Fat acceptance TikTok cringe | "Fight thin supremacy!"
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When people in the most privileged country in the world, need a struggle to be different🤚🏽
This!
For realz. As someone born in a 3rd world country, American struggles like this seems ridiculous
@@RUAmplified true
@@RUAmplified You know a country made it when their biggest issue is misgendering people, unfortunately...
Privileged countries have health systems accessible to everyone. Not only those earning $100k+.
calling doctors fatphobic when they tell you to lose weight is the most ignorant thing ive ever heard and seen.
I think they are I went to a cardiologist because I enlarged left atrium I didn’t know I would be healed a month later he told me to lose some weight then he wanted me to travel there in 3 months to check my cholesterol when I have a doctor closer instead of an hour and a half away my heart was fine so I never went back.
@@MelB868 I don’t think that’s a size thing. I once went to a hospital because of a panic attack and they ended up keeping me there for eight hours doing rigorous tests on me for blood clots. Obviously I didn’t have any blood clots, and it took them right up until the end of my stay there to actually address the thing that I initially went there for.
The reason they wanted to test for cardiovascular issues in the first place was because I had an elevated heart rate (I wonder why).
If you have a minor long term health problem (in my case, chronic mental illness) your doctor is going to be concerned over how that’s affecting your overall health. And even though it will always feel like a complete waste of time to you that doesn’t make it bad practice.
@Prevodi na srpski 👏👏👏👏exactly
It is extremely common with these fa
These people are pathetic
The trans girl literally put being black on the same level as being fat.
it's always the fat acceptance movement trying to force themselves into the same category as poc or the disabled for the victimhood or because of internal guilt or something i guess-- like you know how if you're black one day you can suddenly chose to just not be black anymore? or how, if you're wheelchair-bound, you can suddenly decide to stand and walk and not be disabled anymore? all EXACTLY the same thing as being obese, lol. /j
That seems to be the new "Thing" for the Fat-Acceptacte community. To say that being thin is basically the same as being Fat & not walking to be fat is being racist. BUT... they are basically saying that Black people are more Fat (now adays) because they are Fatter... but it was a thing back in the day where there were drawing & writings about Black Women being more curvy... and that made white people want to be thin. So these white fat women are using Racism to defend them being obese & why we should like it.... yes I have watch way too many of there... my brain is now soup.
They all do that 🙄
Yeah the people in these fat acceptance videos are always doing that lol. Theyre almost always white too.
i hate the victimization of blacks, its incredibly insulting and degrading
As someone with anorexia, I really hate the misconceptions about bodychecking. Checking yourself out in the mirror or admiring/observing your body every now and then is NOT bodychecking.
Bodychecking is posing in weird positions so that your ribs and hip bones stick out, it’s obsessively closing your fingers around your wrists, your arms, your thighs, it’s pinching the fat on your stomach, it’s taking pictures of yourself every day so that you can excessively compare them to see if you’ve gained/lost weight. Bodychecking is an all consuming part of eating disorders and becomes addictive. It’s a way of feeding into your eating disorder, so it really irks me when people think just checking your body out in a mirror is the equivalent to actively encouraging your mental illness.
Thank. You. So. Fking. Much. God it pains meeee
My goodness finally someone said it
Bc could also be dragging your fingers over your hipbones, collarbones or wrist bones, because it gives me the comforting feeling that I can still feel them, I’m not “fat” yet
Thank you for addressing this and sharing your own struggles. People don’t understand that real checking becomes so obsessive and engrained, it can spiral out of your own control. It’s infuriating to hear people say that it’s being done to be trendy/cute when that has nothing to do with what drives it, at all.
You got it so right! As someone who's also been there, I hope you can recover. I did and life is so much better. You got this ❤❤
"The BMI is Racist and Transphobic." OK...we'd also like you to not die under anesthesia, madam, because if your family is anything like as entitled as you are, they will sue the hospital and doctor. The BMI chart I pulled up just showed absolutely no differentiation by gender, skin color, or any other measurement other than weight and height. From the looks, sixty pounds is an entirely reasonable amount to lose.
You don't owe anybody weight loss, as they say. However, no doctor owes you their skills as a surgeon if you won't follow their orders pre-surgically for a safe experience. Deal with it.
I found it so annoying how she didn’t mention anything about anesthesia, thats the main reason that I know of why doctors ask to lose or gain weight for surgery, especially if it’s not urgent. They literally don’t want to risk you dying on the table because of a miscalculation.
@@agusretegui9619 Truth.
@@agusretegui9619 not to mention lower risk of blood clots post sugery, issues for pain management due to weight reducing the effectiveness of medicine, surgery complications, and so much more.
People forget that BMI doesn’t exist in a vaccume. It’s you BMI+what your doctor sees+what the doctor can meaure using tools. You can just look at someone and generally tell if someone has high muscle or high fat on their body. That makes a difference for the BMI. You can observe if they are struggling to move or get out of breath easily, which will inform how to interpret the BMI. You can see if a person is flushed or if their lips are blue, which can inform how you interpret the BMI. You can feel if their skin is clamy, or if their heart rate is fast, and that will also inform how you read the BMI. You use instruemnts to read someone’s blood preassure and again this informs how you view the BMI. If the BMI is high and th eperson is high fat, high blood preassure, high puls, is clamy and flushed, has trouble moving and gets out of breath easily then it might be that lowering one of those factors might help the rest. The easiest, most natural, least invasive, and least prone to complications is lowering the BMI. Sure it’s not nessacerily the end all be all of that is going on, but you try this first and then invetigate further if the issues aren’t going away. You can’t just throw meds at every problem, and even if you could it’s much harder to get dosage right for people who have very high fat percentage. This is super important in surgery situations especially. The risk of dying on the opperating table is so much higher.
@@MissCaraMint Egg-zactly. My BMI is normal and average. Looking at me? Slightly pudgy. Just a little, in the "could lose ten, fifteen pounds" range.
I have a slight frame combined with a very sedentary job. I don't have trouble breathing, don't have any severely off indicators, I'm...just a wee bit pudgy.
It's not perfect, but it's one tool to start with.
The breast augmentation one made me want to scream. Girl, they literally can't stitch you back together if there's too much fat. The sutures don't hold fat together since it is so squishy. They want you to lose weight before major surgeries because THEY CANT STITCH YOU BACK UP!! Yes, the anesthesia is also risky but that's not even as big of a risk nowadays. The issue is not that you're "unhealthy," the risk is that your physical fat will make the surgery even harder. ESPECIALLY since she said she's on hormones because now she has more fat distributed to her chest. That's also why a lot of surgeons recommend fad diets/fast weight loss diets because they don't really care if you gain the weight back or not. How you lose weight is up to you and what you do after the surgery is up to you. Nowhere is there anything about fatphobia or racism.
Sutures or staples pulling apart leaving the wound to open is called dehiscing and is really ugly. It may take up to a year for your surgery to completely heal, and it's going to leave an ugly ugly scar, that is if it heals at all.
I've lost 10lbs over the last several weeks not from doing an extreme diet or exercising excessively. Just by portion controlling, being more mindful of what foods I'm eating in a day so I'm not getting as many empty calories, and walking more. That's it. You don't have to go to extremes in order to make positive changes for your health and anyone equating it to an eating disorder or fatphobia is ridiculous.
Dude same, I lost about the same by just eating less. Not saying it’s easy but it’s for sure possible
@@Anagrace44 Congrats! I will say the portion control was definitely difficult at first because I was so used to overeating but now that I'm eating the correct portions for me and my body has gotten used to it it's so much easier! The difference between a crash diet with too heavy of restrictions and forming good eating habits.
Who gives a shiiiii
@@easypeasylemonsqueezy4 I do. I give a shit that people make healthy choices and lose weight instead of screaming fatphobia.
@@easypeasylemonsqueezy4 plenty of people care
That video about people not hiring fat personal trainers or nutritionists🤣 like, would you hire a makeup artist, if the make-up they were wearing was awful, even if they did attend the best make up school in the world? No, you would not
If she wants to be a body builder tomorrow, she better listen to the overweight, out of shape guy rather than ppl who look like the Rock, if not then she's a devilish, horrible fatpobic nasty human being.
Even if you're skinny but don't have abs or a really flat stomach, I'm not going to take your advice on how to get & maintain a toned belly more that the person who has one,
does that mean I'm fat-bloated-belly-phobic? I guess so . Chances are If she actually wants to lose weight she won't listen to someone who looks like herself either.
And these are the first people to make assumptions on people's political views based on how they look. Like it or not, appearances matter.
If a fat trainer said they'd train me for free I'd still say no.
So growing up my sister (who has mental illness she now is medicated for) use to say the most horrific things like “I would never let a fat person do my hair or makeup because they would sabotage me out of jealousy”. I would tell her “don’t you realize they are also people”?. Ironically 25 years later she is a nurse and she is fat now.
There are ‘fat’ PT’s but they’re usually formerly part of some Olympic sport like weight lifting- a lot of them are ‘fat’, or even ‘obese’ but they’re athletic, and eat a very specific diet to maintain a certain mass. Checkout some shotput athletes etc. you’ll be surprised. Some PTs are also former heavy weight boxers Etc. They know a lot about fitness and can train you well but have packed extra pounds over the years.
This is very different to any old fat or obese person tho. One type of fat holds less visceral fat than the other due to constant training routines, and specific diets.
So entitled to feel like they can tell a surgeon who and on what terms they operate on you. A surgeon doesn't need to operate on you if they don't feel comfortable doing so... that is it.
The fact that you even have access to that… just do what they say 🙄
And then the surgeons who are brave enough to put them under their knives and it results in a mortality
Gets that thrown in their face "see they didn't need that surgery they died because of it"
Sure it's because of that not the extra 400lbs crushing their skeletal system
the bmi isn't racist or transphobic. this is from a half-native transsexual man who has a bmi of 21 and lost 30lbs over one year. if you want the surgery that bad, you will do what you need to in order to get it.
you’re spectacular
@@vivianp3831 You're
BMI is an accurate tool for average bodies. It's just that it hurts your ego. When I was in my 20's I thought that I was just chubby, but my BMI told me that I was well overweight. It hit me hard and at first I didn't want to think about it more. Then I dropped the weight and became healthy and sportive and I can say now that I was actually overweight, BMI don't lie. Unless you're a super muscular bodybuilder, BMI will tell you exactly what you need to know
@@veruschkadahmer1805 perfect explanation of the truth of BMI. It can hurt your feelings to know the truth but sometimes the truth hurts. My husband does not even look that big but he is “obese”. When we had our wellness checkups they said I needed to lose 22lbs to be in a healthy BMI and he needed to lose 70. He did not want to believe it.
Imagine the mental gymnastics that woman went through so much so that she wrote A BOOK rather than just trying to be the best version of herself physically & mentally. Confidence & authenticity is all u need, no need to write a book complaining & trying to change "beauty standards"
Yep! The energy that is put into writing books and pseudo-intellectualizing could have been used to make slow but steady lifestyle changes…
But then she couldn't sell her BS to gullible people and wouldn't earn any money by doing so.
Lots of mental gymnastics going on now a days
That’s trans person talking about breast augmentation, THATS ELECTIVE SURGERY!! you don’t need to have breasts I get it your trans but if the requirements are that you have to lose 60lbs so the surgery would be safer then the doctor is within their right to suggest that or not do the surgery because he/she will not risk someone dying on their table having elective surgery because they didn’t want to meet the prerequisites for said surgery. God what kind of world are we living in man that medical professionals have to deal with people like this and then get told their transphobic or racists or “fat phobic” (fat phobia is not a real thing it’s what people claim when they’re too lazy, lack self accountability and won’t admit they’re addicted to food and or gluttony)
Insurance is covering their surgery. Insurance won’t even cover breast augmentation after mastectomies from cancer. I hate the world.
He can always found a doc to do it anyway.
@@somethingsomethingdarkside4603 unrelated and just a rant but in the USA, my mom had breast cancer and the insurance decided to pay for mastectomy but only on one side. She appealed and they said no. She later got cancer again on the other side. Also I work with health care equipment services and the stupid requirements they have (even medicare) ppl jump through to provide stuff a doctor already said was medically necessary are just mind blowing
@@Willowy13 she*
It boggles my mind the number of people who think they know more about medicine than their doctor. Obviously not every doctor is great, but in general they are trying to help you be as healthy as possible.
It’s like trusting a carpenter who’s house is collapsing, or a mechanic who’s car is always broken down. Why would any sensible person do that?
@@amandak.4246 “iTs WhOsE sO yOu KnOw!”
@@Vasileva85 She was trying to help you not look stupid calm down
@@sawcon8063 it's a CZcams comment not an academic paper. They understood OPs comment even with the grammar mistake but still felt the need to point it out... comes off very grammar nazi.
@@WhiteCloudProductions Reacting in a volatile way to someone correcting you shows a lack of emotional intelligence. Being corrected when you’re wrong, regardless of context, should just be an ‘Oh okay’ situation, or not even require a response, mocking someone for that is so insecure and childish
@@sawcon8063 @saw con I don't entirely agree, because you shouldn't have to just accept unwarranted help if you don't want to. You shouldn't have to begrudgingly accept unsolicited help like saying "oh, okay." Just because you expect people to be nice 100% of the time. For all you know OP constantly deals with grammar nazis everytime they comment. Maybe today is just not a day they feel like taking other people's bs.
My point is don't give unsolicited advice/help to random strangers, their reaction may be rude but by giving unsolicited advice/help to a random stranger you were the first one to be rude. It's kind of a Karen move to complain about a stranger's rude behavior when you were the first to be rude.
Former intimate apparel specialist here: That woman talking about getting a breast augmentation and being mad about the doctors telling her to lose weight is an idiot. Losing weight-no matter your size will change your breast shape and in most cases, its size. They were trying to save her some money…
She’s trans. She likely wants top surgery to have bigger, fuller breasts because hormones themselves often aren’t enough. I highly doubt losing weight will give her bigger, fuller breasts and doubt even more that a surgeon was trying to “save her money”. What is more likely is that they wanted her to lose weight because surgery can be very dangerous for fat people (particularly going under general anasthesic) as well as the risk of complications afterwards being much higher. These are things they don’t need bloodwork to know are risk factors.
@@dawn6199 But she will find a doc to do it then be all upset at any of the likely complications
@@Lela-plants if she is still there to complain :/ if a blood clot causes a cardiac arrest, she may well die. I don't think she realises how serious surgery is, even more so for someone who's overweight or obese. I hope she comes to her senses.
@@Lela-plants that’s likely the main reason the surgeon doesn’t want to do it in the first place. At her weight, a breast augmentation would be almost guaranteed to not look too good. It’s hard to operate and make all that fat look aesthetically please and natural with implants. It’s like drawing on a canvas that has scribbles printed into the paper.
@@kaydenl6836 I know the risks, I’m a nurse. Lol. I just also know that somewhere is a doc who will do it for her. They may have her sign a release of responsibility/disclaimer of some sort but they will do it. And she will have every complication because that’s how it always works.
Fat people need to realize that a lot of the “medical discrimination” they are describing also happens to underweight people. We are simply outside of the norm and our bodies are by default unhealthy.
I have gone to the Doctor’s because I felt sick, weak and dizzy. They also instantly told me to gain weight and that my symptoms are because of my low weight and low food intake.
I went to the ER later on and it turned out to be a concussion.
I honestly can’t blame the first doctor because who wouldn’t assume it was my body suffering the consequences of being underweight?
Imagine you’re a mechanic and a cars “check engine” light is burning. The first thing you’d do is assume the engine is broken, not the light, right?
The doctor can tell that there is something wrong with our bodies just by looking at us so that is the obvious choice.
I also experienced actual medical discrimination like a doctor refusing to operate on me in a high stakes situation because I’m transgender and that went against his beliefs. That’s actual discrimination, not just someone stating a medical fact. I’m lucky other surgeons were available that day, no idea what would have happened if I hadn’t gotten that surgery tbh.
The girl with the breast aug:
The surgeon was most likely concerned about anesthesia and operating on you.
1) full anesthesia carries certain risks with it, no matter how healthy a person is. Those risks get a lot higher when you’re over- or underweight.
I have also been turned away from surgeries with the very simple explanation that my surgeon doesn’t want to take the risk of having a person die on his table. I know it’s hard to believe for the bodypo crowd but doctors are humans, too and having someone die under your hands can be severely traumatizing for them. I gained weight for the surgery, recovered from it and then lost it again. If you aren’t willing to loose the weight you can’t be that desperate to get the surgery.
2) I work in a morgue and recently actually got the pleasure of helping in the dissection of a obese body.
The fat layer above your organs is super thick. It isn’t a big issue for us doing autopsies since we can just open a person up without having to worry about keeping them alive, however if you are trying not to kill the patient and eventually close them up again with as small of a scar as possible it gets hard.
Certain sizes can make specific surgeries literally impossible to perform.
^ All of this. I too had a serious problem completely overlooked cuz of a buIIshi† stereotype that the doctor only saw me as, refusing to even consider my symptoms. But fat people need to fuel their victim complex, so they insist they're the only ones who experience this.
Traumatizing, not to mention all the possible legal issues involved including being charged with malpractice even if you didn't screw up anything.
Going under anesthesia when you are obese is quite dangerous so I can understand why a plastic surgeon would be hesitant to do an elective surgery on someone under such conditions. There's your health risk.
it's also just harder to operate iirc. the extra fat makes it harder for surgeons to actually perform the operation
Life is like a box of chocolate: it doesn't last long when you're fat.
I am like a box of chocolates. Eat me.
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You aren’t wrong lmao
@@BronzeDragon133 gayyyyyy
"You can't judge a person only by their bmi!"
Proceeds to call themselves healthy just because of good bloodwork.
GOD THEIR APPROPRIATION OF WORDS TRIGGERS THE SHIT OUT OF ME.
Saying "the skinny version of you" or "the fat version of you" is like saying "the long haired version of you" or "the short haired version of you." You don't become a completely different person when you cut your hair than you are when you grow it out. And you definitely don't become a different person when you're skinny than you are when you're fat.
As someone with an ED I have to kindly disagree. My whole personality, outlook on life, and way I feel and react to people and situations drastically changes depending on what weight I am at.
@Lalogue yes! I weight cycle kind of drastically (I think it corresponds with depressions symptoms?) and I'm so much happier and more outgoing in my skinny phases. I love shopping and caving and rock climbing. When I'm fatter, I am so unhappy and finding clothes is miserable, even showering is a chore.
That’s actually a super interesting comparison because while you don’t become a different person, the way people treat you does change whether you’re talking about fat/skinny or short hair/long hair. For instance, I’ve noticed men will treat women with long, beautiful hair much differently than women with super short hair, which probably has to do with people being nicer to people they find most attractive and long hair is in general seen as more attractive. But it’s kinda the same for fat versus skinny. If the man finds skinny more attractive, he’ll be less kind or even cold to a fat women sometimes. I know when I was fat, I felt invisible to men when I was out with my skinny friends. When I’m thinner, I get way more attention. Same thing with hair. I always get more looks when I wear extensions. That’s actually a very interesting comparison because it doesn’t change the person on the inside, but it changes our appearance and our appearance affects how we’re treated (which is sad really, but this is how the world works).
Transman here. I had to lose 60 lbs to be at 30 BMI to get my top surgery done. I didn’t think it was fatphobic or racist transphobic. It was for health reasons. Being under anesthesia while being obese is a high risk regardless. Also the healing takes a bit in some cases too. But yeah i lost 60 lbs in 4 months in time of my surgery and at first i doubted myself but now i look back and I’m proud. Losing 60 lbs for my surgery was a gate way into fitness. So i don’t understand what she’s talking about.
( 6:08 ) About the trans woman complaining about the surgeon: I´m pretty sure if you're over a certain amount of weight it can be really dangerous to perform such an invasive surgery. Not only may the post-op be more complicated, but there is also high risk of inflamation or even blood clots while in the operating room. I don't know how the bmi would work for a trans woman but that's something to see with a nutricionist, and why would the bmi be racist🤡? like whaaat? It's the calculum of your heigh and body mass, there's nothing to do with skin colour.
Also, she said that intermitent fasting is starving yourself and that's absolutely not true. My father used to weight aroung 230 pounds before starting his "weightloss journey" with intermitent fasting, it's been 4 months and he' down 44lbs of fat and gained 30lbs of muscle (he is also going to the gym 4 times a week). It's been doing wonders for his humor and mental health but mostly for his health, he had a risk of developing diabetes and has high blood presure and they are starting to be controled naturally (he used to take medication for high blood presure, I'm so proud of him).
I just get very frustrated at fat people who think like EVERYONE hate them for their weight...
"Please don't give me suggestions just positive comments." 🤣 They can't handle ANY criticism that isn't kissing their ass and agreeing with them.
It's sad that these addicts have given up on life, but it's infuriating that they're manipulating others into joining their life-style
At the height of my anorexia I got a tattoo and I'd use it as an indicator as to how small my ankle was. If I could get my one hand to reach around my leg above the tattoo I was okay in that moment. I constantly, for hours, would sit and contort myself to make sure my vertebrae were still able to be seen from all angles, convinced I had to turn this way and that, despite being 86 pounds. I'd check how much my hip bones stuck out while lying down by resting a cup up against them and if it stayed, I was okay for that 10 seconds, until I was sure I'd gotten it wrong and they had stopped sticking out so far. Don't get me started with the collar bone/wrist checking. These PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TRUE BODY CHECKING IS.
Your channel deserves so much more recognition. Your commentary is just going off facts and you don’t bring anyone down! It’s the highlight of my day when you post, thank you!😊❤️
I appreciate that so much
@@funtietimes We appreciate you and your work 😊
“I wrote a book about it”
Okay so you’re not crazy, you’re just giving a sales pitch.
Insanity and trying to sell something aren't always excluding each other 😉
Ahhhhh yes, the highly sought after medical treatment; breast implants. The absolute PRIVILEGE.
Oh my lord,why can't they just stop being lazy and hiding under the guise of fat acceptance and just take responsibility for their weight issues.I am from India,we already have alot of serious problem to deal with over here and i have come across so many amazing obese people here who have changed they themselves and got fit.
Even about myself,i used to be very skinny but now due to a healthy diet and proper exercise i have people asking me about my diet and workout routine.Its all about taking charge of your life,no body is going to do it for yourself but YOU.
Lazy people don't want to make the effort to change. They want the rest of the world to change to accomodate them.
Your comment on each video is exactly what I wanted to say. I’ve maintained a 150+ pound weight loss for almost 20 years. My life is exponentially better because of it.
As far as the surgery vid goes....doctors take on clients and the outcome of the surgery goes into their permanent stats, so they decide who they take on what they need from you. Find a sketchier doctor with already shitty stats that just want your money and see how it turns out.
“Buy my book or you’re fatphobic!!!”
And if she was black, racist.
As a trans guy, if I want top surgery (I can't afford it yet anyway but that's not the point), I need to build my pec muscles a bit. I'm currently very low muscle mass and pretty thin overall. Fyi building muscle is FAR harder than losing fat, especially for someone like me who has chronic pain and fatigue, but I'm not going to accuse surgeons of being ableist for this requirement. Wanna know why? If I get top surgery now (again let's ignore the price concerns haha), with so little volume to my pectoral muscles, my chest is at risk of ending up looking sunken and unnatural in the end. They need a good base to work off of what they're changing. They want you to have a good result and unhealthy levels of certain tissues can put you at much higher risks of bad outcomes and complications.
Also, it's inherently more dangerous to go under anaesthesia when you're overweight. For example they may be unable to get the breathing tube in safely due to the airways being compressed. Your heart is more likely to fail due to needing to circulate more blood. I'm pretty sure messed up metabolism can effect it too.
I wish you lots of success in the gym and that you get your surgery and feel amazing about yourself!!
@@jessicagoodson7452 Thank you!
If these people were given a choice to be fit by tomorrow they ALL would drop their little “movement” and go buy a new pair of skinny jeans.
It’s entirely plausible for EVERYBODY to go from a size XXL to a size M in about 14 months if you can stay on track and get an accountability. I’m even including cheat days and a couple of months of binging during the 14 month period. If you can’t count calories and that’s too confusing for you, do the weight watchers. They have dumbed it down for you.
I don’t wear jeans I hate denim buttons and zippers and skinny jeans are stupid I like comfortable clothing
And who cares about clothing size it’s numbers on fabric I have clothes from xl-2x and xxl is not the same as 2x it’s actually a half a size above xl I’m wearing 2x pajamas right now and it depends on how the clothes are made. Also cabana makes their sweat pants sizes stupid I tried on 3 different sizes 1x I couldn’t get on so I tried 2x I could get them on but they were tight in the waste so I tried 3x which fit in the waste but was entirely too big in the legs they fit stupid no wonder belk marked them from $50 to $14.95 they weren’t even worth a dollar with how they fit
As a personal trainer or nutritionist your body is your billboard. Would you trust an interior designer with an ugly house or a fashion stylists who only wears oversized sweats? No, because their house or outfit is the place they can show how they have utilized their knowledge. Sorry but that's just how it is.
It's like an active alcoholic trying to sponsor someone in AA or recovery, why would they want a drunk telling them that drinking is bad for them and to stop.
Also, there are lots of personal trainers who are fat, they're just training powerlifters or similar sports. Not like, bodybuilding or aesthetic fitness
how is it fatphobic for your doctor to tell you to lose weight so that you’re much safer during the surgery?
I don't like using minority card, but i am gay and the fact that these people compare fatphobia to racism or homophobia is just plain ignorant.
Also wouldn't these presumably american people be a part of the majority, not minority.
Well some of them shown are ppl of color so they would be part of the minority
@@jungwonscactus9425 True, but tbh i feel like a person has a lived a pretty privileged life when they can use their time to sit down and complain about not fitting into benches, nor fitting into their apartment's bathtub ooooor complaining about their doctors or decent people being concerned about their lifestyle habits that will lead them to early grave.
Heck even i love pretty comfortably despite juggling jobs and studies so i can live in my small apartment comfortably.
But long story short being called obese(medical terms) is not the same as being called f*ggot(slur) or a n*gger(slur) you get me?
If you're not a part of some oppressed minority then you can't claim victim status, so obviously slobs have to be part of some minority, right?
girl i might be watching too many cult documentaries but when you said "dietetics" i heard "dianetics" and almost dropped my lunch
Love that 😂
What's dianetics?
@@estherselvarani88 Dianetics is just Scientology nonsense.
As someone who has a personal trainer I expect them to look the part in order to believe that their practice works 😅
I heard the term thin supremacy and I just started dying laughing holy shit
That breast implants lady, is she for real? Too much to go through her rant to be told to lose weight.
Fr. Why would a plastic surgeon do a cosmetic surgery if the end result is not going to look good because of obesity? Obviously the surgeon wants good looking results.
I got blocked by one of these fat acceptance ppl for stating that it's a bold statement to say that intended weight loss is fatphobic, meaning everyone should feel like they're doing something morally wrong for losing weight.
0:15 what a waste of paper, money, time and space
for real 😂
Loooooool how blatant is that first woman, just shilling her pseudoscientific literature
Unfortunately, if you take hormones, there is always a possibility of weight gain or weight loss. I would discuss with my Primary Doctor before getting any type of body augmentation.
Hormones do not make anyone morbidly obese.
This movement is happenning only in the USA I dont see it anywhere else, is crazy.
It's so humongous the amount of food consumed and worse, wasted here in the USA.
That first girl I have a question: treatment for cancer arguably makes you sick, you get sensitive to smell and taste noise and light some people touch in so much pain everything makes you sick you loose or gain weight rapidly cause of the medications loose your hair, get damage to your teeth heart lungs reproductive tract (all these factors are dependent on the treatment you get) so does that mean that people who seek out treatment for it are bad and making themselves worse off and stupid. Also what do they think about the people with incurable cancer who try out a new drug that has a 5% success rate or is in testing
Ok, I'm trans. If you're normal sized it makes it significantly easy to perform surgry. The more weight you have on you, the harder it is for the doctor to make the surgry as perfect as possible. I used to be very fat, and I had very large breasts. Now I'm skinny my body has become more masculine and fat redistribution has made my chest appear more masculine. Now if I where to get top surgery it would align with my pecs that you can now see due to my weight loss. Having my scars align with my pecs wouldnt have been possible if I hadent have lost the weight. I've lost over 120lbs just by cutting calories, that IT. Sitting on my ass and doing nothing but respecting myself
Not only does it affect the aesthetics of the surgery like you said, it can also greatly affect the stability of the surgery. People who have great excess of body fat react differently under anesthesia and they also are at higher risk to have more overall complications due to how the fat affects the heart
sis at 6:10 really said that IF is starving yourself...... no words
Girl I- the surgeons aren't fatphobic or transphobic for wanting you to lose weight before a surgery. It's a medical risk, they don't want you to **die** on the operation table. Excess body fat makes determining the amount of anaesthesia drastically harder and locating veins is harder. You are 5 times more likely to get a heart attack post-op if you are obese.
Imagine doctors doing surgery on fat ppl and having them die mid surgery due to complications because of their size...because they don't want to be labeled as fatphobic 😭😭
I hate when they bring up blood test excuse. A fat young person might indeed have a healthy blood test, but that’s bc their body is still young. Try having this argument when you’re 50 and still fat, now it’s serious and maybe too late.
I love how that first lady purposely read that too fast for anyone to process, and didn’t go to an actual reliable external source
People like her always like to say “I wrote a whole book about it!” like a book has more legitimacy than articles, papers, etc., when in reality it just means there is no peer review process and you can say literally anything you want with no attached research
It is so scary how these people just throw science out the window and try and force their view down your throat by than cherry picking scientific principles they feel will help their argument! Like what?!
There is no such thing as thin privilege
only fat consequence lol
well there is. OF COURSE it is not equal to racism or LGBTQphobia, not even close! it is small things that when seen togheter, becomes problematic. I think that it is more similar to rich privilege.
@@Ariellymp If there is explain
@@MrProteeus sure! thin privilege is when the market (? sorry English is not my first language and I rely a lot on online dictionary) assumes that the common size for everything is for thin people and charges more if you don't fit (pun not intended). For exemple, air lines has really small space between chairs, so it needs to charge extra for obese people. Or plus size clothes are more expensive and hard to find in variety like not plus size, or when we use so commonly the word normal for thin people sizes (normal size x plus size)... It is assume that all fat people are unhealthy, BUT not assume that not all thin people are healthy... As someone that lost almost 20 pounds and is walking the path to lose another 30, I couldn't notice how Strangers are nicer to me for exemple. How it is becoming easier for me to buy clothes, foods, to travel, to just be part of society. And strangers tends to give freely their opinion to you as you get larger... If someone want to be unhealthy and die sooner it shouldn't be anybody else's concern.
@@Ariellymp okay I can understand where your coming from. But I feel as if unless you are born with health issues that cause obesity rather than eating to that point, of course prices would be more expensive for bigger clothes because that’s more fabric and more material that needs to be used. Same goes for riding in a plane or train…..if they are that big where they take up two seats or the other passengers are literally rubbing up on each other that can get very uncomfortable…the airlines are built for the average sized person…..the average human being is built to not be obese…people who publicly display their opinion about someone’s weight isn’t society…that’s just an asshole….of course a persons body weight is no concern to anyone else but it can affect other people via space in public areas and whatnot
I can’t stand when people saying intermittent fasting is starving yourself. It IS NOT starving yourself. These people don’t know a damn thing they’re spouting. They wouldn’t know what it’s like to starve if it pummeled them in the face.
I worked with a beautiful young woman who had just finished nursing school. Within 5 years she was a typical BAN- big assed nurse- that spread 4" over her chair in both directions. The least hunger pang it seemed had her yelling about being starved and she constantly had soda and hi-cal snacks at the nurses station. It was really sad and disgusting in its way. She died before she turned 60.
Whoa, Funtie, referring to something that has a small likelihood to occur as a “slim chance” is fat phobic, or thin supremacy, or whatever….
But oddly, if you say "fat chance of that" you've pretty much said the same thing, but that's definitely "fatphobic."
Will not get over a person willing to go through surgery to change their gender (which is their right) but be absolutely rabid over changing their weight. That is amazing to me.
I want it to make sense, but my brain is hurting 😂.
5:15 absolutely it does. Just like when I see nurses and doctors who smoke. I don’t feel nearly as compelled to listen to their advice as a doctor who advises against smoking and doesn’t smoke. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oof. I'm a trans woman myself. And it makes me mad that this woman talking about the breast augmentation pulls fatphobia into the conversation about how hard trans healthcare is to get. There's so much other stuff that has way more legitimacy, that is actually hard to get. Hormones here have so much gatekeeping to them, sex reassignment surgery takes infinite hurdles to get to, etc. etc. Focusing the conversation on... fat acceptance of all things sort of delegitimatizes the whole clusterfuck of things that trans people have to go through to get help, if they even are able to. It also comes off as very priviliged to complain about some requirements to a surgery that most people would not be able to afford or have access to...
hi funtie !! i love how you use ur own voice to state your opinion !! love u ❤️
I'm a thin supremacist and I am proud.
I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay.
I had an abdominoplasty (tummy tuck) last year. I’m 5’3 and weighed 160 pounds at the time of my consultation, which put me just in the “overweight” category. My surgeon asked me to lose at least 10 pounds before he would do the surgery. I guess I should have called him a fatphobic bigot and stormed out, huh?
The BMI scale isn’t perfect but it’s a good baseline for medical professionals. There are disreputable plastic surgeons who will do surgery on women with high BMIs and I consider that so irresponsible.
Surgery recovery is hard enough without excess weight potentially causing life-threatening complications.
I believed the stigma and became inflamed, but my doctor said it was a pollen allergy.
With the first lady, she’s not entirely wrong but I only have those issues due to having C-PTSD and a dissociative disorder from past experiences. I’m not sure how bad it can get if they’re only triggered by prolonged stress.
In my experience, I can’t play horror games after I’ve eaten due to my amygdala being too sensitive which causes my fight or flight to be activated over small things. I can’t properly digest food like that and I get sick. However, I don’t think me suffering with that is the reason for why I’m overweight. I’m overweight because I’ve always had a bad relationship with food. The symptoms can be different for everyone but I can’t speak on the weight-gain aspect of traumatic pro-longed stress.
I get you man, Trauma does weird things with your body and food. I personally have a hard time loosing and maintaining a healthy weight because of this. Still pushing through though and have lost a stubborn 30lbs. (:
@@lishang2653 I relate a lot. I struggle to lose weight but that’s mostly in relation to my PCOS unfortunately
Highly appreciate you reading all the text on those tiktoks. I usually just listen to these videos while drawing, so the less I need to look at the screen, the better!
I found it very funny that first lady in this video who wrote the book is preaching obesity meanwhile being skinny 🤔😅
I've been doing intermittent fasting for 2 years and I can eat a lot, especially with 16/8, there's even people who gain muscle on IF. So there's definitely no starving.
9:27
I'm narcoleptic, when I needed to have my wisdom teeth removed I wanted it to be done under full anesthesia, I wanted - no - NEEDED them to knock me out cold because of a crippling fear of anyone touching my mouth in a medical setting, which is a trauma response from something that happened in my childhood.
Because of my narcolepsy we had to make sure I get a very specific anesthetic and I had to check in with two different doctors to make sure I don't have complications during the procedure and that I am aware of the risks. I was told multiple times how risky it is to do this under full anesthesia and asked if I was really sure I didn't want it to he done locally instead. This wasn't the doctors being ableist or bigoted. Quite the opposite, the fact that doctors don't want to risk a patients health just so they can sugar coat something to make the patient feel better about themselves is exactly what they need to and should do. I don't understand why fat people need to get special treatment when they actually have a way of taking out their risk factor-
I hate the second girl solely because she was so obnoxiously condescending, for no reason that even made sense.
Being fat is a surgical risk!! Why would any surgeon risk their career? You can also use portion control and gasp EXERCISE!!
I wanted to drop by to say that visceral fat is, inasof itself, a factor in surgical recovery. Normally, skin is pretty flexible. If you stretch the sides of a wound together, there is enough stretch to suture. If the skin is pulled taught around fat deposits, sutures are weaker and tear easily because they’re fighting the skin harder. If you lose weight, your skin relaxes and there is more give for sutures, so they are more likely to remain stable.
Thus, most fat people are asked to lose some weight before undergoing surgery, especially if the surgery is cosmetic and scar reduction is a factor, such as in a gender confirming cosmetic procedure.
These people really want the future to be like wall-e
I really dispise the blatantly manipulative use of the words "body checking" and "triggering others" get used on tiktok.
God forbid somebody be appreciating their body, or celebrating weight loss/progress in their weight loss journey, or celebrating their recovery in an ed, or wearing an outfit that exposes skin, or just existing with their body present in the video.
Cause that's body checking apparently, and you existing and being happy is at the expense of some totally real person with an Ed and TOTALLY not the person suspiciously going off on you for being happy about yourself. It just gets me angry to see this new version of body shaming, and seeing how often people support it
Edit: imagine going into the doctors office, seeing you're doctor who is over weight and them telling you (especially if you're "midsized" or "skinny" in the broad sense) that you need to lose weight to be healthy...you'd be pissed
They don’t do certain surgeries for overweight people, because the morbidity for surgery is higher. To even get a gastric bypass, you have to be under a certain weight. Also, welcome to being a woman! You gain weight more easily without higher testosterone 🤓
Essentially, she’s mad the surgeon doesn’t want her to die in surgery.
It's not fatphobia or transphobic if a doctor askes you to lose weight before doing a non-essential surgery! They will also tell you you need to stop smoking before surgery is that smokerphobic 🤦♀️. they will not do non-essential surgeries on someone that is high-risk eg someone that is 60 lb overweight or a smoker it's not worth risking the anaesthetic I don't understand what's so hard to to get about that.
I thought you made a good point on the one with the trans woman talking about surgery. There are biological rules for our meat suits, you can't just choose to opt out of them lol.
Also off topic, but didn't you mention training for a marathon in a previous video? Hope that's going well! :) (if im not too late and/or wrong about you saying that lol)
I'm waiting for someone to talk about how the body positive movement uses Black woman and racism to legitimize their argument. Like calling the BMI racist and "BodyPos was started by fat Black women!" Okay, why didn't you leave it there??" It feels like they know the movement is laughable, so they include buzzwords like racism because if people laugh at that there are actual negative social consequences.
That First Lady learned the best way to monetize the fat acceptance bullshit 😂😂😂😂 gotta respect the hustle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine going to a dentist with broken and black teeth
Imagine going to the dealership with a knife in your tire and being angry they started to change the tire without first checking the air pressure.
i’ve lost about 17lbs in the past few months and i only have 9lbs to get to my goal of 110lbs! i’m so excited i’ve always wanted to lose weight just never put in the effort but it was surprisingly easy for me for me i guess it’s because i found good information from trustworthy places and learned that you don’t have to go on some crazy fad diet you just need to count calories and get exercise in! i’m also down to a small in clothing! i was so excited when i found that out :D
110 is underweight and annoriex don’t lose weight you need to gain weight
@@MelB868 ?? 110 lbs at my hight and age is a healthy bmi
The author said that the more a person believes the stigma the more likely they are to be inflamed which would lead to weight I.e. fat retention. If it were as simple as that then what she is essentially saying is that people who find themselves in insular communities and echochambers covering the topic of fat prejudice are going to be feeding into their confirmation bias and the best way to lose weight is to not listen to those communities because it is intentionally keeping people fat just through reinforcing beliefs. If all it takes is thought to change a person's ability to lose or gain weight then why isn't she advocationg for people to step away from fat activism?
I realized that you always like the peoples videos even if you don’t agree with them. It’s a little thing but since you do use their videos on your platform it’s kind of nice to see that you still like the video. (even though I also don’t agree with most of their opinions)
that last video surprised me when I saw Marissa with... a friend? I was impressed, I didn't think she had any friends. But I realized the girl had imposed herself over Marissa's video and Marissa is still lonely and broken.
thanks for clarifying what body checking is. When I hear body checking I think of a good hit in hockey. I had no idea what she was talking about.
Imagine how pathetically easy life is when all you do to become supreme is to stop eating excessive energy.
As s post op transwoman, I had no BMI issues.
Perfect video to listen to while doing cardio after back day💪
It's insane how some people are so traumatized by their own self-image and dillusions that they all just go like "I don't need no advice or negative comments, or criticism or whatever. Only positive comments plz". As if that isn't a sign of a person so deep in their own insecurities they cannot even think about the idea someone might critisize them.
Love the channel, love what you do. Watch to learn what new arguments my clients might come to me with without having to sift through all the HAES fiction myself. As a trans-male trainer whose been on hormones for a little over a year now I can kind of understand the argument at 7:03 , but she's using it in bad faith. Yes, hormones will change your body composition in terms of fat distribution and storage. And yes, trans-fems will see more fat appear over time to give them rounder curves. But, the BMI doesn't just magically stop applying because your genes say one thing and your hormones say another. I'm not medically licensed so always go to a physician if you can access one, but my advice for a trans individual whose wondering if their HRT might be the reason they are obese would be to calculate their BMI in each gender category , add the two results together, and divide by two. If the result you got is overweight for your preferred gender, it's not your HRT.
I hate the complaining and defeatist mindsets these over weight people have. If you can’t do something like lose a couple lbs of fat because it’s hard work, how will you be able to do anything hard in your life? 🤷🏾♀️ This is coming from someone who finally worked hard enough to lose the weight so I could stop feeling sorry for myself and move on to achieving my other harder goals 💪🏾
imagine thinking going a few extra hours without food is starving yourself lmao
I understand what the woman talking about implants was trying to say, but also some of her points were just wildly inaccurate. I think she meant her BMI shouldn’t be calculated by the standards of a cis woman because it wouldn’t be the same. That I get. But saying that being asked to lose weight to prevent cosmetic surgery complications is not fatphobic.
It’s true. The BMI would be different because she will still have a higher percentage of muscle even after hormone blockers. But, that will also make it easier for her to lose weight. She’s just not used to not being able to eat like a man with a high metabolism. You have to start eating like a woman (lower metabolism). Welcome to the club 🤓
BMI isn't gendered though, it's the same weight to height range regardless of gender 🤷🏻♀️
8:26 putting people under anaesthesia is always dangerous but that danger increases exponentially the bigger you are. The surgeon doesn't want his patients dying for a lot of reasons
From a biological point of view, fit ( not thin ... although there's a correlation ) supremacy is the ideal.
One thing I was told by someone recovering with an ED is that if it's posted publicly, it's usually not bodychecking. Maybe it is, but usually it's not. They described photos/videos of bodychecking as very repetitive and boring and also sorta crazy looking (like, who takes that many pictures of how the back of their shoulder looks?). It's usually the sort of documentation that people hide, rather than openly share with strangers. That obsessive behavior is directed toward checking themselves, not showing themselves to you. Half the time, they're convinced the part they're checking is bad or ugly, no matter what you think of it, so it's not the first part they usually want to flash to everyone.
Im a skinny guy. I have a terrible time finding pants that fit my waist to the point i will have to order the pants rather than just but it on the spot at the store. On road trips i get crammed in the backseat with others. My clothes have less fabric but i pay the same price as someone buying a xxl. I eat half the food these fat acceptancers will at a buffet but i pay the same price. Ive had amusement park buckles sit loosely on me. Oh woe is me. We need to stand up for the thin acceptance movement!
The only thing I would add it that I agree to a certain extent about the personal trainer who can't run comment however as a person pursuing a PhD in clinical exercise physiology I cannot run a mile at the moment due to inflammatory arthritis, but and here's the point I think many miss these days as there is this black and white view of the world is that I am active and actively working towards better health because I know the importance of being active no matter what and I think I can still speak to a person about the importance of exercise even on the days when I cannot do it myself.
Also, I'm scared for the future if this mindset displayed by these individuals continues and is accepted in the way it is
If they spent half the time exercising and eating better than they put in making tiktokd they wouldn't have to make tiktoks