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I used to think this whole "flat earth" thing is just one of those Internet jokes where trolls are pretending that earth is flat, you would think this joke is only staying on Internet. Until I came to know that there are people out there who actually believe that earth is flat and conduct conferences for it from time to time. What's worse is these people even bring their children into these places and brainwashing their mind since childhood.
Congratulations
Can we have the name of the participants, specially the scientists!!!
Change the title to: How to frustrate 3 scientists.
Actually torture them!
Lol
Lmao
Those poor souls had no chance.
You can't argue with mental ill ignorance.
@@WolfeRavenwood yh and they also hurt us
And everyone watching.
âI dont think youâre uneducated, i think youâre wrongly educatedâ that was so mature, as oppose to âiM rUnNiNgâ đ
The earth is flat and motionless. Nasa pay media to spread lies. Propaganda etc. We under a dome also.
ron webber bro are you okay?
@@brianboru175 yeah
@@brianboru175 as ifđ
@@brianboru175 and we are all living in a simulation and also, the moon is a hoax
âI am a logical, biblically-based, and scientific flat-eartherâ
âŠthat is the biggest oxymoron Iâve ever heard in my life
U comment is comment of century đđđ
The Bible and science can and do coexist.
On the contrary....You should apply that comment to your own opinion.
@@maxgarbani6644Awkwardly phrased "no u" with no punchline. Your lack of creativity kind of speaks for itself.
@@jennie_b8398wow. Youâre amazing. Youâve heard every comment of the last centuryđđđđŽ
"There's a difference between a circle and a ball"
Way to go Shelley! You know your shapes!
She also knows globe is a lie
@@Globeisahoaxx no way you're a flat earther
@@DrewHealey-dq8tvnot at all. Iâm a Globe Slayer
@@Globeisahoaxx wut does globe slayer mean
@@DrewHealey-dq8tv means Iâm exposing globe lies and deception
Why do flat earthers talk like they're a marginalised group.
Playing the pity card cuz people give them a hard time for not understanding how they are messing up the scientific method
brittney brandt because people tell them theyâre wrong (aka the truth) and they feel hurt about it apparently
Cuz they believe they're religion is being attacked
Hm i think your on to something đ
Youâre* ya ya ik
"The flat earth society has members all around the globe"
- Flat earth society
How is that possible if they think the earth is flat
@@kimanireid9617 ik lmao, they posted it on Facebook or Twitter awhile ago
@@stargiirltv out of the 8 planets in our solar system why is earth the only one that is flat until they can answer that question I won't listen any nonsense about the earth being flat
@@kimanireid9617 they would say other planets don't exist only earth exist đ
@@kimanireid9617 cuz earth is a freaking freebie!!!!
It's so amazing how grown adults could believe the earth is flat.
They say the same about you. How can you fall for a globe scam
â@@GlobeisahoaxxWho are They?
@@GlobeisahoaxxSo reality is a scam? Sure you shloud run around freely?
Just as you believe you're on a spinning water ball, it's called indoctrination into psuedoscience. People are comfortable regurgitating the lies that's been spoon fed to them their entire life.
ââ@@GlobeisahoaxxIf earth was flat then why solar eclipse and lunar eclipse is happening?đđđ
I love how when theyâre introducing themselves, one side is filled with scientists whoâve spent years researching and studying, then theres a âcritical thinkerâ and a water guy
But if the globe is a scam , then there is no globe science. Just lies and cartoons
@@Globeishoax Hey Cletus, there is no IF. Earth is a globe, science is based on evidence and you are spreading lies and misinformation.
Science from the 80s while on ecstasy must have really solved a lot
Real scientists use the scientific method. Welcome to flat earth.
@@mikey18201 bro đ
Wow I can't imagine how frustrating this was for the scientists
If I were in their position, I'll throw the chair to flat earther. Got frustated just by watching this.
It's like explaning math to a toddler lmao, they can see far but can't get passed the truth smh
Ye, Ali even snapped once or twice
Frustrating? This show is scripted. Do unless they were told to act frustrated, there is no reason to be.
@@SkemeKOS there is so much reason to be frustrated. Could you imagine trying to tell someone grass is green and them telling you blankly that its pink
It's 2019 and there are people calling scientists uneducated
Vulpea Sireata a lot of times scientists speak about what they donât know about. The amount of fields that you would have to study to no all topics is crazy.Neil Tyson is a great example. He will talk about a range of topics and be very wrong sometimes. My point is being a scientist does not make you an expert on most topics just the ones use specialize in.
*know
Hell N Degenerates for flat earthers there can never be any proof that the earth is a sphere because all they do is look for reasons to be right and donât want to see what is real and what is not. They are really stubborn and not in a good way
Tom G its useless to argue against a flat earther, dont
@Hell N Degenerates youtube is full of scientists who have used clever methods to educate people how the world physically works and to troll anti-scientific sentiments. Flat earth or not.
This is a really interesting study in how religion, trauma, and the internet can really shape realities.
And expose globe shape
@@GlobeisahoaxxThe globe shape of the earth is a established fact for more than 2000 Years.
@@opelvectra2297 I do have to ask myself, why did Isaac Newton suddenly have to come up a force called gravity, which can't be tested or measured? How very unscientific! I mean, this wasn't the first time in history that people noticed an object falling. It's not that Newton was so much smarter than his predecessors, but it's because they already had a perfectly sound, testable, provable, mathematical explanation...density and buoyancy. Do things fall because of a mysterious, invisible force that pulls stuff down? Or, do objects fall because they are more dense than the medium they're surrounded by? Which also explains why things like apples don't continue to get pulled down by gravity once they land in water. Is it possible that we only needed gravity once the idea of a globe earth was more established, since no one could otherwise explain how a spinning ball didn't lose all of its water? In the very least, why don't all the oceans move toward the equator? How is it even possible that water is equally distributed across a spinning ball, especially since the earth must spin faster at the equator than at the poles? But somehow, whenever something falls people say "that's gravity" and not "that's density", which is mathematical and measurable. I also find it interesting that, for what it's worth, Newton came up with his idea in the year 1666. It's interesting how many times things are simply coincidental. Are we allowed to ask these questions without ridicule? They seem reasonable.
@@UncleFetz You lack of scientific education is very obvious. It's also obvious that you're parroting everything what flat earth conmen have told you. Why do you think that gravity can't be tested or measured. This is fifth grade stuff, is there no compulsory education in your country? And don't you know that density is calculated from mass and volume? Where does the downward acceleration of 9.81 m/s2 come from? And why down? Is there an explanation for this in your fantasy pizza world?
@@UncleFetz It's entirely valid to question scientific theories and concepts, as that's an essential part of the scientific process. Let's break down some of the points you've raised:
1. Newton and Gravity: Newton didn't invent the concept of objects falling, but he formulated the theory of gravity to explain the observations of falling objects and the motion of celestial bodies. Gravity, as described by Newton, is indeed testable and measurable. It allows for accurate predictions of the motions of planets, moons, and other celestial bodies. While the concept of density and buoyancy explains why objects sink or float in fluids, it doesn't fully account for the motion of celestial bodies or the behavior of objects in free fall.
2. Density and Buoyancy vs. Gravity: Density and buoyancy are indeed factors in why objects sink or float in fluids. However, gravity acts on all objects regardless of their density. It's not an either/or situation; both density/buoyancy and gravity play roles in different physical phenomena.
3. Earth's Shape and Gravity: The shape of the Earth and gravity are related, but the idea of gravity predates the widespread acceptance of the Earth being a globe. Gravity is a fundamental force that acts between all objects with mass. The distribution of water on Earth is influenced by gravity, the Earth's rotation, and other factors like winds and currents.
4. Equatorial Bulge and Water Distribution: The Earth's rotation does cause an equatorial bulge, meaning that the Earth is slightly flattened at the poles and bulges at the equator. However, this doesn't mean that water is perfectly distributed across the Earth's surface. Factors like gravitational variations, landmasses, and ocean currents influence the distribution of water.
5. Asking Questions: Absolutely, questioning scientific theories is essential for progress. However, it's important to base these questions on evidence and understanding of the scientific principles involved. Gravity has been extensively tested and verified through experiments and observations, making it a robust scientific theory.
In summary, while it's natural to question scientific concepts, it's crucial to do so within the framework of established evidence and principles. Gravity, as described by Newton and later refined by Einstein's theory of general relativity, remains a fundamental force in our understanding of the universe, backed by extensive empirical evidence.
Itâs that âand he paid for it.â Line about the physicists education that gets me. There is a perception out there that âeducationâ basically means âspent a ton of money on a piece of paperâ forgetting or not knowing that you also have to prove you know your topic. Respect for a proper education is plummeting and itâs chuckle-heads like this who perpetuate that erosion.
That's call indoctrination. You can know your topic, dosent mean you know the truth. People have been educated on lies since birth.
âi donât think youâre uneducated i think youâre wrongly educatedâ
that was hot
I-
I still believe the earth is phlat
@@722Moo what
@@atlproductions216 because the magnetic force is in the middle of the earth and if the earth was flat we will all be in the middle and our surroundings outside the magnetic force will be weak or will not be there at all so no gravity.
@@doievenwannaknow1239 who says gravity is in the middle
_'I don't think you guys are uneducated, I think you are wrongly educated.'_
How to politely offend your opponent 101
Exactly
Wtf
In terms of a proper debate , that would be proper
@@harshavardhan-xg8sz indeed. Few people would be liking this comment in a different context. For instance if this were being said to a communist only the commies would be disagreeing.
XD true tho
The flat earthers not understanding the question is so hilarious đ
Just like buyden not understating where he is and what time it is.
Dementia case
@@GlobeisahoaxxIs this your new fetish Cletus? Weird.
@@GlobeisahoaxxOh âŠyouâre a flat earther . Now how did I know that ?
Exactly. Those 3 didn't have much background in applied sciences. Go figure some youtuber darlings. Don't find more informed FEers or at very least globe skeptics
@@manutd231261 who are you?
I find it so disrespectful that the flat earthers try to call all religions "flat earth religions" when really no religion agrees with what they claim, they just cherrypick things and interpret them wrong
All ancient cosmology depicted flat earth with a dome over it and local sun inside
â@@GlobeishoaxAnd? We know acients were not really smart.
@@Globeishoax Buddy don't forget Hinduism - it is the oldest religion and depicted the Earth, the Sun, and all other celestial objects as a globe. Heck, the Hindus even believed is it the Earth with goes around the Sun wayyyy before Copernicus' heliocentric model
@@hardstuckbronzeplayer They say Rahu is causing eclipses
â@@Globeishoax There's a difference between being wrong on a few things and wrong on soo many, but they believed in science and math. I agree that the current way of science is more accurate, but it was still science. Not a novel some guy wrote and everyone believed, everyone wayyy dumber and less knowledged than the current folks, people who used to sacrifice a human for a better harvest as someone in the comments mentioned
Donât trust someone who calls themselves a âprofessional critical thinkerâ
Victoria Weldon also remember she do be blonde lmao
It took too much critical thinking come up with that title
Iâm a professional critical thinker
StaggeredHopoid Same
Victoria Weldon because itâs not a real thing đ
Being able to make a difference between âuneducatedâ and âwrongly educatedâ shows who is and is not.
Thank you for pointing this out and being logical
thank you professor
The only thing flat earthers fear is sphere itself.
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There needs to be one question asked:
"What does every modern government in the world have to gain by conspiring together to tell the world that the Earth is not flat?"
Nothing
Antarctic Treaty Pact was formed in late 50âs
â@@GlobehoaxSo what is the gain spending billions to hide the shape of the Earth?
@@Globehoax Hey Cletus, you never read the treaty as everyone knows.
Exactly my thought! Why spend that much time MONEY and resources to perpetuate such an enormous lie? That kind of thing is only done for a payoff. So what would be the worldwide conspiracy payoff for such a lie??? There's no sense there!
@@Globehoaxand England won the World Cup in 1966.
âIâm an astrophysicistâ
âWell Iâm a critical thinkerâ
Sooo, an astrophysicist without critical thinking is better than a critical thinker alone?? Ironically enough, you should rethink this!
Critical thinker jumping from an airplane
@@aaronmcpherson6015 "I jump out of planes"
Aaron Mcpherson you might wanna try this critical thinking thing for yourself sometime.. do you believe an astrophysics degree removes the ability for critical thought?
James Eden lmao chill this person is obviously low iq so when they misinterpreted this which is like insanely hard to do, just ignore and let em live
notice the difference between..
flat earther: âiâd like to tear them to piecesâ
scientists: âiâm open to having a discussionâ
Exactly
THIS
The more I study science, the more I believe in God"
Albert Einstein
"The more I study nature , the more I stand amazed at the work of the creator of Science brings nearer to GOD"
Louis Pasteur
"The half-hearted thinker will not believe in GOD, but people who think carefully with full heart will have to believe in GOD" Isaac Newton
Seek JESUS people and repent he's waiting that U open the door of your hearts to heal every single one of you âïžđđŸ
And also in Isaiah 40:22 the scriptures tell us that the earth is and was round " It is He who sits above the circle of the earth" Circle was Hebrew word that I can't spell "Ru" but it describes something spherical not flat GOD is the Alpha and Omega the almighty the most powerful and intelligent being these are just people who have misunderstood the bible
God bless you
@@YeshuaisKing7777 Dude stop spamming trough comments it just confirms how crazy you are
@@YeshuaisKing7777 " God doesn't want you to be annoying"- Me22:35
So stfu and go back to your cave
'Scientific Flat Earther' is the biggest contradictory sentence đ
One would say, an oxy-moron.
I remember the first time someone ever told me they thought the earth was flat. I was 18 at the time & it was a co worker of mine.
I thought he was jokingâŠâŠ he wasnât.
I couldnât believe my eyes when I got home and researched about it & found an entire community of people who thought the same thing.
Still shocks me till this day.
It also means globe is a scam and nasa is a movie set. Animation and CGI
@@Globeishoaxx ahahaha
@@GlobeishoaxxYou see Cletus, your creatures get the laughs that it deserves.
You think the had cgi in the 60âs?
@@thedude2367 movie set
"u have to take it literally"
That's how religion extremists and radicals develop my friend.
100%! Iâm a dedicated Christian, and I have to say I use my brain unlike the ones on this video. đJesus spoke in parables, that literally means stories to express similarities...
they act like itâs actually written by god(s) and there not so everything has to be taken with a grain of salt
How is not taking it literally what your religious text wants? Do you know how radicals develop? Religions in general. If you believe in god, why would he make your religious Text inaccurate? I donât think any religions are correct. The only reason people believe in them is because they were indoctrinated into themZ
@@redlemur7944 Its not about it being accurate. Its about the context of what it is. The bible is a book written by humans, that have flaws, can misunderstand things. The teachings of God are not literaly historical text, they are stories, examples, parables to teach a population. The bible was also written a long ass time ago by people that has an understanding of the Earth from a long ass time ago. It isn't relevant scientifically in any capacity today.
Robert Appleby I agree that it should not be a book of reference for science. But Iâm arguing that if a religious text said to sacrifice a human, the religious followers would do it, because it is the word of their god. Thatâs why religions can be dangerous, because they can say whatever they want and people will believe it.
Next episode:
âPeople who kick small children for fun vs. Parentsâ
nadia lucia đđ.
I laughed so hard
What's the difference
nadia lucia u made my day!!
đ€Łđ€Ł
The fact that the title and thumbnail convey a sense of "both sides are equal" illustrates everything that's wrong with the world today
Is that why WEF planning to release Disease X?
@@GlobeisahoaxHey Cletus, thatâs even for you really strange.
@@opelvectra2297I disagree. Thereâs NOTHING too bizarre for that baloney brain!!! đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
No kidding, the globe has been disproven over and over.
She even said she went down the rabbit hole. Which means she fell into conspiracies
Criminal conspiracies. They are truth seekers, exposing globe scam
â@@GlobehoaxThe only thing they are exposing is their ignorance.
No. Because that's where the truth lies, hidden away. Truth is just not popular anymore.
âcritical thinker and jumped out of airplanesâ wow those are some credentials
lexi styles7 I mean she did graduate from Westpoint
Collin Romero poor westpoint doesnât want her lol
Collin Romero still tho did you hear the others omg
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lexi styles7 đđđđ
"I'm Ali, I'm a theoretical physicist."
*"I'm Shelleeey and I'm a free thinkeeeerrrr"*
Pyriphlegeton free *CRITICAL* thinker
A free thinker that loves Jesus lol
I am so mad watching this video, the best part is when toilet cleaners insult scientist.
Sorry for bad english.
Isn't a theoretical scientist simply a free thinker?
@@matrixstrobe1176 Yes. And a religious fundamentalist is the exact opposite.
There is no middle ground on this. Itâs round. This is the 21st century, not the Dark Ages.
Cathedrals were built in dark ages.
@@Globeisahoax So what?
I believe in a globe earth. However, a disk AND a globe are both round....
The credentials bit at the start Is brilliant đ "truth seeker" "Iv jumped out of planes" đđ
âAll ancient religions believed the earth was flat.â
The Greeks:đ€š
3000 years ago. đŹđ·
Also Hinduism
Black Kazuki islam believes in a flat earth unless reinterpreted
@@yousifabdulhussein5149 Erm... no.
@@yousifabdulhussein5149 no it's not
I have a headache. These poor scientists has so much patience.
i was so angry listing to flat earther i would have no patience with them
Lol yes, I'd roll my eyes and leave them immediately.
@@riekuno i would point out thing about stars rotating anticlockwise in the north and clockwise in the south but after that if that did not convince them i would be done
i know right đ€Šđœââïž
that's why they are 'scientists'
by the way not all religions say earth is flat in hinduism:
Yajur Veda Chapter 3 verse number 6 â Earth is in a round form, Which revolves around the sun on itâs own speedâ
and by the way these vedas are written more than 5000 years ago
Show me the quote (and not quora answer)
The earth is called Bhugol, which literally translates to globe in Sanskrit
The only religion with the truth
James is so accurate in his speech yet keeps his humanity, he aslo speaks slowly and articulates well. I could listen to him for hours.
When the scientist said âWell, thatâs the problem.â I felt that
Kimberly Wong I actually thought that the flat Eartehrs were right on this one just because the internet doesnât force you to believe the earth is flat unlike school that pretty much force feeds it to you
@@trevorheimler7520 *I sense a traitor*
Kimberly is one letter from being wrong and the two replies are from jokesters and clowns
Lol felt that too, but idk y
@@danielberntsen3252 whatcha gettin at there with the whole jokester thing đ
Blue shirt: â well Iâm a Christianâ
Me ( also a Christian): NOOOOOOOO
Gabrielle Johnson lmao forreal like he making us believers look bad lmao
my exact reaction
ME TOO LIKE CAN WE JUST HAVE A GOOD REP FOR ONCE WITHOUT SHITHEADS LIKE THESE RUINING IT FOR US
Lol same
Moodđ
âDo your own researchâ says the people who donât do research. đ
Or think research comprises watching CZcams and TikTok videosâŠ
Still refuses to offer up one shred of evidence for a ball earth, but got a boatload of jokes. đđđđ
@@mikey18201 this wasnât a debunking video even though thereâs plenty onlineâŠor go outside and conduct a simple science experiment using a laser beam and a couple of friendsâŠ.im shocked that ppl who believe the earth is flat have that much confidence in the governments of the world being able to keep a secretâŠthe president of the USA couldnât get a BJ in the Oval Office without the whole world finding out đ
â@@mikey18201every planet in the solar system is round
You owe the world a follow-up to this video. Where are they now?â€
Mars: round
Venus:round
Jupiter:round
Neptune: round
Uranus: round
Mercury:round
Saturn: round
Earth: FlaT
We are sooo specialđ đ We are the teenager of the solar system...we wanna break the rules and be unique!
@Zombie Inmate Pluto isn't considered a planet anymore. Homie got demoted.
Also
Sun: ROUND
Moon: ROUND
We're a floating Frisbee đ€Ł
A large amount of flat earthers don't believe in the rest of the universe. They think the sun, earth, and (depending on the person) the moon is all there is.
By her own logic she should be able to see Japan.
CAREFUL OR SHE WILL USE HER SPIRIT BINOCULARS AND PROVE IT! OH MAN I CANT STOP LAUGHING
By their logic about the airplane being left behind when flying, if you jump in an airplane, you'd get left behind
Me
The render distance tho
@@ziggy_is_online5226lmfaooo
This was a great video, refreshing to see two sides to the discussion in one video, thank you
This is extremely sad. I think we may need to stop platforming these people, even to laugh at them. If you told me in any other context, that you believed in a conspiracy that involves millions of people at all levels of every government and educational in and that they are trying to silence you, you're getting 302'd. This is a sickness and these people deserve the help they need.
it's not fair that we torture scientists like this.
@Viper k
@Viper science is not a religion
@Slushie the context of the joke is that we round up scientists and make them debate idiots whilst a camera is rolling
The fact that Shelly thinks sheâs actually intellectual.
Hey isaac Iâm sorry these idiots donât believe in your *proven* thing of gravity
typical Karen
@@kogoromori30 lol
It makes me think Earth is actualy rectangle lol
*Karen
Using the bible as the foundation for your scientific beliefs is simply insane.
The Flat Earthers being the only ones who think the other side is uneducated is so incredibly hilarious to me. And the fact that he says flat earthers are the ones in the field vs their view of scientifists just reading a few books is hilarious considering scientists are the ones in the field while these flat earthers are the ones reading blog posts and some book written 2000 something years ago
I love how shelley literally doesnt know what shes talking about.
haha ikr
Typical Karen
John Leo nah this is a whole new type.
Shelly is on point.
I uSe My P900 aNd ZoOm In On It AnD iTs StIlL tHeRe!
Flat earthers: "ThEy ArE UnEdUcAtEd"
2 minutes later: " I don't get the question'
Lol đ€Ł
lmao
Lolđđđ
shelly is evolved version of karen
Time stamp?
âDonât argue with fools, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experienceâ - unknown.
Not unknown, Mark Twain.
Just like to give you something to contemplate:
My older brother got into many fights through his life;
but he many times said and I quote:âwith children and crazy people I donât fight â end of quote
I donât think the flat earthers understand what a âtheoryâ really is
Exactly. Theory (I think) is the highest distinction a scientific concept can be given, and is proven to be fact and correct as far as data and observation shows.
Such as the theory of gravity?
A lot of people don't unfortunately
We are beyond theory, footage from cams do not lie, (unless its NASA with a curvy lens hahaha
Like the theory is gravity yet EVEYONE Seems to think it's real .lol
Who else clicked on this video knowing that is would piss them off?
Yup. Absolutely.
Iâm half way through and I feel like Iâve sat here for hours
Me
I don't know why I do this to myself haha
me
If Shelly is truly a west point graduate I feel sad for the level of education they are giving.
She wanted to become an astronaut. Then realized itâs just a movie role.
â@@GlobehoaxAnd could not, because her IQ was too low...
Do flat earthers accept that all the other planets are Spherical?
Or that the moons a sphere?
I find it hard to believe that the earth would be flat while the other planets are round.
Flat Earthers don't regard Earth as a planet.
Do they think the earth is a one of a kind?
Surly there would be more of these flat bodies out there.
â @@chrisscanlon2403They belief that there is no outside. They claim that the earth is a closed system, like a little toy snow globe.
@@opelvectra2297 Thanks.
Id say I'm pretty opened minded but to be honest I'm still leaning towards the round earth theory.
I know it has flaws but
It kind of feels like they are making it up as they go along.
I'm sticking until we have better answers.
@@chrisscanlon2403 There are no flaws in the globe earth model.
Could you please name me one example?
ânasa says the earth is flatâ
also them: âdonât trust nasaâ
it's funny because flat earthers believe that the sun is round and all the other planets are round. how come gravity worked differently for the earth. there so uneducated its an insult to the school system.
They never said thatit was flat tho but yeah, you should true nasa
@Stephanie S wtf is that sentence
@@littlechineseladyv2517 nobody knows the shape
All they gotta do is strap a go pro on the next space x rocket that goes up, and have it broadcasted live for everyone to watch. End of debate.
âWhatâs your evidence then?â
âUhhhhh we see too farâ
that about sums it up
I laughed so hard when she said that
Thiago Mattos You donât understand it because youâre not thinking. She means that science tells us that at a certain distance we canât see boats because they are over the âCurvatureâ but sheâs saying that if she has a telescope she can still see the boat and that itâs NOT over a damn âCurvatureâ.
if you listen to her reason why she became a flat earther you can clearly see that her shift in belief was deeply linked to her loss of her husband who had that "truther" mindset, she needs to believe in that idea as it helps her feel as if she is following in her dead husbands foot steps, its an emotional link for her and that's sad. she needs therapy.
Honey Amber I can assure you I completely understand what she is trying to insinuate, it is just funny how she puts it in words, try not to take it so serious.
If you turn the volume off and just watch Shelly you'll assume she's crazy. Turn the volume on and you'll know she's crazy!
âSo show us the flat earth evidenceâ
âWell there IS evidenceâ
âSo show it to us.â
â⊠no.â
Dan's evidence "We've been mislead by mainstream media." Her evidence besides the Bible "I can see an island 60 miles away."
The evidence is globe fakery and nasa lies
â@@GlobeisahoaxWhere is your evidence of NASAs lies? Btw what about all the other space agencies in the world?
@@GlobeisahoaxHey Cletus, thatâs a claim. Learn English.
Flat earther: âAncient civilizations believed that the earth was flatâ
Ancient civilizations: *have human sacrifices for better harvest*
I love being in ap world
How do you know they sacrificed people? You just believe what the government teaches you
Allan Rojas literally carved in walls
@@allanrojas9226 yes, sir. I too am a sacrifice denier
@@pandagmail3505 carved in walls is proof so you dont think som1 would go and draw on the walls?
Their argument was basically âI looked far away onceâ
Uup
That guy didnât account for the fact member the level of the grounded over the lake was different
To be honest though the scientists argument though was basically: âbut we got moon rocksâ Iâm not saying I believe the earth is flat. But I actually expected the scientists to have more to say other than to complain about the flat earthers educational background, and the fact that they believe in god. Plus how could the earth not be created by a higher power? Wether that be god, aliens, or whatever? It was interesting the scientists were atheists they just seamed a little close minded.
Yup
@@philup9864 dude scientists believe in god and try to figure it out when they cannot explain something but the planet was created by God is not a good theory to believe in bcoz we have other logical theories about how solar systems, black holes, planets were created....Actually we are too much INTO GOD...
That was refreshing that even though it got heated at times, at the end they hugged
But it wasnât exactly a tender moment
though was it? A lot of back slapping and long-arm hugs.
"Logical, biblical based and scientific flat earther" - I laughed so hard, I almost rolled off the disc đ€Ł
POV: You watch Physicist Ali trying his best to avoid triple homicide
Dude no joke kinda found Ali to be a bit creepy for some reason
when they said they scientist were uneducated I laughed my ass off
blue shirt kid?
Funny considering where ur fromđ¶jk Iâm not racist
Naruto Uzumaki wait do you mean from the pewdiepie vs tseries video omg
2019: Earth is flat.
2119: *Earth is a pyramid.*
2219:The Earth doesn't exist
@simplicity
2419:The Earth is a now a cylinder
It is though...
2519 the earth is the Illuminati
With this growing trend of ignorance being all the rage, I wouldn't even be that surprised if that were the case!
Notice how the scientists are more polite and respectful.
Still liars
Iâve learned over the years not to try to change peoples mind. No-one can do that but the person itself. Like religion, a person has to be the one to step outside that circle and no-one can do that for them. Let people live out their ignorance. You will be surprised when you start to exercise this. âDo not educate peopleâ
"I'm a critical thinker and I jump out of airplanes"
Weird flex but ok.
Justin Cooper dead meme but ok
Wtf are you even talking about. the two aren't related
sooo...have you noticed the earth's curves...?
Hailey Rafferty calm down flat earther
-I'm a critical thinker
-the bible says the earth is flat, so it must be
Notice, none of the scientists believed these folks to be uneducated.
"The fool doth like himself a wise man, the wise man doth think himself a fool."
yeah, wrongly educated
@David shuffett WTF
Itâs the Dunning-Krueger Effect. The uneducated believe themselves to be very wise, however the wise ones believe that they are ordinary and mediocre.
You know, I was incredibly ashamed that they said that they were a Christian. It shames me incredibly so much.
If I was there and seen that they basically call me uneducated I wouldâve gotten real personal. Cuz thatâs just insulting.
Even though I respect the three scientists, and I love how in so many arguments they prove the flat earthers how wrong they were. I think, that it will be interesting to see flat earthers vs Astronauts. That conversation must be interesting to see. đ
âWhy are you laughing?â
I saw a flat earther calling an astrophysicist uneducated
âIâd like to tear them to piecesâ
Scientists : *look at this clown*
Sir, you are not a clown, you are the entire circus
Flat earthers:You guys are uneducated because you think the earth is a globe
Scientist:We get our information and data from NASA,Astronauts who have been To space and Gravity Where do you get your info??
FlatEarthers: yOuTuBe
And of course he's wearing a vest lol
Funny how when he sat down alone with all three scientists he got absolutely destroyed from three sides
@@hannesp3493 You have no thoughts of your own. You worship light and don't know where your own light comes from. The moon hides herself from you because you don't want to talk to her. You dishonor the great mother as well as your own.
âthey think WE are uneducated?â
-scientists
Depends on your definition. For some people education means blindly accepting and defending facts. For others, it means questioning them
"I'm running"
~Dan
@@meghanachauhan9380 For these flat earthers, it also means blindly accepting religion and what the bible says. Facts don't care about your feelings, and 99 percent of the bible is solely religious, not scientific.
I DIED WHEN I READ THAT
@@Steven-nq7fx DAN THE WATER MAN
I saw the title and thought, "This was great". I challenged myself to look through everyone's eyes and be critical of myself by understanding each point of view. Disappointing direction and performance. Everyone drank a cold water - including me.
Critical thinker=conspiracy theorist. How come no one has ever taken a picture of the side of the earth, or the edge of the earth? How come no one has ever fallen off, or flew over any edge?
"I'm an astrophysicist"
"I'm dan the water man"
Had me dying
I knew this argument was going to be facts v "facts", just wanted to see how it ended
the only man i trust
*Yes* _Im Dan the water Man_
WATERBOY
is he wet tho?
Scientists: have education
Flat eartherâs: I jump off planes
yeah probably landed on his head
@@aniruddhrao3489 *BONK*
how does that even work when you don't belive in gravity? magic?
@@philipvareberg216 bet ya their brains are floating lol
Ya if u get to parachute from that height, shouldnât you technically be able to see some curvature. Lol
I like james the way he grabs my attention is just amazing
Iâll let him know he has a fan!
Wow, I actually survived the whole video. I need to go smoke now.
Many people have to do the same after surviving dementia joe or laughing hyena in WH
@@GlobehoaxOh Cletus, your obsession is still boring.
@@Globehoax what does Joe Biden have to do with flat earth. And who says that Iâm supporting Biden?
@@bl3788 nobody says you supporting Biden. You tripping
@@bl3788 globe and politics are both a circus show. Clowns and puppets everywhere.
Bwahahahahahaha
Sooo basically what she was trying to say was âIâm unemployedâ weâre on to u shelly
Lmao
Haha, exactly!!
She was trying not to, but everyone heard it.
*"juMPeD oFf AirPlANes"*
If only there was a top comment god on CZcams
Iâm losing brain cells just from the thumb nail
Yeah.. the pray vs. the point.... And it's who's channel? Great thumbnail. Great lead in... So everyone can comment all fun stuff. Lmao
Me too. And I'm lovin it.
Kevin Cutter 1kđ
She looks exactly like I would expect a flat earther to look đ
You may want to wait on that comment. We ALL believed it once. What have you got to lose? Either you have more proof of a spinning ball or more questions. We ALL believed it once.
" I can see San Clemente Island from the beach, and its 60miles away". Well, im now convinced. I quote Denis Leary in "The Ref" : "You're husband ain't dead lady... hes hiding!"
That means there is no curvature. We can see objects in a distance
@@Globeisahoaxx Do you see mount everest too?
â ââ @@GlobeisahoaxxHey Cletus, why shouldnât you see objects in a distance? We can see as far as predicted in the globe model. But not so far as possible on a flat earth.
The Dunning-Kruger effect in full force here!!!
What about Biden-Harris effect. A circus show
â@@GlobeisahoaxxWhat is it and what does it has to do with the topic?
@@GlobeisahoaxxHey Cletus, stay on topic. Itâs not that difficult.
âIâd like to tear them to piecesâ
âIâm dan the water manâ
Ahahahahaha
Jajajajaja
Le monke
He haba juju meeeeĂš
Simp Police I respect your line of work
I wish they wouldâve discussed âevidenceâ more
The only comment I have read that I totally agree with.
The video would've ended in 2 mins and that's not something the producers would want. LOL
Lol the scientists straight up asked them and they were just like âwe see too farâ
@@ky4864 yeah lol this is not evidence nor an argument.
bruh the "evidence" was wendell going to a lake and being like "I do not see a curve" lmao
i wish these flat earther's would describe how volcanoes work on a flat earth"
Season also canât happen except on a spinning globe whoâs axis of rotation relative to its sun is tilted.
I am from well established Christian family and i am educationally brought up with science...however in no way we were never taught that the earth was flat
Were you ever taught that the earth is a satanic globe, tilted 23.4 degrees?
If yes, whatâs 90-23.4
@@GlobeishoaxAgain, where does the 90 come from?
It's hard to win an argument against a smart person, but it's impossible to win an argument against an ignorant person
@Hell N Degenerates and you're the perfect example that could describe that quote
@@adealtas Deymmmm chill out man, that's too harshđ
Hell N Degenerates explain how seasons work under a flat theory for me. Like they said, give me some evidence of situations that would NOT occur under the globe earth theory.
@@laurenmartin6259 Perfect. How would anything work with a flat Earth. Seasons, days and the zones.
uzair Hannure well said!đŻ
"i'm a scientific flat earther." and i'm an illiterate who can read
Lmaooođđ
Lmaođ
I know, like bruh do you know what that means
I'm a vegan cannibal....I'm a plant
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I like how Spencer stood up for Ali @11:47.
"All ancient religions point to a flat Earth" she says. I don't know about other religions but the Vedas in Hinduism call the Earth round (like a sphere) and not flat
Greeks too proved that as well. Infact many ancient people did prove it thousands of years before ys
Globe Earther: Iâm a theoretical physicist.
Flat Earther: Iâm Dan the Water Man
Bas kr bhai rulaega kyađ
lmao
Crazy Krish YAHAHAHAHAH
Yeah....
Amit Geismar yeah what?...
The absolute disrespect to Ali pissed me off so much.
yea
I agree, the fact that Wendell made a point that Spencer and James had a good level of education but didn't even acknowledge Ali until he was called out was so disappointing.
I donât get why they treat him like that. Is it because he is not white?
@@bashayeralghamdi9994 thatâs what I was thinking. Just sad
@@bashayeralghamdi9994 yes
Anyone who feels the need to describe themself as a critical thinker probably isnât a critical thinker
" THEY think WE r uneducated?"
- Ali, 2019.
veena vig Ali is the only one that actually is a scientist that studies astrology wtf , if he doesnât know what he talks about I think everyone in that room has a iq of 70 .
Lmao he is literally researching string theory while she is âjumping out of planesâ đđđ
@@evetterochelle7265I think you mean astronomy
Dan is the most stereotypical looking conspiracy theorist ever.
he looks musty
@@noor-qk5kz I bet 100,000 he is.
I know, what a bad ass
@@minseos thanks for weighing in, Einstein
Wendell too
This isnt a conversation about science between opposing ideas. Its a symposium on mental health with willing patients
Pretty much. These globe clowns are def have mental issues. They believe seasons caused by 66.6 degrees tilt
â@@GlobeishoaxNobody believes the Earth tilts 66.6 degrees. Except you, who is constantly writing this nonsense. So who has mental desease her?
The fact that we are having these discussions in the 21st century is astounding
because the time has come to get out of the Middle Ages and their theories, decayed from antiquity and rot, and step into reality.
I agree. These globe clowns are stuck in inquisition times. They believe seasons caused by 66.6 degrees tilt and Australia is upside down at the bottom
@@natalialowen5892 So do it - read some scientific research papers in physics, astrophysics, geodesy etc.
@@Globeisahoaxx What a lier you are! Nobody claims the tilt of the Earth is 66.6 degrees! it is 23.44 degrees. Why are you constantly repeading the satanic number? Are you satanist?
@@Globeisahoaxx when you mention the angle 66.6, you explain where it is - globophiles are uneducated, they donât even know basic mathematics!