Trans Conservatives vs Trans Liberals | Middle Ground

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    0:00 intro
    0:28 It is a safety concern for trans women to share a female restroom
    16:46 I support the transgender military ban
    32:11 Schools should include trans conversation in sex ed
    32:24 It's okay for minors to get top surgery
    45:51 Non-binary should not be considered under the trans umbrella
    59:06 Doctors are manipulating trans medical care
    1:11:07 Gender-affirming transition is suicide prevention
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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  Před 7 měsíci +783

    Unreleased prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/MGpatreon Schools should include trans conversation in Sex Ed -> Agree or Disagree?

    • @Gosh..
      @Gosh.. Před 7 měsíci +101

      Ok

    • @cantwin8105
      @cantwin8105 Před 7 měsíci +614

      Well I think we all know how that convo went lol

    • @zacharythomas8617
      @zacharythomas8617 Před 7 měsíci +979

      Weak representation, shame on you.

    • @luisfilipe2023
      @luisfilipe2023 Před 7 měsíci +213

      I don’t even think sex Ed should be a thing

    • @sirskorge
      @sirskorge Před 7 měsíci +258

      Over my dead body.

  • @boop99
    @boop99 Před 7 měsíci +17121

    "Do not interrupt a black trans woman when she is speaking" Says the person who interrupted everyone else and was always condescending

    • @gunther3274
      @gunther3274 Před 7 měsíci +541

      Talking about privilege 🙄

    • @en2p187
      @en2p187 Před 7 měsíci +255

      Also guys check her history, cnn city hall black transwoman coach blossom interrupts mom and body checks her son in passionate intense speech- that's the title I ain't making it up

    • @snapsf
      @snapsf Před 7 měsíci +51

      Well ironically her and blaire were speaking for years 💀. She was making sense in the very beginning then spiraled.

    • @Fortheloveoforthodoxing
      @Fortheloveoforthodoxing Před 7 měsíci +158

      The entitlement is INSANE

    • @boop99
      @boop99 Před 7 měsíci

      I found the video under the title "Transgender woman makes passionate point at CNN Equality Town Hall." Blossom was certainly annoying but I didn't see anybody body check the kid in the video@@en2p187

  • @desertfairyjewelry
    @desertfairyjewelry Před 7 měsíci +20027

    Blossom thinks people treat her badly because of her skin color, honey it’s YOU. It’s your personality.

  • @luvrsie143
    @luvrsie143 Před měsícem +1507

    "blaire, have you ever worked with trans people?"
    saying it like she's not a trans women herself, absolutely disgusting.

    • @28KM
      @28KM Před měsícem +42

      I actually have a load of respect for Blair’s, even though trans is something that I struggle with personally.

    • @brophwyd
      @brophwyd Před 25 dny +6

      I can't believe I'm agreeing with Blaire White

    • @johnlucas773
      @johnlucas773 Před 25 dny +23

      Being one and working with others whom are, are two different things. I don't believe they were negating her personal experience, but asking if she had worked with others directly who were dealing with issues that she may not be dealing with, in order to have empathy and see the diversity of other people's views and experiences that are not her own, while being of service to others. She may be helping others in a different way, as she expressed, by her content and conversations on her social media platform.

    • @dominiquejenkins5495
      @dominiquejenkins5495 Před 18 dny

      Blair should have said naw 😂

    • @ags5941
      @ags5941 Před 17 dny +9

      Blaire is an intelligent trans person

  • @lunaxlucyxxx3028
    @lunaxlucyxxx3028 Před měsícem +344

    Dropping out of highschool is not the same as getting a BODY CHANGING surgery. U can always go and finish school you cant always change a body modification

    • @MaciBrown-jt9py
      @MaciBrown-jt9py Před 15 dny +6

      THIS.

    • @sandy80334
      @sandy80334 Před 11 dny +3

      I was just thinking this

    • @Katelyn-yj4gm
      @Katelyn-yj4gm Před 8 dny +6

      I was actually yelling this at my phone that comparison was made😵‍💫 I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought it was ridiculous.

    • @dabondahaterz
      @dabondahaterz Před 3 dny

      @@sandy80334LITERALLY!!

    • @Melatonin385
      @Melatonin385 Před 12 hodinami

      THIS!!!! I was a drop out but I went back to school through adult ed at 25 and got my high school diploma. You can always go back to school and finish education but you can't reverse getting a body part cut off.

  • @metalheadfromslovakia
    @metalheadfromslovakia Před 7 měsíci +7457

    Dear Blossom, it’s not your gender, it’s not your race… it’s you

    • @myracarol4114
      @myracarol4114 Před 7 měsíci +240

      Ugh blossom is the absolute worst. Blossom should for everyone's sake please go away, far far away.

    • @truthbearingpsychonaut
      @truthbearingpsychonaut Před 7 měsíci +27

      That's usually what you like to excuse racism as. She got heated and was a bit emotional, but Blaire was the mean witch here.

    • @Witerally_Me
      @Witerally_Me Před 7 měsíci +26

      @@truthbearingpsychonautjubilee shouldn’t be making these videos if they’re just going to platform conservatives and racists.

    • @TwinsBigLikeTia
      @TwinsBigLikeTia Před 7 měsíci

      @@truthbearingpsychonaut Blaire has never been racist 😂 being black just has nothing to do with the debate and topics being discussed. Just pulling another victim card to feed her narcissism. You see it in the libs in all of these debates. Can’t debate with facts and logic so they gotta pull something out to make it about them.

    • @izabellapollock
      @izabellapollock Před 7 měsíci +102

      She’s willfully ignorant and is a bully just to support her own point. Any statistics or valid counter arguments that’s brought up, she denies it. It’s almost gaslighting

  • @liaf525
    @liaf525 Před 7 měsíci +8779

    Awh… I cried at “I choose to use the men’s room to protect women.” The sadness in her voice when she says she knows she doesn’t pass. Protect her at all costs.

    • @NotAdultingToday
      @NotAdultingToday Před 7 měsíci +1243

      To me jessica does pass. Sarah too! There are women who look like that. The non binary dude I absolutely do not want in the women's bathroom. Home is a cross dresser plain and simple.

    • @radubradu
      @radubradu Před 7 měsíci +74

      *him

    • @Seevawonderloaf
      @Seevawonderloaf Před 7 měsíci +673

      She may not pass but bc her attitude gives me ‘this is a woman’ vibes!! And i generally wouldn’t mind sharing a space with someone who is considerate of her bio female counterparts. THESE are the people i went to protests to support

    • @Seevawonderloaf
      @Seevawonderloaf Před 7 měsíci +271

      @@radubraduplease don’t

    • @fritziearago9518
      @fritziearago9518 Před 7 měsíci +274

      If the ''non-binary'' one enter the restroom with me with my little niece here in my hometown , i will definitely walk out. I will be really rude and confront him

  • @snowyhair9300
    @snowyhair9300 Před měsícem +464

    "I'm supposed to refrigerate it?" had me CACKLING

    • @norabloomb
      @norabloomb Před 17 dny +3

      My favorite part of this video

    • @Sammylife
      @Sammylife Před 13 dny +5

      It’s at 26:53

    • @Grape-fruit3
      @Grape-fruit3 Před dnem

      Same! I was howling 😂😂😂 his face was priceless

  • @KingdomThroughSavior96
    @KingdomThroughSavior96 Před měsícem +342

    People like Jessica are the reason I still do respect the trans community. I know the media makes it out to be awful, but trans women like her still exist. She’s willing to suffer consequences because of her lifestyle, instead of bringing women into the equation. It’s a very brave and noble thing to do. And maybe she doesn’t pass physically, but her demeanor and mannerisms are the most beautiful thing. It’s closer to feminism than any costume you can put on. She understands real femininity compared to all the other “passable” ones in this panel.

    • @konohacitizen8079
      @konohacitizen8079 Před měsícem +6

      True

    • @HaileysHealth
      @HaileysHealth Před měsícem +38

      That’s what I thought too!! Jessica is very feminine in nature. Her demeanor. Her body language. Her more gentle and quiet personality. A lot of these trans people are very masculine. Like Blossom.

    • @bri-chimchimcher-ee6955
      @bri-chimchimcher-ee6955 Před 24 dny +23

      ​@@HaileysHealthhonestly, blossoms demeanor made me feel like she hasn't let go of the sense of entitlement that boys grow up surrounded by

    • @cartergomez5390
      @cartergomez5390 Před 23 dny +5

      Is Jessica the one that said she doesn't pass? 😔

    • @whitneyjames3158
      @whitneyjames3158 Před 23 dny +17

      My husband who is not a fan of any part of this subject actually stopped and sat down and watched this. He felt very sad for the tall blonde that kept putting herself down. He spoke up and said she should walk through life as a woman she seems genuine and really is trans.. she's doing her best . Not every woman WOMAN NOT CIS ANYTHING is tiny and beautiful. We come in all packages..

  • @weebofakind2516
    @weebofakind2516 Před 7 měsíci +41605

    As a black person I can say that blossom isn’t treated bad bc of her race or bc she’s trans. ITS YOUR PERSONALITY GURL😂

    • @georginacook1850
      @georginacook1850 Před 7 měsíci +2561

      She’s so entitled and is a bully

    • @snakeladytarot
      @snakeladytarot Před 7 měsíci

      So true. U can tell who became trans and who is trans... Blossom just a play ground bully with boobs. U would rather bully women out our safe spaces than fight your own battles in ur own bathroom.

    • @MsRahfe
      @MsRahfe Před 7 měsíci +1030

      wasn't she already in the last video and a lot of comments found her to be quite annoying? :X why was she invited again?

    • @nashocheese
      @nashocheese Před 7 měsíci +865

      I mean... at 1:19:40 when she's straight up ignoring the entire point of the issue to talk about Black people - and that people need to understand that's where she's coming from... that wasn't the issue being talked about, so why self insert so heavily into it...?
      Hyprocrisy, rudeness, and ignorance is a pretty darn bad cocktail of personality traits.

    • @luluc6867
      @luluc6867 Před 7 měsíci +155

      FACTS 🤣😂

  • @stuff1784
    @stuff1784 Před 7 měsíci +10385

    When Blossom can’t win the victimhood argument based on “I’m trans” she goes into the “I’m black” argument.

    • @dannyhilarious
      @dannyhilarious Před 7 měsíci +490

      From trans-baiting to race-baiting within seconds.

    • @robnzoekravitson
      @robnzoekravitson Před 7 měsíci +348

      Blossom being trans and black, automatically, makes anyone who talks to her privileged and therefore she has struggled a billion times more than anyone in the entire existence of time and space.

    • @treehouse8501
      @treehouse8501 Před 7 měsíci +92

      we call her fart blossom

    • @ManaBunz
      @ManaBunz Před 7 měsíci +115

      This is typical of her interviews. It's ok to share the experience, but when your whole conversation boils down to that point every time, it's redundant and seems off-focus.

    • @robnzoekravitson
      @robnzoekravitson Před 7 měsíci +66

      @@ManaBunz The sad part is Blossom probably went through struggle.
      Her constantly bringing it up, devalues those difficulties and invalidates the strength it probably took to be where she is today.

  • @UTubeSporaticUser
    @UTubeSporaticUser Před měsícem +359

    Blossom and Alexander actually think they won the debate. Lol. Completely delusional

    • @andreaj5067
      @andreaj5067 Před měsícem +12

      Exactly they were both the most delusional and combative

    • @eastjebus6870
      @eastjebus6870 Před 6 dny +5

      was literally a debate between 6 level headed people and 2 delusional people

  • @deborahlazreug8735
    @deborahlazreug8735 Před měsícem +550

    That’s a genuine question: I don’t understand how a non-binary person can also be trans? To be trans, literally, you have to have a binary vision of gender identity, no?

    • @ninashafiee3547
      @ninashafiee3547 Před měsícem

      non-binary ppl aren’t cis and therefore they also fall under the trans umbrella.

    • @deboraluz251
      @deboraluz251 Před měsícem +90

      Yes, and thats why does not make any sense

    • @DisorderlyVoid
      @DisorderlyVoid Před 27 dny

      A lot of people identify trans as "not identifying with the sex you were born"

    • @youdontneedtoreadthis
      @youdontneedtoreadthis Před 26 dny +58

      Exactly. Non-binary is not trans by any definition.

    • @leannebrown02
      @leannebrown02 Před 25 dny

      No, "transgender" simply means that you don't identify with the gender that you were assigned by society at your birth. Non-binary people were not perceived as non-binary at birth which means they are transgender, not cisgender. You can specify binary trans people if need be depending on the context.

  • @DaVinci-wt6dp
    @DaVinci-wt6dp Před 7 měsíci +14885

    As a liberal, this was definitely embarrassing for the trans liberals. Ya'll literally said nothing persuasive, it was all just subjective, personal arguments or just straight up incoherent.

    • @Avo_o
      @Avo_o Před 7 měsíci +762

      Sameee. It was more personal attacks than actual personal stories.

    • @meg_khaaan2743
      @meg_khaaan2743 Před 7 měsíci +658

      It would have been waaay more embarrassing if they hadn’t edited out much of the threats and screaming.

    • @Princessanafpd
      @Princessanafpd Před 7 měsíci +320

      Yesssss, especially the on in black with glasses that looked down at all times lol every time he spoke in that raspy voice he tried to sound smart but all those big words meant nothing together 😅

    • @LiberalsRuinEverything.
      @LiberalsRuinEverything. Před 7 měsíci +293

      But this is how they’ve always been lol this is why most normal people despise the liberal LGBTQ movement. They don’t have a problem with conservative trans people like Blair white though.

    • @fartmnms
      @fartmnms Před 7 měsíci +31

      ​@@PrincessanafpdShane I think is his name, true but I do think he has a point. Top surgery for 16+ year olds should be ok. I mean you can learn to drive at 16 so why not be able to remove your breast if you believe it will damage your body.
      There are plenty of other ways to feed a baby were they to have a child

  • @dararupert7199
    @dararupert7199 Před 6 měsíci +6288

    The fact they wouldn't let Sara speak for so long during the military discussion was unacceptable. She had the actual experience.

    • @CassieBear1989
      @CassieBear1989 Před 6 měsíci +598

      I liked how Blair stopped and said that Sara should've talked first about the military debate bc of her experience in the military

    • @DocBree13
      @DocBree13 Před 6 měsíci +28

      I agree!

    • @susanna8612
      @susanna8612 Před 5 měsíci +50

      She is also smart

    • @brians1793
      @brians1793 Před 5 měsíci +59

      That's probably why they didn't want her to speak on it.

    • @beatriceyup8541
      @beatriceyup8541 Před 5 měsíci +40

      So frustrating that they won't let her speak. Someone who was in the military.

  • @lunaxlucyxxx3028
    @lunaxlucyxxx3028 Před měsícem +140

    Alexander came in LOOKING for a fight, Blair looks away and ur like "look at me!!" Like she doesn't OWE you attention. 😂

  • @allisonnicole7311
    @allisonnicole7311 Před měsícem +161

    Sara was the most respectful and educated in this group in my opinion. Hats off to you Miss!

  • @calvin624
    @calvin624 Před 7 měsíci +6793

    Using your race as an excuse to be a belligerent narcissist is a new low. She should transition into being a better person.

  • @ijustwannabehappier-v4973
    @ijustwannabehappier-v4973 Před 7 měsíci +21075

    As a black person im so embarrassed by Blossom bringing up the race card out of nowhere, and accusing everyone of white privilege.

    • @Mysteriuminiquitatis1998
      @Mysteriuminiquitatis1998 Před 7 měsíci +1457

      Don’t be embarrassed. Just because one black person does something does not mean it represents us all. Blossom is not my representative nor are they yours. We as individuals represent ourselves

    • @halo218813
      @halo218813 Před 7 měsíci +297

      @@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998 so very well said ❤

    • @cashcorleone2469
      @cashcorleone2469 Před 7 měsíci +419

      I was embarrassed the 1st 5 times... after that I was just annoyed 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @moldbrain660
      @moldbrain660 Před 7 měsíci +221

      She really is making her community’s look like crap

    • @joshcagle2395
      @joshcagle2395 Před 7 měsíci +273

      You shouldn't be embarrassed. Blossom doesn't speak for you or all black people. She's out for herself.

  • @katelynmick2452
    @katelynmick2452 Před měsícem +334

    Sara and Blair are the only two that can have a productive discussion

    • @trgmama6615
      @trgmama6615 Před měsícem +46

      And jessica

    • @andrewbui8295
      @andrewbui8295 Před 23 dny +21

      and Andrew

    • @amethystdc9562
      @amethystdc9562 Před 21 dnem +4

      And some others as well💯

    • @streamingservices2469
      @streamingservices2469 Před 4 dny +4

      They were by far the two most intelligent on the panel. Give credit to Jessica, Andrew and Sasha. The other three liberals (Blossom, Alexander and Shane) were embarrassing af.

  • @rubinchavarria7173
    @rubinchavarria7173 Před měsícem +43

    The Liberals in this video were absolutely insufferable . The non binary dude shouldn’t be here , Sasha was just some random LA kid that said “Like” , “vibe” , and “I feel like” wayyy too much , Blossom was an absolute embarrassment , and then that last dude was just arrogant and provided nothing but air without substance.

  • @mayamartinez5805
    @mayamartinez5805 Před 7 měsíci +32930

    You can tell who is here to talk about the safety of the trans community and who is here for the safety of their feelings.

  • @del7920
    @del7920 Před 7 měsíci +11297

    How dare you cut out the part where Blossom is screaming at Blair White with the director not letting Blair defend herself? She keeps screaming over and over again about Blair’s “whiteness” being an attack on Blossom’s blackness. That’s disgusting Jubilee. Shame on you.

    • @Deletedspidey1999
      @Deletedspidey1999 Před 7 měsíci +134

      They showed this in the patreon cut?

    • @e11anora
      @e11anora Před 7 měsíci +77

      where can you find the uncut bit?

    • @jannahnas
      @jannahnas Před 7 měsíci +684

      ​@@Deletedspidey1999blaire talked about it on her channel

    • @elenabob4953
      @elenabob4953 Před 7 měsíci +1150

      I don't care olif Blair talked about it on their own channel, the fact that Jubilee cut this part to defend the other side had NO EXCUSE.
      If they react like this in public when filmed, how I can feel safe with them in our spaces?

    • @VeroLaRemix
      @VeroLaRemix Před 7 měsíci +692

      ​@Deletedspidey1999 there are plenty of people who cannot afford to see the unedited cut. It's pretty disgusting that a company that is liberal that wants to acknowledge its privileges is using a pay platform to protect someone's vile behavior.

  • @hopx9071
    @hopx9071 Před 9 dny +20

    The conversation was so heated and the random "I'm Suppost to refrigerate it?" was funny to me

  • @CaritheEntertainer
    @CaritheEntertainer Před měsícem +60

    The fact that they have me on the conservatives side for most of this video is APPALLING

    • @ShrewdPlacebo98
      @ShrewdPlacebo98 Před 5 hodinami +1

      Nah just means you can’t think for yourself

  • @hannahpeden4264
    @hannahpeden4264 Před 7 měsíci +13258

    I literally hate that Blossom can interrupt anyone but no one can interrupt her

    • @keri1364
      @keri1364 Před 7 měsíci +753

      And the “moderators” let it happen. I actually couldn’t finish this garbage “debate”

    • @Jeskers18
      @Jeskers18 Před 7 měsíci +512

      You mean him. He does not give off any feminine energy

    • @GypsyInTheHood
      @GypsyInTheHood Před 7 měsíci +290

      Total narcissist

    • @GirlBehindACamera
      @GirlBehindACamera Před 7 měsíci +370

      I wouldn't feel comfortable with "blossom" using the female bathroom.

    • @Zanakiller123
      @Zanakiller123 Před 7 měsíci +245

      She’s Black !!! Let her speak !!! She’s so oppressed she went to the White House !!! Can’t u see ??

  • @hannahloumen2241
    @hannahloumen2241 Před 7 měsíci +5277

    Rule number one: If you want to be respected, show respect to other people.

    • @dolfincetekege6108
      @dolfincetekege6108 Před 7 měsíci +3

      It is not possible.

    • @seekerandthinker
      @seekerandthinker Před 7 měsíci

      The problem is, both Blossom and Alexander's definition of respect is messed up, it doesn't align with reality, and when we speak facts, it comes out as rude and disrespectful, but fact should be spoken openly.
      Liberals are re-inventing and re-define words to make it meaningless. What is a woman anyway? Anyone who identify as a woman? Ah yes the floor is made of floor

    • @schiffer2386
      @schiffer2386 Před 7 měsíci +18

      Some people don't show you respect even when you respect them. If they don't respect you, don't show respect back

    • @frickfrack7075
      @frickfrack7075 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@schiffer2386that was OPs point...

    • @schiffer2386
      @schiffer2386 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@frickfrack7075 not really cause that doesn't always work

  • @Jolly9111
    @Jolly9111 Před měsícem +205

    I love how they all occasionally look at Blaire for any kind of affirmation, especially liberals

    • @BladeoftheSamurott
      @BladeoftheSamurott Před měsícem +11

      I legit noticed the same thing 😅

    • @thegohmez6816
      @thegohmez6816 Před 25 dny +6

      Which is wild because the last person I would need any affirmation from is Blair. She’s a loon.

    • @sihanbule
      @sihanbule Před 19 dny

      @@thegohmez6816 Blaire is anything but a loon

    • @BizQAC
      @BizQAC Před 15 dny +20

      @@thegohmez6816Blair is gorgeous. She’s considerate as well which I love. She tries to see the world from women’s lense. Yes a dude in a dress is scary af in a bathroom and I’d 100% call the cops. You can like it or not, see yourself this way or not, from my vantage unless you appear as a woman if you’re appearing as male you’re a safety threat . can’t take risks where children are vulnerable. Safety is key. Just because you see yourself as a woman doesn’t mean anyone else does.

    • @Wharritdo
      @Wharritdo Před 15 dny

      I think they were just counting on her to check blossom bc she was the only one who could truly check her

  • @jadeduran-smith3421
    @jadeduran-smith3421 Před 29 dny +48

    I feel like nonbinary people should have their own video bc they have very different issues and pov’s

  • @bokangphelane
    @bokangphelane Před 7 měsíci +5778

    As a black person i really cringe when black people use race to excuse their bad behaviour and double standards. "Don't interrupt a black trans woman" but she's been interrupting everyone

    • @An3moLexi
      @An3moLexi Před 7 měsíci +70

      factsss me too

    • @yonce2347
      @yonce2347 Před 7 měsíci +106

      aS a BlAck peRsoN, I cringe when a "black" person need to specify their race to say something about black people.

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 Před 7 měsíci +196

      @@yonce2347 I don’t, because a lot of these lunatics will jump on you if you’re not black speaking about a black issue.

    • @hinachan70
      @hinachan70 Před 7 měsíci +72

      ​@@yonce2347People will then question if you're black, as in "allowed" to speak about the issue, if you don't state your race on certain topics. Why? Because first of all I'm behind a keyboard so you can't see my skin color. Second, we shouldn't even be asking race but here we are. Read the room, friend. Look at how people behave before you complain about precautions that have to be taken to avoid a heated argument.

    • @yonce2347
      @yonce2347 Před 7 měsíci +12

      @@hinachan70 If you don’t feel like it’s to okay to say something if you were white, why do you think it’s okay to say it if you’re black? Is that not Blossom’s issue? It ends up making you sound even more pathetic, especially to black people.

  • @Planck944
    @Planck944 Před 7 měsíci +6247

    Jubilee allowing bullying on set is absolutely unacceptable

    • @lahaza6515
      @lahaza6515 Před 7 měsíci +519

      They call it debate, but you can best believe their agenda comes first.

    • @kellybuzby4752
      @kellybuzby4752 Před 7 měsíci +642

      Yup that non binary and blossom were unhinged

    • @SGN30
      @SGN30 Před 7 měsíci +105

      ​@@kellybuzby4752"that non binary"

    • @user-bz7qg5xw6h
      @user-bz7qg5xw6h Před 7 měsíci +304

      @@SGN30 Or, that ''waste of inclusionary space'' fit better for you? Or would you prefer dismantler of trans rights?

    • @autumnasbridge8691
      @autumnasbridge8691 Před 7 měsíci +161

      Ngl I want Blaire to bully me

  • @aaronanshu
    @aaronanshu Před 20 dny +24

    The clown can call Blaire offensive but when she calls him offensive, suddenly Blaire is offensive?
    It's these people who are ruining the community.

  • @Cassie_KJ
    @Cassie_KJ Před měsícem +81

    Yall edited parts out. We all know you did.

    • @carlostorres6114
      @carlostorres6114 Před měsícem

      They didn’t. I was there. This was most of it but silence.

    • @Cassie_KJ
      @Cassie_KJ Před měsícem +17

      ​@@carlostorres6114 You expect me to believe a guy with 4 subs, who plays roblox, and who's name never got mentioned in this video was actually there? Stop being an attention seeker

    • @carlostorres6114
      @carlostorres6114 Před měsícem

      @@Cassie_KJ lol this is a burn account. You’re letting the characteristics of a CZcams account formulate your opinion. Idc if you believe or not only silence was filtered out.

    • @Cassie_KJ
      @Cassie_KJ Před měsícem +8

      @@carlostorres6114 I watched your playlists, read your bio, you joined 9 years ago. I can tell you are still a minor, sweetheart. You do not scare me and you do not convince me of anything. They cut parts of Blair out. You have no evidence you were there. So ok lets play your game, where were you? Which one is you?

    • @eric9061
      @eric9061 Před 19 dny +6

      Even with the heavy editing, the liberals looked like clowns ☠️

  • @hearts16
    @hearts16 Před 7 měsíci +4022

    Blaire was on point when she pointed out that if trans ppl are 1% of the population and want to be heard and not disregarded, why do they totally disregard the 1% of detransitioners?
    Valid point!

    • @gimygaming8655
      @gimygaming8655 Před 7 měsíci +34

      Agreed!

    • @punkrockresume
      @punkrockresume Před 7 měsíci +321

      My favorite argument of the whole debate. Always so quick to invalidate detransitioners experience while screaming that everyone is invalidating theirs. It's the hypocrisy for me

    • @chinita1pr
      @chinita1pr Před 7 měsíci +60

      I had never thought about that until she said it. Very insightful.

    • @sakasusuk
      @sakasusuk Před 7 měsíci +54

      And then they used the excuse of ‘Well if happens’. Like BRO it happened in ur community and you just glossed it over as its some kind of ‘mistake’. I dont mind them being protective of the community but like why is it that they dont give the same energy with thr detransitioners

    • @ressesdave2250
      @ressesdave2250 Před 7 měsíci

      Cause trans people are not harming the 99% of cis people. And trans people do feel for detransitioners but they are not gonna allow something to harm the 99% of trans people to save 1% of detransitioners. There are ways to help detransitioners without harming trans people. Alot of these detransitioners did not follow the correct wpath guidelines and went to bad doctors. But if a doctor commits malpractice you go after the doctor u don't go after the surgery that helps people.

  • @ToniOne03
    @ToniOne03 Před 7 měsíci +4372

    Why are they asking Blair if she ever took care of a homeless transgender person before? This is ridiculous.

    • @swooningtree
      @swooningtree Před 7 měsíci +351

      That part was like a comedy sketch. So un-self aware

    • @xthruxglassx
      @xthruxglassx Před 7 měsíci +210

      Innit! It's like asking a pediatrician have they ever gone and taught in a school because otherwise they aren't helping children. It's the anger at her social media presence that they go for the attack because she is not 100% victimising herself to fit the narrative of "prioritise the trans community rights, or else its bigotry"

    • @GenVee
      @GenVee Před 7 měsíci +87

      It's ridiculous...there are people that help homeless people in general...trans aren't special.

    • @justdont2378
      @justdont2378 Před 7 měsíci +20

      They were waiting for that the moment they heard she was gonna be in the debate.

    • @Matvakia
      @Matvakia Před 7 měsíci +33

      being an influencer and talking about trans stuff is not social work, social work is social work

  • @chloetavares8652
    @chloetavares8652 Před měsícem +152

    I could not agree more with the trans conservative side of this debate. As a woman, Blaire made me feel very seen and heard and it’s amazing how she’s standing up for women having a human lens and not just a trans lens.

  • @brandonpassannante2426
    @brandonpassannante2426 Před 16 dny +24

    "Let's not underestimate the power of these kids today", sounds like it comes from the same vine as, "You're so mature for your age".

  • @jinnieneutron7572
    @jinnieneutron7572 Před 7 měsíci +8061

    i’m not even conservative but this was CRAZY. The liberals were so aggressive 💀

    • @sangi0684
      @sangi0684 Před 7 měsíci +84

      same

    • @kkthomas6864
      @kkthomas6864 Před 7 měsíci

      They usually are aggressive! Look at all the crazies protesting in NYC against Israel. The LGBT community is siding with Palestine and they must have forgot Muslims are anti-gay BIGTIME and Israel is welcoming/accepting!

    • @coltonc8894
      @coltonc8894 Před 7 měsíci +447

      Seriously.. all feral for no reason lmao.. like we’re adults , let’s act like it and have actual debates that aren’t toxic

    • @malivolusj3110
      @malivolusj3110 Před 7 měsíci +296

      Time to switch over? We have cookies.

    • @Anne_Onymous
      @Anne_Onymous Před 7 měsíci +59

      What's new?

  • @NineEyes97
    @NineEyes97 Před 7 měsíci +5564

    Crazy how Blossom wants trans people to be safe but thinks it’s ok to openly threaten Blair with violence, “the bodyguards are outside, keep it real cute”, in a debate.

    • @heidinguyenphuoc7911
      @heidinguyenphuoc7911 Před 7 měsíci +561

      its also funny bc blossom said that she didnt threaten blaire (on her ig) and im like.....more than a million ppl heard u said that u had bodyguards waiting outside for her...like....is she fr

    • @johnsmith-dx2ql
      @johnsmith-dx2ql Před 7 měsíci +245

      very lady like behavior

    • @cultytalk
      @cultytalk Před 7 měsíci +102

      A FULL RIDE thru Med School - Vocabulary, Mentality & Attitude of a 5th grade BULLY 👎👎👎 SAD & disturbing to watch!! PLEASE tell me she is not an actual physician that works with PEOPLE! 🙏

    • @Viewable11
      @Viewable11 Před 7 měsíci +41

      This happened at 29:30

    • @lependu403
      @lependu403 Před 7 měsíci +65

      ​@@heidinguyenphuoc7911 I think she was talking about Blaire's friend she brought being her bodyguard, but I think he just came to be supportive. He wasnt being paid to protect her or anything.
      Regardless, Blossom was implying violence when she mentioned the body guard - like he was the only reason she wasn't going to get violent.

  • @courtneysdani
    @courtneysdani Před měsícem +286

    I’m a lesbian and I find it a little baffling that some of them were talking about how they don’t feel safe which is why they want to use the female bathroom, but they don’t give a crap about the women and children who don’t feel safe with trans women in the bathroom. They’re just thinking about themselves and want everyone else to adapt. I’m a petite woman and can’t fend off men how some of these trans women would be able to, let alone poor children.

    • @kahp1072
      @kahp1072 Před měsícem +26

      Exactly, it boils down to their own feelings. They don't give a crap about anyone.

    • @Baasudei
      @Baasudei Před měsícem

      So, since I absolutely cannot fend most men, do I get a pass? How does this logic work?

    • @courtneysdani
      @courtneysdani Před měsícem +17

      @@Baasudei That becomes your problem if you decide to transition. It should not now become everyone’s problems. And kids especially cannot defend themselves. It’s selfish!!!

    • @Baasudei
      @Baasudei Před měsícem

      @@courtneysdani Girl what are you on.
      I would think that the best case scenario is that no one is in danger, correct? So why is it expected that I do so? Clearly OP did not agree as she brought up the potential to fight back.
      No idea what kids have to do with this. I'm a danger to kids because I, like any human, happen to have to pee? That doesn't sound very logical.

    • @user-fz9ki7wt1o
      @user-fz9ki7wt1o Před měsícem

      What you do in the sack is your problem and should be in your private bedroom not in our face day after day and that goes for all of lgbtqa and other

  • @cartergirl3of3
    @cartergirl3of3 Před měsícem +43

    Sara is so based. She came ready to roll with all the knowledge

  • @nicolemarie8746
    @nicolemarie8746 Před 7 měsíci +1937

    Can we please ban Blossom from these debates? Brings no value and all she does is play victim.

    • @deusdex1186
      @deusdex1186 Před 7 měsíci +88

      As well as screeching over everyone else and dominating the conversation.

    • @lukalyx
      @lukalyx Před 7 měsíci

      Can we ban CIS people like you from commenting??? please?? how does this really affect you. Let TRANS people speak.

    • @Jinxypoo100
      @Jinxypoo100 Před 7 měsíci +26

      She just starts drama

    • @janetuss6496
      @janetuss6496 Před 7 měsíci

      She seems very mentally unstable and should be in a mental hospital instead of given a platform to spout nonsense

    • @gldnkltz101
      @gldnkltz101 Před 7 měsíci +16

      Blaire and Blossom both detracted from the civility.

  • @StanChunghaOrGoHome
    @StanChunghaOrGoHome Před 7 měsíci +3302

    Blossom uses the “I’m a black trans person” as a way to say “I’m the biggest victim out of all of you therefore my point is the only valid one”. Which is an obnoxious mentality to have.

    • @StAlchemyst
      @StAlchemyst Před 7 měsíci +190

      Blossom has been to the White House, and given a free ride through med school. If anyone has had any REAL privilege it's her.

    • @SpectreBagels
      @SpectreBagels Před 7 měsíci +39

      Specifically a racist mindset to have

    • @xander_k_
      @xander_k_ Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@mynameisraybeing mixed only really affects you if you physically look like your non white race.

    • @IdkFoxii
      @IdkFoxii Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@mynameisraywhat is she mixed with

    • @Sadlittlecloud
      @Sadlittlecloud Před 7 měsíci

      @@mynameisrayshe definitely looks Latina IMO but yes race shouldn’t matter and it has 0 place in this debate

  • @janellywelly777
    @janellywelly777 Před měsícem +40

    You see how one side is more so presenting their arguments with emotion rather than logic and reasoning.

  • @Rendoku25
    @Rendoku25 Před 7 měsíci +5570

    Jubilee needs to hire some actual neutral mediators for these debates. They way they go now, especially this one, is NOT a debate. It’s bullying and incredible rude.

    • @BringBackStoning
      @BringBackStoning Před 7 měsíci +222

      I agree. Shouting and insult matches dont get us no where. They should definitely start doing this

    • @Biancanon
      @Biancanon Před 7 měsíci +116

      they need to hire someone else to edit these....

    • @Sabrinatw
      @Sabrinatw Před 7 měsíci +189

      Lol they also need to hire real editors. They don’t cut things out from the truth. They also need to hire real therapist to get some of these people help that they desperately need. Also security to take care of the cowards that threatened to cause physical harm to the other guest.

    • @carla.c
      @carla.c Před 7 měsíci +104

      I would like for people to actually finish their points before another person starts talking. So annoying.

    • @Sabrinatw
      @Sabrinatw Před 7 měsíci

      @@carla.c exactly, but unfortunately woke people don’t have respect or common sense. They always have to argue if someone disagrees and have to physically or mentally harm someone.

  • @udkmeeee
    @udkmeeee Před 7 měsíci +5448

    blossom using her trans-ness and skin color to make her voice heard over others and use it as an excuse to interrupt others while ridiculing others for interrupting her is absolutely disgusting

    • @oooon222
      @oooon222 Před 7 měsíci +139

      The worst part is that it must have worked for her in the past

    • @dianarug4662
      @dianarug4662 Před 7 měsíci +33

      @@oooon222 yep. how disappointing.

    • @wednesdayaddams7066
      @wednesdayaddams7066 Před 7 měsíci +83

      It's people like blossom that are the reason we will never see change or be taken seriously.

    • @Phoney.Baloney
      @Phoney.Baloney Před 7 měsíci +18

      He couldn’t be anymore liberal

    • @deusdex1186
      @deusdex1186 Před 7 měsíci

      @@oooon222 The dude is obviously used to terrorising weak progressives into white guilt paralysis.

  • @vaioboy1410
    @vaioboy1410 Před měsícem +44

    The dude in yellow hate CLEARLY has a chip of Blaire on his shoulder 🤣

  • @AliyahDaniels27
    @AliyahDaniels27 Před měsícem +98

    Blossom is EMBARRASSING….. using race to justify your nasty attitude and behavior is NASTY WORK‼️
    Blair LOVEEEEEEE HER

  • @iggyigz4229
    @iggyigz4229 Před 7 měsíci +4852

    Imagine being so privileged that you can actually say "don't interrupt a black trans person" and expect that everyone will stop interrupting you

    • @dharmainitiative9152
      @dharmainitiative9152 Před 7 měsíci +228

      Because she is the most oppressed, didn’t you get the memo? 😆

    • @reheatthepasta9545
      @reheatthepasta9545 Před 7 měsíci +67

      I feel as though that usually flies in their own echo chamber but the common sense portion of the world doesn’t exist there so when we see it the cringe and “wtf” thoughts form.

    • @kaygee2121
      @kaygee2121 Před 7 měsíci +60

      Word. Literal entitlement.

    • @AJManol
      @AJManol Před 7 měsíci +24

      But people DO cowtow to her. Everyone is afraid of being cancelled or thought of as a "bigot". (Pot calling the kettle black, much?)

    • @grace.charlie
      @grace.charlie Před 7 měsíci

      Blossom and the rest of the libs are ruining it for themselves and aren’t even realizing it

  • @IslandVibez_Virgo
    @IslandVibez_Virgo Před 7 měsíci +3242

    As a black person I’m so tired of ppl bringing race into an argument that has nothing to do with race as a deflection tactic 🙄

    • @demondbrooks568
      @demondbrooks568 Před 7 měsíci

      Trying to be a victim and bully in the same breath....disingenuous....she knows she can get away with that shyt around white people....did you see her CNN clip?

    • @YAHWEH_TSIDKENU
      @YAHWEH_TSIDKENU Před 7 měsíci +25

      So true. We gotta take accountability

    • @xatusound3637
      @xatusound3637 Před 7 měsíci

      "as a black person" you hate when people bring up race? but you just did the same thing? Why is it ok when you use race to qualify and distance yourself, but she can't use it to empower? make it make sense please.

    • @aplaowattanakul7760
      @aplaowattanakul7760 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Some black people said asking about gender is racist.

    • @gene5021
      @gene5021 Před 7 měsíci +7

      ​@@aplaowattanakul7760no that was a white person. 😂😂. They said if they got asked their gender it would be racist

  • @reed3312
    @reed3312 Před 22 dny +21

    Alexander never answered the question "what is your dysphoria?"

  • @ashleyanderson6741
    @ashleyanderson6741 Před měsícem +29

    "Wait I'm supposed refrigerate it?" -I love him

  • @alexis_daydream333
    @alexis_daydream333 Před 7 měsíci +6326

    I burst into laughter when she pulled the "trans black woman" card. That's hysterical. Literally no one brought up race at all. It's so extra.

  • @VIZIONARYxx
    @VIZIONARYxx Před 7 měsíci +2624

    As A Biological Black woman I will say that Blossom does not represent us in ANY regard. Not everything is about race. Truly an embarrasment.

  • @agenteespecialcabogema9090
    @agenteespecialcabogema9090 Před měsícem +13

    Blossom's whole personality is: I suffer cause I am a black Trans woman, when she is actually a Privileged trans woman, this video shows that the production was on a side the whole time and not on the truth side

  • @Lucy_chan
    @Lucy_chan Před měsícem +25

    “Me as non-binary person”… Wait a sec, I thought it was trans debate 😅

    • @maranocna2530
      @maranocna2530 Před měsícem +8

      The term trans means that someone is not identifying with the gender they were assigned at birth, so it does include binary trans people (mtf and ftm) AND non-binary people (people who don't feel like men or women, so they do not identify with the gender they were assigned at birth)

  • @jerryligairi1078
    @jerryligairi1078 Před 4 měsíci +1971

    Trying to argue over the veteran trans woman about trans people in the military is HILARIOUS

    • @zkart8038
      @zkart8038 Před 4 měsíci +67

      That too by someone who also never transitioned.

    • @streamingservices2469
      @streamingservices2469 Před 3 měsíci +1

      That’s what I’m saying. 😂😂😂Props to Sasha also for being willing to listen to the conservatives great points, unlike his shitty team of idiots

    • @mrunknown7710
      @mrunknown7710 Před 3 měsíci +8

      😂😂

    • @BizQAC
      @BizQAC Před 15 dny

      Like the trans women that argue with women about being a woman. The entire identity for some is based on delusion.

  • @lida4747
    @lida4747 Před 7 měsíci +2264

    The way he respectfully said “Don’t come for my privilege, I was raised by drug addicts, I have HIV.” 👏🏻

    • @deliadiaz3105
      @deliadiaz3105 Před 7 měsíci +10

      But we have to remember “she’s a black trans woman” so no one has it worse than her.🙄

    • @zemlya378
      @zemlya378 Před 7 měsíci +86

      Agreed. I know many black people who have far provides that I could possibly imagine

    • @user-js6yq4hr1n
      @user-js6yq4hr1n Před 7 měsíci +493

      I literally teared up. Blossom assuming every white person is privileged IS RACISM.

    • @scofieldsc3017
      @scofieldsc3017 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Timestamp?

    • @maackia_5581
      @maackia_5581 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Timestamp pls

  • @genellecampbell3968
    @genellecampbell3968 Před měsícem +33

    This was a horribly done “debate”.

  • @DaphneGauthier
    @DaphneGauthier Před 23 dny +20

    If young women in their 20s/30s cannot have their Uterus remove because they can change their minds on having kids, it should not be allowed either to have sugery when minor. The same reasons apply. Maybe its a stretch but its still a choice and it still a surgery and still our bodies...

    • @lialia2268
      @lialia2268 Před 21 dnem +1

      That was actually a great point. My mom wanted to get her tubes tied after she had my brother around 20, the doctor asked her to take a little time and think about it. She was so great full for that because if he would’ve did it, she never would’ve had her daughter (me). She’s very grateful for that analysis

    • @DaphneGauthier
      @DaphneGauthier Před 21 dnem +1

      @@lialia2268 exactly! I dont think it should be the same age! But at least to be major to choose that’s all. Doesnt change the fact that some could regret it after but it surely helps on some points 🤷‍♀️

    • @lialia2268
      @lialia2268 Před 21 dnem

      @@DaphneGauthier I most definitely agree. No child should be able to make such a dire decision

  • @chu9573
    @chu9573 Před 4 měsíci +3783

    For someone who hates being interrupted, Blossom sure does love to talk over people. Loudly at that.

  • @ezk3002
    @ezk3002 Před 4 měsíci +2611

    Blossom out here talking about how transwomen should be safe and look out for each other but then threatening a transwoman 💀

    • @jjtrejo4125
      @jjtrejo4125 Před 3 měsíci +57

      yup. it's called ✨entitled✨

    • @PrettyBaby293
      @PrettyBaby293 Před 3 měsíci +39

      @@jjtrejo4125it’s called ✨innate behavior✨ blossom is just doing what biological men are programmed to do..be territorial and aggressive lmao

    • @sad_vegan507
      @sad_vegan507 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Blossom is the most privileged out of everyone

    • @CatBahptista
      @CatBahptista Před 3 měsíci +1

      With that big ole linebacker 6 foot 6 body or however tall “she” is 💀 gtfoh

    • @vw4822
      @vw4822 Před 3 měsíci +10

      And doesn't give a sh*t about sis women. I'm not sure any woman would be comfortable around Blossom who is extremely aggressive.

  • @hayatij4965
    @hayatij4965 Před měsícem +15

    I'm glad Sara was there. She explained things very calmly and, above all, objectively. She was a real asset. While the non-binary person was actually really rude, I think. I mean, you don't have to like each other, but calling people disgusting is just not ok

  • @amandamartinez4508
    @amandamartinez4508 Před měsícem +33

    I have allot of respect for conservative trans people for going against the narrative.

    • @BizQAC
      @BizQAC Před 15 dny

      Yes, these are trans women I would be cool being around, the liberal ones I’d be afraid of at least the ones trying to be women. They’re still very masculine and it’s a bit too much for me.

    • @paradisemeadow8999
      @paradisemeadow8999 Před 3 dny

      I agree

  • @joyq1579
    @joyq1579 Před 5 měsíci +2792

    As somebody who's pretty liberal..I was EMBARRASSED. They didn't win any arguments, just derailed valid points. Blossom really thought she ate by bringing her race into this 😭

    • @kellyperry559
      @kellyperry559 Před 4 měsíci +52

      Were you actually surprised that he brought race into it?

    • @reinexalumina9925
      @reinexalumina9925 Před 4 měsíci +77

      I mean, that's how most "liberals" talk on the internet and in the West, so I wasn't surprised. It's the woke culture.
      My family is pretty liberal, but I turned conservative because there are far too many extremist "liberals" nowadays. The scream for "tolerance" but can't even tolerate that some people have different ideas that don't agree with them.
      The only liberals I am thankful for are real liberals whom I can actually have normal conversations with and don't have to always walk on eggshells.
      People don't always have to agree on things. What matters is how we treat each other and not just call people "Bigots" every time they disagree with you.

    • @shadowyzephyr
      @shadowyzephyr Před 4 měsíci

      As a liberal, there are a subset of liberals who try to bring race into everything, and it's really annoying.

    • @idk-mz3ys
      @idk-mz3ys Před 4 měsíci +29

      yeah, same. I think Shane was the only liberal who raised strong, supported arguments against the conservative side, he didn't really get any help from the other liberals tho. I think Blossom was actively hurting the liberal side the whole time by, making herself the Liberal stereotype

    • @joyq1579
      @joyq1579 Před 4 měsíci +38

      @@idk-mz3ys I liked Shane until I found out he went on a podcast with Blossom to talk about how they "won" the debate 😭 I thought this was a channel to reach a middle ground, not arguing.

  • @daniellelsogb
    @daniellelsogb Před 7 měsíci +2970

    The fact that the "non binary" person on the panel questioned more than once "whats the obsession with other people's kids" is a point blank representation of how egocentric and apathetic he is towards other people he cant relate to. Children MUST BE PROTECTED. If I see a child being abused in ANY capacity I WILL speak up. I will never turn a blind eye to children suffering abuse or manipulation.

    • @algs4882
      @algs4882 Před 7 měsíci +70

      I respect and somewhat agree with your opinion, it is very important to make sure children have the support they need. However, you can state your opinions without disrespecting Alexander as a nonbinary person. THEY deserve respect just as you do and everyone else even if you dont agree with them... please use the correct pronouns... kind regards

    • @dudeorduuude5211
      @dudeorduuude5211 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@algs4882be quiet and stop being an AH.

    • @niaobviously
      @niaobviously Před 7 měsíci +28

      Who’s “he”?

    • @blarty
      @blarty Před 7 měsíci +28

      they*

    • @chrisspike3282
      @chrisspike3282 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@blarty HE. I'll use it in a sentence so you can understand: "HE wears clown make up and has a d*ck, so HE is male". Got it babes?

  • @internetwarcriminal4004
    @internetwarcriminal4004 Před měsícem +22

    The fact that this wasn’t even in order tells a lot of Jubilee. They should present the whole talk in real time and order.

  • @Nnc2138
    @Nnc2138 Před měsícem +16

    Alexander really likes to point out that he doesn’t care about kids

  • @ClaraPNAraujo
    @ClaraPNAraujo Před 7 měsíci +4124

    I'm a liberal and honestly disappointed to see the treatment Blaire received from Blossom. There's absolutely no excuse to yell at someone during a debate. There's quite alot of Blaire's thoughts that I disagree with but she actually makes plenty of valid points and deserves respect as much as anyone else in the room

    • @spicycorndogs4619
      @spicycorndogs4619 Před 7 měsíci +111

      I think she was also very disrespectful as well but Blossom definitely was out of pocket too

    • @thatvampigoddess926
      @thatvampigoddess926 Před 7 měsíci +176

      I have seen a lot of debates on this channel and never have I seen them allow anyone to call someone disgusting up until this point.

    • @bellezaxglam9727
      @bellezaxglam9727 Před 7 měsíci

      @@spicycorndogs4619agree

    • @ClaraPNAraujo
      @ClaraPNAraujo Před 7 měsíci +85

      @@spicycorndogs4619 I agree, not a fan of the eye rolling and faces she came up with at some points. But Blossom took it to a whole other level.

    • @ClaraPNAraujo
      @ClaraPNAraujo Před 7 měsíci +37

      @@thatvampigoddess926 that was straight up bullying

  • @abbieahrens9565
    @abbieahrens9565 Před 7 měsíci +2208

    Everyone is talking about Blair but SARA is the real star. She really educated everyone without getting upset and fired up. She justified everything with real reasons and experiences

    • @clarabruselas8444
      @clarabruselas8444 Před 7 měsíci +321

      she didn´t get fired up because people weren´t out to get her the way they did with Blair. i assure you them knowing Blair was going to be there was their gold opportunity to shine by dragging her. there´s a huge portion of the trans community that hate her just because of not being delusional. That being said, i agree that Sara was fantastic and if people weren´t so focused on blasting Blair, we could have listened to Sara and everyone else more

    • @jeronimofrost6990
      @jeronimofrost6990 Před 7 měsíci +162

      Sara made great points but they didn't try to cut Sara's throat like they did to Blaire. The director told Blaire she had to speak last and blossom screamed at and threatened her, all of which was edited out according to blaires reaction to this video

    • @veerbee
      @veerbee Před 7 měsíci +87

      I think the opposing side didn't pay much attention to Sara, although she was obviously very well read and very smart, she knew what she was talking about and made excellent points. They were focused on Blair bc they saw her as a threat and not Sara

    • @moniquenickybasson6903
      @moniquenickybasson6903 Před 7 měsíci +37

      sara wasn't being threatened like blaire was off camera and cut parts

    • @lucaal77
      @lucaal77 Před 7 měsíci +18

      I definitely agree with this. The non binary person is just a joke

  • @maygullordali9157
    @maygullordali9157 Před 29 dny +15

    How can jubilee allow blossom to threaten blaire???

  • @CLSGL
    @CLSGL Před měsícem +55

    Blair and the other conservative trans folks here are proof that simply having someone “on your side” is enough to wildly sway your views. “Trans” was exclusively a liberal movement and I, being a conservative, was vehemently opposed to the entire topic. But having Blaire in the conservative isle really opened me up to the conversation.
    She’s done more to sway my views on the trans community than anybody else on earth.

    • @BizQAC
      @BizQAC Před 15 dny +1

      Agree. She has a great outlook and accountability standards. Even the bathroom debate like that makes the most sense to me.

    • @katiedrew9322
      @katiedrew9322 Před 9 dny

      Always remember that they're going to find the most obnoxious and extreme person for sound clips and examples, its more attention grabbing. Most Trans women are like Blair, while I don't agree with her on everything she said. Me being open and honest with conservative people I work with when I came out had them supporting me fully. Most people aren't looking to grab attention, they're trying to survive.
      Also, most of us can't get all the plastic surgery she clearly had (not a dis) making her so passable. I pass, with no surgery, and I was as shocked as anyone. Most people do not.

  • @misswednesday299
    @misswednesday299 Před 7 měsíci +2860

    Shame on Jubilee for Copyright Striking Blaire's reaction video to her experience on Jubilee. I'm not even conservative, and y'all were totally bias. Your audience deserves a redo!

    • @lexyg1693
      @lexyg1693 Před 7 měsíci +206

      Because she doesn't fit their narrative and of course they have to be petty 🙄

    • @kstephane1444
      @kstephane1444 Před 7 měsíci +1

      You are not liberal either so

    • @1farahnaz
      @1farahnaz Před 7 měsíci +1

      Wtffff jubilee SHAME ON YOU

    • @cynister7355
      @cynister7355 Před 7 měsíci +42

      That's messed up. That makes me more invested to watch it.

    • @ramittyagi667
      @ramittyagi667 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Sooo true this is really sad to see these double standards

  • @AngeliquesWings
    @AngeliquesWings Před 7 měsíci +2382

    Ironic how Blossom pulled the race card every chance she got and used it against Blaire when she's literally mixed race herself

    • @jeffkennerson9116
      @jeffkennerson9116 Před 7 měsíci +41

      always does in any CZcams or media appearance,

    • @SimorneJanuarie
      @SimorneJanuarie Před 7 měsíci +11

      Just create a third space🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @dundermifflinscott2217
      @dundermifflinscott2217 Před 7 měsíci +35

      That just means she is a little higher on the oppression ladder. Gotta feed that victim status

    • @valbankz292
      @valbankz292 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Agree

    • @mimipenafiel3523
      @mimipenafiel3523 Před 7 měsíci +15

      That is what ppl do when they have nothing to say.😊

  • @brentdelrey2577
    @brentdelrey2577 Před měsícem +17

    Blossom and Alexander were so unbearable

    • @jasper46985
      @jasper46985 Před měsícem +3

      Is Alexander the Dude in the Clown IT style??

  • @joeysalazar98
    @joeysalazar98 Před měsícem +24

    Blossom really needs to listen to understand and not listen to respond. I’m not even eight minutes in, and I already have a headache.

  • @tonyamell23
    @tonyamell23 Před 7 měsíci +3619

    Blossom is really a joke! Im a black trans woman myself and never would I use that as a weapon to basically walk all over people the way she does. The whole, "Never interrupt a black trans woman when she is speaking," was just insane! How people take her seriously as a trans advocate/activist? I'm confused myself.

    • @Layla109
      @Layla109 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Blossom's a horrible representation of black trans community. Full stop. They should stop inviting them to these debates with as much toxic masculine energy they exuded at certain points was more than palpable.

    • @jamessinclair2778
      @jamessinclair2778 Před 7 měsíci +162

      Thanks for saying that. Blossom is acting like they represent EVERYONE and I think they actually represent nobody in the process

    • @jamessinclair2778
      @jamessinclair2778 Před 7 měsíci +84

      Hopefully I wasn't interrupting you as a black trans woman 😂❤

    • @anahernandez4043
      @anahernandez4043 Před 7 měsíci +43

      Sounds like you're a more well rounded person.

    • @silentghost751
      @silentghost751 Před 7 měsíci

      Why are you trans?

  • @blandbeauty
    @blandbeauty Před 7 měsíci +4265

    There needs to be a black trans conservatives vs black trans liberals. Bring Blossom back, and see how far she gets without being able rest her points on “being a black trans woman”

    • @len-1768
      @len-1768 Před 7 měsíci +139

      Even better, bring Flame Monroe and Kat Blaque.

    • @LoveMiaStuff
      @LoveMiaStuff Před 6 měsíci

      @@len-1768second on Kat, she’d excel here

    • @ave8863
      @ave8863 Před 6 měsíci +63

      Yes because she goes off when she knows people aren’t combative.

    • @user-ls1ny3pe8y
      @user-ls1ny3pe8y Před 6 měsíci +78

      Yes!!!! I agree with you!!!!! Blossom is so use to using her race as a stepping stone to get sympathy and support. Pathetic.

    • @keirahleesha486
      @keirahleesha486 Před 6 měsíci +28

      @@len-1768yesss lol, they can read her to filth & they’ll stop the bullcrap from her before it even starts😂 they aren’t disillusioned with what they really are & what life is.

  • @rizla2000
    @rizla2000 Před 25 dny +7

    “You’re looking through the lens of trans being the priority, I’m looking through the lens of women being the priority” 👏 👏 👏

  • @jadeduran-smith3421
    @jadeduran-smith3421 Před 29 dny +19

    To the woman in the light orange, you pass honey 🥰

    • @ItsBrynnDiamonds
      @ItsBrynnDiamonds Před 7 dny +1

      She passes the vibe check she reminds me of one of my aunts 😊

  • @Jasijay_
    @Jasijay_ Před 7 měsíci +1354

    @jubilee Please do not have Blossom back on here…as a Black Woman myself, her being allowed to verbally attack other women and men because she disagrees with them is very disgusting. I thought this platform was inclusive I used to think highly of it but now…I don’t understand how you all can allow someone unhinged like that to be apart of this important dialogue showcase.

    • @dekxu6673
      @dekxu6673 Před 7 měsíci +84

      she somehow turns every conversation into a full blown argument and talks over people. it’s annoying. its called middle ground, you’re gonna to hear opinions you don’t agree with, that’s the point.

    • @aorekagaming412
      @aorekagaming412 Před 7 měsíci

      Then turns everything into a race war if losing the argument. Professional Victim

    • @CoquiDeBoriken
      @CoquiDeBoriken Před 7 měsíci +8

      Because it helps expose assholes as well.

    • @ginihall1234
      @ginihall1234 Před 7 měsíci +2

      This

    • @mikenray21
      @mikenray21 Před 7 měsíci +7

      She never let's anyone else talk.

  • @DeanthiusD
    @DeanthiusD Před 7 měsíci +2332

    The “Don’t interrupt a black trans woman while she’s speaking.” statement made me cringe so hard; and im black trans woman myself lol

    • @poisonedcupcake6860
      @poisonedcupcake6860 Před 7 měsíci +70

      Thankyou beautiful lady, I definitely raised an eyebrow hearing that said.

    • @TheTransConservative
      @TheTransConservative Před 7 měsíci +35

      And I love you for that

    • @Detsubkrod
      @Detsubkrod Před 7 měsíci

      You got a boyfriend?

    • @TheTransConservative
      @TheTransConservative Před 7 měsíci +24

      @@Detsubkrod Silence.

    • @cdaz55
      @cdaz55 Před 7 měsíci +28

      She talks about privilege. Who is the one behaving like she thinks she has privilege by telling Blair not to interrupt her even though Blair is trying to respond to her.

  • @sk8ing_is_life
    @sk8ing_is_life Před měsícem +12

    Race had nothing to do with it, it's BLOSSOM THAT'S THE PROBLEM 😂

  • @trentont91
    @trentont91 Před 7 měsíci +1291

    To compare minors getting surgery, to being able to drop out of school at 16, is just a false equivalence. You can always go back for an education at any age. You can’t come back from sex reaffirming surgeries. It’s just not the same.

    • @brookebyers1114
      @brookebyers1114 Před 7 měsíci +30

      I agree!

    • @lacisollsberger7357
      @lacisollsberger7357 Před 7 měsíci +41

      Exactly my thought when hearing that.

    • @shaun5047
      @shaun5047 Před 7 měsíci +60

      Lol I’m honestly surprised no one called it out. It was such a ridiculous comparison.

    • @jamjarrben12
      @jamjarrben12 Před 7 měsíci +13

      Exactly thankyou, someone who understand logic.

    • @SmittenandBitten
      @SmittenandBitten Před 7 měsíci +90

      And more importantly... He says why am i allowed to live alone at 16 but not top surgery?
      Bro.... You were abandoned. You never had a choice. No one would agree that u should live as an adult at 16.
      And thats the answer.

  • @brianparent4882
    @brianparent4882 Před 7 měsíci +3900

    If you don’t want to be interrupted don’t do it to others. Being black has nothing to do with it.

    • @erenjaeger1738
      @erenjaeger1738 Před 7 měsíci +67

      The definition of "Wokness"

    • @localhotti3
      @localhotti3 Před 7 měsíci +28

      Blaire also interrupted throughout this entire debate btw

    • @octavialafontaine7090
      @octavialafontaine7090 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@erenjaeger1738The word wokeness, where does it come from? It can also be seen as bullying to use that term.

    • @tchallasqueen4861
      @tchallasqueen4861 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Yes I agree. So cringe when statement was made

    • @apollooncancr0_876
      @apollooncancr0_876 Před 7 měsíci

      @@octavialafontaine7090 the progressives who invented this term for themselves, as they consider themselves to be the ones with their eyes open, but little by little conservatives turn it into an insult because of the amount of stupidity coming from progressives.

  • @lodiedodiee
    @lodiedodiee Před měsícem +15

    I like the one in all black...why do women and girls have to be uncomfortable to make you comfortable. SAFETY is a priority...if you can't use the womens bathroom, is that a safety issue?

  • @Nichole.Monroe
    @Nichole.Monroe Před 16 dny +5

    As a trans person who has always considered themselves a liberal thinker... this liberal panel came off as creepy and scummy.

  • @lukeypukey12345
    @lukeypukey12345 Před 6 měsíci +1996

    Blossom: attacks everyone
    Also blossom: I AM A VICTIM

    • @blueman1470
      @blueman1470 Před 5 měsíci +42

      As a black victim.

    • @susanna8612
      @susanna8612 Před 5 měsíci +24

      She should read the book Secret.
      One creates his own reality. She projects her victimhood mentality everywhere and is responded regardingly.

    • @MaryKat2
      @MaryKat2 Před 5 měsíci +24

      Not just a victim a black Victim 😂

    • @LibraTransitioned
      @LibraTransitioned Před 5 měsíci +2

      Relax.

    • @rydbthatsme
      @rydbthatsme Před 5 měsíci +12

      She’s a self-victimizing narc

  • @piecebypiece2028
    @piecebypiece2028 Před 7 měsíci +1028

    Its crazy that jubilee tried so hard to make Blair look unhinged and crazy with their editing, and she still comes across as a buddhist monk when compared to Blossom.

    • @AzDoll714
      @AzDoll714 Před 7 měsíci

      The producers are pathetic

    • @moldbrain660
      @moldbrain660 Před 7 měsíci +35

      A Buddhist monk broooooo☠️☠️

    • @theriseofyousafzai8779
      @theriseofyousafzai8779 Před 7 měsíci +4

      😂

    • @WattPheasant
      @WattPheasant Před 7 měsíci +15

      Blossom and Blaire were both being insufferable.

    • @DUBSTV2003
      @DUBSTV2003 Před 7 měsíci +23

      @@WattPheasantBlaire was constantly attacked from the beginning. This video isn’t chronologically edited, the first question they actually had was about trans military. When they sat down, blossom and the others immediately attacked Blaire about not being grassroots & saying she’s done nothing for the community. Then threatened her, that’s how this panel STARTED.

  • @yarioi
    @yarioi Před měsícem +10

    I also don’t really like Blaire, but she absolutely devoured these arguments and I can see her pov. She handled talking with blossom beautifully and I love how respectful she was. Again, blossom is a bully, and entitled. I have family in the military and I can for damn sure say that being black or a poc does not have nothing to do with the military. The question was about trans people being on the military not color or racism.

  • @angelharris1327
    @angelharris1327 Před měsícem +12

    You dont just get to decide "Oh this place is more safe for me if I identify as a male" and then the next day "oh this place is more safe for me as a female" or they, them, wtf ever. YOU'RE ONE OR THE OTHER!!!

    • @DominikZagar
      @DominikZagar Před 3 dny

      Just finding excuses because Blossom doesn’t have any valid argument literally 😂

  • @patryapg
    @patryapg Před 7 měsíci +1851

    How can you allow these people to be so disrespectful?

  • @SiaD777
    @SiaD777 Před 3 měsíci +1636

    To compare dropping out of school to cutting off a body part is insane. You can always go back to school, you can't grow back a body part.

    • @thasisters4528
      @thasisters4528 Před 3 měsíci +37

      Exactly what I was thinking!

    • @Deeptunester
      @Deeptunester Před 2 měsíci +41

      Not only that, but it makes sex change operations sound like a bad decision just like dropping out of school would be.

    • @tristangavura966
      @tristangavura966 Před 2 měsíci +14

      You can go back and get a GED literally whenever

    • @janetcarswell2178
      @janetcarswell2178 Před 2 měsíci +9

      I totally and utterly agree. That really annoyed me

    • @JusttheGayBits
      @JusttheGayBits Před 2 měsíci +5

      But I get what he's saying though. He was put in positions where was forced to be an adult before he wasn't an adult and yet he can't make decisions on his body like an adult. So the system picks and chooses when it sees minors as minors.

  • @surveysays731
    @surveysays731 Před měsícem +13

    i was SO into watching Jubilee’s videos until this debate….what they allowed to happen in this debate is downright disgusting

  • @chiwhiner
    @chiwhiner Před 21 dnem +5

    "Straight cis women feel dysphoria about their breast size" omg... feeling insecure about your body, as most young people do, is not the same thing as gender dysphoria. Nonbinary people throw around "my dysphoria" the way people who don't actually suffer from ocd will casually talk about "my ocd."

  • @misakiXmei
    @misakiXmei Před 7 měsíci +2421

    not blossom turning it into a race issue just to get heard as if she wasn’t interrupting everyone herself 💀 I‘m saying this as a black woman - this is supposed to be a fair debate so don’t shout race just to make your voice weigh more

    • @kareenaemerson5810
      @kareenaemerson5810 Před 7 měsíci +106

      literally. Stop the victim mentality blossom.

    • @onepartyroule
      @onepartyroule Před 7 měsíci +50

      Preferred pronouns are a curtesy. Males (however they identify) who are out here happy oppressing women and girls don’t deserve “she” as far as I’m concerned. My response to them is “if empathy and curtesy is so important, you do it first”.

    • @johnnyappleseed5590
      @johnnyappleseed5590 Před 7 měsíci +30

      It’s a he not a she.

    • @vivi20667
      @vivi20667 Před 7 měsíci +63

      Especially considering she’s pretty much arguing she’s more of a victim than the guy who literally has HIV and drug addicts as parents. He clearly has a huge disadvantage in life and still manages to be a lot more respectful than her. She always has to be listened to because of her skin color, but his opinion doesn’t matter because he’s conservative.

    • @seekerandthinker
      @seekerandthinker Před 7 měsíci +35

      the victim mentality is strong in that guy, "don't interrupt a black transwoman" so privilege to go White House, but claimed to be oppressed

  • @indica534
    @indica534 Před 7 měsíci +788

    "cis women have dysphoria about their breasts". Its not dysphoria its dysmorphia, those are 2 different mental disorders

    • @EM-cy2ml
      @EM-cy2ml Před 7 měsíci +6

      Thank!!!

    • @idfkwtr
      @idfkwtr Před 7 měsíci +74

      he doesn't even know what gender dysphoria is and claims that he is 'trans' LMAO

    • @indica534
      @indica534 Před 7 měsíci +32

      @@idfkwtr yep, that was kinda the point I was trying to make. He's trying to say he's something, that he doesn't even fully understand

    • @shellbeeforreal3915
      @shellbeeforreal3915 Před 7 měsíci +6

      I said the exact same thing lol! It’s them mixing dysphoria with dysmorphia haha wow that’s rich 😂

    • @MarshaBrady88
      @MarshaBrady88 Před 7 měsíci +6

      No, cis women can have dysphoria about their breasts. I’ve known women myself who had dysphoria because they felt that their breasts were so small that it made them feel like a boy. Not in the trans sense, but it made her feel less of a women.
      Since that involves your perception of your own gender, it is dysphoria

  • @holdyourhorses7658
    @holdyourhorses7658 Před měsícem +12

    They keep saying I don't know what's it like to be a nonbinary person, but isn't that sort of the point that the conservative side is trying to make? That's it's a different experience than their own?

    • @katiedrew9322
      @katiedrew9322 Před 9 dny

      But that's why they're transgender men and women, and they're trans non binary. All the trans women and men will say they're men and women, just not cis men and cis women.

  • @ZacharyMaslany
    @ZacharyMaslany Před měsícem +23

    So dropping out of high school is like getting your weiner cut off? You can go back to school, ya can’t grow it back.

  • @scarletpsycho5384
    @scarletpsycho5384 Před 7 měsíci +2277

    Blossom is one of the most hypocritical people I’ve ever seen, no one was being rude or discriminating her, yet she pulled the victim card and not only did she act like she was the only poc in the room but she was the only one using her racial/ethnic background as an accuse to belittle everyone around her

    • @nashocheese
      @nashocheese Před 7 měsíci +35

      That truly was hypocritical. I think at that point in the discussion she lost the room and everyone kind of got the feeling she was Irrational.

    • @xHighgatex
      @xHighgatex Před 7 měsíci +56

      Me as a black person watching she did not have to pull the race card at any point in this video. She’s surrounded by people who welcomes all that she is. The fact that she pulled that and said other unnecessary things I’m just like 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @adelegatimbirizo7696
      @adelegatimbirizo7696 Před 7 měsíci +13

      @@xHighgatexliterally, like what does race have to do with with this debate at any point? Uuuuggghhhhh 😒

    • @liameiliana7899
      @liameiliana7899 Před 7 měsíci +13

      i watched blossom in other videos and yes she is problematic. Like when she was arguing with amala, in trans vs concervative woman. When it comes to her argument, everything is valid, but the same thing applied to the opposite argument it's not anymore.

    • @jazmin2463
      @jazmin2463 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Agreed!!!!! Blossom has major mentally internal issues, blossom has to figure that out personally way before being on any panel going forward. Almost all of the liberal side needs to sit and reflect. Almost all of their responses were so disgustingly selfish.