Fat acceptance TikTok cringe compilation | "Fatphobia is sexist!" - Virgie Tovar
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If Marissa Matthews is wearing an oatmeal face mask, does that make her acne-phobic? Should people with acne feel oppressed and marginalised by her? This seems to be her logic every time I see her in these compilations..
Exactly! Acne is healthy! There's nothing wrong with having pus-oozing bumps on your face! And trying to heal your skin is sooooo acnephobic, you just give millions of dollars to the cosmetic industry!
she also changes her hair color every few minutes. She adheres to every one of those awful awful Beauty Standards except weight.
I have acne and I’m very triggered by her face mask. She should check her good skin privilege. 🤣
Oh, that's what that is? I was guessing cake but I kinda figured that probably wasn't right.
It’s funny how she says buying healthy food to lose weight is too expensive but she’s wasting food to use on her face,, the hypocrisy is deafening
Isn't Virgie Tovar the girl who said that a woman asking for a smaller slice of cake was fatphobic and also due to patriarchy 💀 ?
She wrote a whole book on that concept.
I'm doomed. I usually skip the cake because I find it to be overly sweet and it makes me nauseated.
Bruh... What now?
She just wants more cake and she wrote a book to eat other people’s cake without feeling guilty 🤣
Virgie disgusts me and, for lack of better word, genuinely triggers me. When I struggled with my BED, my "body posi" "friends" and mutuals sent me her work. She rly feeded into my addiction, even though I was to blame as well for being so impressionable. She also charges insane amount of money for some like camp or whatever where you can eat donuts and juggle ur gut... Idk about other obese people but I am capable of eating unhealthy food and shaking my ass even without having to give her like 800 dollars for it.
The first girl is the “catch a bubble” I can’t believe I’m hearing her real voice. 😂
She’s insufferable!!!
She's like "as long as you agree with me you're a wonderful person"
Somehow, that voice sounds exactly the way you'd think it does--annoying, entitled, and almost smothered by the fat around the larynx.
Her voice drives me mad
She makes me viscerally react when I hear her...because I'm just waiting for the condescension lol
As a feminist, we don't claim Vergie so we would like to pass her on to ANYONE else.
She can live with the skeksis ( it’s creatures from the dark Crystal )
@@goodbye7236 even they won't take her
This woman is so irritating.
As a Latina, we from the Hispanic side don’t claim her. Abuela would beat the sh*t outta her if Vergie dared to take food from her precious grandchildren and promoted unhealthy habits that would kill younger generations before herself. (That’s just my Grandma, she’s a real G).
haha she's the cake lady, right?
Marissa, if you have time for six relationships, you have time to meal prep
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As well as lookin up articles with false information, to use it as arguments towards strangers on the internet.
Damn where's the lie
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The first lady lacking the self awareness to know she is definitely the bully is pretty on brand for the "catch a bubble" lady.
When she does it it's goofy and spicy though
yes but when she does it it's Different Because ReasonsTM and you just need to Lighten UpTM.
@@johnjamele a crybully in its purest roundest form
She’s so mean
Fat women are the biggest bullies ever it’s only a way for them to cope with the bullying they have gone through in life
Marissa is ridiculous. The best workouts I do are from free CZcams channels, not the gym. If you have 15 mins to scroll TikTok you have 15 mins to do a full body workout video in your room. Stop it, Marissa
Just dance is also on youtube
Exactly
Chloe Ting does workout programs that you can find on her website without the need to sign up for them for free.
And what about during the COVID lockdown? Where I lived, every gym and other public leisure facility was closed, so no-one, not even the allegedly 'rich' people could go to them, but we were still allowed to go out walking/jogging once a day. So instead of hitting my local pool I walked for an hour along the river near where I lived; it's a large, open space so social distancing was no problem, and it cost me absolutely zero pence. And I also had a Pilates DVD workout that I did at home (I think I bought that one about ten years ago, in a bargain bin for about a fiver.) Lack of money can certainly put up many barriers in life, but preventing people from taking exercise is *definitely* not one of them!
I live in a back yard shed and I still do 40 minutes to an hour of cardio 5 times a week Emi Wong is amazing for anyone who needs suggestions ☺
The 'my bloodwork is great!' argument is so insidious because it's not about being sick RIGHT NOW, it's about putting yourself at higher risk for developing things LATER. These "my bloodwork is great" people are always invariably in their twenties or early thirties. Like yeah, fam, your bloodwork may be great NOW, but stay at this size and it WON'T be in 10-20 years, is what we're saying. It's about mitigating risk factors. My bloodwork is fine too, but I'm working to lose the weight because I understand that I'm at greater RISK at my current size. Like...just because someone who smokes doesn't have lung cancer yet doesn't mean smoking is safe, get me??
And the fact that health is considered mentally and mobility wise. Being 300+ lbs you cannot have the best mobility (plus having 600+ lbs on your joints as joints experience your weight as times two.) And since obesity is linked to unhealthy processed foods avoided of healthy nutrients it commonly makes people more likely to be depressed. So being 300+ lbs can mean you cannot be healthy as your joints are experiencing faster ware and tear while your mentality is going down. Other points too but ya know.
@Chocolate Bunny Best Luck to You :) 🤗
Also your blood work doesn't show your joints being crushed
@@tovareardon4541 BINGO!!!!! lol
Kinda like with the planet and climate change and the "The ice caps still exist, so we're fine" argument.
The first girl wants to not be shamed or harassed but she can harass and shame some random person because they don’t like their stomach hanging out. 😂
Maybe someone else talking about themselves makes them feel awful about herself it does me
@@MelB868 then she needs to get off the internet and get therapy. There’s no reason to bully someone just because of insecurities
Wonders why they got their video taken down, did not censor the user's name. Delusional.
Here is the thing, as a medical person who is also obese, obesity is not healthy! Your doctor need to tell you that weather you want to hear it or not. It’s not fun but it’s a reality check and I welcome it because it always motives me to keep trying to loose the weight. I don’t want doctors to lie to me or try to make me feel good about being fat, soo yeah
Not to mention, there IS evidence that food-as-medicine can actually help people with mental issues! I've started trying to eat less processed food in the last year and in addition to my weight loss as a result (82lbs so far!) I've found that my depression and anxiety are also WAY more manageable! Your brain is really sensitive to the quality of the foods you eat, so someone coming in for medicine for a mental issue like ADHD (which I also have) for medication being told about possible dietary solutions is not "out of the blue medical fatphobia," it's a doctor doing his job. Ugh.
@@AuralayKristine 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 so true. Keep going dear, we can do it !
Losing weight takes a lot of effort and these people in particular don't have the work ethic to loose the weight (wether working on mental health misinformation on food and so on) they feel bad about it and want to blame everyone else but themselves. They know they are unhealthy they just don't want to change.
I think some ppl have a fundamental disconnect where they don't understand that Drs don't owe them emotional labour over the efficient performance of their duties.
They don't even owe bedside manner, if they're not, you know, literally at their bedside (that 1 is a _really_ frequent source of confusion).
It can be tactically useful to help keep the patient listening, & thus improve the chances of a positive outcome, but it's not a core duty. Their core duty is the truth, & the truth is that being in a permanent inflammatory state effects the body on a holistic level, which _is_ a physician's concern to discuss - no matter what the patient went in for. Drs are more than vending machines where a patient selects whatever they want to hear & it gets dispensed.
The fact that some Drs really _are_ shit at listening to fat ppl's genuine symptoms + pain (especially if it's a woman) just is so frustrating, because it muddies the water.
Keep going, honey. You're doing so well. ❤
@@mysterylovescompany2657 exactly. the medical doctors are not here to hurt nor help your feelings, they are simply doing their job by tending to you medically. therapists are the people to go to for your emotions, and even then, therapists are not here to make your feel better about yourself in the denial youre in. they are going to break down your emotions and get to the root of your issues so you can then work TOGETHER to overcome present and future issues. the main thing that they are totally unwilling to do is be honest and cooperate with their doctor. you may not like what they have to say but what good is going to the doctor if youre not willing to listen to them anymore the moment they speak about weight. dont discredit a doctor because youre unwilling to change your habits. im pretty sure if you asked them not to speak abt your weight and to make a note of it they would respect your wishes. (fyi when i say "you" all throughout, im not meaning you specifically. just my general way of speaking)
I’m a doctor and it’s so so hard watching these videos where people with no credentials argue that being obese or morbidly obese isn’t unhealthy. I don’t believe BMI is the best measure of health and I don’t believe that people should be treated as lesser just because they’re fat but they’re putting their health and lives at risk and, worse, encouraging others to not take care of themselves. Most people in the fat activist/fat acceptance movement appear to be quite young at the minute, of course their bloods are fine now but they’re putting themselves at risk of heart attacks and diabetes and physical joint problems.
Also as a personal anecdote, when I have spoken to patients in their 40s, 50s and 60s etc they accept their weight is mostly down to the choices they have made (“oh I had a lot of takeaways due to x, y or z” “I let myself go and stopped taking care of myself when I had kids”) without me even bringing it up but I feel like the fat acceptance movement would just blame the doctors and medical fatphobia for not being able to help them?
So when you argue BMI isn't a good measure of health, I want to know more about this. BMI isn't a good measure of BODY FAT, I'll give you that. Because an athlete or body builder may have a higher BMI than their measurements or appearance suggests (Triathlete here).
But I always wanted to know. Does BMI help uncover health issues that are unrelated to musculature or obesity? What if a very skinny patient has a BMI of, say, 29. Could that possibly help uncover the presence of a mass that may have gone undetected otherwise? Is this negligible? I'm so curious about the edge cases.
This is why I think BMI is important. Because if your body composition and size is incongruent with your BMI, this could be a sign of a potential health condition? I've always wondered this.
@@BeckBeckGo it’s been shown that bmi is less effective for minorities.for example if a white person has a bmi of 29 , and an Asian person has a bmi of 29, the Asian person is gonna experience worse health effects sooner than the white person. That’s just one example. However there have been multiple bmi charts made for different sexes, ages, and ethnicities so while still not a perfect system it’s still a good rule of thumb
Some of these people on tik tok, especially the woman in the first one, are so insufferable. She admitted to going after the commentor and insulting her and then gets huffy and upset when tik tok takes down her video. Literally "you're not the boss of me" ?? What a child.
watch her "catch a bubble in your mouth" videos. "Child" is exactly the right descriptor. And she uses that persona to BULLY OTHERS. She's just an incredible hypocrite.
@@johnjamele yeah shes a condescending aggressive narcissist on top of her attitude, she needs some bullying to come back to earth lol
Late but that comment was quite literally a compliment, I wish my life was easy enough for THAT to ruin my day.
it's literally a doctor's job to be concerned with your weight 😭 I once lost maybe 10 or less lbs between regular checkups and even that fluctuation was enough for them to ask about it and do a blood workup. If your doctor notices something potentially unhealthy with you, it's their responsibility as a medical professional to address it 🥴
It's pretty sad when people go to the doctor but don't want to hear what the problem or the solution to their issues is and instead treat the doctor like an adversary.
Yeah, just because a young person's "bloodwork looks great" NOW doesn't mean being obese will not cause health problems down the road. Many people in my family are obese, and it didn't seem to catch up to them until middle age. They were all pretty active and normal in their 20's and 30's, and then it was a horrifying spiral of mobility problems, injuries that wouldn't heal, and chronic health conditions that needed constant medication. It's just not a fun existence, your doctor isn't being mean by trying to help you avoid a future full of pain and disability. If my relatives lost weight now it would help them, but not reverse all of their problems, it's kind of too late.
Especially when they complain about doctors recommending exercise and diet whenever they walk in and retort with ‘but I’m perfectly healthy!!!’
Ok fine you’re ‘healthy’ NOW but what about in 5 years? 5 months? 5 weeks?
My family used to be like this when I was young and now they’re suffer the repercussions with meds, extra checkups, etc
i went to my psychologist and the person doing my vitals noticed i was a few pounds lighter in a month and she still said something. doctors have the right to be concerned both ways.
yup. when i was heavily underweight (38kg/165cm) due anorexia and bulimia, whenever i saw ANY doctor they told me it would seriously affect my health and i needed to gain weight asap.
i didn't had my period for 3 years and there was chance i would never have again in my life. i was always dizzy, once i fainted due starvation. i had acid reflux, my stomach was killing me and i was constipated.
and guess what? when i finally started gaining weight and eating regularly my physical health was improving.
doctors are obligated to tell you if they see if your weight may cause health problems. it's literally their job jesus christ.
Vergie Tovar, I remember that special character who complained a lot about people not wanting to date fat people and calling them fatfobic, WHILE dating a fit guy. Lmao.
She threw a fit over going on a date with man who didn't eat junk food and she was ultra triggered by it. She also often calls out racism to the point of "white ppl always bad" to date a white fit man. I also remember her meltdown about how "skinny women feed into patriarchy by being sexually attractive towards cishet men" (as if there arent bisexual, and gay women and trans ppl who r fit) but then bragged about how sexy she is in the eyes of men. Shes a whole mess
And let's not forget her attempt to make CRFI (cake related fuckery or something)
@@olympic-gradelurker
You know you go to too many day parties when you start developing sociological concepts based on how somebody cuts a cake.
@@gorluralah3734 that mental gymnastics is hurting me bad. Lol
There is one thing that a lot of people struggle to admit nowadays, it's that beauty isn't totally subjective. There are common physical traits that are considered attractive since the dawn of times. And a slim, healthy body is one of them. Or a curvy body, voluptuous but NOT obese. A bright/smooth skin, luminous eyes, ivory teeth, thick or silky hair, those features can be found in all skin tones, eyes and hair colors. It's just a common thing, what we find attractive is often a healthy body. Being morbidly obese is not attractive for most people, because it literally screams "bad health". We kinda unconsciously learned to not find rolls of fat, rotten teeth or yellow eyes attractive. It doesn't mean that a person with such features deserves to be bullied, not at all. But it's just a basic human tendency to recognize health as a positive trait, and to link health and beauty 🤷
and when you are healthy & taking care of yourself both mentally and physically, the beautiful qualities you possess will flourish.
Beauty is definitely subjective, the way I see it. Rather that there is social beauty standards (things agreed upon by a number big enough to impact society) and personal beauty standards (your own preferences and stuff), and even then both are subjective from society to society, society to person and from person to person. Being fat for example is not the most common thing, but I remember in my early 10's (I'm 20 now) finding out about areas in a neighbour country that had "fat farms" where they would take girls and women to get fattened up cause that was what was considered attractive, I'm talking 300-500 pounds heavy, it's been 10 years now so maybe the standard changed there, I don't know. And even in my country for a brief epoch, in my grandparents time. Obese women were desired mostly for the association with the privilege of having so much food at their disposal that they could engorge their bodies, but of course women needed to still be mobile and able.
In both countries obese women were never and still are not the majority of the population, though.
And I recall somewhat rotten teeth has also been a beauty standard in some parts of the east, don't know about the western societies. But there's not a universal normalization of beauty standards.
Edit: but I agree that one objective trait in a person that will impact their desirability will always be health. 👍
I agree with this, however, we still glorify extremely thin female bodies (we don't even see it as extreme anymore because we're so used to it) and that is not healthy.
@@MelC-td9bg I feel otherwise. During the last years, skeletal models have been frowned upon. And the general population prefers a healthy curvy woman over a size 0.
@@amaramoramei9959 I absolutely agree with you that some cultures praised very fat women as a desirable trait, and yes there are features that can be found attractive in some places and eras, that aren't nowadays. About rotten teeth: it's not that rotten teeth were seen as attractive, it's that in Eastern countries they loved blackened or tinted teeth (they chewed betel nuts for example, and it gave a yellowish/orangey tone to the teeth. Or in Japan, they blackened their teeth.) But it was the teeth color, not the general shape/health of the mouth. A truly rotten row of teeth have never been an attractive trait if I recall correctly. So yes, beauty can be subjective, but I stand by my point: it's often a matter of aesthetic, but when it comes to obvious health issues translated in physical features, it's not seen as attractive, minus some exceptions of course. Paleolithic folks goddesses statues were morbidly obese for the record. But I think that it was more of a symbolic thing and I really doubt that our Cro Magnon female ancestors were morbidly obese, because they lived a forceful healthy life in a sense (lots of walking, healthy organic/raw food, no sugar, etc etc)
Virgie sounds like the kid in class that has to give a presentation in front of everyone and hasn't read the book.
"Gyms cost money, and it takes time to exercise" says the person who spends hours every day creating content for Tiktok on her iPhone.
I've had a nurse friend explain to me how they treat obese patients who don't want their weight addressed as the same as a person with cancer who does doesn't want treatment. They respect the person's wishes and will only offer options when asked. Unfortunately, since they are forbidden to address the root cause, they can only manage symptoms as best they can.
Food IS medicine! Working out and eating right is the best preventive care for yourself.
UUuuuh medical fatphobia is not a thing. My health got better when I lost weight. And you can just walk more or take the bike to work.
If they have time to make TikTok videos, then they have time to excerise.
“Lectureing” her about her weight because your girly isn’t going to be able to maintain that heart health. She WILL have to give up that Adderall, ALL stimulant medications actually. Her blood work is perfect, NOW. Her blood work can be pristine and she may still be having issues. Also, Adderall is an appetite suppressant. People who eat vast amounts of food, enough to maintain THAT size, isn’t eating out of hunger, rather they’re eating to cope. Aka, she has an eating disorder. The guy cares. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have said a single thing. His job IS mental health issues. That’s why he’s bringing it up. Don’t act like you can’t have eating disorders along with that adhd.
something tells me that person is not going to get a medical degree
Couldn't have said it better!! You are absolutely, 100% right.
@Amanda I start my day with a kale/turmeric/cherry powder/beet powder/strawberry-blueberry smoothie to help with early morning arthritis pain and inflammation. I don't eat processed sugar because that causes pain flares. Food IS medicine. That guy is just an idiot.
Yeah I have ADHD too and I lost 20lbs and at least 5 of those were just from the meds making food taste gross
Yeah, I have ADHD too and your size always effects what dosage of meds you can take 💀
*Gets offended by someone not agreeing with her on a tiny little thing*
*Harasses a woman online*
*sees consequences for her actions*
*surprised Pikachu face*
Seriously, these people are UNREAL
Marissa is full of excuses. My mom lost all her postpartum weight by just walking every day. She limited her food intake and walked a lot. Had nothing to do with money.
I take a medication that requires a urine sample as well, and each and every time I go in for a script they do a general health check - weight, how the month has gone, changes in medical history. It is their job. It would be malpractice to just give out scripts without looking at the patient in front of them.
Adderall also gives an increased risk of high blood pressure and heart stuff.
The dose of adderall/stimulant can also change depending on a person's weight (this applies to both sides of the spectrum for whether you are under or over weight)
@@MissCaraMint also it is impacted by weight and can make you need a higher dose than someone in the normal weight category. Same goes for plan b and a million other medications.
@@SuperJust4girls this is not true. Stimulant medication dosage is not related to height or weight at all.
As someone who's watched fat acceptance cringe compilations for a few years I almost thought Virgie Tovar dropped off the face of the earth lol
Where did she go 😂
Adderall is a stimulant. That means that it could have sideffects that include heightening blood pressure and heart arrhythmia. Weight does bring with it it’s own blood pressure and heart disease risks so this was actually right on topic for an adderall perscription renewal to include. Like I am a very healthy, active, and young woman and I still had to get an ECG and have to regularly measure my blood pressure just to be on the safe side. Of course a doctor needs to bring up risk factors with the medication you are taking and steps you can take to minimize those risks.
I wonder if he's gonna dump her and call her fatphobic when the weight loss aspect of Adderall kicks in
Amphetamine has also been severely regulated since its discovery due to abuse potential and side effects. Where I'm from there's no way to get it legally prescribed. It's beyond entitlement when just talking to a medical specialist feels like oppression.
I also had to get an ECG to be sure it was safe for me to use Ritalin and I'm not even 10 pounds overweight (I'm working on it though!) edit: and I don't have any health issues - my doctor just wanted to be safe.
Exactly, I’ve always been within the normal weight range for my height and am always asked about weight and have my blood pressure checked because adderall is a stimulant and an appetite suppressant. Doctors are concerned about dosing correctly so checking body weight to see if a) your dose is high enough or if it b) is too high. One of the things they keep an eye on especially if you are on the lower end of average is if you’re losing too much weight or losing weight too fast as a result of the adderall. Both can be indicators of too high a dose or potentially abusing the drug or even trying to use it for weight loss.
@@thirdculturetheory395 Right. My doctor has just had a talk with me about checking mu weight regularly to make sure I don’t suddenly lose a lot of weight.
"IT COSTS MONEY TO LOSE WEIGHT!" Closing your mouth and not putting food into it actually saves money. Walk to the library and take out a book (free) and read that instead. First and foremost, your weight is driven by your diet. Stop eating out (saving you money). Even if you buy pre-made meals at the store, you save money, and you can choose healthier meals. In the time you spent whining about all this crap, you could have walked around your apartment twice, burning 10 whole calories.
If your posting online you have money to change your diet
someone tell Marissa heart disease also costs money
Exactly
if she. has money to buy lots of unhealthy. food to get to that size she has time eat meal prep and eat healthy meal prepping literally saves time all you have to do is warm it up. running outside and cardio from youtube doesnt cost money. at all
Tap water is virtually free and you can get a water filter fairly cheap now. That saves money and when people drink water as opposed to sugary drinks, that alone will help shed pounds. Doesn’t cost money to go for walks and the more you do it the more weight you loose and the better one will feel. You can even go for a little walk on your lunch break for fresh air, to clear the mind and it helps to loose weight. So tired of people making excuses.
Lol,the guy talking about medical fatphobia but is short-breathed just speaking
😂😂😂
I love your videos please keep doing them. As a fat person trying to lose weight I use this for motivation to never be this delusional about obesity and my health. You are doing the lord’s work. ❤️
PS: Their weight is the least of their problems socially and romantically. These people are insufferable and have horrible personalities. 😭
Hey, fellow fat person working on weight loss here! We got this!!! (Also come here for inspiration lol)
@@AuralayKristine as an ex-fat who was stuck in the body positivity movement until I woke up one day (220lbs down to 125lbs), life is so much better on this side! From a vast improvement in mental health to actually loving my body & myself, I never want to go back. You guys got this!! 💛
@@levy1773 I can't wait to see how much more life holds for me!!! I've already lost a lot but I have over 100lbs to go, but the difference between where I am now and where I started is incredible. I'm so excited and I have a LIST of things I can't wait to do again (ride roller coasters, go horseback riding, hike long distances--though I'm up to 4-5 miles I can go now and no cane anymore!!). Thank you for this comment, it really helps me stay motivated to see others' success stories! And I'm like you, I was sucked into the body positivity movement for a LONG time before I finally was like "oh shit this is killing me isn't it?" Glad you found your way out and CONGRATS on that loss, that's incredible!!!
@@AuralayKristine thank you so much!! Congrats on your weight loss and determination to continue!! Let me tell you the excitement I felt when I could ride go karts with my nephews, that seat belt clicking without a struggle was amazing. You got this, keeping going no matter how bad some days seem we definitely all have those. Sending positive thoughts your way! :) 💛
@@levy1773 That honestly made me tear up a little (the seat belt in the go kart) because I get that so much!!! I realized the other day I can stand up on my own from sitting on the floor (for awhile I would never sit on the floor because I couldn't get back up without help). It's amazing to get all those little gifts back isn't it??? Thank you again, you're an awesome inspiration!
I actually think Virgie is a lot less popular these days, judging by her nonexistent TikTok views lol
Yay! Hope! Lol
So will Tess Holliday and the other people will become even less popular.
virgie was never really popular, more infamous i think. from what i can tell the reason she bkew up so much was because the anti fa crowd kept reacting ant responding to her, because she is one of the most extra fa.
She makes no sense. It sounds like a bot ate up 500 second and third- rate articles on the topic of intersectional feminism, got programmed to center all topics on food and then just started spewing out sentences.
@@sauleiwanderapfelstrudel I thought u said antifa until I remembered what fa stood for
I see where she’s coming from with the man boobs parts but genuinely I don’t think ppl associate fat men with being “womanly” to that extent. Honestly I think that skinny guys are viewed more femininely by other men. Just from what I’ve seen. Either way, putting guys down by comparing them to women is sexist but I feel like virgie is reaching a bit.
Yeah like there’s a good point in there somewhere about toxic masculinity and body-image but she’s completely missing it and just slapping on as many buzzwords (like sexism and ‘fatphobia’) as she can.
@@zephrii9528 I think that’s the case with a lot of her stuff. She gets so close to making a good point but ruins it with the misuse/overuse of buzzwords.
Just my experience but in the gay community big guys often get labeled as “bears” and are seen as very masculine while smaller, skinny guys get labeled as “twinks” and are seen as very feminine.
She’s definitely reaching
I think the two examples she lists are more about how the person's weight is so DISTORTING of their body. Not being able to see their downstairs bits due to their weight is mocked/scary because it's disabling, not "feminizing" or whatever she said.
@@novemberblake9505 Yeah but these big guys are husky; they still have noticeable muscle so they're not completely soft.
2:07 "We are afraid of food..."
*the rest of that sentence should be "but I still eat more in a day than an Ethiopean family of four eats in a week because I'm so oppressed"*
The whole thing about the guy saying that medical fatphobia and his girlfriend going to refill her prescription for Adderall and the doctor bringing up her weight is because people who are bigger need higher dosages than smaller people. It's just a fact.
everything he says is absolute rubbish and so uneducated it’s scary
@@aggressivestable8461 yo deadass. Like idk how people are so confident to talk about things they clearly have no certification or background in 😬 it makes me feel itchy when people do that from the second hand embarrassment
It’s the same with children before, during and after puberty. A kid with ADHD at 8 will require a different dose than the same kid at 12 or 16.
guy? it's a woman
@@fg4hg594 Considering he has facial hair, I don't think so.
I'm obsessed with these they're great motivators for me lmao
Same man
Same..I usually watch these while I go on my walks lol
Same
Same here I litterally went to the gym and staff and I'm started my diet .
Sorry for my english
they always use that "but weight loss is for rich people!" excuse as if getting yourself to that big of a size isn't as expensive
My friend of 10 yrs and I are both 70. I eat healthy, walk and work out, deal with my trauma issues ...and have not needed a doctor in 50 yr. My friend has diabetes because most of her food is sweets and several sodas a day. She does not get out of her chair unless she has to.
She's blind now and could possibly loose a foot, She was in the hospital a handful of times last month and a couple of surgeries.
So, it's NOT about being fat positive. It's about what kind of life you want down the road.
I was 450 lbs before the fat acceptance movement gained traction. Yes, I felt discriminated against by EVERYONE. Drs, teachers, my family, people in the grocery store, neighbors, landlord, coworkers. But I grew up in the 80s & 90s. There were no excuses to being fat back then, so my mind doesn't play the victim part very well. JS. Yet I would still have outbursts like Virgie in an internal dialogue.
Then, I made up my mind I needed to change for myself. I didn't want to be a 60 yr old woman in low income housing on oxygen and insulin. I wanted to have a career, husband, homeowner etc.
I'm almost a size 10 now. I don't worry about the scale. I go by pant size. I went from being almost too big to shop at Torrid, to being too small to shop there. No surgery. No fad diets. Just lots of willpower. I was almost a full blown diabetic on lots of medication. Now, normal blood labs and no medication.
My Drs read me the riot act about my weight, so I quit going to them and developed healthy eating habits and made goals for myself. We can't confront Drs in that way. They need to do their job. Rather then being a Karen, I did it going alone so I wouldn't have to rely on Drs. Anyways, if I can do it, any one can!
While I definitely agree there are unprofessional doctors who let their bias/disgust towards fat people show and may put them into danger by that, I genuinely dont think they have more victims on their hands than obesity
I really feel like they would be the people to feel more distaste towards overweight/obese people. It's like someone coming in and saying they can't breathe, while they're actively smoking cigarettes. Food can be addicting. And considering that obesity is the norm in the U.S, it might be z constant thing for them honestly.
@@dausirenslament9766 yeah i defo agree, i was just pointing out that fat acceptance movement constantly bring up the few cases of obese ppl dying bc of doctor's neglect so i wanted to address it
0:08 Its rich how she wants to call people rude when she talks down to grown adults like children and acts as if she’s an authority on how personal preference works.
Can’t be a cringe complication without good ole Marisa 🤣
The last girl.. girl just go on a run. Just exercise in your house like stretches. And 98% of these people can afford to lose weight.
Meanwhile fasting is completely free for you to do and, it saves you money on food.
I pay 15€ a month for an ondemand subscription to workout at home. I'm sure all of these people can afford even that and there are sooo many free workouts online. price is a pathetic excuse not to move your body
Lol the last one is crazy. I've lost a fair chunk of weight. It cost less to lose weight than it does staying fat.
If you have enough the time to film a tik tok you have the time to drop to the ground and do some push ups. It won't burn hardly any calories, but over time you may build some muscles if you progressively improve and challenge yourself. Then with more muscles comes a slightly higher bmr.
If you have enough money to eat in that much excess you have enough money to buy rice, beans, frozen veggies, and a multivitamin (though most fat people give no regard to nutrition to begin with) and eat at a reasonable level.
Fat people just don't want to give up the food. Thats why "diets don't work"...because people think you just do it to slim down and then you can go back to eating like you did before....and somehow they expect to not go back to the same size they were before. If you fix your diet (note I didn't say go on a diet) you will lose weight if you do it properly.
As a former homeless person, I can confirm it costs a LOT of money and access to eat //very// healthy, but I would have had to be under a magic spell to gain weight during that time. Like you said: rice, beans, plus I'll say bananas (that's altogether about $3 a day). I definitely wasn't going to be on the front page of a health and wellness magazine but I also wasn't going to gather any visceral fat-related problems that end up just making a person poorer over time
Sorry to break it to you buddy, but a doctor needs to do that. It sucks, i know. When i was very obese i went to an eye doctor for new glasses. And that guy started a whole ass discussion about weightloss and he got a friend of his, who got his.... mouth... like.... blocked (like Saw Style) so he cannot eat. Thats how his friend lost weight and i should think about that too.
Was strange as fuck, never went there again. But the point is: its the doctors job. Doesnt matter for what reason your girl went there, its just reality. And maybe the blood thing is fine for her, but wait until you are my age when i got diagnosed with Typ 2 diabetes.
That "cannot afford weightloss" well, if i she can afford all that fast food, which isnt cheap mind you, she can eat healither as well. And yes, maybe gym is expensive and not everybody has space or meaning to work out at home. But: Going outside and do a WALK is free? And i work fulltime, 40+ hours a week. Increasing the everyday movement is already good for a start. I only hear excuses from that lady. If she has time to smear that porridge on her face, she can go out to move. Period.
Iirc this person has "spoonie" in their tiktok description as well as other overshared diagnoses. It is kinda weird a person who's suffering from various shit would go out of their way and advocate for lifestyle choices that undeniably mess up people's health. I'm sure it's not doing them any favors.
@@Micho55 As an none native english speaker, i literally needed to google wtf "spoonie" is - what a strange thing to say. Imagine doing this kind of videos, labeling yourself as a "spoonie", having other health issues but not accepting, or having the will to change stuff what COULD be changed (like the weight situation).
Sounds to me like he wants to dominate and control his girlfriend, frankly, by "protecting" her from doctors who might convince her to change her lifestyle. He's clearly threatened by the idea that someone might influence her to change her destructive habits, drop weight, and realize that he is a bad influence on her and that maybe now she can do better...
@@johnjamele it's not uncommon honestly. When I was obese and in an relationship, the guys told me to not drop weight. There are different reasons for that. In my case it was because I was a fetish for them. But sometimes, especially if the partner is overweight too, they are just scared that the weightloss results in an broken relationship. Stuff is changing a lot after you have dropped weight.
Looool , the first one is so delusional , i mean first she says "she got butthurt, she got her feelings hurt" when SHE was the one who got exactly that 😂😂😂 that girl is so gone , i would hate to know her in real life , she sounds super annoying and a hell to deal with .
You know she's a total Karen when her 300 gram chocolate is 299.6 grams.
Why is this one guy angry about the doctor addressing someone’s weight over an adderall prescription?
Being overweight increases your blood pressure and heart rate, a thing that adderall can be deadly with if it’s out of control. The doctor is right in confronting his girlfriend over it.
Everytime Virgie speaks its basically playing Russian roulette over what group is being oppressed the most in this particular scenario. She is absolutely exhausting to ness speak
When I was overweight, I would believe these crazy excuses and justifications; a lot of them came from my mother who has poor eating habits. I believed I could not lose weight, and that I was naturally chubby. Guess what? I discovered my TDEE, began counting calories, and got smaller! Crazy, right? 🤯
Her arguments didn’t flow and I somehow left feeling more confused than when I listened to her
These people make weight the center point of their entire life then roll up at the doctors and act mad that the doctor thinks weight affects other areas of their life
'even a broken clock is right twice a day'
I like this. I'll have to remember it lol.
The second girl who says she's scared of food. Damn girl you been pretty damn brave to get enough of it in to get to 400lbs way to go
That reminds of Tess Holiday who I believed said last year has anorexia but is somehow 'brave enough' to buy two whole pizzas and eat an entire cake. You must be recovering nicely.
I’m so happy I deleted TikTok. It’s junk food for the brain. Poison.
The guy complaining about “medical fat phobia” and saying he wished he could become a doctor….lmao imagine he did that. He would actually be the worst doctor telling his patients they’re fine being obese 😂🤦🏻♀️
Isn’t the second woman the person that said that putting a child on a diet is the same as SA? Not really the woman you want to represent your movement💀
No, that was Sonalee Rashwatar. This is Virgie Tovar. She's the CRFI woman. Both horrible, but different people.
@@AuralayKristine ah sorry! Thank you for your correction :)
And I'm sorry (no, I'm really not), I'm seriously judging her "look at me! look at me!" style. We are not in fifth grade. I am not impressed by your style, your overall looks, or what's coming out of your mouth. Stop trying.
@Lalogue where can i find this video 😳
@Lalogue Oof :( Those skin fold infections are painful and not fun...like literally how do you argue in favor of this? I've had those infections before! I'm getting them less now that I'm losing but like...even if they weren't just gross, they HURT. How can you "celebrate" something that causes so much pain??? Not to mention knee pain, joint pain, back pain, low energy levels, stomach pain...there is so much pain associated with that level of obesity and I just don't understand why people like her keep lying about it. Do they not feel it anymore because they're used to it??? Ugh. I just. I'm losing weight to get away from all the PAIN (already don't need a cane anymore, and instead of barely being mobile I walk 3+ miles almost daily...it's way better!!!) Sorry I am rambling now lol but yeah oof. :(
I was a poor teenager in a home that was literally headed by two people on disability, no ability to drive or make my own money, I still was able to lose 100lbs because I just took the food that my parents already had AND ATE LESS OF THAT FOOD. And I went on walks/jogs, and climbed a few steps. It took two years to do that way, but I did it! Unfortunately I got into really bad habits later on, living with a boyfriend who is a huge eater and constantly has snacks around, have been at desk jobs for 10 years and gained the weight back but I'm starting to try to lose the weight again.
had to pause at 4:50, i love showing that you showed she at least can see that you know its wrong to both extremes. props for that frfr.
You can tell most of these women are about to become unhinged at any moment. Their whole personality is "look at me I'm happy about being overweight." Please confirm that you see how happy I am being overweight.
Cooking at home instead of eating out already saves money. You could shop and meal prep all in the same day. Don’t buy what you don’t need. Cook for a week, freeze half the meals. Get in more steps and do a 30 minute workout 4-5 times a week. Yeah that costs so much especially when your health is on the line.
Meanwhile fasting costs absolutely nothing.
They are just delusional, lazy, bitter women without discipline and hobbies.
That's the weird part...they aren't particularly lazy. It requires a decent amount of work to make all these videos and comb through research to find what to Cherry pick. None of them except for Tovar do this for a living, so you can't say they don't have hobbies, either...this kind of stuff is their hobby. If they could direct their efforts in a healthy way, it would really change their lives for the better.
You are wrong!! They're hobbies are eating doing mental gymnastics instead of physical ones and more eating
I don’t even think she knows what sexism is. I can’t stand when people claim that because there already is a LOT of sexism that does affect women still and they’re are diminishing that by claiming anything and everything is sexism. It’s like going backwards.
The girl saying you need wealth to get to a healthy weight is delusional. "I don't have time to do a home workout but I have time to rant on TikTok". Oh please. Just say you don't want to put in the work and be done with it.
Meal prep saves time and money regardless of desire to lose weight. It keeps you on a budget.
Loving your videos and how you've started recording the rebuttals yourself. Keep up the logic and good content!
The one that is complaining about doctors, why go to the doctor in the first place if you know more than the doctor to begin with? If you already know what’s best for you, why go to the doctor???
First of all, Wtf is on her face??? Second, it doesn't cost anything to lose weight. I went from 170lb down to 130lbs since last February and it didn't cost me a dime
I think it’s oatmeal. She probably ate it when she was done
Your underweight now
@@MelB868 according to who? Fat liberation
Your way too skinny now
@@tristantries9211 well 130 is underweight That’s way too skinny
The person talking about how doctors bring up their girlfriends weight during an unrelated appointment being fatphobic is strange. They bring it up because it's an alarming size to be and can bring up all kinds of issues. I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum, I'm underweight, and every doctor's appointment I go to, my weight is constantly brought up because it's an alarming size to be and whether it's related or not , it is still important to speak about. It's not because my doctors hate me.
0:51 This legitimately took me back to tween schoolyard bullying, where *no one knew* what the hell they were saying because our brains hadn't developed yet 😂.
thanks for these videos, really funny and you make lots of good points. i enjoy listening to them.
Personally I love my doctor I just started seeing a doctor this year and he’s great
If you are taking ADHD medicines, it is definitely an issue with obesity. A doctor should be talking to patients who are on Amphetamines & has a higher chance of risk of heart disease, heart attacks, high blood pressure.
My niece lost 200+ lbs working full time as a caretaker. She did so at home by walking, lifting weights, hiking, etc.
I'm hooked onto your channel, bingeing your videos 😄👍🏽❤
Doctors can bring something up if they notice it. I went in for a completely different issue, and casually mentioned that I was getting headaches. Turned out I had a brain tumour. Wouldn’t have known as early. But yeah. Sure. Stay in your lane, doctor.
Sorry to hear that. Get well soon. 🙏
Right, and when you have to see a doctor that isn't your regular doctor, sometimes they'll notice something or bring something up that is super helpful! Sometimes the opposite is true as well, and they'll trash your regular doctor's treatment plan for example. But that could be a good thing in some cases too.
So happy for you that you got diagnosed early! Hope you're doing well today.
The dude talking about adderall…I take it and that’s never happened with me. So, ummm. 🤷🏼♀️
I was wondering y she didn’t just call the pharmacy they would have helped her him senselessly attacking this doctor doesn’t make sense
Not that I disbelieve a doctor discussing weight with a patient with an obvious medical issue with obesity (if she looks like that dude, as I'm assuming she does). That's not discrimination, it's minding your patients' health.
"Her bloodwork looks good." She's, what, 25? Mine looked great at 25. I'm now 53 (just about to turn that, anyway). It still looks great--I always listened to my doctor. Let's see what hers looks like at that age.
Um the “dude” is a she. She has hairstuism. I get the fact that her logic for being angry is flawed, but referring to her as “dude” “he/him” is unnecessary.
@@gothica3605 No, seriously? Even with that tenor voice? Is this a pronoun choice issue?
@@gothica3605 well it's not easy to tell. They present very male and their handle is "fatsaphicbro" so it's pretty reasonable for people to mistake their gender. It's a much bigger mistake to think people are purposely misgendering someone like that
How dare a doctor that's never seen this particular patient do what they're supposed to do and care about that person's health!! I can't believe any doctor would do that! These people are so irritating😒
This is what really pisses me off! It costs more money to stay fat than it is to get in shape. Healthy food is not expensive. Eggs, rice, seasonal fruits and veggies are cheap. Working out at home is so easy, especially if you're really overweight. Walking costs nothing. Assisted pushups on high incline, costs nothing. Wall pushups cost nothing. Weights can be made at home ( rice bags, gallon water jugs, heavy objects) these people are just lazy and whine alot. I would have more respect for them if they said that they are just lazy and dont want to change and they know they are unhealthy.
And let’s not forget that fasting is completely free as well. All you gotta do is not eat anything. They just love to make excuses.
Marissa said that she was dating like 6 people and she's making all these tik tok videos so she has time for that but not for prepping some meals and at least a short work out or daily walk. She's full of excuses.
Responding to Vergie Tovar’s statement regarding the paintings of morbidly obese women that were popular in the renaissance , I do not claim to be a history expert but I’m pretty certain that women who were heavy happened to be women who could afford to to eat and were more likely to be upper class in a starving population of poor people , so naturally the idea to be big would be associated with social status or class during this period , so that’s probably why obese women were painted to begin with , now being thin is harder to obtain than being heavy so it’s not deemed as desirable as when in the Renaissance .
0:40 oh the HORROR! MEAN TIKTOK COMMENTS!
I freaking love your videos!! I look forward to them everyday (or whenever you post them lol). You're one of my fav channels. 100% ❤️
Oh....and Marissa (the girl in the last clip with the sh*t all over her face)...uugghh she drives me nuts! She's so effing rude and condescending...she's a bully frfr. U could do an entire video...several...entire videos...on her.
The last one really makes no sense. "You need enough money to have enough time to go to the gym" is valid when you compare yourself to an actor or an athlete, in which case yes, you need money and time to train with trainers and so on, but we're talking about losing weight on obese people. You don't need the gym for that, cut out the carbonated beverages and the packages snacks and suddenly you're pounds lighter without a sweat.
Medical Fat-phobia is a thing?? Wowwwww I’m done🤦🏽♀️
These fat activists like to make up words to insert their insecurities onto others. It screams jealousy. It's sad.
I think the first person's definition of bullying and harassment is "anything that in any way reminds me of my own insecurities."
As some one with adhd .. my doctor speaks with me about my diet .. Bc sometimes the prescriptions can suppress eating during the day and cause binging at night .. so weight and diet is a factor in treatment .. some foods (sugary foods) can cause adhd to be worse
been lurking on your channel a while, figure its about time i subscribe lol
I mean, isn't losing weight cheaper than sustaining an obese body? You're eating less, therefore spending less on food.
12:14 they say they don't have the money to buy healthy foods yet they have the money to binge on fast foods? to get to that size you need to be eating take-out every 2 hours.
excuses galore.
Melissa, I’ve lost 20Kg plus and I haven’t worked out once. Your diet is much more critical to weighloss than workout. In fact changing my diet has made my finances better because I’m spending less money on food. It’s simple…eat less. Doesn’t matter what you eat as long as you are in a calorie deficit
THE ADDERALL ONE MADE ME SOOO MAD. Over 80% of people with ADHD/ADD have food sensitivities - mainly gluten. If it is severe and is celiac it can literally kill you. Everyone I know with ADHD has TESTED allergic to gluten at the least - and a lot of people much much more. ADHD and diet are so closely related and FOOD IS MEDICINE, and I’m saying this while on Adderall and Wellbutrin. HE is delusional. I feel sorry for his girlfriend and the fact she isn’t seeking for answers because of the environment, her ADHD severity and weight could all be due to an underlying dietary issue that she simply pretends doesn’t exist. Ugh.
It's funny when people talk about how expensive it is to be healthy because, in my personal experience, I'm at my most healthy when I'm broke since I can only afford beans, rice, veggies, fruits and nuts. And I walk (or jog) to work when I can't afford uber. And I rarely take more than 30 minutes a day to workout.
Virgie is very interesting looking.. I'm being shallow and just plain mean and I am sorry for that but Jesus, she is fricken rough looking ..
11:11 I lost 70lbs without eating a single piece of fruit or any vegetable. Literally. Have never owned a single piece of exercise equipment. I work 55-60 hours a week. What I "don't have time" for is pigging out.
You hit the nail on the head when you said you have time to post videos online . It doesn't cost a lot when you only eat twice a day.. That's what I do and I maintain my weight. I lost fifty pounds four years ago , these people if they look into it and gain the tools that I have they would loose the weight and actually save some money too. Humans aren't designed to graze all day. These people look for excuses instead of solutions, for every solution there's a problem that's the deluded world they live in unfortunately.
TIL that not seeing your genitals is apparently a feminine trait. I guess I am not a woman because I have never struggled in that regard. Even when I was 15 lbs overweight.
But seriously, if you are big enough that you can't see your genitals, weight loss is something to consider. It doesn't matter if you are a man or woman. You should be able to see your private parts when you look down.
9:18
Nah man that can't be it, he's not for real he must be trollin.
It's not legal to be this delusional
I would love a whole video of you breaking down Vergies quirks and toxic ideology as well as you sharing your opinion on a few of her speaking engagements. I remember watching her speak to a classroom of young woman and was baffled on who in their right mind would hire her. Such nonsensical word salad!!!
As for the last point, fruits and veggies can be expensive. Junk food can be expensive. But if you swap one out for the other and watch your portion control, you can really make your budget last. I’m low middle class. I eat fruits and veggies like crazy. Hell, a massive bag of carrots was $1.50. A massive bag of apples $4.99. Vegan microwavable “chicken” nuggets a family size is $5.00. Oatmeal is SUPER cheap, too. And… DUH, rice and beans. Classics. SUPER affordable. Can be spiced up and eaten so many ways.
Like… it’s possible. It is within reach. And if you don’t wanna eat well, then don’t. There’s literally ZERO problem with that. But like you said, don’t say you can’t when you won’t. Just own it.
Yea, many healthier foods are more expensive but when cutting back on portions you get more servings out of one recipe. I buy on sale and what's in season.
Frozen fruits and veggies can be a lot cheaper as well.
While a small pint of blueberries at the produce aisle can be $4.99, I can go to the freezer section and get a 2lb bag of them for $8. Frozen produce also has more nutrients in them since they’re flash frozen from day 1. When fresh produce is traveled around, it actually looses nutrients as the days go by.
I find it funny how these people arguing for fatness don't realize they might be fine for now because they are still pretty young.
Young & invincible as the saying goes. They don’t care until the day it actually happens to them.
The first girl is calling anything harassment.
Exactly and these women hate any kind of constructive criticism.
I'm bothered by the lack of accountability of some people. As a guy who has never been rich and cooks 80% of the meals I eat, I can say with good authority, that cooking saves money and doesn't take that long.
Doing the work to be healthy is about having the resolve to make it a priority and the consistency to just make it work. I can accept that it's challenging, but many times the best things in life are on the other side of challenges.
11:40 now she's just making excuses for not losing weight. Which we all know that if you want to lose weight bad enough you will find a sustainable, healthy way to do it no matter your income or living situation or lifestyle. Change is hard. Especially permanent change and there aren't a whole lot of people who are strong or determined enough to do it so they'd rather just make up alllll the excuses which is just damn pathetic. Just say you don't want to. Jesus.