Is Being Fat a Choice? | Middle Ground
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0:00 intro
0:32 Being fat or skinny is a choice
6:56 I would rather be skinny than fat
12:42 America has an obesity problem
21:59 Fat shaming is worse than skinny shaming
28:10 Diet culture has positive effects - Zábava
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I think it's a 50% split cuz genetics, environment, economics, and upbringing are all factors that aren't controlled
are you guys not making enough money from millions of views and ads on here why is a part of the video behind a paywall? 😐
Yes it absolutely does.
@@MaxRamos8
I feel like genetics does play a role, but probably less than it’s implied. Consider that a family of overweight people will feed their kids what they eat and thus make it appear genetic, when in reality they’re just eating the same foods in the quantities their family has.
@@user-sf9gs2pg1b /simulating their lifestyle
Bottom line: don't be rude or mean to people, but also, let's not pretend that being obese is in any way healthy.
And let's not pretend being anorexic is healthy either. Both are bad.
@@Tommy-nh4su theres a difference between being just skinny and anorexic and anorexia is literally the most deadly mental illness so like...obviously its not healthy and i dont think anyone here said that
@@Tommy-nh4su Of course both are bad. But this episode is about obesity.
okay, let's also not pretend "not being healthy" is why obese people are treated so poorly
@@serah3338 I'm referring to overweight individuals who try to glorify their condition, as if there is nothing wrong or unusual about it. Encouraging others to be obese / normalizing it as if "it's alright to be super overweight" is just as damaging as encouraging people to starve themselves.
i NEED to see overweight vs gym rats. Especially gym rats who were overweight i feel like it’s a whole new harsh but real perspective
Fr we need one! but at the end I feel like the gym goers will be called "insecure" for changing themselves, I've seen so many of them get absolutely bodyshamed in the comments :/
Lauren gives me the gym rat vibe. But I don’t think she had a transformation
@@edwardgaiennie8956 she seems like a strict dietician rather than a gym rat
@@edwardgaiennie8956 it’s fine to be a gym rat but she has an extreme relationship with food. You can be more balanced and still be in great shape.
She’s free to do what she wants, but lots of healthy people eat junk food here and there.
Why are gym rats the standard for health? Like what they gotta do w this? Some gym rats have disordered eating in order to maintain their bodies, how is that healthy?
"Going to the doctor is a choice" one of the most privileged things I've ever heard
It is if you are fortunate enough. It also depends on where you live. For example being poor in America in need of medical attention then you have the worst luck. I wouldn’t call having basic rights privileged tho.
mainly in america
DEADASS
It shouldn't be, what's the point of taxes if there isn't public free /affordable Healthcare
That's only if you live somewhere without free healthcare. Here in Canada it is a choice.
Lauren is definitely going to be an almond mom. She seems like her size is her identity
REAL
the whole discussion was about size so of course shes gonna talk about it
@@jaeminok8544 There's a different between you so happening to be something and acknowledging it and your identity being based around that thing. She seems more of the latter. Thats my point
@@sweetncool what
Yup she's the type to shame her daughter for eating a piece of chocolate which then lead's to eating disorder. Some skinny parents do this because they do not want their children to go through bullying so I get it.
Telling a dangerously overweight person not to lose weight because they're "beautiful" is like telling an alcoholic not to stop drinking because they're "fun".
But on the flip side, in studies it shows that bullying plus size people for their weight doesn’t actually “help” them lose weight but in fact increases binge eating due to stress
Being dangerously overweight isn't beautiful, though.
@@RS54321beauty is subjective
@@soylatte1288 What a wild false dichotomy.
@@soylatte1288 at least in part because society is pushing to make it too acceptable to stay unhealthily overweight, and make it frowned upon to mention it. family members and close friends should say something, but not random strangers
when Lauren said she doesn't think skinny people go into the junk food aisle I already knew she was an almond mom type of person because that made no sense.
Fr. I have very fast metabolism. Sometimes i eat so unhealthy but I do not gain any weight
I think she worded herself badly, because skinny people do eat junk food and fast food, but thin people eat LESS of it. Smaller portions. A thin person is taking in less calories than a 400lb person.
@@kab9706 i agree. There needs to be a balance. But sometimes I do eat more junk food than people that are bigger than me. It’s weird. I think you need to find the balance between junk food and healthy food within your own body that fits your metabolism.
@divinedlibra9884 same I eat junk but I don't really binge eat or sneak snacks all night. Obese people sometimes claim they "never" eat or eat healthier than thin people, but those calories come from somewhere
@@kab9706what do you mean thin vs skinny…
Lauren saying she can't think of a single place that would be a food desert is so incredibly out of touch and ignorant I was shocked.
I know some people just don't have a clue
I'm confused about this. If there is a place that doesn't have a grocery store in the area but it does have fast food restaurants, what's stopping anyone from starting a grocery store there? It seems like that would be very profitable.
@@pimvankempen4218 there are many areas that are more remote or just not major cities where there is not a grocery store for large distances. they’re usually in areas with less densely populated areas, higher amounts of abandoned homes, lower incomes and low education levels. idk what’s stopping ppl from opening one but probably profit margins. it’s more profitable to open a grocery store in a much more densely populated area than one with less. so basically the city planning is discriminatory against these rural populations
@@pimvankempen4218did you understand the amount of funding you must have to buy/rent a property, purchase all the refrigeration, hire all the staff, comply with safety regulations/licensing/inspections. If your town is so small you don’t have a grocery store, chances are you are also too poor to start a complex, expensive business…
Imagine being this lazy
i weighed 230 and came down to 140 it changed my life actually my whole outlook im more positive and my mental vibes are way more delightful
I think people underestimate how much isn’t just physical but mental. My therapist actually recommended exercise to help my mental health, I went from a bmi of 30.1 to 23.6 and not only did every health marker improved but so did my depression and really all aspects of my life. I feel so much better in all ways as I started taking care of my health
way to go pal!@@dank4556
I think a lot of it is do to the lifestyle changed that came with weight loss. Body image is only one part of it
@@dank4556it is physically straining which can cause mental strain too. As well as society hating on bigger people.
That crazy I started 250 and now I also came down 140. I salute you !!!, it was not easy. “Self discipline”
why is nobody talking about parker and the "some days i don't eat" casually 😭
No literally. Like Parker, that’s a disordered way of eating.
fasting isn't an eating disorder he does have one but choosing to cleanse your pallet once or twice a month or not eating certain things certain days isn't an eating disorder@@stacymiffin3243
My boyfriend looks EXACTLY like Parker. Like I had to ask him if that was actually him. But anyway, he also doesn't eat some days but he has IBS and ADHD and many days will just.. forget to eat, or avoid it if his tummy is feeling off. I have to actively remind him to eat.
@@jsanchez8855he might be on medication that makes him lose his appetite.
I went through a few years where I would forget to eat too. It wasn’t purposely. I also have ADHD. On those days I would sometimes be up at 3 am and realize I forgot to eat and then grab something and make myself eat it. Or I’d go a day without eating and wake up and eat cheesecake in the morning 😅
I have had disordered eating for a lot of my life but during that time it wasn’t purposely avoiding food so I wouldn’t have considered it disordered compared to the times I’ve struggled with actual eating disorders.
Seeing everyone jump on Lauren when she said skinny people don’t eat junk food was refreshing
It's not that skinny people don't eat junk food, it's that they don't eat too much junk food
@@mra4955what is too much junk food?
@@mra4955that’s also not true as a skinny person who eats way too much junk food lol
@@spicycorndogs4619trust me, search up daily eating of an obese person
@@spicycorndogs4619 ok, must not be true then
" I chose not to eat somedays"... friend there's a name for that
Called having discipline.
@@flamefusion8963 u don't need to "discipline" yourself to stay thin when he alr said he's underweight and wants to gain weight
It's called fasting. I lost 50 pounds in 8 weeks. Now I'm 120 pounds.
@@MaryJaneJones. Fasting is fine intermittently, but your body needs nutrients to survive. You are only supposed to lose 1-3 lbs a week in order to sustain yourself and your metabolism. There's nothing wrong with fasting, but there are significant health risks with long-term fasting
@@MaryJaneJones.what fast did u do?
Seeing some of the viewpoints Lauren had about access to specialized healthcare and access to stores that aren’t dollar stores/discount grocery stores says a lot about how she grew up and the world she lives in.
she grew up in a world where she had access to healthy food and got a referral to see an endocrinologist? thats what should be happening, its not a bad thing
Yes but not everyone has access to that and her saying what she said was not taking this into account. The woman who she was responding to clearly didn't have access to the same privileges. @@sciencelover7582
Why, is that a luxury in US?
@@kotyarazuchara8329depends on the insurance one has but most ppl have access to grocery stores with healthy food that is affordable, most just decide to not buy the healthy food.
@@kotyarazuchara8329it is for some, yes
Props to dominick for being self aware and balanced in his viewpoints
He’s the only one who mentioned seed oils let’s go
@@TheSalamihi carson
His point about farms in small towns was kinda wack tho. Those farms are selling their meat and eggs in bulk to nationwide distributors, not to local poor people lol
@@Mary-lr5ok He meant that the residents themselves are farmers or at least have their own chickens
@@pog8744 yeah that's correct! I've spent a lot of time on the road and while I obviously haven't visited every city in America, the thing rural cities had that places like LA certainly don't is land! People out there often had a few chickens of their own, and land enough to grow some vegetables, fruits, etc. so many fresh fruit trees, forageables, and more!
Looking forward myself to getting well out of the city.
Dominick was the sort of person we should all be like. He didn't make excuses to suit himself, while also not bringing himself down.
no, but he made judgements on everyone else and assumed they should think the same as him.
@@walkingonfiree7609 He judged them after they opened their mouths and excuses came out.
He's my spirit animal, I loved his accountability.
@@walkingonfiree7609 All that came out of the mouths of the others were sad back stories to justify not putting in the work to manage their weight. Is it harder for some ppl? Yes. Do some ppl have to jump through higher hoops for the same results? Yes. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t or can’t. It’s a CHOICE, as he mentioned too.
The more we see a trial or obstacle as an excuse for complacency, the worse off we all will be. Imagine if Jackie Robinson thought how these ladies did. Would he really have gotten to his level of legendary status? No.
I agree. I hope he lives a great life. He said he wants to be skinny so I hope he gets to his goal. It will benefit him
I hope dominick achieves what he wants and be around his kids for a long time. Those kids are lucky to have a father figure like him
Did I hear her say “I can’t even think of an area that would have a food desert”….??
yeah, the whole cast was like, "well, I've never personally experienced one so they must not exist." 🙄🙄🙄 Like, I can see that they're not living in poverty by their clothes and the fact they can afford the food that's readily available in their towns.
lauren acting like everyone can go see an endocrinolgist and not worry about medication costs...
Yep. AND if she has hyperthyroidism... she is more likely to be skinny.
just live in europe 👍
That's exactly it. It's complete privilege to bekuege that we all can do that especially as women and don't even get me started on those who are ethic lol
She definitely carries the mindset of "I am thin and I am the better for it"
Literally
Shoutout to Dominick for being a totally reasonable and level headed dude.
He’s like this in all videos a really great guy
@@Morsee.Yep agree
i hope he gets the help he needs
Aww shucks you guys are so nice 😍😍
@@goosmusbro why you let her say she’s the average weight for someone
It always amazes me how humans will quickly change narratives to make themselves feel better
Yea, having a healthy body is da best because you would never have to worried about health problem, no health problem no depress because of health problem. There is nothing to debate about, every choices other than being fit is plain and simple wrong
We shouldn’t even think of “GETTING THIN” we need to strive for a healthy LIFESTYLE. Build healthy habits, learn to build a healthy plate, do research, exercise, lift, go outdoors! Eat your favorite meals too! Enjoy your “guilty pleasure”. We have so much access to information on the internet.
If you want to be healthy then you should strive for all kinds like your body weight. ‘Guilty pleasures’ are guilty for a reason
@@Afrogirrl No, the number on the scale does not mean healthy or unhealthy in all situations. Correlation does not equal causation. Also, many guilty pleasures are things that people feel guilty about because it is something outside what they view as normal because of society. It does not mean they should actually feel guilty.
@@britwashereee society? People should eat to their hearts extent and it’s okay to have excess adipose tissue, because of society?
Lauren was the embodiment of privileged and completely lacked empathy for others life experiences. I’m 115 pounds and I would never belittle someone how she did.
She had the absolutely worst stink bombs of a take omg
It made me seethe how she tried to mask her arguments as "logic" when they were obviously coming from a place of deep arrogance and bias. She just tried to sound fair 🤦♀
@@vlogsbyrowshe was saying the truth, though. You don’t need to sugarcoat all time. Could she have been a little more empathetic? Yes. But was she wrong? No.
"Privilege" is a social construct.
@@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamerbaby all language is socially constructed
saying skinny people don’t eat junk food is insane
I don’t think you realize though that, even though they do, it’s the amount of it. Overweight people are extreme liars about how much they actually eat. They lie to themselves. Yes skinny people might have a cupcake once in a while but they don’t have three every day.
@@RichardTavillaas someone who is definitely considered skinny…I often eat a whole pint of ice cream and carb-centered meals on a daily basis. Our natural metabolism is a big determinant of our set weights.
@@sierra94iolana of course and age comes into play as well. Amount of junk and booze and I consumed in my 20s.
@@RichardTavillaa cupcake once in a while? 😂😂😂
@@user-un7yy3rh6h she eats a case a day
Sometimes being overweight is a choice, sometimes it is not. There is a very wide range of reasons why people struggle with their weight, from personal discipline, to metabolic changes, to medical conditions of the body or the mind. It is reckless to promote being over or underweight, and its reckless to promote discrimination and contempt towards those who are outside of healthy ranges. The goal should be to support people to be as healthy as they can be through promoting nutritional advice and exercise and being clear about the impacts of being an unhealthy weight and the dangers, but you can do those things without being nasty or discriminatory.
Totally agree! Well stated! I have no desire to be skinny, only to be my healthiest, most fit self.
Madeline saying she’s average weight for women in America just proves that America has such a bad obesity problem 😭
she is wrong
Madeline is delusional! She’s not average size, and her body is not at its “set point”.
Dominic seems very smart! He thinks very logically and doesn't victimize himself. I wish him a long and healthy life😁
Very smart and great communicator
Agreed, he's very smart and seems sweet. I like that he takes accountability
You better keep wishing LOL
He a guy
Fr
Is anyone checking on Parker? He started the discussion saying that being skinny is a choice because there are some days that he chooses not to eat to later admitting that he is anorexic. That's an eating disorder and just as unhealthy as overeating and being obese. (Also, its important to point out that men's mental health, especially with regard to eating disorders, is SO overlooked and not acknowledged enough)
Why do we need to check on him. He said himself it's a "choice."
He’s aware that he is severely underweight
def not as unhealthy as overeating or being obese but he should find some kind of help so he can be at a healthy weight
Is anyone checking on overweight people in this video?
@@isa640well having an ed is never a choice
did Lauren just say SHAME is a motivator💀omg she needs a reality check
what they are referring to as "productive shame" is guilt. no shame is productive. shame tells you: i am bad, there's nothing i can do about it. shame keeps people stagnant and stuck. GUILT says: i did/am doing something bad, what can i do to fix it. guilt can most definitely be a motivator.
Aspiration + an encouraging support system is a better motivator than either shame or guilt.
Madeline saying she is the average weight of a woman in America is either a lie or a big disappointment from America.
70% of the usa is overweight 40% obese
She is not the average weight, I checked the stats because I was so shocked. It's 170.8 lbs (77 kg) and she definitely weighs more than that.
@@CoolCat847 Yeah I knew that had to be a lie she probably tells herself to sleep better at night
She be lying to win an argument or shes uninformed
honestly, my jaw dropped when she said that
It’s a huge problem that people don’t think obesity is unhealthy. Has nothing to do with being beautiful. Everything to do with dying early for no reason.
Thank you. They are focused on the aesthetics of weight and beauty. It should not be about that.
It's about health...high blood pressure, diabetes, heart attack, joint problems, breathing issues, stroke and earlier death. This can be said for being underweight as well.
But the lack of acknowledgement of the weight being uncomfortable and impeding their ability to live a happier and long life.
This is based on my experience, so caveat there, but I've never met an obese person who thought that their obesity was healthy or even pleasant. It's very uncomfortable physically. I've met obese people who don't want to be judged as less healthy in their habits than skinny people and treated differently as a person based on their weight alone. Which, to me, is fair. I know loads of perfectly thin people with terrible eating habits who never work out. And many overweight people who eat healthy and exercise. 🤷
@@leftunsupervised FYI I am an obese person. I never once have claimed to be healthy, as the people in the video are, nor do I think it’s ok. It’s a huge problem in America. I’ve been on a journey to get healthy and have lost 100 pounds in the last year because of my own personal choices. Everything comes down to choices. I’m still obese and I workout 5 days a week. At the core, nobody is naturally obese and I agree that we should all be treated equally but also obesity is a huge problem and only made worse by corporate greed and the overconsumption and gluttony taught in our society
@@Shirx.ley7 Congratulations! That's incredible! Is obesity healthy? No. Do many obese people have healthy habits equal to or exceeding the habits of loads of thin people? Yes. I know them personally. They're putting in the work like you, but they aren't getting the results like you. They have other conditions and health factors than you don't seem to have. So, GREAT! That's awesome! But know that your experience isn't universal, so you can't then stand up and say oh, well, it's always a choice.
I think the people in the video, esp. Cambria, were saying that you can't assume she's just a person with no self-control based on looking at her. She has healthy habits, she just also has lupus and was given medication that made her gain weight. That wasn't her choice. She doesn't have the same scenario as you, nor should people assume that she does.
@@leftunsupervised I understand where you’re coming from but I also am studying nutrition and exercise science and there’s no health condition that prevents weight loss by caloric deficit. It is how our bodies are fundamentally wired. Being slightly overweight may not be a choice but being obese is. Some may have to work harder but science is a fact. Understanding your own body and adjusting to your own needs is what it takes if you want to be healthy. There’s no one size fits all, but all should make every effort to be healthy. Nobody’s body is at a 300 pound set point, that’s not how it works chemically. Even with hormonal syndromes and issues, there are choices you can make to be at a healthy weight, I’ve seen it plenty of times and have my own experiences with physical limitations. There’s truly no valid excuse to being obese other than you just don’t want to put in the work, which I understand but let’s be honest about it. If someone is happy with their body then I’m happy for them, but I’m not going to agree that some people are healthy and obese and some people just can’t lose weight when it’s just simply not true.
Lauren has literally never met a poor person
Sometimes fast food isn't what's "easy," it's what is affordable and in the local area when grocery stores are not. It's called a food desert. Sometimes "just going to a doctor" isn't possible if you don't have insurance. Blaming people for not having access to certain things is ridiculously uninformed.
There are almost no scenarios where grocery stores will cost more than fast food... even in a food desert
@@kristobin8451especially nowadays with prices going up
WHERE is fast food cheaper than the grocery store???
Fast food is not more affordable than the local grocery store. Stop that misconception.
How is fast food cheaper? It's always cheaper to buy food in grocery stores and cook it yourself. Moreover, you don't need a nutritionist to lose weight, most information is available online. What's lacking here is proper motivation. It's always easier to feel sorry about yourself and seek for excuses rather than actually say NO to your cravings.
The way she said “I’m the average weight for women in America, so if you’re looking for the average the closest you’re going to get is me”, the only reason that’s the case is because of the obesity epidemic… That was not always the average weight historically.
I agree with that statement. I was shocked when she said that she was the average, because I do not see many individuals who are that heavy. Do not get me wrong, I see overweight individuals, but I mostly see people who are 300lbs or below. Id say size 14-18 is the average for women because that is usually the size that is sold out most of the time.
@@destinypointer9069the average woman in the US is like ~5’3 and 170 lbs. So she’s definitely bigger than the average woman
wow that is insane as someone from europe... and it is a problem to be that big. being the average doesn't mean its not bad like...
She aint the average woman, shes delusional.
Sorry if its harsh but thems the facts
@@-danny.omg im literally 5’3 170 lbs 😩😩…crazy I’m that spot on 😂
Being healthy is a choice.
no
@@thecoolestcat5078 it is tho
Fact. Obviously you can get unlucky, but for the most part it’s a choice.
Depends on the situation
Yes, and some people are healthy at higher weights
Noone should be wearing g-strings in public. Period.
As a fitness coach who has helped many people gain and lose weight, I want to share my observations. All the slim individuals who told me that they also eat a lot or consume a lot of junk food, when I delve into how much food they actually eat in a day or how many calories they intake, the results are astonishingly similar. In fact, none of the slim people consume a large amount of junk food. Their average daily calorie intake is much lower than that of a normal person, and their appetite is very small. Similarly, individuals who claim they eat very little but are overweight always underestimate their appetite and the calorie content of their food.Excessive obesity and being too thin are both harmful to the body and unattractive. What's truly important is learning to control your own figure, so that when you are dissatisfied with your physique, you can change it as you wish. Controlling weight is never a difficult task; it is merely a skill, similar to riding a bicycle or swimming, that everyone can master as long as you have courage to try and faith to overcome certain difficulties.
yeah they should have said they eat junk food often, not that they eat a lot of junk food.
Exactly lots of my friends who ppl say they have a ‘fast metabolism’ almost never finish their plate of food or that one fast food meal they eat ‘everyday’ wouldve been their only meal that day because they forgot to eat, or were preoccupied with other things
@@Afrogirrl you can have a faster metabolism, but only people who use their body a lot will, the more active you are the more you'll burn off. Having more muscle mass makes you burn more calories faster than someone who doesn't
@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare yeah i dont disagree at all. But I feel like if you’re a skinnier person seen with a burger you’ll instantly be claimed to have a fast metabolism
@@Afrogirrl yeah, but that's just based on some subconscious learning, which yes, it's false. And also a burger isn't that bad, I think a burger at mcdonalds is like 350 kcal or less and if you eat that as a meal then you eat less than what a meal would be, typically a meal would be 500 calories.
I feel like Lauren views being skinny through her own personal lens rather than objectively. The fact she straight faced said skinny people don’t eat junk food is BAFFLING. I’m 118lbs(53kg) and during my early twenties I was eating cake for breakfast some days. I would’ve loved a little bit more back and forth and challenge to Lauren’s claims.
how many calories did you consume? daily
@@uchennanwogu2142The point wasn’t really about how much cake is eaten or not. It was about eating cake at all since Lauren made the claim skinny people don’t eat junk.
@@popkick8350 I’d like to think that Lauren was referring to the fact that skinny people don’t eat much calorie wise which is why she said they don’t eat much junk food either. Metabolism can play a big part but at the end of the day if you’re still skinny even after eating “a lot” then you’re not actually eating that many calories/junk food in this case.
I work out because it's fun and it allows me to eat more!
@@gibbonobut that’s not true , she should speak for herself because that’s false .
As a nutritionist, seeing so many people think obesity isn't a factor leading to health diseases is concerning... It is really sad to know that's how it is across the atlantic, Europeans are usually way more educated on this subject.
They all know it's detrimental to their health lmao they just won't accept it
These girls are coping HARD!!
become a DIETITIAN then come back…
Another reason why Europeans are superior
Americans have brainwashed themselves
The mishandling of the food desert convo was insane
Can u explain?
I actually had to put it on 1.5x at that point bc it was making me incredibly angry, I can’t believe anyone can be that privileged and uninformed, but to not accept this as truth and continue to argue incredibly niche examples of why this does exist bc “duhhhh there’s chickens and small town grocery stores is insane” many ppl can’t afford or do not own land, rural grocery stores are incredibly marked up bc often they’re the only choice with few produce options beyond basics, ALSO food desserts are typically an urban area thing, I live in a mid sized city of 700k and don’t drive, I can’t afford the TWO options within nearly 20 minutes of driving (and I live close to downtown which is insane)
@@trashbiscuits1906yeah it seemed that none of them really had a grasp on the term. While it is used to describe more urban locations usually ones that lost a traditional grocery store and now the only choices are Dollar General, 7-Eleven/Convince Stores ect the same concept does happen in rural settings.
Not every skinny person is healthy. Yes! But I never see an obese healthy person.
I know 2. My partners parents are both over 100 kg (200 pounds) but they have a nutritious diet, they eat vegetables that they produce on their garden, protein and carbs, ofcourse they eat sweets, fried food or even mcdonals on special ocasions (which I don't thunk is unhealthy if it's not exagarated), but they also have an intense workout with a qualified coach 2 times a week and they have a dog so they take walks most days of the week, in summer they work in the garden on weekends they hike etc. Since they have a coach and try to eat even more of a nutritious diet they lost around 30-40 kilograms between both of them but for a year now they are stuck at the weight a bit over 100 kg. And I am sure they are not the only ones.
Skinny is an aesthetic. MOST skinny people aren’t healthy, if they were they’d be called “fit” or “athletic.”
Meanwhile most football players are obese, even Travis Kelce.
but weight can fluctuate not just based on health choices? like taking certain medicines make you gain weight or chemotherapy and to not do so could technically be considered unhealthy
@@glencoconutwhat do you mean
@@katarinavukosav3511you can overeat ‘healthy foods’ and many people eat more than they burn in exercise.
Dominick is the definition of accountability. He holds himself accountable but also is able to see its up to him whether he wants to change or not
Fax but at times comes out douchey
Perhaps so, though he likely does not have the background in psychology to understand that some of what he is saying is a bit silly. Even if he wanted to boil it down to willpower (though there are countless systemic factors which contribute towards obesity), willpower is quite literally a limited resource within the body that is regulated by blood glucose levels within the brain. People who struggle with self control are typically placed within environments where they are frequently exposed to high levels of temptation, which reduces glucose levels within the body making it more and more difficult to exert self control with each subsequent temptation. Many people due to financial, legal, or social circumstances cannot simply up and change every component to their lives, which can make it exceptionally difficult to lose weight simply because of this factor alone. People in Europe do not have some innate ability for willpower that Americans do not. The difference is that they have different systemic solutions to address obesity, including walkable cities, less fast food, higher regulation in the food manufacturing process, and better regional wages/work hours that leave people with the time and energy to cook at home.
I do respect Dominick's willingness to take accountability for his own life, though this subject is far more complicated than being a mere issue of self control.
@@jennosyde709 Yeah agreed some of his takes were way to simplistic, weight is a lot more complicated than mere willpower...
it is an issue of self control and willpower and discipline. I'm not naturally skinny, i calorie count every single day and do calories in vs calories out. Some people lack that discipline, simple as that. Take accountability for your own obesity. @@jennosyde709
there's fast food everywhere, don't eat it maybe? You're not a child. Where I live theres' tonnes of horrible fast food, you just avoid it. Walkable cities? You can still go to the gym or run, btw though, exercise isn't necessary to lose weight. It's all diet (calories in vs calories out). You also don't need to buy sugary HFCS crap in America. And even if you do, it's still calories in vs calories out. You could lose weight on mcdonalds if you wanted.@@jennosyde709
Lauren was unbearable, her viewpoints honestly disgusted me and were extremely hurtful. I’m not even overweight but she exemplifies why eating disorders are such a problem
She spoke nothing but facts...
Yes I couldn’t agree more
I feel like her points were often valid. I feel though that some of her points were innapropriate to the prompt or the course the conversation was going in.
I think she says what people typically DONT want to hear , doesn’t make it horrible. It’s just an opinion you’re not a kin to, which is why we need these debates. She even went as far as to be respectful I’m not trying to hurt others feelings when she visibly seen them get frustrated
@@wiz7650right, it was like she had points she was planning to bring up ahead of time and couldn’t understand the conversation otherwise. Talking and not listening.
lauren needs a reality check, ed help, and behavioral therapy
the girl in the red dress (lauren i think?) is incredibly privileged to think everyone is able to live the same way she is
I laughed so hard when Lauren said “Skinny people” don’t go to the junk food aisle 😂😂 Just because someone is skinny doesn’t mean they are healthy ✌🏽
Lol yea they say junk food is horrible but people like Parker thinks it’s fine to not eat for entire days
@@sweet3488 And Lauren was really vibing with that grapes and lettuce only diet 😂 Ah yes, fiber and fructose bombs. So healthy.
@@leftunsupervisedshe literally said the exact opposite. She was actually anti dieting
Facts, I’ve been skinny my whole life and got high cholesterol 💀💀
@@AlesBejr-jk2py Thank you. I don't know why people keep ignoring what words mean in favor of how they are feeling about a word at the time they are typing it.
Lauren is so blind to her privilege, it’s tragic. In the US, no, everyone doesn’t have the choice to walk into a doctor’s office (which is hundreds of dollars….) and get checked. Crazy that she made that suggestion
Agree. Her responses were pretty out of touch.
If you realy care about yourself you will get the money for your health.
Btw in Russia it's free.
plus not everyone lives close to a grocery store !
@@Eroshenkovain america average people can’t afford it. Have family ther but am from europe and its really nit accesible to many people there bc like for some its either paying for food and school and rent or doctor
@@jaynez9027 nah, she keeps it real. No wonder she can manage her own weight.
We’re just a society that enables self victimisation. No accountability.
I really like the guy with glasses and red shorts. He knows that it's not black and white but grey. And the girl in the red dress is what my eating disorder sounds like.
Yes!! She gives off privileged to another degree
The issue with minimum wage jobs is not that those people can't afford to eat healthy. Its that minimum wage jobs often are the most time consuming. They don't have the tike to cook a healthy meal.
McDonald's isn't cheaper than rice and beans. But rice and beans takes longer to prep.
are we all just gonna ignore that Parker is clearly struggling with an eating disorder....
Not just him
I've seen several comments talking about it - so people aren't ignoring it.
Multiple ppl in this video have an eating disorder
I think he's aware of it as he did mention he is underweight so I hope he's geting the help he needs.
@@eleriamirayse6859 We're not talking about other people we're talking about Parker.
Dominick was definitely the voice of reason throughout this conversation. So refreshing to see someone who understands a problem and the other side's points and is able to logically and empathetically produce his
except when they were talking about food deserts
I appreciate how during diet culture discussion he asked for the other guys definition rather than just arguing with him without knowing what he considered to be "diet culture". It really shows that he is a cognitive thinker and he is trying very hard to consider everyone's background for their opinions.
No one should shame someone into doing anything. Negative reinforcement isn’t the way. Shaming is a psychological abuse tactic.
Dominick seems like such a down to earth kind person, i wish him and his wife n kids well ❤
They should do another episode to where it's the exact same prompt but this time it's nothing but doctors debating. That would be interesting
ooohhh yeah
Yeah except they’re not going to be debating because it’s not really a debate
@FKDame yes they would there's so many different opinions among various different doctors.
There would most likely not be a debate. Science shows that it is not healthy for someone to be overweight. In terms of beauty or ability to be a happy person, that is a different discussion, but most likely all doctors will agree from a health standpoint.
itd be hard to find a doctor that’s pro obesity
Lauren 100% has the same vibes as a mom who very much causes all her kids to have eating disorders and control issues. I really valued Dominik's self awareness though, he not only acknowledged that being skinny can also be unhealthy and that he himself has unhealthy eating habits but also showed a lot of empathy towards others while they were speaking about their experience.
Or or or, she teaches her kids healthy eating habits
@@GoldenGoosey26 Doubt it...she said she was for 'body shamming' someone into trying to get healthy. This is how self-image issues start, which can then lead to eating disorders. Body Shamming someone generally does not work. If anything, it can push more mental health issues.
true, I like how he actually admitted that his perspective has changed, which is the whole point of these videos I think
How do you figure? I see her as the voice of reason. Obesity is not healthy, period. She was also not shying away from the FACT that obesity is not visually appealing to anyone save for people with fetishes.
@@GoldenGoosey26 My mother who is somewhat similar to Lauren and it has made me fairly unhealthy... Like I will feel like when she is not around I just need to stuff my mouth with bad food because its the only time when I dont have to worry about her judgement. I will say, to some extent the things she says make a lot of sense however she takes it a bit to far and struggles to understand that living a healthy lifestyle is not a one size fits all thing.
I love the diverse group of people in this video! They all have their own experiences and can learn from each other!
Dominic is a well knowledged person who is logical, and he is able to communicate well to others without belitting them by being self-aware
He seems very nice but he is not informed about seed oils. There is so much false information about seed oils being spread
This should be renamed Anorexia vs Binge Eating Disorder. In the first 5 minutes that one guy said he chooses to go without food some days. Literally every person on this panel has said something that relates to disordered eating. Jubilee needs to vet their speakers better because both sides are just pushing an unhealthy lifestyle.
Yh 100%. Jubilee just loves to get outliers in the discussion. While still interesting takes away from what the debate should’ve been.
Exactly.
Yeah, I thought that was incredibly strange. Once I saw the skinny guy I immediately thought he had an eating disorder or something.
The skinny side is definitely not 'anorexic', having disordered eating and being skinny is not the same as anorexia.
Yup
Being skinny doesn’t mean your healthy but being obese means you are unhealthy. I think parents have a duty to make sure their kids are healthy, both mentally and physically (and being overweight pertains to both)
@@KaitlinSkilton not very often you can say its not food related. people will always come up with excuses
@@KaitlinSkilton look at other countries, clearly something is going on that’s severely unproportionate. not just conditions as it’s made out to be
@@KaitlinSkiltonyes and this apparently uncommon thing seems to affect mostly Americans it seems. Definitely not the fact the USA is known for junk foods high in sugar and with less care about what chemicals go in than most other countries
And emotionally!
@@KaitlinSkilton it's a bit of a stereotype that the woman always looks for the exception and not the rule. Are we really going to pretend that 60% of the adult US population all have genetic diseases?
as someone who is very skinny, I strongly agree that we get bullied and negative comments on how ''skinny'' we are. I have never met anyone who hasn't at least comment on my body telling me I'm thin and under weight. I am trying to gain weight, it's equally as hard and both are a huge struggle, gaining or losing weight is hard overall. however you look just feel healthy with yourself, the rest doesn't matter
I'm a smaller women , and I can eat healthy and I can also eat whatever I want and maintain an acceptable weight. So every one bodies are completely different.
I dont agree with everything said, but I am so glad about how relaxed the conversation was. Not much shaming, no screaming, no talking over each other.
Same. After watching the trans debate this was really refreshing.
Even when they obviously physically disagreed with someone talking, they weren't taking it to the next level by being unnecessarily rude. Nice to see the episodes coming back to actual discussions instead of just screaming matches.
They were talking over each other sometimes, perhaps not significantly enough to change the atmosphere of the conversation.
The fats should be shamed.
@@jayart7928i hope this is a joke
This discussion needed more people at healthy weights and with healthy relationships with food. Even the skinny people exhibit a lot of disordered behaviors from what I can tell, based on what they’ve told us
When Parker openly said he “chooses” not to eat some days, it screamed depravation to me. Sure there are days when you’re not hungry and your body doesn’t prompt to eat, but if you’re actively making the choice to suppress when your body is telling you you’re hungry is harmful.
I kinda wanna see the opposite, morbidly obese vs diagnosed anorexic.
@@TheDevastator619not necessarily no. Fasting is great for lots of people
Exactly both sides seemed kinda…Struggling…
I'm pretty sure he meant that his appetite is so low that he wouldn't eat because he talked about it as an unhealthy thing@@TheDevastator619
I love how it starts off with the disagreers for the first prompt explaining the nuances around her weight and the skinny girl continues to list things that may be out of your control as a choice. @3:57
I love the congeniality and well-manneredness of the plus-sized people. Great conversation and great questions.
This was one of the most genuinely productive episodes they’ve had in a while-no arguing, yelling, passive aggression etc
Productive for me is when the debate has quality and brings a logical fresh light to the subjet: but this episode was one of the most unproductive ones since no facts, no arguments structure, no science was brought, only weak opinions based on emotions ://
@@ymoonysun9130 baby steps baby steps lol
@@ymoonysun9130huh?
None of this was productive. Not shouting at each other is the barest of. Minimums
@@ymoonysun9130I disagree, an argument doesn’t need a statistic attached to it if it can still provide sound reasoning to its basis. And there was a decent amount of times that deductive reasoning was applied from both sides, maybe not always perfectly, but fair points were discussed
Lauren was embarrassing to be honest. "Skinny people don't eat junk food". She also was implying that only skinny people can wear bikinis and provocative outfits but that bigger people shouldn't. She seemed very clueless.
I am hoping she learned a lot from being on this episode of middle ground because it seemed like there was a lot she didn’t know.
She was def trying to be combative when everyone else seemed to be having a really empathetic back and forth
@@whalium889so true
When Madeline said she was the average weight of a woman in the U.S. and Lauren shook her head aggressively… she definitely seemed fatphobic. I say that as a skinny girl. She definitely wanted to be condescending and rude to them
@@elizabethrhiannon2924 IOW, she very badly wanted to "Show Her Concern"(TM). Funny how such "concerned" people just can't quite get to the point of faking empathy long enough to be convincing.
there's food deserts in the city too. Businesses are not willing to put their businesses in dangerous neighborhoods, and public transportation is also bad. There are a lot of people without cars that need to take the bus to go to the store, and haul their groceries back home on the bus
wonder what people did before cars?
I once heard someone who had a drug addiction and a food addiction. Say that the food addiction was way worse because we have to eat everyday while the drugs he took weren't something he had to do. So the over eating temptation is always there for him every time he ate.
People can definitely change their lot in life but it's definitely not an easy thing for certain people to overcome. It's much easier to never be obese and maintain that.
In some ways it's a choice, in other ways, it isn't.
Dominick seems like a great guy and came off as very intelligent and level-headed. Props to him.
I hope Dominick see's all of the support from the comments on this video and always feels motivated to achieve his personal health goals so that he can have the future he wishes for - he deserves it!
I agree!
I wish I could participate on this discussion, love talking about it and meeting people that know how to be polite when expressing their opinions is so great
My step sister and I grew up together eating the same thing as children, but she was more addicted to sugar, candy, and junk food. She was always extremely thin, and her doctors told her as an adult that it was dangerous how thin she is. I was more focused on living a healthy lifestyle, but I have always struggled with weight. I exercised a lot more and ate healthy food, but I was always a little overweight and she was always too thin. This had little to do with our lifestyle.
“Skinny people don’t go into snack isles “ GIRL WHAT 😭😭😭
Lauren is a horrible, horrible person.
They go to it but just take less
Skinny adults, especially as they age, do avoid a lot of junk.
Them skinny people be eating the mosssssttt
@@ashlynnhillegas3960total calorie intake is lower for skinny people
“I choose not to eat some days.” Babes, that’s called an eating disorder. 1:26
Crazy how people are casually overlooking Parker stating he has an eating disorder
Fasting is not a eating disorder, some people fast for religious reasons first of all and this has been practiced for centuries. There are also numerous studies on the health benefits of fasting such as increasing memory, regulating insulin (decreasing risk for type 2 diabetes) fasting enhances heart health by improving blood pressure, triglycerides, and cholesterol levels therefore reducing risk for heart conditions. Fasting increases the generation of nerve cells to help enhance cognitive function and reduce inflammation. Fasting increases growth hormone secretion research shows that this key hormone is involved metabolism, weight loss, and muscle growth. Several studies have found that fasting could naturally increase HGH levels. One review article noted that fasting for 37.5 hours can increase basal HGH concentrations by as much as ten times and also reduces the metabolic rate at which the body clears HGH. Several animal studies have found promising results on the potential lifespan-extending effects of fasting. the effects of periodic fasting on the human gut and found that fasting increased the diversity of helpful bacteria in the gut microbiome, including the Christensenella species, which are related to longevity. The researchers also noted an increase in sirtuins, proteins involved in metabolic regulation that are also associated with longevity. Fasting could reduce tumor progression and increase chemotherapy’s effectiveness. Calling fasting a eating disorder regardless of someone’s religious beliefs or health reasons is incredibly ignorant.
@marymcintyre1702 fasting isn't an ED, but he later acknowledged he's severely underweight. Earlier he said he chooses to be skinny. It's all red flags to me
He seems happy doing it though and he’s not victimizing himself. So I don’t see an issue with it.
I was surprised it took me this long to find this comment! Or that more people weren’t bringing it up.
Now do a reunion in 15 years and see whos still alive
lol fax
Probs not Lauren, with all that judgemental bias at the ready 😅
If you hate yourself while trying to lose weight then you’re most likely not going to either lose the weight or keep the weight off. Loving yourself through the whole process will not only grow you physically but mentally and emotionally. ❤
because it's so easy to just love yourself?
I really don't think Madeline is considered average size as she claims.
Yeah like a quick google shows its about 170lbs. I don't think she's 170...
I almost spat out my damn water when she said she was the average.
i had to pause the video and just stare at disbelief in what she said
Maybe it's because she's so top heavy that can make you look so much bigger
Height contributes to how weight looks on someone. She's pretty short
The plus-size community needs more people like Dominic to speak up because if a skinny person says what he said, it doesn't come off the same/ some might feel it's fatphobia, but if he says it, it's more accepted.
It's sad that the Western society is like that. I think humans with different backgrounds should all have a voice
Are you sure he’s plus sized? Because most plus sized people are healthy. Since plus sized is just a bigger build instead of overweight or obese
@@jeffisjeff5511😂😂😂no plus sized is obesity, in almost every example of it
@@gur262 Plus sized isn’t obesity. They both are different things. Please do research because it’s very bad to spread misinformation. Many plus sized people are healthy. They just have bigger bodies which would be healthy for them. Again plus sized and obesity are completely different. Don’t mesh them together.
@@jeffisjeff5511I’m pretty sure plus sized is simply an umbrella term that refers to anyone above the average weight across a population. This can include oversight, obese, or morbidly obese. At least that is what the trustworthy sources purport.
It is not about being skinny or obese. Both are unhealthy in their own ways. It is about being healthy. Your weight should correspond with your height and vice versa.
what about being skinny alone is unhealthy?
Dom is the realest one there. Very self aware and he doesn’t play the victim card nor does he play the body positivity movement. Massive respect to him and I hope he’s inspired to lose the weight.
Madeline did not just say she is average weight
Yeah that was insane
She said she was the closest out of all of them. The average size in the US is like a size between a 14-16 now
The average hieght and weight of women in america is 170lbs and 5’4 😰
@@n0isy-ratAin't no way💀🤚
@@Goosebeoms_ idk how true it is because it’s google but that’s what it says.
As an African who moved to America, food and the food system has been one of the biggest challenges that I have experienced. It's a system that's not for the people at all! and it's even worse for the poor e.g. homeless people. The food quantities are abnormal, vegetables are way more expensive than junk food, there's a lot of variety of junk food. Food here is more for pleasure than for nutritional value.
Agree. After moving to the US I gained so much weight. And the creziest thing is that I'm gaining weight from simple stuff like potatoes, for example. It doesn't matter if I boil them or grill I still gaining weight. Back home I could it potatoes as much as I want and never gained even one pound.
@@Summer-ke5essame with meat quality. I suspect the way they raise farm animals here is different that contributes to the obesity epidemic.
Should be the number 1 comment.
its so crazy cuz for example in Switzerland,which is where i live, most American foods aren‘t even allowed bc of how much chemical and just generally unhealthy stuff is in them.
I always hear about immigrants eating the same diet they had from their home country and still gaining weight. There must be something in our food that causes this
I really enjoyed Dominick's perspective, perfect balance, and accountability, while also having grace and understanding!
“Your body like to be at certain weights” 😂😂😂 that an insane statement
It’s true
Especially when she’s obese! Lol
@@DealthTheGreat 😭
Now this is a DISCUSSION! It doesn’t matter what side you’re on, people sitting down with opposing views and still being able to have a civil adult conversation while not cutting each other off and really LISTENING to all sides even if they don’t agree is super underrated
funny thing is: this wasn't 2 opposite views, it was 2 opposite body types. Most of them have similar views which makes this a very weird jubilee versus.
There is only one correct side in this discussion. Being obese shouldn't be normalised and shouldn't be accepted. All I heard from the obese people were lies about their eating habits and lies about how great they feel. When you start to see their behaviour from the addiction perspective, their lying and deceit makes a lot more sense.
lol my name twin! Are you Nigerian or Nigerian American?
i feel like this is one of the healthiest jubilee discussions i've seen and that's sad
@@tartantulakid666then your lying about liking to be skinny
As someone who has been both severely underweight AND overweight, the way I was treated while overweight was so much worse. Sure, I was made fun of while I was too thin - but doctors believed me, strangers were kinder to me, the world accomodated me.
OMG THIS! I was overweight and nobody ever batted an eye to me, never got compliments, etc. Lost 30 lbs due to depression and there were so many compliments but I was in such a worse mindset. I've gained back around 14lbs and I've been so happy even though the compliments went away. It's crazy how our weight (even just a minimal amount in change) can make people view us differently in seconds.
Actually I agree with this overweight people do have it worse when It comes to bullying but it comes to compliments I think it's because people overlook how harmful it is to be under weight. As they aren't as noticeable at a glance as clothes often times hide it
Bingo!
I grew up very overweight, I don’t think I ever hit clinical obesity but there was no mistaking how big I was. When I finally lost weight the treatment I received from others made me want to cry and so I kept going until I was nearly underweight.
When I say I went from getting zero attention (dating wise) to being hit on I mean it. When “nobody” cares about you and then you suddenly have people telling you how amazing you look and should feel it does something to you psychologically and physically
True, but being underweight is also a HUGE struggle that so many people are overlooking and feel free to comment and judge on easily since "you're skinny".
It’s pretty privilege. People are subconsciously nicer to better looking people. It’s got nothing to do with how healthy you are just how sexually attractive you look. It’s pretty messed up but it’s life
did y’all notice how they labeled the overweight/obese people as “plus size” and the others as “skinny” instead of “underweight/normal weight”
Lauren needs to stop talking and listen more. If you're unfamiliar with food deserts, don't act like you know what you're talking about, talk over people, or invalidate others' experiences. Check your privilege of having access to a car, gas money, time to shop, an accessible grocery store, time and ability to cook, etc. ❤
“I have a lot of empathy” - Lauren
Lauren shouldn't be interrupting people, she should be listening to them. She's ignorant and comes across as uneducated, privileged, and immature. She has some growing to do.
@@Itz_IzeckI feel bad for ur wife
@@Itz_Izeckain't no way
I mean, you should stop people from spreading lies. Being obese is unhealthy.
Exactly! She was so comfortable with being wrong and she doesn’t even realize she living a sad and judgmental life. Just wrong all around.
@@Itz_IzeckTyler it took me two clicks to find your socials, you really wanna be putting this out there?
I'd love it if Jubilee made a common ground or spectrum videos about bullying, such as people who were bullied and even former bullies who stopped bullying.
Ohh, I’d watch this. I’d like to hear some of the thought processes
YESSSSSA
yes
Usually, bullies are not aware that they are bullies.
yeah, but how would you define that, because most bullies were bullied at home or by other people, most of the so-called victims of bullies have been bullies themselves, I feel like everyone on earth has been both a bully and the victim of a bully at some point
Saying she's the average weight is WILD, it's just not true.
Well historically it's not but nowadays it is actually the average weight.
shame doesn’t work as a motivator. people can only change through love.
I disagree. We pushed love and now the majority think being obese is beautiful and healthy
@@sidcrook-hutsler9155ignorant
My mom pointed out I gained a lot of weight, looked unhealthy and unlike myself when I was 30. I lost that weight FAST.
Topic idea: Parents of multiple children vs. People who are childfree by choice
Some prompt suggestions:
I've been judged for my choices
My moral or religious beliefs have contributed to my decision
I feel represented in social media
I sometimes envy the other side
this is the most interesting suggestion ive seen @jubilee 👈👈
Additional prompt: my financial habits and goals contributed to my choice
This! I have a feeling they’ll make that video soon because it’s very topical
Yes!
Yesss
Lauren messed up a lot of very easy debate points and surprisingly Dominic seemed to be the most down to earth of the cast. His reasoning is probably a reflection of the way society currently treats overweight men in comparison to overweight women.
Edit: to add i reckon they should've had a bodybuilder as part of the cast as well
I COMPLETELY AGREE. There were so many points that that could've been made, but it seemed that they chose subjective points instead of actually looking at the concrete answers.
I think they should have added a section of “average people” with BMIs for 20-30.
Like me for instance I am 153 and 5’6 I have a BMI of 25. From my personal experience obesity is a choice in the winter my weight usually gets up to around 155 due to less activity and holiday foods. Then in the summer I will usually lose 5-10 pounds simply because I tend to be more active. This isn’t genetics it my personal eating and exercise habits.
Lauren is so privileged. She’s telling people to make choices like going to the endocrinologist and buying healthy foods yet so many people CANNOT AFFORD THIS. Insurance is not free. Not everyone has enough money to buy fruits and veggies and nutritional food. She needs to go get off her high horse and go realize not everyone is as privileged as her.
And it's her fault that they are broke? LOL more excuses from fatties.
I've always found it interesting that people default to skinny being more healthy than obese. Like when you are on a medication that impacts your weight, you can CHOOSE to go off of it because you have free will - but that doesn't make it the healthier choice?
medication impacting your weight doesn't make skinny the less or equal healthiest option to obesity
nah the way Lauren was slowly shaking her head when Madeline said she was the average weight for women in America 💀. 10.32
Lol she like no im the only example of average
like wtf shawty said she average weight at like 300 pounds
Yea I was like pretty sure the average weight is 170 lbs in America… 😭
I mean she was actively wrong. There is *no way* that woman is 170lb’s or lighter. Which is fine. I could not care less how much she weighs. I do think it’s a false perception of either herself or the rest of society.
Because Madeline is delusional
As someone who has lost a ton of weight (45kg aka 100 pounds), it is definitely difficult to lose weight. Getting over that initial craving / transition period is really really hard. However, once you get past that first month or so it does get easier. And it feels so much better! You can do so many more things more easily, and life just generally improves. If you are currently going through the weight loss process, don't give up, you can do this, I did, so you definitely can!
Great job on your progress! I absolutely agree. I was the opposite, I was once 130 pounds at 6’3, and lean bulked 60-65 pounds over a few years. The hardest part was definitely near the beginning, changing your life long eating habits is super tough. After about 30 pounds gained, I felt like I had developed much better habits and was much happier and just kept going from there.
@@poejavelski148 Sounds like you've done amazing mate, congratulations on your successful efforts. I will say, as someone who has been on both sides of the spectrum, it is still difficult for me not to either undereat or potentially overeat, however, i'm doing my best to maintain a healthy lifestyle, and in the end that's all we can do. Do our best to be the best version of ourselves we can
@@mengl29 Love to hear it, keep doing what you’re doing 💪
Thank you for sharing. There are so many weight loss stories on this app that are very inspiring.
@@JW-1089No, thank you for taking the time to read it, I appreciate it
Crazy...Why are most the women on the panel making up reasons/excuses on why they are unable to eat healthy, and the only overweight guy on the panel is actually taking accountability on poor eating habits/choices