG-tk8gt Před 3 měsíci +46

      ​@@Mac-ff3llI don't think that's true. You can be ex-gay due to societies' pressures and other environmental factors. Being gay was a crime in the Soviet Union even though the Soviet Union encouraged atheism for a great majority of its population.

  • @odinkotero1509
    @odinkotero1509 Před měsícem +86

    Of course people are allowed to repress their desires, but I would never let a loved one date an "ex" LGBT person. You're only setting yourself up for heartbreak if you date a gay person repressing their feelings.

    • @ellageo2057
      @ellageo2057 Před 6 dny

      100%

    • @bruisedstar
      @bruisedstar Před 5 dny +3

      oh yes, the amount of times i've heard about women finding on their husbands were cheating on them with men..

  • @ajnosz120
    @ajnosz120 Před 5 dny +12

    In my opinion, these people were all "too religious" for this episode.

    • @jesusornothing3231
      @jesusornothing3231 Před 3 dny +2

      I can just as well say these people are “too sinful” Works both ways 😂

  • @spaghettibird5135
    @spaghettibird5135 Před 5 měsíci +3474

    So they’re still gay, they just don’t act on it anymore. So they’re just celibate. How does that make them not gay anymore?

    • @a.b.2405
      @a.b.2405 Před 5 měsíci +468

      Exactly what I was thinking! They’re still gay!

    • @michaelplauche9901
      @michaelplauche9901 Před 5 měsíci +86

      You can change your feelings. That’s what lgbtq is, personal feelings. They will have Hetero marriages in the future and will be fulfilling god’s plan

    • @ashtonb7931
      @ashtonb7931 Před 5 měsíci +453

      @@michaelplauche9901lgbtq is something you cannot change…😭😭😭 they can believe they’re changed if they’d like, but they’re still gay and they need to accept that and understand it’s okay.

    • @michaelplauche9901
      @michaelplauche9901 Před 5 měsíci

      @@ashtonb7931 homosexuality isn’t genetics, it’s a feeling. You can change your feelings

    • @mayasanders1046
      @mayasanders1046 Před 5 měsíci +32

      ​@@ashtonb7931Right?!

  • @peepeepro
    @peepeepro Před 4 měsíci +2264

    Jubilee is one of the only shows that make me genuinely start tweaking

    • @seekerandthinker
      @seekerandthinker Před 3 měsíci +121

      It is midnight here and I thought you say "Jubilee is one of the only shows that make me genuinely start twerking" 😭😭😭

    • @ILoveCats69875
      @ILoveCats69875 Před 3 měsíci +84

      Fr bro some of these ppls beliefs are sooo out there, like how pride festivals start earthquakes 😭

    • @seekerandthinker
      @seekerandthinker Před 3 měsíci

      @@ILoveCats69875 if gay sex really cause earthquake, a country should be proud of it, they will be the world's deadliest weapon. Just give them a mission, vacation to the enemy nation, and have the WILDEST sex ever happen in human history at the target location.

    • @Feniel_
      @Feniel_ Před 3 měsíci +6

      No fr bruh 😭

    • @nunii.
      @nunii. Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@ILoveCats69875 this just goes to show you how lost ppl are

  • @haobinsfavoritechild
    @haobinsfavoritechild Před 8 dny +18

    i sometimes forget how scary religious fanaticism can be, like damn…

    • @Hellokitty_391
      @Hellokitty_391 Před 12 hodinami

      Ikr 👩‍🦽

    • @justleslie3897
      @justleslie3897 Před 33 minutami

      Catholic here🙋🏻‍♀️ and it makes me so sad to hear that im so sorry you feel that way but may I ask why ?

  • @danteh4947
    @danteh4947 Před měsícem +130

    It’s giving cult mind thinking from the ex side. The way the ex side stood firm in their beliefs and in the same sentences diminished the other side’s Christianity is why I don’t like being around religious people.

  • @Yahmuddacapiche
    @Yahmuddacapiche Před 5 měsíci +7646

    I wish jubilee would do cat people vs. dog people. I think they think it isn’t serious enough but I think it would be their most popular video

  • @snailslime7
    @snailslime7 Před 3 měsíci +3396

    It’s honestly so wild to say that the first place you ever truly felt accepted was at a pride event, to then immediately say they cause earthquakes 💀

    • @helloxonsfan
      @helloxonsfan Před 3 měsíci +1

      A Gay earthquake sounds pretty cool...!!! They're measured by degrees of twerking...!!! (LOL) 🤣

    • @ChemistTea
      @ChemistTea Před 3 měsíci +122

      That's normal in religious people. Some Christians perceive that as logical.

    • @jonathanpagan4465
      @jonathanpagan4465 Před 3 měsíci +38

      According to the Bible sin in general causes calamities. Just read revelation, we are in for a rude awakening, I’m guessing soon rather than later

    • @snailslime7
      @snailslime7 Před 3 měsíci +37

      @@ChemistTea I’m aware, it seems the opposite of logical to me. I would never want to live with that mindset. It sounds exhausting

    • @djk5v
      @djk5v Před 3 měsíci +16

      The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

  • @jakke1975
    @jakke1975 Před měsícem +332

    Dang, a therapist for people with autism who believes sexuality can be changed?
    That's just sad! For her patients sake, I can only hope that she doesn't have a lot of clients.

    • @Random_User-zu1mp
      @Random_User-zu1mp Před měsícem +18

      As long as her beliefs don´t effect the quality of her therapy, she can have as many clients as she wants because currently autistic people need all the help they can. So many autistic people aren´t even diagnosed, we need more people who have at least some type of knowledge in that field. Let´s just hope that she never has an LGBTQ-autistic client and chooses to talk to her about, because I don´t know how she´s going to handle that. Hopefully not conversion therapy

    • @jakke1975
      @jakke1975 Před měsícem +13

      @@Random_User-zu1mp ah, there you go, people with some knowledge in the field. Sexuality is a big thing with autism, going from issues with partner to sexuality, gender issues and so on. Someone who fails in this field can really screw someone up for life.

    • @ZH1413
      @ZH1413 Před 18 dny +2

      therapist is what saved life I completely disagree

    • @Negro_bombona
      @Negro_bombona Před 12 dny

      Also, if people with narcissism can be changed then homosexuality can be as well, it all comes from the brain, it all ends with it

  • @lorettahawkins1645
    @lorettahawkins1645 Před měsícem +74

    The black guy in the grey shirt is someone I feel is still confused about who he really is. you can't change your sexuality, you can only oppress it.

    • @elitebomber3982
      @elitebomber3982 Před 9 dny

      correcttt

    • @skrunklyOwO
      @skrunklyOwO Před 6 dny +2

      @@elitebomber3982 wrong. I am proof of it that it is possible.

    • @elitebomber3982
      @elitebomber3982 Před 6 dny +2

      @@skrunklyOwO u r the guy in the vid then ❤️ just like him suppressing it

  • @DarkAngel2512
    @DarkAngel2512 Před 5 měsíci +2359

    "Being gay causes earthquakes". 😂 Americans are a diff breed.

    • @fresh-eggs
      @fresh-eggs Před 5 měsíci +28

      Haha so true.

    • @MaidenMacabre
      @MaidenMacabre Před 5 měsíci +59

      That SENT me

    • @ThreeLittleBirdsssss
      @ThreeLittleBirdsssss Před 5 měsíci +90

      The way they all shook their head in aggreement took me tf out

    • @koalasaw
      @koalasaw Před 5 měsíci +144

      This hurt me as a geologist lol. Im not against religion but I cant stand religious people who dismiss thousands of years of science.

    • @IAmTheTruth139
      @IAmTheTruth139 Před 5 měsíci

      God’s wrath is real, and western society will turn out to be like Sodom and Gomorrah unless something is done to combat lgbt evil degeneracy.

  • @spencedbuddy6343
    @spencedbuddy6343 Před 6 měsíci +443

    "I don't see any intersex" setting next to an intersex person. 10/10

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz Před 6 měsíci +95

      Helen Keller’s spirit possessed Rashad every time I spoke…because he became blind and deaf every time I spoke.

    • @Im-Ekko
      @Im-Ekko Před 6 měsíci +8

      ​@@AbigailBeverlyHillz😂😂

    • @Kingofthenet2
      @Kingofthenet2 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillz🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @unpopularopinionpodcast24
      @unpopularopinionpodcast24 Před 6 měsíci +3

      How do we really know? Because she said it? I am probably wrong but I think Abby is a transwoman cosplaying

    • @unpopularopinionpodcast24
      @unpopularopinionpodcast24 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillzyou are a hypocrite. You rolled your eyes and discredited anything he said religious.

  • @jaimelancaster826
    @jaimelancaster826 Před měsícem +63

    I’m so happy to hear from someone that is intersex. People like her have been around for ages, yet we don’t really discuss them. Sending love and light to them.🫶🏽

    • @ejsana5623
      @ejsana5623 Před dnem

      Cuz intersex ppl are super rare, an exception to the rule…. A shame she still struggling to come to grips with her reality n ppl around her failing her

  • @woyblank751
    @woyblank751 Před měsícem +20

    Those hugs in the end.... and coming to a middle ground. I learned a lot about humanity watching this video. Amazing work, Jubilee...

  • @natep6729
    @natep6729 Před 6 měsíci +3082

    Ex-LGBTQIA+ people took the phrase "delulu is the solulu" quite literally😂

  • @michealdotcom
    @michealdotcom Před 6 měsíci +4920

    It is insane how this debate turned into a Christian centered discussion instead of a LGBTQIA+ middle ground in the matter of the first 30 seconds. Props to Abigail for staying strong & still respecting every panelist while being disregarded for her identity.

    • @OrganicOrc
      @OrganicOrc Před 6 měsíci +294

      Yeah, I really wish they'd make sure to have at least a few non-religious people. Abigail clearly being the only person not rooted in religion had her automatically backed into a corner.

    • @RonLarhz
      @RonLarhz Před 6 měsíci +6

      ikr.

    • @cmac7547
      @cmac7547 Před 6 měsíci

      I think it's hard to find people who are Anti-LGBT and it has nothing to do with religion
      And I think the only way for there to be common ground was to have religious lgbtq that way they could have a meeting point
      It would honestly be the only way those Anti-LGBTQ folk would be able to have a leg to stand on
      The moment they took Christianity out it would've been a total bashing and I'm pretty sure those anti-LGBTQ folk would've immediately felt disrepect and and attacked and then they would play victim and it would look bad overall

    • @laura8512
      @laura8512 Před 6 měsíci +59

      The conversation was about ex-gay and ex-lgbt versus LGBTQ and the explanation of being “ex” was because of their faith not on your own. So that is why it was surrounded by biblical statements.

    • @beautifully_scarred_lea
      @beautifully_scarred_lea Před 6 měsíci +19

      Because it's what that community rebels against. They rebel against religion and how you are supposed to live. That's just not inclusive to Christianity. It's all religions that have say homosexuality is a sin

  • @boedujoux1854
    @boedujoux1854 Před měsícem +17

    The “let’s go girl” had me crying 😂😂

  • @vinney6938
    @vinney6938 Před měsícem +29

    Rocking the bed too hard apparently. Sorry for the earthquakes

  • @vgycgy
    @vgycgy Před 6 měsíci +2947

    Abigail’s voice is SOOOO important in this conversation, it’s like she said we HARDLY ever hear from intersex ppl.

    • @yosaifgrossman2476
      @yosaifgrossman2476 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I can't tell if she was pro LGBT or not

    • @KotoneShiomi333
      @KotoneShiomi333 Před 5 měsíci +12

      @@yosaifgrossman2476 wdym

    • @jinni6271
      @jinni6271 Před 5 měsíci +43

      I would have liked to see an asexual person in this discussion

    • @QuonwithaO
      @QuonwithaO Před 5 měsíci +39

      Not really transgenderism as we know it today and intersexuality are not the same and aren't related in any way so her experience really adds nothing to this conversation

    • @joegame4576
      @joegame4576 Před 5 měsíci +10

      but why is it important though? what important distinction does intersex bring to this discussion?

  • @success3443
    @success3443 Před 6 měsíci +3677

    Jubilee always be coming up with the wildest of topics

    • @thebanj0271
      @thebanj0271 Před 6 měsíci +39

      ☪✝✡ > 🏳‍🌈⚛

    • @ShadowIsABaby
      @ShadowIsABaby Před 6 měsíci

      @@ville__It's really not. These people are either closeted again or were never gay to begin with.

    • @prodELOKX
      @prodELOKX Před 6 měsíci +13

      @@ville__only if ur a bisexual

    • @ottoask9151
      @ottoask9151 Před 6 měsíci +59

      @@thebanj0271 ew

    • @ottoask9151
      @ottoask9151 Před 6 měsíci +49

      @@ville__ ew

  • @shamantherebel
    @shamantherebel Před měsícem +14

    The dude who dropped major bars in the last 30 seconds deserves some sort of award.

  • @evelyndemoss4339
    @evelyndemoss4339 Před 8 dny +21

    I feel powerful AF. Not only am I a queer woman of color, a literal life portal but now I have the ability to change the weather! 😂

    • @nashe_outofcontext
      @nashe_outofcontext Před 6 dny +2

      Likeeee 🤣theyre giving us too much credit

    • @lilo19951995
      @lilo19951995 Před 2 dny

      for real im gonna go kiss a girl to get a tempest incoming just for fun LMAO

  • @pauliusd6505
    @pauliusd6505 Před 5 měsíci +1006

    Kind of odd casting as 7/8 people are christian so of course the majority of the conversation will be surrounded around religion. Feel bad for Abigail, but she has held her own throughout the entire debate. Would love to have her on again, her voice is very important.

    • @alphauno6614
      @alphauno6614 Před 5 měsíci +19

      If you are talking about morality then religion will inevitably get involved.

    • @EveaGornall
      @EveaGornall Před 5 měsíci +9

      Yes, would LOVE to see her more

    • @maverick4255
      @maverick4255 Před 5 měsíci +9

      ⁠@@alphauno6614It doesn’t need to be, and luckily the world is changing in that way.

    • @PWaves
      @PWaves Před 5 měsíci

      These people are not blindly casted. She probably put forward that she has experienced a religious lifestyle before. She went to church and went to a catholic school lol

    • @laguapa2375
      @laguapa2375 Před 5 měsíci +3

      yeah, the whole convo is circular and goes nowhere

  • @sicomode7436
    @sicomode7436 Před 2 měsíci +1812

    “I don’t see intersex” is the same as “I don’t see skin color” LMFAO. Like it’s still there 💀

    • @SIAN_1
      @SIAN_1 Před 2 měsíci +60

      It was not in the same context. "I don't see skin colour" means I treat you the same as white, black, hispanic person.
      "I don't see intersex" in that context ment he don't acknowledge her being intersex, because he believes there are only men and women. Which is the complete opposite of "I don't see skin colour"

    • @sicomode7436
      @sicomode7436 Před 2 měsíci +37

      @@SIAN_1 I don’t see skin color seems like an ok statement but it’s subtly racist. It’s diminishing the fact that their skin color IS different. It reminds me of the way he’s diminishing her gender because he doesn’t believe in intersex. Doesn’t change the fact that she physically is.

    • @kickroxanne
      @kickroxanne Před 2 měsíci +13

      That’s definitely not the same lol.

    • @sicomode7436
      @sicomode7436 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@kickroxanne you have to look at the underlying commonalities. If you think about it, definitely is the same lmfao. Stating you don’t see a certain characteristic of a person because of your beliefs is just weird and nobody wants to hear it.

    • @sicomode7436
      @sicomode7436 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@kickroxanne I’m not saying he said it in the same context. I’m saying both statements are just as weird as eachother if that makes more sense LOL.

  • @Wicked1xX
    @Wicked1xX Před měsícem +30

    All the "Ex-LGBT" people... Y'all are not straight. Y'all are still Gay or Bi... Repressing what you actually want doesn't change your sexuality 🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @chlxezz
      @chlxezz Před měsícem

      Literally!!

    • @harleylinnX
      @harleylinnX Před měsícem +6

      This isn't necessarily true.

    • @leazehnder1977
      @leazehnder1977 Před měsícem +3

      I identified as bisexual before being born again. I don't feel any attractions for women anymore and I am being completely honest here.

    • @chlxezz
      @chlxezz Před měsícem +1

      @@leazehnder1977 whatever u say ^^

    • @taydriver5199
      @taydriver5199 Před měsícem

      @@chlxezz😂😅😂😅

  • @read.g.e
    @read.g.e Před 24 dny +29

    LIVING for Abigail's reactions and facial expressions in this video she's fabulous!

  • @no-zf3te
    @no-zf3te Před 4 měsíci +764

    This episode should be titled:
    - '8 people talk about christianity' 💀

    • @lupemaydon
      @lupemaydon Před 3 měsíci +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @happymonkey4340
      @happymonkey4340 Před 3 měsíci +2

      hellelujah!

    • @sjappiyah4071
      @sjappiyah4071 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Ong , even the prompts were religious talking about “heaven” and such…They should‘be just made this an episode on LGBTQ & Christianity

    • @kehlcassidy9562
      @kehlcassidy9562 Před 26 dny +2

      7 people talk about Christianity and 1 Abigail sits there feeling really awkward (but still totally slays!)

  • @lemonheadalisa5402
    @lemonheadalisa5402 Před 6 měsíci +2458

    I loved how Gilbert spoke up for Abigail IMMEDIATELY. he didn’t let that slide for even one second and i respect that so much and he came with his facts i loved that

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV Před 6 měsíci +335

      Thank you so much!! I have been bullied with the Bible before I learned it inside and out for myself. I wasn’t going to allow someone else to be abused.

    • @nate2759
      @nate2759 Před 6 měsíci

      Abigail shouldn’t of even been there, intersex shouldn’t even be apart of the LGB community and neither should trans because one should never mix biology and sexuality that is what’s created so much craziness within the community for starters.

    • @ohnosponolios4126
      @ohnosponolios4126 Před 6 měsíci

      stop. just stop. your premise is incorrect to begin with, it has always been lgbT. Literally since the beginning. Why? because the people that want trans people dead also want LGB people dead, hate all of us the same, and see no difference between us. Trying to make it "LGB" just creates an unnecessary wedge in a community that has already progressed along side eachother in this society @@nate2759

    • @Chocokitty57
      @Chocokitty57 Před 6 měsíci +70

      @@GilbertGTVyou’re fuc*ing amazing. I would have done the same and I was like YESSSS FREAKING TELL THEM. The disrespect

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV Před 6 měsíci +33

      @@Chocokitty57Thank you, love!! 🙏🏼❤️

  • @LeoWay-yo3wg
    @LeoWay-yo3wg Před měsícem +32

    I would like to say, you cant unGay, you can lie to yourself or just ignore it but that doesnt mean your suddenly straight

    • @Okthen09
      @Okthen09 Před měsícem +4

      Through Christ you are born again

    • @FreenBeckyFB
      @FreenBeckyFB Před 19 dny +2

      ​@@Okthen09Why do y'all talk like a cultist bro💀?

    • @RB-.-
      @RB-.- Před 18 dny +4

      Don't speak on something you don't know about. Some people actually have the strength to not let weak forces control their entire life.

    • @Negro_bombona
      @Negro_bombona Před 12 dny

      There's therapy for narcissists, and there's therapy for gay people. If you can't ungay then you can't unnarcissist

    • @DeathsDynamic
      @DeathsDynamic Před 6 dny

      @@FreenBeckyFB The only cultists are the children of Mao ze dong aka the atheists

  • @neilbowman5334
    @neilbowman5334 Před měsícem +88

    The amount of denial from the "Ex-LGBTQ+" folks is insane! 😳

    • @firstclass000
      @firstclass000 Před měsícem

      and the amount of denial from the LGBT-ABCDEFG whatever people is more insane. They're denying the fact that you be straight after previously being crooked

    • @harrymbakwe8424
      @harrymbakwe8424 Před měsícem +8

      Honestly mind your own business the ppl there seems very happy you saying that they are in deb3ial of there self is honestly disrespectful

    • @shuporangporang.linoss
      @shuporangporang.linoss Před 19 dny

      @@harrymbakwe8424 Well they admited themselfes all that they are denying their queer side, disrespectful or not that's the truth

    • @elitebomber3982
      @elitebomber3982 Před 9 dny +1

      @@harrymbakwe8424they r tho you cant choose who you love

  • @futureactor132
    @futureactor132 Před 5 měsíci +2765

    Can we seriously have a conversation that isn't about "gay is wrong because religion"

    • @annabelle.rose.slay.
      @annabelle.rose.slay. Před 5 měsíci +47

      frrr

    • @whalium889
      @whalium889 Před 5 měsíci +84

      I read a comment Gilbert made in the comment section that said ex-gays are mainly religious because it is based in religion and it’s not really a secular concept. Im surprised by that though and find it hard to believe. You’re telling me that there isn’t someone who was like I’m ex-gay cuz I wanted kids and someone to have the kids with and to raise them with ???

    • @SillyRoneo
      @SillyRoneo Před 5 měsíci +172

      It is tiring to have religion the main subject

    • @DA-xu1du
      @DA-xu1du Před 5 měsíci +163

      well that’s bcos there are no secular arguments against homosexuality

    • @sage1k910
      @sage1k910 Před 5 měsíci

      They literally cannot. How many atheist homophobes/ex lgbt do you know?…. Religion is literally the only argument against homosexuality.

  • @kimberlee3170
    @kimberlee3170 Před 6 měsíci +1650

    Okay so what I’m really finding unfortunate is that all ‘ex-LGBTQIA+’ argue from a religious standpoint. In this case I don’t know why there was a Middle Ground episode when there obviously won’t be a middle ground because of different moral standpoints.

    • @tgr5312
      @tgr5312 Před 6 měsíci +45

      Religion is their moral basis, if you dont like the fact that their morality is different then yours, its your problem, not theirs.

    • @kimberlee3170
      @kimberlee3170 Před 6 měsíci +254

      @@tgr5312 That’s not what I’m arguing. Maybe read again. But I’m arguing is that this debate is completely useless because people won’t find middle ground because of arguing solely from their moral standpoints.

    • @woodennickel2772
      @woodennickel2772 Před 6 měsíci +109

      Exactly, it leaves no room for going forward in a conversation

    • @woodennickel2772
      @woodennickel2772 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@tgr5312Yes because at 24:45 they’re totally debating something

    • @qwertpoo1
      @qwertpoo1 Před 6 měsíci +10

      I also think the notion that being gay occurs naturally is wrong. The only animals that do it with the same sex arent exclusively doing it with same sex and they are typically species with high sex drives like dolphins sheep beetles etc. its not naturally occurring it never was. Thats like saying Humans came up with the term homosexual because they were homo erectus. To answer your comment it seems like the only way out of the gay ideology is to adopt a more omnipotent one. Like belief in a higher power than yourself.

  • @germanfernandez7944
    @germanfernandez7944 Před 9 dny +27

    Not the dude in white comparing being gay to getting McDonald's 💀💀

  • @jays1079
    @jays1079 Před 4 měsíci +2284

    This should be renamed Religion vs LGBTQ

    • @gp2779
      @gp2779 Před 3 měsíci

      More like Christianism vs LGBTQ
      Hindus, Buddhists, Jainists, the Bahai doesn’t even care if you’re LGBT.

    • @EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEE Před 3 měsíci +103

      i dissagree only becuase some of the lgbtq folks were religious

    • @awesomesaucy3549
      @awesomesaucy3549 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEEbut ultimately they chose religion

    • @jerushaoketch4293
      @jerushaoketch4293 Před 3 měsíci

      ikrrrrrrr
      @@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEE

    • @KrayZJoy
      @KrayZJoy Před 3 měsíci +77

      It's not really "religion," it's "Christianity." They didn't introduce Buddhism, Muslim, Jewish, or any other religion. They mentioned Baptist and Catholic. And Candace seems to be living under her own set of beliefs she's calling Christianity and it's not.

  • @lydia.cobain
    @lydia.cobain Před 6 měsíci +635

    I would love a recheck of this group 5 years from now.

    • @moniqueengleman873
      @moniqueengleman873 Před 5 měsíci +52

      Me too. I don't think this is going to age well.
      The crutches that people use to get by is interesting.

    • @genesisburns883
      @genesisburns883 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Frfr

    • @pran_so_cool143
      @pran_so_cool143 Před 5 měsíci +7

      this comment should be pinned haha

    • @tinker6362
      @tinker6362 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Absolutely! Would be especially interesting seeing how things pan out with Rashaad.

    • @rondaniels985
      @rondaniels985 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Seriously

  • @nickmullins3451
    @nickmullins3451 Před 8 dny +5

    As someone who is now a homo and was told my whole life it wasn’t okay to be a homo, I can say that telling people it’s not okay to be gay will not keep them from being gay. Telling your kids it is okay to be gay doesn’t make them gay.

  • @stargirl91291
    @stargirl91291 Před 8 dny +5

    All the ex’s literally proving the opposite point…saying they are still attracted to the same gender, shows they are still gay, they just choose to not act upon those thoughts, or “identify” as lgbtq, despite being that person deep inside themselves.

  • @BecksaViolet
    @BecksaViolet Před 6 měsíci +2478

    the nerve of him to refer to abigail as his friend after calling her demonic and denying her existence is crazzzzy

    • @theguywhoisaustralian1465
      @theguywhoisaustralian1465 Před 5 měsíci +308

      "Hate the sin love the sinner" is a bunch of patronising crap

    • @BecksaViolet
      @BecksaViolet Před 5 měsíci +25

      @@theguywhoisaustralian1465 real

    • @catscats4427
      @catscats4427 Před 5 měsíci +37

      @@theguywhoisaustralian1465lol I would’ve said back “well this sinner doesn’t love you”

    • @michaeljohndadd545
      @michaeljohndadd545 Před 5 měsíci +14

      ​@@theguywhoisaustralian1465can't accept the truth?

    • @theguywhoisaustralian1465
      @theguywhoisaustralian1465 Před 5 měsíci

      @michaeljohndadd545 The truth of what? That organised religion has become a rich and evil tax free haven of an excuse to preach hate under the guise of salvation, while also committing most of the sins they claim to be against and controlling their brainwashed masses?
      That truth?

  • @cmac7547
    @cmac7547 Před 6 měsíci +2447

    Abigail's mere existence destroys their arguments EVERY TIME

    • @rollitupmars
      @rollitupmars Před 6 měsíci +192

      And they can’t stand and it…🤣

    • @rosiekuder6877
      @rosiekuder6877 Před 6 měsíci +144

      Exceptions are not the rule, it is extremely rare for people to be born that way. It makes less sense than parking minimums to try to base an abnormality with the norm. It is an abnormality for a reason, if there was no normal than nothing would be abnormal aka not the norm aka rare aka uncommon. It is like raining fish. Everytime it rains fish do not fall from the sky. It is a rare phenomenon that needs a certain amount of circumstances in place to happen. But it doesn't happen often.

    • @bakaflaka7722
      @bakaflaka7722 Před 6 měsíci +328

      @@rosiekuder6877being born intersex is as common as being born ginger. It is no where near “extremely rare”.

    • @JamieBleu
      @JamieBleu Před 6 měsíci +80

      Her existence is like the missing puzzle piece. If human beings can be born any combination of intersex (XY with a girl body or XX with a man's body) how could anyone doubt that brain which is also part of DNA can be affected as well and someone can have an XY brain with an XX body and vice versa. It's as simple as 1+2 =3 vs 2+1=3. The opposite can be true as well.

    • @Kami_-_-_
      @Kami_-_-_ Před 6 měsíci +55

      @@bakaflaka7722 they both fall within the 1-2% of the worlds population when compared to the other 98-99% I’d say they are both extremely rare .

  • @goseeex
    @goseeex Před 7 dny +5

    watching this as an atheist from a predominantly atheist country, this conversation is wild to me. "who allowed you to define yourself?" is such an alien question for me, i would never ask that to another person because for me it isnt something that I should get permission to do so. would have loved it if this conversations was less religious orientated, or some atheists mixed in the conversation to balance it out and get other perspectives and other motives

  • @BigBear_all_over
    @BigBear_all_over Před 9 dny +4

    The gay earthquake thing got me

  • @siggyd7287
    @siggyd7287 Před 6 měsíci +2030

    Abigail was a much-needed voice on this panel. Very frustrating watching people question the validity of her lived reality to her face, but I hope those who need to hear voices like hers can through this video.

    • @gabiwasabi2249
      @gabiwasabi2249 Před 6 měsíci

      +

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen Před 6 měsíci +28

      she doesn't belong on this panel at all, since it's not about intersex people who have a different set of chromosomes. VERY different from homosexuality entirely.

    • @siggyd7287
      @siggyd7287 Před 6 měsíci +38

      Gay in the title is clearly being used as an umbrella term for the LGBTQ+ community, which Abigail is a member of and an important voice in.

    • @changfasalmwang7778
      @changfasalmwang7778 Před 6 měsíci +14

      Voice of what? She shouldn't be on the panel. She just there with a victim mentality

    • @siggyd7287
      @siggyd7287 Před 6 měsíci +36

      As a representative for intersex and trans people. The I in LGBTQIA+ stands for intersex. I’m done engaging in this conversation. We love you Abigail!!

  • @ludrizyy
    @ludrizyy Před 5 měsíci +2270

    Abigail’s facial expressions throughout this are oddly synched with mine 😭

  • @kennethbailey9853
    @kennethbailey9853 Před měsícem +10

    Age 65 and after a whole life time of self denial I am still praying and abstainance has not changed or helped me. 😢😮

  • @pamheibarajkumar9332
    @pamheibarajkumar9332 Před měsícem +8

    Abigail face expressions throughout the session... Hahaha... Living

  • @mikepictor
    @mikepictor Před 6 měsíci +2618

    I am so incredibly grateful to Abigail being so confident and open to bring her story to us the viewers. We hear so little about the lived realisties of intersex people, and I am grateful to learn more about it.

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz Před 6 měsíci +130

      Thank you so much 🥺❤️

    • @szasbaddest1
      @szasbaddest1 Před 6 měsíci +28

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillz I love your drag, and I LOVED YOU ON THIS EPISODE. Thank you for speaking out.

    • @Wraiven22
      @Wraiven22 Před 6 měsíci +28

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillzfor real, I know so little about the intersex community despite being LGBTQ myself! It was so cool to learn more from a group that’s so often brushed under the rug, thanks you for sharing with all of us!

    • @blindreck
      @blindreck Před 6 měsíci +7

      Idk, in the scope of this conversation idk how it was relevant. This was a very theocratic episode and her existence really wasnt called to question.

    • @LadyyInsanee
      @LadyyInsanee Před 6 měsíci +2

      Thas the point of the video, to educate N learn abt different mfs💯

  • @aishayassain8513
    @aishayassain8513 Před 6 měsíci +3376

    I'm genuinely shocked about how many ex-lgbt consistently use their religion as their only talking point. It's literally completely irrelevant if you don't follow christianity. I'm from the UK and idk whether it's a cultural difference but I feel like religion is never brought up this much surrounding political or social debates. America seems like an alternate universe to me

    • @Dakyta252
      @Dakyta252 Před 6 měsíci +397

      They do be talking like in a cult somehow ngl

    • @secularhumanistforever
      @secularhumanistforever Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@Dakyta252 They are in the cult christianity and islam are both death cults as are all monotheistic religions and organized religions who require blind believe in fantasy fairytales that have zero facts to back them up and hate critical thinking and any deviation from their cult rhetoric.

    • @schneedgod
      @schneedgod Před 6 měsíci +40

      @@secularhumanistforever Yup. Couldn't have said it better.

    • @BewilderedCitrus
      @BewilderedCitrus Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@schneedgod what did they say? I can't see their comment.

    • @yolt6974
      @yolt6974 Před 5 měsíci +63

      They do sound like thy are at peace with themselves tho compared to the average person ngl

  • @user-lp8jk6vg7u
    @user-lp8jk6vg7u Před měsícem +8

    They suppressed their desires, who they truly are. That is depressing living a lie.

  • @HomemakerDaze
    @HomemakerDaze Před 8 dny +3

    As kinda an ex-lesbian myself, i just think i was bi all along and made a choice to date men now. I dont think its a sin though..

  • @thatdeliagirl1491
    @thatdeliagirl1491 Před 6 měsíci +1236

    I love that an intersex person was on this panel.

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz Před 6 měsíci +102

      Thank you so much! I was grateful to be there

    • @sobeliever1638
      @sobeliever1638 Před 6 měsíci +16

      Why? Does the exception make a rule?

    • @ivicnunez
      @ivicnunez Před 6 měsíci +42

      @@sobeliever1638there are millions of intersex humans.

    • @XanaxMilf
      @XanaxMilf Před 6 měsíci +28

      @@sobeliever1638 it’s funny people like you “well exceptions” are the type to use “well these people are only 1% of population” and think because that percentage has “1” it’s insignificant when percentages represent amounts, that 1% can represent 100 MILLION people and in fact, 1.60% of people are intersex, that percentage represents around 100 million people. That is literally an amount of people a large whole country.

    • @XZYZXYZXY-ni7bu
      @XZYZXYZXY-ni7bu Před 6 měsíci

      @@sobeliever1638the whole science of biology is the so called science of exemptions so dont come here pointing at and acting like u know what you are talking about since you dont even own a mere knowledge of biochemistry. Coming from a BioChem Major, please educate yourself before you speak hatred. Biology is way WAY more complex than what you may think or have thought. Goodnight and also 1% of the world isnt a very small percentage if u think that its equal to about 80 million people.

  • @salmon1290
    @salmon1290 Před 5 měsíci +3016

    To the guy with a baby on the way: As a parent you MUST be prepared to love your child NO MATTER WHAT. If you cant love every part of your child you should not have them

    • @michellecortez38
      @michellecortez38 Před 5 měsíci +44

      @@quinnkrause6489that’s very true 🤔

    • @milkchocolate630
      @milkchocolate630 Před 5 měsíci +1

      If both parents are anti-lgbtq, which they most likely are, then they will teach their child what they believe. Therefore, the child will believe what the parents believe. The blond woman’s children are pro lgbt because she’s pro lgbt and that’s what she taught them at early age.

    • @worsttaste.3464
      @worsttaste.3464 Před 5 měsíci +106

      I am sure he will love the baby, but the relations to the baby's mother are questionable. Poor woman.

    • @blacksabbathmatters
      @blacksabbathmatters Před 5 měsíci +17

      And if he doesnt emotionally or physically abuse that child they wont be gay.

    • @Marco-el2he
      @Marco-el2he Před 5 měsíci +46

      @@blacksabbathmatters ...... reported

  • @caleb8060
    @caleb8060 Před měsícem +9

    42:32 “who you think you are” This is the problem. To view people as not knowing who they are when they are telling you who they are, and the refusal to listen is why things won’t get better.

  • @daphoenix82
    @daphoenix82 Před 19 dny +3

    The final statement was everything!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @ItSmYbIrThdAyToMorRoW
    @ItSmYbIrThdAyToMorRoW Před 6 měsíci +908

    Abigail is so amazing, the way that she shared her story so openly in order to help others feel accepted and bring awareness to the lives of intersex people.

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV Před 5 měsíci +4

      Yes!! ❤❤

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 Před 5 měsíci +4

      She is very charming and charismatic as well as smart.
      I hope the best for her!

    • @pelayo341
      @pelayo341 Před 5 měsíci

      most intersex people dont follow its agenda, they mostly follow gender critical thought

    • @dreamsdicc1817
      @dreamsdicc1817 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@marlonmoncrieffe0728shes very ill-mannered and doesnt have empathy for ex-lgbtq people. She cant agree on anything they say when mentioning the bible unless the lgbtq people do, yet she doesnt believe in the bible

    • @beepinboopin6454
      @beepinboopin6454 Před 5 měsíci +2

      No such thing as “intersex”. It’s extremely rare and now EVERY trans person says they’re intersex. It’s not a thing.

  • @smithsunleashed
    @smithsunleashed Před 5 měsíci +2330

    Gilbert calling Rashad out for denying Abigails intersexuality is the best for me. I appreciate him for that

    • @rafael.almeida99
      @rafael.almeida99 Před 5 měsíci +17

      He was just sooo dramatic. Like, bro, chill.

    • @jhedjoardumago7691
      @jhedjoardumago7691 Před 5 měsíci +41

      You either have XX or XY. Abigail has XX with defect somewhere in her gene code. So she is a female with a defect. Same as a person who genetically cannot grow hair. It does not make them an egyptian cat lol

    • @_KungFuBarbie_
      @_KungFuBarbie_ Před 5 měsíci +141

      @@jhedjoardumago7691Dude you literally described what intersex is (although badly) in that first part. Google is free, educate yourself

    • @gob6793
      @gob6793 Před 5 měsíci +82

      @@jhedjoardumago7691It’s insane how you perfectly explain what intersex is and why it’s real, but don’t understand it.

    • @jasminehoffman5409
      @jasminehoffman5409 Před 5 měsíci +7

      ​@@jhedjoardumago7691she was assigned male at birth it's the opposite of androgen insensitivity syndrome where a woman is born with XY Chromosomes.

  • @kenishas.1360
    @kenishas.1360 Před měsícem +52

    Rashad was insufferable…and I can almost guarantee his marriage won’t last. Mark my words
    And the other “ex gays” on the panel? ….yea ok lol

  • @KamilMikoajczak-ji6yf
    @KamilMikoajczak-ji6yf Před 8 dny +2

    they should do this video once again but this time not focus on religion 95% of time

  • @syd6126
    @syd6126 Před 5 měsíci +2985

    LOVE this blonde therapist. Great at catching the disrespect and reflecting it back on people.

    • @endthelogin
      @endthelogin Před 5 měsíci +222

      Lol yup she catches them micro aggressions like a seasoned activist.

    • @Sourpatchk1dz
      @Sourpatchk1dz Před 5 měsíci +153

      yes, she’s calm and collected while still being spiritually inclined to talk about her experiences

    • @jhedjoardumago7691
      @jhedjoardumago7691 Před 5 měsíci

      Who? The one who felt the holy spirit most while committing sin hated by the holy spirit? She's not even a Christian since her statement contradicts the Bible lol it makes her the least credible in the group.

    • @KeilyHD
      @KeilyHD Před 5 měsíci +81

      Had to pause the video bc she was COOKING them and I was NOT ready and I couldn't see it!

    • @mario_judah_hater9816
      @mario_judah_hater9816 Před 5 měsíci

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@KeilyHD lmao no. Her idea of Christianity is fabricated in her own head, something the Bible clearly says not to do (2 Timothy 4:3, deut. 4:2 and jeremiah 17:9). She literally said “prove me wrong about christianity without using the Bible” 32:56 how is this cooking? It’s stupidity.

  • @JabariToure94
    @JabariToure94 Před 6 měsíci +846

    You can tell Rashaad is hurting. No one is that preachy without burying alot of trauma.

    • @uscitizen3252
      @uscitizen3252 Před 5 měsíci +133

      I appreciate your empathetic observation. Honestly, it's true. He's a new Christian, husband and soon-to-be father and he's very young. I don't think he should've been on this panel. I think he'll regret it in years to come. I'm not convinced by his "transformation." It's way too new for him to come out swinging this hard especially when his experience is closer to the current LGBT than the ex-LGBT. We should've seen way more compassion from him to the current LGBT.

    • @shalini_sevani
      @shalini_sevani Před 5 měsíci +145

      I feel really sorry for his wife. It's obvious that he is not really comfortable with his new found situation. He is repressing so much and so hard. It is bound to come out in unhealthy ways. It will either come out as cheating, leaving his wife, or (what is most worrying to me) he will take out his frustrations on his wife and kids.

    • @JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse
      @JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse Před 5 měsíci

      @@uscitizen3252 That's just bad of you to assume things that hasnt happened and arent true. That's why you are dishonest and its bad for society what you are doing.

    • @JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse
      @JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse Před 5 měsíci +22

      @@shalini_sevani Stop assuming you are a horrible person.

    • @thatsmynamesowhat2949
      @thatsmynamesowhat2949 Před 5 měsíci +24

      @@JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuseit’s amazing how they refuse to believe that being a Christian can change someone’s from being gay. Lol

  • @raychelgray8217
    @raychelgray8217 Před 18 dny +28

    Gray shirt IS SOOO TRAUMATIZED!!!! He truly needs to face the truth for himself. He has been bible thumped so harshly and needs REAL therapy.

    • @tahoe404
      @tahoe404 Před 2 dny

      He's been scared straight literally

  • @tillyeliza2309
    @tillyeliza2309 Před 8 dny +3

    Abigail’s eye rolls make this video

  • @GayLordAbsolute
    @GayLordAbsolute Před 3 měsíci +925

    when I say my jaw dropped when bro compared bestiality to the entirety of queerness...........

    • @emmaatpwk
      @emmaatpwk Před 3 měsíci +26

      I WAS JAW DROPPED

    • @st4r_.g1rl
      @st4r_.g1rl Před 3 měsíci +53

      LITERALLY LIKE WHO SAID ANYTHING ABT DOGS???

    • @chirho8657
      @chirho8657 Před 3 měsíci

      Because it's an unnatural lust, there's no difference between pedophilia, bestiality and homicidal tendencies or any other weird impulse.

    • @ericklagos1431
      @ericklagos1431 Před 3 měsíci +48

      because its basically the same thing lmao. Its unnatural

    • @sombra298
      @sombra298 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ericklagos1431if it’s unnatural why do we see it in nature?

  • @z.o.20
    @z.o.20 Před 6 měsíci +357

    “If you wanna have sex w a dog have sex w a dog” rashad is CRAZY

    • @Supahead79
      @Supahead79 Před 5 měsíci +63

      It’s because he has been through a lot and Christianity is the only thing that brings him peace. I wish he could have learned that he could do that while being himself

    • @RB-.-
      @RB-.- Před 18 dny

      @@Supahead79 He is himself. We are ourselves!! Shaming us bc we broke free from the indoctrination of the woke cult is so demeaning.

    • @Negro_bombona
      @Negro_bombona Před 12 dny

      ​@@Supahead79If he could do that himself he would, but he can't

  • @saszablaze1
    @saszablaze1 Před 8 dny +3

    when you come at it from a religious instead of scientific perspective, you always gonna come across crazy.

  • @louiserobert2985
    @louiserobert2985 Před 5 dny +2

    From a progressive, diverse part of Canada 🇨🇦 I was naively expecting a discussion on whether gender / sexuality can evolve, not a Christian debate. 😅

  • @phaedrasrevenge5807
    @phaedrasrevenge5807 Před 5 měsíci +1028

    Rashad saying he loves Abigail and is friends with Abigail after saying she doesn’t exist is insane 💀

    • @kstevenson3504
      @kstevenson3504 Před 4 měsíci +48

      Don't distort his words. He is only saying she is not gender-fluid. She was still ONE GENDER or the other. As he sees it, she agreed. She is a female with some male parts.

    • @VlNCEY
      @VlNCEY Před 4 měsíci

      @@kstevenson3504 he said "I don't believe in inter-sex people" and gender is a social construct. unlike your face which needs a re-construct

    • @ladylaurenia
      @ladylaurenia Před 4 měsíci

      the opposite really. she's obviously male with some female aspects. @@kstevenson3504

    • @natara2384
      @natara2384 Před 3 měsíci +112

      ​@@kstevenson3504Out of all the other Ex-LGBTQIA panelists that I can understand, he seems to be the most ignorant & stubborn one of all. And blatantly denied the existence of intersexuality which has been proven to exist through medical science lol!

    • @BB25_25
      @BB25_25 Před 3 měsíci +19

      @@natara2384intersex are anomalies of the male or female sex categories. They might have characteristics of the opposite sex, but scientifically they are either male or female. They are not a third sex or both sexes. Abigail prefers to present as female over male or something else, bc there’s only two sexes.

  • @toonbax3
    @toonbax3 Před 6 měsíci +1325

    This was painful to listen to. In any religion, if it makes you see people as evil just because of who they love, I pity them. There needs to be much more love in the world. Makes me so sad

    • @clarabourgeois8244
      @clarabourgeois8244 Před 5 měsíci +4

    • @torilawson2156
      @torilawson2156 Před 5 měsíci +3

      This!

    • @Bus7585
      @Bus7585 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Sinner

    • @badass_cumber
      @badass_cumber Před 5 měsíci +42

      ​@@Bus7585religious fanatic

    • @yiuwingtung4226
      @yiuwingtung4226 Před 5 měsíci +27

      we don’t see people as evil…
      we are all sinned. so it doesn’t put christians on a pedestal. its just some of us who are opinionated and overradical.

  • @JOSH-1-2-3
    @JOSH-1-2-3 Před 6 dny +2

    It was beautiful to see LGBTQIA+ Christians standing tall, and showing love and acceptance

  • @evangelinepost7545
    @evangelinepost7545 Před měsícem +14

    “It’s not up to me to get to define who I am” bro WHAT🤨 you’re legit the ONLY person who gets to define that

    • @BorisVixen
      @BorisVixen Před měsícem

      No. Who you are is determined in the whom as far as gender. It's up to your parents to give you a name, and the government to give you an identity document. You don't get to define yourself.

    • @tara8348
      @tara8348 Před měsícem +1

      @@BorisVixen what? why cant i change my name or my identity if i so choose?

    • @BorisVixen
      @BorisVixen Před měsícem

      @@tara8348 You may change your name, but that's just changing your name. No one can change their sex/gender, nor where they were born, nor who their parents are.

  • @datta4062
    @datta4062 Před 6 měsíci +482

    gilbert and abigail are the duo we need in life

    • @vlwebbjr
      @vlwebbjr Před 6 měsíci +2

      Need to??? Lol to go visit the middle east lol

    • @soapnwater69
      @soapnwater69 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@vlwebbjr??

    • @tuskeralex
      @tuskeralex Před 5 měsíci +6

      Candice was great too

    • @kaypakaipa8559
      @kaypakaipa8559 Před 5 měsíci +1

      nah we dont, and thts why theres soo few of them

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV Před 5 měsíci +6

      Thank you love!! 🙏🏼❤️

  • @kuro-tan
    @kuro-tan Před 2 měsíci +1086

    as a non-religious person, i don’t understand how you can simultaneously say you love and respect someone while believing that they’ve done something that warrants being tortured for eternity.

    • @valeriethechaotic
      @valeriethechaotic Před měsícem +81

      You can have a friend that you believe has done something wrong, they believe that should get the consequences for their actions. But you do respect them as a person, you do care about them but you don’t support that one aspect of a person.
      A lot of time I have friends who have parts of their personality I don’t like but that doesn’t mean I hate them as a person.

    • @ethandollarhide7943
      @ethandollarhide7943 Před měsícem

      @@BorisVixen Are you admitting that you view Non Christian Groups as E*il?

    • @ibeamy
      @ibeamy Před měsícem +20

      It’s because we were created with free will. We have choices. We have the freedom to choose.

    • @KurtMoore_
      @KurtMoore_ Před měsícem +12

      @@valeriethechaoticfalse equivalents

    • @Nadiahope7
      @Nadiahope7 Před měsícem

      That's God's standards not our human fallen standards. He designed our bodies to connect to opposite gender to reproduce. Anything outside of that isn't his design but corruption including straight multiple partners BTW.

  • @honjnhbbe6686
    @honjnhbbe6686 Před 6 dny +2

    as a trans person, it was a little hard to watch, i´be been questioning my gender for years, and even today it´s hard for me to valid myself because people keep question all my thougths and my choises, that makes me feel so unsafe and vulnerable....i just don't wan't to feel alone anymore, i want to feel validated and love without all the hate.

  • @kiya0334
    @kiya0334 Před 5 měsíci +2176

    All the 4 LGBTQIA+ people are so patient, articulate and empathetic. And they respect the other side but won't hesitate to defend their side!

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV Před 5 měsíci +77

      Thank you for seeing us!! 🙏🏼❤️

    • @tembelihlechifamba1790
      @tembelihlechifamba1790 Před 5 měsíci +80

      I disagree personally, we see what we want to see. Disagreement doesn't men someone was impatient

    • @eeee8489
      @eeee8489 Před 5 měsíci +7

      ​@@tembelihlechifamba1790but were they actually impatient or irrational?

    • @tembelihlechifamba1790
      @tembelihlechifamba1790 Před 5 měsíci +34

      @@eeee8489 I believe Gilbert was impatient. He was shouty

    • @ChrisMacal
      @ChrisMacal Před 5 měsíci +15

      Our bias sees differently. I see the others as impatiently